>take the indie pill bro>the indie pill
>>93864818I don't get it, what am I supposed to be mad at here?
>>93865012Grifters gonna grift.
>>93864818I'm legit convinced the only thing preventing these girls from going full retarded and woman momento are corpo tardwrangling
>>93864818I'm pissed. This is worse than corpos. She exploited sweatshop workers for this shit. I'm not supporting her until she donates to labor unions.No better than corps.
>>93864818KWAB
>>93864818>nothing wrong with this>this is completely normalYet the instant someone else does this everyone's gonna make fun of them
>spent time designing merch when she could have been doing interesting stuff as Fauna
>>93864818How the tables have turned
>>93865096Aqua double dipped on graduation selling Startend/Aqua merch and then Sakuna merch
>>93865297Aqua at least waited for her ACTUAL birthday to sell merch and didn't sell merchs instantly on debut despite having an old youtube account that could be monetized.
>>93864818>Holofags are complaining about too much merch nowreally nigga?REALLY?
>>93865012no set salecan't get a limited sign
>>93864818That's literally why people support indies
>>93864818I'm starting to believe the problem wasn't Cover but Fauna wanted unfair terms with the management or the company. This is far too greedy.
>those 15th-19th of every month breaks weren’t period hort, they were used behind Sapling’s back to work on this shit>dragged the corpo down with her as she left >the EN girls pissed at her were right
>>93864818The corpo is the only thing keeping these hoes in check, and even sometimes corpos do a shit job at that
>>93865347Here's the thing with graduated chuubas: you are no long entitled to anything from them
>>93864818What's funnier is she can't pull out a merch instantly. She planed for this and probably have been planning it ever since the management did not give what she wanted.I'm gonna wait for her to do an oopsie and prove Shondo's words right.
>>93865562Works both ways.
>>93864818If you're going to keep calling Nimi a shill then I'm going to keep saying Mumei has real autism
>>93864818>60 dollars for a small plushJesus
Wake me when the fansly is up
>>93864818Money is also colored green so it just fits.
>>93865647What were shondong's words?
Why are browns mad about this
I don't even like Fauna/Nimi whatever but this is such a dogshit argument. Like why wouldn't I buy physical merch that my oshi sells that support her more than cover/youtube's 77% cut from my superchat. Even if I end up leaving the fanbase I still have something worth of value out of it. How many catalog threads are you going to make seething about her?
Huh. I’m starting to think maybe she was in the wrong.
>>93865347Yeah and Fauna skipped the graduation merch
>>93865932is it not obvious why SEA is upset by merch priced in USD?
>>93864818She's based for supporting my sweet catboy
>>93864818How long did it take to prepare all that merch? She probably knew she would make the biggest bucks right at debut with the biggest amount of tourists. Really greedy and calculated move from her.
>>93864818get your credit card out and be ready to type it in naplings
>>93865956It's the timing of things you tactless cuck.
>>93864818>Restocking my old Fauna merch for my graduation? Nah, fuck this company, I could get at least a million $ but it wouldn't make sense to do that since I'm trying to do a Selen, people will notice that my graduation is just a tantrum>Sells overpriced merch inmediately after
>>93864818its not greed you realizeshe's not corpo so she needs a way to keep the lights running now
>>93866145As if hololive didn't have debut merch
>>93865956It's because of the money obsessed image it gives her. Other girls debuting like this would be shit on as well.
>>93866145>cuckStop projecting>timingI am not buying and you aren't obligated to do so either. Quit being a betacuck, faggot.
>>93865838Got to work the marks brother.
>>93866281i've said it in other threads, but she's literally just taken the hololive game plan and copied it play for play. the merch at debut came off a bit weird as an indie, i agree, but if anything it's surprising how similar to hololive notfauna is doing things. it's legitimately the exact same thing, in the exact same order
>>93866320Never seen a hololive debut?
>>93866281That's the corpo milking fans not the girls. This is 100% not Fauna greed.
>>93864818It's pretty greedy. I thought she'd play it cool like Ame, but I guess not.
>>93866281>>93866446>welcoming new talent versus making merch for yourself before you’re even out yet
>>93866541Trying too hard
>>93865766Sure, Mumei has real autism, but at least she is a holo
>>93864818>>93864818TRUST THE PLANMOTHER NATURE'S COLOR IS GREEN, MONEY'S COLOR IS ALSO GREEN, MONEY IS MADE FROM PAPER, PAPER COMES FROM TREES, AND TREES COMES FROM MOTHER NATURE
>>93866541>"welcoming new talent">talent that you don't know about and you will be only be buying for the designed by a large coorporationvs>"making merch for yourself before you’re even out yet">established talent redubitting, who has already achived an actual audience designed and selected all by herself
>>93866012>the graduation merchIs that a thing?
