Flashback Edition>What is /lig/?/lig/ is a thread for viewers to find, share, and discuss indie vtubers who have on average 500 viewers or more.>Why /lig/?Large indie vtubers have more net fans, but they are outnumbered by 2views by the thousands. This is a thread for the VIP, regardless of what language they stream on.>Can I shill my 499view oshi here?Considering averages fluctuate widely, all the way down to 100 is reasonable. The minimal requirement however is being Twitch partner or the YouTube equivalent in numbers.Numbers for 1/17:1: https://www.youtube.com/@niminightmare (77,066)2: https://twitch.tv/filian (6,084)3: https://twitch.tv/dooby3D (5,572)4: https://twitch.tv/Shylily (3,622)5: https://twitch.tv/Sinder (3,572)6: https://twitch.tv/shxtou (2,981)7: https://twitch.tv/fallenshadow (2,535)8: https://twitch.tv/Limealicious (2,299) *Tie8: https://twitch.tv/bao (2,290) *Tie8: https://twitch.tv/Kenji (2,228) *TieNon-English:1: https://twitch.tv/akamikarubi (3,878) *Japanese2: https://twitch.tv/KSPKSP (3,375) *Chinese3: https://twitch.tv/orkpod (2,096) *Russian>Wait isn't that one a corpo?/lig/ is a thread for chuubas of a decent size who aren't defined by their corporate branding, either due to the small size of the corporation or the independence and lack of oversight granted to the talents>/lig/ Numbershttps://lignumbers.neocities.org/>Twitch Clips Guidehttps://pastelink.net/34vd5>VOD Archival Guidehttps://rentry.org/Vod_Archival_Guide>/lig/ VOD Archivehttps://rentry.org/Indie_Vod_Archives_lig>Koikatsu cardshttps://mega.nz/folder/JYtkXJwL#07gAQCQqI_9FsmX9oQJKSA>/lig/ Wheel of Nameshttps://wheelofnames.com/49w-z2x>Tiermakerhttps://tiermaker.com/create/-lig--16586688-3>/lig/ Chuuba Birthday Calendar (WIP)https://www.canva.com/design/DAE-XgWodVg/ofLz4QC1yPPQ4T6TTAE0fw/edit?utm_content=DAE-XgWodVg>Upcoming BirthdaysJanuary 22nd - Lily HopkinsJanuary 24th - YuzuJanuary 25th - /lig/>OC material for the OPhttps://mega.nz/folder/IIVD1IaJ#cfsRhWdJvzneIoG8HZUPuw>Duckshttps://www.twitch.tv/dashducks (embed) (embed) (embed) (embed)Other useful threads:>>>/vt//wvt/>>>/vt//corpo/>>>/vt//flip/>>>/vt//haha/>>>/vt//indie/>>>/vt//mint/>>>/vt//swarm/>>>/vt//vrt/>>>/vt//vsj+/Previous Thread: >>93888247
I Love my wife (who's going to be a little late because of SVP)
inis is a whoreslut and shitty bitch
buhh
Inis should have sex with me
I love my cute, horny and bratty sex fox. I LOVE HER SO MUCH! Erm!
Bro thought he was the fish manhttps://x.com/Inislein/status/1880657997850173941
>>93894008socks is the whoreslut poster??
Inis should take more feet pics and fleshposting
haha
>>93893945Don't remind me of the war..
Filian is a wonderful person who is worthy of love and support
>>93893969Kaneko Lumi and Olivia Monroe are peak.
So the result came in from my poll and 17 people have all agreed that the anti-dya poster is a faggot.
>>93894056>isreal and not for bantzSeems like a fucking random mutual decision right before a meet and greet
>>93894042>>93894056inis said she was terminated in discord. what happened?
why is saru so retarded at this? shes been doing this for like 5 years? how is she still this bad at it?
>>93894042>>93894056why the fuck would you word it like that if it was mutual? this is like the template for "the talent fucked up". also why part ways mutually 1 hour before a meet&greet instead of just waiting until after?
Well this just happened
boss love, boss livering fithttps://www.twitch.tv/rummytheboss
>>93894147Inis is just too Inis for socks to handle.
>>93894147No she didn't
>>93894122Inis was planning to hook up with the fans during it wasn't she?
INIS IS FREE!!! SHE CAN NOW DO THE MAN-SMELL FREE. Go Inis!!!!!!!!!!
>>93894160She might be able to scramble and get her own booth or something.
>>93894147>>93894122of course the hr fag is going to lie and say that on a public forum
>>93894186>>93894160fucking retard
>>93894151She has an army of mods to help fix any issue she gets so no need to learn anything herself.
>>93894056>>93894160Do I trust the HR lady or ESL Inis on if this was a mutual break off or not
The idea that people want to work more days in the week is weird. Where's the mob? Someone needs to get mogged.
>>93894186Retard
>>93894241I don't trust menhera women but that's just me
>>93894223>>93894249Discord's fault, not mine. Refreshed after the post I replied to was made and it wasn't there
>>93894241they could mutually hate each other lol
>>93894186Retad
>>93894248i read mogged as magged lol that's funny
>>93894186>>93894277Retard
I think dya want to be a bimbo but is too prudish to become a bimbo
don't talk shit about yomi i like her
>>93894248I thought the push was for 10 hours a day 4 days a week instead of 8/5, did it change at some point?
Miaelou is pushing low lig numbers...
I hope Layna doesn't stream today
>>93894299wow.
>>93894327>10 hours a dayain't no fucking way. that's the kind of bullshit amazon wants to normalize for their slaves
Here's what happened (From an insider)>Inis simply refused to let the idea for the man-smell stream go, even when SOCKS told her it's not happening>Man smell stream involves men sending Inis dirty laundry in the mail, which is a violation of EU law>They found out Inis would be soliciting man-smell contributions and secretly mailing them to her during her meet and greet>They had enough and fired her>Inis had been expecting this for a long time and doesn't think it's a big deal>The man-smell stream is more important to her than being in any agency, especially a stupid one like SOCKS
Inis should watch the Boondocks with chat.
>>93894042She got terminated because she didn't want to sleep with Socks
Just had a nap and I feel great now.
>>93894377She's not wrong
Based OBS and streaming tutorial stream.
>>93894396I'm the insider. I'm inside inis
>>93894327There are retards that want 6 or 7 working days now because they can't keep themselves busy on their off days. I understand if you're poor because that's what I did but I didn't want it.
