https://x.com/laniidol/status/1910875506989556075
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>>99208680Yikers. Corpo want to have the cake and eat it too.
>>99208758Looks like it's a (now former) idol manageridol was acquired by Brave Group US late last year
>>99208680Isn't Brave technically the 3rd largest Vtubing company, or am I misremembering?
>Brave Grouphttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KuWjZD6PBA&pp=ygUPaXQncyBnb2luZyBkb3duhttps://youtu.be/O4irXQhgMqgback to their old ways huh?
>>99208680Another whore trying to pull a selen to a corpo. Fuck all corpo haters. You will not bring down brave. Himehina are happy where they are and US whores are lazy.
>Brave group
>>99209064Yes. It's basically doing what Embracer Group did but with vtuber agencies: buying a shit ton of them and using the number of agencies they own as leverage to get more funding to buy more agencies. Their purchases fare as well as you expect.
>>99209064By way of acquisition, yes. To put it another way, they bought up enough small corpos that they are, in aggregate, a large corpo.
>>99209237This isn't a vtuber, this is a manager
>>99209064no, they're a holding company.
>>99208680>talent manager convinces everyone to go all in their PLs>they redebut, vaguepost nonstop and spend more time streaming there than in their corpo account>gets fired>pic related
>>99209249>>99209263That's what I thought. I just didn't know how big they were all together.That is a very serious offence, although it might not reach far due to it not being an outward facing talent. It could arguably be considered a wrongful termination,if it's true that they didn't breach NDA.
>>99209428That isn't an NDA breach though
>>99209428stop lying, idol was never against their PL activities, it was absolutely normal over there.
>>99209494Occasional PL activity? Sure. Now, the kind of shit Menace is doing? 99% streaming time on PL and occasionally doing a 20 minutes stream in their corp?
>>99208680So what did Brave group try to do to the idol_corp members that is so bad that their manager had to step in and resulted in a termination?
>>99209581idol never cared about the PL stuff, talents were absolutely allowed to do whatever they wanted, and brave bought that.
>>99209581>the kind of shit Menace is doing? 99% streaming time on PL and occasionally doing a 20 minutes stream in their corpAnd she's allowed to do that, or she would have been terminated already, I know you're desperate to simp for brave but you have absolutely nothing.
Mariya made a new channel to funnel viewers there. Mono recently appeared on Henemimi's birthday stream as her loli alt. All my big titty whores are going to graduate, aren't they? Do you think Gigi will give them a pity shoutout, for old times, or will she forget all the times they let her cop a feel of their tits whenever she asked?
>>99209616>>99209689So why are you ignoring what I just said about how much time exactly they're dedicating to PL stuff? No corp is against PL activity and I agree with that, but are you really arguing that any talent should be free to completely abandon their corpo persona to spend all time on their PL while still getting paid because every few months they show back up there to say hi and end stream?
>>99209263Vspo is a very large company
>>99209715see >>99209689
>>99209581I like menace more than coni.
>>99209715>No corp is against PL activityNijisanji is
>>99209064Technically yes but they’re completely unprofitable kept running by venture capital money and the only brand they have that’s a success is VSPO who they bought
>>99209715That doesn't matter in this case. You don't usually fire a manager due to that, and you certainly don't fire them for doing something they didn't do.
>>99209715If you don’t want people doing activity on accounts you don’t own out it in the contract
>>99209714she's never even so much as alluded to them, prolly forgor their names the moment she walked out the door
>>99209715If what Menace was doing was not allowed by Brave, Brave would terminate HER, not terminate a manager.
>>99209782your mom is
OH so this is why /vt/ has had such aggressive shitstirrers recently. Brave Group troll farm? They're obviously not above something like that if they're pulling shit like this and internally discussing "controlling the narrative."
The same shit is happening in Hololive
>>99208680Hopefully they buy phase
>>99209896>>99209923Brave Group troll farm confirmed immediately. Hilarious.
>>99209923Manager got terminated and is speaking out about it? Link me the thread
>>99209751>>99209892>no argument, just quoting a post that says something completely retarded (because any corp that fired a talent over not streaming would gets endless amounts of bitching on every social media)I see.Good to see corpo antis getting more material they can use to campaign nonetheless.
>>99209953Phase is not for sale
>>99209581Menace still active in a corp??? I always thought she's ex-corpo
>>99209990Except they wouldn't be firing her for not streaming, they would be firing her for violating the terms of her contract, IF she was actually breaking the terms of her contract, which she's not.
>>99209885She's mentioned DJs once or twice so she remembers mono anyway, I don't know if they're in each other's dms though.
>>99209990again, she's not a talent, she's a talent manager and this has nothing to do with PL activity, stop twisting things, you look like a retard.
