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Um....Gura has been removed from the Tokyo ambassador website.
https://tokyotokyo.jp/ja/action/ambassador/

It's basically confirmed....
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ok, what's happening at niji this time
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sus
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>>99159264
Finally, now biboo can take the spot.
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>>99159264
"Gura" never happened, anon...
You need to wake up...
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>>99159264
You know this all could’ve been resolved if gura just played games.
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>>99159264
Who? Stop baiting with fake vtubers
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Towa baby?
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What the hell is a gura?
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>>99159264
2 more weeks for sure this time!!!!!!
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>>99159479
a lazy grifter
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>>99159264
Even cover has to realize that they can't keep milking a corpse
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>>99159553
Should I update the Urban dictionary? I don't see that slang there.
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>>99159264
BASED
fuck gura
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>>99159264
Gura did say that she will back out some projects in her membership stream so this is one of them

That or she is terminated today and we will expect an announcement tomorrow, which is super unlikely but not impossible
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>>99159264
Can I ask why EN girls were Tokyo ambassadors in the first place? Why isn't it Pekora along with Miko?
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>>99159264
>>99159587
>>99159585
>>99159578
>>99159553
>>99159479
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9v-33jcEDk4
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>>99159264
they won’t believe it until it actually happens
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>>99159620
Why would Japanese girls be advertising Japanese tourism to Japanese people? The whole point is getting our fat American dollars.
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Unbelievable breaking news with shocking implications! Could it be that Gawr Gura... isn't very active?
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>>99159661
Ok then why is Miko there?
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>>99159746
She's a famous racist
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>>99159264
they had to make room for mori's scythe.
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>>99159264
Old news. First sign of Gura backing out is back in October 2024 when the official tokyo account only promoted Miko and Calli shirt

Search "tocho_tenbou + <member fullname>" on Twitter and there is no tweet about gawrgura

https://x.com/tocho_tenbou/status/1851874294353007061

https://x.com/tocho_tenbou/status/1871420612234653873
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>>99159264
Where will all the chumpedos go once she quit or fired
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>>99159264
Grim
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January 25, 2025 -- She is there
https://web.archive.org/web/20250125123336/https://tokyotokyo.jp/ja/action/ambassador/

April 11, 2025 -- she is gone
https://web.archive.org/web/20250411120218/https://tokyotokyo.jp/ja/action/ambassador/


They deliberately updated the graphic to remove her
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>>99159850
Reaper
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>>99159843
pretty sure they've moved onto Bijou. she even has the same annoying no manners underaged fanbase as her
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>>99159264
IT'S OVER
>IT'S OVER
IT'S OVER
>IT'S OVER
IT'S OVER
>IT'S OVER
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>>99159843
They'll be fine, they don't even notice she's gone.
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>>99159852
See >>99159834
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>>99159264
OH NO NO NO NO
but seriously even if she were to graduate soon (which she probably won't), can anyone honestly say they really care at this point?
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>>99159852
>deliberately
bruh, the only way to do it is to change the picture...
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>>99159264
At this point she should consider assisted graduation
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Makes sense when she's back to streaming full time soon it's better to leave sponsorships to other members
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>>99160030
they should care because this board will be unusable if it happens
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>>99160197
>when she's back to streaming full time soon
KEKAROOOO
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>>99160266
>implying this board is ever usable
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>>99160197
>back to streaming full time
lmao
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>>99160376
>>99160288
She is returning because why else would she do a member stream
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>>99159301
they got modded by the ex-nijis yesterday
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>>99159264
>every EN that doesn't stream is graduating
am I supposed to be sad about that? I suppose the catalog becoming unusable for a few weeks from all the shitposters and sisters will be annoying but I don't see the big deal otherwise.
frankly I've wanted gura gone for years just because the incessant whining about her is annoying and the branch has long since moved on.
>>99159661
>our fat American dollars
not for much longer kek.
