>'I'll be able to upgrade a lot of stuff to prepare for future fun content!'Upgrade what? She already has a KU100 and a beefy PC. All she does is yap and play Northernlion games. Where is all this money going?
>>94425504Not 3D lives, ASMR or songs. That's for sure
One thread wasn't enough?Stop obsessing and watch your oshi.
>>94425568She literally said she didn't want to leave Hololive and likes idol stuff.
>>94425618/#/pags do not have oshis
She really is not mincing words over how much she fucking hated HololiveGot a feeling the friendship with Nerissa and Gigi isn't gonna last very long considering their gonna be doing fes/expo stuff very shortly here
>>94425756She also hasn't played with them since the day she graduated.
>>94425714>Least amount of originals+covers out of anyone that debuted before 2024 including fucking Kaela>Only holo who debuted before 2023 with zero 3D lives>Didn't go to breaking dimensions >One of two holos who didn't go to holofesShe LOVED idol stuff so much she never willingly did it except!
>>94425781Patently false. She played league with Gigi and Nerissa a few days before redebuting.
>>94425947That's actually what I meant. Since she became Nimi it all suddenly stopped. Why?
>>94425885kek this post makes Naplings seethe so hard because they have to accept they were lied to and got played
>>94425504>KU100she can honestly sell that too at this point since she lost passion for ASMR
>>94426079Well Nerissa has been busy
>>94425714https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lie
>>94429390Self report
>>94425714she also said she wants to just sit home and stream at the time she was preparing for graduation you don't really need money if all you want to do is "hang out" with the chat for 3-4 hours every other day let's be real she was never the type to invest her $$$ back into content if she does something like a music cover for her proper debut (that will probably also come with merch) it will be already above expectations.
This is the 5th time Holofags have started harassing a girl after she left the corp. Just a coincidence surely.
>>94425885ANTIANTIshe's just shy, too shy to talk with mixers and all the other people involved just give her time 3 more years and she will release covers you need to keep believing and giving her money
>>94429542Well yeah, it does in fact take one to know oneI'm a liar so I can recognize another liar
it's really unfortunate that so many shitposters shit on Fauna atm so agreeing with them almost feels slimy, it feels wrong because people crapping on her are scum but she really doesn't look like a great person atm not bad enough to actually affect anything though
>>94425504wow i guess they werent making money
>>94425756I've watched all nimis streams and I have no idea what you're talking about. You need meds because you are imagining things nimi never said.
>>94425504I thought she got a fat paycheck from graduating, why would she need to fundraise less than a week after debut?
>>94429238>since she lost passion for ASMRWatch streams faggot she literally said she's going to use her spare LemonleafASMR youtube channel for ASMR so it doesn't affect her Nimi one. She's getting back into it which proves it was the Hololive environment that made her hate doing ASMR.
>woman working job>women grinding hard for moneyGRIFTER WHORE!! HOW DARE SHE MAKE MONEY!! You guys act like she cast a spell forcing you to pull your credit cards out. I don't sew how seeling plushies to people who want plushies is a bad thing.
Upgrades: paying for her non-chibi live2d, 3d model, tracking setup for the 3d model, full suite of lovense gear, better microphone. Use your brain anons.
>>94425504>Immediately mentions ASMR shitAh, so you faggots shitting up catalog are asmrfags still butthurt.
>>94430034>woman working hardShe's got males for that
>>94430040Shouldn't she have enough saved up as Fauna to do all this without selling plushies 20 minutes into her debut?
>>94430145Shh. Don't remind them that all of this could/should've been bought already and she's not some inexperienced new indie that popped onto the scene starting from scratch like she's weirdly pretending to be. Let them keep swiping their credit cards for this grifter it's hilarious watching them waste their money on an ewhore.
>>94425504what a fucking liar, could she not upgrade with the hundreds upon hundreds of thousands of dollars she already milked from the saplings?
>>94426079Jesus this is patheticYou guys are really trying and it hurts to watch how sad you are.I don't have a horse in this race, I stopped watching Hololive at the end of 2021 quite literally because of their hardcore push in to idolshit and I was done with it, but seeing how much you kidiot children try to attack them and anyone that slights Hololive is genuinely hilariousYou make Nijisisters look competent.
>>94430245Boring rrat.My rrat is that she had to pay a hefty fee to graduate which is why she intentionally said what she did during her announcement as a final fuck you
It's crazy that F***a is now an unironic grifter, tarnished her entire legacy from Hololive and everyone just seems to accept this. In fact they're rewarding & encouraging her scummy behavior.
>>94425885she enjoyed it but she can't sing. she may be a grifter but she's not stupid, you have to play to your strengths. and she was tied with Ame as the worst EN singer by far
>>94430611Don't think, just swipe.
