>>5668835
>>5668836
neat, I live close enough to a base that I'll probably get to see the flashes when they fall

>>5668840
source?

>>5669209
Sum of All Fears (2002), based on a Tom Clancy novel

>>5669209
>neat, I live close enough to a base that I'll probably get to see the flashes when they fall
i always wondered how fucked the guys manning these silos would be in an actual full scale nuclear exchange. its probably an easy decent paying job with 99.9% chance nothing will ever happen during your entire career in the air force, but if shit kicks off, and you actually get an order to fire your missiles from your underground control station , what do you do next? is it just assumed that even if you have enough warning time to launch the ICBMs for your silos, a few minutes after that you're going to either die (at best) or get buried into an underground tomb (at worst) when the enemy ICMBs hit you, unless you win the lottery and you don't get targeted/the incoming missile fails etc? would the crew try to escape right after the launch? or maybe before launching? hmmm

>>5669242
It must be terrible being the one having to turn the key

>>5669242
>i always wondered how fucked the guys manning these silos would be in an actual full scale nuclear exchange.
It really depends. Countries with highly developed arsenals and tactics have, generally, graduated approaches to nuclear warfighting. In simple terms, you don't start from 11, but go up or down -- like an escalation ladder. You're wanting 'win' at a minimum cost to your counterforce (nuclear forces) and countervalue (cities and everything else). Two advanced NWSs will continue to exchange in waves until the war's termination is agreed between them -- this is why you don't specifically target the NCA/legitimate leadership, because you need someone to negotiate with.

>what do you do next?
If you're "lucky" and your silo wasn't destroyed you wait until radiation levels subsided, maybe two or so weeks. You can emerge and find new orders. Not that you'd probably care at that point. There's escape hatches built into the silos.

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>>5669762
Guess it's just who you are

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>>5669242
Do you think they get to browse the internet? Would be the worst job ever if you just had to sit on your ass all day doing absolutely nothing waiting for something that won't happen.

>>5669233
>Sum of All Fears (2002), based on a Tom Clancy novel
The DVD commentary for this movie is hilarious, Tom Clancy is with the director and Clancy is shitting on the movie the entire time. He really hated the aircraft carrier scene because it wasn't in the book since it's unrealistic and stupid for the Russians to be able to find the carrier, let alone get anywhere close to it like that

>>5670443
Fyi modern nukes don't produce much radioactive fallout. You want to get ground troops in there sooner, not later.

>>5670967
I dont get it

>>5671203
That doesn't just depend on the weapon, but at what altitude it explodes -- so for air-burst? Yes. For ground-burst? No.
If you're a missileer, you're almost certainly going to be experiencing ground-bursts.

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>>5668835
Except in the present day, when this has become (maybe) an issue again, you have a bunch of diversity hires, women and jews (who have significant ethnic tensions against Russia) "manning" these response teams
Though, if Russians have investments in America and Americans have investments in Russian countries, the threat is reduced

>>5670917
wtf

>>5670787
what klauskino is this from?

>>5668839
>B-B-Baltimore??? My god I'M IN BALTIMORE
hollywood cracks me up

>>5672196
>modern electronic components
lul

>>5672213
Cool It with The antisemitic remarks

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>>5669242
the actual command bunkers aren't that close to the silos. there's also multiple crews in multiple bunkers controlling the same field. they're all stocked with food, water, sanitation, medical supplies and some entertainment for a few months so if they do survive, they can wait out the residual radiation until it becomes "safe" enough to try one of their emergency exits, or they wait it out for rescue.

>>5671203
if you're attacking silos, you're doing ground bursts which produce significant amounts of fallout compared to air bursts

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>>5671212
Underground testing

>>5670787
a sound of thunder?

>>5672187
>>>5676623

>>5672196
jewish war crime btw. Yes Whites dropped it but they were commanded to do so by jews.