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>>99160266
and nothing of value will be lost
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>>99159264
>>99159341
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>>99160197
>full time
copebud....
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>>99160435
SEA cunny > sea cunny
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Sure is a lot of random Holo seethe.
Did one of the phase whores do some cuck shit again?
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>>99159264
Owarida, vtubeer as we know it is dead now.
It's all trash now
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>>99160197
>she's back to streaming full time soon
Lol
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>>99160496
SEA has the best women, it is known.
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>>99159264
Cover is learning (after getting heavily embarrassed many times recently) that they shouldn't just be promoting their "popular" talents but talents who actually have long-term goals that coincide with wanting Cover to do well. Gura can't stab them in the back one day when she has a woman moment if they have nothing based around her that she can upend.
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>>99160428
>not for much longer kek.
Cover is so screwed if the yen actually persists in strengthening against the dollar, it'd make EN merch and such much less profitable for them from a home field perspective.
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>Miko
>Mori
Pink clique?
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>>99159264
Honestly? Eh. She's basically retired at this point. Anyone who is still surprised by it is delusional.
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>>99160646
Anon, Trumps removal of the de mininis tax exemption pretty much means that American holo fans will be importing far less from Japan.
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>>99160632
Cover is not learning, it is regressing.
That's why they're losing a lot of talents recently.
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>>99159843
Some of them became Pebbles hence the toxic nature of the pebbles sometimes
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>>99160839
Keep seething Fauna that you had a woman moment and quit your job
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>>99160417
Because it's not her first time disppearing for months and reappearing with a members only stream.
It's been like this for years at this point.
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>>99160796
Alas, poor Cover. I knew them, anonymous.
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>>99159264
yeah she's leaving hololive
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>>99160986
Why would Fauna seethe? She's winning.
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>>99161117
By not getting 95% of the money as a indie that she did in Cover
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>>99160986
the only one who is seething is Ame...
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>>99161170
??? all her merch is sold out too without cover’s cuts
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>>99161218
Having a small amount of stuff don't mean there is a lot of people buying
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>>99159341
Finally an actually successful Gura killer.
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>>99161170
She's earning far more without Cover taking their cut.
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>>99159587
>Gura did say that she will back out some projects in her membership stream so this is one of them
I missed that part of the stream. When did she say that?
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>>99161274
Gura was always the Gura killer
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>>99159650
Did you guys forget what happened the last time you screeched two more weeks?
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>>99161261
keep coping chumcuck
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>>99160010
It's literally not old news. People have been finding various forms of cope for Gura not being part of promotions but her getting outright removed from something she had been a part of for a long time is new.
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>>99161356
perfect i want it to happen again and see all the seethe
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>>99160646
nah, cover is hardly reliant on america. even the EN branch as a whole isn't reliant on america. the bigger concerns would be the current trade war sinking all the sea nations and taiwan economies, en and cover can survive just fine with a heavily reduced american consumerbase but not a heavily reduced taiwan and sea base at the same time.
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>>99159650
tumorweeks comes for everyone....
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>>99161356
based flips saving vtubing
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>>99161373
Give "proof"
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>>99161302
Nta, but in the one where she said that management are always watching and the whole brand risk thing, iirc.
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>>99161302
The one she did in December, not the recent one
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>>99161469
Proof of what? The proof of the website getting updated to remove Gura is right there.
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>>99161356
Why would anyone willingly commission this shit
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>>99161427
>the current trade war sinking all the sea nations
Wtf I fucking love Trump now?
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Good HoloEN was a mistake it flooded the fandom with fucking EoP faggots and tourists. They should graduate the entire branch immediately and just keep the twins and make em stream in jp all the time
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>>99159883
>pretty sure they've moved onto Bijou
>>99160929
>Some of them became Pebbles
Good joke, lol. At most, like 5% went over.
>she even has the same annoying no manners underaged fanbase as her
I'm pretty sure Guras demographic is like 10 years older than Biboos on average.
