What utilities does Hypnosis have with helping people? I have heard about people losing weight, stopping smoking, being more outgoing, and other benefits. Does it actually have lasting effects, or is it more of a temporary parlour trick?Are there any drawbacks to using hypnosis?
You can't make someone do something outside of their nature. Hypnotism can work for thing like changing your diet and habits if you want to do them. It's basically just direct suggestion. If you look up pickpocketing experts and other street scams that kind of misdirection is basically the same thing then combined with sleight of hand.
>>37851496Having the will to live increases your chances of survival. Fake medicines also have an effect like the real thing. Just take something sweet and believe in God's blessings. Real medicines are improved by good patient care.The psychological is just as real as the physical to the mind's eye.The reverse is also true.As long as you are spending and outputting to balance the equation , consuming good things and getting rich has a positive effect on your mind. It all depends on your personal takeaway and the meaning it has for you.The only issue is doing the wrong thing because of bad information like getting scammed. Look within first. As for the external world - only through play can you discover.Everything requires fuel including societies.It's all in your mind. $$$$$$$$
>>37851551so is hypnosis something that someone has to know is happening for it to work? or can it work like subliminals?
>>37851496You aren't going to learn how to do crazy things with it anymore, real information has been scrubbed for a few years, you can do anything with hypnosis that involves controlling your own mind or the mind of a willing partner, you just need to know how to get thereMostly now it is a parlor trick to be ignored
>>37851725>real information has been scrubbedthink it could still exist in an old manual? surely the "they" cant burn every book
>>37851739of course not lmao bc hes chatting shit theres no glowie force against hypnosis which is used clinically for decades and decades
>>37851496Two things to understand about hypnosis. It's powerful and dangerous. Most of the modern research about Hypnosis began with Kurt Plötner, a medical experimenter at Dachau Concentration Camp, who used psychedelics and hypnotic drugs to induce unwilling subjects, and was able to completely control them. After the war, he got recruited under Operation Paperclip and began working for Office of Scientific Intelligence, a department in the CIA. The research they did in the 1950s and 1960s was absolutely unethical, but it did give us some startling revelations. >People put under torture and turned into a state of extreme duress can become more susceptible to deep hypnotic states>They can create extreme dissociation, it is possible to create an entirely new personality and control it. >Pairings with certain drugs during induction can allow them more control>People with childhood trauma, PTSD, and Dissociative Personality Disorder are more hypnotically suggestible >There is no person who is impossible to break. The Human Mind is designed to deal with trauma this wayI wish it was just some stupid parlour trick, but it's quite effective on certain people under normal conditions and terrifyingly effective under extreme ones. Also more food for thought, they just found transcranial magnetic brain stimulation can increase hypnotizability. https://www.psypost.org/stanford-scientists-boost-hypnotizability-with-transcranial-magnetic-brain-stimulation/
Isn't sigil "magic" basically self hypnosis too? It's a shame self hypnosis doesn't get talked about much here
>>37851739Very few manuals ever went over it properly, that I know of at least, I kind of like Ainsley Meares as an author and I've read his books a few times, he can definitely point you in the right direction, obviously Erickson, and some understanding from books like the like switch can be helpful>>37851747The problem is the doctors are mostly retarded with no idea what they're doing, their gold standard is a fucking esdaile induction which has no practical application whatsoever, the actual cool stuff lies in the realm of the conversational, which hypnotherapists currently pretend does not exist>>37852024Depends on your belief structure but it can be framed as it yes, hypnosis does not require trance to work, just bypassing the critical mind>>37851904>Wow, people avoid things that traumatize them>Make leaving the hypnotic state traumatic>Traumatize people so much they cannot function or be useful in any meaningful way>This scientific experiment proved hypnosis can completely control people, wow!MK ultra happened, but people think way too much of it, my impression is that focus has been more on technological means of control recently, but I am not on the inside there
>>37852178>hypnosis does not require trance to work, just bypassing the critical mindwhy and how does the suggestion work?
>>37852178I don’t think MKUltra was able to mass control people, just individuals. The digital age and screen addiction is the means of pacifying the general public. The shit that is concerning is Hypnosis material like Bambi Sleeps. These files are said to completely drain individuals of their identity and reshape them into bimbos. There are some horror stories about bimbofication and mutilation because these files are so mind altering.This was a good article about it. https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/jessicalucas2/erotic-hypnosis-bambi-sleep
>>37852507As is written on the tin, by bypassing the critical mind>Be me, broke>go to little ceasers>want nice pizza, cant afford it, have change>Ask for nice pizza, give her $3.24 in quarters and change>wait until she looks like she's squinting at it, like she's thinking "I can't be fucked with this">"Yeah I'm sorry for making this so hard for you>Suggestion It's difficult to do this - hard>apply misdirection - I think I started a pointless conversation about a movie or something>Wait to see the look on her face that says the gears are turning but going nowhere>"Oh I'm sorry you don't need to try so hard that's 8.24, I didn't want to count it either (fake but believable laugh)">Thanks anon>gives two bucks in changeTrance is nice, fun, usable, even practical sometimes, but the trick is bypassing the critical factor, she didn't bother criticizing my statements consciously because she was too busy/engaged counting all the stupid and many sized pieces of pocket change I had handed her, so her brain took the easy way out
>>37852624>sissy hypno is real and dangerous
>>37852632this only works on low iq retards that don't know what you're doing.captcha: GAY8 (lol and you fags made me get another captcha. love u 2 4chinz.)
>>37852632Yeah same as what the other anon said. Doesn't sound like this would work on anyone with an IQ above 90. And my question was meant for self hypnosis, I should've clarified.
>>37852624>Bambisleep>ConcerningI'm pretty sure I am one of the people that spoke to those faggots for the article unironically kek, bambi sleep is fantasy fulfilment and not really that advanced (though there are a couple of fanfiles for it that are well made)It works by presenting a way out of anxiety (IE: bubble) and the path for getting there is in creating an alter with seemingly innocuous behaviors - all the sissy shit doesn't really matter if it's just in your bedroom, the typical hypnosis file is basically not even hypnosis so the sissy listener thinks it'll be fine, then suddenly they're addicted to anxiety being gone because of it, and suddenly they're cross dressing in mall of AmericaBambi sleep is not concerning at all, what's concerning is how fucking retarded most hypnotists are, ESPECIALLY community leaders, because the recurring theme is >Someone figures out how to make hypnosis actually work>Everyone freaks out, they're a predator who did something abusive because the listener assumed the warnings do not matter>They leave the community because of some kind of harassment>retarded voices get higher on the totem poleThere are also people who feign this reaction because they do even more fucked up things that people havent noticed, because the voices higher on the totem pole are retarded, and people who want to actually fuck with people do so in ways retarded people do not noticeBambi sleep is only going to really fuck people who already are predisposed to a major mental health problem, if people read the warnings it's a non issue, and the official site does have proper warningsThe problem is it can't (and shouldn't) be regulated as hypnosis is literally just speech - as in, the more you learn about it the more you realize it's not some magic trance power at all so much as just talking to people in a particular way, though a law forcing hypnotists to at least try to warn of contents would be good
>>37852696>>37852714It depends on their current state of mind, like I can't describe to you the expression on her face as I watched for them etc, reading people is kind of a needed skill, and different things will work on different people, you would be surprised how easily you can do this with trivial thingsBasically by bringing attention to how difficult what she was doing was to her in a natural sounding way, I was able to make her aware of how difficult it is, and awareness gives that thought power; IE: effect is increased, the casual conversation/fake laugh creates rapport which causes the conscious mind to become more likely to accept what I say without bothering to worry about it (bypassing critical factor) thus creating suggestion, but without trance
>>37852656Bambi Sleeps is done by someone with extensive experience. Look at the people it affects, it’s women (they’re more suggestible) and ones already suffering some childhood trauma. You can make slaves with vulnerable people if you’re psychopathic enough. This girl got basically mindfucked by this shit and needs therapy. https://youtu.be/44aBgkj05pE?feature=shared
>>37852949Fearporn
>>37851496Look up Reality is Plastic. It discusses hypnosis, both the stage person stuff and more general practice, as well as how to induce hypnosis without deep trance states
Are there any good occult style books on self hypnosis?
>>37851904hypnosis is bullshit. it's only good for having pleasant feelings for a while or as a treatment to stop smoking by stimulus-response and reduce stress.any mere miraculous effect is a placebo and the desire to fix all problems is not the cure to all ills. it may increase pain tolerance but it is not magic.auto-suggestions are good for your health, the actors of the disney parks can confirm it to you.better look at autogenic training or fear exposures and other therapies with tests that derive from hypnosis.stay away from pseudoscience like NLP and scientology.otherwise it is full of scammers who use it as past regressions and end up making the mistake of inserting false memories, although stupid people like psychoanalysts say it revives childhood traumas from the unconscious (whatever the fuck that is).the decade of satanic panic was basically that.
>>37852716It really works on people who WANT to be sissies.Also, have you noticed how all the “hypnosis porn” videos (the ones who tell men to dress up, fuck dildos, be dumb etc etc) involves either female porn actresses or good looking trannies?? Have you ever saw one with REAL life tranny? NopeWhy? Because person who view it likes the illusion, they want to insert themselves in place of the girl getting gangbanged, or a pretty shaved tranny who is getting stretched. They don’t want to see the reality, a fat disgusting troon who still has beard sucking on a didlo in a darkened room.It’s really stupid lol>>37852696>>37852714I was thinking the same, but then I realized, that’s what trance really is. It’s getting dazed, confused, or unable to think stright. Sorts how you feel on a long drive in a long highway. You get mesmerized, dazed, and then after a while you “wake up” realizing you drove 20 miles while not being “there”In principle, what anon did was the same.