>>93866670>all by herselfI’m sure that’s how that works, what with all this /lig/ger miasma permeating the board right now.
>>93865838The bigger the difference the more money you make.For example, you could make 2x the money on a plushie priced $60 vs one priced $50, if the cost of overhead is $40So the seller can greatly magnify their revenue and sell at the MCP; they have ever incentive to lift the price
>>93865012You're only saying this because it's Fauna. God forbid others do this and you'll act like they're the greediest motherfuckers alive
>>93866875Example?
Holofans adopting the same attacking playbook from the nijisisters wasn't the twist I expected in 2025.
>>93864818this is disgusting, at least wait a week ffs, fucking grifter
>>93866956
>>93864818>poorbrown seething he can't afford the merch
>>93866957Extenuating circumstances, NDFkun.
>>93864818>60$ for a plushWhat the fuck. Even Holo's plushies aren't that expensive and they're literally a minstream popular brand.
>>93867125A big corpo is able get them cheaper
>>93867210Proof?
>>93865956You can hold off selling merch a few weeks to be respectful of your audience. It would also make it less apparent this was all planned while streaming as Fauna.
>>93867343It's been a few weeks
>>93864818I can't believe the day would come when the indie pill bro meme would be used against an ex-holo
>>93866595Shill
>>93866118She’s Jewish
>>93866118I'm not denying the forward thinking nature of it, but at it's core vtubing like all major youtubing and other forms of content creation are jobs. They are done to make money, even if it's meant to be more casual in front of the camera. She just left her job. It only makes sense to maximize early profits to secure a safety net in the event the launch isn't as strong as hopedIs it more forward than most start off? Absolutely, and everyone is justified in giving it a raised eyebrow at first, but this is a perfectly logical move on her part, and frees her up to be more herself rather than pandering during streams for superchats
>>93867354A few weeks since what?Nimi just debuted today.
>>93866699no, she skipped it because she didnt want fans to spend twice
>>93865257solo vacation
>>93867528or she wanted fans to spend on the merch where she gets the bigger cut.
Didn’t watch it. Did she release merch before crediting that Magni faggot or after announcing he worked with her?
>>93864818Corpos may be greedy fucks but they at least prevent the girls from stupid actions like this. I was fine with feeling like a money source but at least I can feel my support is appreciated but what she did is outright making everyone look like an ATM and she wasn't even hiding it.
>>93865932Same old reason why third worlders SEETHE, they can't afford any merch.Also, the irony of OP picking on this to try to defend corporations LMAO
>>93867210That may be so but 60$ for a small plush is overkill. Even other and smaller idies sells theirs for cheaper
So much seethe in this thread for literally no reason, holy shit you fans are insanely desperate for drama
>>93866446Its okay when HoloGODS do it because they deserve it. dirty indieshart don't
>>93867777How much was shondo shumo?
>>93867785indieshits do be like that all drama whores
>>93867777How is a 12.5 inch tall plushie "small" ? That's bigger than the Friends with U plushies
So this is what she does after complaining about the management and saying she's going to quit?
>>93867785*fags, no idea how an n slipped in there
>>93864818Honestly I'm thankful for this move of hers. At least now I can stop feeling bad for her knowing she was the one being unreasonable with her demands, and the reason why her genmates were ignoring her.
>>93865687that's cool, but did you need to make a thread and fucking cry about it? you're not even a faggot anymore, you're just a woman.
>>93867636The merch was after she mentioned MagniIt was the memberships that she opened before mentioning Magni
>>93867723What I find wild is people defending this shit, they are literally defending being treated as ATMs while calling other Cover cultists
>>93868054What are you thinking her demands were? I'm curious.
>>93867299>>93867125economies of scale>hey we are gonna do 50+different figures and expect to sell this many thousands per each so we need 10 bajillion units of polyster fabric all stitched to this pattern as a base which then get sorted and fitted to each character's specifics
>>93868084>implying I’ve ever made a threadShiggydiggy, all OPs are faggots
>>93864818Holy grift
>>93864818That's right, they're all whores! Oh wait, Nimi is on YouTube...
Can someone explain to me how "selling a plushie of yourself" equals "treating your fans like ATMs"It's not like she's milking people for nothing. She's offering fan merch
>>93868167Defending what??? What is there to defend or even get mad about here???
>>93868167It's harder to imagine being an akasupa ATM where you receive nothing but the man behind the girl still nabs half of your tribute
>>93868307Why do you write like such a women when people can read the thread, faggot?
>>93868410So no answer?
>>93868306How can you be a fan of someone on the day they debut?
