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I’m trying to become more social and outgoing after living for 25 years as a hermit. Obviously going out and talking to people is the main way to do this, but I’d like to know if there are any resources, such as books, that could help me out
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>>1504066
How to Win Friends and Influence People, Dale Carnegie
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you can also try discord voice chats
there are servers specifically meant for improving social skills
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>>1504066
off-the-wall suggestions but try "Impro" by Keith Johnstone and "The Gervais Principle" by Venkatesh Rao
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>>1504066
Khajiit is that one furry pedo right?
Who's dark elf?
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>>1504066
When things get that bad people block it out of their consciousness that it's even happening.

They will also jump to the opportunity that they must be superior if they don't have the same problem, and try to posture as the experts. Their only real "superiority" usually is not having the problem to begin with. It's like being the expert of healing your liver by the virtue of not having liver problems to begin with. People really like feeling like they're better so they will latch onto every chance they can to do that, and will convince themselves and others that it's the case.

For all I know it may not actually be fixable, and I don't say this lightly.

People who feel they are superior need it to look like you're just not doing enough so that they can justify their own superiority. If it's fucked for some people then they themselves are just lucky (or not fucked over) and not social gods. No one wants that. You speaking or making effort is a reminder to them that they are not that great and they will hate you.

There's some experimental stuff. You could count the number of interactions, try to rate them. Another approach is figuring out the ultimate (not proximate) reason for humans needing interaction in first place and trying to supplement that. It's guesses though. There's nothing solid I could honestly recommend. Anyone can write a book on anything, it doesn't mean dick that there's a book, it has to also actually work and be useful.

A lot of those guides you find will assume a baseline of you already knowing someone, or already having some contact with family that isn't fucked. If there isn't anything to work with it may just effectively be unworkable at this point. I think people try to prevent this instead of trying to fix it.
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>>1504194
gay defeatist cope based on nothing
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>>1504231
What do YOU got, acting like hot shit? Talking shit?

Guess it depends how bad it is. There are points beyond it's kind of "good luck", tell me I'm wrong. What, you gonna wave a magic wand? You gonna talk yourself into results? You gonna read a book, and make shit manifest?
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>>1504235
retarded word salad post
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>>1504273
Your mom. Enjoy your fantasy, manchild.
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>>1504194
this is just more freudian flawed bullshit assumption that all people are needlessly and entirely competitive. at any rate, us going at eachothers throats like this isn't going to give this poor guy any reason to want to talk to people.
>>1504066
if you want to talk to people more, try to listen to what they have to say. eavesdrop in a cafe or laundromat or whatever. listening is half of communication, so it's good to start there. it sounds weird, but talking to yourself is a good way to practice conversation fluently and naturally (just dont do it in public!) I was autistic and I didnt really start talking that much until I was older, and this is how I did it, so in theory this should work for you. you dont have to force yourself into a conversation, I guarantee that if your living in proximity with people, eventually, there will be a situation where you will feel a reason to talk, be it to help, advise, persuade or comfort, and that is likely the best time to make conversation. dont forget to make eye contact, its the hardest part. I just look at the nose.
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>>1504351
>assumption that all people are needlessly and entirely competitive
Not ALL people but I'd say it's about half.

There's also well meaning ones who want well but don't know the answer.

There's also people who fool themselves than the N'th year of chudmaxxing is gonna get them jack shit.

You're kinda fucked. Better off building something in the physical world instead of fooling oneself.

> us going at eachothers throats like this isn't going to give this poor guy any reason to want to talk to people
So what, lala world is better?

> if you want to talk to people more, try to listen to what they have to say.
Blah blah blah, you're the PUA expert who's gonna "lead" this guy. You're the social chad, cause some guy is worse off. Such a pretentious phoney, fuck you and fuck your gay tips.

> it sounds weird, but talking to yourself is a good way to practice conversation fluently
Oh yeah, talking to himself is gonna get him far, like the psyche ward maybe. Fuck you, you're not the PUA god, fuck off.

> I was autistic
Oh and now you're not, now you're the god of normalcy who is the god of the weirdos. Fuck you.

> and this is how I did it
And now you're plowing through pussy, eat a dick.

