Why does Gura STILL avoid Advent like Cover Corp skipped a gen?
>>99230751Advent is the most corpo "product" gen, Gura shudders at the very sight of them.
>>99231012Advent > Gura
>>99230751Gura knew Shiori was a ticking time bomb. She won't collab with them until they purge her from CGDCT
>>992307512022 was grim but gura got complacent and lived the prime NEET life of procrastination and laziness that the next new gen would be a constant reminder of her needing to be a senpai and going above and beyond her usual routine of staring at a wall for 10 hours a day and spending 3 hours slowly eating leftover mcdonald's. She threw FWMC a bone by casually referring to them in a holocure stream but that was mostly a courtesy shout out because of their extreme idol cute girl power level.Advent is/was also called the golden gen but part of that was because of the 2022 drought and anyone who debuted in EN3 would be hailed as saviors no matter what, perhaps gura felt like they didn't deserve it.
>>99231083>managements overshilled pet project gen made up of 5 people who collectively cant even get the same subs as Gura after 2 yearslol. lmao even
>>99231216Kronii is literally Gura's last link to hololive at this point
>>99231012>Shiori
>>99230751Because they’re the bootlicker Gen and sucks off management behind the scenes.
>>99231331And wawa, you tourist
>>99231331>>99231391Wrong, for some reason she likes justice (well half of it at least)
Biboo outstreamed her, that's probably why. Just a simple women moment.
>>99231310And yet they stream more per week than her yearly output, and have more music than Gura has done in 5 years.
>ShioriToo weird.>NerissaUtter wet napkin.>Biboo, FWMCToo aggressively corporate/numberchasing.
>>99230751Gura seems to like Nerissa and Mococo though.
>>99230751I'll say what I said in the other thread:Biboo is doing a members' only stream at the same time, Nerissa is busy doing studio work and spending all of her free time playing Cookie Run, FWMC are busy doing whatever random ass homework they accepted because they literally can't say no to anything and Shiori is Shiori
>>99231456>So much effort and still comes shortlol. lmao even harder
Fuwamoco also don't give a fuck about gura or holoEN, they only care about japan and japanese people and becoming biologically japanese and japan japan japan japanese penis and japanese semenNerissa is just kinda thereBijou is annoying and loud and her brainrot tiktok shit gets old fastShiori is a stupid nigger on purpose and just a fucking annoying person in generalThere's ZERO people in that gen that she gives a fuck about. Justice at least has an italian bimbo she finds amusing and a non-bitchy european. Kronii is still around and she likes her too, everyone else she liked graduated.
>>992314214 years of knowing wawa means nothing. You really are a tourist who doesn't watch streams. Grim.
>>99231630Like your weewee, lol
>>99231782
>>99230751She resents the favoritism Cover gives them after seeing the Council/Promise girls she likes be neglected.
>>99232012Can you name specific examples for how Cover gave Shiori or Nerissa favoritism?
>>99230751>Gura collabs with friends>Adventdicks start whining Look, Gura just wants to collab with her friends. That does not mean she hates advent, but to her they are just coworkers. Stop collab begging.
>>99232570>>99232537I wonder who makes this kind of threads every time
Advent gets a bad rep with rest of EN because they only want to push their group. They never try to include other members in their projects and get special treatment by management just look at how they got 2 covers with full mv on the main channel this year and Shibuya store
>>99231391>>99231331She likes CC more than any of them
>>99232012>She resents the favoritism Cover gives them after seeing the Council/Promise girls she likes be neglected.I don't think Gura has a problem with Advent but she knows they are close with management and that Biboo was 100% meant to be her replacement. Cover wanted to weaken Gura by reducing her fan base and there will definitely be another loli vtuber in EN5. Considering how messy things are with management it makes sense that she isn't doing more to hype up the newer gens.
>>99230751success breeds jealousy
>>99230751GURA FEARS ADVENT
>>99231012Seethe Mythboomer. Advent is SOVL
>>99231391>Kiara>Hololive
>>99231630You don't scare me at all CuckbudThis is Biboo's Hololive now. You do not belong here.
>>99234646kek I love this image
>>99230751Why would she collab with people who have almost negative chemistry with her?
>>99234589>>99234701BAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYSSSSSSSSEEEEEEEEEEEEDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
>>99234771I think her and Biboo would be fine. Nerissa is a toss-up, Shiori would be a bad collab partner, and FWMC are terrible with about 80% of EN.
>>99231012>Advent is the most corpo "product" gen,HoloX literally only exists to shill shit.
