Think about it. Why would ANYONE watch some dumb bitch play a game poorly for 5 hours, sperging out at chat for “backseating” whenever they try to help, all while proving their incapable of learning the game on their own? It isn’t funny, or entertaining, it’s frustrating and repetitive and would make normal people click off. The ONLY reason you’d watch such awful “content” is if you had an emotional attachment to the girl, that let you tolerate them doing stupid shit so you could get laid later. There is ZERO logical reason as to why anyone would enjoy a gaming stream otherwise, unless they were genuinely good at games like Dokibird or Botan, but those are few and far between.
>>94002030I like watching cute girls be dumb. No gfe involved.
dsp and ltg exist
>>94002030>play a game poorlyskill issue on your part, find a better chuuba
>>94002030Watching cute hags ungabunga their way through a game I can speedrun is entertaining kys retard.
>>94002030I actually immediately drop any vtuber that is incompetent at games. I don't abide stupid women.
>>94002030My personal favourite content is watching unsuspecting zoomers play "easy kids boomer games" that got a recent port. They get absolutely bodied by atrocious game design and the chat is filled with unsympathetic moron boomers who have such nostalgia goggles they can't remember struggling in exactly the same way with basics like camera and controls when they were a kid.As a result the zoomer streamer thinks it's a skill issue on their part and so it's a true test of mental fortitude that will bring out the worst in them.There's no other content out there that lets you peer into the soul of a streamer and see what they're really like inside.This is also the only content in which I'm willing to watch fleshies and males too.
If a vtuber isn't making me laugh, I stop watching them. Men, women, doesn't matter to me. I want to see anime people entertain me, not give me a boner. I got other stuff for that.
>>94002030Reconnect with your mother, anon
>>94008536This post makes me realise what a good sport Pomu/Mint is. She struggled so hard with MGS1 and Mario 64, but actually persisted, won, and seemed to have a generally good time.
>>94002030It's mostly a matter of preference. Not everyone needs to be really good or play competitively to be fun to watch. Sometimes seeing people mess up is part of the fun, and some even get better over time, which makes it even better.
>>94002030you don't have to try hard to convince people who would never admit it
>>94010751Oh yeah, it's the same reason I admire Suzuhara Lulu so much. She gets her name tossed around like she's a retro game monster, but she's not actually that good. She just doesn't give up, continues gradually improving, and just keeps smiling and having fun as she gets routinely destroyed by the game.
>>94014145You could say the same about Korone. Especially seeing as she regularly plays games for like 12 hours straight, so you can really see her getting better from beginning to end of stream.
>>94002030Normalfags invented this cope that vtubing is actually entertaining when its not. Only simps will put up with that horseshit content because they see GFE in it.
>>94008536What are some of those games? I remember only struggling as a literal kid. After a while most games outside of autistic puzzle games were pretty easy to figure out.
>>94002030Alright ding dong, you want to really pull the wool from your eyes? Not just baiting for (You)s, you really wanna know some horrible shit about this industry?It's not that idol culture is toxic to any girl participating in it, it's not that the industry preys upon lonely men for their money, it's that every chuuba is essentially a different branch of the same religion.It's all cults of personality, from top to bottom. Mind, that doesn't mean they're inherently harmful. In fact a lot of anons have outright improved their lives because they joined their respective branch, but it's still a cult of personality centered around a fallible person.Why do you think there's such insane backlash if a vtuber does something that breaks the fans image of them? I'm not talking just something like saying a benign social faux pas that schizoids will take to heart as a betrayal, or actions that are debatable. I'm talking catastrophic events like being caught fucking a male coworker, or caught on tape saying you actually hate doing what your fans like and wanted to do something else. (hypothetical examples to avoid riling up any specific branch's followers)The answer is simple, it's the equivalent of if Mother Mary was still alive somehow, regularly speaking to Christians, and then it came out she was just a whore who passed off Christ's birth as divine to avoid punishment. To the biggest disciples of these new religions, a revelation like that is literally psyche shattering. This is why there are chuubas who had events like this and still have fans to this day throwing money at them. Sending money in these extreme of cases is simply a means of unconsciously maintaining their delusion. Everything, literally every single thing regarding fan behaviour and chuuba culture, makes immediate sense when you notice it's all hijacked cult brain circuitry. Case and point, this post is guaranteed going to get people labeling me a schizo, insult me, or make sophomoric arguments that hold absolutely zero water, despite never actually ascribing traits to people into chuubas beyond acknowledging it's positive sometimes.
