>>93997970
That reply was me
I still think you should kill yourself

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>>93997970
They ruined Fauna for me

women should be vtubers and men should be fans

>>93998077
please seek help
https://warosu.org/vt/image/TfPeMbfeKOHszV91F5WB8A

>>93997970
my oshi 2view had to go on hiatus because a male vtuber was harassing her, that was 2 years ago and she still haven't appeared, so yeah, male vtubers should kill themselves

>>93998116
>women should be lauded, praised and paid for being women and men should pay for it
Actual beta male behaviour

>>93998396
Sounds like your oshi wouldn't have had the mental fortitude to go any further regardless

>>93998077
I don't understand how Fauna paying a dude to edit a video for her is a betrayal. She was already doing that with SJTree and that other fag that made clips for her. If anything those times were worse because they were committed fans who dedicated hours just to get her to notice them.

>>93997970
Go make friends offline. Only women can get away with being gay narcisists

>>93997970
Total male vtuber death

>>93997970
stay a fleshie if you want to make friends

>>93997970
Just don't be a vtuber?
Unlike women ugly men can be top streamer without resorting to 2D mask
See the fat fuck who won award last year and streams to ~70k people everyday

>>93998499
people who use "beta male" unironically should kill themselves

>>93997970
Fear not. The indiesphere will liberate vtubing from the tyranny of unicorns and desegregate the sexes.

The meltdown delusional aggrieved saplings are having here is more entertaining than Nimi's channel. I want a /vt plushie

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>>93998054
>>93998116
If you're going to keep being autistic unicorns then I'm going to keep saying Mumei is unironically autistic.

>Meanwhile Nimi gets 27k viewers

Sisters.... our response?

>watch cute girl
>she collabs with a dude
>he starts trying to flirt with her
>realize she is in fact a whore
Go to hell, Elia.
And fuck anyone who still watches the whorse.

>>93999021
Unicorns run this hobby
Whores and whore enjoyers should kneel before us

>>93997970
https://youtu.be/F8ma4YbU7Jg

>>93999043
>Lower than Doki's 3rd stream, who barely able to pass 5k nowadays
Oof
The future is looking grim

>>93998928
>>93998499
The term is simp but the answer is that male vtubers who perform for women should not be shocked they have a smaller audience, since women will tend to watch large established males. Men will scatter and watch smaller female vtubers, because there is less competition.

Women all think they're going to land gigachad, men know they should go for the ground less tread upon. These dynamics inform how people choose to enjoy their stream content.

>>93999021
She has ADHD, which has some traits in common with autism. That's why she randomly gets off track or hyper and drinks lots of caffeine and is awake at 3 AM doing karaoke (at least, back in 2022).

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>>93999304
She has a lot of traits more in line with autism too.
-can't maintain eye contact and have face blindness
-is sensitive to physical contact and doesn't like hugging her parents out of fear of hearing their stomachs growl and feel their breaths
-hyperfixiates on little details on stream
-dislikes very specific sounds like balloons popping or the way her grandparents say 'celery'
-hates the sound of lotion and the feeling of it on her hands and her mom would rub lotion in car rides just to annoy her.
-struggles with theory of the mind (realizing other people have a different set of information than you.)
-dislikes sudden small changes
-ordered takeout because she didn't want what her mom was cooking and told her the takeout would taste better. Mom got upset and at the time didn't know why she was mad.
-speaking in a strange candence where she'll either yell something out or speaking in the same pitch
-got stuck in a hotel elevator with someone and they got scared and started crying. Was told by Mumei to stop crying because she didn't know why they were scared.
-has difficulty visualizing things in her head
-has an extreme obsession with whales and orcas specifically and can easily be read as a special interest.
-her parents behave similarly to her and autism is hereditary

>>93999143
Elira status?

>>93997970
if they were more chud friendly they wouldn't be so hated. the whole Hogwarts Legacy fiasco is a good example. How many male ENVtubers played that game? pretty much zero, I wonder why

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>>93999043
>getting 1/4th of your Hololive audience for your debut is a “win”
This cope is pathetic

>>93999392
do you like watching mumei or is your autism picking up on her autism?

>>93999110
based

>>93999576
Because what male gives a fuck about Harry Potter?