Advent as a whole was designed by management to be Gura 2.0, a way to move forward in both marketability and vtuber-mindshare when shark-girl retires. (Insert that Invincible meme) However they somehow botched the implementation or something and instead Gura hates them and refuses to politely pass the torch.
>>99234945Yes, and they and FWMC are one in the same.
>>99234945And now ShilloX is a disaster now kekAdvent fucking won bros
>>99235034Gura absolutely fears her especially.How does Shark feel that Hololive is all her's now?
>>99231012Product as in they actually stream?Product as in they financially out perform the others?Or product as in they produce covers?
>>99235034The only links you have for that is the general preferential treatment the unit as a whole and FWMC as an individual get, and that they fucked Irys over and didn't put a loli in Gen 2 but did in 3 with Biboo.
>>99235169They're the highest rated gen in term of CCV if you exclude Shiwhori
>>99235188OH YA BUBBLIN KWAB
what a very brown thread
>>99234945In EN then, whatever, splitting hairs. They probably wanted Council to be HoloX equivalent in EN, launching both gens fairly close to each other, and Council was supposed to have their meetings and all, but they severely fucked it up by handing the reins of the project to fucking Omega, who came up with all the retarded lore and shit. Council girls were fine, but it's also clear in hindsight that they were all better as individual talents and entertainers with different goals, but they failed as a group. Sana's departure and releasing homo gens right after only made it worse. Advent is another attempt at that shill gen, but this time they trained them for months to be a group and to shill all the stuff they get. In return they are being coddled as a gen by management. It's a fair trade for them, Advent as a gen is popular, even if it feels a bit artificial.
reminder that kfpcord is behind these threads
>>99235169Product as in endless shilling of Advent brand and merch.
>>99235343Nice projection SEAster. I am a 6'4" Scottish Chad
>>99231012FPBP
>>99234848Biboo would be the 2nd worst one of the gen.. Her whole shtick is loud=funny and tiktok brainrot, the only time Gura is loud is when she gets jumpscared in horror games. They both got their own audience, but I just don't see a collab between them ever working. I can see her collabing with GG way before than Biboo.
>>99235521Xhe's boilin KWAB
>>99231584>spending all of her free time playing Cookie Runbased
>>99235451Ok. Whats the problem with having nice things to buy and actual unit identity?
>>99233877Her and CC mesh surprisingly well. It might just be a CC thing since she can get along with pretty much anyone, but it was still nice to see.
>>99235521Cumbuds are literally Nijisisters at this point KEKAROO
>>99235647CC belongs to my wife, I wouldn't be surprised if CC hated collabing with that lazy whoreBabydoll mogs all of Gura's ships combined :^)
why are you guys false flagging as pebbles? what tf did she do to you? jesus christ man
>>99231784>4 years of knowing wawa means nothing.It means you develop a tolerance to her.
>>99235806BASED BASED BASED
>>99235741too obvious
Fuwazogo suck ass...
>>99235741You are trying too hard.
>>99234589>Advent>SOVLRemoves Shiori from picrel since it doesn't fit his narrative.
>>99233901Did she ever hype up the new gens?
>>99235451Yeah that's kind of their job? Go watch indies if that's your problem
>>99235595Technically nothing. It's just tiring.
>>99235982Myth has>Kiara:Narcissistic whorr>InaBoring whore>GuraLazy whore>AmeLying whoreTrade Mori (de facto Advent anyways) for Shiwhori and Advent is PVRE SOVL
How the fuck are there STILL Gura fans out there.... I don't get it. Even weirder than niji fans existing
>>99235683How? I didn't even say anything negative about Biboo. I said that they both have their audience, and I don't see a collab between them working because of their mannerisms/personalities.
>>99236095They're worse than Nijicucks at this point KEK
>>99235982Shiori might unironically be the most soulful Advent now.>deliberately off-putting>went mask off because she genuinely likes males
>>99234945Koyori is a more dynamic and creative streamer than any EN whore
>>99236115Gura fears someone more successful than her the past 2 years Cumbud
gets some new fucking materialholoan are the least creative faggots aliveAT LEAST BE FUNNY
>>99236160OH NO NO KOYOKEKS WHAT DO WE DO NOW
>>99235169>Product as in they financially out perform the others? Literally, the only ones that outperform anything are Fuwamoco.
What happened in Nijisanji this week?
>>99236248AIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>99236248She MC'd a baseball tournament. The horror
>>99236248Professional collab? Yeah I'm thinking pure idol
>>99236190Ok. I should've realized who was baiting me with the first reply. You aren't even trying to be subtle..
>>99234589TEAMTOMODACHI
>>99236235We're cleansing Hololive from whores. We're not Holoan, we're protecting Hololive from lazy duplicitous whores.