>>99208758Lane was Brave's Achan basically. Beloved by a lot of girls and much of the community. She's been portrayed as that white haired woman in a suit here: https://youtu.be/o3XuTecbEVc?t=19
>>99209990Regardless, if you're going to terminate someone for performance reasons, then terminate them for performance reasons. Trying to fabricate an NDA breach is scum shit
>>99210006She never graduated she just streams like 1 time a month, usually in a collab with others like the Miside collab in December.>>99209953Why does phase live rent free in your little brown head?
>>99209715If I joined an agency and my agency got sold to a different company then I have a choice to either follow the new one or leave. And when I choose to stay I should expect better treatment and better deals than I was in my old agency, but in this case, the members choose to stream more on PL, so instead of complaining about that, why not look back inside and ask what's wrong internally that made them prioritize their PL over their official job?
>>99210164No, no, no. That's not how you work corporate. It's much easier to sabotage others and deflect blame -- anything else would require actual work, and we all know work is for the retards who are stupid enough to give a shit.
>>99209581Kai(dragon girl) has completely revamped her PL from a sharkgirl to a wolfgirl. She used to be called Tsunari, now she's Piper
>>99210164Idol endless are actual friends and thick as theives if you watch them and see the frequency that the collab together in idol and on their pls. They're unityfags through and through. Its really admirable.
I don't know much about Brave Group, but I've heard rumors that V4Mirai fans really hate Gigi and think she's a traitor or some shit. Is this true?
>>99210006Still technically exists in idolcorp as Coni, but she only really streams on that account when the other girls in her gen want to do a full gen collab. Their EN2 gen is a pretty tight knit bunch, and hang out both when streaming for the company and when streaming on their indie accounts.
>>99210369Better than being on the side of that faggot called Monty Seelana who kept chasing people around for having loli vtuber avatar/rigs.
>>99210415Add to that Mitty(Fuyo) and Meatokki(Juna), who are regularly part of Endless' PL collabs. Rin really doesn't care and wants to do her own thing, but none of the girls are on bad terms with her.
>>99208680Why do these people make companies without any clear goals or sources of revenue? Do they just hope investors buy in on the vtuber hype from 5 years ago?
>>99210594probably to scam investors
>>99210523I have no idea what any of this means
>Got laid off, with severance evenI don't know what the drama here is.
Are they all still demonetized? That's the last news I paid attention to regarding them.
>>99210594Yes
>>99210415>>99210561They trauma bonded due to idol's slow and now public collapse. I watch everyone in their clique, they're allll great girls. 3sekai/endless rabu!
>>99210667a bit over half did, still about six or seven are still in limbo
>>99210720isn't coni one of those?
>>99210149So like Gura, but actually streams elsewhere?
>>99210752yes
>>99209064Its kind of weird because they own a lot of vtubing companies that operate as if they were independent like Idol. So it doesn't really show.
>EN vtubing
>>99209064....yes and no. Like >>99209263 said, they're a bunch of small agencies which, if combined, would be the third-largest vtuber agency.VSPO, VSPO EN, V4Mirai, Idol, and Globie are all owned by Brave; but they are otherwise individual vtuber agencies completely independent of one another. Although I'm not sure if VSPO JP and VPSO EN are different branches of the same agency, or if they're different agencies entirely like the other Brave agencies.....does Brave own other agencies? I think they brought Neo Porte recently? I'm probably misremembering something.
>>99210752Yes. Brave's total lack of support and constant failed promises for Coni is why she went back to her own account. Contracts work both ways
>>99210681>3sekai>3nigga Rin defoo'd her entire gen, there's no unity there
>>99210778now you can tell this faggot >>99209581 is arguing in bad faith, there's no way he doesn't know coni is demonitized
>>99210369I wouldn't know, but I imagine it's probably like how some Hololive fans demonize members like Fauna and Ame because they left Hololive, except if they then joined Vshojo or Nijisanji.
>>99210882Oh so they're retarded, gotcha
>>99210827Rin is an aloof and wealthy autistic woman child but she's not bad terms with mitty or juna, they have both spoken well of her since they all graduated.
>>99210660>Brave CEO tried to fabricate an NDA breach>Brave CEO everyone she resigned, when in reality she was terminated>Since it was a termination, she requested severance>Brave: "If you want it, you'll need to keep your mouth shut about all this">Manager: "Nah fuck that, I'm telling everyone the shit you tried to pull"
>>99210988I hope she sues and wrecks this black company lmao
>>99210752Coni gives so much of a shit that she couldn't login on Youtube today for her new outfit and never even tried to reach anyone about it, so she went to twitch, did a 20 minutes stream and fucked off
>>99208680These things always happens to other companies but Cover never ever gets leaks, ever. Come on people spill the beans already
>>99208680Once a black company, always a black company. They makes Niji looks like dark gray.
>>99211131You sound desperate
>>99210988"Find a reason to fire them" is quite normal, gotta have something to refute the unemployment claim with later. The fact they even got severance at all is crazy.