>>93867450Seriously? Damn I found a new kamioshi.
>>93868167It really is funny. Everyone's being defensive simply because it's Fauna or an ex-Holo but imagine if that wasn't the case and this is just another indie doing this move
>>93868450You're being disengenuous and you know it.
>>93868515>imagine if that wasn't the case and this is just another indie doing this moveThis thread wouldn't have existed
>>93866226she drives a brand new bmw. "keeping the lights on" my assplus she is receiving american dollars not even sea monopoly money
>>93865096>you can't just sell things!>that's grifting!!!
>>93868681I'm pretty sure it would exist. It would be the first time someone doing a limited merch on debut
>>93868589If it doesn't make sense for a normal indie vtuber to do this on debut, then Nimi shouldn't have either.
>corpofags are mad money isn't being feed to the machine and instead is going straight to the talentIt must be very scary for you guys seeing how easy it is for ex-corpos to be successful as indies in every conceivable avenue. Almost like their success shows that corpos have become only a stepping stone to greater things and eventually every talent in them will leave as well. Sooner rather than later at this rate.
>>93864818Yeah, I can't believe she's trying to make money from her job to pay for her expensive vtuber models and assets. What a greedy monster, selling goods that people voluntarily want to buy. Yep, definitely different from Cover who sells plastic crap and overpriced merch at every opportunity.You people are insane. You should get a new hobby. This isn't healthy. Focus on what you like instead of what you don't like. If you think the stupid doll isn't worth it, then don't buy it.
>>93866851/lig/gers are actual cancer they even made /big/if anything this will deflate fan spending across the board since you don't want your oshi getting a big head and thinking about how they can get a better deal instead of focusing on providing content
>>93868683>brand new bmwproof? your dreams?
>>93867343>It would also make it less apparent this was all planned while streaming as Fauna.It's been totally obvious she was going to go indie and continue streaming. Even most of the other Holo EN streamers said something about wishing her luck "wherever she goes" or something. It was corpo censorspeak for her indie streaming.
>all the seethes over 60 bucksThis board is really full of brown thirdies huh
>>93864818Fauna had enough of others' half-assed grifting and wanted to show everyone how it's really done. She also wanted to show Gura and the rest of EN that it's more profitable being an indie.
She's gonna make more money doing less work while chilling with other indies. If anything she's smart.Watch more holos retire after their contracts are over after this one.
>>93868515I wouldn't care. If it was anyone else, even someone I didn't like, and she was doing this then I just wouldn't buy it.You don't have to be angry at everything. Let the anger go.
>>93868450>>93868815she isn't a normal indie vtuber and he's right that you're being disingenuous
>>93866440Nimi proving corpos are unnessesery speedrun
>>93868856Here comes the "SHE'S DOING IT TO PAY FOR HER EXPENSIVE MODELS!!" >dooby>sakuna>both had the respect and restraint not to shill merchs ASAP despite their expensive models and assets
It's completely vindicated by her selling out right away. She was selling and people were buying.
>>93864818she should consider making her own cryptocurrency and rugpull cucklings
>>93865096AHHHH SHES SELLING THINGS??!!?? HELP IM BEING GRIFTED
>>93869015well, i don't think she could have done all of this without being a big streamer in hololive. i'd say that rather than proving corpos aren't needed, this proves that they aren't needed once you've used them to establish themselves. i wonder if aqua and fauna's grauations have cover concerned for their remaining talents
>>93869225 (me)>once you've used them to establish themselvesonce you've used them to establish yourselves*
>>93866145The people who are watching her as an indie have already been watching her for 3 years. Why wouldn’t her long time fans want buy merch?
>>93864818>goes indie>utilizes corpo practiceswolf in sheep's clothing
>>93865096I hope your pathetic 1view oshi slits her throat and dies
>>93865096reminder about cover and their graduation sales
idk man it seems like a no brainer to shill merch during a debut stream. everyone knows that ex-corpo chuubas get an insane amount of viewers in their debuts>>93869123fucking things sold out in 2 minutes. and that was without EU market
>>93869421>heh, merch is predatory and corpo scum should know better than to sell it>it’s okay when indies do it because..
>>93867785None of the impotent seething on this board matters at all. For all the supposed drama around her debut that’s getting astroturfed on /vt/, her merch is selling like hotcakes, she got like 15 thousand day 1 memberships, and she’s still gaining subs at an incredible rate. It’s just a bunch of NEETs and 3rd worlders with too much time on their hands.
>>93868168NTA, but my guess is one of the things she wanted to do was collab streams with the two ex-homos in their current identities. Obviously, Cover would never allow her to collab with talents who've since left Cover, terminated or not.