>>93894396That's my theory too
>>93894396that socks would care enough to try to stop her from letting men mail her their clothes is really funny. it's really not that big holy shit
>>93894377>why is dramawhore dramawhoring
I love my dog
>>93894442miss positivity shitting on people for not being as popular as her or her friend isn't le based
>>93894396>dirty laundry in the mail, which is a violation of EU lawWhy is there a law against this
>>93894380anon i work 9 hours a day 5 days a week
>>93894227Except they are also retarded.
>>93894377Ok but she's right
>>93894377she wrong
>>93894446Cant wait for next year when she tries to up the bitrates again and get encoding errors, again. Funny that this happened right after we talked about her bad memory
which ligger has severe copper deficiency?
>>93894248>>93894327It should be 8 hours 4 days a week>MoneyThat's a separate issue
>>93894495literally 1984
>>93894495biohazard. mostly infectious blood and fecal matterI blame Germans
>>93894496Surely that includes 1 hour break?
>>93894396I instantly believe this and will repeat it outside of /here/ with 200% confidence
>>93894019She looks cute with glasses
>>93894495Eh, could be worse, like Straya laws.
>>93894493I advocate for objectivity I don't care about false positivity
Seem to be inis leaving was chosen on her free will without bad blood
Do you think Inis would be happy if I sent her my dirty crapped briefs?
>>93894566*stares*
Will Shondo drop Barbies for Nimi and DokiMint collabs?
After Socks didn't let the crazy hag post tits on Twitter I think it's pretty fair to shit on them
okay but seriously who is inid?
I hope shondo and nimi never collab
>>938945541 hour break? You want a 1 hour lunch break, too? PINKERTONS! GET THE GUNS!
>>93894595read the discord, retad. she was fired.
>>93894630newfag
>>93894595this is all a bold faced lie until proven otherwise
>>93894042haha holy shit pinis inis did it again!Honestly why the fuck did this nobody retard who draws shitty webcomics decide he needed to start a Vtubing agency?Mental how everyone and their dog wants blue dorito crumbs.
>>93894607Quelling fleshposting is based actually
>>93894630>inidwho?
>>93894299there's no WAY this is real
>>93894576maybe I only care because I remember when shondo wasn't a dramasister
>>93894595Inis has already said on discord she was terminated but was ok with their the decision
>>93894595Inis was fired, but she doesn't care. That's why Inis is saying there's no bad blood
>>93894658we've been over this. he started the whole thing to boost his literal who 1view vtuber gf
>>93894652sorry i dont watch corpos
>>93894554piggy think he gets to take a break?? next they'll ask to get paid for mandatory work past their scheduled hours
>>93894658I do not watch corpos, but I can see how corpos can benefit even small chuubas. It's simple logisticsThe problem is that everyone who is capable of running a vtuber agency is working a regular job instead lmao
Bepo tummy hort but she's being very brave right now. https://www.twitch.tv/bodegarrat
which chuuba would be most likely to hold Inis tightly until her medium sized breasts were flattened against her body and stroke her hair and give her kisses and tell her it's okay she got fired, SOCKS was a shitty agency anyway
>>93894605Did shondo comment on arkhands involvement in nimis debut
>>93894347ISP issues please understand
>>93894658Its the latest fad for rich influencers to make Tallent agensies. Asmon did it, ludvig did it, moist critical did it
>>93894716who? did it work?
Lots of damage control going on in hereAre these bots?
When is Moriko collabing with Shondo
>>93894694No, inis. they are definitely not going to ask you questions about it. Firing your talent like 2 minutes before an official meet-and-greet raises no questions at all, and no one will say anything.
wear were u wen inis was kill? eye waz jorkiung my peantius
>>93894677she's literally reading the threads as she comments
All wrong, inis was fired for the anti semitic posts she and her community are known for
>>93894677fallenshadow is a retard ofcourse thats real
When is Moriko collabing with Tenma?
>>93894377She didn't have to say it, but she's not wrong at all. >>93894495I don't know how that's enforceable unless they open every package and check if it is clean or uncleaned clothes.
Love my wolf wife
>>93894811>shondo read my posts heh, later virgins. I have basically raped her.
>>93894849it's the kind of law that's just there to punish somebody after the fact when something goes wrong
>>93894845Didn't they collab yesterday?
>>93894811So she's making comments based on the rumors she just read? Dumb move
>>93894815Inis is not a Nazi just because shes a German. After all she's half Slavic, and the Nazis considered Slavs subhuman.That is why today there are no Slavic Neo-Nazi groups. That would be hypocritical and weird!
>>93894849>>93894546How do they deal with returns when people buy clothes online?
>>93894514Well it is possible her connection speeds might get upped by then but I guess it only came with her trying to do the 1440p. It did look good with the model but you can tell she didnt stress test it enough.
>>93894694wtf why?? is this because of the smell thing and they want no part in it?
>>93894607She posted her tits but they were ugly and she's really fat
barbiecord raid
>>93894882lol probably. Was it good? I need to watch the VOD
>>93894815based >>93894895what did she mean by this?
>>93894868keep your disgusting m*le fonts out of my wife's field of vision
>>93894897hi inis
>>93894897>That is why today there are no Slavic Neo-Nazi groups.AХAХAХAХAХAХХA БЛЯTЬ OPУ
>>93894859>>93894487Love my oshi lovers
>>93894897Haha could you imagine russian neo-nazis being a thing? That would be so stupid haha
>Saturday>no slurp slurpi might kill myself
is henry okay?
>>93894939She's a big fan of Lynyrd Skynyrd.
>>9389455430 minute lunch which i usually work through but I give myself a couple of 10 minute breaks in the daystill i'd rather have 3 days to do stuff than 5 days
liggermen claim they love whores, but the liggers they watch aren't even whores to begin with. what's up with that?
>>93894983they be like, he wasn't wrong about us being subhuman!!! Let's go beat up Slavs!
>>93894893Yes yes, however an agency should keep in mind that gossipping nutjobs like her will always exist and be prepared by answering questions instantly
I knew socks was doomed when cami had a pretty strong debut and immediately flushed it down the toilet by collabing with that faggy ass clout leech evanito
>>93894897last time i was in her discord they were posting anti semitic videos and inis called someone a k**e
>>93894897>he's half SlavicDo we now for sure? We know she's "Volga German", but that's about it.