None of this will matter. And MimiYou’re a whore
>>99210838Do you know who's one of the Idol members who got hit by the demonetization first, but also got it back right away? Poko.Do you know who's one of the Idol members who's been streaming the most on her PL? Poko.Koa and Daisy also got demonetized but they've been grinding streams as much as they can this whole time. The rest of Daisy's gen also got demonetized and they've been streaming about as much, and they just got remonetized last week. And lastly, Coni only got demonetized well after she shifted focus to her PL.
>>99210795Yumenos, VspoCN, VLash, Viollet, Riot Music, Uniride, Mugen Live, Palette Project, Ix, HimeHina, AStars, Cho Ginga Record, cilq,Egous, flill, HareVare and Lion and that’s not taking into account the various corpses of groups including one of the earliest and most disastrous fuckups like Game Club Project.
>>99211130>never even tried to reach anyone about itOr she did, and they never responded, just like they don't to all the other talents. Keep sucking that corpo cock
>>99208680Excuse me what in the ever loving fuck? Isn't this really fucking serious? This can't be legal.
>>99211271Find a reason to fire is, but usually not with something so bold. Usually, you would just put 'doesn't meet company performance expectations' due to missing something that you couldn't reasonably achieve.You also don't threaten to take that away if you say anything. That's effectively blackmail.
>>99210795you may be right about vspo because their merchandise shop is different if you compare it, JP(store.vspo.jp) and EN(shop.bravegroup.us.com)
>>99211271Could have gone with a bog-standard "we're letting you go because of cost reduction" and nobody would have been the wiser, instead they're on record trying to fabricate an NDA breach
>>99211470Hopefully they've got recorded evidence and this wasn't all verbal. Otherwise all the Brave guys have to do is say they have no recollection of what Lani is claiming.
>>99211470These are standard tactics for Nip companies. It's impressive Brave managed to somehow be worse than the Israeli who had multiple companies sold off from unpaid debts though
>>99208680If it was Hololive, nobody would give a shit lmao
>>99211330>Coni only got demonetized well after she shifted focus to her PL.yeah because there's no money in idol anymore, she needs to pay bills, it's not like she has the glorious swedish social security behind her like poko.
>>99211028you can't sue someone that big and realistically expect to gain anything from it, sadly. You'll just get swamped in legal fees until you go bankrupt.
>>99211574Ah yes, maybe the samurai were the jews to be feared all along.
>>99211557Likely the manager was under contract and they needed a way to break the contact.
>>99211568They seem to be recorded, verbally recorded at minimum, the question is if they would delete them, and if there are any backups.
>>99211568Well apparently she has actual recordings which have been sent to legal teams. If these recordings didn't actually exist, I'd imagine she'd be in seriously deep shit. Or more than right now, at least.
>>99211271Surprised they didn't try to bully her into suicide
>>99211702That was Re:Act iirc.
>>99211645Then just terminate the contract early and pay severance, don't try to fabricate an NDA breach in order to avoid having to pay severance
>>99211629If she has actual recordings of wrongful termination, libel, and a hostile working environment, the legal fees aren't going to matter when Brave is ordered to pay them
>>99211775I wish that were the case.After the Karl Jobst thing I've lost all faith in all legal systems. The US is even worse when it comes to favoring rich people. They just need to stall long enough that you starve before they actually go to trial.
>>99210979This. There was sadly never really much gen unity in esekai because of the vastly different focus some members had compared to others. It was also plagued by Pochi getting a rebrand for no other reason than "I felt like it" before fucking off, and of course Yuko's antics drawing lots of negative light as well.
>>99210594Tricked by Holo, Niji, VShojo and Isegye's successes. They didn't realize that those 4 asides, not everyone can even be Phase.
Corpo's suck ass, but the law sucks Corpo dick.
>>99210369no, everyone is happy for honse or indifferent
>>99208680EN whores and their accusation without the receiptsHer, Selen and many EN bitches will not be the last oneI wish total death to ENshits and their fanbase
>>99212021As much as I talk shit about Phase, they try to do their own thing + fish man seems to run things ethically. Fuck off phasebeggar
>>99212161This is a manager, she doesn't have a fanbase.Also she has receipts, they're just currently being used to set up a court case. Even a person with the most clear-cut case doesn't share that with the public.
>>99212266you're going to hurt his brain with facts and logic
>>99212266innocent until proven by receiptsi don't believe in woman's feeling or their words
>>99212161Please run the thread through chatgpt so you understand what's going on before looking even more retarded, ESL-kun
>>99212351go away homobeggar
>>99209581Guess they should have written their contracts better then. Lani didn't write them. She was just following what was in them.
>>99212161Are you okay, esl-kun?
