Post anything related, i'm trying to build a good collection of the stuff.
Gotten far along enough in organizing my job that we're doing the "march on the boss" step of unionization next week as a show of force. He's not going to know what hit him.
>>8053146Damn that sounds based as fuck, can you tell us more? Don't have anything to contribute sadly
>>8053146good fucking job anon, don't let the big guy exploit you or your fellow workers and be aware of the dirty tactics they will try to use to deunionize the staff and be prepared
>>8053129But that's a photo of a Kazahstan city that became an ecological hellhole during the soviet reign. It's almost completely communist apart from the mural that could only be made after the collapse of the Soviet Union and dissolution of party censorship.The worst thing I could wish you is that you get to live in a communist country one day. I just hope I wont be there to see it.
>>8053274>an ecological hellhole during the soviet reign>industrialization = badIndustrialization is not inherently bad, the city was built during Soviet times and was and still is a very strong and economic sector in Kazahstan. The difference is that before the resources went to the people as it was needed and now the resources go to the few Indian corpo-rats that own the Industry.
>>8053146inb4 he fires all your sorry asses on the spot for attempting to bully him with your bullshit commie-wannabe politics, which I sincerely hope he does to teach you a life lessonalso inb4 the whole "oh but unions are innocent and only there to protect the workers from being taken advantage of.."fact is, unless you live in some despotic tyrannical second/third world shithole where all workers generally tend to have zero fucking rights, the chances are pretty good that you and your colleagues already have a whole bunch of perfectly good employment protections to fall back on without the need to form yet another pointless, unnecessary, likely largely corrupt, union that ultimately mostly won't be used to defend workers rights but will instead be used as a means to1: attempt to demand/extort through the use of strike action increasingly more pay from your employer on a regular basis, regardless of whether you actually deserve a pay raise or not2: act like a mafia-style organisation that actively tries to prevent anyone not in the union from being able to work any of the roles the union "protects" in that geographic location; don't think it'd happen? look at most of the major cities in the U.S., where folks just peacefully trying to work for themselves quickly get threatened and abused by the local union/teamster mob with the option of either joining them or paying them off, or risking having some kind of 'accident'unions just suck, they go on strike to fight 'the man' but all they actually do is actively fuck up the lives of ordinary folks just trying to go about their day in peace, whether it's striking train/bus drivers forcing good people to go through literal hell trying to get to/from work/school/whatever via public transport, or it's doctors/nurses actively putting patients lives at risk by standing on the picket line instead of being in the hospital/clinic doing their job, or firemen going on strike rather than putting out fires and saving lives
>>8053274>The worst thing I could wish you is that you get to live in a communist country one day. I just hope I wont be there to see it.I hope we don't see 'it' either, but unless Trump and the republicans outright win this coming November election the whole world's sadly gonna be living 'it' shortly thereafter and for many decades to come too, because just as Uncle Yuri predicted about 40 years ago, unlike during the cold war era when the soviets occupied eastern Europe, during which time many folks from Russia and those other soviet-controlled nations, including Yuri himself, went to extreme lengths to try to escape that tyranny, this time round there won't be ANYWHERE in the world that's safe from the tyranny that anybody could escape to.This is why the blob/swamp are so desperately hellbent on doing everything they can to shut Trump down short of completely martyring him by going all JFK on him, because they can't complete the setup for their little global commie tyranny if he's sat in the white house while the republicans run both the house and senate, because that situation would then buy four more years of time for the people of all nations to stand up and remove all of their own corrupt commie-wannabe wef/soros-sponsored self-serving bureaucrats from power.>>8053333And yet Kazakhstan's still a mostly communist-controlled nation, so why aren't they protecting their 'workers' per the communist ideology?Perhaps it's because communism is in fact a massive fucking lie, where it's not actually about the rights and welfare of 'the people' at all, instead it's all about the communist party exercising extreme control OVER the people to increase the personal wealth and life enrichment of the 1% at the top of the partyBecause that's the true reality, and nightmare, that is the communist utopia... and yet stupid clueless people in the west keep believing the decades old, thoroughly refuted, propaganda about the communist utopia and then keep voting for it
>>8053376>unions are not needed because workers already have perfectly good employment protectionsNo, that's why Unions are made, if the employer actually did things right for its workers there wouldn't be any need for them, but the "Man" only has the profit incentive. Unions are and have been an important part of workers rights you fucking retard. You enjoy those safety handrails and work facilitated tools and uniforms? Thank Unions for that, bitch.>Unions act like Mafia because they ask for moneyUnions actually take references from the current markets on their sector and the living costs on their respective countries, asking for a liveable wage where the Corporation still benefits anyways.>They fuck up the ordinary folk trying to go about their day in peaceHow dumbass? Getting them more rights and benefits? Unless you mean the corporates which, yeah, maybe they won't be able to aford another private jet or another ludicrously expensive car.Anyways, how's the boot tasting?