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>>99161576
This but unironically
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>>99161552
It's a machine "drawing".
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>>99161576
no one watches jp though
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>>99159264
>>99159341
>>99161576
Lots of seething east only people in these threads. Pretty sure /jp/ exist for you schizos
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>>99159264
bruhs...
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>>99161491
>>99161531
Oh nice catch, it was a really brief comment, but it actually explains a lot.
https://www.youtube.com/live/8K6GdmZe_1g?si=nj-7drRJ2gpL80gl&t=5652
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>>99161576
It's been 5 years anon, and EOPs were already flooding in well before September 2020 anyway
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>>99161838
lmao nobody streams in EN tho
also pekora’s fans solo’s entire EN branch easily
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>>99161373
>6 months ago
>not old news
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>>99161695
>he doesn't actually know
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>>99162172
The website update wasn't 6 months ago, retard.
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>>99159264
What's confirmed?
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>>99162382
It was at some point in the last two months and a half, who knows when.
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>>99160435
Biboo will never be gura. Gura has a special charm about her that makes everyone gravitate towards her as a holo talent she never had to try hard to where she is because she has the it factor. Biboo doesn't have it she's a try hard who's doing her very best to be senzawa light. All the cringe stuff was funny at first bit once it becomes a normal occurrence then it loses the humor is just annoying. I miss when she was the dancing baby not this edgy cringe lord for people who will never be Japanese
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>>99162594
And it was only pointed out today which makes it not old news because of what I just told you.
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>>99160428
>our
1) You're not American. Not even close.
2) You should have been sad that all the good ENs weren't streaming anymore in the first place.
3) It's Cover you should want gone, not Gura.
>>99160596
SEA doesn't have women, it has grubs.
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>>99162772
It is technically old news because it didn't happen recently, but if you wanna be that pedantic then I guess you have a point.
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>>99162825
You're the one being pedantic when you have to say "It is technically".
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It's been confirmed since Ame left. But since it's taken so long, it's given me enough time to adjust to being full-time holoan after it happens.
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>>99162719
Plus Bijou's voice is like a shrill tin can
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>>99162780
Ollie my type of woman you don't know.. see I have a tight fetish I want her to sit her pussy on my mouth and send me to after life. Best way to go anon you don't know what you're missing.
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>>99160428
You should stay in your general, holobrony. Your kind isn't welcome anywhere else on the board.
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>>99162937
Her voice doesn't annoy me much is her mannerism that does. Like I said sometimes beebs has her organic cringe moments where is funny and a welcomed sight to see but for the most part now the act feels forced. I'm not taking anything away from beebs because she's awesome and entertaining on her way but is just the try harding that's killed my interest in her content. People like it and that's fine is just the direction she went isn't for me. So I just watch others chuubas who are streaming something I'm interested on. The mh spam for example has filtered the fuck out of me. I like mon hun but the shills streams are exhausting.
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>>99162780
>Good EN
>Gura
RORU. RUMAO even. No one is holding a gun to her head forcing her not to stream, chumkek. She along with Ame, fauna, and mumei were just lazy whores all along like we've been saying for years.
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>>99159301
Aster has been doomposting on his private alt and saying how he wishes his genmates were dead
2 more planned graduations from JP side
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>>99163541
Proof next thread right sis?
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>>99163480
They're also human being with real life responsibilities. You are just unemployed and never held a job or responsibilities in your life. These women aren't robots they also have needs and shit they have to do at side giving you incel fap content
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>>99163772
Fuck off, tranny. Women exist to serve ME specifically.
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>>99162719
>Gura has a special charm about her that makes everyone gravitate towards her
not really....
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>>99163901
>immediately thinks about men
I think you need to come out the closet. And also find a job and responsibilities.
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>>99163901
alas, no women will ever give you the time of day
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>>99163988
She's the only chuuba in en that does not need to be botted so yes lm right and you can seethe more.