>Doki is a yellow bird >Doki got terminated in January 2024>Inis is a yellow bird >Inis got terminated in January 2025
>Want to start a "menhera vtubing agency" >Couldn't even handle Inis, who's at an all time low for her general menheranessWhat a fraud
>>93895000why did you spell it like that?
>>93894859silbaba!
>>93895031topkek
>>93895052Lol Inis speaks Russian and at least one of her parents is from there. She talks about it all the time.
Good news for any cheeps that still want to meet Inis
>>93894716Why not just pay for viewbots like a normal human?>>93894783If flork actually got "rich" on the level of Zach or Charlie from drawing his mediocre webcomics I'm going to lose it
>>93894716The straight jacket one?
>>93895061>doki has a big fat butt>inis has a big fat buttits all coming together now
>>93895077Excellent Silver postHave 75 Silverbucks for it
>>93894811I'm guessing it's the hag that's his wife, if thats true then why does he let her everyone listen to her masturbate? Is he a cuck?
womp womp
>>93895061
Prepare for Unforseen Shonsequenceshttps://www.twitch.tv/fallenshadow
Okay but will Shondo revise her opinions on males now because of notfauna
>>93895103consider:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volga_Germans
>>93895110idk maybe?
>>93894811Shondo, I want you to know that I will never follow your channel to chat (I don't want to surrender my soul to you) but I still think you're alright!
>>93895029>men we are dramasisters get used to it babe
>>93895122You guys get currency? What's the exchange rate to USD?
>>93895116>doki has a big fat butt (obese)>inis has a big fat butt (sex)Wait i'm not sure i'm following
>>93895072What do you mean?
Saru will be raped by these dogs
didn't socks draw several pregnant inis pics? hard to believe he had a problem with anything she did
>>93895061but dokilen was a purple dragon when she got terminated
I'm happy that Inis is free, the streams when her manager were in voice call with her were shit, even when he was in chat it was annoying. I stopped watching her when that started happening.I don't know how well she got along with the other girls but I watched the first collab and it was so bad, they had zero chemistry, so I'm happy it's over.
>>93895153lol no. shondo is a retarded stubborn bitch
Blatsona from dya
>>93894897>That is why today there are no Slavic Neo-Nazi groups.Why do you think there is a Special Operation in Ukraine?
>>93894909as a general rule (and law) you can return almost anything within 14 days free of charge (except for shipping)but it is a return policy. you are supposed to return new products. if you wear clothes to a point where they are dirty af, they can refuse themthere is also an exception for hygiene productsand stuff like underwear sometimes comes with security features, like hygiene strips for underwearand they wont refund you if those are brokenand they
>>93895076>part I quoted has since been cleared upif she's changed her tune on this I've not heard it, because I remember her lamenting that it was still difficult to talk with fauna
>>93895225what you don't know is that inis demanded these behind the scenes
>>93893945
>>93895140https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkX14-Xl3hU
>>93894811why did shondo never bother to learn anything about the agency her close friend joined until literally just now when there's a juicy drama bomb?
>>93895153only if the males beat someone to death
I used to think that "I can fix her" but lately I've come think that I might prefer her crazy self.
>>93895206you clearly have not seen Inis's butt and do not understand the difference between a fat and phat ass
Why make your org the insane bpd whore org if you can't handle insane bpd whore behavior?
has anyone checked nina or Oli's discord about the news?
>>93895284because ignorance fuels her corpo hate and she hates when others dump their issues on her and not the other way around going by silvi's accounts
Limes in the Saru chat
>>93895272Woi!
>>93895320Crickets in Ninacord.
>>93895316Probably the same reason why men think they can handle bpd gfs .
gonna be honest brosi dont really care if inis is in a corporation or not
>>93895362>Crickets who the fuck is that? Am I supposed to know who that is?
>>93895272She should use this model more often, it's cute
htt-peepee://twitch.cum/Lucy_sexy_tummy/123456htt-peepee://twitch.cum/Lucy_sexy_tummy/123456htt-peepee://twitch.cum/Lucy_sexy_tummy/123456Get in here homosexuals
>>93895320News?
>>93894811>shondo reads /lig/How do I get her to wingman for me and my oshi?
Inis is trying to put on a brave face but i bet she's sobbing into Henry's fur right now.Even if she agrees she wasn't a good fit for that shit agency, she doesn't like being publicly humiliated like this.
>>93895388
>>93895406pp grabber
>>93895320Checked the shibecord and they're currently drooling over pokemon cards. Nina got some cool looking Pikachu and Eevee cards.
>>93895337more Laimus like this
>>93895391>it's cuteyeah, thats, um, one way you could describe it.
>>93894811>>93894893>>93895036>>93895284>>93895336They've obviously talked about SVA behind the scenes, Shondo is just talking like that to make fun of them ala "Who?"
>>93895320Nina's just posting what pokemon cards she got. Nothing from Oli.
>>93894811>actual diagnosed schizophrenic that no man wants to touch irl reads 4chanwow surprising
>>93895072that's the name of the band
>saru plays a souls game>suddenly other liggers who rarely or NEVER show up in her chat are talking in her chatThis keeps happening, is this common for other streamers to get other streamers in their chat when they do souls games too?
just a reminder, apropos of nothing, that Criken's friends made Layna "feel uncomfortable"
>>93895370I'm sure I can manage to wrangle Saru.
>>93895388crickets would be a cute vtuber name
>>93895405Smooth talking edgy frog
Sisters...
>>93895460Also erotic
>>93895381Neither does Inis, that's why she dabbed on them
>>93895495souls games attract a very particular flavor of autism, and saru is already an autism magnet
White liggers that have nigga moments?
Aloo
I never liked Inis, but I will now pretend I did just to shit on sock
>>93895495they're all there to backseat, no one can resist the urge
>>93895477I'd touch her irland I'd make her feel protected and lovedbut its not like she would have an interest in me. and I do respect that
>>93895498But you’re mean. And that’s worse.
>>93895457
>>93895552what's with the ferret being sinful?
>>93895552Can you post a demure and nice looking Limes.
>>93895539you will never be a loli shitdo
>>93895548Sayu
>>93895391Does Pink Thing have a mascot?
I just hope Inis left the corpo before she met up irl with anyone from management
what happend to laimuschizo. I don't see him around much anymore saying "faggy" this and "tobshart" that
What's the Australian word for a Prison Purse? Need to know for the next Chromu stream
>>93895548Saru and Shondo
>>93894487Haha yay
>>93895406So where is the gay sex?