>>94015730>be schizo>make shit up
>>94014624SM64 is a classic. Boomers and modern speed runners think it trivial, but the camera controls in that game is a fucking monster to wrangle.Banjo Kazooie is shockingly rough to players who go in expecting a fun zatsu game where you go around collecting things.Conkers Bad Fur Day is fucking kusoge tier trash in terms of lack of clarity on where the fuck you're supposed to go and absurd difficulty spikes in certain sections.Majora's Mask and its 3 day cycle and the fairly indirect hints on how to progress are a devastating combo. Unfortunately backseating faggots and the changes to the save system in the DS version no longer casually nuking over an hour of progress will ruin it, so it doesn't work well for this purpose.GoldenEye and Perfect Dark are absurdly difficult to wrangle the controls if you're used to twin stick shooters, to the point where players will get rinsed by the first guard on easy. If they're emulating with a mouse injector hack though, they're actually very chill games aside from the objectives being super unclear.Basically everything produced prior to the N64/PS era is brutal, but people tend to expect that from it, so it's rare to find someone go in blind. The Nintendo switch's retro library also kind of ruins the mind crushing experience because the savescumming is a little too easy and streamlined. Emulator savestating on the other hand often comes with the risk of ragequit moments of quicksaving over files or forgetting to make a save. On the other hand if the player goes into a switch retro library game with some misplaced pride that they don't use this feature it's always a good watch to see how long it takes before that pride is shattered.
>>94015906Most SNES games have a difficulty that works for modern gamers. Mostly because you don't have to wrangle baby's first attempt at 3D.
>>94016276Yeah, but it's still in the tail end of the era of the rental market and guide book sales. I'll admit it's not as egregious as NES era.
>>94014145Thanks man, I haven't heard of her before but she sounds like my kind of chuuba.
>>94017041Unfortunately she graduated a long time ago...
>>94002030>The 2 most popular vtubers (Ironmouse and Neuro) are known for almost never-ending male collabsumm?
>>94002030Your argument is right but that is not what GFE is
This same line of thinking is what made Beatani fuck off forever
Oh right I should mention the one game stream that had me utterly enraptured. Some utter psychopath managed to recommend a JP translated Lisa the Painful to a well adjusted and lovely low 2 view streamer without spoiling anything and she played it blind. She stuck it out until part 3 but eventually dropped it because it was messing her up emotionally.
>>94015730well said anon. That was thought out
>>94002030Duh
>>94002030Dokibird good at games, lol
>>94015730Initially I was planning on nitpicking your post and rebuttaling what I thought were the weaker parts of your argument– but no. After re-reading it, I legitimately think you have a clear and concise argument, and I can't honestly say that I believe you're wrong. So, good shit anon. Here's your (YOU).
>>94002030Good thing I don't watch game streams
>>94002427That's like little sister experience which is just a tiny step away from gfe.
>>94023440If you're going to twist anons word into some it's not, then I'm going to keep saying Mumei has autism.
>>94023814She looks like she has it
>>94015730Why does this make perfect sense
>>94002030This but for watchalongs
>>94002030I dunno if it's inherently gfe objectively factually scientifically... but as long as the person playing it isn't actually any good at it and gives you no particular reason to be there, it is inherently parasocial that's for sure. either way dumbasses prattling like gfe and parasocialism are only some small aspect of vtubing and everyone is a "totally normal" person besides them really are missing the entire big picture here. they're parasocial too. it's also possible to be a fairly well-rounded normal person and also be parasocial for streamers, they pretend it's not because that makes things easier for them to rationalize and argue about if they can put away "those" other people into a box in their minds and pretend they have nothing in common. they do/you do. it also is possible to care probably way too much about a vtuber as well and those people are inherently deeply parasocial, but this is like saying nobody should ever be allowed to drink soda because fatass diabetics drink a gallon a day and it's unhealthy. yes it certainly is for them, but not everyone is like that and it's a self-control issue.
>>94015730This is correct, by the way.
>>94015730For me, that's probably part of it, but I also like how much community engagement orbits chuubas. Fanart, animations, music, memes. It's cozy.
>>94002030Youre correct about everything. Every female vtuber should follow this zealously
>>94023814Does anyone even disagree with you?
>>94029898You must haven't seen what's been going on in global
>>94015730You know, this is a pretty decent explanation. I thought it not applicable to me, but my rrat weaving behaviour /here/ is pretty analogous to a low tier priest reinterpreting the acts of god to make it more appealing to a wider audience and spread the faith.Fucking around pushing my oshi that I picked over dumb arbitrary reasons through shameless psyops and rrating that have only scraps of reality in them is where I draw most of my entertainment from.Trying to divine her intent and needing to revise the "scripture" when I was inevitably wrong without people schisming on me is half the fun.
>>94017852you are just going to say that and not give a link to the stream huh?
watches her chuuba being a sweaty toxic tryhard in most games she plays ... being a dragoon is like the anti gfe now mint on the other hand ...
>>94031090You could watch literally any male streamer and handful of female chuubas better than her. You choose to watch her not because she’s good but because you like her. You’re parasocial and find her to be gfe in some way
>>94031258eh im a original bark knight ive been watching doki since the start and there no oshi better then doki non nada
>>94031347Yeah I don’t mean she’s not good at games or a good chuuba by the way . I just meant you don’t watch strictly because she’s good at games.
>>94002030ogey
>>94002030>dookiebird>goodYeah maybe at blacklisting characters and then crying when people call you a retard
>>94009533/threadNot everyone is mentally ill like OP (who is also a fag)