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>>99161552
Are you retarded?
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>>99164076
>youtube kidz algo rider is not botted
Next you saymminecrafts ection isn't botted.
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>>99162998
trust me if ollie sits on you, you will not surivive all 446 pounds of her brown meat
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She was also replaced by Mori in this thing.
Anything else she's been pulled out of recently?
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>>99164589
The hololive card game, though you'd think that's a thing she'd not pull out of
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>>99164157
Yes someone who rarely stream is still 90% more popular than the rest and that hurts your ego. Algorithm talk is irrelevant it would be relevant if she was shilling soulless shit everyday like the rest does. And unironically you are all gura antis. When gura was doing soulless shit like shill streams all of you fags used to hate on her but advent does it and all you faggots are now silent. Gura stream you bitch about her she doesn't stream you still bitch about her that's called anti behavior
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>>99164389
That's the goal didn't I made it clear I want her to send to the afterlife anon..
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>>99163121
holy esl. your english is so shit you couldn't even understand a post shitting on gura.
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>>99164643
uh oh melty, it must be shocking to know that not everyone likes her.
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>>99164708
Nice self report, Saar…
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>>99159843
Nowhere, the entirety of vtubing as a career will crater and indies will be the first ones to die off
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>>99164836
>melty
Where? Is anybody having a meltdown over a shark anime girl having to do less work for money is you lol. You can't admit to yourself that advent failed as a gen. All of them are botted to high hell they are even aware of it but go ahead keep sniffing on that bottled fart you get your copium from.
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Things like this scare me somewhat
I complained about Sana's horoscope streams getting removed out of nowhere, then she announces her graduation the following day
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>>99164589
Seems weird for her to pull out of something where she doesn't actually have to do anything.
Definitely smells like a graduation.
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>>99165064
>gets baited over some faggot telling him hes having a meltdown
>make a 5 page essay explaning why no one is having a meltdown why having a meltdown
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>>99161695
Biboos age demographic is full of 35+ oji who treat her as a little sister or daughter who they want to fuck.
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>>99165238
isnt that the same as gura’s? middle aged men who is simping for a middle aged woman larping as a child?
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>>99165064
>nOOoO gura is the BEsT, AdVENT FailEDD
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>>99165293
Gurus audience didn't start as middle aged men, biboos did.
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>>99165203
>no u
Everytime. Just close this tab lol your ego obviously has not allowed you to see past your hatred towards gura. When advent stops doing the same type of shill stream you people gave shit to gura for then we can revisit this dick measurement contest that you already lost.
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>>99159264
>>99164589
It's (C)over
Holowari da
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>>99165393
Exactly gura base were zoomers and millennials biboo is the one that attracted all the pedos because she's Thai
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>>99162772
Most retarded user itt. Your competition was fierce but you pulled out ahead. Congratulations
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>>99165561
But you're the retard.
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>>99165132
She bought the "Gawr Gura" IP
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>>99165132
she demanded to be removed after she saw Biboo was in it as well
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>>99165763
She's tired of biboo. Biboo is a rated G senzawa rip off. If biboo was cussing she'd be exactly that, a senzawa clone.
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>>99165617
>I'm retarded
>You're retarded
WE ARE
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>>99159264
anon... who's gura
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ja-kja6UYbo
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>>99166028
Retarded only retards with severe mental illnesses browses 4chan like you and me.
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>>99166214
I'm afraid that just isn't true. People like me also browse this website for some god damn reason.
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>>99159264
Does this mean she loses her diplomatic immunity?
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Discovering a dead body is old news because the person died before they were found.
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>>99161356
damn that nigga devious, he's giving everyone free drama and no one is grateful
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>>99166288
Mental illness that's your reason is OK. The first step toward recovering is to recognize and admit your flaws.
