Post videos that really make you go. Wait, hold on a minute this shit is really flat.
>>5771413he's obviously referring to protestants attacking copernicus for saying that the earth revolves around the sun here
>>5771406>CIAtesting the limits of human stupidity on 4chan i see.
>>5771446you are the glowie. go ahead and explain it then. 59 miles yet we can still see chicago. just that alone. if curvature is a lie then it all is.
>>5771513he can't he can only deflect
>>5771411i remember hearing about this as some sort of final deboonking on the flat earth chuds but immediately thinking that they were proven right. wonder what else is out there
>>5771564what about polar night, when the sun isn't visible for 6 months? that model doesn't really accomodate
>>5771406>Retard threadlmfao
>>5771415None of these guys have the balls to go see the edge of the earth.
>>5771757>None of these guys have the balls to go see the edge of the earth.you literally can't, the edge is Antarctica and the navy stops you
>>5771564That would be correct if they went to the North Pole, but they went to the South Pole, which is the white ring along the edges of the flat earth model. And as you can see in the video the 24h day would be impossible on the South Pole in the model.
Wow, what a difficult prompt. Not even OP could do it.
>>5771797you should tell your bosses to stop doing the invasion glownigger your budget should be running out, all the twitter shills had to look for other jobsOh I suppose the FE stuff got moved to NATO or europe huh? >brownskinsoh lol you're a kikewhy the fuck are you counter signaling flat earth? Kikes shouldn't care about that
>>5771774>>5771564100% of the 24 hour sun videos are fake and inconsistent The Final Experiment, was neither final nor an experiment, the goal was to do a 24 hour livestream of the sun at the south pole, they failed to maintain the livestream for 24 hoursunder the terms of the TFE, the earth was proven flat.
>>5771418now thats retarded and i think its a globefag reverse propaganda
i fucking hate flatheads. Dumbasses think that if the sun moves far away, everything goes dark... lmaooo
>>5771564Are you saying the 24 hour circling around proves flat earth? if so i agree with you lol.
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>>5771948lmao wut
>>5771406Wait a minute I'm retarded
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>>5771513>we can still see chicagoonly the tops of the buildings, not their basethe base of the buildings is obscured by the curvature of the earthsee also >>5771416 and how you can see the tops of skyscrapers, but not the hustle and bustle of streets full of carscheckmate dummy
>>5771406>human eye is the limitthen get one of the fancy zoom machines you used for seeing boats to zoom in and see across the atlantic
If the earth were flat, then if I stood on the top of the world's highest mountain, Mount Everest, and used a telescope, I would be able to see all the people and cities of other countries.
>>5772968but muh refraction, muh objects appear smaller in the distance, muh, muh, THE ERF IS FLAT OK JUST DONT QUESTION IT THE GUBIRMINTS WANT TO CONTROL YOU THATS WHY YOU GOTTA PAY MY PATREON AND STICK IT TO THE MAN LIKE THE CULTIST YOU ARE
>>5771513I couldn't imagine going on with my life being this fucking retarded .
well known flerfs are now saying the FE model doesnt work
you're all wrongearth is a hotdog>>5773393hotdog earth works with a 24 hour sun
>>5772483explain that 'experiment' to me. notice it involves the exact same shill, Jeran, as the other two times FE was 'disproven'. Any test that requires people to trust Jeran, is not a test.
>>5772480the three people cannot see the southern cross at the same time. That's just a lie. Notice you'll never have a single 'flat earth debunk' video that purports to actually measure the curve, all use indirect logic that requires faulty inferences.
>>5773393>well known flerfsyou mean shills. controlled opposition that are being paid--like you are--to lie. Just measure the earth. >>5772983recreate the experiment. If his experiment proved rotation, why do you rely on his measurements? The guy who made the measurements, claims you're lying. So just get the laser gyroscope and do it yourself. You won't because the test doesn't confirm globe earth. and ONCE AGAINnotice your debunk of flat earth does not include an actual measurement of the earth, always an indirect inference driven supposition.
>>5773396government shills are the least funny people on our flat and stationary realm
>>5771513>glowiewe do say that word here
>>5772981The government is controlled by Satanic pedophiles, the globe earth is part of a conspiracy to create secular explanations for creation such that the public doesn't have to believe in God. It's identical to evolution, it was formulated not from evidence, but backwards from the conclusion that there is no God. In truth, none of the underlying assumptions of globe earth are true; gravity is not correct, if it were, it couldn't create stable systems like our solar system seems to be.
>>5772698Because there's a mirage above the sea. He's still right, they should be completely hidden but they aren't. Earth is flat.
>>5772698fag>>5773507correct, Almost all globie earth arguments rely on people not understanding refraction/optics.
>>5773510oops meant to attach this one
>watching sunset>instead of the sun going from the middle of the sky straight down into the west, it curves to the northwest a bit >if round Earthers are right, it should just go "straight down" into the west with how the earth rotates>yet, it does not, it actually takes a right turn and heads north from my perspective, aligning with the model of the sun circling overhead in the flat earth concept>they say the earth has a tilt, that's why it happens that way, yet that wouldn't cause that effect whatsoever. All that would happen is it would be a little to the left, and would still go straight down, but again it doesn't.
>>5773515who are you quoting?
>>5773494>propellant powerful enough to lift heavy things into the orbit is more than just a candle flamewow who woulda thunkwhat's next, is the smoke coming out of your car's exhaust pipe also a fake?
>>5773495>the three people cannot see the southern cross at the same timecitations? or are you just saying whatever makes you feel special?>measure the curvenobody bothers to do that because it's already been measured, time and time again, and it's always the same numbers>indirect logicno, it's all direct responses to what flerfs say. the cahin goes "earth is round "nuh-uh" "yuh-uh" and if you look at the third step in isolation it can seem inderect, but it is just a third step in the progression of each and every argument like this
>>5773515>>if round Earthers are right, it should just go "straight down" into the west with how the earth rotatesi concur with the other anon, who are you quoting?earth rotation axis is at an angle, so the sun's path is also at an angle, and doesn't touch the horison directly in the west, again, because of the angle.and, even if you're right, the flat earth model works worse, because there the sun shouldn't set, just shrink in size and fade away while it's still high in the northwest side. never sunsetting ever. the visible fact that it does sunset, and doesn't change it's size, does not work with the flat earth model. so really, the only explanation is you got your directions wrong. magnetic compasses tend to do that
>>5773772keep coping
>>5773773>citations? or are you just saying whatever makes you feel special?you have to prove the positive, I don't have to prove the negative. >nobody bothers to do that because it's already been measured, time and time again, and it's always the same numberscorrect and it always comes back flat. >no, it's all direct responses to what flerfs say. the cahin goes "earth is round "nuh-uh" "yuh-uh" and if you look at the third step in isolation it can seem inderect, but it is just a third step in the progression of each and every argument like thisyou literally cannot produce any evidence for curvature.
>>5773777>, just shrink in size and fade awaythat's literally what happens.
>>5773515based chad
Serious question to flat earthers, what is the point of the flat earth conspiracy? Or more importantly the motive?Like I dont necessarily believe 9/11 was an inside job but at least there is a motive that could be established behind it being an inside job.Assuming the Earth is indeed flat, what is the motive to lie about it?
>>5773789>Serious question to flat earthers, what is the point of the flat earth conspiracy?because if people knew the earth was flat the existence of a creator would be obvious. Globe earth is like evolution, it was created specifically to allow a secular explanation for creation. The point is to keep you from God. >Like I dont necessarily believe 9/11 was an inside job then you're a retard and you should believe in space like the mark you are.
>>5773789>Like I dont necessarily believe 9/11 was an inside job
>>5773792>because if people knew the earth was flat the existence of a creator would be obvious.
>>5773792how does the earth being flat inherently imply a creator? how can a creator make a flat earth but not a round earth?
>>5773855>how does the earth being flat inherently imply a creator?because if we live in a snowglobe someone had to make it. btw I was a life long Atheist until flat earth, and the moment I accepted it I became a Christian.
>>5773855>how can a creator make a flat earth but not a round earth?pilpul to defend the globe is so funny.
>>5773777>earth rotation axis is at an angle, so the sun's path is also at an angle, and doesn't touch the horison directly in the west, again, because of the angle.But it's not a constant angle like a straight line that's been tilted, it's a curved path like a ring shaped pattern.See the video in this post >>5773788
>>5771406>doubling down even though flerfs were just btfo'd in Antarctica You have nothing to offer society and are so stunted socially you have to resort to believing an obvious lie to feel special. Sad, many such cases.