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>>5676624
thanks

>>5669762
That's basically the premise of the movie Wargames. Nobody actually wants to turn the key so they put an AI in charge.

>>5674139
beepbbeepbeep

WTF
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOmaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

>>5668835
Source
>>5670950
Source>>5670950

>>5680162
https://youtu.be/TDT4nzTrTsk

>>5668836
I laughed everytime one of those pugs got glassed, they'd understand too if they knew their kids were gonna be commie faggots and trannies.

>>5672227
I love how Best Korean music sounds straight out of a late-80s/early-90s anime. This wouldn't be out of place in DBZ.

>>5670917
This interpretation is pretty far off BTW. The whole "lead ball/evil fire" thing is actually just talking about a "basket" and a "flying scroll". This dude is purposely making it sound like an ICBM lol

>>5668835
What movie?

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>>5681131
This guy does a better job at explaining how the mistranlations happened:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETvQ2YpaRAU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FwRQmb4SIk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6XreWMcFjY
But yeah, Zechariah was 100% describing nuclear weapons, but he was limited on his understanding, so a heavy metal like plutonium was interpreted as lead (heaviest metal they knew of at the time).

>>5681228
first strike 1979, it was funded by the department of defense due to anxiety about relaxing nuclear war preparedness levels and used actual US military personel, some of the scenes got sampled in
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Day_After

>>5680927
>nuclear winter is a theory
>yep let's take the unknown but significant chance of 95% of the entire world being wiped

>>5680927
This entire thread: US Kikes and "Russian" kikes: "Let's you and him fight!" LOL.

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>>5677033
yeah but let's be honest, Japan deserved it. they were gettin REAL spicy and wouldn't back down, this was basically the only way to save thousands of americans from dying needlessly in human wave attacks on tiny islands.

>>5681935
>yep let's take the unknown but significant chance
lmao, more like zero chance. Nuclear winter is a meme, nothing more.

>>5681922
Song?

>>5668835
>>5668836
If this were demonstrably possible it would have been a moral obligation for the Soviet Union (or United Kingdom) to have done so.

The simplest answer is that this was not possible to do. Probably due to the poor quality of Soviet attack submarines.

>>5683741
The Cure - M
https://youtu.be/aR_ZKQ-56-Q

>>5671309
Is there a good documentary in English? I loved watching everything of the AT&T archives about American BMD and I think it would be cool to see the Russian stuff.

>>5672221
this is true kino

>>5677033
They were an anti-white anti-western power whose generals wrote books about genociding the whites in North America, retarded mutt faggot.

>>5670926
they probably get to visit a mirrored version of the web
as soon as they request data from a server via http the gatekeeper system of the military intelligence service pulls a copy on display that the isolated high value intelligence target (guy working the nuke keys) will use without knowing that its not the outside version
in case someone goes postal and shitposts something too sensitive they can prevent it and issue some plausible 404 error page or for example freeze the computer/phone/laptop forcing a reboot faking a technical malfunction
same principle as they basically dont 1:1 livestream high sensitivity events on tv anymore and why even live takes on studio are buffered for three minutes or so to be able to prevent some newsanchor anheroing live on primetime for example
there is no reason the beforementioned should not and does not exist, just common sense from the perspective of somebody(the system) who has got to lose a lot

>>5670950
I've watched this a few times. And each time I wonder: What are the seatbelts for?
Is there actually a reasonable chance of getting hit without being incinerated and you want to keep them in their seats so they can continue?
Is it in case they start shaking in terror?

>>5683335
Look we know you hate Russia because they wouldn't let your ancestors poison the serfs with liquor, but it doesn't mean you need to wipe out humanity

>>5681832
>1:58
oh
oh no

>>5690643
https://youtu.be/DlZXmYGpHDQ?t=587

>>5690656
Thanks anon

>>5690663
Sure thing, I didn't know either so it's nice to find out

>>5682081
>>5682084
just watched the first webm then the whole film, fucking kino

>>5690656
Imagine being on the toilet when the order came through to launch your nukes, that would be my luck

>>5690698
Think about it this way, it's the best possible opportunity to shit yourself when the order comes through.