>>94430658I know. I had no intention of following her as an indie but I wanted to still watch her Fauna VODs if no EN was streaming. I can't bring myself to watch them now knowing what she is.
>>94430786You worship Yagoo's ballsack.
>>94430007lollmao
>>94429801bro discovered thinking for himself
>>94430631>My rrat is that she had to pay a hefty fee to graduate which is why she intentionally said what she did during her announcement as a final fuck youNo she's literally just a shitty person and did it out of spite
>>94425756Why would Nerissa or Gigi care she didn't want to keep working for Hololive?
Reminder: seething on the internet is NOT a hobby
>>94430623>I stopped watching Hololive at the end of 2021 quite literally because of their hardcore push in to idolshitanother ironic weeb filtered
>>94425504Not even the Quinn schizo complained this much over a plushie. Kami/BVTM people are a sight to behold.
>>94425504i swear i heard this one before, i can't remember where? hm....
>>94432101Another phase orbiter got outed as being a blacked whoreThey're particularly upset about having their daily cuck humiliation kek
>>94425504Plushies and stickers will make her bank because they're easy to mass produce. Her plushie could be a lot better though.
>>94429638No, she received plenty of hate before she left too. Probably one of /vt/‘s most universally hated talents at this point.
>>94430623how so? you really have no problem with her begging, hat in hand, like a pauper, when we know for a fact she probably has half a million in her bank, at the very least?
>>94434531Only 5 people /here/ actually dislike Nimi. Most of this board supports her. /#/ especially for they’re now accepting twitch streams and /lig/s.
>>94425504idk how anyone who has watched NL for any length of time can genuinely enjoy watching fauna/nimi. her entire comedy shtick is being vegan and trying to imitate him but getting maybe 10% of the way there.
>>94425885I have a feeling that she just didn't really fit the idol profile. not a great singer, not a great dancer. same with Ame. maybe she wanted to do more singing and dancing and the "disagreement" was that holo was keeping her tucked away. didn't dooby start doing more dancing and released a song cover after leaving holo?
>>94436402>her entire comedy shtick is being veganWTF? You have never watched a single stream or clip of her
>>94436269>Only 5 people /here/ actually dislike Nimiroru>/#/ rumao>>94430631>>94436526>Cover made her pay a graduation fee so high she has to chill merch on her indie debut>She actually wanted to do more idol stuff but Cover wouldn't let herIncredible rrats right here, don't forget to breath boys
That's a smug plushie.
maybe she wants to build a 3rd studio like dooby thats expensive even doki can't afford it
>>94437390as if the debut memberships didn't already cover the cost
Do the girls have to buy their own 3D Home set up or does Cover provide/subsidize it and they have to return it?
>>94438241>thinks Dooby's studio cost $10-20kI understand that's 5 years wages for your country, but it's not a lot of money.
>>94438329They give them rudimentary gear they have to return. If they bought their own shit they keep it though.
>>94434531>Probably one of /vt/‘s most universally hated talents at this point.???She's one of the most defended vtubers on this board, what are you on about?
>>94425504Home theater to watch NL and a live transcribe function for it so she can regurgitate his jokes more effectively
>>94436402Now you know how I feel when I watch Rin Penrose who's entire gimmick is just a vtuber Yahtzee and most vtuber fans are too young to even remember who that is.
>>94425885Another unfortunate truth nuke
>>94425885I'm not a napling and I don't see the problem. She's not a good singer/dancer, so why invest so much time and money into it? Of course she lies about it. What's she supposed to say? The GROWN MEN who watch vtubers have proven countless times they can't handle the truth and can't be mature about something so inoffensive.
>>944255043D model
>>94425885rumao based
>>94425756>She really is not mincing words over how much she fucking hated Hololive??? She hasn't said anything about Hololive outside of "there's a stream (Gura's outfit reveal) I want to watch and you probably do too."
>>94436645okay she does the uu thing too, now fuck off and watch your girl who tries to copy NL
>>94436402I feel like you watch neither
>>94443105ive been around since he was YT only and doing super meat boy let's plays, which means ive been around longer than 95% of his current viewers
>>94425504You already know the answer, if it bothers you then vtubing might not be for you
>>94425504>Upgrade what?She's buying me a penis enlarger.
>>94425885Saplings never gave a fuck about idol shit obviously
>>94443616I don't either. Sure, I like some of the songs and its nice to listen to a woman sing for you, but I couldn't care less about idol groups, pretending to be a virgin for virgins, who the best dancer is,etc. Especially when most of the songs they sing on "stage" are shitty anime OPs/EDs
>>94425504I mean, this is obviously trash bait, but to answer the question: home 3d stuff.