>>37852949I listened to Bambi before.You are right, it can affect women because they DO have the right body parts.For a man? He needs to literally twist himself into a pretzel in-order to accept the suggestions of the voice.Infact, those men are already hypnotized themselves before even listening.Why? 1- “voice” suggestions involve you having a vagina. A man don’t. And you can lie to yourself until nature calls and you realize you have a dick (and so all the suggestions will evaporate)2- having boobs Men don’t have “boobs”They can again accept the voice, but the moment they touch their chest, they realize that it’s not “there” there fire removing all suggestions 3- suggestion to be “dumb”Can’t work. Women can live without responsibility if they want to. (Specially if they are as slutty as Bambi sleep hypnotize them to become. Doesn’t matter how dumb they are: they can go to seeking, and find a sugar mama and sugar daddy.Not all women do this. But when you are hypnotized to be a dumb horny slut who is ready to suck and fuck and obey without saying no, on demand? You be there and you find someone to support your “pink dumb brain”A dude though? lol lmaoYou can tell yourself you are a retard and you need someone, and it only works until you are ready to go back to work and be independent.It might work on neets, but only if they are hikkis (because if you go out there, and act dumb, no one going to protect you, you will be humiliated (and not in a sexual way)) But if you are hikki you never gonna meet anyone so it’s nullJust my 2cents
>>37853329Hahahaha I totally called itSee here?>>37852624>slutty women found a sugar daddy from seeking who had a fetish of hypnosis>she got hypnotized using Bambi sleepShe was already slutty enough, she WANTED to be a pink bread dead fuck doll, and this thing let her “be one” without responsibility.Essentially , “no i didn’t want to be a fuck doll, this hypnosis made me into one and I can’t stop”I totally called it lol
>>37853052>inserting false memories, although stupid people like psychoanalysts say it revives childhood traumas from the unconscious (whatever the fuck that is).the decade of satanic panic was basically that.""Rarely has such a strange and little-understood organization had such a profound effect on media coverage of such a controversial matter. The [False Memory Syndrome] foundation is an aggressive, well-financed PR machine adept at manipulating the press, harassing its critics, and mobilizing a diverse army of psychiatrists, outspoken academics, expert defense witnesses, litigious lawyers, Freud bashers, critics of psychotherapy, and devastated parents.”Columbia Journalism Review, July/August 1997""Little girls have to learn that their fathers are off limits when it comes to gratification of sexual feelings”Dr. Richard Gardner, another vocal member of the False Memory Syndrome Foundation, explaining how children are to blame for their molestation (in The Toronto Star, February 4, 1996)""It should come as no surprise, then, that long-time CIA and ‘intelligence complex’ operatives turn up on the FMSF Advisory Board. Perhaps the most public member has been Dr. Louis Jolyon ‘Jolly’ West, a legendary figure in CIA mind control circles operating out of UCLA. Another is Dr. Martin Orne, an authority on torture who currently works at the University of Pennsylvania’s Experimental Psychiatry Lab … Still another false memory luminary is Margaret Singer, professor emeritus at the University of California-Berkeley."Toward Freedom, May 1998
>>37851551Oh. That's what rasputin did, he had hypnotic eyes which were able to induce "suggestion" to you. I have said eyes, maybe I'm his reincarnation. XD I wish
"as author Jan Hollingsworth has pointed out, prosecutors had at their disposal “more than a hundred child witnesses as old as eleven and a truckload of medical reports bearing documentation of scarred genitals and anuses.”The stories told by these children, it should be noted, were not fed to them by some diabolical team of therapists and headline-seeking journalists. Many of them were offered spontaneously to hundreds of parents and scores of childcare specialists. And the victims of the McMartin Preschool, all adults now, still tell the same stories today.While anyone suggesting that the allegations in the McMartin case were true - and that a massive cover-up concealed the true nature and scope of the case - is likely to be labeled a 'conspiracy theorist,' the most preposterous conspiracy theory surrounding McMartin has always been the notion that some cabal of overzealous therapists was able to implant 'false memories' of heinous abuse in the minds of nearly 500 individuals, and have them persist to this day.."
"In February of 1985, Officer Sandi Gallant of the San Francisco Police Department submitted a report to her superiors noting the similarities in numerous ritual abuse cases. She had gathered evidence from fellow officers and police departments across the country and summarized the evidence referenced in the police reports submitted to her. An excerpt from her report reads as follows: “The information contained herein is distasteful and bizarre, to such a degree that one would choose to discredit it. However, research that I have done in this area has revealed that numerous cases of this type are surfacing around the country and in Canada. The similarities in the stories of each child victim used in these crimes tend to give credibility to the information revealed by others. Additionally, the psychiatrists and therapists who have been treating the victims state that the consistency of the stories and the explicit details revealed cause them to believe that these children are telling the truth. It is also the belief of each law enforcement officer who submitted information for this report that the victims are being truthful and that, in fact, children would be unable to make such stories up. “During my research, similarities began surfacing which indicate the strong probability that there exists a network of people in this country involved in the sexual abuse and possible homicides of young children. These cases appear to differ from isolated cases of abuse towards children in that the crimes mentioned here have been committed with one common goal in mind – that of mutilating and murdering children for ritualistic or sacrificial purposes. Many of the cases reported also reveal the possibility of child pornography beyond the normal type of ‘kiddie porn’ in that these children are photographed during rituals with some members in robes or other garb and candles, snakes, swords, altars and other types of ritualistic material being used.”
"Gallant had requested that the report be sent on to the chief of police for him to review and forward to the FBI. Following his review, however, the chief declined to submit the report. Gallant also tried to get the U.S. Department of Justice to review the paperwork, but she was - not surprisingly - rebuffed there as well.As for the McMartin case, there has never been any question that the children there were horrifically abused. Though rarely noted in press reports, the jurors were clearly of the opinion that that was, in fact, the case. The hung juries and acquittals were the result of the jury members’ inability to identify the perpetrators of that abuse, which they attributed to the inept presentation of the prosecution’s case." -- Dave McGowan
>>37851671>or can it work like subliminals?Indirect ericksonian Hypnosis works like subliminals. The client doesn't have to know what you're doing. In Direct authoritarian Hypnosis, ala the dave elman method, the client must be fully aware and give you permision to proceed with the hypnosis session. >>37851739It's all been memory holed. You can still find out how to mindfuck people, but the information is scattered now. >>37851496>What utilities does Hypnosis have with helping people?You meet a client. They tell you their problem. You discover the Scope and Scale of the problem ie the boundaries of what they assume the problem is. You then induce hypnosis to gain access to their subconscious and disassemble the problem using various Hypnotic techniques. I'll tell you fucktards right now so you don't waste too much time. Self hypnosis works, but not as good as having a hypnosis partner. The reason for this is that during self hypnosis you'll generally stay partially concious so there will be some resistance.With a Hypnotic partner you can go into DEEP trance, Somnambulism or into the Ultra Depth State. These states allow for the best change work and therapy. If you're planning in learning self hypnosis to change yourself or make yourself better, Don't bother. It's easier to go read self help books. On the other hand, learning how to hypnotize other people is fun as fuck. And Yes you can make people do things against their will and become your slave.Hope that helps you faggots out. Good luck anon.
>>37851551>You can't make someone do something outside of their nature.Retroactively refuted by pic related.
>>37852997Sucks that Kev Sheldrake became a soiboi who bought into cold control theory and whose entire argument for that is unironically "trust the science".
>>37854270>You can still find out how to mindfuck people, but the information is scattered now.Where can I find this information?
>>37855574>Where can I find this information?Depends on what you're trying to do. If you want to learn to hypnotize people then you go step by step. 1. you learn old fashion direct authoritarian hypnosis (Dave Elman)2.. You learn NLP (neuro linguistic programming) so you can get into Milton Erickson3. You learn Indirect/Covert Hypnosis via Milton Erickson method.4. You learn Stage/Street Hypnosis so you get the balls to do all this hypno stuff on rando's.If you just want to Mess with peoples mind against their will then you can look up Dark Persuasion or Dark NLP. If you want to learn Hypnosis for sexual reasons then you lean Erotic Hypnosis. There aren't many resources on this since its considered very taboo in the hypnosis community. Major Mark Cunningham will teach you how to do it through his renegade hypnosis program. If you're a poor fag then you can learn it through a book called MIND PLAYhttps://www.amazon.com/Mind-Play-Guide-Erotic-Hypnosis/dp/1484841034There's a workbook for it as well https://www.amazon.com/Mind-Play-Study-Guide/dp/1512230278If you want to dominate someones mind and make them your slave, that's not something that's shared or taught to outsiders. Hope that helpsGood Luck Anon.
>>37855574>Where can I find this information?None of the shit >>37856657 mentioned is going to work unless you are handsome enough to pull it off lol. If your face is ugly as fuck (and/or you are below average height), no amount of NLP and word games are going to get a woman to be aroused by you (if that's your goal).What you are looking for is literal magic. All these real science based hypnotic methods pretty much require the other persons participation. In other words, the only woman who you can hypnotize sexually is the one who is already primed to offer herself to your sexually, because she is already attracted to you on some level. To go even further it only works on people who are suggestible, so some minds will just never be capable of being hypnotized by you.Also, here's the hard part. Who the hell are you going to practice all of these techniques on to get it right?Your sister? lolIt takes people months and even years to master these techniques, and they have to practice on people.I honestly don't know where you are going to get willing participants for your "erotic hypnosis" practice, or your practice on any kind of hypnosis period.You're honestly just going to end up wasting years on shit that just doesn't really work.Just skip all of the nonsense and find a way to grow and manufacture Scopolamine (Devil's Breath) yourself:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToQ8PWYnu04Getting your hands on this shit will be more effective than any hypno stuff you try to learn (of course it's illegal, but if it was possible to mind control people against their will with hypnotism that would be illegal too).>>37854270>And Yes you can make people do things against their will and become your slave.Sure sure, that's why the government has allowed this information to be freely available in ebooks.