>>8053379>another American that thinks Democrats = Communismman, it's so funny to hear Americans talk about Communism when their entire school system failed to teach them politics. (On purpose of course)>Kazakhstan is a mostly communist controlled nationWhere motherfucker? Where the fuck can you find in current day Kazakhstan any resemblance of a Communist government? The current ruling party is specifically Economic Liberalist since 1999>the irony of talking about the 1% in communismI'm just out of words for this one, the joke writes itself
>>8053381>>8053384oh look another useful idiot who believes everything his modern liberal/leftist/commie-wannabe democrat-supporting teachers/professors spoonfed him about geopolitics and historyi suppose you also believe in the myth of the socialist utopia too...>Unions actually take references from the current markets on their sector and the living costs on their respective countries, asking for a liveable wage where the Corporation still benefits anyways.it's not that unions ask for/demand/extort 'payments' from non-union members, it's that they do it at all, and the manner in which they often do so, that makes them mafia-esque; also if you're gonna quote something to try and analyse it, actually quote it, don't be intellectually dishonest and paraphrase it out of context>How dumbass? Getting them more rights and benefits?How is it benefitting the public when their houses burn down because unionised firemen were on strike, when they have their life-saving surgeries/procedures postponed or cancelled because unionised doctors and nurses were on strike, when kids of all ages are forced to stay home and not learn anything because teachers went on strike, when folks lose their jobs because they couldn't get to work because the bus/train drivers went on strike?So no, unions are nothing but a blight on society, a cancer that should be eradicated once and for all. >I'm just out of words for this one, the joke writes itselfwhat part of 'communism is a massive lie' was confusing to you? you seriously think the party elites at the very top live the same way the average worker does? You can't be that fucking deluded, surely.>Anyways, how's the boot tasting?I've no idea, but if you keep believing the leftist horseshit you've been taught, and voting democrat accordingly, you'll find out soon enough what it is to have a jackboot standing on your neck, hopefully by then you'll have just enough time left to remember this thread and how wrong you were
>>8053577>Unions are mafias because they demand stuff and can go on strike if these are not metI mean... sure, you expect them to act all hippie-like? I'll give you an example>an employer fires a pregnant co-worker for the dumbest of reasons as to not pay for maternal leave>workers get madso instead of striking they should just let that happen? Think that's fair?>achtually you're intelectually dishonest because where's the quotations im too lazy to research??Well, it comes from first hand experience as in my country (European) we have the entire metallurgic sector Unionized, they do research on these topics and ask for an adequate and minimum pay for their respective jobs and usually get in agreements with the employer.>still not getting the irony in the statementok so, you're talking about the government controlling the masses, however you're against Unions and you're fine with the Burgeoise powers controlling their workers in any way, even if they circumvent legal loopholes and such, because companies are very trustworthy with little profit incentive!I'm also guessing that you completely reject the idea of a government and you fantasize about a distopic anarco-capitalist state.>about the "1%"ok, so we're talking about a government controlled Communist economy.In a Socialist economy the means of production would fall into the ownership of the workers/state and they'd use those resources to distribute it across the country as is needed. Government officials (or as you call them, the 1%) might enjoy a lot more benefits due to their position, sure, but they should work in the interest of the people and of course, the hoarding of wealth in a Communist/Socialist state would be impossible, thus making the "1%" in this case non-existant as there's no real hoarding of wealth.TL;DR the 1% is about the hoarding of wealth and resources, not "RICH PEOPLE EXIST!!!111!">that flaglol communist Peru
>>8053637>>an employer fires a pregnant co-worker for the dumbest of reasons as to not pay for maternal leave>>workers get mad>so instead of striking they should just let that happen? Think that's fair?That would be considered a form of (sexual) discrimination for which (in most sensible countries) there are literally already employment laws in place that protect the employee's rights against unfair dismissal in that exact situation amongst many others>ok so, you're talking about the government controlling the masses,No, that would be a socialist/left-wing government thing, that's what I'm arguing against>I'm also guessing that you completely reject the idea of a government and you fantasize about a distopic anarco-capitalist state.No, I'm all for the true historical conservative form of government in which the government and related civil service (bureaucracy) stays as small as possible and makes only as few laws as is pragmatically necessary to actually protect the welfare and basic rights of the general public while also ensuring the safety, prosperity, and growth of the country as a whole, while additionally making sure that the government/bureaucracy itself doesn't actively start to interfere with and/or erode their citizens welfare and basic rights due to ideological corruptionYou know, political corruption, like a government making pointlessly ridiculous so-called 'hate speech' laws that have almost nothing to do with stopping the fallacy that is 'hate speech' and everything to do with the corrupt government increasingly trying to silence anyone the government finds politically inconvenient, as opposed to actual free speech where the only restrictions to what anyone can write/say are existing common sense laws against libel, slander, and direct calls for violent actionAlso, despite the deliberately obfuscating labels, mostly political anarchists are also to be found somewhere out on the far left-wing... just saying
>>8053637>ok, so we're talking about a government controlled Communist economy.Very good, glad to see you're paying at least some amount of attention here.>Government officials (or as you call them, the 1%) etc. etc.Spoken like someone who has obviously never lived under a commie regime, but who, as a younger person, was clearly spoonfed a bunch of stereotypical commie propaganda by their professors, professors who also very likely never ever set foot in a commie-controlled nation much less lived in one for any extended length of time, or maybe they did but became so brainwashed by the ideology while trying to keep their intellect under the radar so as to not require 're-education' that they actually came to believe that commie horseshit was a good thing in any way, shape, or form.>lol communist PeruAnd just as you were showing signs of potential too, you quickly throw it away. Maybe you should go back and ask your professors to teach you how to actually read; maybe then you'd be able to read and understand the filename of 'that flag' so that you could see it's clearly not aimed at Peru; that being said about the only good thing to come out of Peru in the last 70 years or so was a bear in a funny hat with a penchant for marmalade sandwiches, so maybe I should make Peru a new flag too when I get a free moment.