>>94443616Not really, no.
>>94443832but every vtuber does that
>>94425504>Upgrade what?Her lifestyle, clearly. She needs some new clothes and a car.
>>94426079buddy she's been nimi for like 10 days
>>944439968 days, actually
Who keeps biting obvious bait more?Ruffians or Saplings
>>94430671>>94436526>>94439497Noel can't (or, couldn't) sing or dance either but she still does karaoke, covers, originals, lives etc. Same with Coco, when she was in the company. Not being a good singer/dancer isn't an excuse, you can take lessons to be slightly better, and/or you can do it for the fun of it. Sure, being overseas puts some limiters, mostly on lives, but you can still do other stuff. For that to happen, you need to *appreciate your fans* and *want to sing/dance/do idol stuff*. The fact Fauna never did, proves she never wanted to.
>>94444481you mean ATMlings?
>>94443082Yep. Thanks for proving my point.
>>94425504>Where is all this money going?You know where...
>>94443832We're not talking about pippa here phasecuck
>>94425504Maybe at home 3d studio like Dooby. I forgot how much she said it was. But iirc her 3d setup is well north of $10,000
>>94431882Fuck off newfag, you don't even know what a weeb is, and you're damn right I am not a weeb, weebs are retards or underage 90% of the time.
>>94444664Vedal is so fucking lucky man.
>>94448413the man is truly living the dream we all have. robot daughterwives and a harem of like 10 sluts all making him millions. It should have been me!
>>94444540naplings are UNABLE to answer this at all kek roru rumao
>>94425504shut and and pull of your credit card
>>94425885Honestly, this is what bothers me the most, she doesn't even need to lie like this, just like any other talent who is bad at singing and dancing, people don't expect them to do that in the first place and would completely understand why she doesn't do much music, so why? Is it for gaining sympathy? But then anyone who isn't retarded can tell that's a big fat lie, does she really think her fans are that stupid to believe how she wants to be an idol yet her actions says otherwise? It's kinda insulting ngl.
>>94452484It's been 2 hours and the naplings that were in here haven't replied so I'm thinking you might be right>>94453762This. She doesn't have to lie like this, either don't mention idol stuff, or say you were fine with it but didn't actively seek them out. Saying that "I actually did like them but the company wouldn't let me do my stuff!!!" (paraphrased) is so obviously disingenuous and meant to be inflammatory that it's off-putting. She didn't care for it, her fans didn't care for it, just say as much and be done with it.>does she really think her fans are that stupid to believe how she wants to be an idol yet her actions says otherwise?I mean, they (say they) do believe her, and blame Cover for stifling her creativity.>anyone who isn't retarded can tell that's a big fat lieAnon, I...
>>94425714Why'd she leave then?
>>94445314Dooby's setup is 15k at minimum.
>>94425714I hope you don't believe everything a girl online tells you or else you're in trouble.
>>94454375>"I actually did like them but the company wouldn't let me do my stuff!!!" This is true because Fauna wanted to just be a vtuber streamer to yap and play games but upper management expected more out of her. That was probably the disagreement between her and management, and it's just that her parasocial fanbase is dumb af for making up this crazy headcanon that she really wanted to be an idol and management somehow stopped her from doing solike Fauna had her four years in Hololive and she put out one original song, one cover, and about 20 LP episodes of Outer Wilds.Fauna was really at the bottom of the barrel in terms of actively participating in idol work. That she gets to leverage her history to become a successful indie despite that she joined an idol company to essentially do the bare minimum idol work is what the "antis" are probably irritated about.
>>94434531All those hate comments were from one IP.
>>94438433She said the cameras were 19k. Nimi made 40k off memberships already and surely had savings given she hardly ever reinvested into her work. Just accept that you're getting milked, cuckling.
>>94457474By stuff there I meant idol stuff, as in she wanted to do certain idol things that cover wouldn't let her, which is obviously bs but a common claim by saplings.Now, I agree with what you're saying, she likely faced many perms issues like the rest of the Holos, and Cover is to blame for that of course, so this being the reason for her leaving is kinda understandable. Phrasing it the way she did though, was deceitful and frustrating. I don't even care about the debut merch, if she has the money and audience for it then feel free, but throwing mud at your ex-company and coworkers on your way out for no reason was quite disappointing.
>>94430245>Nimi is bad for pretending to be an fledgling indie>Nimi is bad for not trying hard to hide her PL as FaunaAntis aren't even trying anymore.
>>94434822That's literally every holo.