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>>99161170
>she left because she is greedy
>but she is getting only 5% of Holo money
WHICH ONE IS THAT IN THE END
STOP CONFUSING ME
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>>99166288
>for some god damn reason
Yeah, you're a mentally ill retard. But it's okay, you're among friends
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>>99166825
based, they all hate Whorena the grifter
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>>99166585
>>99166868
Mental illness, sure, but definitely not retardation.
Nostalgia plays a pretty large part, too. I got here 19 years ago but didn't use the site very often between 2014 and 2019.
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Graduation queue is real
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>>99160839
>recently
They lost them years ago. We've literally watched the changes in real time for generations now.
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>>99167416
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>>99164708
How about you try typing like a human being before trying to call someone else ESL, fag? I guess you don't understand what I'm trying to say to you because you're an Advent SEAgroid. Stick to your fucking general, holobrony, because if the board hasn't already overwhelmingly turned against Hololive, it certainly will after Gura graduates.
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>>99159341
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>>99159264
Seeing herself getting replaced by Henya was too much for her.
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die chumcucks
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Myth is healing
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><>
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>>99168577
Has your bitch stopped botting yet?
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>>99170686
Has your bitch started streaming yet?
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The real question is why is it taking her so damn long to leave if she's been "showing signs" for like 2 years now
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>>99162025
Makes sense. If taking on less brand responsibility makes her happy, then that’s cool. I think the people who like her didn’t really care about that anyway.
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ok so what happens now (I don't watch vtubers)
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>>99171223
2 years long graduation queue
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>>99159301
>>99160420
>>99163541
Crazy how there’s barely a good answer for this anymore. There’s just objectively more drama in Hololive than there is in Niji nowadays.
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>>99171223
Fauna gave her ease of mind by holding onto 100% of her former fanbase going indie
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>>99159264
Oh wow the one who doesn't stream or promote tourism gets taken OFF the ambassador website? This is shocking to only SEA
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>>99173538
If she wants to leave, literally the only reason could possibly be because she hates her fanbase and doesn't want them to follow her.
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>>99173538
fauna had a regular timeslot that no one else was in. it was an easy move.
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>>99174901
And who do you think is going to steal Gura's audience, exactly? Even if she has competition in the timeslot, if she's live people will be watching her instead of the second rate tubers.
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>>99174952
she won't stream regularly. it'll be a dooby situation at best.
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>>99175064
It's already a dooby situation and Gura still gets 20k viewers a stream
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>>99174952
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>>99162780
>You should have been sad that all the good ENs weren't streaming anymore in the first place.
>all the good ENs
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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>>99159264
i held out hope but it's a gonner
company went to shit.
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>has a weekly radio show and upcoming collab cafe coming up
>sHe HaTeS hEr FaNs
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If I'm any of the more popular EN vtubers at Holo, I'm looking at Nimi and thinking I could probably keep 90% of my audience without having to give a majority of the revenue I bring in to a corporation AND getting more freedom to do what I want at the same time. Not to mention never having to think about shit like perms ever again.
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>>99175920
>Entertainer who doesn't work
>It's over, the company is to blame
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>>99176000
>I could probably keep 90% of my audience
Why would Gura of all people want to keep 90% of her audience
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>>99166825
when I pointed out how it was suspicious that mumei didnt add to that I was called a sapling
corpo worshippers belong on a cross
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>>99176000
You have to stream to keep an audience
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>>99176000
That's funny because Nimi expected to lose majority of her fanbase.
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>>99176095
If an entertainment company can't manage menhera talents then what are they even good for? Counting money while everything is working out on its own somehow?
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>>99176463
>if they force a talent who clearly doesn't want to stream, they are a black company
>if they don't force her, they are a black company
There is no winning with you, faggots
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lol bijou is shit the one who will actually replace gura will be gigi.
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>>99176757
>the only options are a complete lack of anything resembling a productive output or slavery
You are the vantablack one, nigga.
I'm asking again, what do half a thousand Cover employees receive their salaries for if there isn't a single one among them who can make talents want to stream at least once a week? Who does this company do?