>>99212351Either way, you won't get that, because LEGALLY, that is a bad idea. Whether in the US, or in Japan, you don't share internal documents and recordings unless you are presenting them in a court case, and I have a strong feeling that whatever happens, Brave would not allow the public to see them, whether they go to trial or not.
>>99212351I was hoping with USAID gone, your people's internet access would finally be cut off. Ah well.
>>99211271If a company is firing an employee with cause, the company generally has to tell the employee in writing what that cause is. If the firing is without cause, they can't refute unemployment claims later.Apparently they didn't notify her in writing what the cause was, and instead are trying to blackmail her into silence.
>>99211131Because Cover usually doesn't fire people due to non-existent NDA breaches, or cause people to attempt to overdose on drugs.Almost all of Cover's graduations and terminations, at worst, have been due to actual reasonable terminations, or due to things Cover can't reasonably control, like mental health, differing views from the talents, or an entire country becoming upset at one of your talents. At minimum, this tells us that Cover is doing things by the books when it comes to firing someone.
>>99209759Grim.
>>99212161you might get your wish
>>99208680Shouldn't she sue instead of airing it on the internet
>>99213640She is, read the last sentence.
>>99211822do you understand what Karl Jobst case was about?
>>99211620Thats one way to call her situation i guess
>>99209715>but are you really arguing that any talent should be free to completely abandon their corpo persona to spend all time on their PL while still getting paid because every few months they show back up there to say hi and end stream?If that's the contract that was presented to them. Yes.
>>99211599Hololive is in dire need for some firings of managers
>>99209593They asked them to stream
>>99211754>expecting corporate suits to ever honour any of their promisesHow naive. They will 100% always try to fuck over everybody and the only way you can win is through being a hardass with them. Everything recorded. Everything in writing.
>>99209237Stop defending your holding company here chris
>>99209064It's just VSPOJP that's carrying their ass
>>99211659>>99211693Wonder if they are recordings of them speaking it in japanese or just recordings of the translated transcripts of their translator.The latter would just end with the translator being thrown under a bus and them getting away scott free
>>99209714>Mono recently appeared on Henemimi's birthday stream as her loli alt.I tried to scrub through her bday strean and didn't saw anything, you have a specific time?
>>99214890 (me)I mean in which bday stream the 15hr one or the 12 hr one.
I don't care about man ass.
>>99210369>I don't know much about Brave GroupThey are they guys that also did the VA change trick back in the days, they just rebranded
>>99210101>I don't know if they're in each other's dms though.from v4mirai's side, they have mentioned her checking on them and saying hi
So>Hostile acquisitions>Blatant botting>Having their acquisitions pretend they are independent when they aren't>Black corpo shit like faking reasons for firing people and contracts telling people to shut and accept slanderous reasons for firing or they are getting suedThey really want that Niji spot huh
>>99215431Do people not know Brave was always the original black company?They were doing the shit people lost it over with Selen back in 2019
>>99215292Hololiv should get a new betterva for their mumei character.
>>99208908>>99210123Oh, Lani, right. When I was still actively watching Kai, I remember her talking about how much she loved her. I can't imagine Lani being fired went over well with Kai, never mind the rest of the Idol girls that knew her, and if what this statement says is true, I'd bet a number of them know about it from Lani herself. I guess that explains all of the active PLs of late.
>>99208680Is this the literal Israel one?
>>99216275Ex-israel one, brave bought em like 6 or 7 months ago
Former v4mirai talent statement about the situation
>>99208680Impossible, /vt/ told me Brave is good now because... they gave one of their groups early 3D models?
>>99216423Is this Abi?
>>99216564Yes
What the fuck were Lisa and Meru thinking joining this group?They are just bad decision making girls
>>99216596Huh, interesting. I remember Abi just up and left suddenly without any sort of notice. It was so sudden that even Serina was apparently surprised by it.
>>99216899She also said in her tweet>I had to deal with what Lami was dealingSo I guess it was a termination after all
>>99211822Anon you fell for propaganda. Karl Jobst lost because he accused the dude of driving someone to suicide, which was false and the thing he got sued over. He tried to powder the shit and make it look like it was about Donkey Kong but it was never about Donkey Kong.
>>99216925That would make sense. I remember at the time, it was speculated that Abi graduated by choice and was either going to join Hololive or some other "big" corpo, or that she had to leave for personal, IRL reasons. But the sheer suddenness of Abi's departure, especially in comparison to Biscotti, would match with it being a stealth termination.
>>99208680>firing the only manager that anyone of the talents spoke positive of and actually did workWhat the fuck
>company that was knows as a black company is still a black companyWho could have predicted this
Indies keep winning. Senzawa, come finish the job.
>>99216746The allure of having a 3D concert in front of bottled viewers who aren’t even real
>>99210790kys SEAmurai
>>99208680>take the small corpo pill>the small corpo pill:
>>99217880>Brave>small corpo
>>99217880Brave is a big corpo pretending to be a small corpo.