>>94443616truth
>>94459136>which is obviously bs but a common claim by saplings.No it isn't, you people are ridiculous. You just make shit up. Fauna liked doing idol stuff but that didn't mean it was her main focus. She played to her strengths which was gaming and zatsus, and took on the occasional idol work from time to time which was all well within the scope of what Hololive does.>Phrasing it the way she did though, was deceitful and frustrating...throwing mud at your ex-company and coworkers on your way out for no reason was quite disappointing. People heard "disagreements with management" and ran it into all these insane narratives, too bad they couldn't focus on everything else she said. If you watched her you'd know: she loves Hololive, she enjoyed her time there, and she asked people to spread kindness. She left amicably. We don't know the full details of the disagreement with management, but it's been obvious for a while now that the rigid management structure, perms issues and obligation to the brand was getting in the way of what she wanted to do. >coworkersThe ones who showed up to her graduation and cried? The ones still retweeting art of her? The ones still playing League with her behind the scenes? I'm only replying to you because I don't think you're shitposting and actually believe what you're saying. You've been grossly misinformed by catalog rrats and it sucks to see.
>>94455443didn't doki say she talked with her and said she can never afford it?and doki regularly drops 15k+ on one off projectsi would say 50-100k
>>94425504Nimi is the Mister Krabs of vtubing.
>>94462342Yeah, it's 15k at the start.
>>94425504If you watched the stream you're taking out of context you'd know because she literally said what it was.
>>94425885>except!All of 2022 and 2023 when she did those things minus the sololives! Every single thing you posted, like the sololives and concerts, was in 2024, when she had already burned herself out with 16+ concert appearances in her 2023 trips to Japan and her 3D debut that management fucked her on and got taken down
saplings really are insufferable redditors, judging from this thread
>>94430671https://youtu.be/9NAEeb7uPzY?si=410qbb9gU9i2HOQBShe could've been good if she dedicated herself
>>94457474people overstate how much of an "idol" company Hololive is. most of their output is streams.
>>94449689he studied a shit ton of stuff and worked/is still working very hard to be where he's at right now
>>94430671>Ameyou faggot she actually sounds decent when she tries, not to mention her Karaokes are still fun even if she's Noel/Choco Tier.she's tied with Sana being the absolute worst singers in all of hololive, they're so bad that even autotune couldn't save them. the two of them literally ruined the Ochame Kinou EN did back then.
>>94466391dayum
>>94467912she does Heart Of Glass decently well.
>>94465680they keep spamming retarded shit that's not even relevant to the thread in the intent to derail it, when they can't argue like the noel example above they just run away and pretend to not see it
>>94465680well, so is their oshi.
>>94429801I only shit on Fauna's ATMs (the saplings).
>>94472073She also does lovefool, good luck babe, and any other songs around that range very well.
>>94425714Every year people say they want to pick up a hobby, get fit at the gym, learn a language, and countless other things. Whether or not people do it is another question, but many people can develop a sense for when someone is serious or not. You can file a lot of comments like the one you're referring to as don't be surprised when it doesn't materialize.
>>94467793sure, but so does everyone. he just got lightning in a bottle. I'm not begrudgingly him that, it's awesome. He deserves it. you do know the yugioh meme, right?
>>94467912lmfao, Doob is F-tier dogshit at singing and you know it. She had an ear bleed emoji for a reason, I watched her karaoke plenty of times. any rando off the street could mog her on her best day
>>94472082>shit that's not even relevant to the thread in the intent to derail it???>shitpost>people shitpost backAIEEEE YOU CANT DO THAT>the noel example >>94444540Holomem take on as much idol work as they want to. Fauna liked idol stuff, but it wasn't her main focus so she prioritised other things. Why is that so hard for you to get? Or even a problem in the first place?>For that to happen, you need to *appreciate your fans* and *want to sing/dance/do idol stuff*lol nice job inserting "appreciate your fans" arbitrarily there. If Fauna gave saplings everything they wanted then she wouldn't do idol stuff at all -- her audience wanted gaming and zatsu streams and idol shit got in the way of that. Even still, Fauna dabbled in the idol side of things and enjoyed it, she did plenty of karaoke streams too if that's important to you. You have this all or nothing mentality about this shit that doesn't make sense.>Oh you like doing idol shit? Well why didn't you sacrifice everything else to do it?Just because she didn't prioritize it as much as Noel doesn't mean she didn't like it or didn't "appreciate her fans." It's a reach.If you really want to shitpost saplings then focus on the Magni shit. The retarded saplings who care about that kind of thing don't have an answer to that. Everything else is just forced.
>>94425885>>94429390>>94456710If you're going to keep hating on Nimi then I'm going to keep saying Mumei has real autism.