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Finally Gura will be able to do twitch ractslop like she has always wanted to do
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>>99177032
I do agree that Cover is quite top-heavy, but exactly what they could do to make then want to stream, specially since we are talking about Gura here? Maybe you'd have a point if it was Ame having to have her VR streams with unofficial models having to be approved, but Gura?
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>>99171223
its passive income
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>>99176329
She must have really hated working there if she was willing to take what she expected to be a huge hit to her audience just to escape.
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>>99177457
Fauna very (in)famously hated having to constantly travel to Japan for 3D and would often miss out on concerts or quite literally phone-in her her performances so she could stay at home.
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>>99176463
>Hire mentally ill loser woman
>Oh no, she's mentally ill, who could have predicted
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>>99159301
Nothing, and it's great. Take care of your own burning house, holofags.
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>>99175998
>weekly anything from Gura
dyrbi
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>>99159746
She's got the pass privileges.
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>>99168110
I can't believe he was in Niji's pocket all along
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>>99159264
she's slowly disappearing everywhere
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>>99171223
She's trying to see how much longer she can milk it.
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>>99173379
I mean yeah because it was never sisters, it was Phase folks from a certain region that tried to play off fans of both companies off each other, and because every single person on this board (including myself) is either or both a schizo and retard they fell for it.
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Winding down her projects and preparing to leave. Based.
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>>99181170
Is that certain region Latin America?
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>>99181457
Nope another continent across the ocean, I'm only being coy about mentioning it because they start spamming reports these days for rule 2 if you even mention them and mods will ban you for it.
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>>99171223
>Hate your job
>Want to quit
>But also you get paid doing literally nothing
>Stay long enough and do the bare minimum until you have a nice cushion of money to relax on
>Once you feel safe to go without an income for a while, submit your 2 weeks
That's it.
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>>99181713
/pcg/ is mainly Latam/Euro. They don't have SEA, that's NijiEN
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>>99163541
but that's what twisty's been doing not aster
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>>99182386
I actually don't think it's /pcg/ itself I think it's a bunch of people that have either never participated or bullied out of there, I suspect phase fans in numbers that got butthurt they got bullied for small numbers but that's my schizo side acting up at this point and I have no proof beyond instinct.
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>>99177644
She hated it because snail was an old ass cat and was on it's last cat years. You're sea I know you breed cats to eat them and you will never comprehend the bond and the love she had for her cat. Is why she hated being away for so long.
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>>99159264
What's her endgame?
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>>99159843
a bunch of them say they'll just no nothing and not move on when she leaves. considering how obnoxiously clingy they are that's basically fine imo. the kinds of people who are so slavishly devoted to someone who gives them basically nothing for 3 years straight are going to be the most parasocial and obnoxious of people possible and they already refuse to acknowledge other chuubas anyway.
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>>99182386
That's not true at all, look at what happened in /bant/ when this board got wiped on april fools
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>>99160266
for like a couple days or weeks maybe but literally all the commotion is people saying it's the end of hololive etc when in reality, gura hasn't mattered at all for EN or holo in general for years already. it's a symbolic loss but simply making real one that's already been apparent for a long ass time. she has gotten away with unbelievable favoritism it seems and was fine with that but I am guessing what's going on is the same syndrome where a lot of the girls who basically never stream are now graduating - shareholders don't like that. they doubtless ask questions all the time of "why does gura get all this shit when she gives you back basically nothing at all for years, she's making you look bad and biased"
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>>99159301
twisty and aster still blocked from graduating or streaming lol
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>>99159264
Aw man. It's a shame because she's genuinely the only funny person in Hololive.
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>>99159264
is that markiplier?
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>>99171223
she waited to see how the others performed once they left, ame fucked up but that that was her own doing, but fauna succeeded, even with a few breaks here and there, now she knows she doesnt need cover at all
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>>99175282
Why are you posting Guras' waiting room?