>>93997970
why do you hate cockroaches, just let them infest your house

>>93999110
>and other lies I say while crying myself to sleep at night
Sapkeks are hilarious

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That's an ASMR gfe-like vtuber, saying she doesnt like male vtubers is what is referred to in the business world as "branding". She's re-assuring her fans that they've made a good decision of choosing her because they don't have to worry about male vtubers being able to "steal her away".
Whether or not she's actually talking to male vtubers is besides the point, it's just branding. Even Shondo does it, re-assuring people she's definitely NOT talking to Vox and his deep voice, and therefore making her audience think that no matter how big a male vtuber is her love belongs completely to her fans. It's just branding.
>"No but she actually literally really really for truly doesnt like them lol she's autistic and schizo and she actually scares away men irl she cant even go out to buy groceries so I dont have to worry about men haha she'd be so lost without us fans"
^ is a sign the branding is successful.

>>93997970
I watch vtubers because I like seeing cute girls doing cute things. Cute anime girls = me being happy. Males don't fit in the equation. Understand?

Your oshi is getting dicked down right this very moment.

>>93999634
BOTH :D

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>>93999647
If you're going to keep being racist then I'm going to keep saying Mumei is autistic.

>>93997970
Vtubing as a medium is focused on milking lonely men and building parasocial relationships with them.
It's only natural they don't want another man be near "their" woman. It's basically exploiting instincts.
Most vtubers don't provide any entertainment outside of that.

>>93997970
vtubing is a female hobby. All homos should rope themself or become a fleshtube.

Male vtuber hate is a radical feminist psyop. Male vtubers are more entertaining than women.

>>93997970
you can make friends without becoming a vtuber anon

>>93999976
The question was - why do you hate them?

>just become a fleshie
Okay, so are you going to watch me then?

>>93997970
I don't want to watch a loser making online friends

>>94001738
If you are fun or bring something of value to the table, perhaps
If you are just another reaction slop faggot then kill yourself

>>93997970
I don't hate male vtubers. They're great tools
If I want to know if the female vtuber I'm interested in watching actually cares about vtubing all I need to do is check if she follows male vtubers on twitter. I don't even bother watching debuts anymore. They're a useful timesaver

>>93997970
This industry is sinking and beta lead. Lead by a bunch of asian male fantasy.

>>93997970
i seem to be of the minor but superior side of the fandom that are just here to watch entertaining people and dont want to fuck the 2d woman

>>94002773
There's nothing wrong with being both. I can be mentally sound and still want to take my oshi to pound town.

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>Woman: "Grrr, I hate male vtubers, they're all a bunch of rapists and bullies"
>Male vtuber: "All saying this does is just make it harder for any normal guy to become a vtuber since they don't want to have to deal with being called a rapist before they even open their mouth"
>Woman: "SEE THEY REACTED NEGATIVELY TO MY POST, SO I WAS RIGHT!!!"
I hate pickme vtubers so much

This board is weird with the male vtubers mentality. One one hand the most popular EN ones,.like Niki and Holo Stars EN are lame faggots. On the other this place's male vtubers hate sounds like radical feminists from 2014. I blame western streamer culture

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>>93998077
kekfeet you gotta give it up man this shit is sad

they janny'd him because he spoke the truth

>>93997970
3rd one is factually true
every single time a male wants to collab with a female vtuber it turns out he immediately starts being a sexpest if not before the collab then right after, and if she says no then he blocks her or never interacts with her again

>>93998587
This. It's only over if she actually collabs with a male. Until then, I wouldn't jump the gun

>>94005328
Kekfeet won tho lmao

>>94005328
jesus christ man. kekfeet whoever you are, please clean your shit

>>93998054
FPBP again

>>93998587
She's doing extremely well, hololive is still doing extremely well. They're desperate and seething, please understand

>>94006481
What caste?

>>93998355
no kidding holy shit

if a male could cut it as a streamer then he'd be a fleshtuber
male vtubers just want to fuck female vtubers while also being bad streamers

>>93997970
REEEE MISOGYNISTS is fake. Fourth is his only viable option other than quiting and he doesn't want to accept it.

>>93999021
I'm beginning to suspect this poster is Mumei

>>94010999
>male vtubers just want to fuck female vtubers
If he was a flesh stream you'd accuse him of doing the same thing should he follow or even collab with a vtuber. Like they syykkno guy or shit taste.

>>93999392
>got stuck in a hotel elevator with someone and they got scared and started crying. Was told by Mumei to stop crying because she didn't know why they were scared.
>-ordered takeout because she didn't want what her mom was cooking and told her the takeout would taste better. Mom got upset and at the time didn't know why she was mad
are there clips or timestamps for these? that's very funny

>>93998054
FPBP

I don't hate them, I just think they're really gay and I'm a straight male so I don't watch gay shit. All male vtubers have faggot designs.