>>99209759Me too its funny to learn she was coni i didnt connect the dots till now when it was pointed out to my dumb ass. I watched a lot of coni streams and still check in every once in awhile to watch a stream vod. Good to know she can be herself now and not have to hold back as menace.
>>99218064They are failing miserable at it.You would think it should be easy street for them to smurf but they are a laughingstock
>>99218091Brave has never had an organically successful endeavor.All their success came from buying VSPO and they don’t even manage VSPO at all, it’s completely independently ran per an agreement between the Brave CEO and the former VSPO CEO.
>>99218178All their branch's are independently ran
>>99218206Yeah, they would like people to believe that
>>99218306It's something that becomes pretty clear when you compare BraveUS with BraveEU
>>99217489white as a kite my mancope
>>99217420indies? there is only holo or not holo, this is holo win
>>99211130why would she do her part for Brave when Brave screwed over the person whose been the only person on her side since she debuted in Aviel's absent minority father corpo
>>99208680>reports of Brave Group JP being a black company come out>bbb--bbut it's just the JP branch>all the other branches are super separate and basically different companies>reports of Brave Group EU (globie) being a black company come out>globie was always a shithole!>it's just this branch management that's shit>reports of Brave Group US (V4Mirai) being a black company come out>hey but one of the V4M girls made it into holo so really joining a Brave org is totally good for your career!>reports of Brave Group US (idol) being a black company come out>it was just the talents favorite manager>she probably deserved it too!I'm starting to think these might not be isolated incidents after all
>>99220120>V4M's member that looked to be their first breakout thanks to busting her ass networking suddenly disappears to the surprise of her genmate>wow she must have got a good job offer>lolnope just terminated>okay but here's how this is good for Brave..
>>99208680dont even act surprised, these are the same retards who did the gamebu shit
>>99220275Are you an insider for Brave or something?How the fuck you know all that?
>>99220120I won't be surprised if someone other than Noguchi is mishandling the entire organization.
>>99220307>>99216925
>>99220275>V4M's member that looked to be their first breakout you don't need to oversell it like that, those retards already look bad enough
>>99209581Then they should offer contracts that disallow pl activities for more benefits, not fire people for playing with the loophole.
>>99220277qrd?
>>99217230dont you love corporatism
>>99220275Let me know if you can dig inside Brave Group China and Asia-Pacific too.
>>99217442kek
>>99209715>while still getting paiddo your reps you fucking retard
>Coni's corpo is in its death throes, you say?>How unfortunate, indeed
>>99222492lumi was right about her all along, I should've trusted...
>>99222492What's next, Mythos?
This thread is an interesting read. Repeated attempts to derail it into a hololive or niji argument. Suspicious. Also, why can't Brave just hire a lawyer to advise them on firing people? They seem to have made basic mistakes. Why do you pay severance to someone you're firing for an NDA breach? You give them accrued sick leave as required by law and nothing else.
>>99216564>>99216423Is Abi doing content again? Sorry but I just saw it now and I genuinely miss her, I thought she was just gone gone
>>99223096She'll debut in a kind of "brazilian vshoujo" in some months, her model is not ready yet, but she sometimes appear in her friend's stream
why can't corpos just fail gracefully mandramafags gonna feed on this and they'll want more
>>99208680Right after they start trying to push the image of their ceo on stream, glad I never believe he's good
>>99223160>a kind of "brazilian vshoujo"Grim
>>99221867ah, newfriends...all the "they replaced the voice actor!" shitposting you see on /vt/, and sometimes in chats?it comes from the few times JP companies have actually tried that shitthe game-bu incident was when Brave tried to pull it off
>>99216423>an opportunity I couldn’t refuse!
>>99224868>opportunity I couldn't refuseHaving a last video instead of imediate termination
>>99223591Thank you for explaining. That is some full-retard-level decision-making there. The model is just to catch attention; the person behind the model is the reason why anyone watches the people they watch (in the majority of cases, anyway.)
>>99222492She's fine, just going full on whore streaming now. Don't need a corporation sitting on your shoulder when you're just fingering yourself on stream for absolute dregs of humanity.
>>99211822>say someone sued for a large amount of money>continue saying it knowing it’s not true>lose case
>>99223524She was already fleshposting while in v4mirai, can't be any worse.
>>99225205She makes more money than Idol combined roru
>>99223454Noguchi seems to be like Tazumi in that he's hands off and smugly looking at profits without any care about PR until shit explodeswe might see a Noguchi apology video soon
>>99225556not noguchi, braveUS' CEO, referred as principal
>>99216423Did anyone screenshot the first post Abi deleted?
