How will westerners ever recover?
The comments reek of /#/monkeyism
>>99181177>westerners SEA is on the east
>>99181451real gajin hours ngl og fr no cap
>finally realizing her dream of graduating from hololivepraise yagoo
>>99184779Alhamdulyllahgoo brother!
Why would you want someone who knows nothing of your culture and actively spits upon it to be an ambassador?
>>99181177Gura leaving would truly be the selen tatsuki of hololive
>>99181177Absolute pink domination! Mococo and Raora soon?
>>99185387>wuffian>making a braindead retarded posti'd say "name a better combo" but your fat ass would probably think i'm talking about fast food
>>99185387lol and lmao
>>99185334they unironically fell for the numbers meme
>>99185477I bet you're a dumbass pebble
>>99181177Nothingburger, The only matter is when she graduates,
>>99181177Hahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
>>99185541will it even matter when she has streamed like 10 times streamed in the past 2 years
>>99185387Selen was, by Niji's own standards, negligible. Gura is, by Cover's own standards, one of the most important people to their brand. I could break down more and more points from the little I know of Gura and the even less I know of Selen but the point is that there is literally nothing even remotely comparable between the two in this scenario.
>>99185334said culture (soulless corpo-worshipping fake ass nips) was what forced this shit upon her in the first place, good thing it's over now
>>99185735holy cope
>>99185602Chumbuds love it, they treat every one of her streams as a major event
>>99185541Gura doesn't stream and doesn't take part in any holo events.If she graduates, nothing changes. No-one will even notice.
>>99185825What kind of cope is it to say Gura is more valued by her company than Selen is valued by her own company? I'm not saying "Gura will come back" or "chumbuds are anything other than delusional cucks", I'm just stating the facts that there's nothing similar between the two of them and there's basically no scenario where Gura get's Selen'd.
>>99181177I'm curious as to what caused her to stream less and do less overall, even fes there was barely a peep out of her.
>>99185928>treat every stream as a major eventthis is a bad thing actucally you guiseeee omg what the heck like O M G
>>99186010you can't make this shit up
>>99185735>Selen was negligible>i know nothing about SelenAre you trying to score with a nijisister?
>>99185995Cool make it happen
>>99185995this, people who hate holo will pretend like it's some huge catastrophe when basically every EN fan from like 2022 onward would go "gura? who? that one that streams once every 3-4 months? whatever"
>>99186060>Selen was negligibleRetard.>Selen was, BY NIJI'S OWN STANDARDS, negligible.I'm not saying their standards were right. Well, maybe, I imagine Kazuha makes everyone look like an ant, but not in the way that those evil motherfuckers did it. The point was that Niji doesn't give a fuck about their members which is objectively true, and Cover even at their worst is still better than that shithole by default.
>>99186102>>99185995Yah no, Gura is still significant. There's a reason why her tweet alone had 6m views in such a short span time
>>99186010You can't state facts here, anon, that's totally on you.
>>99186174Lmao +1 holo graduation soon
>>99186102Nah they'd pretend to feel sad about her for a week and then life would move on because nobody from Promise onward got to make meaningful connections with her and the few connections she had with Myth/Promise has long since atrophied.
>holofags already pretend gura isn't worth anything anymoreKek
>>99186219I wouldn't doubt it? In fact I'm expecting several more throughout this year. Things are changing internally, for the worst or better is up for debate though I firmly believe it's for the worst and we're going to have people lost, but that still doesn't change a single point I've made.
>>99185995i'd notice. I'd change. Now what?