>>93997970
I don't really care, I just like how some people lose their shit when you throw shit at the homos, I do it with some chuubas as well, just because

>>93998054
king

>>93997970
>Miru the Bear
She's another Proctor onahole by the way

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>You should watch males vtubers, man. They're brotubers!
The brotubers:

>>94016554
i'd watch the shit out of this

>>93999782
Saps are pro-homo

>>94016554
this guy went all in on pandering to females and it still doesnt work

>>94016554
I actually really like Shinri. I mean, he is pretty gay, but he acts legitimately mature which is super rare among vtubers and explains his thoughts so clearly that it's very easy to trust that his only motive is enjoying the job and believe that he's totally genuine. Helps that he has a clear content direction so he's very much the same type of streamer as all the non-vtuber horror guys like ManlyBadassHero except in a sphere of my interest.

You tend to watch corpos as a batch though and the third gen of stars EN kind of turned me off so bad that I kind of weaned off of him and now I haven't seen him in months. I'll probably try to catch another one of his streams now that you've reminded me of him.

>>94016821
>but he acts legitimately mature which is super rare among vtubers

isn't this all male chuubas?

>>93997970
I just don't understand the appeal of anime boys at all. I watch male fleshtubers just fine. Why do these men need an anime avatar? I unironically think it's better for men to stream without an anime avatar since it won't automatically filter out the male audience.

>>94016821
>ManlyBadassHero
This guy is so overrated. He's fucking boring and he sounded dead inside when I watched him play MiSide.

>>94001738
no, I don't watch any streamers that aren't vtubers

>>93997970
That is the excuse all groomers use

>>94003479
Just... don't become a male vtuber? I don't understand what the issue is. There's literally no benefit for men to become male vtubers when even ugly men can gain an audience just fine.

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>>94016746
Maybe you should. He needs it.

>>94016916
Vtuber or not, male or female, popular or obscure, most streamers are very obviously manchildren or womenchildren.

>>94017184
>There's literally no benefit for men to become male vtubers when even ugly men can gain an audience just fine
I mean, you have one less debuff not trying to pander to the vtuber audience that only wants cute girls but lets not pretend it's fucking easy to get an audience starting out as a streamer period.

>>94003479
Get fucked lol male homotuber faggot

>>94016821
>legitimately mature
>constant vague posting worrying fans
>too scared to call out his audience and only tip toes around drama

>>94016916
no? just look at any of the various missteps of le retard de vox akuma.

>>94016821
Then he would be unironically more successful as a fleshstreamer.
Theres literally no advantages to being a male vtuber. Its actually better to just not have a face nor a png at all. At least then you wont be shunned away from the normies audience.

>>94016990
Its content for females with no taste

>>93997970
Men tend to compete with and hate other men, just how it is

>>93998054
fpbp

>>93998077
Sapcucks

>>94016821
>>94017384
Nothing is stopping him from making good content on his PL. He is nothing without stars and nothing with it.

>>94017428
That's only the case here because everyone is on permanent "woman competition" mode. In real life, men are way better at being bros than women, who are always secretly talking shit about each other even when they're friends.

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>>93998499
this. your oshi ain't going to fuck you for having a priapistic hateboner for male vtubers. What if I am a weeb that wants to stream, likes the anonymity, and to be more animated than a png?
Every screeching autist replying KYS like gifrelated to a perfectly reasonable question are severely mentally ill. Like Poopsquatch levels of retarded

>>94017611
You say that, but the competition brainworm is a lot more common than you think. Pretty sure most guys just tolerate the shit talking slightly "better"

>>94017731
>Poopsquatch
Wait a minute is Andrew Ditch popular or are you talking about someone different?

>>94017184
> There's literally no benefit for men to become male vtubers when even ugly men can gain an audience just fine.
Idk, if a dude wants to be a vtuber cause it's cool or whatever, I wouldn't have a problem with that. But every male vtuber I've ever seen has tried to pander to the homo/female audience. They'll have some male stripper looking model and talk with a faggy inflection. Say shit like "I'm a meowster of crime, here to stweal your heart". If you took most Holostars and they acted and talked the same way and were fleshtubers they'd be just as gay.