>>94436402that is sorta true but anime girl (NL) is still funnier than 90% of vtubers shticksjust makes me nostalgic for like 2014-era bits
>>94462264>You just make shit up.I saw it being said dozens of times in the many threads shitting on Fauna during her last month. Don't take it out on me, but on your fellow saplings that said it.>People heard "disagreements with management" and ran it into all these insane narrativesThat was part of the issue, the main thing was the lack of a follow-up. Chloe quoted similar issues but clarified it was her personal experience so the reaction was more subdued, Fauna never did hence the whole month was spent on shitposting, and saplings kept calling every other talent (supposed friends of Fauna btw) a bootlicker corpodrone for saying they were fine with how Cover works atm.>the rigid management structure, perms issues and obligation to the brand was getting in the way of what she wanted to do.This is true and understandable, but, as many of us have been saying, she mishandled the announcement.>The ones who showed up to her graduation and cried? The ones still retweeting art of her? The ones still playing League with her behind the scenes?Maybe they made up behind the scenes. Just cause a friend throws me under the bus, doesn't mean we can't work things out later, nor does it mean the friendship is instantly severed (depending on the severity). This doesn't change the fact that she caused them to be in an uncomfortable situation, and, again more importantly, made no effort to help clear things up afterwards.
>>94425885Couldn't you say the same thing about Ame?
>>94480309>but it wasn't her main focus so she prioritised other things. Why is that so hard for you to get? Or even a problem in the first place?Not a problem nor hard to get, but she never said this. We know this is true, and we would have been fine if she said it, but she didn't. She said she liked idol stuff, but disagreement with management made her leave. Never clarified what these disagreements are about (presumably game perms + travelling for concerts, shitposters now say it was for money which may or may not be true), but she didn't say it wasn't for idol stuff, and I saw saplings say that she loved idol stuff but Cover wouldn't let her do them.>lol nice job inserting "appreciate your fans" arbitrarily thereThanks, it was replybait>she did plenty of karaoke streams too if that's important to youIf she did, the karaoke us a miss on my part tho>Just because she didn't prioritize it as much as Noel doesn't mean she didn't like itThen she should *say as much*. >then focus on the Magni shitIt speaks for itself, naplings already have a hard enough time coping with it as us. If she actually collabs with him I might shit on them then
>>94481330Ame did go to Breaking Dimensions & Holofes, & had a mini live.
>every other vtuber out there survives just fine off of their corpo salary or if they're an indie then they're making good money above 3views>but for some reason faunanimi has asmr streaming gaming vtubing equipment worth over $200k and it still isn't enough for herit's always the ones you suspect the most isn't it... i always knew she was a money hungry greedy grifter
>>94481330More importantly he never addresses >>94464269Also kind of pathetic to constantly bump a thread every time it hits page 10 like going from>>94472199>>94476992
>>94481682The SEAmonkey mind simply cannot comprehend the motivations of a successful American
>>94481330Ame went to breaking dimensions and holofes and unlike Fauna she actually has more originals+covers than all flowglow members.
>>94481281So the issue boils down entirely to the view that her announcement was mishandled and misinterpretations of that announcement by a small section of people /here/ and on reddit/twitter weren't cleared up. I understand that point of view and I don't think you're necessarily in the wrong for feeling that way.I also don't think it's fair to just dismiss you by saying people would have looked for a yab regardless of how she worded it or acted, even if I believe that to be true. I can't really know for sure after all.What I can refer you to is this,https://youtu.be/pHeooYzdsSg?t=60 >I used to want to become a nursery or kindergarten teacher, so I studied an obtained all the qualifications.>There is one thing I learned during that time that I am applying to my livestreams...>When streaming, sometimes I encounter comments like>"You seem clueless, don't you learn anything?">There a sometimes when people leave comments like yakuza>But instead of responding seriously, right?>Instead of dealing with scary or unpleasant comments>I will say "thank you for all that you do for me" to kind people who don't engage in that>Like complimenting them for what they're doing well>I'm applying that approach to everyone>It's important for creating an enjoyable streamPR is always a gamble and hindsight is 20/20. Do you legitimise the small group of people who have misinterpreted, or do you focus on the majority of people who understood your intentions and are engaging with you positively? It's not an easy decision and it even backfired for the holomem who were accused of being "bootlickers" for trying to clarify. You know who did a great job of handling it? Kiara. She essentially explained that management isn't a monolith and that every talent has their own priorities, issues and experiences. For Fauna, management stopped being worth the trouble, but that's not necessarily an indictment of Cover and Hololive as a whole nor was her announcement intended to be. To most people this was obvious, especially people who actually watch streams lol, but for some it wasn't and for some it was an opportunity to dramafag. The last thing they wanted to do was make Fauna's graduation month a miserable time addressing a controversy that took on a life of its own and blew wildly out of proportion, especially when Fauna has never been one to engage in drama or overshare things about her personal life or even talk about her problems with management. In hindsight, maybe she should have said something, or maybe that just would have made things worse. Either way, deciding to focus on the positive and keep things professional was the choice she made and I and many others think it was the right one.