We simply shouldn't have this kind of power. Fucking stupid apes will destroy all life in the universe.

>>5690691
Watching it rn, great stuff so far

>>5679976
Kek

>>5672199
Fake and gay

>>5681923
Hollywood is Hollywood, but no one can deny Dr. Strangelove is kino.

>>5677033
>the Jews made me do it
4Cheetos has reached levels of cope we never imagined.

>>5672219
most tasteless thing I've seen on 4chan today, and that's saying something!

>>5693095
yeah I liked it too

>>5677033
Truman was jewish?

>>5693111
>thinking 4chan falls for the shabbos goy face they put up front

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>>5672221
unique video.

>>5690656
I went to a soviet one in Ukraine, similar set up but the soviet one was far comfier, the chilli out zone toilet, bed etc was downstairs and the whole section for the guys working, was in a separate silo, like a big horizontal train carriage, sat on huge springs, with about 7 levels. The bottom level was the sleeping quarters, had a TV in it, and it looked just like a sleeping compartment on a soviet train

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>>5678996
"Brighter than the sun!"

I had a dream that was a life that was a nightmare, a thousand swirling stones, swirling lives, swirling dreams, swirling nightmares. My live within a dream, within a swirl, within a life, within a stone

Fuck all this hollywood fake shit.
French tests in the pacific were kino

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>>5696872
retard

>>5668835
Cool thread.

>>5668835
Bump.

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Wrong order bottom one comes first

>>5668836
>>5668835
While the Soviet Union and United States certainly could have launched a first strike against each other inflicting a lot of harm and hindered a retaliation, both countries' fleets of ballistic missile subs make eliminating an opponents ability to retaliate next to impossible. That still holds true today. The US also stationed missiles in allied NATO countries like West Germany. Additionally the Soviets stationed missiles in Kaliningrad. That means both countries would have to target those missiles sites too which would give away their attack on mainland targets and give their opponents enough time to launch a counter attack.

>>5672196
I wonder how much the pilots knew about the bomb before they deployed it and how they felt after they realized the devastation it caused.

>>5703032
Lol, do you need to be a fucking retarded cunt to get a job with the state dept? This nigas iq must be below 40

>>5704266
They didn't give a fuck at all, they interviewed them years later and no-one of them cared, very American attitude literally clueless. But this is the great divide, they never suffered two world wars so have no concept of what that costs and what that created

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>>5704266
They were probably happy it went off and that Japan surrendered before millions more people had to die from a US invasion of the mainland

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>>5704483
here's a longer version with multiple blast wave angles

>>5690476
That would mean you would need a guy on a workstation monitoring what each person is doing online so they can intervene within 3 minutes ? And don't websites require upload data from the user in real time

>>5680162
Hey, I went to this exact silo and went on that exact tour! I live in Worst Dakota so it just made sense. Fun time actually. I have a lot of pictures of it and you got to tour the facility and see the top of the silo and everything.
I didn't watch that full clip, but just so everyone knows, that silo is a Minuteman II silo, which are decommissioned since we now have Minuteman III ICBMs.
At least that's what the government wants us to think... wink wink.

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>>5702999

only France should get the nuke as it's the only cold war independant nuclear power that never fucked up so bad that it almost started a nuclear exchange with another country.

>>5672221
all of 4chan exists as an organic barrier to very rare content such as this

>>5681131
>>5681832

interpreting things like that seems like interpreting nostradamus, "if you make this word and that word mean 'x' then everything makes sense'

The Woman in a Basket
5 Then the angel who was speaking to me came forward and said to me, “Look up and see what is appearing.”

6 I asked, “What is it?”

He replied, “It is a basket.” And he added, “This is the iniquity[a] of the people throughout the land.”