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>>5771723Assuming this was filmed from where they say it is. Why cant we see the land, what's obscuring the bottom 3/4 of the buildings? Can you recreate that shot on any day at any time, or only on specific days at specific times?
>>5774027i loved space so fucking muchit was really really really hard to let go.
>>5774038el oh el
>>5773783You think that's what, a mouse? It must be so nice to not know how stupid you are.
>>5774044you ungrateful mother fucker.
>>5773783>>5774044one thing I think flat earthers did a good job on was exposing the NASA liesthey just took it too far with the whole flat earth thing which seems like a psyop to control stupid peopleall of their shit has been deb0nked and is easy to find onlineeven flat earth dave had a phone app that got hacked and they found that it used earths curvature to calculate location
>>5772189Earth is huge compared to the moon yet looks like the moon from the moon.
>>5772480A compass works exactly the fucking same. Is this guy retarded? 2d brained retard.
>>5774027Based
>>5774169https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/lccn/sn90060625/1900-04-21/ed-1/seq-1/
>>5774169
>>5774038>Jews making up space>Naming a mission after a false idol deity>Star trek starts in 1966 (almost the number of the beast)>Vulcan hand sign literally means "shalom"HAHAHAHAAH
>>5773899>>5773900is a round earth an impossibility for a omnipotent creator?
>>5774139its funny, the US stuff actually isn't better. the pre-apollo claymation is so obvious.
>>5774169Eratosthenes never existed and his fake experience didn't prove curvature.
>>5774258>one thing I think flat earthers did a good job on was exposing the NASA liesI don't give a shit what you think faggot. Here's something you'll never do, make a single argument based on evidence. And you won't because you know you're wrong. >>5774169
>>5774258>even flat earth dave had a phone app that got hacked and they found that it used earths curvature to calculate locationthat never happened, you're describing GPS, GPS does not use curvature at all. >all of their shit has been deb0nked and is easy to find onlineThen posit your best proof. You can't produce any evidence of curvature at all.
>>5774279excellent example of globe proof. Literally no argument, just social shaming, and your dumb nigger ass can't even make webms. eratosthenes' stick and shadow experiment took as a given that sunrays are parallel. they obviously aren't.
>>5774628>is a round earth an impossibility for a omnipotent creator?Yes, because that omnipotent creator specifically said it was flat, and therefore it being a globe would make him defacto not omnipotent by virtue of being wrong. One could imagine he could create a ball earth, but your point is moot since he very specifically said it's flat. And you have literally not a single piece of evidence that it's a globe. none.
>>5774648nta, but how about volcanoes. They are an easily observable, natural phenomenon. Gravity explains the systems that power them quite comprehensively. If gravity is true then the earth is a spheroid. How then, on a flat earth, do volcanoes work?
>>5774034>Assuming this was filmed from where they say it is. Why cant we see the land, what's obscuring the bottom 3/4 of the buildings?refraction you incredibly stupid niggerimagine being so fucking dumb, you don't know how your eye work, which you've used your entire fucking retard life. What did you think it was, did you think the buildings were a mile high you nigger?
>>5774034>Can you recreate that shot on any day at any time, or only on specific days at specific times?every single observation ever made is subject to transitory atmospheric conditions, how old are you? How incurious and simple are you? Absolute fucking nigger questions. I need you to listen to me very carefully you fucking nigger. YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO BE A FLAT EARTHER. You will remain a loyal adherent to globohomo until your early and violent death and then you';ll be dragged to hell for supporting a satanic psyop. Get out of this thread, it's for adults.
>>5774654>this thread, it's for adultsfucking lmao
>>5774652>nta, but how about volcanoes.irrelevant. >They are an easily observable, natural phenomenonk>Gravity explains the systems that power them quite comprehensively.gravity is entirely fake and does not explain geothermic convection that drive volcanos you fucking nigger. > If gravity is trueits not>hen the earth is a spheroid. it's notand gravity has nothing to do with Volcanos. ?How then, on a flat earth, do volcanoes work?geothermic convection. You're all so incredibly genuinely retarded. If gravity were caused by mass attracting mass, or warped space time, they could use gravity to predict the orbit of planets (they can't) and you couldn't turn gravity off with a particular frequency (you can). You work for the people that did 911 and you will suffer their same fate.
>>5774656keep tonguing that anus glownigger
>>5774270>A compass works exactly the fucking same. Is this guy retarded? 2d brained retard.on a globe, the compass apparently points to the core of the earth, so it should point down. It makes no sense that it would point up if youre at the equator facing the north pole. Compasses absolutely disprove the globe earth.
>>5774657gravity absolutely explains geothermic convection, what drives the convections currents on a flat earth?
>>5774658Yep you got me. I'm CIA, we're gangstalking you because you possess secret knowledge the general public is not supposed to have access to. go ahead an take a sip of your water Geoffrey, we need you to stay hydrated.
>>5774664>gravity absolutely explains geothermic convectionits in the name retardits heat based movement,>what drives the convections currents on a flat earth?why don't yo u have a single argument, or piece of evidence in favor of the argument you pretend to believe. Why would you pretend to beleive something without even an offer of why you allegedly believe it?
>>5774680>Yep you got me. I'm CIA,nah you're CTIL, or maybe part of the post-election kids who signed up for was are essentially CTIL organizations as well. The regular CTIL shills are all former military who were separated from the military following an NPD diagnosis. They make excellent shills but they're often so emotionally stunted they have no other options and they get paid insultingly low wages. It's pathetic. Seems like the dipshit kids are working for free. Which is really funny since the people you're working on behalf of literally print money, and could pay you a billion an hour without even noticing the money gone.
>>5774680>Yep you got me. I'm CIAWas getting caught part of your plan?
>>5774694>>5774680Of course it was
>>5774684So you have no answer as to what would drive the convection on flat earth, got it. Volcanoes are solid proof of gravity and a globe. We can and have used earthquakes to map the interior of the planet, and proved there is a core, and the times between detections prove a sphere. Meanwhile your landlocked somewhere in middle America looking at a corn field and saying "it looks flat".
>>5774689We saw you pour out that water Geoff. Go ahead and get yourself a fresh bottle they are all safe I guarantee it.
>>5774705>So you have no answer as to what would drive the convection on flat earthit's literally in the name, geothermal heat drives the convection. the real noodle scratcher is how the hell you think it causes a magnetic field when molten metal can't be magnetic.
>>5774707>We saw you pour out that water Geoff. Go ahead and get yourself a fresh bottle they are all safe I guarantee it.what am I doing now?
>>5774705>We can and have used earthquakes to map the interior of the planet, and proved there is a core, and the times between detections prove a sphere.that's great news. >>5774705>Meanwhile your landlocked somewhere in middle America looking at a corn field and saying "it looks flat".what kind of newfag can't detect my caliwali accent in my typing?I bet this fool hasn't even had a hot carl!
>>5774709Walking to the Speedway on Kramer to get an Arizona tea. I shouldn't say this here, but we've owned Arizona for a while why do you think they can still charge .99 cents?
>>5774711>Walking to the Speedway on Kramer to get an Arizona tea.dis nigger thinks I'm phone posting. I'm posting full resolution webms and this mother fucker thinks I'm fucking phone posting.
>>5774713Keep looking over your shoulder Geoffrey, you almost saw our point man last time.
>>5774715>Keep looking over your shoulder Geoffreyyou guys must successful induce schizophrenia a lot, you fags do this script a lot. But if you did it a lot you'd know actual schizophrenics are scared by their delusions of persecution. but not me. we're going to meet.
>>5774708>Candace Owensfucking LMAOwhat creates the heat? rocks don't just get hot on their own. Why would heat and pressure increase with depth without gravity. The heat releases electrons from the atoms and them the free negative charge creates a magnetic field when the molten metal is moving. a globe earth is spinning, where does the motion come from on a flat earth?
>>5774717I'd love to have a chat Geoff, but am I the man on the telephone pole, or maybe the cashier Girl "working" at speedway. Maybe I'm in the black SUV across the street, or maybe we're in your attic. Who knows, that's the fun!
>>5774258>I don't give a shit what you think faggot.very common for low IQ anons to blame shift and are easy to provokeLogical Fallacy: burden of proofhttps://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/burden-of-proofGPS works by using 4 different satellites with time based information when the signal was sent/received to determine your locationStarlink is impossible without satellites and spaceSolar and Lunar eclipses happenStar constellations in the night sky change based on your location and time of year
>>5774647>that never happened, you're describing GPS, GPS does not use curvature at all.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71FRE9cZczwGPS uses 4 satellites in space and time based information to determine your location>Then posit your best proof.there are so many wild theories to choose fromi'll let you pick your best argument for flat earth and will show proof its untrue, purely hypothetical, or where two things are getting mixed up fact from fictionthere's always a strange combination of some truth but it gets stretched to fictionOne easy thing to prove the earth isnt flat are the seasons and star constellations at nightvisible constellations change throughout the year if you're in north/south hemispheres
>>5774649>he specifically said it was flatsource?