>>99223381>>99222852Can't wait for the bait threads
I found it funny that V4Mirais latest gen debuted and was immediately active or created new personas as a plan B, you really know that their senpais explained how shitty the company is and they should be ready to bail out
>>99225634Truly a Jira soundpost for every situation
>>99225585well one of Globie's top streamers held Noguchi in high regards bringing him up on streams too before suddenly graduating (which could've actually been a termination apparently) so I say it still applies
>>99225747none of them made alts, they're all pls
>>99210594because they go "Our company has 100 million views and 20 million subscribers!" to investors who dont care or understand that when you divide that over the number of talents they're all doing badbecause they dont care if the talents are doing bad, they care if they can make money for minimal effort
>>99224868>>99224953
Note to self: if Lisa, Menace, and Meru join your corpo, bad things will happen. These 3 bitches always bet on the wrong horse.
>>99225634maybe VSPO JP is an only branch that is safe?
>>99226400but how are the investors making their money back?
>>99222492She can't keep getting away with it.
>>99225116the truth is, it's all importantthe person and the model, and the group, and the audience, and the content directioneveryone who followed a vtuber from a PL knows this by now - things always changesometimes a little, sometimes a lotsometimes for the better, sometimes for the worsebut back then, vtubing was still pretty new, and what's known and well understood now just... wasn'tso JP corpos, being the retards in suits they usually are, thought they owned a far more important puzzle piece than they really hadso they would try stupid shit and get stupid results
There's one girl in v4 that cried in a members stream about the corpo fucking her over, her alt will debut in June
>>99225445Not that hard when almost everyone is demonotized.
>>99214489And VspoJP is the third biggest corpo.
>>99208680In the video put me you must, schizo parrot.
>>99225205>for absolute dregs of humanity.stop talking about yourself mozzu
>>99226779they dont want dividends they want growth, it's easier to do by just buying more companies. Growing the number of talents is infinitely easier than growing the talents numbers
>>99225205gonna need a link to that
>>99226779It's the classic VC strat of expand fast, go on the market and then dump the stock.
>>99209249>>99209263Asset hoarding vtubing models fucking hell is it actually this easy to grift VC retards even in the post-zero interest rate world?
>>99209715>are you really arguing that any talent should be free to completely abandon their corpo persona to spend all time on their PL while still getting paid because every few months they show back up there to say hi and end stream?If the corpo doesn't give them enough benefit to avoid using their PL account than it's a bad contract. Many vtuber companies use the Hololive business model while only giving a tiny fraction of the benefit. When a corpo owns the model than they are being asked to invest money into a character they don't own and will lose completely once they love the company. That is a mixed deal even in large companies but many of the smaller corpos barely make these vtubers into a 3view. Brave seems to have management that is even worse than Nijisanji so there is zero reason for vtubers to have any corporate loyalty.
Yena from Idol (owned by Brave)
>>99232213>my suffering was not fabricatedThat is a sentence. Wow.Sounds really metal if it weren't being said by an actual real person. As in, like, in a movie or said by an AI. Really bad and damning otherwise.
Is Dukeposter gonna deliver?
>>99231803Tourist, parrot has never covered brave drama and never will. And when doxxagi tried he failed hard and didn't have even half his fax correct. These dramaniggers can't be fucked to accurately report on anyone who's not holo or niji, which has let brave get away with way more than they should.
>>99232495>These dramaniggers can't be fucked to accurately report on anyone who's not holo or nijiyet they are modded and hangs out in phase connect chats and never reports about their yabsreally makes you think
>>99208680Wait until people learn V4M 3D is skinwalked
>>99232558Nobody cares about boyfriend connect. Neck yourself faggot, these brave girls are all suffering and you think we care about pagconnect
>>99232599Thsi is false, the girls have to take trips to LA all the time to record it
>>99232495After seeing how vitriolic + hostile the small corpo scene is towards journalism I honestly can't blame them. Last time someone tried reporting on corpo drama they ended up facing abusive death threats from a vtuber that decided it was appropriate and ok to sic their audience of thousands of their fans on them - just for doing basic journalism. Totally vile psycho behavior.
>>99232752I will bite. Kill yourself
>>99232752Dramafags deserve the death, I'm glad they're getting shit on
>>99232752That was 100% deserved, but if someone seriously timelined all of braves black behavior nobody would step up and defend them. Small corpo fans are in it for their girls, not the agency.Like it or not all the dramatubers are huge niggerfaggots and earned all their hate.
>>99224868painful
>>99232090>post-zero interest rate worldwe will retvrnS O O N
>>99232752she was a 2view, falsetranny
>>99232495>accurately report on anyone who's not holo or nijithey dont do it accurately for holo or niji either lol
>>99232752Dramamongering for clicks and doing things that the talents specifically asked not to do is not journalism. I sincerely hope you're one of these "journalists" and not one of their defenders or someone trying to bait, it's slimy either way.
>>99233338shit's so embarassing that they use /vt/ as their source
>>99232558it's almost like you dont care about the factsShiina modded Rima for a minute during a birthday stream so she could read her comments
>>99233557/vt/ is a giant tabloid, so thinking you can be a serious journalist is chuunibyou shit.