7 Then the cover of lead was raised, and there in the basket sat a woman! 8 He said, “This is wickedness,” and he pushed her back into the basket and pushed its lead cover down on it.

9 Then I looked up—and there before me were two women, with the wind in their wings! They had wings like those of a stork, and they lifted up the basket between heaven and earth.

10 “Where are they taking the basket?” I asked the angel who was speaking to me.

11 He replied, “To the country of Babylonia[b] to build a house for it. When the house is ready, the basket will be set there in its place.”

1- why is a woman a fire let alone nuclear warheads.

2- why are they 'building a house for it'? yeah ok interpretation upon interpretation of a different language from like 600 bc but thats pretty for off from 'total descruction'

>>5707372
>1- why is a woman a fire let alone nuclear warheads.
The word ishshah means woman and the word ishsheh means fire offering. The thought is that the original translators thought that the word ishshah made more sense in the context of the verse than ishsheh. Perhaps if it was translated after the modern discovery of nuclear weapons, they would have used the other word which means fire offering. https://biblehub.com/hebrew/801.htm
>2- why are they 'building a house for it'? yeah ok interpretation upon interpretation of a different language from like 600 bc but thats pretty for off from 'total descruction'
I think this passage is a reference to nuclear missile silos or bases where these weapons are stored.

>>5669209
>neat, I live close enough to a base that I'll probably get to see the flashes when they fall

I used to live right next to WPAFB, within a mile of the flight line, and at the other end was the Intelligence facilities of said base. As a child in school we practiced nuclear attack drills where we either got under our desks or just dropped in place on our knees and covered our head with our arms.

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>>5709806
>You will never get to stand under the explosion of an atomic bomb
Why even live?

>>5672199
eh, just stop, drop, and roll. Then take some iodine with some coca cola and go see Babe Ruth bat a homer. No big whoop, fella. Vote Eisenhower.

>>5693095
It's obviously satirical.
American excess is built on their lead in nuclear weaponry, which started with this event.

>>5692329
non-nuclear

>>5674139
biggest US test.
almost 3x times more powerful than they had planned. they didnt account for the specific isotope of lithium

almost killed the firing team who were in a concrete bunker 25 miles from ground zero

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>>5668839
did they condecorate the russians?

>>5681964
Stop talking and go take a shower.

>>5670917
>>5681131
>>5681832
>>5707372
>>5708245
Quasimodo predicted all this.

>>5690649
It won't be wiped out, no, but that's beside the point; r*ssniggers ae not worth the hassle of global nuclear war.
>because they wouldn't let your ancestors poison the serfs with liquor
I don't think anon's ancestors are r*ssians, are they, pidor?

>>5693111
No he was too based for that.
>>5693129
>4kek
>not falling for literal turdie despot's external propaganda
Pick one, /pol/yp. You are NOT immune to propaganda.

>>5703032
>concerntrolling
Most inventive FSB glowie tactic
>>5704464
Idk but you do need to be one to buy into kr*mlin drivel. Take a long walk off a short pier.

>>5704467
I think it would better to interview the child rapists, women eaters, and prisoner torturers who wore the imperial japanese uniform, see how they feel. But I guess don't really care about it.

These men brought a definite end to the plague of Togoism and allowed a nation to be reborn and grow beyon it all. It is Japan's chauvinistic ilk that brought ruin to their country that ought to feel endless shame...

>>5672221
it is a relief to hear a boring old man speak plainly about an edgy topic instead of some hyperactive YT faggot

>>5718006
>>5700250
what are those "strings" you often see in these videos?

>>5687531
>anti-White
Nope, they were allied with Germans and reguarded Whites as above niggers/jews/arabs etc.
>anti-Western
Thats a good thing though.
Atleast try to capitalize White. You're not White.

>>5693028
did jews control the USA in the 1940s? Yes. jews were behind WW1 and WW2? Yes. The nukes dropped on Japan were caused by jews.

