This stuff is fucking trash. I smoked daily for 13 years before quitting, and the positive effects have been huge.>intrusive thoughts: gone>anxiety: gone>no longer feel the need to goon every day>don't feel like I'm going to have a heart attack every time I walk up a set of stairs anymore>no longer binge eat a bunch of shit at 1amBoomers were right, this really is the devil's lettuce. It destroys your spiritual barrier and allows demons to wiggle into your subconscious that compel you to become a fat, lazy, hedonistic retard. If you haven't come to the same conclusion yet, you will.
>>37863209I didn't have ANY of those problems when I smoked every day. The only reason I stopped was because it started affecting my oral health.
>>37863209I haven't smoked for 2 yars and just recently re smokedIt's interesting cause it puts you in this super anxious state and my reasoning is "why?" why do I give this bodily state so much value and why does it occur, it became meditative, sure, after a while my query becomes, why the fuck did I smoke, I don't want to do anything now, but for meditative purposes it can help.Made me realize that fear is pretty useless.the problem is becoming dependent of it to "stir things up" and to just do it cause of social settings.
>>37863209It's not for everyoneJust the people that can use it
>>37863224It has basically been hell mentally without it, but I recognize that it was a crutch. I was actually ripped and mentally healthy when I smoked. When I quit, I started fapping, which I hadn't done since my teens, and also stress eating. It never affected my lungs at all.
>>37863229epic bro, you definitely won't end up being a fat loser
>>37863209It has its uses. It was helpful to me in thinking through some problems from my past and resolving unresolved issues. That being said, a few months back I realized that I’d exhausted it’s utility for the time being and was just chasing the high so I stopped using. I’ve switched to Amanita Muscaria + Blue lotus tea before bed which has been much more productive for where I’m at right now. These plants are tools. They need to be used responsibly and with intent, just like any other tool.
The "come up anxiety" from weed and other psychedelics can be turned into huge amounts of inner tranquility when you consciously slow down those vibrations into a sort of slow undulation emanating outwards.
>>37863367pseudo scientific hippy faggotry
>>37863209>>don't feel like I'm going to have a heart attack every time I walk up a set of stairs anymoreyou have bigger problems than injecting weed
i enjoy weed because it pulls all of the tenseness away from my body, it's such an orgasmic feeling, feeling like you finally fit inside of your body again, but then if i binge, i become sore and start having to need to do yoga inorder to help me feel somewhat okay. there are knots in my body i can't untangle when i'm deep in a binge. i also find it hard to stop to begin with because the withdrawals are physically painful and emotionally charged ordeals, so i just keep smoking to avoid them. it's a pretty vicious cycle and i can't seem to find a natural balance. i think that i smoke because i neglect myself in other areas in life, and seek that pleasure to avoid having to really try and develop myself positively otherwise because it takes effort and will. i feel like a large contributing factor is not really having irl friends, especially those who accept me for who i am because i feel an ambient brainfog, that kind which occurs when nobody is around to make you consciously aware of yourself in relation to others. it's the reason why it's so easy to neglect, say, doing the dishes because you know no guest will ever come to perceive you as a slob. not trying to imply that judgment is the sole mechanism upon which this relies on to cure this type of brainfog, but having an active social environment in which you can create a perception of yourself, a person who you'd like to be to begin with because when no one's looking, who cares what becomes of you?i think it's the same reason of why they put mirrors in gyms, it's that intrinsic motivation of perceiving the self from a different perspective other than yourself, which allows you to create an illusion of the self and allows you to manipulate this illusion to become someone you'd like to be. if you can fool others, or at least have them perceive you the way that you want them to perceive you, it reinforces the illusion, and then the illusion eventually becomes you.