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>>99176000
oh no, this one said the word freedom, you just jinxed nimi.
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>>99185589
not have to work but also never graduating, thus leading chumpedos on which I think is based
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>>99188484
fauna actually streams however. dooby dookied her own career just like she always fucks shit up.

a gura-successor channel would probably get big hype and like 10-20k viewers at first but she'll just crap out and stop streaming more likely than not. if she actually became a consistent streamer it would suggest something was majorly in the way with her wanting to stream for cover all the way back from 2022 onward. which isn't impossible but it doesn't seem like there is a good explanation other than "she's lazy and rich-enough to not give a shit" - she already said she was partially-retired as gura like what, half a year ago or more?
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>>99176000
Nah, going indie is great for indie, but if you only care about money, it hasn't been proven to be a great idea yet
>Lose access to large scale merch, their biggest source of income
Yeah, not really worth it. For example, Nimi's debut merch is still very slowly being processed because her merch manufacturer / provider (Ohmonah) could only handle and prepared for hundreds units. Meanwhile Kronii just S/O thousands of her limited merch on top of an unknown (usually similar or more) amount of non-limited merch.
It's just a lot more of a headache to deal with large scale merch (by "large scale" I meant merch in the range of thousand(s) units per wave, not few dozens / hundreds) as indie. Even Kson with all her connections still flat out said she joined VShojo because her merch attempts as indies failed (more accurately, didn't make as much as she thought because providers charged her way more than what she expected)
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>>99189163 (me)
>Going indie is great for gaining freedom *
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>refuses to work
>gets removed from lucrative jobs to favor people who actually work

>>99159301
Their streams are being botted because they're obsessed with doki and trying to revive their brand.
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>>99189217
The freedom that is used to do exactly the same shit as they did as a coro. The only realistic upside I can think of is the perms bs. Everything else is just schizo speculation since no one knows wtf is actually happening behind the scenes.
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>>99189551
There's a lot of stuff that we know happens behind the scenes. Paperwork, mandatory meetings, contacting sponsors, etc. I can imagine that kind of stuff wears down a person even if they don't stream.
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>>99189729
>Paperwork
There's barely any that they probably have to do themselves.
>contacting sponsors
They literally don't do that themselves at all.
>mandatory meetings
Fair, and it sucks, but pretty much every job has those.
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>>99161117
Fauna antis swing back and forth between "she only quit because she's a grifter and wanted to make more money!" and "she's a retard who gave up all this sweet Cover cash because she had a woman moment!" You guys should probably settle on one.
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>>99176000
you actually have to stream to keep an audience as an indie
a two week hiatus let alone a months-long one means the algo buttfucks you and you shed base viewers.
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>>99191508
You're also forgeting "She never streams just like dooby" despite you know taking one brief break during cat arc before going back to stream more than 95% of holo.
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>>99187087
kek
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>>99159264
I've always wanted for the girls to leave the company en masse and go indie or just start their own where they're the ones in control, but I know that's never happening. Gura's been my oshi since day 1, and although I'll miss her model, I've been hoping she'd graduate and just go indie since like early 2021. I really don't care for Hololive or its talents (save for a few JP members) so I don't see the appeal in staying with the company.
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>>99180152
lmao dumbass
cant tell if you're a coping nijisis apologist or just a clueless newfag drama tourist
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>>99159264
the wall...
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>>99159406
Management doesn't want her to just play games because the person she is is a risk to the character they want to market.
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>>99159264
It's dreadfully concerning to me that it's now been almost TWO YEARS since Gura performed Full Color at Connect the World, and it STILL hasn't been released yet. And this isn't account all the months spent on producing the song prior to that. How to fuck does it take OVER two years to produce a single song!? What the fuck is happening to Hololive's management!? Did they expand too fast and are now understaffed or something!?