>>5682128
>Japan deserved it.
No they didnt. The (((soviets))) naval blockade them from the north, USA from the south and east. Starve em for 1 month and they give up and no nukes needed. Nukes were used to show the (((soviets))) that "we got a big bomb and you dont"

>>5682128
>this was basically the only way to save thousands of americans from dying needlessly in human wave attacks on tiny islands.
Youre not thinking straight if a naval blockade of resources on a resource starved island nation didnt come across your mind kid.

>>5718326

From a thread some months ago:

>Smoke trails left by sounding rockets. Basically reference markers used to observe the progression of the shock wave.

>From: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rope_trick_effect

>"After a few milliseconds, the energy of the shock front will no longer be great enough to heat the air into incandescence. At that point, the shock front becomes invisible, a process known as "breakaway". This makes the shock wave difficult to diagnose beyond this boundary.

>Photographs of nuclear tests often show numerous vertical rope-like lines to one side. These are typically created by small sounding rockets launched a few seconds before the firing, leaving smoke trails. The purpose of these trails is to record the passing of the now invisible shock wave, which causes an obvious visual effect on the smoke by compressing the air into a lens. This is not necessarily related to the rope trick effect in any physical way, but it is possible to confuse the two in some photographs. In the photograph of the Tumbler-Snapper test (at the top of this article), the vertical lines in the lower-right corner are blast line poles not smoke trails."

>More info here: https://nuclearweaponarchive.org/Usa/Tests/SmokeTrails.html

>>5681935
>>5683335
The winter is not the immediate result of the nuclear blasts but the firestorms from the many hundreds of burning cities.
The smoke from a normal fire goes into lower altitudes of the atmosphere and is ultimately rained out. Multiple ~100kT explosions in the same city, public utilities and emergency response in complete tatters, the superheated firestorms across Europe and North America accelerate the smoke into the stratosphere where it will not fall back to Earth.
The key point is these are not normal fires and the general nuclear war plan will result in a geological catastrophe. Nothing to do with radiation fallout either.

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>>5677033
The US government wasn't Jewish.
>>5687531
>whose generals wrote books about genociding the whites in North America
Source please? I've never heard of that.

>>5668836
>certain annhilation of America's urban population

Yes please

>>5682128
Explain why USA had to invade Japan

>>5721253
Because Japan started a war with America.
>but why
Because they wanted to invade the Dutch East Indies to take their oil, and the American Philippines were directly in between there and Japan
>but why
Because they felt entitled to that oil and needed it to fuel their armies.
>but why
Because they had decided that invading China was an appropriate course of action
>but why
They wanted power and control over Asia.
>but why
They were lost up their own asses.

>>5718361
1. America was already doing that.
2. Continuing that until the Japanese surrendered would kill far more civilians than a few big bombs, so why would you prefer that?

>>5711934
why is this arousing

So many of you have confused zionism with judaism.

Just like so many confused nazis with germans.

>>5690643
If a bomb hit above you, it is conceivable that something could happen where the detonation doesnt necessarily incinerate you, but causes a major seismic event. Its better that you stay bolted into a seat than bouncing around a concrete bunker filled with metal equipment

>>5722652
My friend, that was not my question. Answer why the USA had to invade Japan - considering that Japan was essentially beaten at that point with no relevant navy or airforce,

The question is a good one to ask especially when people defend the nuclear bombing by stating that it theoretically saved lives that would have been lost from a conventional invasion of Japan.

>>5724040
>Answer why the USA had to invade Japan
I told you why.
>Japan was essentially beaten at that point
Japan had already been "essentially beaten" 6 months earlier when the US military burned Tokyo to the ground in only two hours. They should have surrendered then, but they refused to. They had ample opportunity to surrender but didn't, because they didn't consider themselves beaten.

>>5724051
No, you haven't explained why the USA had to invade Japan. Japan was no longer a threat to the USA and there was no point in invading the main islands.