>>93869524>>everyone knows that ex-corpo chuubas get an insane amount of viewers in their debutsSure, just don’t tell me noomberfagging isn’t the end goal of the indie world.
>>93864818Would be funny if everytime a holo graduates and reincarnates as an indie, they'll up the level of this until it becomes so crazy that fans would hate them for it. Imagine a holo reincarnating and instantly doing a donothon as debut stream.
>>93869688>Imagine a holo reincarnating and instantly doing a donothon as debut stream.Woah there Satan. Stop giving them ideas
This thread can be tl:dr’d as “I’m mad she’s incentivizing other corpo vtubers to go indie”
Big Money Nimi
>>93869797More like>please let this cascade so Hololive dies and my 2view can win
FAUNA IS IN CONTROL
>>93869524Her pre-orders are also zooming and she didn’t even mention that you can still pre-order after it sold out
>>93869863She's thinking this? Big if true
>>93869254tell them
At the end of the day, Cover should have just appeased whatever her demands with management were. Nimi is actually fucking smart and dangerous as an indie.
>>93870153She’s not even close to the core of Hololive, so I doubt it.
>>93867636She promoted membership and merch right after showing model and introduction before showing credits or explaining about her activities.This seriously sour my opinion of her and even more with “want to be on stage” at the end. like really, the only one that never has or invest in 3d live outside of obligatory one in 3 years.
>>93864818This actually explains some things very well. >Why didn't basically any of her coworkers really care about her leaving? Merch doesn't get done in a day, so it has to have been ordered several months even before the announcement. No reason to feel bad about someone who's being completely open about constructing her new thing.>What could she have disagreed with management on?PAY CUT. This one slots in so neatly, it's insane. She wanted more money, Cover was being slow or uncooperative, she quit and took 100% of the revenue. Easiest solution ever.
>>93869000I don't see how I'm being disingenuous. I'm saying it would be in bad taste for any indie vtuber to shill merch on debut, so I don't see why Nimi should get a pass for it just because she's an ex-corpo. Why do you think none of the other ex-corpos did? Because they obviously knew it would be in bad taste.
>>93870589The pay cut honestly makes so much more sense. She didn't even try to hide her resentment with the company or management during her graduation announcement. She most likely thought the 3D dancing and 3D lives are not worth the trouble anymore.
>>93870153Yep, they're absolute retards for not keeping her in and if I was an investor I'd have serious questions
>>93869688>Imagine a holo reincarnating and instantly doing a donothon as debut stream.
>>93868905here you go faggothttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jb7CoJwy334
>>93870901she didnt say she bought itshe even said she only droce maximum 3 hours
> Oh no, that money should have been given to a multimillion company, it needs them more!
>>93870974LMAO yeah ok whatever holobronyif she says the sky is green then I guess green it is to you
>>93871060>believe her words>not those ones
>>93870589>work your ass off taking singing and dancing lessons to satisfy Cover Corp idol autism>inevitably do mediocre because you're not a good singer to start with and you're competing with specialists like Mori and Bae>OR>quit and get a bigger cut of the superchat and merch sales
>>93870901She said she didn't like the BMW
Funny to hear bootlickers defend a corpo that's built on shilling acrylic stands and pins while trying to take a moral stand against a "grifter". That's priceless
>>93871042at least that company feeds families and isnt just making 1 person richer off sweatshop labor
>>93864818I've been noticing the passive aggressive "btw" a lot these days. Must be a zoomer thing because it's everywhere.
>>93871668I'm getting tired of seeing it.
>>93871558You can't fairly compare an individual getting their bag to a corpo that's got an standing army of little cambodian kids making a million dino Gura plushies
>>93866699https://shop.hololivepro.com/en/products/minatoaqua_an6th Labeled as Anni merch but released after graduation announcement. Same as her rereleasehttps://shop.hololivepro.com/en/products/minatoaqua_merch_rereleasedCoco also had merch re-release but it happened so long ago it's been scrubbed.Then there's the affiliates who've had the same dealSame with Chloe who got rereleased merch after her announcementhttps://shop.hololivepro.com/en/products/sakamatachloe_alltimehitmerch_rereleasedSame with Ame who flat out had new merch and re-release https://shop.hololivepro.com/en/products/watsonamelia_together_4everhttps://shop.hololivepro.com/en/products/watsonamelia_watsonameliaofficialpillowcover_rereleasedFauna is literally the only one without a merch re-release for graduation.
>>93871850I can actually.Cover is responsible for all their A-chans that work for them whereas Fauna is beholden only to her own whims.