>>5774705>Volcanoes are solid proof of gravity and a globe.I hate how globies assume something random just "proves" their worldview. No, volcanoes existing doesn't mean there's a magic lava core in the middle of the world. We probably don't know how volcanoes really work considering how suspicious they are and how sporadic actual eruptions are. It's probably more intentional when they do go off, but that gets into spiritual things and I know globe atheists hate that stuff so I'll end it there.
>>5774944>yea flat earthers dont have a explanation for volcanic activity>eruptions are pretty random>but its definitely probably intentional which means god is behind it and thats all we need to know about it
>>5775065Yeah see that's why I almost didn't even bother, bringing anything spiritual into the discussion makes people mad because some people think spiritual = imaginary
>>5775084sounds like cope to me
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>>5774720>what creates the heat?what creates the magnetic field since molten iron can't be magnetic? ggno re
>>5774723>I'd love to have a chat Geoff, but am I the man on the telephone pole, or maybe the cashier Girl "working" at speedway. Maybe I'm in the black SUV across the street, or maybe we're in your attic. Who knows, that's the fun!you're paid poverty wages to shill for Satanic pedophiles you were chosen because of your personality defect makes you feel ok about lying to yourself.
>>5774861>tracking linkno thanks. >GPS uses 4 satellites in space and time based information to determine your locationthat's the kayfabe, you can't prove that. >One easy thing to prove the earth isnt flat are the seasons and star constellations at nightvisible constellations change throughout the year if you're in north/south hemispheresthat doesn't prove the earth is spherical at all. The constelations don't 'change' they process in a predictable exacting cycle that would be impossible in a galaxy governed by gravity and without showing any parallax which is impossible with the standard model.
>>5774917>source?The BIblethe firmament is mentioned on page 1. there's absolutely no dispute about biblical cosmology. see >>5773796>>5774944>I hate how globies assume something random just "proves" their worldview.100% of globies are CTIL shills now a days, they don't believe the things they say, they just want to argue about something that doesn't matter and isn't flat earth.
>>5775358>impossible eclipsebecause you can't into perspectiveand you can't explain how it would work on a flat plane
>>5775360crazy how the "firmament" automagically implies the earths surface is flat and not just saying theres a barrier between earth and heaven
>>5775360Not the anon,firmanent is division between earthly heaven (sky) and the celestial heaven (paradise) dumbo, it is not an entirely physical concept.This is like entrance-level theology.https://www.newadvent.org/summa/1068.htm
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>>5775363>because you can't into perspectivethe sun would take up the entire ski lol>and you can't explain how it would work on a flat planethere's a third celestial body, a black sun, if you would.
>>5775368>Not the anon,this is increasingly only said by globe shills and only to pretend there are more of you. >>5775368>firmanent is division between earthly heaven (sky) and the celestial heaven (paradise) dumbo, it is not an entirely physical concept.>This is like entrance-level theology.You agree with me though. >>5775373There is absolutely no dispute about the cosmology of the Bible. thanks for this post, I made this clip for you
>>5775366>crazy how the "firmament" automagically implies the earths surface is flat and not just saying theres a barrier between earth and heaventhat is a crazy thing, it didn't happen. See>>5775392the flatness of the earth was specified as the dome was.
>>5775384>the sun would take up the entire ski lolit's far away
>>5775393>You agree with me though.that the bibles definition of the word "firmament" means "heavenly boundary" or simply "the sky". the existence of a firmament or the mere mention of it does not imply the surface of the earth is flat, luckily you ignored this and just said "heh this roundtard actually agrees with me on the definition of firmament which means he thinks the earth is flat. this is definitely going in my round earth cringe compilation".gen 1:6 could literally be interpreted as "god made the sky, separating earth from heaven"
>>5774268it's still huge in comparison you dimwit. The earth isn't to be covering the moons sky haha but it's definitely larger in comparison to you walking outside at night and looking at the moon
>>5775397>it's far awaythen it wouldn't behave like that.
>>5775404>that the bibles definition of the word "firmament" means "heavenly boundary" or simply "the sky"it can be translated into that. There's no dispute about it being a hard structure. The root words used for it prove that. > the existence of a firmament or the mere mention of it does not imply the surface of the earth is flat, but the Bible also says it's flat. and the people who wrote the bible believed it's flat. > luckily you ignored this and just said "heh this roundtard actually agrees with me on the definition of firmament which means he thinks the earth is flat. this is definitely going in my round earth cringe compilation".No I said your definition of firmament isn't contradictory to mine. gg >gen 1:6 could literally be interpreted as "god made the sky, separating earth from heaven"Sure. But there's no dispute about Biblical cosmology. They believed in a flat earth, as does every single religion in history.
>>5774658god i hate this clip so much. The guy specifically asks >in spite of the *glare*
>>5775409vid rel>>5775413>god i hate this clip so much.I will post it more. >The guy specifically asksk. You need to develop your screeching into a logical argument. Someone saying the word glare isn't relevant to the dispute I'm afraid faggot.
>>5775397that webm is literally a pro FE webm what are you doing lolololgo watch a full eclipse in person, you will get the overwhelming feeling that it's a signature by our Creator.
>>5775411>but the bible also says its flatsource?
>>5775410i live by the sea and i have seen countless of sunsets and the sun-disc doesn't change size when it drowns in the ocean>>5775417>that webm is literally a pro FE webmnot reallythe squaring of the circle wouldn't work on a flat earth with a tiny moonto me this is the fingerprint of our Creator
>>5775423>source?The Bible. lol>>5775445>i live by the seano you don't. > and i have seen countless of sunsets and the sun-disc doesn't change size when it drowns in the oceanyou're lying. You just saw one, in the video I posted. Why are you lying?look at timelapse sunsets on Youtube about 1/3 show the sun shrinking. From sea level, when viewing a sunset the thicker atmosphere closest to the ground causes atmospheric lensing that magnifies the Sun roughly in proportion to it's size change from moving away. So under normal conditions from sea level it doesn't appear to change size. when you get above the thick, low-lying air, the phenomena is quite obvious and repeatable. There is no possible way something 93 million miles away could appear to change size that much. >not reallyyes, its absolutely absurd to believe the moon and sun appearing to be the EXACT same size is just random chance. It's ridiculous. >to me this is the fingerprint of our Creatorcorrect. And he said the earth is flat.
>>5775445>the squaring of the circle wouldn't work on a flat earth with a tiny moonlol walk me through this you fucking retarded idiot who hasn't done math since he flunked out of Algebra II in 10th grade.
>>5775458funs over yall, we broke him and he resorted to kindergarten replies
>>5775461who are you talking to nigger?
>>5775472correction: a kindergartner raised in the hood
>>5775475>correction: a kindergartner raised in the hoodwhat do you think will happen when you are forced to explain why you chose to spend your limited time on this earth shilling for a satanic psyop on behalf of the most evil regime in history?
>>5775482
>>5775482>yadayada globe earth satanic pedophilesyouve yet to explain how the mention of a firmament proves how the earth is flat
>>5775492>youve yet to explain how the mention of a firmament proves how the earth is flatWhy would I explain an argument you made?
>>5775499>why would i answer a question about basic logic in my fringe, medieval beliefsbc you dont have a answer, bc youre wrong
>>5775503>bc you dont have a answer, bc youre wronghow can I be wrong when I never made that claim?
>>5775504you claim that "bible also says its flat" and im simply asking *where* it says that. the bible is a pretty big book btw so unless every word in the bible says "the" "earth" "is" "flat", simply saying "the bible lol" isnt going to convince anyone
>>5775507>you claim that "bible also says its flat"that's not in dispute. It absolutely does. See >>5775392>and im simply asking *where* it says that.Every time the earth is described it's described as a flat and non-moving plane covered by a dome. There is no depiction of the earth inconsistent with that, and biblical scholars and histories unanimously agree that is the cosmology of the Bible. Wikipedia agrees, there's literally no dispute on this point. >the bible is a pretty big book btw so unless every word in the bible says "the" "earth" "is" "flat", simply saying "the bible lol" isnt going to convince anyoneI'm not trying to convince you, you aren't saying things you believe shill, I am convincing the lurker while demonstrating your bad faith and obvious shill tactics.