>>94482714I appreciate the thorough response anon, I can also empathise with her in the clip because my (jp) oshi has said something similar before. I also generally like(d) Fauna, she was entertaining and had good game choices, and I had watched her occasionally. But the fact remains that I was offput by the announcement. It shouldn't have been Kiara's job to clarify it the way she did, but Fauna's. The fact she didn't makes me think there was intent hidden in her phrasing, which is what annoyed me. Maybe it's not obvious to saplings, and shitposters will call people like me corpo drones, but I don't like when (ex-)talents hurt Cover's reputation, not because I love Cover, but because I love my oshi, and the other talents I like, that work at Cover. Hurting Cover hurts my oshi, and that is frustrating. You may think the whole thing isn't a big deal, but it's a big deal to the people left behind. This includes the remaining talents, but also the fans of those talents. That's why the (perceived) indifference to the aftereffects of the announcement hurt, because it hurt our image of Fauna, but it also affects our oshis (even if for some people that oshi us the company itself).It's why Gura squandering her potential, Calli hanging out with trash taste, and other controversies over the year are called out, partially because people that like those talents dislike these action, and partially because tourists, drama, and dramatourists flood the other talents in the company. Similarly, it's why people shat on Cover for Aqua's departure and (to a lesser extent) Chloes', Mel's, and Ame's, because it means Cover is mishandling their internal administration. The fact that this type of reaction was muted in regards to Fauna's graduation should raise eyebrows. The Holobox is an ecosystem, so disruptions in it affect everyone to some degree, and just like irl, we want to avoid an ecosystem collapse, so we call out both bad handling from Cover and from talents, that endanger it.
>>94436402NL is a nazi, Nimi isn't.
>>94425504man holos gotta be paid a pittance relatively to their views if they are this poor after leaving hololive
>>94482714Let's also not forget that this announcement would have been something Cover signed off on. They're not just gonna let a talent make a graduation announcement by saying whatever - they would have wanted to check over what she's going to say, and they approved the message.If your own employer doesn't think you are throwing them under the bus, I don't know what gives the retards here a right to think that.>Do you legitimise the small group of people who have misinterpreted, or do you focus on the majority of people who understood your intentions and are engaging with you positively?This hits the nail on the head because the schizos here rarely get an insight into how "normal" people think because nobody here is normal. 90% of people, probably more, didn't have any problem with it and you're not obligated to cater to the tiny minority who wilfully misinterpret everything you say.
>>94481281>your fellow saplings that said it>and saplings kept calling every other talent (supposed friends of Fauna btw) a bootlicker corpodrone for saying they were fine with how Cover works atm.You're bad faith and wall-of-texting doesn't change that.>Chloe quoted similar issues but clarified it was her personal experienceYou're not making any sense again. How can a disagreement with management not be Fauna's personal experience?>Maybe they made up behind the scenes. >a friend throws me under the busCompletely fabricated scenario using language to create a villain in this story>>94483414>makes me think there was intent hidden in her phrasingThis is a non-statement that exists solely to insinuate darker intent without having to elaborate at all.>people shat on Cover for Aqua's departure and (to a lesser extent) Chloes', Mel's, and Ame's, because it means Cover is mishandling their internal administration. The fact that this type of reaction was muted in regards to Fauna's graduation should raise eyebrows. You're contradicting yourself. Did people shit on Cover, thus creating the "inconvenience" you pinned on saplings, or was the reaction muted because Fauna "raised some eyebrows"
>>94482714You gave someone arguing in bad faith a way more honest reply than they deserved. Their followup post should make it clear that they will find some way, any way, to make Fauna "bad" and try to ruin your own image of her at the same time.>>94483584>If your own employer doesn't think you are throwing them under the bus, I don't know what gives the retards here a right to think thatSchizophrenia and autism.
>>94481281No, every talent was a corpodrone because they suddenly turned on all their complains and read from the same script defending the management
>>94425714Is no one in this thread gonna mention Shiori who explicitly said that idol stuff is not a priority for her (and also can't sing well at all) yet has released more covers in less than a year and a half than Fauna ever did?