>>93864818>only $6 for stickers>still complaininghttps://uwumarket.us/products/chibidoki-going-bananas-sticker-pack
>>93866699>Is that a thing?Yeah I think all the others have run graduation merch. Fauna chose to not have any
>>93866177Don't compare them you retarded bitch.Doki gives a lot to her community, not just in her streams but literal tournaments and contests she spends her own money on, Fauna could and will never.Meanwhile your green Goblin will take your last penny and you will get off on it.
>>93868306It's simple when an indie puts out debut merch to support themselves it's bad because it is.When a big corp put out debut merch and a copious amounts of merch it's good actually.For the record both of these are completely fine, anyone who says otherwise is an idiot or just poor
I don't want to fucking hear about overpriced merch when, if you want to buy 1 item from Hololive, you're basically fucking yourself with how the default shipping is 25 fucking dollars, so you HAVE to spend more to get your moneys worth and the shipping still goes up.
>>93871282You should buy more merch, quickly!This way Nimi can buy a new Porsche with vegan-leather seats so the evil BMW won't ruin her mood!You want her to be happy right?And you don't even really need that money as much as her anyways!
>>93871966In a utilitarian sense Cover does an exponential amount more evil than Nimi
>>93865297Yeah Aqua grifted the fuck out everyone too. What's your point?
>>93869225>i wonder if aqua and fauna's grauations have cover concerned for their remaining talentsIt will probably make the auditions harder, that's all.They will aim more at idol/Holo fans, since cover can give them something no one else can, actual concerts and access to professional music producers you need to have connections for."Gamer types" like Biboo will have it harder to join up without showing extreme Holo autism since they will be seen as possible opportunistic sellouts trying to get ahead from the beginning now.
>>93867432>ShillThis so much, Holo shills are unbearable.By the way did you see the cool sticker packs Nimi has on sale right now? If you buy fast you might get a limited signed card!!
>>93868210>Oh wait, Nimi is on YouTube...Not for long
>>93869914Wow she made enough money for a new car during her debut stream.Good, since she doesn't really like the new BMW.
>>93866012Aqua didn't have a graduation merch EOP. That's literally her anniversary merch
>>93864818don't you twats always complain there isn't enough merch to waste your minimum wage on?
>>93864818Both the funny and sad thing is, only Holos could really do grifting like this. Others would do bad or kill their career if they dare try releasing merchs on debut.
>>93864818all these preplanned shit lol. no wonder she had no ally supporting her graduation announcement. People must've noticed she was completely checked out with an attitude long before she told everyone in the corp that she's leaving.
>>93866957>HolofansThese are not fans, they are dramafags. Sure, there are some who feel betrayed, because they are retarded, but the majority are happy that she is back. Or are they gonna cope that the whole indie fanbase (that's not even a real thing) joined to watch her stream and membered her the instant she opened it.
>>93869225>i wonder if aqua and fauna's grauations have cover concerned for their remaining talentsYeah, they've addressed a couple of times in recent interviews even. They've talked a few times about needing to do better in certain areas
>endless catalog threads painting Fauna as a paragon for escaping the big evil PUBLIC company>she redebuts>instantly opens membership and drops a whole merch set>model isn't even readyThe debut stream was over 50% shilling. Am I supposed to believe this was more SOULFUL than Mikkorone 24?
>>93874292nobody gives a shit about nimi take it to nnn or whatever
>>93869591Why would she want to collab with them after they left, and not while they were in the company?
>>93871190>specialists like Mori and Baespecialists in creating ear poison, sureat least bad singers like fauna and noel have some self-awareness of their limits but the rat and brapper were praised too much as children or whatever and now the holo fandom has to bear the brunt of the consequences
>>93869863>my 2view can winThat 2view will remain a 2view if the ex-holo girls continue streaming.
>>93871190>competingIt's not a competition, also the fans don't care about things like that so much (who sings better or dances better). If you are good at it, you get recognition for it, but she wasn't known as the best singer or dancer anyway, people loved her for different reasons.
You know you don't HAVE to buy merch, right?
>>93864818$60 for a plush is ridiculous though, the cost of production for those is only $10 last time i heard.Even Makeship sells theirs for half that price
>>93874292>endless catalog threads painting Fauna as a paragon for escaping the big evil PUBLIC companyme when I make things up
The plushie looks super cute.
>>93864818big indies that just act like greedy corpas should be labelled as something else. Or actual indies with sovl needs to be labelled something else entirely rather than big/small adjective.
>>93869527>noooo you NEED to defend the multimillion dollar companycuck
>>93866864Stop trying to excuse her milking her paypig simps of their wallets. She knows that they'll buy her shit regardless of the prices, so this is highway robbery.
>>93874775>newfag wasn't around in December
>>93864818Connor was right.A talent with no talent can become a success in life just by accidentally getting into a company.Even if they left the company and were not streaming for one second, they can still sell day0 merch.