>>5775509this entire word wall hinges on the fact that a "firmament" proves the earth is flat, which it doesnt>picout of context and likely cherrypicked excerpts organized neatly in a jpg, very cool>>5775392>basically the same thing, only in mp4 form
>>5775358tracking links have the si= option in the URL for tracking and the link i posted doesnt have thatyou're just saying some random shit hoping it sticks so you dont have to face the factsflat earth daves app was shit, uses the curvature of the earth to calculate location, and he doxxed his whole user basehead in the sand and fingers in the ears denialits not my job to write you a paper on why you're retarded and try to get you to understandprobably a wasted effort if I didalso in your vid rel, why is there a curve on the moon and not just a flat line?what blocks out the light on the moon and causes that type of effect if we're on a flat disk under a dome?posting your own proof the earth isnt flat
>>5775482>what do you think will happen when you are forced to explain why you chose to spend your limited time on this earth shilling for a satanic psyop on behalf of the most evil regime in history?projecting
>>5775509Lurker here. Your arguments are dogshit. I'm only here to watch your retard ass get beat up by simple questions.
>>5775522>tracking links have the si= option in the URL for tracking and the link i posted doesnt have thatno they have "?">you're just saying some random shithow is directly responding 'random shit'? >flat earth daves app was shit,it's a great app. It's too bad TFE proved Dave is controlled op, that broke my heart. >uses the curvature of the earth to calculate locationno it doesn't. No app uses raw data from GPS to calculate location, it just uses GPS, so all you're saying is his app used GPS, while taking for granted government claims about GPS (despite GPS having coverage gaps inconsistent with claims that it uses satellites.)The dishonest framing of your argument is sufficient to reject it without more. >and he doxxed his whole user basehead in the sand and fingers in the ears denialI'm going to guess that your definition of 'dox' here is very loose. The app is designed to allow people to see the location of other users, your video's titles indicates that's all that 'leaked' that's not a dox and not a leak, it was the actual purpose of the app. >its not my job but you are doing your job right now. >to write you a paper on why you're retarded and try to get you to understandthat's literally what you're pretending to be doing here though. The kayfabe is you're super interested in defending the government and convincing us we're wrong, if you're not saying you explicitly dont' want to do that, why are you here posting at all? >also in your vid rel, why is there a curve on the moon and not just a flat line?because that's not a shadow of the earth, which is the entire point retard, how stupid are you that you missed that? >hat blocks out the light on the moon and causes that type of effect if we're on a flat disk under a dome?the black sun, a third celestial body only visible during eclipses. The standard model is inconsistent with Selenelion Eclipses, that's a fact you can never deal with. You're too stupid to even understand the claim...
>>5775529>Lurker here.lol 1) you are definitionally not a lurker. 2) you're obviously this fag >>5775522, 3) if you're going to say my arguments are bad, you'd explain why, you don't and can't because I'm right. >I'm only here to watch your retard ass get beat up by simple questions.correct, you're a CTIL shill sent to counter signal flat earth. I know that. >>5775524>projectingclaiming the Biblical view of cosmology is a satanic psyop is a whole new level of blasphemy. As a dedicated midwit you're certainly an atheist. Better hope you're right lol.
5775520>this entire word wall hinges on the fact that a "firmament" proves the earth is flat, which it doesntno I never made that argument. >out of context and likely cherrypicked excerpts organized neatly in a jpg, very coollikely is doing a lot of work there chumpsuch absolutely light work no webms, no (you)s
>>5775537where does the bible say it's flat?
>>5775539the (you) isnt needed bc this is a nonsensical reply and has no merit or meaning
5775542>where does the bible say it's flat?literally every depiction or reference to earth. 5775547>the (you) isnt needed bc this is a nonsensical reply and has no merit or meaninggood
>>5775536>no they have "?"wrong again chuddie a ? indicates a query string and if it was followd by si= then thats a tracking linkthis one has tracking with ?si= in it: https://youtu.be/71FRE9cZczw?si=8udJYddtUFxxoZRpwatch the video and you'll understand what happened and what data is exposedif you dont trust the tracking link just youtube search "Flat Earth Dave's App Massive Security Breach"i dont expect you will though and come up with yet another lame excuse>because that's not a shadow of the earth, which is the entire point retard>the black sunfucking LMAOOOOdo you have any source material I could read about the black sun?genuinely asking
>>5775537wrong about the same fagyour arguments are terrible but my replies are not from the lurker
>>5775555coping and seething
>>5775555>>5775542>>5775537>>5775567when the bible talks about the second coming of christ it references that the rapture will happen 'world wide' because some people will be working and others will be sleepingindicating a greater understanding of the planet>Luke 17:34–36 (NIV)>"I tell you, on that night two people will be in one bed; one will be taken and the other left. Two women will be grinding grain together; one will be taken and the other left."
>>5775570>the bible said people will be sleeping AND working while the rapture will happen>therefore theres a "understanding" about the planet
5775563>wrong again chuddie a ? indicates a query string and if it was followd by si= then thats a tracking linkk>watch the videopost a non-tracking link or upload the video>if you dont trust the tracking link just youtube search "Flat Earth Dave's App Massive Security Breach"no>i dont expect you will though and come up with yet another lame excusewrong. >fucking LMAOOOOyour model is literally incompatible with a recurring observation. You have no position to judge my explanation, which is possible, when yours is impossible. >do you have any source material I could read about the black sun?its originally a Vedic idea. >genuinely askinganyone saying that isn't. why are you posting FE clips? Just well poisoning? 5775566>wrong about the same fagno I'm not. You used an incognito tab retard.>your arguments are terrible but my replies are not from the lurkerthere is no reply from a lurker. That's definitionally impossible new fag. 5775567>coping and seethingwith what? 5775570>when the bible talks about the second coming of christ it references that the rapture will happen 'world wide' because some people will be working and others will be sleeping>indicating a greater understanding of the planetdo you think FE doesn't include a day night cycle? >>5775578the people who defend the globe these days are 100% former military government shills, they're so fucking retarded they signed up for the military recently, and so emotionally damaged they were separated from the military, they are nearly incapable of making even cogent arguments.
>>5775586>post a non-tracking link or upload the videothe first one didn't have a tracking link you just dont know what you're talking abouthttps://files.catbox.moe/q7g97w.mp4>black sun>its originally a Vedic idea.>genuinely askingi do have a genuine curiosity about what you're referring to when it comes to the black sunFE helped shine a light on the fact that NASA has been lying to us for yearsso there might be some truth in 'the black sun' but i would rather see it myself than take some retards word about it on 4chan>incognito tabno one is waiting 15 minutes to reply to your dumb ass just to avoid being called a samefag>>5775578you see how stupid it sounds to say the bible says the earth is flat now?
>>5775594>the first one didn't have a tracking link you just dont know what you're talking aboutI don't care. why can't you actually post the video? >i do have a genuine curiosity no you don't. You literally have zero proof for the standard model, not an OUNCE of evidence for curvature. >you see how stupid it sounds to say the bible says the earth is flat now?There is no dispute about the cosmology of the Bible.
>>5775596doesnt say anything about the earth being flat
>>5775604>doesnt say anything about the earth being flatexactly. it's a necessary thing if you have a dome, but they are very careful to not specify that aspect of the cosmology. Why do you think that is? hint: its the same reason you're here.This is among the prize jewels of secrets. Literally any topic you're assigned to is NECESSARILY true and also very important to them. Its fun probing to see which ideas are heavily counter signaled and which aren't.
>>5775566oh also the entire reason you faggots got rid of the IP counter is because I'm SO FUCKING GOOD at identifying faggot shills like you.
>>5771406
>>5775622globies post that thinking that it's proof of curvature, but under your model, you can't possibly see curvature from that height so it's ACTUALLY an excellent demonstration of how mirages/heavy refraction can cause observations that can look like curvature and are used to make the claim of curvature despite being just an optical illusion.
>>5775614firmament is just a reference to the atmosphere>>5775617confidently incorrect
How many people actually believe this? Is it just OP dumping his entire collection of videos and replying with schizo rage to anyone who laughs at him?
>>5775627TFE failed, there was no 24 hours sun that was live streamed. the basic premise of the experiment laid out by you guys failedYou literally proved FE based on your own terms.
>>5775460that math checks out. anyone?
>>5775633>that math checks out. anyone?suntooand using trig you can get a pretty good estimate for height.