>>93895548
>>93895606Trashcat is both her model and her mascot, but she has other models as well, such as Wormu
>>93895571she's a woman anon, if you're not handsome or rich she's not going to want anything to do with you, no matter how much keyfab she uses to make it seem like she actually cares
>>93894042>>93895071Sock just heard that menhera women make money, that's why he advertised it like that. He doesn't know how to actually deal with mentally ill women like Sakana does
>>93895646What does trashcat look like?
>>93895552I want Limes to fellate me while wearing long gloves
>>93895663>like Sakana doesThis is implying that he's good at it either
Can you guys slow down? I'm still on baking cooldown
>>93895606Yeah, these things
>Inis meet and greet canceled 10h before"no bad blood between us" my ass. If they left on good terms they would have let her do the meet and greet
>>93895673a pink creature with a bow on her head that looks like it was drawn by a retarded child.
>>93895648that is arguably wrongthere is still sane women out theredespite what the internet wants you to believeits just that the insane ones are very loud
>>93895574sorry that was mean
Is it just me or is Shondo's model really British looking?
>>93895709I see
>>93895711they were clearly covering their ass for something they new Inis was about to say.Something such as... please send me your soiled clothing in the mail
arkhand won
>>93894677Is she wrong though?
>>93895693Well he's only lost one so far
>>93895693he's not, he just figured out that you need more mentally ill women to act as a buffer
>>93895630The real gay sex was the friends we made along the way
>>93895709me on the right
>>93895663lol im ngl I wish I were him, would love to put some WOMEN in their PLACE
>>93895761It has to be related with how sudden it was and then no meet and greet
Miaelou HATES the Half-Life 2 antlions.
hell hath no fury like Shondo, all worked-up, clackity clack clacking on her keyboard
>>93895746You shut your fucking mouth
So when can I send my man smell to Inis?
>>93895711that is a pretty bad movethe event organizers will not like that oneso either they are unprofessional, or were expecting Inis to do somethingbut the whole situation is unprofessionalthey should have axed her right after the meet and greet
>>93895783I really want to sniff Chromu's ass
>>93895709THEY ARE EATING HER
Imagine you went to to con just for the m&g
>this is most anyone has talked about her in months LMAOOOOOOOO
>>93895423>humiliatedkekinis has 4x the viewers of her "genmates"they did merch for her once(?)
>>93895596aloo?
did Inis confirm she would not be appearing? right after the termination notice, she said she would still like to do the M&G
Sock has basically always been a joke but now nobody is going to want to do any form of business with him, very good move on his part imo
Been listening to Cottons EP on repeat the last couple of days... I think it's over for me.
So did Inis want pissy shitty underwear? Or just like, a sweat-stained t-shirt?
>>93895863don't deliberately misunderstand what I said. I didn't say they treated her well; quite the opposite. It's still a source of shame to be treated that way in public, before a big event.
>big news happen>people talk about LMAOOOOOOO
I think it cute dya is so parasocial with her chat that she doesn’t want to collab because she will miss talking to her chatblin while in that collab
>>93895908the latter, you weirdo
>>93895875Yes she just said she's not going but Oli said she can join theirs but it's not certain yet
>>93895837You could say thathttps://files.catbox.moe/gdojqh.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/fcoheb.png
>>93895863I did not realize that Inis has an average of 300 viewers now. that is quite some growth
>>93895423More like she realized that Sock's agency wasn't doing anything for her and started to shitpost at them when they were preventing her from doing streams she wanted to do
what do i do if i really enjoy lucy, but i dont like the parasocial shit?
>>93895951fuck SOCKS right in the ass. I am going to send them BUSHELS of filthy, filthy laundry in protest.
>>93895952>Second oneHell yeah
>>93895959Post her image here and jerk off to her coomer posts
>>93895959realize that she is a grifter whoreslut and shitty bitch
>>93895959get in the pot
I still like socks since the hag there posted her tits.
big news
I just woke up why did Inis get cut from SVA?
>>93895860calm down sister we will resume normal anti posting soon
ironic that they are called SOCKS yet they are complete pussies about letting viewers send Inis their dirty socks.
>>93895948They should have just let her do it
>>93896000she's so inspirational
>>93895284because she gets all of her news from /vt/
>>93895889He's also known to be a huge prick with a massive ego for a guy who doodles socks in Ms paint. He doesn't keep friends long and he has a reputation among online artists.
>>93896016rrats are being spunwait warmly
>>93896000>trips of truth
>>93895959I also do not participate in the parasocial bitYou can just watch her without telling her that you love her 50 times in one streamJust don't be a jerk in her chat and you will have a great time
>>93896016Poached by Otiscorp
New dya lore: blatchin>no hat >wear clogs>hated by all chatblin
>>93896016see>>93894396>>93896034well, it is technically against the law, but they didnt have to be such dicks about it.
Shondo poaching Inis for barbiecorp https://x.com/fallenshadow_YT/status/1880657962655785308
>>93896006>”city bitch”
>>93895284>deflectingwhy is pphead typing? i see through your lies!
>>93896029>join SOCKS Vtuber Agency because you have a fetish for used socks>start trying to coordinate a way for your fans to send you SOCKS>get fired
Vtubers giving their fans silly mascot avatars is fine but I don't really like when they're drawn having sex with them instead of a generic human self insert.
>>93895922>Anything but her streampoor inis...
>>93896064G-ghosts!
>>93895867Very nice
>>93896016she rejected sock guy
>>93895952oh my
You know, I remember the 3am girls only watched Inis's 3am debut and then bailed on the rest
who is this sock guy. is he as bad as Seth?
>>93896128Its fine wisps suck cock better i can confirm so they make better onaholes still
Buhh?
ehehehhhehehhehehehe
>>93896016she is too hot and the socks guys spouse made him fire her
>>93896121mascots as really huge buff human self-inserts but their heads are replaced by their mascot avatars
>>93896161That was funny. I also only watched inis
>>93896166not now Ecto, this is a very serious matter.
>>93896161>Inis's 3am debut
>>93896163if we annoy him enough on social media he will have a schizo moment and lock his account and then say he needs to take a break. I think hes done that before
>>93896164Erm
>>93896163His name is Sock Yarnsteen
>>93896121your opinion is noted and immediately discarded. please attempt to make higher effort posts
>>93896077How does this wrinkled ballsack get all the bitches?