Imagine having a son, and finding out that it's Altare or something. It's just so humiliating to even imagine. They're literally a professional faggot.

no no, you misunderstand. vtubing was always about women, for women. women are placed on pedestals by their target audience and they make money by pretending to be chat's collective girlfriend to varying degrees. because obviously you don't tune into them for advice and wisdom. women don't watch vtubers for this purpose- they can fulfill their superficial needs for attention by simply finding a target audience. it's also why dating apps are so incredibly skewed in their favor. it's a supply and demand issue and unfortunately equality in this industry is not a priority.
and they prefer it this way. so go out there, work your 9-5 40 hour workweek and make sure to renew that twitch sub, for this cycle will continue to perpetuate itself until you decide you've had enough. the three or four so male virtual streamers that happen to make it big are just a smokescreen, and their content is incredibly hampered- they pretty much either coombait for fujos or provide bfe for the truly most depraved.

>>94017893
that's the one. netizens know

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>>94017731
Maybe I dont want to fuck my oshi. Maybe I just want her to be in her comfort zone, begin retarded and cute and not worrying about the advances of a sexpest and/or leech?
Watching a vtuber is an entertainment, just like watching movies, tv shows, etc. Some people dont like horror or romance or comedy, etc. Why is it so hard for you beggars to understand?

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>>93998054
fpbp

>>94018027
I actually think male vtubers pandering to a female audience is just fine. But then why are male vtubers complaining that the male audience doesn't find them appealing? Like, isn't it obvious why? Just stop expecting to grow a male audience.

>>93997970
>Most male vtubers I know just want to make friends
Why not link up with other male vtubers if you want friends? Why was this solution not proposed? It's almost like male vtubers won't even consider friendship with anyone they aren't trying to fuck and everyone is right to call them creepy sexpest leeches.

>>94018259
They do? What male vtuber do you know that only ever collabs with females and not other males too?

>>94017362
Those guys are outliers, look at all the 2view males who are dour and monotone.

>>94018027
I watch a handful of male vtubers that just stream their niche nerd hobby to their small audience and I'm willing to bet thats who OP is referring to with the unearned hate. CGDCT is great, brotime is also great
>autistic people may experience sensory overload in situations with strong emotions or conflicting viewpoints, which can further complicate their ability to engage in discussions about differing opinion

>>94018328
So then what is OP whining about? Sounds like if male vtubers "just want to make friends" then there's no issue with that.

>>93998054
You are a good ambassador of our community

>>94018160
what if I want to be a retard neet male vtuber that explicitly does not try to network/collab/interact with female vtubers, specifically your oshi? Would I be permitted to exist by you people then? Or is your oshi still somehow in danger?
Not a beggar. I'm arguing the merit of male vtubers merely existing at all, not being part of a corpo with segregation

>>94018248
And what's worse is they don't do anything that the male audience would like. Where are the male vtuber exports teams? Or a male vtuber boy band or i don't fucking know just stuff guys like. Why aren't there any male vtubers that play Madden, or 2k or Fifa or actual guy shit? It's all apex and now Marvel Rivals slop. How can so many niches exist that perfectly appeal to the massive market of straight males who would want to watch a relatable bro do bro shit yet hardly any of them try to occupy those niches? And then they ignore those niches to try and collab with people's oshis and expect people to think they don't have ulterior motives...it makes no sense

>>93998077
need to be on some deep deep inbuilt misogny, for women to be your perfect saints until they walk some imaginary lines, & are stupid whores

i watch chubers i enjoy, i dont watch many male vtubers cause it doesnt interest me as much but i still pop in for a stream of a male vtuber every once in a while, simple as.

i dont think seeing fellow men as simply "competition" makes you the most sociable or amicable person

>>94018160
>not worrying about the advances of a sexpest and/or leech?
Fair, but to what scope are we talkin here, exactly? On stream? Within the same company? On twitter (public)? DMs? IRL?
Please say what you're trying to say in a way that doesn't infantilize your oshi and force her to basically be chained up in a basement (by women, of course) for her whole life.
>Watching a vtuber is an entertainment, just like watching movies, tv shows, etc
That's fine, but what you're talking about goes past the screen, and into the tabloids. Are you a tabloid gossip woman, anon?

>>93998054
FPBP AGAIN

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>>94018617
>Would I be permitted to exist by you people then? Or is your oshi still somehow in danger?
Come down off your cross. The only person that permitted you to exist was your mother and she plainly made a mistake. How about you stop giving so much of a fuck about what people have to say? If it doesn't apply to you then it isn't about you and you should let shit slide.