Did this bitch really put out a bunch of merch after the first stream?
>>93874895The catalog has been nothing but Fauna antis since her graduation announcement. All you've managed to do btw is drum up hype for her redebut. So, thanks.
>>93874511>the holo fandomDo not embolden yourself into thinking the rest of the world shares or needs to hear your garbage takes ever again
>Doesn't re-release merch like literally EVERY holo that graduated>Puts up her own merch of her new form so that her fans can have new shit instead of old shit that'll be outdated >This is badYou can never make me hate someone who wants themselves to succeed
>>93864818Why the fuck is it 60 dollars? that's highway robbery. Others sell similar merch at half the price. Does she really think she's this important?
>>93875113It's like a foot tall
>>93875144Scratch what I said earlier then. The price is justified.
>>93864818Imagine IRL giving your blind date a $60 gift before you even know them
>>93875259>before you even know themnigga we've known her for years
>>93874974She learned from the best corpo how to run a business.
>>93874974its not even a preorderits aleady signedpreorder for next wave starting
>>93874974You don't have to buy it. Why are you mad?
The performative outrage in this thread is really pathetic. You should all go back to twitter fucking faggots.
>>93874974Yep>"it might get sold out soon so get your credit cards out and be ready to type it in!"https://youtu.be/iLf9P_bWJc4?t=3498
Many people are mistaken, but what sold out was a limited edition product with signatures. Regular editions will be available as production orders at a later date.
>>93875621buy an ad coward
>>93864818Huh so this is what her disagreement with the management?She wants to squeeze more from her fans and scam them but Yagoo won't allow her?
>>93875713This is actually the stupidest fucking post all thread. She took no sponsorships, she only did the bare minimum merch.
>>93875539I hope you got your credit card out on time little sapling.
>>93865124>She exploited sweatshop workersBased AFForeigners should be worked to death instead of crossing my fucking borders.
>>93874292difference is she's doing it to survive not to please shareholders
>>93865469Everything you say is something good about her. Death to jap bootlickers.
>>93875757>she only did the bare minimum merchShe can earn as much as she wants, as non-signed products are production orders.
>>93875808>to surviveMint went 3 months without a model and even a lengthy trip to Japan and that was with Nijisanji money which we already know is sparse.
>>93866541>work yourself to death for japo corpo until your year long contract expires and never take any action to secure your financials at least 5 months after you leaveNo, I don't think I will.
>>93872008>Earn not one dollar more for japs than I have to.Fucking BASED
>>93875574Kek, cucklings are such good little pay piggys
>>93875781I'm not a sapling/napling
>>93865124Are you one of the sweatshop workers?
>>93868167Don't fucking buy it if you don't like it faggot. Why are you mad that other people are spending money? End yourself.
>>93864818>take the indie pill bro>it's all ex-Holo, Holo adjacent and whoresNo.
>>93868307How many times can you people keep writing "I don't understand why people are mad at Fauna!" as if you're this oblivious?Are you being this obtuse on purpose or are you genuinely this clueless?
>>93876273Explain why anyone should be mad without making an emotional argument or expressing a personal opinion.
>instant male collab with MagniKek I feel bad for sappos
>>93877065Don't. They deserve it.
>>93877065They are called napkins now that they are wiping magni's cum out of nimi's cunt
>>93875785You're never going to be American, Pablo
>>93867723>>93868167By what logic selling merch is the point where you cross the line into treating your fans like ATMs when all vtubers have superchats enabled in their streams?
Before debut:>NIMI IS FINISHED WITHOUT CORPO INDIES HAVE PROBLEMS SECURING MERCH AND SPONSORSHIPS SHE IS NOTHING WITHOUT HOLOAfter she sells thousands of plushies at debut:>NOOOOOOOOOO SHE CAN'T JUST DO THAT SHE SHOULD HAVE SOLD MORE WATCHES AND JACKETS SO CORPO CAN GET A CUT INSTEAD OF PREPARING HER OWN DEBUT MERCH
>>93867723She wasn't hiding it when she was Fauna.>so are we friends or paypigs to you?>we can NEVER be friends!>leaves it at that, insinuating that in fact she indeed views you as paypigs>simp defense force immediately to the rescue with "what she actually meant..."Nothing has changed. I'm glad the bitch is gone from Holo but now she'll infect the indies I like.
>>93866600WE BOARDING THE MONEY TRAIN
Fucking day one merch and memberships, absolutely shameless grifting, not even the fucking dogs are this shameless.
>>93869688I got just the girl for it
>>93878731Someone is jealous.
