Which fanbase is the most abandoned or saddest right now? Have Ichimis reached the same level of abandonment as Chumbud, or is there someone who surpasses them?Why did your oshis do it?
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>>99162127I think the ichimin are more desperate than the chumbuds. The chumbuds have unlimited amounts of copium, while the ichimis, on the other hand, are losing their minds and taking their last resources from old marine clips
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>>99162127Wait, Marine does not stream anymore? Is she also leaving?wtf happened?
>>99163792She only do shill streams nowShe doesn't even tweet anymore unless is a sponsor/event
Remember when Marine said (just before her sololive) that she would turn down work in 2025 to stream more?https://x.com/houshoumarine/status/1910692744726454580
>>99164512She says a lot of things anon. Like saying she loves a game but never touching it again
>>99165526It's almost like that's the point I was making.
>>99162127Too busy taking care of Ao, please understand.
Everyone knows Marine isn't going anywhere, you can't even fathom true despair until you have to actually fear for your oshi's future.On the other hand chumbuds are basically a death cult now, they've long surpassed the depression phase and are just doing weird ERPposting now (just look at their general).
>>99168858Marine would never leave hololive but that doesn't mean the fanbase is happy just having their oshi there doing nothing
>>99168858I’ve noticed that chumbuds seem to prefer treating Gura as an idol in the worshipful sense of the word and not as an entertainer they look towards for inspiration and motivation.
>>99168858Well all the graduations don’t paint a good picture either way. Marine one of the few that’s always said and told newer girls to fight management for what they want. Now all of a sudden Cover trying to gain more control of the girls (probably with new contract terms) and tons of girls are graduating and Marine is MIA except for shill shit
>>99162127No, plenty of those crying about Senchou abandoning are just annoying fucks trying to start drama, she's currently busy as fuck or her voice is fucking up for using it a lot and really she already talked about this on the membership stream.
>>99163564These new emotes feel like a rebranding They are cute but I can't believe we lost ワ and marine pien
>>99169367I know! They’ll be missed.
>>99168858>Everyone knows Marine isn't going anywhere But that's the worst part of it. We know she's not going anywhere and she keeps saying she wants to stream but then doesn't.She keeps lying to keep the fans supporting her because she has no intention of leaving.
>>99169225Why is she busy? Because she again took up a bunch of work right after saying that she wouldn't do that this year.
She was motivated because she liked her manager. Then they changed her manager and she fucked up over and over with her and other talents and the chick quit. Now she doesn’t wanna bother anymore.Basically from what I have learned is most of the time the motivation or NON motivation some these girls have is from how good their manager are at doing their job
>>99169959She still does a bunch of work and appears at everyone's 3D streams. She just doesn't do content for her own fanbase anymore.
>>99169959That's true of work in general, honestly. For most jobs how much you can tolerate it depends massively on how well you get along with your manager.
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>>99162127Gura is a lazy zoomer and marine is giving sex therapy to her menhera girlfriend, pls understand
>>99162194Bots like robo fans?
Chumbies are fine. They're used to it
>>99162127FOOL
>>99162127Rip
>>99162127Bro looks like a Tenga
>>99168858>On the other hand chumbuds are basically a death cult now>nowI have no factual basis behind this, but I am abso fucking lutely positive if I were to grab a list of days she hasn't strea,ed versus days she has, it'd be a 3:1 ratio minimum.
>>99187404are you implying she streams 1/3rd of the days of the year? that's incredibly optimistic of you. it's more like 1/10th or 11th.also for comparison she gets 350k views across everything ever on her channel the past week. that's all songs or whatever too. wanna know what that is for marine? 17.5 million. 12 million for suisei. for girls who stream a lot but don't have songs giving them fucking crazy stats, like pekora or kobo, that's in the 1-2 million range still. gura underperforms severely in every metric besides having a high sub count - of which, like 4 million of her current 4.5 million was attained within I think a year of her debut. it's been a very slow crawl ever since. it's a burnt out ember of a career, nobody should be shocked at all if/when she leaves and more of go "what took you so long"
>>99187200Dude no I do notZip your dick back up posthaste
>>99187786Might wanna point out that that's a clean 50x on viewership on Marine's channel over Gura. The hidden factor people don't take into account with chuubas is that just high VOD views alone can sustain channels like fucking crazy. 10 mil views on youtube, without demonetization, is gonna be between like 10-50 grand. marine's channel pulls in probably between like 20-90k per week for cover ~~~just for existing~~~, completely irrespective of members, SCs and merch. that is several million a year US. Gura's youtube VOD views? her channel pulls probably like 100k max, maybe just a couple dozen k otherwise.CCV is a thing too yeah but even there Marine tends to do far better than Gura, actually. Gura looks like an unstoppable beast only relative to other ENs. she's handily beaten by JPs in many ways. probably the only upper hand she has at all is merch but that's mostly owing to her model which is just gonna be a static buff.
>>99188429I’d like to rebut the point about Marine’s revenue. Around 90% of her views come from short-form videos, which generate significantly less income compared to other formats. While she does earn a sizable amount from this, it’s not as much of an outlier as you might think.
>>99162127>Ichimiswho?
>>99169959>most of the time the motivation or NON motivation some these girls have is from how good their manager are at doing their jobFans nowhere in the picture. Grim, absolutely grim.
>>99162194Those bots?All me.
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>>99163792She's taking care of Ao-kun