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>>93998054
FPBP

>>94019110
>not a single argument

>>94019186
What needed to be responded to in that reply? It was just pathetic, impotent whining.

>>93997970
Not everyone is meant to fit into places. Only some people will excel in something. In this case, women dominate. That's just how it goes. People just don't want to have male vtubers about when they want to watch cute anime girls. Not everything is fair and equal, nor is everything logical. You simply just have to accept that there will be a disadvantage and a stigma

>>94018617
Of course you're allowed to do whatever you want. But then you would bump into problems like this >>94017384 , which is a whole new discussion.
My previous reply was in response to the "if a fan dont want males with their oshi, that means he wants to fuck her" angle.

>>94018433
>brotime is also great
Dude just admit you're gay.

>>94019328
>>93997970
the topic. are you dumb? If my post was so lacking in substance, why were you so bothered by at as to reply with lame insults and deflection?

It's weird. I love mixed gender collabs from JP vtubers but I'm put off every time I see one done by English vtubers...

>>94019907
I did respond to the OP. It's right here >>94018259

>>94011721
She wouldn't post /here/ because she's just enjoyers

I don't know why it's so hard to understand. Just stay the fuck away from vtubers that you know don't do male collabs jfc it's not rocket science. Look at the shitshow that was the Kronii/Vesper stuff and the fact that since then she hasn't done it. Who benefitted from that whole thing? If that Caspur guy is actually thinking about collabing with Nimi holy fuck is he in for some abuse

>>94019806
your argument is
>you don't get to have anime avatar because you don't have vagina
No matter how you look at it, this is absurd. I just don't buy how this can be the case if I'd rather have an anime avatar than Western, png, or none at all, if it aligns with my interests.
I like anime, I like video games, Id probably enjoy streaming my niche hobbies to like-minded hobbyists too.
>>94019862
Not gay, just 30+yo neet with no friends. Everyone got married and shit. Im TRYING to deprogram the gfe mindvirus and just enjoy vtubers as entertainment as >>94018160 said without all the arbitrary rules he [and(You) all] invented apparently inextricable from the medium, but still find myself primarily watching Holo and a handful of indies all day

Just trying to make sense of all the madness

>>94018971
Its quite simple, really.
After working and coming home, I just want to watch a comedy show, laugh and then go to sleep to start the grind tomorrow again.
I dont care about the horror show that the same company does. I just want to enjoy my comedy. But the moment some people start going "no no, you HAVE to watch this horror show too, its from the same company. They should have horror sprinkled into the comedy show, maybe a few cameos and stuff!", of course you will get people that will start hating that horror show from the get go, just to avoid the possibility of that company thinking its what the audience wants.
Simple, isnt?

>>94019985
you replied to me with nonsense while I discussed the topic
Your post >>94019985 is perfectly reasonable for the first sentence. The rest is as nonsensical as your reply to me

>>94000077
fair

>>93998077
please kill yourself. no one will ever respect you.

>>94020337
Yes. I agree with everything you said. Which is why I take issue with being called a beggar, as I've never done anything of the sort in my entire tenure as a vtuber fan, nor in this thread. I was engaging with OPs topic, which sounded like it is from the perspective of an asp male vtuber taken aback by the sheer vitriol (first post both threads), devoid of real discussion or answers. I find myself on the side of male vtubers should exist. I haven't attempted to address why they're universally hated, as establishing my first point was immediately met with collateral blind rage focused on male vtubers

>>94020310
>your argument is
I literally started my reply by saying you're allowed to do whatever you want. It just wont be optimal and you WILL be debuffing yourself. Thats not me, thats what the numbers have always shown.
Its the same as smoking. You can do it, you're free. But you're definitely better without it, as it is known.

>arbitrary rules he [and(You) all] invented
What? Theres no rule. Its entertainment. Everyone have their own tastes. Some people like to spend their time and money on cars. Others on girls. On movies. On Pcs. On shows. And some like vtubers. Its just that a marjority of those prefer female vtubers.

What you're doing is going to a NBA game and wondering why the same people dont watch the women NBA. Its their choice of entertainment.

>>94020154
Anon, you're pretending like Kroni was an unwilling participant in those collabs, no girl does male collabs until they do

>>94018160
>women are pure innocent beings who are completely naive to the world of sex
Lmao

>>94020784
>why the same people dont watch the women NBA
angel reese is a bum

>>93997970
Why is Miru such a fake bitch

>>94020685
From a company point of view, if theres a market, there should be a product. Its why Diet Coke even exists, depite the og Coke being way more successful. That being said, the smart companies just leave the choice to the consumers, never forcing one over the other, since people have their own preferences.
As for the attacks on sight against male vtubers, thats not a vtuber thing; thats how people are. If you say you like apples, there will be people coming at you saying how X fruit is better. Thats how it is, unfortunately.