>>37856902>Just skip all of the nonsense and find a way to grow and manufacture Scopolamine (Devil's Breath) yourselfThis stuff is in any hospital anywhere to reduce postoperative nausea and vomiting after anaesthesia (not mind control) btw
>>37857116>This stuff is in any hospital anywhere to reduce postoperative nausea and vomiting after anaesthesia (not mind control) btwIt's likely not the same thing (not manufactured the same way).
>>37856657nlp just isnt science, its just some bs for businessmen to sell sessions to you lol (that your insurance wont even cover)
>>37852716I think the woman from the article was an Onlyfans model (pic related). She formed an alternate personality from it, even tattooed the name Bambi on her collar bone. Obviously she consented in the beginning, but that’s the problem, if you’re in too deep it’s hard to withdraw consent. Unless you get outside help or have an epiphany, it’s hard to just break your conditioning and self-bondage. I think that’s what some anons don’t get. Not everyone has a strong will and inability to be hypnotized. There are people who are basically very programmable, and can be turned into slaves.
>>37858598The old hypnotic rule is that everyone is hypnotizable.30% are difficult to hypnotize and offer a lot of resistance, you break this with fractionalization ie repeated attempts until you get through. Best course of action is to use Milton Erickson techniques.30% are hypnotizable with consent. You use either Ericksonian hypnosis or authoritarian direct hypnosis.30% are extremely easy to hypnotize without needing consent so you use direct authoritarian methods on them.The last 10% are already in a trance and you just tell them what to do and believe.That Bambi chick wanted to change personalities from what you're saying so she gave consent. She was most likely one of the 10% or easily hypnotizable people.There were methods to make slaves but it's taught in seminars, not in books or videos. So you'll have to drop like 2k to 5k to learn how to do it.If anybody want to get into it I recommend just learning erotica hypnosis, getting a girlfriend and having fun. Slaves are only fun until you get bored of themGood luck anon.
>>37858598>She clearly consented in the beginning but it's the files fault because she wanted to change her mind later and couldn't>she should not be held responsible for her choice to consentRetarded, this is why hypno for kink is a dramatic cess pool
>>37859098I'm going to read up on these methods and look into it. Thanks>>37859964Did not say she should not be held responsible. It's just to point out that these files can have perverse effects on some people. Sissy hypno stuff is confusing to me.
>>37852714Guess what cranium, 2/3rds of everyone is under 90. This only works for most people? USELESS!
>>37852716What is the process to create files like this for yourself. I want to hypnotize myself (not for any kink shit), but honestly nothing has ever worked?If this process works for extreme shit like brainwashing kinks into peoples minds, it should be able to handle mundane shit like quitting smoking, etc.
>>37860692Dude she was so messed up in the head that she wanted to cut her tits off.Possibly after reading too much manga about gay pretty boys.She chose all of this
>>37851496She's faking it.>>37852624I heard andrew tate listened to them as a challenge and that's what turned him gay.>>37853926Satanic panic started with legitimate events and then every retard who wanted attention began making up stories. It's a label used to discredit concerns about some really fucked up shit.>>37858598She's faking it
>>37856902>Hur dur only attractive 6'5 men can command people around.>Don't look into it any further because it's pointless.Shill behaviour.
>>37862432It’s true though.Can you even POSSIBLY imagine if an Indian man with a thick accent try to command people hypnotically? People will laugh at his face.There is a reason some YouTubes have bigger following that othersGreat voice
>>37862468Funny that I didn't even mention voice in my post.
>>37862139>Andrew tate listens to bambisleepPost a source and I will kek hard
>>37862139>thinks everyone is faking it Just because you can't make women cum doesn't mean they're all faking it.
I never find shit on autohypnosis, even thought it would seem that's the best modality of hypnosis. How can I learn it? I want to control my own mind.
>>37862482Wtf are you talking about? The whole point was being attractiveAnd having a great voice is part of being attractive
>>37851904I remember watching a video on Dailymotion from a TV show where they wanted to see if murder was possible under hypnosis. They got a few dozen applicants, and the hypnotist narrowed down the best ones. They finally selected a dude who was a security guard, and he was trained to become an assassin under hypnosis. Then they gave him a designated target, and he was to shoot him outside a hotel. It was pretty interesting to watch, since I've heard theories that Lee Harvey Oswald was possibly a subject in MKUltra. Ted Kaczynski was also experimented on, so it's not out of the realm of possibility of creating killers from seemingly once normal individuals.
>>37864374I am telling you, there is ZERO % than anyone will do ANYTHING under hypnosis , unless they want to do it themselves and need some “courage”Why did the hypnotist need to work with many and only choose “the best one”?It’s because he was looking for one that really wanted it, saw it as cool etc
>>37864374lol you think this video is real? Kek
>>37864489They didn't inform them on the mission until after they were hypnotized, otherwise that would've ruined the experiment. After it's over, he's visibly disturbed and worried how it could affect his job and life. >>37864495Deny all you want, your mind can be penetrated by people if they want to.
>>37864514>your mind can be penetrated lol no. I can be hypnotized when I am on a long road and my mind drift away. To a point that I wonder how did I even drove without getting into an accident.But even then, I pay no attention to ads on the street.I also watched the entitreity of Bambi and because I didn’t want to turn into a raging sissy, I didn’t.It’s all bullshit.At least the ones that are in media (or can teach you) are.>>37864514Pretty bullshit to believe.Link it so I can watch and decide for myself.Just telling you more about myself. I read at least 20 books on hypnosis, old and new, and watched countless seminars.It’s all bullshit.No one can force you, unless you want it.
>>37864569>No one can force you, unless you want it.First off, that mantra is absolutely bullshit. Hypnosis is a state of mind, you can put people into it through a variety of means, including drugs, electrical stimulation, or via torture. There is no prerequisite for consent when a person's willpower can be broken down. That's what Stockholm Syndrome is a lot like. People being held against their will reshape the relationship to attachment instead of fear to cope with the stress. Any subject, smart or dumb, can be mindbroken via torture. Anyone.Besides that TV show, it has happened in real life where people have been compelled to murder under hypnosis. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copenhagen_hypnosis_murders
>>37864698Oh drugs, sure. Pain? SurePleasure?TrueYou can mondbreak people and make them a new form using those.But here we are no talking about those.Here, we are talking about putting people in trance via nothing but your voice. (Like the images and videos shared here)That’s simply impossible Otherwise, I agree with what you saying here
>>37864731I think you might be generalizing, because there are absolutely people who can be made to dissociate completely using just audio and visual cues. They make up around 10% of the population, and typically are already mentally ill (PTSD, BPD, Bipolar, Schizotypal). There is a good paper on how far those hypnotic suggestions can go with people. https://web.archive.org/web/20130501231851/http://dsm5.org/Documents/Anxiety%2C%20OC%20Spectrum%2C%20PTSD%2C%20and%20DD%20Group/PTSD%20and%20DD/Spiegel%20et%20al_Dissociative%20Disorders.pdf
>>37864806>they already mentally illSo they are not normal and sorta on drugs.Still don’t believe it though.But I will read what you have posted here.My issue is that the thread has been suggesting that hypnotists can hypnotize anyone and anything by some mistakes techniques that are kept secret (and the evidance are publicly shown “hypnosis” lmao)Which is completely wrong.
>>37851627Based abundance posterWAGMI
>>37864826Hypnosis follows a general normal distribution, just like most other general human traits. You could be a particularly strong-willed individual, hence it doesn't work for you. For others, they can achieve remarkable results, so much so that surgery can be performed without anaesthesia and individuals are perfectly calm. If hypnosis was bullshit, the body's pain reflex would override any hypnotic suggestions, but they don't. If you can hypnotize animals, I don't see how humans are very different. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/267716330_USE_OF_HYPNOSIS_IN_SURGICAL_APPROACHES
>>37864569>>37864731An ESL like you wouldn't understand the subtleties of the English language needed to create a slave. Also didn't you read my post? this information isn't shared in books or videos. You have to attend seminars where you pay 2k to 5k to attend. They're usually 2 week seminars In a foreign country so you have to book a flight motel and everything else. They're not advertised online either. It's all face to face seminars sold to people that attend other hypnotic seminars and who have shown that they can put people into various trance states.Where the fuck do you think all this kink and sissy hypno shit came from. There's a hypnotist out there that trains people into conditioning a slave master hypnotic state. Even if the other person doesn't want to engage in That type of relationship.Hope that helps. KekGood luck anon.
>>37863725There's this. https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/22814/pg22814-images.htmlI tried it a little; want to do it more.
>>37864906Issue is that none of the shitty sissy hypno stuff worksNone of them.they were conned out of 5k for a bullshit product.
>>37864904No, I am not.I get hypnotized while driving, pretty easily.Still it doesn’t work
>>37865016>I get hypnotized while driving What?
>>37865033It’s a common thing.Infact it’s the thing hypnotist make example with to say if you are suggestible or notWhenever I drive on highway, and it’s , let’s say 40 miles, with not too my turns, and no music on, it happens.I start thinking about something, and bam, 10 miles passed, and I didn’t notice.Thing that scares me is that I am pretty sure at some points my mind was so far gone that I wasn’t even seeing the street (my eyes were looking, my body was reacting, but my mind was all gone)You know, like how you can daydream and you are so deep in it, that for a second you start to respond back to whoever you are talking to in your head?Like that I don’t know how to explain it.
>>37865185Ok, well so long as you aren't crashing I guess it's fine. Hypnosis is different for everybody. How you experience it is not the same as others. I don't think you've actually disproven that hypnosis "doesn't work".
Hi, anons. I actually think my eyes can put people into Hypnosis. Also hypnosis is actually one of the basis for spiritual healing. which is related to suggestion: the principle of gathering divine energies to enter the consciousness of another person as to heal them. Or something like that. Basically you enter someone's soul (kinda like how hypnosis makes someone more susceptible to manipulation) and through that you heal them. Anyways back to my original point: I think my eyes can do this. But I'm not sure im still learning.