>>94425568Fpbp
>>94484521>You're bad faith and wall-of-texting doesn't change that.I'm arguing in perfectly good faith anon, I'm just telling you what other (alleged) saplings kept saying in Fauna's defence.>How can a disagreement with management not be Fauna's personal experience?She needs to clarify it is, otherwise people (fans of her, fans of other talents, Holoantis, idolantis, Vtuberantis) can and will misinterpret it to mean a generalised problem within Hololive. Chloe clarified it, Aqua too, and Kiara did it for Fauna even though she shouldn't have had to.>Completely fabricated scenario using language to create a villain in this storyIt's a possibility. The other possibility is they indeed weren't bothered by what she said, or even agreed, so they didn't even talk about it. We don't know what happens bts so we won't know until someone involved tells us what happened (don't see when/why they would). But I find it hard to believe they didn't talk about it at all, especially since they also had to run damage control to their own fans after her announcement. They had a month, plenty of time to figure things out.>This is a non-statement that exists solely to insinuate darker intent without having to elaborate at all.Not only is it a perfectly viable interpretation of her announcement, but I also elaborated on the hidden intent in previous posts, ie that she did it to hurt the company (for some reason). To further explain, not onlt has she watched online personalities for years, she's not a new creator herself, she's witnessed others' graduation announcements, even ones very similar to her just the past few months, so she should have known that phrasing is key. To address this >>94483584 as well, either Cover didn't check her announcement (unlikely), or whoever did, didn't realise how it could come off. If 90% of people didn't have a problem with it, we wouldn't need the whole branch to run damage control. Even well-phrased announcements such as the JP ones caused a lot of stir, but, leading to the next point, the blame was shifted to Cover.>Did people shit on Cover, thus creating the "inconvenience" you pinned on saplings, or was the reaction muted because Fauna "raised some eyebrows"It's inconvenient to shit on Cover senselessly. If there are problems that need to be addressed, shitting on Cover is justified, because if these problems are left to fester, they could cause greater damage to the talents we care about down the road, compared to the temporary reputational damage shitting on them would cause. With Aqua, although she said it was a personal issue, she said that she had tried for a while to find a solution but eventually had to give up, and other talents, close friends of hers, corroborated that. That led both both fans of Aqua and other Holofans to blame Cover for not doing enough to keep Aqua.For Chloe, again she clarified it was a personal issue with her taking up too much work, but her explanation led her fans and other Holofans to blame Cover for overworking talents by assigning them too much work and/or not having good enough managers that can reduce that workload, since that was again corroborate by other JP talents. Ame had her own burnout issues over the years, partly due to the fact she endeup up having to setup and carry the EN branch when it was still young, so her frustrations would have been understandable, and something Holofans have been blaming Cover for years for it.Fauna's case should have been similar to Chloe's, just copy her announcement to an extent. But her wording was poor, and she cannot play the "I like idol stuff" because as explained earlier, she barely did them. As a result, while her fans blamed Cover, Holofans, who should have been posed to blame Cover again following the previous 3 announcements, didn't. Instead, saplings (and antis that sensed blood in the water) attacked Cover for the same reasons as Chloe (too much idol stuff), but then switched to attacking the other EN talents when they didn't corroborate her story, hence Holofans now defended Cover because their oshis said things are actually good. This was the muted response, and the "raised eyebrows" should be of saplings. Since Holofans shat on Cover for the previous announcements but not in Fauna's case, should have raised the sapling's eyebrows, and make them think that either Fauna isn't telling the truth, or at the very least that the way she presented things was wrong. Of course, that's their oshi so they'll get defensive about doing that (I don't blame them for it), hence the whole fanbase war.
>>94425885If hololive want all the criterias they would pick a fucking singer/entertainer you dumb faggot
>>94485497You don't have to write that long just to tell everyone you're a holo dickrider
>>94481932she already reached maximum potential for an indie, if she wants to go higher, she has to join a corp or become one (hiring a dedicated professional team)
>>94485497Not gonna lie you jumped the shark with this one.
>>94465680It doesn't help that they write exactly like redditors as well. Reddit spacing and all.
>>94485497>I'm just telling you [made up claim]/vt/ catalog bait threads a sapling does not make.>She needs to clarifyThe clarification is inherent to the statement. Kiara and the others were responding first and foremost for their own fans, as they stated, who were worried about two back-to-back graduations of seemingly stable members. You need to prove they were "clarifying" because "saplings" were attacking them.>Not only is it [projection], but I also elaborated on the hidden intent in previous posts, ie that she [assumption with no basis]Even you have to admit this is weak.>To address this >> 94483584 as well, either Cover didn't check her announcement (unlikely), or [headcanon that gives no charity to Fauna but excessive charity to Cover]>If [asspulled number], we [factually false statement]This post is 90% nothing.>[massive wall of text that makes up so much it's not even worth quoting everything]I hope to high heaven you're using ChatGPT to write these.[citation needed]>while her fans blamed Cover, Holofans didn't>switched to attacking the other EN talents>they didn't corroborate her story>Holofans now defended Cover>their oshis said things are actually good [universally]>Holofans shat on Cover for the previous announcements[giga fucking citation needed]>hence the whole fanbase war
>>94485497>she said that she had tried for a while to find a solution but eventually had to give up, and other talents, close friends of hers, corroborated that.So did Fauna you do realize. And her close friends corroborated that as well.