>>94021335
So where's all the people saying female vtubers are whores and prey on lonely men on here?

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If males shouldn't be vtubers because it's a female dominated space, does that mean females shouldn't be flesh streamers because it's a male dominated space?

>>94020789
All I'm saying is no male vtuber should put them selves through being the first male a long standing, popular vtuber collabs with. Just by simply not collsbing with males for a long time passively builds an audience of people who will not appreciate them worming their way into their favorite vtuber's streams. Her consent doesn't matter. Yeah she has a part in it but at the end of the day we both know who the simps are gonna direct the abuse at

>>93997970
I dont hate male vtubers. I only hate the male vtubers that force themselves into my spaces.

Does this entire thread exist because some 1view homo is butthurt that male vtubers aren't as popular as female vtubers? Because that's really what it seems like.

>>94021612
Like the male vtubers who become mods for the female vtubers and worm their way into their community?

>>94021720
That or its bait.

>>94021793
That would count yes.

>>94021399
Correct, streaming platforms would be infinitely better without titty streamers.

>>94020784
Ok youre making good points
>wnba
I don't mean to come off like that, I like to think I know full well why that's the case

>>94021335
I can accept this, thank you
>>94021395
even seen the catalog?

>>93998054
FPBP

>>93997970
stay in your lane, do your thing, only reach out in dms. know who you can and can't reach out to. really just do your own thing, find others doing their own things and group up and do content together. Best way to start content creation is to do it in a group as you'll be able to play off each other and drama will start and you can bounce off someone to leap higher. this 'job' fuckin blows

>>94017296
Of course its not most people both men and women who try don't make it, its no different than the countless people over the past century who moved to LA to make it big in Hollywood as a famous movie star, 99.99% of them fail. Even most vtubers don't get enough #s to make a living off it. Theres no denying that women have a certain very powerful advantage in the entertainment industry, which includes streaming, due to sex appeal and its not fair but still most women who try still fail to make money off it beyond poverty numbers, and the biggest and richest streamers are still men, so it doesn't matter to the vast majority of people whether men or women because most who try to make a living off it fail anyway. Its only relevant to the few at the top.

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Protip for male vtubers:

You're actually fully allowed to be a sex pest and flirt with female vtubers and they will reply in kind. Even meeting them IRL. They love it. Just under no condition make it public, or do collabs, or engage on twitter. Don't ask them to date.
Don't break this rule or it's all over.

Otherwise, pretty much all female vtubers flirt with male vtubers in secret.

t. I'm cursed with knowledge. I have seen too many supposedly pure female vtubers go and meet irl with other male vtubers even if they would never interact on twitter. They spend long hours talking to each other on voice calls. Sorry unicorns (of both genders) but it's actually a huge orgy behind the scenes. You're invited as long as you never try to make it public or try to make it a serious relationship.

I'd want to be a male vtuber because I like the vtuber lore bit and playing a character. Unless I had a great costume or something I can't pretend to be like an automaton or something sci-fi or high fantasy. And I'm not even sure if I'd really count as a vtuber since I'd primarily doing prerecorded content reviewing local restaurants/places other than tourist traps and interviewing the owner if it's a small business. Streaming wasn't even something I seriously considered until a few months ago when I got internet good enough to do so. I was just planning on making videos while playing a character

>>94022833
it's almost like all people who think themselves as 'famous' do this

>>94022833
I'm sure this happens with /asp/ies but actual successful vtubers don't do this, they know they can do way better than male vtubers.

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>>94022997
True and real.

>>94023161
Nope it happens a lot with bigger ones, but they know how to keep it secret. It's not about doing better than male vtubers, they get some sick pleasure from the secrecy. It's like the excitement of an affair. It's putrid, and fun.

>>93998054
FPBP

>>94021570
>I consent
>I consent
>I don't

Did you remember to ask some sweaty neckbeard?

>>94023705
Terrible mindset for somebody who needs to maintain a paying fanbase but go off sis

>>94023889
Yeah Kroni is really suffering from lack of money

>>93997970
Wait I remember this bitch from something else.