>>93896163no he's just some funny internet cartoonist https://x.com/FlorkOfCows
>>93896166thats the noise she makes when she pees on me
>>93896249Bitches love his pouch
>>93896000lol bat is funny
>>93896199KEK
Vei stream when?
>>93896083I don't personally hate him so she's wrong
>feel like I need to nap>gotta stay awake so I don’t miss the late Lucy stream Oh I hate this
>>93896238Your opinion is noted and immediately discarded. I will however attach an image of bat to my post next time
>>93896273This ligga looks like boiled chicken.
Wait, did socks just terminate her right before a M&G she was meant to have for them?
QRD?
>manage vtubers>try to groom the mentally ill girl>it works, she keeps calling you and wanting to play lol with you>think you're a genius and your gf will never find out because it's your "job">the girl keeps calling you when you're trunf to sleep and making wierd demands of you>it gets so bad you start to avoid her>have to fire herInis is ungroomableRemember when event0 talked to her on Twitter and she sent him a Pic of herself shitting and he said to not talk to him again. She's too much for groomers to handle
Will Veibae "Get sexual" with Ecto now that they are both on the trolls team in OnlyFangs
this bitch is not playing illegally on pc right ?
Grimmi face reveal
Do we thing Inis will keep her model (drama-free), she'll keep her model but at the cost of immense drama and impotent legal threats from shrimpdick, or she'll end up relinquishing her model and having to redebut?
>>93896345*rapes and cums inside you*
READ THE THREAD YOU LAZY FUCKS
>>93896338yes, they are shitty human beings.
>>93896383I always knew she was a cat
>>93896223>we
>>93896345inis got fired from her corpofallenshadow is being a retardnimi is a golddigger
>>93896407Timing is super weird, they could have waited until kawacon was over
>>93896387is this a serious question? Inis designed, drew and rigged that model herself before she joined SOCKS
>>93896414Yeah, everyone except you. We don't want you here.
this saru stream is so bad I thought I was watching juniper for a moment
>>93896290>stream whentry next week wednesday
>>93896188Literally me
>>93896391No
>>93896121If I was a woman & a Vtuber I would make my mascot a dog (I'm white)
>>93896378100% agree
Is Saruei a dummy?
>>93894396Sending worn clothes in the mail can't be taken seriously to be against the law unless it is done with malicious intent
Shondo talking about kissing a 12 year old again, someone stop this menace
>>93896380No she's playing on a PS4 with a capture card
batatvideogames is the most ugly ligger
>>93896165AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>93896383i wish i was her cat
>>93896000>liggermen discussing vtubers.mp3
>>93896378>she sent him a Pic of herself shittingIn Germany this is considered an appropriate way to flirt with a potential partner
>>93896387They should steal the model Inis drew and rigged herself before joining their agency and recast it with a new girl. Make her french this time.
>>93896458Lucy would do this
I don't really care about anything going on but shondo is a dumb cunt
>>93896454But I want stream...
>>93896380She mentioned thinking the emulated version looked like crap. >>93896322I like how the skeleghosts are trying to grab at her and it's like she doesn't give a shit.
>>93896503She's a 5/10. There's plenty of actual ugly bitches.
>>93896567are you trying to start ww3?
looking forward to the word cloud from this thread
>>93896503
>>93896449good luck on your uhhhhhh twitter raid
>>93896378i could handle herinis DM me we can do crazy shit together and go on hikes and stuff
>>93896485Your objection is noted, counsel
>>93896414Yes, back in my day we broke site rule whatever the fuck it is "for teh lulz"
>>93896586too bad
>>93896503i think she is cute in a scraggly, street-urchin kind of way
>>93896290Now that Soda is back to 60 she'll probably be getting pre-raid BIS on his stream
>>93896015I like this gif of Mashiro panicking. Makes me want to pick her up by the crown like a beer can.
>>93896548In Germany, if you aren't sharing shitting pics after the 3rd date, then it's not gonna work out.
You think Inis would date me if I sent her a photo of my toilet clogging logs filling the bowl? I'm talking like, 2 GrimmisIt's a talent
>>93896503she's ugly but only on the outsideand the inside
Anny's ovaries are taking critical damage
>>93896730yeah from me
Shondo hinting that she's joining a corpo or something>nda>something that will make con meetups easier in the future
>>93896699It worked for Sludge and Layna
>>93896503sayu is right there
>>938967523am
>>93896752She said it was for Vexpo, you deaf retard
>>93896752its probably VA shit. VAs get such easy access to cons because they bitch and moan
Inis going to stream today.
>>93896752her ego is far too large for this she's just going to have an "agreement" with some company the same way she'd hate being in 3AM but piggybacks off them for meet and greets
Inis is going live in a few minutes. Be there or be square
>>93896800Sayu is hot in a weird way and her menhera adds to itI'd fuck her
>>93895337wait fuck now that I'm back on the actual computer with a 1440p monitor instead of 1080p over RDP, I notice these gens are quite crustyah wellprolly one of the reasons I didn't use that style lora much
Will Shondo join Dokicorp?
>>93896503>most oc>most subs>collabs with everybody (only /unity/ ligger)>biggest female fanbasethis makes males and other sisters seethe
>>938967523am threadInis quit Socks because she's joining in group alongside the other girls
>>93896752she literally said she is signing ndas with vexpo you deaf motherfucker
saru is a bad streamer and people should not watch her
>>93896879can you do some backshots with salacious look and tongue out like she caught you looking?
>>93896844shondo has had VA in her bio for like 3 years and still nothing to show for it and the assertion "you can't afford her" for personal projects
>>93896911Don’t tell me what to do
>>93896894copeshes joining 3am to be managed(deep dicked) by mr xlr (olivia montoe with a strapon)
Shondo is going to take faunas spot in hololive now
>>93896584cute
>>93896752youre retarde d
>>93896911Ok sister
parabreasts
>>93896911Too bad I'm watching Saru
Inis is a nice girl and she’s really weird but she means no harm
why are meatheads like this?