>>99186200It's because chumkeks, dramaniggers, and everyone and their mom rushed to it for more bait, seeth, and a hope of seeing it be a graduation post
>>99185735did you consider the companies might be wrong and drinking their own kool aid about what really matters or not? they seem to give very little shits about what the audience zeitgeist/meta is at and care more about who is most likely to bring in merch deals than who is actually being talked about and considered crucial core members or not. anycolor thought selen didn't matter much in the grand scheme of things of their couple-hundred talent company but didn't seem to intuitively perceive that all EN fans knew she was the last lynchpin of the original nijiEN fanbase after luxiem totally trashed the old feeling/vibes. she was literally irreplaceable as one of the last reasons to keep watching nijiEN if you're male especially since it came on the heels of pomu leaving.cover values gura because they can go to whatever company run by a bunch of people in their 50s-60s and say "we have the world's biggest subcribed vtuber" and they can go look it up and see beeeg nooomber and not question that and sign them on for stuff. the actual holoEN fandom basically never talks about her day to day if she isn't streaming. she literally already doesn't fucking matter. every fucking gloating faggot phasedrone should know in advance, we DO NOT FUCKING CARE if she leaves. because she already left in spirit years ago. you'd just be outing yourselves as ignorant newfags thinking we reallllly care about the big number, just like how cover relies on ignorance to carry her/their brand dealing with rando companies. she can be 10 billion trillion subs and still hardly matter at all on the ground if she still hardly ever streamed. she could be the runt of holoEN period and be considered a staple backbone member by the fans if she was always there streaming. like, kiara and bae gradually won over a lot of people that way. miko famous as she is got to where she was by just daily grinding from being nearly 2view status as a holo (not shitting you) and never letting up for years and years.
>>99186634>did you consider the companies might be wrong and drinking their own kool aid about what really matters or not?Yes. I expanded upon specifically that. If you can write a fucking Reddit essay the least you can do is continue to read a reply chain.
>>99186200people paying attention to her still =/= she's actually important. 5.98 million views from people who do not fucking watch her objectively if her ccv is like 20k.
is this niji/phasefag fan-fiction writing thread?
This literally just holofags fighting holofags
>>99186062I don't want to make it happen.>>99186395And I'm asking why?I get it, it was a big thing when they brought big profile vtubing to the west, and it made a big impact. Your nostalgia about that will not disappear. Gura clips will not disappear.But how can you notice her graduating when she's already gone?
>>99187479Gura is one of the few chuubas tickling that special spot. We'll talk about it in a few years when you've grown up, big man ;)
>>99185995a whole bunch of pedos would noticeand we would see less usage of the word cunnyKEK
Nothing against Gura but I hope it happensI wish to enjoy the chaos.
>>99186219They cant fucking stop farming bad karma, these holobronies.
>>99186028I agree, I'd also like to know, at least so there's closure.
>>99185995Gura's still extremely big with the casual part of the vtubing fandom, to the point where they'll STILL have her be the first thing they think when they hear "vtubing".Loser her can very possibly be losing them.>Good, shitters should be gatekeptLike it or not losing them would be a pretty huge blow for Cover, especially outside of japan.
>>99193635Those casuals clearly would rather be watching xqc or going to the Minecraft movie to throw popcorn than watch vtubers consistently however. If Gura left ironmouse would be the most recognized vtuber in the west - but her ccv isn't a really that good all things considered, neurosama is much much more actually watched yet isn't considered like the face of vtubing (because vedal doesn't shill her around and try to leech off big flesh tubers weekly).
>>99185995A lot of 2020 tourists who quit vtubing after covid ended would pretend to be sad, as well as normies who watch a handful of vtubers at most. Everyone else quit watching Gura years ago and wouldn't care.
See, when Mayuzumi graduated Nijisanji fanbase sent him off well. Cannot think of any Holo that got a send off like that. With Gura, arguably their most influential talent of all time, Holofags are nothing but spiteful.
>>99198672If kuzuha didn't stream for 3 years and kept pretending everything's great nothing's wrong the few times he shows up anywhere, people would be annoyed with him.Can't really find an equivalent in nijiEN because Petra simply fell off the face of the earth and very few care. If she graduated "suddenly" would anyone be in tears over it (besides rosemi)? Not really. If Petra has sometimes shown up giving off a bunch of fake hype that there are a bunch of cool projects coming and then radio silence over and over? The indifference would go to annoyance, I guarantee it.
>>99181177It's dreadfully concerning to me that it's now been almost TWO YEARS since Gura performed Full Color at Connect the World, and it STILL hasn't been released yet. And this isn't account all the months spent on producing the song prior to that. How to fuck does it take OVER two years to produce a single song!? What the fuck is happening to Hololive's management!? Did they expand too fast and are now understaffed or something!?
As someone who started watching hololive in late 2022, I find it funny I've never ever known what it's like to have regular Gura streams.
>>99186331She hasn’t streamed actively in forever, and the whole branch has to pretend she is just in stasis. Enough of this tiptoeing, just rip the bandage off already.