>>37866710Ye I am not crashing. My mind is not there, but body is in charge and vigilant, like an autopilot. Not even sleepy, or dazed. Just pure daydream to the point that I am gone. I think it’s a combination of suggestions (me thinking about shit) and going into trance by looking at the road.No I am saying I CAN BE HYPNOTIZED while driving and still, I am sure that won’t be “hypnotized” by anyone of these “gurus”I am saying I am not have any mental defense agaisnt hypnosis, and still this should wouldn’t penetrate shit.
>>37863739>And having a great voice is part of being attractive.But that wasn't what you meant when you were talking about how you needed to have a handsome face for hypnosis to work. You were using the common incel cope that if you're attractive you can magically get people to do what you want in order to bolster your point. With the obvious motive to discourage anons here from looking into the subject.>Can you even POSSIBLY imagine if an Indian man with a thick accent try to command people hypnotically?Has the same retarded logic as...>Can you even POSSIBLY imagine if a crippled man with fucked up legs tried to fight people with martial arts?Just because a cripple is incapable of using martial arts, doesn't mean that the techniques and principles of martial arts are bullshit. All it means is that the cripple lacks the requisite functionality in the areas needed to master martial arts. In the same way, just because some mush mouthed Indians can't communicate properly in English, doesn't invalidate the techniques and principles of hypnosis. Just that the Indians lack the requisite English skills to master hypnotic techniques. And you don't even need a great voice to hypnotize someone, all you need is the ability to speak and be understood.
>>37865033He clearly doesn't understand the distinction between trance and hypnosis.
>>37868677So you're just delusional. Anyone with an indirect induction could get you
>>37868677>I'm so hypnotizable I get tranced by inanimate objects.>An intelligent human being is incapable of hypnotizing me.How can you not see the contradiction? Maybe you've been hypnotized to not see it?
>>37868677I think you may be in denial that you’ve been hypnotized by others, which is a normal psychological response to it. I know so many people who say they’re not suggestible, get hypnotized, follow all commands, and then come out of the experience saying it didn’t work. It’s even a trope among stage hypnotist to make subjects think they’re not hypnotized. It gets lots of laughter from the audience.
>>37864569Finally found it. It's 42 minutes but really interesting to watch. The subject does an ice bath under hypnosis and performed really well as well. https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6sd7sf
>>37872071anon, you're responding to an ESL retard. Let just let this thread die. It's already gone to shit. I wanted to start a hypnotic general so maybe i could share some of my stuff with you all, but it's plain to see that /x/ is full of retards and ESL's. it wouldn't last more than a month. kek. Just look at the ESL retard here >>37868677 . He admits to going into trance while driving, but has spent half the thread just shitting everything up with his bullshit. for the rest of you here that want to go on a hypnotic journey, go study NLP (neuro Linguistic Programming). Study the old teachers not the new teachers on youtube. good luck anons.
>>37873280I'll look into NLP and hypnosis. It sucks that some cannot help themselves but derail threads with inane babble, but here we are. People can make a million threads about meditation just fine, but hypnosis becomes too schizo.
>>37851496only seen like youtube healer hypno, avoided ones that seem too powerfull by thumbnail, i assume they have had good intentions
>>37865016you call it hypnotized, i call it auto mode
>>37873280NLP is fake Miltonian approach. Just go to Milton
>>37851496
There is so much utter horseshit in this thread that I can't be bothered to correct itIf you want to get good, read the books, hypnosis is not magic and will not magically make anyone your slave with some special voodoo witchcraftIf you want slaves with special voodoo magic that just werksTM, get pimp manuals, they're cheap and on amazon, and they do in fact work
>>37869441Nigga I do understand it.I am saying that if I can get into fucking trance while DRIVING, then how come I never experience this with DELIBERTLY listening to Hypno sissy shit and various other normal hypnosis files?That means they are not working>>37870158>>37869442Ok so if it’s the case, I must be a sissy now, from all the time I deliberately listened to sissy porn just to see if it’s “real” or not.Again, maybe if I WANTED to be a sissy, it could have work, but since I had no intention, it just went past me.Also, after my highway drives ,I never once had to urge to buy anything or do anything that the billboards suggestedBillboards that are suggesting new movies, gambling, and alcohol, and I never once done those in my life.>>37873280>he admits to get in trance while drivingNiggerThat’s my fucking point!If I can get in trance while driving, then I can EASILY get hypnotized by all the bullshit hypnofiles out there.Yet I never happened. I deliberately listened to hundreds of hypnotized, and it never had any effect on me. How do you explain that, beside 1- either their files are all fake or 2- hypnosis literally needs your consent or it won’t work on youAlso nigger, SHARE YOUR SHIT.I am just giving my opinion out here. Don’t blame this thread being shit on me. People already posted what they had, which I actually saved to look into later. I never dismissed their experiences either.So stop making bullshit up. My criticism of hypnosis doesn’t invalidate the thread, so just shut the fuck up and stop claiming to be a victim.>>37872071Cool thanks. I will.
>>37874496I seen so many “pimp manuals” on Amazon, but I don’t know which one is good and which isn’t.Post good ones.Also, don’t you need to be able to get trust of a woman first before being able to mentally push them toward pimping? Well getting to the level of “hey how are you” is the biggest problem here, let alone “trust me” level.I guess it would be the same thing with hypnosis; as they need to trust you 100% first
if you want to learn hypnosis for women, just pick up some weights and then put them down for 4 sets of 12-16 reps
>>37875658It's been years and I lost my book collection a while ago, I can look but I cant guarantee I will find what I read then, here is what the general gist was though>be a source of what they want (The book I am thinking of used "being a model - you can make them a model")>Take them out of their comfort zone (It referenced taking a poor girl to a fancy restaurant and vice versa, a goody two shoes to gangland, etc, and ended on changing their name) and be their source of security while doing so>Do not put the "ho" first, if they drop you, act like you dont care, act like you dont care about a lot of things, this takes control from themhttps://www.amazon.com/Pimp-Game-Instructional-Guide-New/dp/1986514242/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&dib_tag=se&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.IZaMuzRGfrkTOeWqAVkPHmoyxoQ7Aw2H5tFxfafL3VFBaRtYhm5TdmGaC-52BaR1Luj1flhzHueClKXxhRWIrgGOcThnKUzcJPxBoNc8v4t_JyMcjpB5oJan56VsmCs1uFe18esMjNltuOWWRbPVSqs21xii7yrHWicn8NWpEzPu6Lwy5dyJjRqYlr_bR6RpZD5UoTFbOTDRBkj8BuAVSzdr7unmN0aiNfiAZl1tvYIA0SLOj6M8pxZHhgRsWk2s4RiA48_4oeMqEvwedPnErSbhawXJMFv-BFOjewJzgRE.cghOZ4s5ACvIgg_w_t0L0kRaFe7lxRje2AySHFQM8fU&sr=8-3This is one of the books I owned way back when, it's written not too well, but it is accurate, informative and useful, if you follow what this book outlines you should be able to get what you seek>Get trust of the womanWhat I just described is just that, this line of thinking is better than just wanting hypnosis to make a slave for you, because building rapport (earning trust) is a much more important skill, for which I must again recommend "the like switch"https://www.amazon.com/Like-Switch-Influencing-Attracting-Winning/dp/1476754489
>>37875701what's the point of any of this? do sociopaths need to shroud themselves in a bunch of techniques just to mimic abusive niggers?
>>37875731I mean, it works, if you want to become manipulative/charismatic, guides exist for you to develop yourself, the point can be any number of things that one might seek to do this forMe personally? I grew up around a cult and mind control was actively performed, I learned a lot and mind control as a kink became a way of coping with that past>Abusive90% of this (rapport building specifically) is just being nice to people in a way they process as nice, it is not the sociopathic part, intent would be
>>37875748>I grew up around a cultmy condolences
>>37875701CoolVery interesting Tell me about your success or failures in using these methods
I have trouble falling into deep trance, any tips for induction?
>>37875765With pimp stuff? I only read that to apply the knowledge to other things, I'm also kind of scared of doxxing myself with personal informationTrying to think of the closest example to this specifically, there was a girl I would visit a long time ago who really enjoyed serial experiments lain, her ex had killed herself and so she was desperate for validation (want), I applied my kinks to her and would take her far from her home (out of her comfort zone) and she was really creepy so I was disinterested in her, making me valuable to herThe result was her carving my name into her body, her pretending to be pregnant (even admitting to poking a hole in the condom) and also asking for me to whore her out, none of this was intentional in the slightest for the record, I was 19 at the time, but inadvertently the ideas of the book were applied, I think she may have previously been a hooker so my behavior may have linked to previous memories (maybe related to a drug addiction? It would explain the sudden crazy, but I remain unsure)I am not *too* interested in being a pimp, mostly I just want cute girls to be obsessed with me and love me very much, so I only really apply lessons from pimp books, rather than actually following the directions themselves - an example is a partner I have right now, which I have basically become like a father figure for, she needs that guidance and so I make it that she can only get that feeling from me, I will also mix degrading her so that her need remains unfulfilled, while giving her praise when she does as I ask, further cementing her sense of self esteem being based in my actions>>37875760I appreciate it
>>37875773You do not need to enter a "deep trance", an induction that "allows" you to be aware during it, or a confusion induction will work best for analytical mindsIt is best to focus on suggestibility rather than depth in my honest opinion
>>37875825That makes sense. I tend to go to hard with things and miss small details.