>>8053146>boss catches wind>drug tests everybody>all of the lefty retards get fired because they're all degenerate potheadsI have personally seen this happen twice
Unlike most western communists I actually worked a union job once. On one hand I made more then minimum wage for a piss easy job. On the other they took 10% of my paycheck and once I stopped working there they demanded I pay 80 dollars for the jacket they provided me that I never returned. According to my co-workers with more experience this was a particularly good union though. And to be fair I was getting paid 50% over minimum wage to literally stand around and do nothing all day.
>>8053195>>8053194Keeping things vague but I'm working at an entity with some unionized sections and a large one that was not. The top boss announced something that would fuck over tons of us, then said in the same speech that this did not apply to the unionized workers. He was actually retarded enough to say that. We went from small steady growth to exponential growth overnight. The protest we concocted was successful beyond my expectations. The boss was so shook he hired some private security goons to follow him around 24/7. Two of the goons were retarded enough to do some Pinkerton-style illegal activities against a union supporter and not realize she was recording it (single party consent state) at the time. That was given to relevant state and federal authorities + journalists and the boss received some informative letters from lawyers. There are other positive developments, and I've connected with some other fellow commies in the process. We're winning. It feels fantastic.
Can't have communism without freedom
>>8053333>>industrialization = badYes
These are socialist Papers, Communism never lasts long enough to be recorded.
>>8054439>>8054439>took the Peru bait like a champhahah lmao>in most sensible countries that doesnt happendesu this guy doesnt know about class wars and how these countries became more "sensible" with socialist policies as time went on thanks to the workers struggles>spoken like a...>you were probably raised by...>ahh you havent been in...wrong wrong wrong my dude, i was raised in a conservative right-wing family and i love them, my teachers were also quite right wing (most of them) and i'm a straight white male too (just in case you were going to throw around the race card lol), however i do like to read and i made up my own opinions with research and my own moral-compass.why do rightards make these absurdist claims when they run out of arguments?Sorry but you're not the "Enlightened genious" you think you are, specially when your ideology is the dominant one>glad you're paying at least some amount of attention here.I was spoonfeeding you my ideology and setting up the stage. Now show me you're paying attention too. What is the difference between Socialism and Communism?
>>8054707Socialism is a transient stage towards True Communism (a stateless and classless society) ergo Socialism is also a part of Communism
>>8054729Marxian propaganda definition based on dogmatic grand narratives
>>8054851you guys should have a debate about this shit.
>>8053129A picture says a thousand words. Mainly about how retarded you are for posting this in a thread that is supposed to be "Anti-Capitalism".
>>8055448fuck man, you got me good, this picture that was taken in a capitalist country depicting some individuals with ties representing businessmen dancing around a polluting chimney is not anti-capitalist at all. how could i be so retarded?
>>8053129lmao who would want to live in that shithole
reminder, communists are genocidal faggots. theyll say whatever they need to say to gain power, then theyll kill you and steal all your stuff. communists arent people, killing them is not a sin.
>>8054726"wrong wrong wrong""here's why you are right actually"a true delusionite lmfaoyour the type of guy at the start of the dunnce-kruger bell curve and you cant even see your own contradictions lmfao
>>8054654>>8053146rough time at the photocopying store fellas, stick to the man lol!
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>>8053376TL;DR faggot
commie scum, you will end up facing the wall you fuckin faggots. kys.