>>93896942dumb bitch. they cant all be successful vtuber/VA like coqui
>>93896958Bro what’s with that random ass toilet paper on the floor next to the door? This guy stupid or something
>Shondo talking about Inis>being careful with her words and implying stuff>says "Inis and socks are, no longer together"Interesting way to put it
>>93896648grrrr
>>93896000this is the kind of bat content I'd like to see more of, she could be the next filian
off my meds and watching shondo to celebrate/cope
>>93896923not today, have to rest from the ~24h of travel, haven't slept since yesterday morning
>>93896958>a full pizza for eachImagine the caliber.
>>93896503squ.......
>>93896872i'd fuck her too because i have a severe case of yellow fever
>>93897088when will pink return has she said anything on twitter or dickcord?
>>93896338The MnG is organized by 3AM and has nothing to do with Socks, but yes
>>93897129You dont order pizza with plans of keeping some leftovers?
>>93897157Where did you get this footage of Inis?
>>93897157that's fucked up, but also really funny
>>93897157Designated flyer
>>93897060the problem is shondo acts like she's already successful and complains about nepotism in the industry while her experience is one nepo hire for JAST that fell through and a likely nepo hire for whoever the fuck was bringing vtubers to LA to wine and dine them
>>93897074rrat; Inis handed in a notice expecting it to be a few weeks before she officially left, Flork being a spiteful cunt terminated her immediately before her M&G
>>93897074the vtuber throuple failed
>>93897179nope. hasn't said anything since new years eve
>>93897196Wrong.
>>93897060Coqui's voice is so weird so it's odd to me she's had some success as a VAShe's very one note and I haven't listened to her roles but I can't imagine she fits them very well
>>93896958>buy the standard IKEA black TV stand>don't actually use it as a TV stand because it's too low but instead use it as a surface to put random shit on top ofthis dude is literally meexcept for the gf i guessand the whole nonironically watching bat thing
>>93897196how deep does 3am go
>>93896378>she sent him a Pic of herself shittingDid this really happen?
>>93896958This could be me if I gave up on my oshi. but I'm stupid
@meat you should graduate
>>93897157I look like this
>>93896942but she's so talentedhttps://youtube.com/shorts/QSWwTZ7sCH8?si=e9OZIdXtzbpBA1Bs
Juna sponsored MV debut in 5 minuteshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1h6YsEQcso
>>93897099ok but please do them eventually, thanks.
>>93897216lmao I hate her even more now
>>93897157Bыпьeм, гoлyбь!
>>93897276Drawn pic, not a photo
>>93897157this is funny until you appreciate that bird is dead
erm
>>93896584>ywn see Saru's gore covered beaming smile after you take down a tough beast together on the dark streets of Yharnam
Why is it impossible to have a convo here if it's not about the thread darlings?
>starved sisters trying to make drama about the least dramatic termination in the past 5 yearsuneventful month I guess
>>93897343Skill issue
>>93895503Layna seems mentally unstable and I figure that her neurotic demeanor is an adaptation that's keeping her personality in check.
>>93897276yes
>>93897343What dost thou desire to discuss, o wise poster?
>>93897343>people talk about the things they want to talk aboutwow
>>93897358Anything to seethe about Shondo
>>93897315wait til you hear that the VA wine and dine experience wasn't talked about until other vtubers mentioned it first because shondo insisted the whole time that she wouldn't so much as talk to a man while in LA
>>93897261Whats up with the SVA x VAllure connection
So, no one is going to stream Kawacon?
>>93897358Canceling a meet and greet when her fans are already there is pretty wierd and shitty
>>93897343why do you type so much like an AI generated fat guy that it's nearly impossible for me not to quote you in green text next to an image of an AI generated fat guy?
>>93897264what? her voice is perfect for thousands of anime roles
>>93897343keep posting and ignore the schizosthey will get bored eventuallythe paratards won after six months of that one schizo (meathead)
>>93897358all of which was made worse by shondo lmao the dumb bitch
>>93897261Well that's on me for not paying attention to SocksI only knew about the Barbie girls at the 3AM booth
Layna post more AMSR this week it's kino
>>93897401feel bad if you never experienced when she was a better person publicly and didn't rationalize her dramafagging with "I made 70 dollars from my checkmark"
>>93897343Just keep posting about streams and ignore the boring drama.
What did Filian mean by pic related
>>93897343It's not, you just have to make interesting posts
>>93897495Keep crying, sister
what do you think the De Leon guy's thoughts on Shondo's career decisions are
>>93897428>met with twitch ceo>only brought it up after oli leaked and her chat brought it upnice "marriage" shoncucks
>>93897264Have you ever heard Coqui talk about the subject? She's not a "character actor" who does a hundred different voices. Coqui *is* the character, and casting people love the way she sounds.
NONSTOP NIMI NIGHTMARE
>>93897401kek they literally cannot help themselves. this doesn't even have anything to do with shondo>>93897449>>93897495
>>93897439good morning saar
Para stream in one hour
>>93897358Hi Sock, you're a shithead.
>>93897358It's amusing that someone tried to make a bait thread but every reply is either who? or people talking about why Germans like shitting so much
>>93897499It was the Olympics. She was just saluting the athletes.
>>93897539>But then again I don't listen to english dubs so I guess you guys are content with literally anythingjust imagine the AI generated fat guy
>>93897564diaper wearing crazy woman
Tanya live!https://www.twitch.tv/kitanya_is_herehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TxlzONYqso
>>93897562that's a new one....
If I ask for the Inis one will they hand it over?
>>93897398I don't know... I just felt like complaining because I haven't been getting (You)'s today.
>>93897553>this doesn't even have anything to do with shondoinis isn't the one flinging shit about all thisif you don't want shit flung back then don't start
>>93897428KWAB hope she kills herself
>>93897678they're smoldering in a huge bonfire in the middle of the convention hall as we speak
>>93897358you are banned and divorced tuffnarback to your containment thread
>>93897678finna tribute on the yomi cutout try and stop me con staff
Is it true that BPD girls fuck the best?
>>93897564para is my oshi and i enjoy posting images of her here in large indie global
>>93897741No
>>93897628Diving in her dumpster looking for her shit stained diapies, bringing them all home and boiling them in a big pot to make caca soup
Shondo and Pillow should collab and shake their slugs together
>>93897678Doubt it. It's the only one people might actually recognize.
>>93897644WAKE THE FUCK UP MAX SHE'S LIVE
>>93897741yeah, but they'll also fuck your dad and friends too
>>93897529LMAOOOOOOOOO
>>93897678Who the fuck is the blue one
>>93897744then why did you post this image of kumhole
I need to create a new set of AI generated fat guys. Maybe I'll try to put a vtuber in the background of each one so I can claim they are on topic.