>>99236095Because at her peak she was cute and entertaining, and that peak was so high it has enough residual momentum to carry her popularity along years later. Advent, on the other hand, will probably not fare so well. Some of them already suffered quite a bit of mindshare just by going offline for a week or two (tummy hort).
>>99236306>>99236309And it's with a male. She's a whore KEK>>99236334Seethe harder Cumbud
holy shit every single shitposting schizo joined up in this thread
>>99236248>muh malesDumb unicorn.
>>99236455So? No one watches JP anymoe. We know they're the most pozzed branch in Hololive
>>99231341Wait until you realize how many JPs are crazy/stream with guys.
>>99236248Sex with Shiina.
>>99236481One of the worst falseflag attempts I've seen. Post a picture of your hand with timestamp
>>99236523This. There's a reason why no one watches them. The nucleus of VTubing is the West for a reason. It's our hobby now.
Advent definitely attracts lot of mentally unwell individuals both fans and antis for some reason
>>99236545>falseflag attemptsAnd you're alone, Last Samurai KEK
>>99236309JPcucks are so cucked
>>99236581>Advent definitely attracts the gatekeepers of VTubing away from menheras, whores, and cucksFTFY Sister
>>99236581Yes, unicorns are mentally unwell
>>99236309You're a cuck
The state of this thread answers OP's question fairly well.
>>99236682You're a cuck
>>99236793Didn't ask for your opinion cuck.Gura will be forgotten Day 1 after graduation. She hasn't contributed shit to Hololive. Biboo has a chance to become the true face of Hololive right now. JP is dying, Gura is going, Biboo has the highest CCV in Hololive outside Miko's botted streams. This is Biboo's Hololive, deal with it, cuck.
>>99236858BAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYSSSSSSSSEEEEEEEDDDDDDDDD
>>99236858Don't forget to cross-post it to global
>>99236858>comparing the most popular vtuber ever Miko to some botted ENwhore bibotsLmao pathetic shart
egguardo why haven't you kys yet? all these shitposts won't stop you from being a perma virgin fat balding homunculus
>>99236793they're very obviously falseflag shit
>>99235922QRD?
>>99237022Been natty a whole month now 35PissWhy do you fear my wife monopolizing the JP mindshare away from your fleshy collabing whore?
>>99237227>natty>still gets filtered by vstats/vrabi>gets sub 10k stream when she's not getting bottedLmao
>>99237227yeah going after miko is very believable anon
>>99233901>Cover wanted to weaken Gura by reducing her fan baseWhy would Gura care about her fanbase? She had already burnt out before Advent debuted
>>99230751It's not just Gura.
>>99230751I dunno but I suspect it's due to her social autism/fear of social interactions. Something tells me all the people she interacts with had to initiate contact. With Kiara this is confirmed.
>>99232012Is it really favoritism when they keep performing their duties with zeal and talent?
>>99236153>she genuinely likes malesAnd I'm a male, so I'm ok with this arrangement.
>>99231782Hi Gura. Stop being a cunt and stream.
>>99235993Gura did a lot to help Council when they debuted while she mostly ignored Advent. There was a lot of behind the scenes fights going on with management that explains that but they did start to view newer gens as competition. They were always competing with each other but that was more noticeable with Advent since casual vtuber fans aren't going to buy 10+ memberships during a recession.>>99237866>Why would Gura care about her fanbase?She definitely knows that her frequent breaks are causing her to lose fans but that is why Gura keeps throwing out crumbs of hope that things will improve after the release of her 2 year project. After 3 years though it's obvious things are not going well. The recent graduations have only made it clear that many talents don't like the direction of Hololive regardless of what they say to viewers.
>>99239589>They were always competing with each otherNot how it works at all actually
>>99239589Wasn't the blue homo suspended for talking about the lack of support by the company?
Seems to me more like Advent is separating themselves from the rest of EN
>this thread
Gura will time her graduation announcement to overlap Biboo's birthday 3D
>>99230751Because advent is everything she tried to avoid and become.They're nothing but soulless husks designed to print money and shill soulless shit to you. The onlyone you can trust to not be a soulless shill in that gen is shiori. And everyone here hates her over their cuckold fetish.
I like Shiori, but she's not my oshi.
>>99236858Holy BASED
Wait, Miko collabs with males? When did this happen?
>>99240665That's going to be kinda hard since Biboo isn't having a birthday 3d live this year.
>>99244612She used to collab with males very early on before hololive got big.
>>99230751Maybe they're all assholes.