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>>99159341
I don't think Biboo appreciates being used by her fans as the standard to judge the rest of her colleagues by. Biboo's just built different. Not everyone is built like her. Few are in fact. Keep in mind that Biboo is only almost 2 years into this while Gura has been at this for 4+ years now.
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>>99199487
the opposite, they expanded and are now overstaffed. everything has to go through multiple managers before it leaves en. once things get to jp it gets even worse
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>>99161218
>Indie
>Makes 100 of something
>Sold out
>Huge success
>Corpo
>Makes 100000 of something
>Sold out
>NOOOOO SHE IS GETTING ONLY 25%!!!!!!!


kek!
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>>99199487
I genuinely think they hired a bunch of staff from the corpos that failed like upd8 when they expanded a couple years ago.
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>>99199487
There are like 10 managers now for every talent.

A bunch of souless employees who don't do anything useful there
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>>99159264
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>>99159587
This isnt really something she would feel the need to back out from. First of all why even back out if you're not graduating? It's not like it's an active project that you have to do something for
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>>99199487
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>>99201875
>Every holoEN has released multiple songs since Gura hasn't done shit for 3 years
>Including some justice members
Have you ever considered that the problem might be Gura?
I'm sure her projects will materialize a y day now.
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>>99201759
>100
Nimi sold almost 7k plushies
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>>99205150
Whatever it is I'll bet my left nut that it'll have over a million concurrent viewers if it's a stream.
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>>99205237
>Actually thinking Gura is more popular than aqua and coco at their peaks
Cumpedos really are delusional
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>>99165040
Are chumbuds really so delusional that they think the fate of vtubing as a whole sits in the hands of a woman who never streams, rather than the people who are out there streaming 40+ hours a week to thousands of viewers?
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>>99205217
$60 for a plush is a lot. Was it like watermelon-sized or something? Because fumo-size plushes on makeship are half that price.
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>>99205335
Are you willing to bet your testicles on if you're right?
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>>99173379
There is a good answer, though.
They've been botted so much over the past month that it's going to get them removed from some stat tracking websites due to it being so blatant. Everyone is noticing how something fishy is going on with NijiEN, both globally and in JP.
On top of that, Aster and Twisty are STILL missing. Which is fucking insane how nobody's cracked, or why the hell Niji hasn't made a statement yet.

Past that I don't give a shit.
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>>99205533
>stat tracking websites
nobody cares about this other than /#/fags
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>>99205648
True, but it was mostly just an example of how badly people are noticing that something fishy is going on with NijiEN.
When the JPs start tweeting about it, you know it's gone wrong.
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>>99205217
Damn, I should've got one. She's really growing on me.
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>>99201788
Honestly the first red flag for me was how soulless the return of HoloSummer was. With a fraction of the staff they would have later, they managed to make unique swimsuits for all of their then talents as well as a sweet MV.

Fast forward and in spite of greatly expanding, they give everyone cookie cutter bland bullshit and try to jazz it up and distract fans with sterile merch and various stream events. It was like some big soulless Hollywood remake of a beloved and classic film. How the fuck did they get it so wrong when they had so many more hands in the kitchen cooking?
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>>99159843
I hate biboo voice so I'd return to long playthrough of my favorite game from real male streamers
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>>99160030
I love her the most in holo, despite her flaws
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>>99160417
It was prerecorded and her manager upload it as if she still care
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>>99160986
She worked hard and matured under corpo roof. Zion Akua Moom had woman moments, not her
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>>99163988
Keep coping 2views
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>>99164589
Wait why all thing she pulled out somehow related to mori?
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Absolutely disgusting bad thread in every aspect. I wish SEA nothing but all the nukes possible to be launched onto Jakarta and Manilla.
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>>99160417
I order to prevent Youtube from closing her membership
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>>99166288
Yes you do, take some med
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>>99171223
Her patience ran out. She expected cover to help her music career, but full color never published
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>>99185589
Gathering artist and animator for mysterious reason
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>>99159264
What the fuck I look just like this guy



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