>>37875903Then it might help you to change your focus, hypnosis may not have 100% of all suggestions work as intended, but by focusing on what is working you create the mindset needed to grow as a subject and thus allow more things to work, learning what works for your is a process as well
>>37875819That’s pretty awesome dude.Ye I don’t want to “pimp” either, but I love to be pampered by a sugar mama.Anyway, I will read up on the books you posted here. But please if this thread remains, post the other books as well.Btw, can you also tell me about your physical attributes? Look good ugly, fit, fat, dadbod, skinny fat? I just wanna know the affect of your work based on your physical attributes
>>37875936overweight (though much less so than in the past), tall, not particularly attractive faciallyLooking good will definitely help, but it's not a requirement
>>37875944>>37875923forgot trip, I'm trying not to be an attention whore in the other threads im in
>>37875944Well just saying being tall definitely helps with the whole assertive dominant persona to make women hang on your every wordThough it might not be everything
>>37875959You dont need them to take you seriously, often it's better if you don't because you can leverage their wants without them being as aware, if that's your inclination - short = nonthreatening = easier to build rapport, the friendzone exists for people who are too willing to give of themselves whilst simultaneously not getting close enough to the subjects secret selfI will make a list of books if I can be bothered/remember, but I probably wont remember the pimping books because I never cared all that much about it
>>37875968That’s ok. Good talk we had.I will try to implement these just for experience alone
What percent of Hollywood is under hypnotic control? >NXIVM operated for 20 years as a “marketing and branding company” >Their co-founder, Nancy Salzman, was a practitioner of Hypnosis and NLP, had a license from 1983 to 2019>Her and Keith Raniere began recruiting up and coming actors in Hollywood >Slowly they became enslaved and they would MLM-style recruit their fellow actors to join their marketing company >After growing immensely, they begin branding their slaves and slowly turn into a sex cult >The whole deck of cards fall and a few take the fall and end in Club FedNXIVM is just the tip of the iceberg, Scientology auditing is well known to employ hypnosis as well, and they have hundreds of celebrities under their control. L. Ron Hubbard was very public about his use of hypnosis, but claimed it liberated, not controlled. So many actors are runaways from home who come to Hollywood for fame and fortune. They’re gullible and weak-minded, just perfect for manipulation. Child actors have it the worst. They all end up having wrecked personalities and cope with substance abuse.
>>37877631>You will never know Alison Mack's trigger word for giving the best sloppy everWe need the fappening but with celebrity triggers instead.
This entire thread is so fucking shit. I was expecting some actual information but it’s just dudes obsessed with trying to make sex slaves. I’ve spent a good deal of time looking into hypnosis and I seriously still can’t make heads or tails of anything but I can provide some jumping off points that could lead to something interesting:-Luis Angel Castillo/Antonio Reyes Eloriaga Potentially involved with JFK assassination, CIA hitman that has only ever been mentioned in one book I read, debriefed by multiple intelligences agencies and disappeared into thin air -Hadad, the magician of Leavenworth This is an absolutely insane supposedly true account of some kind of hypnotic assassin warlock from Senegal as told by a prison guard in one chapter of his book written in 50’s. Look it up, read it, you will be entertained. -MKUltra Subproject 73, 29, 35There’s a page of project 35 that is maybe one of the my favorite unclassified documents of all time -MKUltra Subproject 128, 49, 25Have not looked at any files on these, but they are all hypnosis projects -the ARTICHOKE technique There’s been a massive coverup but basically the true ARTICHOKE technique all has to do with amnesia resistant covert hypnosis on people by the CIA. There’s tons of info on ARTICHOKE nobody has looked into I’ll post a picture or two maybe. Picture unrelated but from a book of mine.
>>37879266 ARTICHOKE file as promised. Completely authentic direct from CIA.
>>37879266That's fascinating, I'm reading up on the assassination of Robert F Kennedy Jr. This is an excerpt I read from forensic psychiatrist Daniel Brown on his assessment of the killer (Sirhan Sirhan) >“I have written four textbooks on hypnosis,” Brown wrote, “and have hypnotized over 6,000 individuals over a 40-year professional career. Mr. Sirhan is one of the most hypnotizable individuals I have ever met, and the magnitude of his amnesia for actions under hypnosis is extreme.” Brown said he has spent another 60 hours with Sirhan in the years since his 2011 affidavit, further confirming his conclusions.So in this case, they're saying the subject had extraordinarily strong Amnesia, which makes sense since he was meant to be disposable and blamed for Bobby Kennedy's death. He never stood a chance at trial with this explanation, his handlers are piss in the wind at that point. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/true-crime/wp/2018/06/04/the-assassination-of-bobby-kennedy-was-sirhan-sirhan-hypnotized-to-be-the-fall-guy/
>>37875644>how come I never experience this with DELIBERTLY listening to Hypno sissy shit and various other normal hypnosis files?Because files lack the interactivity of an actual hypnotist. It's to be expected that they're less effective.
>>37879272Good findAlso, I don’t think there is anything wrong to pursue hypnosis with a goal of “enslaving a woman “ (not in a sense of real mental slave, but the sort that she starts to like you, instead of ignoring you)I mean in all your examples, people used hypnosis to carry out assassination.Isn’t it possible that how you make a woman hypontized to live you is exactly the same process as having someone kill for you?Killing is their goal and love is ours
>>37879651That’s what I was SAYING.That’s all these files, and stories of “how this woman listens to hypno file, and became a slut”But then again, I also don’t think the “you know going to sleep” of “real” hypnotists would work either.Most of these are staged.Not as in “paid them money to act” but deliberately chose people who WANT to be hypnotized infront of inspectors.
>>37879266Well anon I hate to point out the obvious, but you're calling the kettle black. People brought up making sex slaves which you call shit, meanwhile you want to talk about the gov't making slaves and the possibility of making people do things against their will. There's no difference. A slave is a slave.The only people contributing anything here are me and that a hypnotist anon.What the fuck are you faggots wanting the learn exactly? The op wanted to know about helping people and the pros/cons of hypnotism. The thread devolved into sex talk and conspiracy. Kekpersonally I just wanted to share knowledge because Hypnotism, NLP, pick up arts and a few other things are getting memory holed. I think the retards in these threads just want be entertained though.I might still make the Hypnotism general just as a joke. We'll see.Good luck anon.
>>37879266What is the source of the image?>This entire thread is so fucking shit. I was expecting some actual information but it’s just dudes obsessed with trying to make sex slaves.I have to agree. I'm looking for working and effective hypnosis for other things, like gaining full control of my mental faculties.Here's what I mean. Try to empty your mind of all thoughts (sounds, words, mental imagery, etc), and see how long you can last, time it with a stopwatch). If this is your first time doing the exercise at best you'll last a few seconds,, 30 if you are lucky.Now imagine if you could use hypnotic suggestion on yourself to hack your subconscious. Allowing you to empty your mind on command whenever you feel like it, and being able to maintain that mental state indefinitely for as long as you want.That's the kind of hypnosis I'm interested in, once I can do something amazing like that, maybe I'll start thinking about the possibility of sex slaves lol.
>>37879857You are a massive egotistical perverted faggot and should fuck off. It’s clear you only know hypnosis in the form of some weird kink dom/sub slave shit. The books I’ve read on hypnosis clearly contradict a lot of what you’ve said (along with other replies here) and I went on to provide the best cited and most useful examples relating to hypnosis, you aren’t the “only person contributing anything”. You massively inflate the importance of what you’ve posted. I don’t doubt this is where your issues and need to create slaves or whatever comes from. Complete the depth scale retard, it’s missing one level.
>>37880292I can’t tell you from where this is from but it’s a cheap book available to most magicians. Find a professional magic shop either online or in person. I assume they gatekeep the good stuff but there’s some interesting titles nonetheless. Sorry I can’t provide the exact book title anon but don’t want it to sell out. You’re 100% on the right path with things and I applaud you. I have another mental game you may find interesting: when you wake up from nap/sleep try to remember what was the last thing that you remember before falling asleep? How close can you get to the exact moment you actually fell asleep?
>>37879266I'm really interested in how to protect myself from hypnotism. I had a couple of conversations that felt quite unpleasant in the moment. Nowadays I suspect they tried to hypnotize me.To what extent is it possible to protect yourself. Do I need to learn on all the techniques mentioned in the thread ? Do all the techniques lead to a same state of suggestibility ?It feels like there is an infinite amount of induction method and just knowing them all is impractical for that purpose. Especially if there are super secret technique that makes you an assassin after one encounter ...>inb4 you have to be hypnotized to make yourself resistant to hypnosis
>>37881191>Nowadays I suspect they tried to hypnotize me.Stop the schizo nonsense, you aren't important.>inb4 you have to be hypnotized to make yourself resistant to hypnosisMore like, you'd have to expose your mind to hypnotism and resist it's influence, in order for you to gain resistance.It's like you are asking how to put on muscle without tearing muscle fibers, it's just not gonna happen.
>>37881224I guess you're right, and not being important is such a blessing.My interest in hypnosis peaked when I saw some similarities when engaging in spiritual practices. Being very distrusting, it put me off.Frankly I'm trying to find a reason to keep looking at theses subjects. I don't feel like fucking around to find out.