>>93897499She is trying to reach the fruit snacks on the top shelf
>>93897794>_2FI maybe dumb.
>>93897678you could probably just steal it
>>93897678Someone please kidnap this standee to save her!!!!!
>>93897741Girls you genuinely love with all your heart do
when is shon playing saya
>>93897828have you tried generating sexy girls
>>93897810If only their name would be at the bottom of the standee or something...
>>93897678I have never seen any of these except for Inis
>>93897540Her archetype is pretty niche and pigeonholed and I don't think she's actually been cast in itShe has roles, so I'm trying not to say she's never been cast, but none of them are impressive in the slightest; a minor side character in Penguindrum and a slightly more important side character in Urusei Yatsura's remake
>>93897741Eh I'd say it's a roll of the dice and what phase they are in. Really it's not related probably and case by case.
>>93897811sorry krum is just so sexy i can't resist
>>93897874only once
>>93897810yomi quinnley. she's a tiefling scientist
>>93897863probably never on stream because she says the sex scenes are too important
>>93897678which one is socks gf so I can schizo and anti her?
>>93897794Anon...
>>93897828I have never been warned for my fat blue men what are you doing wrong
Thank you Oli vod person for uploading one of her Pokemon vods like I've been asking. Appreciate it.
>>93897741Yeah, but as payment then they break your heart, rend your soul and cheat on you, blaming you for it and mocking you.
>>93897903>none of them are impressive in the slightestfat guy at it again clackity clacking
>>93897678I would just toss on a high vis, pick it up and tuck it under my arm like it belongs to me, and walk out of the convention hall
>>93897959link? Ive been wanting watch that as well
>>93897863The only place she could is Pomf and I think if 2k+ Shondophrenics all opened it at once the server would fucking explode
>>93897954this one never gets me banned
>>93897810babiniku
>>93897499>tfw no fillyheadpats
the owlverlord is here!https://www.twitch.tv/silvi
>>93897959all me
>Shadowmama is a lolibabaToT
omg guysdid you know my penis suddenly ejected into a sock?
>>93897965the absolute state of meatschizo 3AM dickriders>you're painfully right so I will depict you as a fat manjust post a basedjak at this point and save yourself the embarrassment
>>93897905You know I think despite her big talk Saru would be a dead fish in bed, just laying there hiding her head under the covers.
>>93897959No problem, do you really want any others?
>>93897959oh the one she did with Marimari?
>>93897430Whores x whores
>>93897959great youtube channel with awesome vods and they all have very low views
>>93898057Is shadow mama better and out of hospital now?
>>93897678Isn't the one on the right the one who randomly posted her disgusting fat woman tits and nipples on twitter
>>93898079>just post a basedjak at this point and save yourself the embarrassmentkeep digging
>>93897961Damn bro, did she hurt you?
>see coqui>immediately do this to her https://files.catbox.moe/lh8jxt.webm
What a strange thing to fire someone over, they could have done a compromise like Oli did with buying a bunch of men's deodorant and rating it or something.
>>93898116last I heard yeah
>>93898127u don't like boobs?
>>93898080That's exactly what I think too.
*takes a big stinky shit in the middle of the thread*now the thread is a lot better. youre welcome
>>93898080some of us are into that
>>93898194thanks rainhoe
>>93898194German hours...
>>93898014This is sir jeffrey bengals. You post the same images to people you troll on Twitter.
>>93897529Proof?
>>93897959Speaking of vods I saw that Yoro uploaded a highlight vid of one of her movie watchalongs to her vod channel the other day. It's a really neat idea and I hope other chuubas start doing it too
One day I will meet all the Barbies and I'll spill my spaghetti in front of all of them
>>93898288what are you doing looking at his twitter, faggot?
I guess Kens for barbie fans is now official
>>93898172Is there any actual proof that's what caused it or are you assuming the shitposts are right?
>>93897495>>93897553>>93897449
Shondo and Nimi should make out
thread is moving so fast no one will know Im gay
>>93898361Pretty sure it was for awhile now
>we've got POWER>we've got INTERNET>we've got COFFEEit's a good day
>>93898395
>>93898395hah GAAAAAY
>>93898374
I miss Tob. Did her house burn down in the fire?
Saru sexpesting the goon doll again
>>93898374how do you rationalize it friend
>>93898346I checked it out when people were accusing him of being laimuschizo
>>93898456was he laimuschizo
>>93898030Fucking hell man, poor girl
did inis left her agency?
TANYA IS A CATFEEMSH!
>>93898450Rationalize what?
>>93898395do you also post pink cat
>>93898499dyarikku
>>93898414I ran out of coffee
>>93898496She was fired according to shondo
>>93898496She was fired and then laughed in their face
>>93898482I conclusive. All i got from his twitter is he likes Chromu and Zenya and that he trolls people on twitter and 4chan
>>93898515no I watch Olivia
>>93898518could you not mention dya or feemsh, especially in a relation to kitanya, whom I like?Thanks.
>>93898447Is there an oyokadon-like term for fucking a living doll and a French brat?
Anyone have a video of a ligger being an absolute shotacon sexpest for me to gob out to?
>meanwhile, /vsj+/ is having a nuclear meltdown about Silver second day in a row (and she's not even streaming)
>>93898288god his twitter fucking sucks. sjb you're a terrible namefag
>>93898566sounds like a cool guy. He must have a huge penis.
>>93898030>click stream>graduating Well, alright
>>93898547why would the word of a liar matter
>>93897914now make her pregnant
>>93898609looking at men on twitter means you are homosexual.
>>93898596glowiechama...
>>93898640How is Shondo a liar?
>>93898650I think I made some pregnant Geegas a long time ago, when stable diffusion slop was first starting to become popular
>>93897329I wil now watch Toma
>>93898653yes i literally suck the cum out of dicks you need to come up with better insults
>>93898443her powers been out
>>93898547retard>>93894160
>>93898500someone who was once a paragon of kindness saying "it doesn't pay to be the bigger person" over 70 twitterbux
>>93898030Whatever happened with her and Eien?
>>93898608It gets like that everyday around this time. One guy starts posting about silver, whether she's live or not, and presumable he replies to himself into other retards bite. It's been years at this point, but I guess certain people never get tired of (you)s
>>93898716can you do that to mine?