>>5724071
Japan started a war with America and refused to surrender for everything short of an invasion (or as it turned out, the bombs.) That's why.

>nooo I don't like that
Blow it out your ass.

>>5724079
Amazing, I am in awe of your mental acuity. It's so refreshing to see critical thinking and reason applied rather than simply swallowing propaganda. Please, keep celebrating the murder of 200 thousand plus people unnecessarily,

>>5724080
Just shut your fat fucking ass. You keep bleating retarded bullshit to defend an inexcusable pile of shit totalitarian death cult while making sure you never actually read the answers you're given. Shove your armchair debater schtick up your fucking ass.

You and your gaggle of retards keep insisting the US should've left the T*jo government in place,why? So they can recuperate after the US public inevitably gets tired of the war and pick back up where they left off? Or starve the country to the last man, woman and child with a blockade? You should stop pretending you care about "muh innocent" cause we all know you tug your baby dick to stories of the IJA bayonetting a young chinese woman in the guts for existing near em. Ultimately, there's no debate to be had, you're defending the indefensable. You should fucking kill yourself, you fucking subhuman.
>>5718358
Go back to huffing paint, tard. Nobody asked to open your filthy fucking sewers.
>>5718357
>t-they weren't anti-huwhite!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akikaze_massacre
It's fitting that stormtards would simp for regimes that would have their dumb heads on a fucking spit.
>>5723230
Hey, pidor, I heard your brother croaked outside kursk, did you get the one pound bag of potatos your family was promised?

>>5672199
How are the cameras never affected by nuclear blasts? No shaking at all while trees and houses get annihilated

>>5725612
You, sir, sound mad

>>5727104
>what is zoom
>https://youtu.be/DFcOnlAlaOw?feature=shared&t=85

>>5724080
should have nuked your family line, kill yourself

nothing tops that one scene from dr strangelove

>>5727114
Go back to your pigsty, plebbitor

>>5669762
You always see the footage of the two officers each turning their keys.
They never show the third officer that's there to kill whoever hesitates to turn their key

>>5718359
>No they didnt.
yup, they did. japan deserved to be nuked, and they still do. japs are jews. nuke them until they are all gone. wipe em out. anime is the most pathetic faggoty thing on earth. delete it completely. delete all nips from history so no one knew they existed.

>>5727104
holy fuck you're stupid. ever use a search engine to learn about anything? clearly not.
>>5692815
prove it. you won't

>>5725612
Worked up

>>5672221
First saw this footage several years ago
I still think of it periodically

>>5669242
>>5669762
>It must be terrible being the one having to turn the key
They turn the key but don't make any active decision to fire, they have drills regularly enough that go right up to turning the key before code fails to authenticate due to being a test. They have enough of these tests that the ones that hesitate are demoted or reassigned and it becomes business as usual. They won't really be able to tell if it's a real launch until the booster starts shaking the ground.

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>>5668835
/v/idya kino okay?

>>5716672
Shorten it to oy vey next time Moshe

>>5672221
Drink water you ancient fucking retard.
I hate old people so fucking much.

>>5731524
What game is this?

>>5670937
>get close
Even in the most chill of times there is ALWAYS a CAP (Carrier Air Patrol) of 2-4 armed FA-18 or at the time F-14 aircraft, those Mig-25's (who can't carry AShM) would have died for nothing.

>>5693111
Truman was a LITERAL Shabbos Goy.

>>5670937
>Tom Clancy is with the director and Clancy is shitting on the movie
Didn't they change the islamic terrorists into neo-nazis? Odd that Clancy participated at all.

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>>5721048
This movie is so great you have to see the whole thing. "Chicken Fried Movie"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzH8VXlXxNE

>>5671312
bruh what are you babbling on about

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>>5733795
>Disappointed this thread wasn't what i wanted
go make your own thread then shithead

>>5692329
do you not know what the difference is between a regular small explosion and a nuke? i guess not