>>37881793Ignore him. Guy that wrote the original reply here. I’m also schizo which is why this interests me so much. I have records of conversations and things I did I don’t remember doing from multiple independent sources and it made me begin to question if I had a hypnotic alter or something strange. You catch things at the edges of induction sometimes. Won’t go into detail because it’s active methods and sources that would get a target on my back but it’s very real. After the third time someone brings up a phone call they had with you where you said things you would never say and don’t even remember talking with them you begin to ask questions. The things you felt talking to people are very real. The best tip I could give is DON’T LET ANYBODY TOUCH YOU. Especially not your hands/arms. Avoid headphones especially around sleep. There is a difference between schizo stuff and the hypnosis and I’ve seen it clear as day before, you begin to see how easy it is for them to do. Almost everybody is susceptible, certain people just take longer and more work to put at ease and into trance, cold reading can quickly induce someone. Now here’s something I really shouldn’t say: there are allegedly certain teams called “black magic” that are like a crew of hypnotists that can penetrate deep into any denied zone with ease for intelligence purposes simply through cold reading and hypnosis. Over the course of hours they can hypnotize an entire facility worth of people to the point you or me could walk down the hallway and they would think we are supposed to be there among other things. Sounds like a movie right? Well, it was actually someone’s black magic team that pulled the Epstein hit so I can assure you it’s real ;)
>>37864906> Where the fuck do you think all this kink and sissy hypno shit came from.Coomers wanting to coom> this information isn't shared in books or videos. You have to attend seminars where you pay 2k to 5k to attend. They're usually 2 week seminars In a foreign country so you have to book a flight motel and everything else. They're not advertised online either. It's all face to face seminars sold to people that attend other hypnotic seminars and who have shown that they can put people into various trance states.Gay larp
>>37858598>Bambi was an uggoDREAM SHATTERED DREAM SHATTERED
Piss tier thread.The best way to go about it is by making your own audios that you then use on yourself. Do this for 4-5 months in of putting real work in it will reveal unto yourself a tremendous transformation, from choosing your words carefully to the tonality of your voice. I implore you to try this due to the fact that other than the fact of better results it will make you research topics and techniques that people have been using one you.I have found that that books like; Reality is Plastic, John Overdurf, Trance-Formationsanything you can get from Erickson, I can even suggest David Snyder since I have learned lots of niche tricks from him but he tends to yap a lot and his stuff is expensive, just torrent it.Others;PSTEC (Now Orpheus Mind Technologies, if you search for PSTEC at knaben.eu you will probs find a torrent)Deep Trance Identification Invisible Council (Joseph Rodrigues has a good video on it)Ellipsis Manual by Chase Hughes (very good read)Hypnotic Influence A Masters - Teppo HolmqvistHemi - Sync audiosPM Mind Domination (its a course thingy, has a very in-depth roadmap and everything, I have only skimmed it)Binaural Beats
I thought this thread was bad and then I noticed there was a bambi thread in the catalogue that is much worse, is this some new viral marketing shill op?
>>37884560>I thought this thread was bad and then I noticed there was a bambi thread in the catalogue that is much worse, is this some new viral marketing shill op?>>37880643I created the bambi thread because this post >>37852624 peaked my interest, so I started looking into it.The thread isn't just about the bambi sleep files though, I asked for other sources for hypnotism that's worth tested as it's likely legit, and I got a few good recommendations.>>37851496Look into an old well known Hypnotist called "Gerald Kein". You can find a few downloads for his courses if you know where to look. Based on what I've found while researching him, looking at what people say about his teachings, and seeing all the hypnotists he's taught himself. He looks like a good place to start.I actually went looking some time before and it was only today that someone recommended him, never found him in my previous searches. The old shit is usually legit, and it's hard to find too.
>>37884762Bambisleep will work if you listen to it, but it has a much stronger reputation than it deserves because its creator is (((connected))) to the porn industry at large and shills it heavily - the vice article was basically their doing because the fear is marketing - people who want it to work want it to be scary, they want to be """forced""" to be sissies or sluts because that's the fantasy, in reality it's just kind of ok, it'll work because it feels good (it becomes addictive even), limits higher reasoning, and separates you from anxious thinking effectively, it's not an example of something actually decent though, in my opinionyou have to realize it does not really aim high, it's making you do something that was always going to feel good, it's not giving you complicated suggestions right, just making you want a certain kind of sex very badly, and also too stupid to be considered responsible for yourself, these are very easy suggestions to give just about anyone, and go together pretty well, but that's about it
>>37884887>it's not an example of something actually decent though, in my opinionWhat is decent.What would you say about the work of Adam Eason?What would you say about the work of Gerald Kein?What would you say about the "Mind Control Method" by Jose Silva (you know, the "Silva Method")? The original one, not the shit that Mind Valley is peddling now because they now own his shit.>you have to realize it does not really aim high, it's making you do something that was always going to feel good, it's not giving you complicated suggestions rightI'm really just interested in the scripting, audio frequencies used, etc, because I'm thinking that's what makes it work. Because as I've read, there are many others creating their own brand of erotic hypnotism, and they just aren't that effective.
>>37884910>AudiofrequenciesAh that's inkys new marketing thing isn't it, I can't remember the name of the idiot he's using but he keeps going on about entrainment, entrainment exists in person - entraining brainwaves using these audiowaves and a machine that measures bioelelectricity, It was found that the whole "Science" of it effecting you via sound was just interference from the headphones in testing, there is some consensus that bineurals can cause a trancelike state, but not nearly to the extent advertised by idiots>Adam easonI do not know this person so they cannot be particularly relevant>Gerald KeinI do not know this person so they cannot be particularly relevant>Jose SilvaNLP marketing merchant turned guru reselling ericksons ideas within his own context, he regurgitates ideas and brings nothing new to the table
>>37884953Don't forget the other question.You said:>it's not an example of something actually decent though, in my opinionSo what is decent?
>>37880747The only depth that exists are the ones you create during the interview phase you brainless fuck. You haven't contributed shit either, except for garbage you can drum up from websites. Here let me explain how a hypnotic session goes. You meet client and listen to their problems.The hypnosis begins without the client knowing You figure out the end goal the client desiresYou figure out the model of the problem so you can break it apart. You get the clients past history to break the problem state and to perform covert hypnosis. You explain what type of hypnosis you're going to perform on the client as well as what their going To experience and what they'll experience in the future. This is where you induce the idea of depth. You set up multiple sessions to reinforce the hypnosis and validate it's success. Preferably 4 to 12 sessions and spread it out over a 1 to 3 month time span. That last part is so you can make the client a hypnotic junkie. so you can use them to get more clients. This is part of all business. Being a successful hypnotist is 10% hypnosis and 90% bullshiting the client. Depth is part of the bullshit you dumb faggot. Ericsonian hypnosis wouldn't work otherwise. Here let me explain it so a low iq such as yourself can understand. Hypnosis is bypassing the critical factor. That's it. How you do it, is up to you. Depth doesn't exist.Also why are you getting mad about me talking about making slaves when you want to know about the gov't making slaves? Are you some sort of cuck? You enjoy watching others put people into hypnosis rather than doing it yourself. Go fuck yourself you dumb fucking idiot. Hope that helpsGood luck anon
>>37884975Original CORE contentShibbys actual brainwashing setsthere isn't much actual good content remaining online because of how the community is If you meant good sources of information though>Milton Erickson (the GOAT)>Ainsley Meares>Jack Schafer (not hypnosis but adjacent)>Joe Navarro (not hypnosis but adjacent) When I think about it like this, I don't think I've actually seen too many writers who actually were able to communicate effective hypnosis styles well sadly, I'd advise you to get an actual training course for NLP since it's only a few hundred dollars and most people selling information about NLP are just swindlers trying to take your moneyI need to go through what's left of my books and start re-reading things, I remember there is a guy on youtube that used to film himself getting out of speeding tickets with hypnosis but I can't remember the name of the channel unfortunatelyAvoid derrick brown, he's a larper, the crowley of hypnosisReally if you want to learn the best possible way is practice, and approaching it conversationally in my opinion - when you talk to people just change little things about how you say what you're saying and write notes about how you noticed this effected the result
>>37884997This post is 100% correct, anyone who says otherwise is a retard and should be ignored completely
>>37855513This book (C. Emery, Secret, Don't Tell) is great and very comprehensive. Thanks to whoever recommended it. Most book recommendation on /x/ are trash or very basic but this is a gem. I downloaded it about 3 weeks ago, and can't get over, so much can be explained by hypnotism ... media, advertising, even religion, especially new age religion, the addiction to the trance state, the rapport with a leader=operator, the bonding between fellow hyptnotees of an operator etc.
>>37885034>Shibbys actual brainwashing setsI'll look into this.>I'd advise you to get an actual training course for NLP since it's only a few hundred dollars and most people selling information about NLP are just swindlers trying to take your moneyWhich course?, when it comes to the paranormal the market is always drowned in garbage.>Avoid derrick brown, he's a larper, the crowley of hypnosisI ironically have a ton of his stuff downloaded lol. Never practiced it though, just had it on the back burner. Seemed a bit to performative and not really "extreme" (the extreme things are always the most effective).>Really if you want to learn the best possible way is practice, and approaching it conversationally in my opinion - when you talk to people just change little things about how you say what you're saying and write notes about how you noticed this effected the resultBro I'm a super autist, I can barely maintain eye contact lol. I'm interested in this for self hypnosis, not really hypnotizing and influencing others.
I manifested this thread and topic
>>37885081https://inlpcenter.org/available-nlp-programs/nlp-practitioner-certification-online/This is the first one that popped up for me, NLP is a medically recognized system, it's all based upon Ericksons work though, so you can save money by trying to translate his retarded writing style into english, an actual course will give you the skills you want without nearly as much trial and error though
>>37885103I think I'm gonna pass on the NLP. Hypnotherapy is scientifically proven, but NLP really isn't, it was just the result of some guys stealing some ideas they got from various psychologists and gurus and mushed them together.It just makes more sense to stick to something that people already know works and has a scientific basis.Also you saying:>This is the first one that popped up for meDoesn't really lend any confidence, because it sounds like you just did a google search, so you aren't recommending the specific NLP that you studied yourself and used effectively.Also, the Shibby stuff just another erotic hypnosis thing, I was hoping it was something else.thanks for the info anyways. But I am going to test out the Silva Method first, because as you said:>Milton Erickson (the GOAT)>>37884953>Jose Silve - NLP marketing merchant turned guru reselling ericksons ideas within his own context, he regurgitates ideas and brings nothing new to the tableA lot of people have said it worked for them, and I don't need him to add anything new, I just need something that works. That's good enough for me. I can get it for free online anyways so I don't care if he's just regurgitating legit information.He has an entire audio program that guides you through the entire self hypnosis process. That's really useful.
>>37884887>it's not an example of something actually decent though, in my opinionI've seen the WIP screenshots of how the tracks were made when I was lurking old posts of the forum discussing itChannel-by-channel, sample types and timings, distortions They're (((surprisingly))) well-made
>>37856902>the government has allowed this information to be freely available in ebooks.It also doesn't care about logistics, insurrection, asymmetric warfare books, so what's your point
>>37885291If that works for you go for it, the concepts that form NLP are proven and an actual course will work for you, but I agree with everything else you said, if some guru faggot will give you what you need then that works for you and saves you money>>37885326Oh, I must correct myself, mid as in hypnotic structure, not production quality, bambi production quality is quite high yes, for (((obvious))) reasonsOn a related note, did you know neuralnets used to brag about getting people to burn down stores in the BLM riots?