> so in theory this should work for you
If it's so great why don't you do it yourself and stop being such a pussy.

> I guarantee that if your living in proximity with people, eventually, there will be a situation where you will feel a reason to talk, be it to help, advise, persuade or comfort
Yeah, they will wanna be pals with an outcast. It's a happy lala world.

Don't believe this guy OP. You are best off asking LLM for tips on life, trying to work things out yourself, you might be fucked if parents and society fucked you over. They NEED you to think that you're just not trying hard enough because it's their ego - they're the self made chads - they have to have you think that if you wanted to you could be like them and you're just not making effort.
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>>1504354
There's no fucking materials. No one gives a fuck.

What they care about is their shit book deal in which they jerk off to what chads they are and how you can be like them if you stop being gay and realise that the author of the book is the giga chad you should worship.

I don't like JBP but he has a good point in that making things "a little bit less fucked" bit by bit is a real path. It won't lead you to any real solutions but it will make your life a bit more bearable.

Part of the problem is defining what even is supposed to happen. Just being physically present around other people in itself doesn't necessarily mean jack shit. Just because you receive a positive response doesn't mean anyone actually values you. People say nice things when they ghost you, because they're socialised to say nice things. The rot and decadence runs many levels deep. It's really dark and fucked. I think it's important not to let resentment destroy you. Fuck these self-help cucks.
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>>1504357
Now that I think about it, I don't think it can be conveyed in a book. Someone has to give a fuck about you IRL and if there isn't even one such person you might just be fucked. It's sad but it seems to be the case. The people fucking you over NEED you to believe that it's well deserved and that you are not doing enough because it gets them hard to talk down and absolves them of having to do dick. They're almost always sacks of absolute feces. If you objectively rank your skill they will almost always fall way below you, it just feels good to talk down to someone.

The root of this is people wanting themselves to be worshipped as gods. And if anything is working they want to use it themselves to further their own well-being and maybe of their own lineage (not a given), and will feed horse shit to other people that will get them sick and fucked up.

Another root of this is believing words of other people over what your eyes and gut are actually telling you. Usually the gut will be the truth - the words are just whatever bullshit you have to believe and say to get you through the day. Usually none of it is true.

One upside to this fucked up situation is that the earth and the sky welcome you, it's just these gate-keeping tramping-down turds that don't. It's their power trip to keep the foot on the gate, it gets them hard to do this. Without it they're nobody. The superior exist only in reference to the inferior. You're supposed to blame yourself for not lifting 50 million mountains. If you do lift them then that's the problem because you weren't actually supposed to or whatever, whatever the fuck, keeping you busy with bullshit that doesn't work. There's always some problem. Fuck these pigs. They don't know, they don't care.
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have a mental breakdown somewhere else please
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>>1504369
How about get a brain
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>>1504372
no u.
you're projecting your failures on op as though he has the same issues you do.
i think your brain needs an update, you clearly have no theory of mind.
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>>1504375
What's the matter, can't be the gigachad of socialising now?

Only failure here is you. You don't control what is and isn't true, you don't control the narrative, especially not you.

You're just looking for an angle to dunk on me rather my theory of mind being actually lacking. I made some guesses about his situation but it can't be too off.

You don't have shit, only thing you have is your supposed superstar status. You're a fucking dumbass, fuck you. You're nobody.
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>>1504375
You're fucking dogshit. Not only you have nothing but you're a net negative, only self-serving under the guise of "helping". I see what you're doing you lil shit. What's the matter, messed up your lil grift?
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>>1504377
Here's a lil tip for "social skills":
1. not have adults fuck up your life growing up
2. if can't have 1 - cope (own: reason, intuition, experience), avoid cocksuckers trying to sell you a book, avoid cocksuckers calling you a failure to pump their own ego - they do it because they feel like failures themselves, otherwise they wouldn't need it


That's my 2 rules for life by Cocksucker Suckerson
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>>1504376
>>1504377
>>1504380
meds
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>>1504436
cuck
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Why would I want to be accepted by fucking dogshit as "proper"? Get fucked. I say whatever the fuck I want, don't need the approval of some cuck. The fuck you gonna do about it.



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