>>94022833
Phase fans found this one out the hard way

>>93997970
>i like cgdct
>YEAH HOW ABOUT MALES?
>MALES ANYONE?
>WHY NOT ADD SOME MALES TO THE CGDCT?
>IT'S NOT CGDCT WITH MALES?
>NONSENSE
>HERE WATCH YOUR OSHI COLLAB WITH A GUY
>ISN'T THIS FUN?
>YOU HATE IT?
>WOW
>DON'T BE WEIRD
>ONLY INCELS DON'T LIKE THEIR CGDCT WITH GUYS
>UUUUUUUU WHY DO YOU HATE US
>WE JUST WANT TO IMPROVE YOUR CGDCT
Please fuck off already

>>94018778
>Why aren't there any male vtubers that play Madden, or 2k or Fifa or actual guy shit? It's all apex and now Marvel Rivals slop. How can so many niches exist that perfectly appeal to the massive market of straight males who would want to watch a relatable bro do bro shit yet hardly any of them try to occupy those niches?
I have seen multiple male vtubers that do those things and other male driven hobbies. For example, here's a gun specialist vtuber: https://www.twitch.tv/gachaguns
Literally every single one of them is a 2view or lower.

>>94015818
Tell us more.

>>93998054
fpbp

>>93998054
fpbp

>>93998054
Basado

>>93998054
/thread

>>93998054
fpbp

>>94017428
This post smells like fat woman

>>94024045
I genuinely don't know why male vtubers even bother. A good 75-90% of people will not give them a chance no matter what. You either ride the coat tails of the girls to try and get some relevance or slog away for years trying to come up on your own or with other struggling male vtubers. I almost feel pity. Almost.

>>94017731
If you are a weeb who wants to stream you are better off having no webcam rather than being a vtuber

>>93997970
Because men financially work better as fleshtubers. If you're trying to be a vtuber then that means you're trying to date other male vtubers. Having more male vtubers also increases the chance that women will collab with them, and I watch vtubers to talk to women not to talk to men.

>>93997970
In the Indogland, mostly male vtuber are sexpest, if you want to become streamer just go for fleshies

>>94024604
>other female vtubers

>>93998587
It's not about a dude, it's about that dude.

>>93997970
They're all sexpests.

>>94020337
this is the best description i've ever seen and im going to use it in future

>>94016967
Have you ever spoken to a fujo?

I rarely watch vtubers outside of my oshi who usually streams 5+hrs usually every day. But isn't that nijisanji JP guy the most watched vtuber with other nijis dudes up there? Why are guys acting like victims or taking shit not directly aimed at them personally. That shit is unironic beta behavior.

>>93998355
How do you determine an image hash?

>>94021335
My problem with the coke thing is that you never see them selling diet coke mixed with regular coke. Hololive apparently wants me to dilute my regular coke(the girls) with diet coke (da BOIZ) and I'm supposed to treat it like it's gods gift to mankind. They want me to look at ERB and Bae and Kronii and Ollie and go WOW A NEW BEVERAGE THAT I HAVE TO LIKE OR ELSE IM AN INCEL??? YABBA DABBA DOOOO!!!!
And what makes it worse is that these good beverages are packaged in the same factory as the shitty beverages. So even if I try to avoid the shitty ones there will still be cross contamination eventually. So all I can do now is enjoy my good beverages while they last knowing full well they will all end up diluted eventually as the rot spreads. Yagoo likes it though. He likes the taste of his boys. He can have as much as he wants. I hope he drowns in it. Drowns in the juices of his precious boys. Like a catholic priest at a local YMCA.

>>93998054
FIBBY BIPPY

>>93997970
If you are so good post your channel faggot and give us a reason to watch you

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>>93997970

>>93997970
it's really not hard to see why, but i'll try to explain it from an outside perspective.

i don't hate male vtubers (they're the only vtubers i watch), and honestly i don't think most people do. thing is though, you go into a stream expecting something, whether it be cgdct or asmr or whatever, and the person you like watching doing something directly contrary to that, and it's gonna be annoying at best and infuriating at worst.

i'm a stars yume, and automatically skip any and all collabs my oshi does with women because i don't watch him for that. i get annoyed when people ask for co-ed collabs. i understand why men get upset when male vtubers intrude upon female spaces because it genuinely does feel like you're suddenly competing for your oshi's attention, however fake that attention may be.

>>94025485
Kind of ironic when she was the one who deleted the post because she couldn't deal with the backlash

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>>93998054
You lost your crown King. I kneel.