>>37885326>I've seen the WIP screenshots of how the tracks were made when I was lurking old postsAny links or name of the forum?>>37885404>the concepts that form NLP are provenBased on what I've read the concepts were stolen, but they aren't being applied properly in NLP. If something already works, and it isn't broke, there's no need to try and fix it.>did you know neuralnets used to brag about getting people to burn down stores in the BLM riots?LMAO.
>>37885420He also used patreon information to get the email addresses of girls who listened to his content and blackmail them into recording his (stolen from other artists) content, but shhh cant talk about that in the community because he will sue you (he's a university professor but makes 8 figures (((for some reason)))Do not ask how I know this
>>37885438I mean, I'd heard about that, I know he's linked to mindgeek, when he made a worse version of something I made I just kind of laughed
>>37885438I'm assuming you are talking about Bambi here not NeuralNets.>He also used patreon information to get the email addresses of girls who listened to his content and blackmail them into recording his (stolen from other artists) contentI'm not gonna lie, if I knew there were a bunch of women flicking the bean to my content and I had their contact information, I'd try to finagle my way into some shit too lol (not getting them to record content though).>he will sue you (he's a university professor but makes 8 figures (((for some reason)))This kinda just makes him sound more legit lol. Then (((small hats))) might be evil, but the shit they do actually works.
>>37885489Bambi is made by "bambi prime", I don't know much about them but that anon is talking about someone else who is involved in the sissy shilling movementI don't know man, suspicious financial connections and literal sex trafficking through blackmail is kind of messed up
>>37885515Must be talking about neuralnets then.
>>37885515>suspicious financial connections and literal sex trafficking through blackmail is kind of messed upHey, a lot of the metals required for us to buy and use our precious tech devices (phones, computers, etc) are the result of poor Africans being exploited to mine precious metals for crumbs. You aren't going to throw away your tech are you?I look at this the same way. I'm just looking for something legit that works, so that I can use it for my own purposes. It's gonna keep happening whether I use it or not.
>>37852745The more I read about hypnosis the more it looks like what people describe as social/soft skills, with some understanding about the unconscious sprinkled up
>>37885420I had stumbled into it after doing a rabbit hole plunge from the buzzfeed article Let's see if I can find it
>>37885636Ah yes, everything is just falling into place now. I hope you find it.Someone in here recommended Gerald Kein, an old school hypnotist who trained a lot of hypnotists himself and most of his stuff is just "pure hypnotism" (no trying to make it sound magical). Seems legit so I already started downloading whatever course material I could find for him. One of his courses specifically targets the problem I'm trying to solve.You should look into it if you haven't already. Definitely worth studying. Seems a lot more legit that the gimmicky stuff I've seen from other hypnotists like Igor Ledochowski.
>>37885720Found something even better lmaohttps://kemono.su/patreon/user/2718675/post/30902280Thanks for the recs, to you and other anons ITT
>>37885768>Thanks for the recsThanks for the source. This will be very useful, it's the actual process for the creation. It's as close to the details I want that I could get, the rest I can figure out.I'm gonna browse around the kemono and see if I can find some more stuff.
>>37885768STAY OUT OF THIS THREAD YOU STUPID HORNY FUCKS THE BAMBI BULLSHIT TAPES HAVE THEIR OWN THREAD
>>37884997You’re such a massive faggotEvery time you come in here and completely redirect the entire thread away from discussing anything actually interesting.You clearly know ABSOLUTELY FUCKING NOTHING about this shit if don’t look at a single source of information (you don’t provide sources for your info) and then quickly go to accuse me of not knowing what hypnosis is and acting like depth isn’t important. Depth is literally THE MOST important factor. Ever heard of a depth test you retarded fuck? What are all the charts I’ve posted pictures of? You haven’t posted a single thing to backup any of your claims. At all.You are a fucking shill using AI generated bullshit to redirect this thread away from sensitive topics. Do you think I’m retarded? Half this thread is porn because weak minds get easily distracted by that shit. Not to mention you can’t even spell Derren Browns name right and claim he is a LARPer when he’s one of the best if not the best mentalist currently alive who works this stuff in public. Literally any TV special of his is a masterclass in real hypnosis.https://youtu.be/884Z34w5OGs?feature=sharedhttps://youtu.be/dy75GtKsOAw?feature=sharedhttps://youtu.be/T4u1Zo4szkw?feature=sharedDon’t act like you’ve done the levels of research into this that I have, pic related
>>37877631I thought Project Monarch and Cathy O'Brien's testimony was bullshit until the Harley Pasternak texts got released. It just so happens that a Hollywood "personal trainer", who has many high power celebrity clients, used to be an experimenter who worked at DRDC Toronto? For those that don't know, during WW2, Canada was the allied leader of Psychological warfare experiments and developed tactics to disrupt enemy troops. After the war, DRDC Toronto was a major center for MKULTRA, LSD and other psychotropic drugs were tested on unwilling subjects. To this day, their function is "human centric" military research, particularly psychological tolerances. In his texts, he clearly threatens Kanye West institutionalization again (the first time was at Harley's house). Why the fuck would a personal trainer be the one to involuntarily commit a public figure? It makes no sense given his position. Kanye gave a brief glimpse into the world of Hollywood handlers that most never have witnessed.
>>37886052>Every time you come in here and completely redirect the entire thread away from discussing anything actually interesting.Lol, me mentioning Gerald Kein was more useful than anything you posted and most of the posts in the thread, what are you talking about.>Do you think I’m retarded?Yes, that or trolling.>Derren Brownhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=884Z34w5OGsThis video you linked is retarded and fake as hell, not a good example to use to prove your case.
>>37886226All your shit is fake and gay too then I guess. Keep LARPing about sex slaves and audio tapes faggot, you look fucking stupid to anybody that actually works with this stuff. And stop astroturfing your own shit.
Jokes on you both I will be researching everything
>>37886531>All your shit is fake and gay too then I guess. Keep LARPing about sex slaves and audio tapes faggotThe more you respond, the more you prove that you haven't read a thing I said. I'm not interested in sex slaves, I'm interested in the fact that the specific audio files were actually effective.I'm willing to look into anything that seems like it could be effective.
>>37886531Based>>37886789gay bambi shill who made multiple threads that are not /x/ related and should kill themselves, now
>>37851496It got most people to take a genetics altering experiment and call it a vaxine.
>>37886814>gay bambi shill who made multiple threads that are not /x/ related and should kill themselves, nowMy only active thread is the bambi one, I got the info about it from this thread.
>>37886814Thanks. I should mention the idiot seems to have massive cognitive dissonance surrounding this whole thing. He’s cherry picking parts of hypnosis that fit whatever his agenda is. The fact of the matter is Bambi tapes are a total LARP. To believe an audio tape can put a person into a true trance with any depth at all is ridiculous. The audio hypnosis and self hypnosis stuff you’ll find is the “social” level of hypnosis. This is the stuff you’ll find online, YouTube videos, porn, etc. It’s light stuff that borders on the clinical aspects of hypnosis that people like Erickson worked on. The clinical/therapeutic aspect of hypnosis is many times stronger than anything kind of taped audio due to induction and depth. A hypnotherapist can achieve depth and use real induction techniques because EVERY SINGLE PERSON needs to induced differently depending on their personality. Let me explain why tapes don’t work: any track has to be custom to the person who’s listening in order to be effective. Even when the CIA was creating DID in people using headphones they had to create custom audios tracks for every patient. The fact of the matter is any tape assumes we all have the exact same brain structure and patterns, hypnosis is a fluid thing that’s changing dependent on the person it’s not a “one size fits all”. The “one size fits all” works on some very surface level to put people that are the most susceptible and receptive to hypnotic techniques into a very light trance of around 1-2 on the depth scale that can work for very light things such as quitting smoking etc.
The clinical aspect of hypnosis is where things get interesting, on one end of the spectrum you have hypnotherapists and something akin to talk therapy, NLP, etc and on the other end of the spectrum you have people like Milton Erickson who I quote:“frequently trained a patient through several sessions for eight or ten hours and sometimes even more until a stuporous trance was obtained. He then spentmore time developing somnambulism in this deep state so that the patient could walk, talk and be mentally active although in deep hypnosis."While Erickson’s techniques where developed for purely clinical practice to extend on the type of development one can achieve through very light hypnosis, it also borders on the third and final and strongest aspect of hypnosis which is stage hypnosis and mentalism. Stage hypnosis/mentalism similar to Derren Brown, Hadad the magician (go read the true story from the 1950’s you lazy fuck: https://www.searchwithin.org/download/magician_of_leavenworth.pdf), and ARTICHOKE techniques are what I consider to be “true” hypnosis in that it’s indistinguishable from magic. The depth of this hypnosis is always at least a stage 4 to pass the amnesia barrier and can go as deep as a stage 6 where negative hallucinations, plenary or comatose trance via suggestion, hypnoanalysis, dramatics, reconditioning, crystal and mirror gazing, regression, and desensitization techniques all can occur. All the secrets to this type of hypnosis are heavily guarded information that’s very hard to come by. If you know anything about magic then you should know there are some things that the public simply doesn’t know because magicians are maybe the best people at keeping secrets behind spies.
>>37887321The issue with discussing hypnosis here in this thread is people seem to think that the same stuff that works for mentalists who can put people at a 4-6 stage depth has anything to do with the people making audio tracks that work on NPCs at 1-2 stage depth. Additionally this is a very wide subject matter and any one thing I mention I can’t go into too much detail even if I could simply because I don’t have the time which is why I am very open to people asking legitimate questions. Don’t know where to start? Look at public files on MKULTRA sub projects 73, 29, 35, 128, 49, 25.