>>5775632there is a livestream replayi would post it but you're gonna chimp out about tracking
>>5775630>How many people actually believe this? Is it just OP dumping his entire collection of videos and replying with schizo rage to anyone who laughs at him?It's hard to say, they poll it less and less and it seems to be accelerating. It's increasingly hard to encounter people who are genuinely willing to defend the globe, it's been 100% government shills for about a year or so. Some think it's as high as 15-20%among organic users of /pol/ I'd say it's a significant majority. Among right wing social media users, it'd say it;s 30-40% organic users at least. The coolest thing is, the fastest way to become a flat earther is trying to debunk FE. So just our existence generates this tension in people's psyche, which eventually causes them to conduct some experiment to test flat earth, which INVARIABLY comes back showing the earth is flat. I can tell you're human because you're not willing to defend the globe, you don't care enough to know that much, and you're open to it because of how much the government has been shown to be lying recently. And you're willing to at least openly consider it. Kudo. A bot/shill narrative to counter signal FE is to claim no one believes it. That's obviously not true.
>>5775628excellent, thank you friend. saved.
>>5775641the whole game is to give you enough of a push to dismiss it. We win the moment a person pauses to think about it.
>>5775640Ok, so it's just you OP, the lone schizo posting all these things. You do know that nobody else believes this retardation right?
>>5775637>there is a livestream replay>i would post it but you're gonna chimp out about trackingI watched the stream, the stream failed several times. THat was literally the entire point. By YOUR TERMS the experiment failed. You did not transmit a 24 hour live stream of the sun. that's it.
>>5775625why is the horizon flat while on the ground and curves when you get high? https://youtu.be/4QsEPEhq5yk?si=hteRkRbt0im-BiHD
>>5775636>and using trig you can get a pretty good estimate for height.
>>5775647i set no termswho do you think I am exactly?i found the 24hr one
>>5775636sun movement is based on earth rotation on a spinning ball
>>5775645>Ok, so it's just you OP, the lone schizo posting all these things.I'm not even oplol how are you wrong about something you're literally experiencing right now? hahahahha> the lone schizo posting all these thingssocial shaming, excellent, gotta signal to people that this idea is unacceptable to post about but not actually engage in any meaningful discussion because--obviously--that would lead to more correct, potentially convincing information about FE. >. You do know that nobody else believes this retardation right?watch the video you're replying to (if you have eyes). >>5775656you're a CTIL Shill, former military, currently working a flat earth job, probably for a NATO military contractor near a foreign military base, likely Germany. You're defending the globe using the results of TFE (the final experiment). Try not to get triggered into delusions of persecution too much there you NPD all-star, I mean the people who organized TFE implicitly setout terms, they failed those terms, therefore TFE proved the earth was flat.
>>5775658None of those video clips make any sense. They start with completely false assumptions and continue on with completely wrong interpretations.I'd just want a flat earther to show me a map of the Earth. And then explain how I've been able to travel around it. I'd be particularly interested in seeing how you can make all the long distance flights I have taken still work out on your map.
>>5775648>why is the horizon flat while on the ground and curves when you get high?it's not. most balloon and rocket cameras are gopros which have a figheye lens. You can tell fisheye lenses because if the centerline crosses the middle of the screen, the horizon will switch between convex and concave, which happens in that video.
>>5775667>it's not.Uh yes it is. It's literally the same lens, in the same angle, that shows the horizon flat and when it goes up high enough you can start to see the curvature.
>>5775657>sun movement is based on earth rotation on a spinning ballprove it. you can't. >>5775664>None of those video clips make any sense.describe them>They start with completely false assumptions and continue on with completely wrong interpretations.go through the assumptions and articulate their falsity. >I'd just want a flat earther to show me a map of the Earthno you don't want that, you want to spam that request repeatedly as sea lioning despite knowing what a flat earth map looks like.
>>5775672I posted a screenshot from the video with a convex horizon retards.
>>5775658>you're a CTIL Shill, former military, currently working a flat earth jobi really do seem that smart>You're defending the globe using the results of TFE (the final experiment).i've provided plenty of other info besides TFE
>>5775673I definitely want to see your flat Earth map. You do have one right? I'm interested in how it presents the distances between a few major far-away cities.
>>5775679>i really do seem that smartthey're emotionally damaged retards, they're among the dumbest idiots on the internet. Think how dumb you have to be to wash out of the military given the recruiting shortfalls. And 100% of them are diagnosed with NPD, which is also why you're so desperate for a job that you're willing to do this patently evil one; your such an abusive cock sucker you don't last long at any job (like your time in the military for example).
>>5775680>I definitely want to see your flat Earth map. You do have one right? I'm interested in how it presents the distances between a few major far-away cities.
Flat earthers can never explain this little site:https://www.flightradar24.comIt must be because no flat earther has ever been on an airplane. How do you explain the above? Other than "it's all fake by the CIA"? Go ahead and point out what's fake about it. All the flights are accurately tracked in real time, and placed on the map. So can you do a flat earth model of this?
>>5775694go to https://earth.nullschool.net/open projections pick a flat oneyou can project the flight data on to any map
If you throw a ball, it makes a curved shape, it doesn't just go in a straight line.
>>5775694>Flat earthers can never explain this little site:tracking planes isn't proof of a globe.
time cube>flat earth
>>5775368>it is not an entirely physical concept.True, however it does call it a "molten glass" and a "sapphire throne" at multiple points, which implies some sort of solid, tangible factor.
>>5775743That map can only work on a globe Earth. It's quite literally impossible to draw a flat map that would still work with all those flights and their locations and times.
this kills the flat earther
>>5775460did this in stellarium and it's the same resultgiven the speed and size of the moon it should take about 55 minutes to travel its diameter, but it only takes about 2 min 36s
>>5775806inb4 (((stellarium)))
>>5775460What's the source for all those numbers? Lots of wild assumptions there.
>>5775809those are official numbersapproximately
>>5775828Official from... where? Who calls them official?
>>5775830you know... NASA & co
>>5775831Ok, can you link to the NASA site where they list those numbers? And why the expect people just to believe them without checking them? NASA would surely have extensive math and models and evidence to accompany them.
>>5775838do you have an impediment that prevents you from looking stuff up yourself?https://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/planetary/factsheet/moonfact.htmlhttps://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/planetary/factsheet/earthfact.html
>>5775844>inb4 the numbers aren't therethe orbital velocity of the moon is given in km/s so you will have to convert it to km/hthe rotational speed of the earth is derived from calculating the circumference and dividing it by the time it takes for one rotation (24h)
>>5775848
>>5775848>>5775849
>>5775397>it's far awayNASA's favorite thing to say. All the stars appear as exactly the same size? They're just all exactly as far away as they need to be, by pure chance! How far? Idk like 187,000,000,000 light-years or something, don't ask us how we know that LOL
>>5775373>It's not literal!Then what does "the earth is unmoving" mean?
>>5775392Based video. We need more in depth descriptions like this. Saved
>>5775876stellar parallax
>>5775877it means thatyou can not neither listen or read
>>5775877the earth isnt moving relative to you. its not relative to, say, other planets>>5775886nice double negative retard
23 hour sun in the midsummer where I live really shows to me that earth cannot be flat
>>5775797>That map can only work on a globe Earth.>It's quite literally impossible to draw a flat map that would still work with all those flights and their locations and times.you can literally project any global map data onto a flat earth map. and it's often more harmonious and logical. >>5775806wait until you try to measure curvature. There's a panic that grips you, took me a few weeks before I'd accept it. see >>5771729>>5775809>What's the source for all those numbers? Lots of wild assumptions there.pick the one you think is most wild, what number specifically.
>>5775831and now you encounter your first experience with the nature of the automated bots that counter signal this topic, an in their own way prove it. it's called sealioning, see >>5775673Actually one of the best proofs of FE is to larp as a flat earther and observe the automated swarm attack. >>5775865some revelation of the method, nice., >>5775879>Based video. We need more in depth descriptions like this. Savedty.>>5775885>stellar parallaxThere literally is none, the constellations should change shape in winter v summer they don't. Which proves all teh stars are the same distance away, which is inconsistent with the standard model.
>>5775877>Then what does "the earth is unmoving" mean?no it's literal. 100% of 'debunk' videos will just lie about what we believe. It's literal lthe earth is unmoving. >>5775889>the earth isnt moving relative to you. its not relative to, say, other planetsframe of reference, you can't actually determine which is moving. >>5775890>23 hour sun in the midsummer where I live really shows to me that earth cannot be flatwhy? you live in the north, that's consistent with flat earth
>>5775899>there literally is nonethis is false>the constellations should changenot with the naked eye. with crude consumer telescopes, compared to actual high precision installations like observatories, you can still see near stars move relative to the background>which proves all teh stars are the same distance awayit doesnt>>5775901>thats consistent with flat earthbut polar days near the antarctic circle arent, got it
>>5775901flat earth cannot have summer on one side and winter on another.even more so flat earth cannot have night.it's all so ducking tiresome, create a model then start talking to me about "consistency of a flat earth" you disingenuous fuck
>>5773497>you won't because it doesn't confirm globe earthMost people won't because they're not going to drop 20k on a forgone conclusion. But I actually used to maintain lrg's for ship navigation so I wouldn't have to
>>5773502Why not?