>>93898716if you took it as an insult, that means you are a self-hating homosexual.
>>93898757of course babe come here
>>93898750>ironlungis she still pitybaiting and botting?
>>93898732When did that happen? Do you have a link or screenshot?
>>93898750We have those too. Better to not mention them so they don't get attention.
>>93897401she’s so powerful
>>93898791Yep
>>93898577
>>93898750pay the tittolie tax
>>93898791we don't talk like that here. we don't watch vshojo, but we like them and think they are cute. You sound like a holokek.
>>93898750Up until recently you could set your watch by when the limes schizo would turn up. It's really sad to think that this is their whole life
>>93898833smash it with a hammer
>>93898659female paedos make me rock hard, I don't know why
>630 postsqrd?
>>93897369You replying to yourself is obvious and sad to watch
>>93898847>we
>>93898608Did she do anything, or just regularly scheduled schizo posting?
I should go to /vsj+/ and save more Zentreya webms.
>>93898750>He replies to himselfNo they hate the fuck out of Silver for spurning the mouse, that's why they seethe at her
>>93898839Ogey
>>93898847corpo lapdog make your mandated 10 shill 3am posts NOW
>Shondo getting mad at people being mean to guys doing sweat things to girlsSo do pbd girls either become full on whores, or hopeless romantics like Shondo and saru?
>>93898897
>>93898884but that guy wenr to my twitter to see if I am limeschizo and claims it was "inconclusive". I guess I just retired the limschizo personality, and moved onto other things.
>>93898897inis sacked
>>93898897Scroll up ligga, you have a finger right?
>>93898937weird post. what does one have to do with the other?
>>93898939>doing sweat things
>>93897678anon. pls pls pls ask it and post it on twitter for inis to see if you get it. you gotta do it for the cheeps
>>93898939shondo looks like a skeleton and her only fans are unironic pedophiles but somehow she has the ego of john waynetruly baffling
>>93898928When I saw his posts I thought it looked like a /lig/ schizo and now I'm even more sure
>>93899020Inis got fired for attempting to do "sweat things" with her viewers
>>93899057You say that as if the Silver hate wasn't a thing before /lig/ even existed
Is 4chan sounds better now I don’t wanna miss out on cool soundposts anymore
>>93898939They go through phases of being whores to being romantics. See Saru.
>>93899051is Oli a pedophile?
>>93898298I want Yoro to peg me
Oh, kek, flork already left Inis's discord server
>>93898992>trying to play dumbnot fooling anyone. get your corpobeggars out of my indie thread
>>93899110>>93899110>>93899110
>>93899057all schizos are unironically just one person
shonbaker get to fucking work
>>93898939I'm gonna assume she's talking about that one tweet that's doing circuits about the guy at some hacking thing who wrote a note about wanting to go on a date with the only girl there. I think a lot of people are just tired of shame culture and reacting so negatively to such a mild attempt at hitting on someone.
>>93897919that's just true though, the story loses impact without them
>>93899092Something happened to it?
>>93899092i just make the sounds myself
>>93899108yes but it's okay because she's an attractive woman
>>93898939>sweat things>pbd
>>93898750nah, you guys really are seething at Silver for being rude to Mouse
>>93898016need roman whore gf
>>93899424>>93898016My Paizuri Rape Slave.
>>93898796here, for context, this was a day apart, the first messages are her talking about monetizing her alt on twitter
>>93899564>im farming drama to buy a house>its not about the moneywhat a retard
>>93899564god she types just like us
>>93898003https://youtu.be/HnWjOcujy90>>93898090Moemon would be nice as well as the final fantasy vods that aren't up yet. 9 and X, I think?
>>93899704she lives on /vt/
>>93899564There's no issue here, she's saying that she'll get attacked by Twitter frogs no matter what she does so she might as well make money from that engagement. Do you think that she asks for the thousands of death threats she gets from Twitter?
>>93899564(additional context) she went on a depressive rant after this about how much stress she's put under by her family and housing situation and eventually deletes the drama farming tweets
>>93899722thanks
>>93899564hehe based shondo
bout to sexpest mimcubs wyd
>>93899845this wasn't an issue of her responding to things she was dragged into she was just straight up farming drama lmaoand she has said every time before this that the best way to avoid it is not to engage, as she did with the trans controversy, the only thing that changed was her pointing out that she profits from it now
>>93899985How was she farming drama?
>>93899564hehe based streamer!
>>93900049shut up retard
>>93900198>No evidence or examples of the claim you're makingThat's what I thought
>>93900049aggressively quote tweeting people who she doesn't know and never mentioned her to call them tourists and quote tweeting some shit about managers to do her epic 4chan "they're all boyfriends actually", none of that shit is her being drug into anything and you can call her right about those things but it's drama farming especially when she specifically points out that she profits from doing it
>>93900383>No links or screenshotsAnonymous posts aren't evidence
Ok liggermen, be honest with me for a secondAre all of the shondo haters here just jealous chuubas?What shondo does makes perfect sense to me. she makes sound arguments. but all I see is shitposts that screech about behavior that Shondo does not even partake inIs this all seething sisters, or is reading comprehension really that fucked in 2025?
>>93900263>asking questions you already know the answer to and not engaging honestly kill yourself
>>93900539maybe half that, haf genuinely mentally ill scorned goslings who can't let go. I once visited /shon/ and quickly found out that some of the worst antis became that way because they posted cringe in DMs and got treated appropriately, and they never forgave her for that.
>>93900539right now it's just holo tards having a melty because of nimi
>>93900568I am engaging honestly, I don't know anything about what you're trying to claim and I'm asking you to show me that it's true. You being unable to do that is not my fault, it's yours and all it does is make you look like a rambling schizo
>>93900539I don't think genuinely there's many sisters involved with her to the degree to have such specific complaints. Personally I'm not a scorned gosling I just hate the dramasister pivot. You'll have to take my word that she wasn't trying to be the based "tells it how it is sorry about your feelings" chuuba.>>93900448>>93900693pic related, you can go search for the manager tweet yourself, she didn't delete that one far as I know
>>93900539>reddit spacingdidnt read
>>93900870I can't see what either of those tweets say, from what's visible it looks like another VTuber is saying that lolitubers shouldn't exist, which is what Shondo is.>you can go search for the manager tweet yourselfIf it existed you would show it to me, with how invested into this conversation you are