Women are lying whores, so I'll side with the corpo till I see more than just a bunch of words.
>>99234104Tabloid journalism is still journalism
>>99233644Why in God's name would anyone care what a dramafag has to say
>>99234233They gaslight people into thinking its not mukraking, that's why people don't like them.
>>99232642The lack of off-collabs screams skinwalkers
>>99234387they usually do spaces when they travel because they spend the whole day recording and in forced "networking mixers"
>>99232752>abusive death threatsevery single fucking time lmao
Can someone TL;DR this shit for me?
>>99233644That's such a stupid excuse.
>>99235154TL;DR readBrave US terminated one of the Idol managers, and tried to say that they broke an NDA, even though the didn't, and presented it as an resignation internally, even though it wasn't. She then asked for severance, because that's BS, and was told that if she spoke against them, they would take away severance if she spoke against them.She has recordings being sent to her legal council, and is likely going to sue.Also, don't attack anyone who isn't the upper management of Brave US.
>>99235154Brave is an unironic black company unlike Anycolor that is really dark grey
>Let Endless do shit that got them demonetized>Let Endless stream on RM accounts and mostly abandon their corpo personas>Cry about getting fired when you did a shit job
>>99238994>Let Endless do shit that got them demonetizedExcept it was multiple different Brave US vtubers who got demonetized, most of which she had nothing to do with>Let Endless stream on RM accounts and mostly abandon their corpo personasManagers don't write contracts, blame Brave US for offering them contracts to permit this activity
>>99238994all of BraveUS is using RM, not even just Idol
>>99208680I heard they censored really hard one of their loli model they adquired from Idol, it's that true?
>>99238994>bot your talents and lose your corpo and talent income>allow them secondary income>fire the only good manager in a shitty way and threaten herOhi ftfy
>>99238994fuck off brave glowie
>>99238994>Let Endless do shit that got them demonetizedYou mean get botted by their retarded senior management without their knowledge or consent? Who then feigned ignorance about it despite the leaks.>>Let Endless stream on RM accounts and mostly abandon their corpo personasYou mean what was explicitly allowed in their contract? As mismanaged as Brave is, I would have a lifeboat too.>Cry about getting fired when you did a shit jobLani was the only one who ever did anything for the talents at all, sometimes out of her own pocket.Kill yourself, bravecuck, your company is on the chopping block
It would be hilarious if Brave US were to fall before Brave EU.
>>99238994>bot your talents' streams>make your talent look like absolute morons by making them publicly complain on twitter for youtube to fix an issue where they actually acted *correctly*>leave several of your talents with severely handicapped incomes because of this>shocked when said talents start streaming on RM accounts again because that's the only way they can make a living
So both Abi and Lani were fired?
>/jidf/ melting down because Yuko is redebuting right nowPerfect timing lmao
>>99241727According to what they've said, yeah. Lani puts it down pretty straight, whereas Abi is much more vague, but alludes to her situation being similar to Lani's.
>>99208680holoshitshow deflection thread
>>99241727Yes, unless you somehow believe that Abi quit instantly on the spot without notice or a graduation stream because being in some upcoming noname br microcorp that hasn't even debuted yet was an unmissable job offer that she needed to urgently ditch everything to be a part of.
>>99241646Can't just be the botting. Nijis and Holos never get demonitised, and that schizo who hates /#/ bots them all the time.
>>99241727Abi had already alluded before to highups being rotten while the middle managers were good and she said her situation is similar, so yes>>99241949The "vshoujo" didn't even exist at that time, her friend only invited her because she's already out
>>99242031I still don't buy the botting theory cos jewtube never culled anyone's subs
>>99241646>>99242031>>99242248if it's botting, none of them would have gotten it back
>>99226779That’s the neat thing, they aren’t
>>99238994Actually nobody knows what caused the demonetization in first place, most of the newest Idol gen got theirs back last week and Alias from V4M who was demonetized ages ago for doing too much ASMR also got her monetization back last month.The rrat about it being because she encouraged everyone to basically drop their corpo persona makes sense but nobody can tell if it's true or not.In fact I think they just wanted to let her go because she was part of the Aviel era Idol management to replace her with Brave staff they can trust but didn't know how to go about it, but people just love jumping to the most complex schizo theories they can think of so the truth will never come out anyway.But like whatever, man. I was really looking forward to seeing Poko and Roca in 3D but I'm done caring about small corps.
>>99242472Parasitic cocksuckers are worse than landlords. Investors will ruin a business faster than any production or market fuckup.
>>99242472>>99243671>Ruin everything to make money>Doesnt actually make money, just ruins everything for nothing
>>99243444Very strange was that shortly after Juna left idol, she got demonetized out of nowhere as well. She was pretty much the first in idol. It took like 2 weeks for her to get it back. She made an appeal video for youtube, but before they even reviewed it she got monetization back. It was super strange.