>>5771411wasn't this the south pole though?
>>5775414it also shifts hue i wonder what causes that?
>>5775961
>>5774648there's just this thing called a "vanishing point" where parallel lines appear to converge the further away from your eyeballs they get, and the Sun is very far away
>>5775504>read the rest of the email shownso it was negligible given the other conditions of wind and variable temperature, but in a vacuum definitely would've been a consideration?
>>5775674get rekd
>>5776065you're magnifying barrel distortion from the lens. you retards have 2 tricks and I know them both.
>>5776054>so it was negligibleno it was non existence. >given the other conditions of wind and variable temperature, it there was literally no indication it existed. 30 seconds of travel, no affect for rotation. >but in a vacuum definitely would've been a consideration?No. Why would you think a vacuum would change anything. If you literally don't have to account for Coriolis during a shot with nearly 30 seconds of flight time, there is no rotation.
>>5776025>there's just this thing called a "vanishing point"no kidding, that's that whole premise of the horizon but globies to pretend there's a physical horizon. But the vanishing point in perspective is at the horizon, not up into a cloud, also the sunbeams are moving lol. >and the Sun is very far awayprove it, you can't.
>>5776009>it also shifts hue i wonder what causes that?there's more atmosphere between you and the moon the lower in the sky it is, there'll be some amount of particulates in the near-ground atmosphere, I assume that's causing the coloration. I was really tripped out by how the moon and sky seem to move as if connected, at the exact same speed. >>5776003>wasn't this the south pole though?yes, but weirdly the sun almost looks the MOST small and local during 24 hour sun videos from the south pole, although they have thus far all been fake.
>>5775993>Most people won't because they're not going to drop 20k on a forgone conclusion.also because it's not forgone, you just literally cannot do your own science and cannot produce ANY evidence for the globe earth. >>5775998>Why not?it's called the three body problem, if you google it, you'll notice a trick they pull where they name some dumbshit pop culture thing after something they're trying to bury. Basically, gravity doesn't allow for stable solar systems to arise naturally. see >>5773502>>5775957>>5775961notice you can't make an argument for produce evidence, but can only use social shaming. here's the ice wall.
>>5775948>flat earth cannot have summer on one side and winter on another.correct, one season is on the inside, the other is on the outside, maybe you should familiarize yourself with our basic claims before you make pronouncements faggot. The red lines are the tropics, the sun moves along the tropics, when it's moving along the inner tropic, it's summer in the 'northern hemisphere' and vice versa.
>>5775912>this is falseConstellations don't change shape between winter and summer. If there were parallax, Orion would get fatter in the winter or something. But NONE of the constellations change at all, despite all the stars in every constellation allegedly being different depths. Notice how you negated me without argument or contradictory evidence, because you're wrong and not operating in good faith. >not with the naked eye.there's literally none, you have to trust the government. You cannot prove there's any parallax. >compared to actual high precision installations like observatories, you can still see near stars move relative to the backgroundno you can't ever see a star move relative to the background, you fucking retards don't understand the frame of reference, it's wild. You can only notice movement compared to a frame of reference, you'd only be able to see stellar parallax by comparing it to another star. regardless, there's no demonstrable parallax in all but--the allege--1 star (for some gay reason). vid rel is a visualization of the kind of movement there should be for stars over long periods of time, we've observed none. >it doesntyes, if there's no discernable parallax the only conclusion is the stars are all the same distance away. >but polar days near the antarctic circle arent, got it24 hour polar days are not consistent with typical understandings of FE cosmology, which is why TFE sought to 'prove' globe earth be documenting the 24 hour sun. But 1) they failed, and 2) why fly to Antarctica at all? Curvature is everywhere right?" Just measure it. But they can't because no one can because there is none.
>>5776065>>5776146also there's still no discernable curve lol
>>5775417>the dumbfucks that rack up concussions for a living believe flat earthokay
>>5775961Based anon, I was thinking about and just about to post this webm but scanned the thread first to see if someone else did.
>>5775898How does wrapping from left to right work there? Are there magical border teleporters? When a plane flies west from America, how does it end up in Japan?
>>5776203There's no wrapping you're a retard. No one has ever circumnavigated north south. When they claim to have done it, they literally go up and then turn around and go back. The TFE people should have just flown home the other way and that would have been better proof than that the stream they failed to produce. But they were just in a volume studio so its not like they actually could have done that.
>>5776209>No one has ever circumnavigated north south.Uh, plenty of people have. What are you smoking? And you didn't explain how a plane flying west from America ends up in Japan.
>>5776213>Uh, plenty of people have. What are you smoking?nope. >And you didn't explain how a plane flying west from America ends up in Japan.you're being a dumb nigger asking a retard question that's not even applicable to my model. You're too dumb for flat earth, we don't want you, you dumb fat glownigger.
>>5776168
>>5776220If it's not applicable to your model then doesn't that mean your model is wrong? Since you can't explain how a plane flying west from America ends up in Japan.
>>5776229>If it's not applicable to your model then doesn't that mean your model is wrong?no it means you're a dumb nigger that didnt' wait 8 seconds.>Since you can't explain how a plane flying west from America ends up in Japan.There's nothing to explain, you're asking questions about the normal map because you're too stupid and lazy to wait 8 second for the FE map how fucking retarded and impatient are you nigger?
>>5776162>constellations dont changeagain, the change is microscopic, but still measurable>cannot prove theres any parallax you can with stars that are closer, as they will shift more than farther away stars>theres no demonstrable parallax in all butok so first theres no parallax at all, all the stars are displayed on the firmament or whatever. now there *is* parallax, but its ok bc its some random star i named>if theres no discernable parallaxthere is, you just need something a little bit better than a paper towel roll and some lenses to actually see a difference>curvature is everywherethis is true, however, same with measuring parallax, youd need something precise to measure horizontal curvature (idk if youre talking about horizontal or vertical, you never specify) at low altitude
>>5776220see >>5775475
>>5776220https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_circumnavigationsAnd the first north-south:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transglobe_ExpeditionLet's see you autistically screech all of these are fake. Funny how you angrily call everyone else idiots yet your IQ is obviously in the bottom 0.001%.
As someone who likes astrophotography and learning about the movement of the night sky, there is absolutely no explanation flat earthers can put forward for why the southern sky has completely different constellations and rotates in the opposite direction. Ask them to explain why every motorized equatorial mount has a little switch on it "N --- S" that makes it auto-rotate in the opposite direction based on hemisphere.Like give any flat earther a smorgasbord of high-end refractors, Newtonians, ultra-sensitive DSLR or astro cameras, etc. and then both put up a shitload of money and they get the pot if even a single one of them can take a photo of (say) the Carina Nebula from Canada or the UK.
>>5775460someone eggsblain it to a retard
>>5775360So whats more likely, that the consensus on the interpretation of that term isnt as air tight as you make it seem vs everyone from pilots to scientists is in a secret society lying to the sheep about basic laws of physics and every country is involved kek. The second one right. This isn't just retardation, its retard narcissism. With the typical "I don't have to explain physical laws or make my own model, i just get to say that you're dumb for belieiving theirs and im smart" even though you depend on the science and technology it creates and is repeatable just like everyone elseIt all comes together almost like a fractal ..the more you zoom in or out. Earth is a sphere rotating around its axis and around the sun which is 99% of the solar systems mass. And the solar system rotates around the center of the galaxy, the galaxy fuck knows. Even at the atomic level you have the the high density protons and neutrons in the middle surrounded by a sphere of electrons.
>>5776360Basically someone takes numbers from NASA that apply to a round Earth model and the Moon rotating around Earth, and then uses them to calculate something completely wrong an unapplicable, and comes up with a ridiculous retarded result.
>>5776384point out the error
>>5776404As usual with schizos, there isn't so much to disprove as the whole thing makes no sense at all from the start. You're taking two different angular velocities. Then somehow you compare them on a linear plane. You don't even take the distance to the Moon into account at all.
>>5776427what makes no sense?point out the error
>>5776471You're taking two angular velocities and then suddenly treating them as if they were two cars traveling in parallel on the same road. That doesn't work at all. Why would you think they do? When you do things like this, the first thing you do is draw a picture. I can't see any picture someone could draw with those numbers and somehow come to your conclusion.That's not even counting all the other details that make no sense.