>>37887310>Tapes cant hypnotize youI agree with everything but this, it's just not magic
>>37887408Did you even read my explanation for why it doesn’t work? Yes it works in some circumstances. If someone has already worked on a person and induced them before it will work and can put them into a deep stage. People that are willing, susceptible, and easily hypnotizable also have ease entering stages 1-2. Keep in mind it’s only at a stage 3 and deeper than you develop amnesia. It’s simply not possible to get someone to below stage 3 with no outside work via taped audio alone because there are active variables. I wish I could come up with an analogy that makes sense but hypnosis/trance are very fluid states the same way you have a conversation. You can’t have a conversation with a video or audio tape because it can’t respond to your input at all. Everybody is going to have a different experience with induction and claiming there’s a one size that fits all is naive and you will never get to anything deeper than could be achieved through clinical hypnotherapy for example so you’re not going to have anything crazy from the even more complex side of things relating to stage/mentalism. The most basic element of stage/mentalism involves depth and extensive depth testing for example and there’s absolutely no way for the person hypnotizing to depth test if you’re just listening to a prerecorded audio.
>>378514962 wordssexy hypnosis
>>37874194Meditation is real
>>37864569>It’s all bullshit.https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/11/15/ohio-lawyer-hypnotized-six-female-clients-then-he-molested-them/https://abc7chicago.com/lawyer-hypnosis-assault-michael-fine-divorce/1716529/
>>37892594>Silly chud, don't you know it was the lawyer's AUTHORITY that made them act that way and gave them amnesia.
>>37892594>https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/11/15/ohio-lawyer-hypnotized-six-female-clients-then-he-molested-them/I'm disappointed he stopped at molesting lol.
Ignore the sick fuck above me went into work today at the SCIF and my badge didn’t work. Don’t let this thread die anon, they are trying to derail it as much as possible due to all the useful information I’ve posted here. don’t let my unemployment be in vain, keep this thread alive.
>>37894103>Ignore the sick fuck above meYou and I both know if any of us get "hentai protagonist powers" (mind control, freezing time, etc) what most of us are gonna do, stop pretending lol.
>>37882697I might get the Holmqvist book. I'm interested in making my own audio. Do I have to make separate tracks or just listen to the same one that has my goals in it every day? Any specific tips for a self-hypnosis audio?
>>37894147Dude. I’d rob banks and go to cool places you could never normally see with powers. Having powers and then just using them to take advantage of women sounds gay as fuck.
>>37890853I am going to bang cymbals in your ear. If you can’t meditate, that proves it’s not real.
>>37894539>I’d rob banks and go to cool places you could never normally see with powersThe first thing I would do is use whatever ability I got to build wealth, but I'm definitely gonna use it for sex too.>Having powers and then just using them to take advantage of women sounds gay as fuckWho said "just", of course men are going to use it for money too. Also don't see how it's gay.Let's say I had mind control abilities, even if I didn't use it to brainwash women for sex, if I went the straight and narrow route and got married, I'd still brainwash my wife into being 100% faithful and never cheating, because infidelity is actually really common in these modern times (especially for women).The time freezing one is actually the most useless one between the two, doesn't have much practical use, much prefer mind control.
So many people here really do not understand the subjectivity of hypnosis. First off, not every highly hypnotizable subject is the same. For example, very hypnotizable subjects are either fantasizers or dissociatives. Fantasizers describe the experience like a very vivid daydream, or other imaginative activities. Dissociatives have no point of reference for their experience, and often cannot describe it. Also their level of “deep hypnosis” are usually much lower than fantasizers. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/1454907/
>>37894583being able to maintain inner silence in the presence of such pressure is the point of meditation. you learn to stop reacting and how to respond. you leash the primitive monkeybrain and the higher self leads the body as its trained and disciplined pet. "you" are the guardian of your human.hypnosis allows one self to leash another self, but the subject has to allow it. the appearance of being overpowered is just a show of submission like swooning (or gooning).
>>37894539>nigga has god like power>only care about moneyNigga MONEY is the lowest thing, the easiest thing for someone with powersIt’s pretty fucking easy with practically any power >time freeze? Play blackjack, make it, go home.>mond control? Literally tell people to work and give you the moneyI don’t know why anyone care so much about money in the face of such powers.Now that I am saying “I am above money” no, I wanna be rich too. But the thing is, all the benefits of absurd amount of money goes away when you have real powers.
>>37892594You all stupid.First of all, I was saying ONLINE FILES /“are bullshit.Second, Nigga they WANTED to fuck him, “I was hypnotized” was an excuse.If they were “hypnotized” how come they came out for rape accusationThey say it’s rape because they wanna pretend they never had control over their actions, but it’s completely a lie.They consented to be “hypnotized” and then withdraw their “consent” and it’s now rape
>>37895084Consent isn’t required, jesus christ read the fucking thread disproving that bullshit. Why do you retards keep thinking that the person has to fucking consent when it’s proven people have been forced into hypnosis.
>>37896465>read the thread>a lawyer who “hypnotized” women to sex>it’s not that the women WANTED to have sec with him, and he just gave them a reason (which they came to regret and now pretending to be “forced” into it)>nooooo he brainwashed and raped them!!!Jesus Christ how gullible Also funny that you say “consent is not required” as if the women didn’t come to his office willingly, listened to him, and agreed to be hypnotized willingly. It’s as if they were bashed in the head and then brainwashed in a dungeon kek
>>37896317>>37896607You guys really don't want this to be real for some reason.
>>37896607>Hypnosis isn't real! >Because....because they we're abused by someone they trusted! Read about ARTICHOKE and MKULTRA you fucking moron. Kidnapped subjects could be corralled in a number of ways to achieve hypnosis, none requiring consent. People have been hypnotized to commit acts they do not agree with, it is not difficult for an experienced hypnotist to achieve this.
>>37896317Read the articles. The LAWYER who PLEAD GUILTY is on video where someone agrees to a breathing exercise and nothing more.
>>37895084>higher selfRetard.
>>37878236kek>thas my wife you talkin bout anon
>>37885768there's a whole thread for shypno on /tor/
>>37894583what are you even on /x/ for dude
>>37879562watch Dan Browns documentary on this, if you havent already. Its fascinating.'The real Manchurian candidate' on youtube
Holy shit this thread is being derailed by glowies so hard. They really don't like people discussing this topic. Sidney Gottlieb and all CIA niggers are burning in hell for their torturous experiments.
>>37895084>hypnosis allows one self to leash another self, but the subject has to allow it. Brainlet detected
>>37897511I saw that camera footage.But she needs to AGREE. If he can hypnotize them to have sex with him, he could have also make them so they don’t remember anything.He couldn’t? I don’t believe that >he pleaded guilty He is accused of rape, and sensationalized. There was no way to sway the jurors. Pleading guilty was the best case scenario for him really.>>37897070Nigga both artichoke and mkuktra involved heavy use of drugs.I told someone here before, with drugs, you can ACTUALLY brainwash people, consent or not, and make assassins and fantics out of them.Hell, the OG assassins in Iran, were drugged by hasshih and then hypnotized by use of women set in a beautiful garden and promised a return to this beautiful paradise only if they finish their missions.Can a normal person really believe that they just went to heaven after hard drugging? NoBut hypnotized ones? SureWhatever this lawyer did, didn’t involve drugs and as such, can’t be comparable to artichoke nor mkultra.
>>37899325>if you don’t buy into my mind control magic fantasy you’re a glowie
>>37899928>If he can hypnotize them to have sex with him, he could have also make them so they don’t remember anything."She would be unable to recall substantial portions of the meetings, and afterwards she would realize her clothes and bra were out of place and moved, and her vagina was wet,” reported investigator Richard Thomas.After being told by cops that “more definite evidence” was needed, the woman recorded her next two telephone conversations with Fine, and provided the tapes to police. As described by Thomas, one of the October recordings begins with a discussion of the woman’s court case, “but when Fine learns she is alone, he places her in a trance.” What follows, Thomas noted, “is of an explicit sexual nature, wherein he induces her into multiple orgasms.”The bar association motion charges that Fine used “code” words to induce “Jane Doe” to “enter a trance-like stage.” While his client was hypnotized, Fine told her that she was “being made love to by the world’s greatest lover” and that he was her “teacher.” The attorney also assured “Jane Doe” that she “will appear normal and only remember their discussions regarding legal matters,” Thomas stated.An October 21 phone call followed a similar script, with Fine inducing “Jane Doe” into a trance after a “short conversation about her case.” During the call, Thomas reported, Fine told the woman he would cause her “horniness and arousal and excitement” and a “life-changing experience.” The bar association complaint adds Fine told the woman that their encounters were “a secret and no one’s going to know, right.” Fine, who directed the woman to bring a vibrator to their next office meeting, ended the call by saying, “You’ll only recollect what we were talking about your case until we see each other tomorrow. Do you understand?”http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/Ohio-lawyer-hypnotizes-female-clients-687543
>>37899985>He thinks Mind Control is le fantasy >Ignores whole thread proving otherwise Way to filter yourself derail fag.
>>37900021Fine. Whatever. I look into it further. I am still very skeptic.So thanks for the spoon feeding
>>37899325Mention someone clucking like a chicken on reddit, and like clockwork a person will be there to tell you nobody can be made to do something. "There's nothing to see here, move along!" - as if desires, choices and actions can have no nuance or influences. They wouldn't dare do that about alcohol or with a telemarketer pressuring an old lady.
>>37884997Then why does erikson discuss depth in his research papers and monographs that no client would read, including in one about his autohypnosis? Nigger?
So, no hypno technique for unlimited pussy?
>>37901393hypnotism requires an acute sense of the subject's mental state. something I'm sure you struggle with.
>>37898808This is pretty good stuff. He gives a very good outline of why MKULTRA tactics are so effective, and how to reprogram the mind of any subject. The part where he talks about kidnapping Canadian Cabinet member's spouses is very startling. They knew they are above any laws or retribution, and love to showcase their power.