>>94425714don't trust women
>>94487200sick page 10 bump bro, buffering for your next essay?
>>94487240important threads like these are worth saving
>>94487290Why did you post your microdick
>>94486909>You need to prove they were "clarifying" because "saplings" were attacking them.It's based on posts on twitter and here, don't use reddit or check discord for this so not sure if similar things happened there>projectionYou don't know what that word means>no basisI gave my basis for it, you seem to disagree yet give no counter>excessive charity to CoverI'm blaming Cover for not checking the announcement properly, learn to read. Not the first or last time Cover fucks up PR statements>asspulled numberIt's a quoted number from >>94483584, read the posts properly, I'm using that number at face value, even if made-up>factually false statementIf you're either too new or too underinforrmed to have any idea how people reacted to the previous announcements don't butt in, same for your next point. >[universally]Never said this, suddenly you can (mis)understand hidden intents now?>giga fucking citation neededMaybe engage with the fanbase(s) you are talking about. You seem to not be aware of anything that has been going on, why are you even responding? >>94487015Not to the extent JP talents backed up the JP graduates. Some fans choose to blame the en talents for covering up for Cover, some (including myself) choose to blame Fauna for not doing/saying enough to warrant supporting her over Cover for her decision
>>94487711ngl every post you make just makes your position sound weaker and more schizo
>>94485038Actually a really good point. Shiori deserves more love, honestly.
holy shit naplings did you rape this poorfags mother? never seen anyone lose and mindbreak like thisnaplings must be the most powerful fanbase
>>94487711>Maybe engage with the fanbase(s) you are talking aboutYou don't even live in reality. Your whole argument revolves around a fanbase war between "Holofans" and "saplings" that doesn't exist, and a false dichotomy that someone must either "choose to blame the en talents" or "choose to blame Fauna" when this entire drama is fabricated to begin with. There's nothing to blame anyone for because nobody did anything wrong.
>>94488280Not your friend.
>>94488280Fauna has been an anti magnet since her inception for arcane but probably retarded reasons.
>>94488280Napchads have had this monkey dancing to their tune for years and he doesn't even know he's their lolcow.It's actually quite sad how much they won
>>94445377>and you're damn right I am not a weebposting this on a japanese culture board is wild
>>94438573She's the most defended because she's the most hated dum dum.
>>94438573>She's one of the most defended vtubers on this board, what are you on about?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astroturfing
>>94492039>future fun content!Is she going to livestream it then?
>>94480404I'm sure she has some form of real autism
>>94487240>>94481930only absolute retards complain about "page 10 bumps".
>>94425885This post truly works as the "Break Glass in case of cocky Naplings" kind of response.Best of all, its extremely effective, bravo.
>>94495100yes, it is pointless to complain, but every time I see one I stop and make a wish that whoever bumped the thread would have some kind of tragic accident.
>>94488556It has been pretty funny watching him shit his pants for this long.
>>94425504THESE PREORDERS JUST COME UP, WHENEVER THEY WANT, AUTOMATICALLY SAYING "FUCK YOU, WE'RE TAKING YOU MONEY FOR THE NEXT 30 MINUTES ONLY". LOOK AT THIS SHIT I AM FUCKING GETTING PAID FRIDAY YOU COCKSUCKER; I'M DOING IMPORTANT SHIT. WHY DO YOU NEED TO GET UPGRADES?! WHAT UPGRADES?! YOU WANT TO HIDE SPYCAMS IN YOUR PLUSH, SO THE NSA (Nimi Surveillance Agency) CAN KEEP WATCHING WHAT I'M DOING?! LOOKING AT MY FUCKING DICK PICS AND WATCHING ME JACK OFF?! SPYIN' ON ME?! FAUNA!! YOU FUCKING NIMIGGER!! I'M A RACIIIIST! YOU MADE ME A RAAACISSSST!
>>94489031As I said, newfags.Weeb != otaku. Do a flip back to Twitter, child.I post on /jp/ regularly, still didn't stop me from telling weebs to fuck off.https://warosu.org/jp/?task=search2&ghost=false&search_text=fuck+off+weeb&search_ord=oldYou will never be Japanese.
>>94496643>You will never be Japanese.yes I will