>>5776404>>5776360tl:dr flat earther had to make sure that when he zoomed in his camera settings wouldn't show you any background stars (why is the moon lit up like a lightbulb but no stars are visible once zoomed in, does he not have even basic abilities to change things like ISO or exposure, or even an auto night-time mode?) because he didn't want you to see him making up stuff with circles and timers against how far the moon actually travels over time. Longer:If you go out at night and try and hold a telescope, camera, binoculars, etc. on an object in the night sky you will quickly notice that everything (except the north star, Polaris) appears to rotate/move out of the field of view. This is called the sidereal motion of the stars, and it's why if you want to hold your camera, telescope, binos, etc. steady on an object you need a fancy mount (e.g. an equatorial) that rotates in the opposite motion to counter this and thus give you a steady view. Now these sidereal-adjusted mounts are great for stars, nebula, etc., but then when you center this on the moon you're going to notice a problem, it doesn't seem to track and the moon "moves" against the background stars at about ~33 arcminutes (~0.5 degrees) per hour, slowly going out of view. This is because the moon has it's own independent orbit around the earth (lunar rate) which is different than the sidereal rate that the night sky appears to rotate in. Thus if you have a fancy equatorial mount you will have settings for the regular sidereal rate, and a slower one for the lunar rate. 1/2
>>5776483For some concrete numbers, the moon is about ~30 arcminutes in angular diameter in the sky. It travels about ~33 arcminutes in an hour against the background stars, so a little less than an hour to travel it's own diameter. You can see this yourself trivially by going out at the same time on consecutive nights and seeing the moon "move" about 13 degrees against the background stars relative to where it was the night before. The reason you check this against sidereal motion is that you want to compensate for background movement so that you have a fixed measuring stick you're calculating stuff off of. You would have to compensate for a spinning dome just as much as you would for a spinning earth.Now the problem flat earthers have is they don't want you doing this. In flat earth cosmology, everything is very close and very small in order for it to make even vague sense. The problem with astronomy they have is that it absolutely obliterates their views because none of the math works (see: >>5776355 image).The good news for them is that very few people know anything about astronomy, it tends to be math-heavy, and if you use intentionally bad imaging and are willing to lie with a bunch of fake circles and data you can convince most people of basically anything. For example, you almost never see flat earthers make any effort whatsoever to explain why the southern hemisphere has different constellations rotating around a different pole and in the opposite direction, despite this being completely fatal to their cosmology. It's because they don't have to, almost no one knows any of this. Flat earth theory is essentially predicated on being a con artist but instead of selling people on pyramid schemes you're selling them on schizophrenic, low IQ cosmology that makes them feel like they have secret knowledge.
>>5776481>>5776483>>5776500lolhe can't point out the error
>>5773513I don't know which curvature calculation this idiot used but it's wrong. 30 miles is basically flat still. I see 40 miles to a tower every day
>>5776158>video evidence of someone flying over the ice sheet in antarctica >:^[>video evidence of someone filming the ice sheet in antarctica :^0
>>5775898the opposite directions of the swirling currents you see across the north and south hemispheres are due to the coriolis effect, btw.
>>5776146barrel distortion has a heavier effect on objects closer to the edges of frame. the fact that the levels, which are closer to the top and bottom edges of the frame, have less pronounced distortion than the horizon itself should indicate that there's something else going on here
>>5776156thanks. if that's the case, then im now wondering if that additional atmosphere and dust also reduce the glare from the moon, making it appear smaller at the horizon than from its zenith
>>5774649How fast would the flat earth sun be travelling? I assume 24h per lap? Wouldn't you be able to zoom past it with ease if you were flying a plane?
>>5776161>our model requires special pleading to work that's why it's so realyou are one dumb motherfucker. the fact that you have to change laws of physics for your shitty brainless shit to work shows how stupid you are.
>>5771761The navy could not blockade all of Antartica. Rent a fucking boat and go.
>>5773785>Shows sun setting behind horizon>says its shrinking when that clearly isn't the case
>>5776158>it's called the three body problem, if you google it, you'll notice a trick they pull where they name some dumbshit pop culture thing after something they're trying to bury.Glad other people are noticing they do this too.
>>5776333lollmaogg
>>5776355>As someone who likes astrophotography and learning about the movement of the night sky, there is absolutely no explanation flat earthers can put forward for why the southern sky has completely different constellations and rotates in the opposite direction.you can just see a different portion of the globe. Show me a time lapse of the southern celestial pole. I'm not convinced that happens, 100% of them online have fake obviously added-in-post star trails. You know what globies can't do? produce any evidence of curvature. We can positively and directly prove the earth is flat. see >>5771729 and you have no evidence at all.
>>5776364>So whats more likelythe proposition with evidence. >>5776427>As usual with schizos, there isn't so much to disprove as the whole thing makes no sense at all from the start.you can't prove the curve, we can prove it's flat. literally just measure the earth, this is exceptionally easy. >>5776612>I don't know which curvature calculation this idiot used but it's wrong. 30 miles is basically flat still. I see 40 miles to a tower every daynope you're wrong. >>5776757what?>>5776769>he opposite directions of the swirling currents you see across the north and south hemispheres are due to the coriolis effect, btw.there is no Coriolis effect see 5775504
>>5776998>The navy could not blockade all of Antartica. Rent a fucking boat and go.measure the curvature beneath your feet, you can't.
>>5777007you're so fat sly >>57769311) there no change of physics in the comment you're replying to, but 2) yes, gravity is absolute nonsense and has never worked.
>>5776815>How fast would the flat earth sun be travelling? Iit's trivial to figure out you're just stupid. >>5776780>thanks. if that's the case, then im now wondering if that additional atmosphere and dust also reduce the glare from the moon, making it appear smaller at the horizon than from its zenithhow would particulates make something shink?
>>5776931>how stupid you are.Sly how do you cope with the fact that you've never one time beaten me in any argument about anything ever. You've literally never beat youI have a 100% win rate over you. oh right, the narcissism is how you deal with that, you abuse people and things that are smaller than you to make you feel better that you're forced by poverty to working for a satanic government slandering the God that you will meet sooner than you think.
>>5777058>there is no coriolis effectyour source is a video of a guy saying he didnt bother to account for it, how does that disprove it in any way? And then what else explains the patterns of large weather systems across the north and south parts of the map?
>>5777064>how would particulates make something shink?its just that extra layers of haze and stuff between the moon and the camera would dim the light. if the camera settings are set for the relative brightness of the moon when it was lower in the sky, then when it gets higher and clearer then it would also be more blown out, appearing bigger in camera. sorry im just trying to make sense of this
>>5777102>your source is a video of a guy saying he didnt bother to account for itright, you can ignore it, and still make the world record longest shot. That's incredibly convincing. You're just stupid and not capable of being convinced. > how does that disprove it in any way? you're so incredibly retarded. > And then what else explains the patterns of large weather systems across the north and south parts of the map?You literally don't have evidence for curvature, why do you faggots always pretend like you MUST HAVE EVERY detail explained to you in order to believe it. You accepted the globe without a single piece of evidence.
>>5777105>its just that extra layers of haze and stuff between the moon and the camera would dim the light.right particulates would dim the brightness of light shining through it wouldn't magnify the image. The atmosphere itself dose that, and that's why under normal conditions you can't notice any size change, because the atmospheric lensing magnifies it as it gets smaller. You can't use that to negate the sun because the sun is the largest overhead, when there's the least atmosphere between you and the sun. You're going to need new cope.
>>5777067you don't win an argument, if you think arguments are there to be won or lost means you are a retard.your worldview isn't consistent with reality and never will be you fucking moron.You are a waste of space and you believes are a joke.
>>57770631) we know how light works this means flat earth cannot have a night2) gravity is a fact that has been proven more times than flatearth was mentioned, ever.
>>5777242>1) we know how light works this means flat earth cannot have a nightsee >>5777249gg no re >2) gravity is a fact that has been proven more times than flatearth was mentioned, ever.Gravity is meant to explain the motion of celestial bodies right? did you know it can't actually do that? Gravity literally cannot be used to determine the speed and location of celestial objects in a normal solar system. It's called 'the three body problem' almost no one knows about itsee >>5777251That's the absolute bare minimum of what a theory like gravity is supposed to do. If it cannot do that, if we KNOW it's wrong, why has it been kept around for so long? To keep us away from free energy. see >>5777250
>>5777239>you don't win an argument,correct, I've won every single dispute we've ever had about anything. I don't win an argumentI win all the arguments.
>>5775460ugh i'm dumbof course the moon is moving that fast because of earth's rotationit takes the moon about 27.3 days for one full revolution, that's aout 13.2 degrees in one daythis has not been taken into account
>>5777256I know you are 100% role playing.Let's see how you answer these:Have you ever flown in an airplane?Have you ever seen one of the many videos the rockets that go into space take where you see earth is a sphere? Or do you believe all of them are flat.