>>99231518Biboo is definitely not corporate. She's just family friendly, yet even she still makes plenty of yabai jokes.
>>99232570It's been almost 2 years since Advent debuted now, yet the only new gen members that she's ever held 1-on-1 collabs with are Ceci and Raora. She's still allergic to Advent for some reason. The AmeSame Spelling Bee is the only time she's ever interacted with Advent.
>>99248247>she still makes plenty of yabai jokes
>>99235683>>99235741>>99235150>>99236122>>99236190>>99236858Can we plz for the love of God stop using Biboo as the hammer to beat down her own friends. She'd fucking hate this and it easily make us pebbles the most cancerous fanbase in the company. If you wanna push her to graduate early just so that her friends can finally left alone by your insufferable asses, this is the easiest way to do it. Plz kindly fuck off.
>>99248054Biboo is genuinely one of the sweetest people in the entire vtubing industry. Wtf are you on?
>>99231012Maybe she shouldn't go indie then if she hates corpo products.
>>99230751My guess is all of EN, including the homos, were trying to negotiate better contracts and maybe even unionize, but then Advent came along and agreed to the standard contracts so it killed any chances they had of negotiating better terms. Gura is the biggest cash cow so it makes sense that she would be the most upset at how much money they cost her. Would also explain why the homos suddenly got pissy and left around the same time, and why others are leaving once their existing contracts are up.
>>99248718real pebbles don't do "holo vs holo" narratives, they're busy watching streams and loving biboo. this (samefag) is a shitposting third worlder who wants to stirr shit up
>>99250013Why does this rrat sound so accurate
>>99250483>"fans" being the most toxic as possibleIt's haters trying to make the fanbase look bad
>>99236248>shitposting with tenkaijiholy newfag
>>99230751Raora organized the collab and she probably just asked anyone, go ask them why they didn't join
>>99250206That's the same for 98% of every other fanbase as well. Be it Chumbuds, Pebbles or any other. Of course there are some bad apples everywhere, but the shit we see /here/ daily is mostly just dramafags and shit stirrers.
>>99230751>collab begging with males:(>collab begging with Advent:)
>>99230751because advent is the worst gen? it's not complicated.
>>99236122>>99236190>>99236391>>99236618Hmmm
>Everyone thought ruffians would be the douchebag fanbase of Advent>It wound up being pebbleHonestly the shameless botting was already a huge red flag
>>99252141Ruffags have a different kind of problem.
>>99250013So advent basically destroyed HoloEN? I believe it.
simple, Advent wouldn't have a great dynamic with Gura on 1-on-1 collabs>FWMC's commitment to kayfabe would make her cringe to no end>same with Biboo's brainrot humor>Shiori is too weird>Nerissa could go either way, but it wouldn't be anything special
>>99252141Ruffians are nice nowadays. All their cancerous numberfag fans moved on to Biboo.
>>99250013Yup. Explain fauna leaving and having debut merch ready to ship. Looks like they weren't making millions like this board think they do. Most of their income comes from merch sales and even then they're still being paid in yen. To girls living in Canada or the us that's equivalent of being paid in Mexican pesos which isn't much. Morons on this board see 25,000 yen as standard monthly salary and automatically assume is 25,000 dollars in usd currency
You guys are trying to argue with the filipindian. It's just a waste of a thread.
>>99255629Yen in India and sea must be worth a lot then lol if that what gave them the idea of these girls becoming millionaires. Gura and maybe mori are unironic millionaires due to their success. The rest? They can only hope to make at least 2 quarters of that.
>>99256093Typo the yen must worth a lot
>>99252141kys fag diamond dogs golden
>>99252625Shiori can't stop talking about dicks and sex which is unironically why she gets along better with the homos than the girls.
>>99230751She's just very shy, which is why the circle of people she collabs with hasn't seen any real growth since Council despite the fact that literally everyone thinks Gura's cute and they want to spend time with her.
>>99235465Post hands
>>99230751Don't worry unicorn. Gura will collab with ur advent oshi's. Ur very ... passionate.
>>99262197Unicorns be writhing
>>99251726uh oh browncord tranny melty
>>99252141>>99252308this is what happens to your brain when your diet consists of eating soup made from trash and fecesyikes!
>>99236858Stop falseflagging as a biboo fan ty.
>>99231012what does this even mean?
have you ever seen advent? they're autistic as shit.
>>99231310... neither did council after 2 years.
>>99263771it's brown tranny gibberishthere's no point in trying to understand it since logic isn't what drove that subhuman to make that postyou're better off just calling him a shitskin
>>99250773Kaiji has always been an annoying nijilite and he's insufferable in KSon's streams