>>93866281she just graduated dude that's already a fat paycheck since Cover doesn't take a cut from their last month
>>93864818What does she do that needed much more money? Don't say "hurr condoms" those aren't that expensive. Biboo MOVED to japan AND commissioned about 20 artists for her outfit debut. FWMC is doing a birthday live and have been doing lessons for months. Nerissa puts out covers and had an original EP. Pretty much everyone else in her own gen had more output.Fauna was stingy as fuck in comparison and had a huge cash out for graduation. This is dubious due to how low effort she's always been. But she got a lot of easy marks in the "naplings" so I can't be mad.
>>93864818Id rather buy a plushie than donate to an Ironlung sleepathon desu.
>>93879247Also dooby redebuted without this because the amount of money you get for graduation is obscene
>>93864818>indie pillThis only works exactly because everyone and their mother knows she is Fauna, can you imagine an actual indie starting stream with merch done already?
>>93879247When you get rich, the greedy trait in someone doesn't suddenly stop
>>93867736I don’t care how much money you make, SIXTY DOLLARS for a fucking plushie the size of my palm is highway robbery. Hololive/Niji charge 1/3rd of the price of that. You genuinely shouldn’t defend this, corpo autism be fucking damned
>>93865647planned when she was in council and not promise.
>>93879641I feel bad for regular indies who have to compete with these/doki.
>>93869688Haven't a bunch of corpo vtubers done this and you guys cheered for it already? I remembeer idolen being pushed as the hololive killer and doing day 1 donothons(not to mention twitch millionaires doing it like ironmouse, in fact the only people that don't seem to do those are actually hololive members)
>>93864818What a PICK ME GRIFTER KEK FAT WHORE
>>93878116get your credit cards out
>>93879730Anon, there are people that defend on-disc DLC in paid games nowadays.You shouldn't defend it, but today's generation doesn't care.
>>93879984Entire thread is retarded and fighting over the wrong thing (as always)Nimi can do whatever the fuck she wants, I don’t care. If she didn’t wanna be in hololive because they didn’t let her shitpost as much, fine. That’s from hololive changing to idol first if anything. I got a fucking problem with these plushies selling out and people acting like 60 dollars+tax+shipping is suddenly fine now because it supports the talents. I got the same fucking issue with fuwamoco’s random 40 dollar ASMR voice pack too. Way too much vtuber merch is expensive
>>93870721Nimi gets a pass because she's ex-corpo.
>>93865096That's not what grifting means you insufferable 0view faggot.
>>93871966And Fauna is her own A-chan that needs to be responsible for.
MiSide marks their first solo gaming stream in over a month (last was Wobbledogs Dec 14.) Pretty crazy
>>93876139You’re gonna be that much of a retard to spend 60 dollars on a plushie that looks okay and for a vtuber who just debuted less than a fucking hour into your life? 60 dollars is the same amount of money I could spend for shit like gas, food, my fucking bills, and other expenses. Learn the value of dollars before you start going “ERM, JUST IGNORE THE SPENDING OF OTHERS”, you benign fuck
>>93880047>I got the same fucking issue with fuwamoco’s random 40 dollar ASMR voice pack too.I think that was the moment I looked at FWMC in a different light. Could take all the breaks and JP streams but the chasing for numbers and endless shilling soured meBut back on topic, it's like I said before. Things like this shouldn't be okay but nowadays, some of the most egregious business prices are done regularly because people have no self control and don't know how to vote with their wallets.
>>93875946Nimi is not Mint.
>>93879641Don't fucking care, there are too many lazy whores who want it easy instead of working at a factory.
>>93880185Once again, how does it affect you? It's not your money that is being spent so why are you upset?
>>93880047Supporting the talent is how it's supposed to be, people are literally mad because she is no longer supporting the corpo...
>>93880236That's the point. Well done.
>>93879849Fresh indies compete with other fresh indies. Established vtubers compete with established vtubers. When you open up a lemonade stand, your competition is not fucking coca-cola.
>>93880216Like I understand the marine coin being expensive, that’s a really nice keepsake. I can 100% understand why you want that item and it’s limited too. It’s something that has value. A voice pack being over 10 dollars isn’t worth it, no matter how much you love your oshi. FuwaMoco is fine, but there are 100% some things that I just don’t like from them when it comes to money. It isn’t my money, but that person might’ve fucked their expenses in the long run over their blind faith in their oshi and FOMO
>>93871190Is always funny to me seeing people say shit like this when members like Noel and Choco exist and people fucking love their shitty singing
>>93868167>the ATM treatment (just selling merch) is okay BUT ONLY AFTER x amount of days!>why?>STOP DEFENDING THIS BEHAVIORThe absolute mental gymnastics.