There's been "evidence" that she's graduating so many times over the past 3 years that I'll believe it when I see it
>>99196521I didn't quit by choice, I can't watch streams that don't exist
>>99199541As someone who started watching hololive a bit after gen 3 debuted, you didn't miss anything. She is highly overrated. The only time when she sounded like streaming wasn't a chore was her first 6 months.
>>99184779You can try, but you're not blending in, brown boy
>>99181451we need ID's and Flag
>>99181177She was removed back in October 2024Search "tocho_tenbou + <member fullname>" on Twitter and there is no tweet about gawrgurahttps://x.com/tocho_tenbou/status/1851874294353007061https://x.com/tocho_tenbou/status/1871420612234653873
>>99181177She'll just become an affiliate, it will be the same as it is nowNobody will care that she's gone, we will still draw fanart, still use her reaction images, still talk about her, still love herAnd she'll have the opportunity to come back at any time, just like Ame
>>99193635Only in the West luckily, and the West's HoloEN has been floundering for quite a while now, with or without Gura.
Gura exists for creatively bankrupt artists and cosplayers
>>99200442This will never happen. Keep seething about it.
>>99200484>in October 2024She was still on the site as early as January of this year
>>99185387Yeah Naw, go fuck yourself, elira
owari da....
>>99186200>streamer doesnt do anything for a long time>no one talks about her>does something>people talk about heron a normal day, no one talks about gura. the only significance she has is popping in once a month then chumbuds would delude themselves into thinking she's back, then repeat.
>>99193635Yeah but they aren't even streams to watch so what the point? There's no losing them if those people aren't even watching Hololive in the first place.
>>99208940*there
>>99208940Merch, mostly. She still pushes merch like a motherfucker and I'd bet anything that there's thousands of people who will buy a piece of Gura merch and know nothing about her beyond a few clips. No more Gura = no new merch = no new clips.
>>99213565Merchandising/sponsorships seems to have stopped for Gura. It's not like they can stop her if she wants to retire for real anyway. If she ever goes indie, she will not have any choice but to stream to earn money.
>>99185387Not unless Cover suddenly wipes Gura's channel, then puts out a 3 page termination letter listing every rule she broke
>>99215463Indies can make money off merch, but Gura would be too lazy to manage the supply chain or hire someone to do it.
>>99181177chumcucks
>>99200277The DMC5 streams were good.But then she streamed DMC3 and sounded like she did not want to be there.And DMC4 didn't even get out of the gate.
>>99186331At least they're bracing for incompetent
real chumbud herei wouldn't care less if she graduated, i stopped caring about hololive a long time ago
>>99181177Writing was on the wall 3 years ago, lazy shark couldn't even get out out of hololive in a timely manner.
>>99217463Cumpedos have been holoantis since day 1.Enjoy no streams in the future.
>>99181177CONTRACT IS ALMOST UP LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>99181360Fpbp>>99181177>>99184779Have you faggots just considered that Gura doesnt want to travel to Japan regularly? She is a mutt overall. Calli in contrast lives in Japan. Hell, Fuwamoco would be a better fit.Besides, Gura would work better as an American ambassador
>>99181510>og fr no capwhat?
>>99217701nah, i enjoyed hololive during the golden era around 2022, when it was all about girls having fun and being idolsnowadays Hololive is way too corpo, too greedy, constantly forcing products down our throats, there's no soul anymore.
>>99185995thisfrankly I'd much rather she got her shit together rather than graduated, but at this point, graduation wouldn't change a thing
>>99215963Don't forget to include a black stream by Mori, Ina, and Kiara /s
streamers are the most easily replaced job ever, one quit, another will take their place, doesn't matter how big they were
>>99186102>gura? who?
>>99181360monkeyism has graduated shes a roach for vshojo now
>>99185735She's important to the brand, but her leaving would make zero difference to the content as she's not active anyway.
>>99218893Why are so many names wrong? Kek
>>99181451no it isnt
>no enreco recordings>not in the card game>now thisis her contract just to be ENs mickey mouse?
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>>99218893It's weird to judge someone in a sidebranch by foreign fans who just see them as a cute mascot that sings songs and has merch. Anya gets to look more popular than other ID's because people like her secretly JP shtick but she gets literally no fans when it comes to her own channel at the end of the day.