>>99243762https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LcJjd6Wosw
>>99243817Katta also got demonetized a little before them
>>99243444it was the youtube AI generating false positives followed by the youtube AI randomly choosing who to remonetize
Tourist dramanigger holobronies don't even know the difference between sub bots and view bots. Classic.
>>99243444There basically aren't any small corps left.
>>99244011I forgot about Katta, yeah. Something was definitely up.
>>99222492KEK
>>99208680Gigi saw this trainwreak comming right away and that why she jumped to holo when she did
didn't v4mirai started doing more whore content around the time Biscotti gradarated? makes you think.
Lani getting canned was probably the reason for Pokos crying member stream a few weeks back. in that stream she said she didnt even have a manager at the moment to talk to.
>>99240060Yeah, they censored the crotch of Coni's new outfit. Another loli will debut her new outfit today, so everyone's on edge over that.
>>99222492i only know of coni when she shit on hasan once and talk about sam hyde.
>>99247836You want to know the funny thing? She was the runt in her gen.
>>99247947she laughing at them now while having sex with a autistic german girl in japan.
>>99240060>>99247877this doesn't make sense when Terra exists
>>99248058Different times, different standards. Brave never treated all of its subsidiaries equally.
>>99249612They're both under the same subsidiary, BraveUS and she's pretty new
>>99247499You don't need to have shit managers to want to 25x your earnings.
>>99209428sounds like effective talent manager to me
>>99240060https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9H2RjKtj-wEveryone is waiting to see how they gonna to ruin her
>>99247836They only stopped because Brave forced them to stop doing it because they got a Sanrio sponsorship.
>>99218526
>>99251129Mari stopped way before that due to youtube
inlukely they close shop so soon
>>99250984Did their Spanish branch just give up and move to English? Lol.
today i will remind them
>>99256257it was bound to happen, CCV alone doesnt bring food to the table. You want to have people that donates, Tier 1 GEOs countries fits that bill, while Tier 3 GEOs only works to bulk up viewer numbers.
>>99250984Yup, totally a debuff and censoring from brave
>>99249758Well, they censored it. /jidf/ is currently trying to cope, obviously. They don't even try to defend the design, they just try to peddle the false hope that "she can still go back to her original model" Kinda funny in a pathetic way.
>>99257827lmao, at this point make her wear a burka.
>>99257827...i like the new model. the old one was just plain coomerbait.
>>99232752Hanging and quartering all dramafaggots!
>>99257827Brave really hated the old cunny design, needed to be safe to stream in twitch
>>99257827>shitters spend weeks complaining that she's going to be censored>one of the first things she shows is this>S-SHUT UP SHE'S CENSORED I'M NOT LISTENING TO YOUNice take on an idol outfit while sticking true to her design preferences. Doesn't beat the old one but that's a very hard task anyway.
>>99258336She's supposed to be a fucking demon. This frilly shit maid design you see on a million other vtubers it works better on. I wouldn't want Lisa to give up her pretty dress for some sex laden bikini armor anymore than I would have wanted Koa to go prim and proper uwu maid.
>>99258655>one of the first things she shows is thisA totally covered tummy, showing how she is getting censored?Koa designed her old outfit, this new one is basically corpo safeslop
>>99258655See what I mean with coping spictards? >"But she gives us a tiny glimpse, guys! It's super lewd!"fucking kek
>>99258807>totally covered tummyOh my bad I didn't notice I was in a thread for blind people. ⠝⠊⠛⠛⠑⠗
>>99214923Yeah sorry I can't navigate her vods for shit all I know is that I clicked on it because henemimi is mono's RL friend for the last 15 jahrs and then mono was in ther with her mono voice talking with the girls but using her loli flat alt hopefully if she redebuts she makes Mono 2.0 because damn I love that fat titty chubby belly bikini DJ rave whore model.
>>99258655>shitters spend weeks complaining that she's going to be censoredNigger, look the original again, and look the new one >>99257827Feets? coveredTummy? coveredthighs? coveredThis model literally follow every single rules to safely stream in Twitch, that was the unique reason for this corpo slot
>>99259078>gets an idol outfit>hurr why does the idol outfit look more idol than the previous sexy demon outfit?>still insisting that the stomach area is covered while it's a semi-transparent criss-cross pattern with open sides and explicitly exposed bellybutton
>>99257827Question: did this chuuba at one point do a footcam stream where she gave a footjob to a lotion bottle?
>>99247947the power of the blue dorito. can turn any runt and small corpo failure who couldn't make it into a star
>>99258655yeah catalog monkeys are sure a funny bunch
>>99247947She was the only one who wasn't doing JOI in her members only streams and was doing normal variety streamer shit instead.