>>5777292Or do you believe all of them are fake?*
>>5777254>look if we special plead and create models that don't represent reality we kinda can do a thing but not really.stop being an absolute room temp IQ.no solution can create night on a plane even if your post you want me to look at clearly shows that you cannot have season or NIGHT
>>5777118im on your side, retard
>>5777292>>5777313also while you're at it, you gonna reply to this one >>5776779
>>5777292>I know you are 100% role playing.you know i"m not. If you thought I was doing this for your gay ass benefit you massive over estimate your likability, I endure you to post truths. >Let's see how you answer these:suck my dick nigger you don't have a single piece of evidence for your claims. None. You are in no position to make demands. >Have you ever flown in an airplane?this is a stupid tactic, nearly everyone looked for the curve the first time they went up in a plane and nearly everyone was told it can't be seen from that atmosphere. Sometime in the mid 2000s someone realized that you SHOULD be able to, and you retards just decided to start claiming you can see curvature from commercial planes; good, every single person that tests that will be one step closer to being flat earther. You guys are strategic retards. >Have you ever seen one of the many videos the rockets that go into space take where you see earth is a sphere?No, there is no video like that that exists. 100% of those videos are demonstrably taken with goros and use a fisheye lens to make the flat ass horizon appear curved. Which is why the horizon goes inverted if the horizon dips below the center line. seeyou faggots posting this link (but not video because you're all dumb fags)>>5775667my reply showing concave earth. and then the actual view when you correct for fisheye lens. >>5775674fag
>>5777319>stop being an absolute room temp IQ.I'm smarter than you, you've never one engaged in the merits of this topic, nor have you attacked any of my argument, you have lost every single battle you've fought, not a single piece of evidence you've posted or argument you've made has survived scrutiny. You use psyops because you're defending one. >no solution can create night on a plane even if your post you want me to look at clearly shows that you cannot have season or NIGHTsure except there's video proof you're wrong. see >>5777249>>5777324>im on your side, retardno you're not. You're on the retard side. You're too dumb for Flat Earth, you aren't allowed to believe it in anymore. >>5776779>barrel distortion has a heavier effect on objects closer to the edgesSo you know barrel distortion exists? So when you distorted that photo you were intentionally lying that it was evidence for curvature right? gg
>>5776779>the fact that the levels, which are closer to the top and bottom edges of the frame, have less pronounced distortion than the horizon itself should indicate that there's something else going on hereare you suggesting the the levels are actually curved you fucking actual drooling retard.
>>5777334>you know i"m not.We're left to conclude that you are either deliberately trolling in bad faith, or are profoundly dumb. We just want to be charitable here
>>5771729I am more inclined to believe this one because the creator of it added in more of the 'lady' from first frame at the end. Anyone that classy can't be a liar.
>>5777340the non-animated gif shows red and green lines in order to illustrate that the levels are warped due to lens distortion. you're denying your own gay evidence now?
>>5777341>We're left to conclude that you are either deliberately trolling in bad faith, or are profoundly dumb. We just want to be charitable hereYou can say I'm trolling but despite this being your Job you literally cannot produce any evidence of what you claim to believe.
>>5777342>I am more inclined to believe tyou have no authority to control your thoughts you mind-whore. you think what you're told to think. You can't even blank out and let him use your body like a regular whore. You are filled up with your employers will. You're a disgusting subhuman. You literally renounced your will for money. its impossible for anyone to respect you whore.
>>5777344nta but out of curiosity, what would you consider to be sufficient enough evidence to prove a globe model?
>>5777343you are sincerely stupid. ok, look at the non-distorted photos. YOu see objects, objects you've interacted with in your life (or similar anyway). You KNOW from your personal expierience that levels and tables are flat. you KNOW from your own experiences that these objects are flat. But they APPEAR curved when you heavily distort the image right? You KNOW the objects are straight, and yet when you distort the photo they appear curvedTake as long as you need to apply this to the horizon you're claiming is curved. holy fucking shit you might be the dumbest glownigger I've ever interacted with.
>>5777347>ntayes you are and you're not an asshole, you were kicked out of the military because you have an untreatable personality defect that will ENSURE no one can ever love you. >, what would you consider to be sufficient enough evidence to prove a globe model?FUCKING MEASURE THE GROUND YOU FUCKING MUNGNothing can convince me that the earth is a globe because I've measured the flatness of the earth out to dozens of miles. there are proofs of that ITT here's one. >>5771723 another>>5771729 another >>5773513
>>5777347by the way, social engineers are enemies of all mankind and there will come a time when you must lie about this time in your life to avoid being murdered by spontaneous mobs righteously angry at the war crime you're in the middle of committing.
>>5777350>yes you are>and you're not an asshole, you were kicked out of the military because you have an untreatable personality defect that will ENSURE no one can ever love you.youre right, you got me.but youre wrong about one thing. I don't get paid to shill. i do it for free. I do it out of my sheer love of evil
>>5775445What's the source on this whole video?I can't find it but have tried a couple times.
>>5777352>youre right, you got me.you don't have to tell me. >but youre wrong about one thingnah>I don't get paid to shill. i do it for free.you're wrong. You actually are paying the highest possible price for what you're doing. Since becoming a Christian I am surprised by how little comfort I get from the concept of God, I guess I just think since he allowed himself to be tortured to death, he probably wouldn't really prevent that from happening to me. But I get SO MUCH comfort from thinking about people like you screaming in agony as you burn in hell for eternity. by far the best part about coming back to Christ.
>>5777355it looks similar to this https://youtu.be/VNL_eN6dvhs maybe it's from that dude.
>>5777337there is no evidence you dunce you can clearly see light leaking across the lens on the bottom meaning everyone will see light at any time of day and meaning there is no true night. you are a creating with 0 critical thinking skills.
>>5777365Thanks, but that didn't lead to anything.The search continues.
>>5777368>there is no evidence you dunce you can clearly see light leaking across the lens on the bottom meaning everyone will see light at any time of day and meaning there is no true night. you are a creating with 0 critical thinking skills.well we'll let the people decide, is some faggot lying to them, or their eyes. >>5777369>Thanks, but that didn't lead to anything.>The search continues. I always thought it was an anime for some reason.
>>5777372>we let the people decidewe did, they decided that earth is a planet over 2000 years ago. Cretinus Maximus.
>>5777377>we did, they decided that earth is a planet over 2000 years ago. Cretinus Maximus.that's a story told to retards, Eratosthenes never existed and his gay experiment could not prove the globe.
>>5777379That's crazy. nobody was talking about this you are talking about. if you think there is one proof of earth being round from 2000 years ago you are absolute retard
>>5777355https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZK1VBjneCbAI found this.BUTIt doesn't contain the footage shown in the webms the other anon posted and the yt channel linked here doesn't have any other videos, indicating it's likely a reupoload of someone else's videos.Dunno where the originals are from.
>>5777381>That's crazy. nobody was talking about this you are talking about. if you think there is one proof of earth being round from 2000 years ago you are absolute retardI don't. that's your position.
>>5777384>no uwow, what an amazing response really shows your intelligence level.
>>5777388you believe there's (at least ) proof of Globe earth 2000 years ago. I don't believe there's any. I refuted your claim.
>>5777396>I don't believeI don't give a shit what you believe.I don't believe earth is round I know it is with 100% certainty. you believe shit because you are a retard.
>>5777397>I know it is with 100% certaintylol
>>5777362thankfully I’m jewish so I don’t have to worry about hell.you can’t join though, sorry, ours is not such a whore house of a religion that lets anyone in.
>>5774660>on a globe, the compass apparently points to the core of the earthThe sheer and utter retardation in this thread is so unbelievable, I rather believe that all flat earthers here are just larping.
this brick wall of a thread is dying, lovely.
New thread:>>5777901>>5777901>>5777901
>>5777506>thankfully I’m jewish so I don’t have to worry about hell.you're atheist. >you can’t join though, sorry, ours is not such a whore house of a religion that lets anyone in.too cloistered even for God. >>5777748>The sheer and utter retardation in this thread is so unbelievable, I rather believe that all flat earthers here are just larping.that's a very common cope in left wing influence operations. >>5777789a natural deathyou might wonder what ideology could possibly be beneficial if it views open dialog as a threat.
>>5771729wait, what's going on in the last few seconds of the video??
>>5778803those are called titties my good manproof that God is still alive and deeply loves us.
>>5771406unironically turn yourself into fertilizer you waste of nitrogen
>>5776612Educate yourselfhttps://www.omnicalculator.com/physics/earth-curvature