>>93869308Dooby…
>>93864818>>93865012>Holo is successful >leech, grifter>this is what they become guys>Holo "underperformed">haha what a failure>this is what they became guysThere is no winning with Catalog.
>>93879730The plushie is bigger than your head
>>93880470Because people support them and actually like them. Noel and Choco have even stated on their own accord on improving a ton as idols. Fauna stated she still hasn’t improved as much. If you keep doing something for years and improvement is minimal, what do you gain? Seriously go watch Choco/Noel back in 2019 to now, they’ve both improved. Fauna was very…eh with her singing and work. Who’s fault is that?
>>93880485Why are you arguing with yourself?
>>93880527A plushie being 60 dollars is INSANE
>>93880371Fresh indies are competing with all indies. And they are dead from the cradle now more than ever. Ex corpos come with more fanwork, big communities and hype with simply a model change. No reason to bet on some small chuuba anymore.
>>93873737Mumei is a loser with ADHD AND Autism
>>93880601Meds. Now.
>>93880613I'm guessing you never bought any of the holo ones then even if it started at 20-25 shipping pushed that shit past 60
>>93880662Think you should take your own advice, lad.
>>93880692Because I don’t buy just the plushie, I get something else and go “okay I’m not getting just a plushie, I want this and that”.But me bitching about 60 dollars isn’t the only thing wrong. You’ve barely even existed for an hour to the average fan and you’re selling them a plushie and everyone buys it due to FOMO? That’s fucked up
>>93880534She still improved, but it's the mindset. Some don't care they are bad, some (like Fauna) feel constantly insecure about it, hence her imposter syndrome and all. The expectations, combined with other, more practical problems behind the scenes (money, corpo autism, incompetent management), ended up with her leaving.
>>9388077090% of vtuber merch, and most of streamer merch in general, are limited runs. If anything this one isn't that bad since they already started preorders for another batch (without cap), and might have another run once they can send stuff to EU again, since a lot of euros wanted one too.
>>93864818>corpo does debut merch for random WHOs that is fucking printed plastic sold for 100000% profit margin>not greedy>well known indie does cute plushie as debut merch>GREEDY FUCKholodrones are mentally ill
>>93865096AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHA VTUBER IS SELLING MERCHANDISECALL THE POLICE
>>93864818wdym, hololive sells hotdogs with hololive sticker
oh sweet its another episode of /vt/ gets mad at a chuuba for not adhering to some arbitrary schizo rules that exist only in their headsI hate you niggas. get a fucking job.
>>93881517Anon these are Holo antis making these threads. I'm sure there is a few posting who got gaslite by catalog into thinking Fauna was the enemy but in general these antis will goalpost move to try to make any current or former Holo look bad. You think these people don't do the same thing with Vshojo, Phase and other popular places?
>>93881882Nimi hands typed this post.
>>93881931I think you are talking to a holo-anti.
>>93881517Was she really well known? What was her usual viewership before anyways?
>>93872574If you're going to keep being a shill then I'm going to keep saying Mumei is autistic.
>>93864818>being indie means being poorNot exHolo indies.Forget that she didn't make enough merch, opening subs on debut causing the sub notifications to spam the rest of the stream was impressive.
>>93868450Most corpus do debut merch
>>93880524>muh catalog holy shit shut the fuck up
>>93880893she immediately tried to sell merch why did she assume she would have enough people to sell to at all? it's cynical, greedy, and shows an utter lack of humility
>>93883434>she immediately tried to sell merch >why did she assume she would have enough people to sell to at all? >it's cynical, greedy, and shows an utter lack of humilityso like hololive?
This shit won't work if you're not ex corpo or otherwise didn't have any previous mass exposure.Pretty funny if 2views try this and lose money on merch people wont buy though.
>>93864818Ame did charity donation streams and didn't bother with a graduation merch, redebut, didn't beg at all and was just happy that everyone is there for her new adventures. Meanwhile Fauna could only think of MONEY
numberlings was not a joke huh
>>93864818It's jakartanigs weekend night. Understandable .
>>93865469Based
>>93880625You should watch her stream instead being on xitter
>>93864818The only real issue is that the plushie looks like shit
>>93865297Trying to bring Aqua to her level. BAKA
honestly its on the napplings for buying not fauna did not put a gun to your head and said "buy" heck she didnt even beg for memberships but dramafags will always try to farm "yous" heck she said you should only sub if you really wanted to
>>93865297Aqua did not double dip. Literally took her months to redebut. She probably was not planning on reincarnating but since her fans wanted it so bad she did it
>>93865297Bring Aqua to her level. How low can you cucklings be...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9Wv2ZOslas&t=5251s
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>>93864818>>93865096>>93865469>>93866117So utterly mindbroken