>>93998054
HEELLLOOOO??? BASED DEPARTMENT???

>>93998054
Can't believe this guy got the first post in both threads. What a legend.

>>94021793
They don't even need to be vtubers to do that tho
>>94023286
>get some sick pleasure from the secrecy
literally woman behavior to a T
>>94025336
calm down there, brother, you're sounding unhinged
what if they did those collabs only in addition to their regular schedule, like a shitty anime OVA?
or what if they only did it on a male channel, so it doesn't show up on your feed?
does a limited time sale of Vanilla Coke affect you if your regular supply of Coke is not hampered? or are you afraid they'll permanently remove your Original Coke from circulation?
even the sisters get annoyed when the homos collab with women too much
>>94026015
imagine the plot twist if that guy was secretly the OP both times

>>94025696
I wouldn't want a bunch of whiney faggots like you in my replies either

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>>94025696
Cause retarded vtweeters thought it's about their loser asses. They know they're worth nothing and have nothing going on, so they finally had a chance to pretend like they we're part of something bigger, or in progress of growing, before this dreaded tweet destroyed their lives.

dirty male vtubers and pick me girls saw a chance of leeching off of a good take.

>>93998587
NTA, but it feels betrayal since she ignored Holostars existence while she was in holo and now that shes indie. She's finally showing her true colors. If she was honest like Bae, Ame or Kronii about their feelings about holostars, people wouldn't feel betrayed by her.

I don't understand the purpose of these circlejerk threads.

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>>94024069
Always in her channel and he shills her a lot. These onaholes are EVERYWHERE. Guy's a fucking parasite.

>>94020310
it's amazing that you're 30 years old and you STILL don't understand how free market, especially supply and demand works

>>94029406
How is some retard shilling her her own fault

>>93998587
>>94006396
>>94007900
it isn't that she paid a guy to make a vid for her, that is whatever no one cares about that. that one dancing faggot makes vids for the girls all the time and no one cares. the issue is the faggot she got to make the video is a massive fucking piece of shit who is only in vtubing because he wants to destroy CGDCGT vtubing and turn everything into nijishit
Its like commissioning diddy to make a song for you right now.

>what am I supposed to do as a male vtuber
Cease to exist
If you want to be a male streamer you need to be physically attractive and flesh stream. That's it. If you're fat or ugly or just not perfect in any way you can fuck off. Hiding imperfections behind an anime avatar is ONLY for women.

Why don't you

>>94030549
nah even ugly dudes can make it as a streamer there's really no excuse to hide behind a faggy anime avatar

I can see the amount of brain damage this thread has and I'm glad every single one of you has the attention span of a shit flinging monkey. Kill yourselves and have a nice day

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>>94029406
I thought she was based for making people like OP seethe but seeing this explains so much somehow

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>>93997970
4chan is in general, not a target audience for male chuubas. Main issue is, target audience - well, women - usually don't use social media sites, instead using some small discords or forums. At best, they use fucking Twitter. Or, don't use anything at all, enjoying their male chuubas in solitude.

Either you shape your content around 4chan and it's audience, becoming a brotuber. Or just forego it completely and go where your target audience is. Considering how homostars DO earn money - some of them genuinely doing better than ID - there's definitely a niche you can carve out for yourself - women buy merch. Don't expect it to be easy though.

>>94029406
Ah, of course /vt/ is siding with one of proctor's cocksleeves, fucking cucks.

>>94031231
Nobody knows who that is fucktard.

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>>94031242
He's the ultimate unicorn: annoying, vocal, aggressive, perveted, larper, groomer, and full of hypocrisy.

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>>94029406
Why can't this doxxfag fuck off already

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>>94031242
How new?

>>94032093
>>94032004
Is he a vtuber or just some guy? I only know about the /uoh/ groomers.

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>>94031242
Doxx site groomer who has a few onaholes that spill dirt to him such as Mozzu and two girls from SVP including the choc tiger.

>>93997970
>Most male vtubers I know just want to make friends
rumao no we don't, we want seggs

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>>94032183
He is a drama streamer on YouTube.

>>93997970
male vtubers are competition for my oshis attention (if i still watched vtubers, I don't part in thanks to your ilk)
and god forbid you become friends on discord
stay in your lane (doesn't affect me anymore but you should still kys)

>>94016990
You don't understand, he's filling a niche that's larger than you probably realise - thorough LPs with minimal intrusive commentary. Actually silent LPs go too far for most people so something like that is the next step back.

>>93997970
>Phoneposting