>>37865005i notice this type of conscious energy which originates in others than yourself. they always say, "two brains is better than one" and it's true because it's like your collective conscious energy is multiplied and you become more than just the sum of two parts. i feel like there is a danger in excessive perception of the illusion of one's self in others, especially in this vain age of social media. i think somehow, the line between self and persona is blurred, that you are constantly perceiving every interaction personally, instead of realizing it is the outwards persona which you present to others. somehow other peoples' thoughts suddenly become as though they are your own, and not originating from outside, but falsely from within. it feels like people do not know how to make that distinction because we are almost bound to a cultural expectation to broadcast every intimate part of our lives for the world to see. it is excessively vain, and one's true self gets swallowed up in the persona because the persona is all that matters to anyone anymore. i think the only way past this, is to recognize that this is an addiction in and of itself, and that one needs to spend a healthy amount of time to themselves inorder to reclaim the person who they were before they adopted this mask, which not only requires a large amount of effort to maintain, but also prevents themselves from recognizing their true inherent worth, and how it isn't dependent on others, like le society would expect us to believe.
>>37863209Abusing a drug is retarded, retard, the plant can't be blamed for your misaligned behaviour.
stuff is getting stronger every year, it's ridiculous. I'm not sure if the studies saying it was innocuous are still valid desu
>>37863354>I’ve switched to Amanita Muscaria + Blue lotus tea before bed which has been much more productive for where I’m at right now.That's pretty cool. I have wanted to try Amanita Muscaria in particular for some time now, albeit responsibly as you outlined. I totally agree that substances should be tools. Recreational is a slippery slope. And of course fuck shit like fent/heroin/meth.
>>37863209You are not supposed to smoke it daily; that was your problem. It is supposed to use as a stimulant, i.e. used to stimulate spiritual experiences. If you use it as a daily habit it is obviously going to deplete you of your mental power, as all drugs carry with them a price; that is part of the deal of getting uplifted, of escaping into a new realm of reality. Drugs are tools, just like a trip to Spain can be a tool.
>>37865367this. >>37863209no drug will ever be a catch-all for every single person. I'd be willing to bet you still enjoy some stimulant action. (or maybe a little booze)
Took you 13 years to realize huh?Sounds like you might have a case of mild retardation, don't blame the plant for your shortcomings you fat lazy faggot.
>>37863209Weed made me so crazy I had a mental break but I feel like it helped me realign my morals as a result so I guess it's good but I'm never smoking again.
>>37866161It highlighted your mental problems, healthy minds can't break under weed. Usually crazies find weed soothing.
>>37863209Weed is for fags. Tobacco is for real men.
>>37867076weed turns men into incels. the only reason pothead incels are the only ones who have IRL girlfriends is because they have weed
>>37863209You blaming a plant for you difficulties and issues. Says alot about your self control.Are those bad habits the plants fault or yours?Stop blaming everything else, put the blame on yourself if you actually want progress
>>37866055everyone takes cocaine, every inventor atleast.
>>378632096 liters of water will kill you
idk weed is a double edged swordidk wtf anyone else is going through but there are like short term mid and long term problems of minor mid or major seriousness and sometimes you just want to fucking kill yourself so to smoke weed is just to have patience. on the other hand when you have too much patience that's not good.this life is really ironic like I smoke weed to deal with other people and they smoke weed too sometimes allegedly to deal with people as well.. I'm smoking to deal with them too lol. Everyone thinks they're dumbo. it hardly matters where the problems are coming from sometimes, if the person who is able to fix things gets their dick cut off. So some people are just toxic as shit and other people smoke weed. People think weed is just all downhill but even if there were no potheads at a job they'd still all be moving slow as shit and moving slower just bc what, there's a pothead doing five times the work you're doing... man it must be so awful doing fucking nothing and getting paid lol
>>37863209How were you able to stop?
Switch to shrooms.
>>37870753This is why talking to potheads is so frustrating. You ramble on randomly and call it wisdom.
It is possible to have medicinal microdoses but for some reason 4chan is often ALL OR NOTHING!!!
>>37868348>Weed turns men into incelsTimestamp girl, boobs down, you have 1 hour.
>>37863209Wise words. Experimenting with it a few times is ok though
>>37863209Starting or stopping a drug or undergoing any other lifestyle change can have similar effects. The reward centers of your brain are lighting up from your sense of accomplishment, and you've been a stoner so long it is sobriety that had the appealing sheen of novelty to you. I am not trying to burst your bubble or defend weed, I never liked it because of intensely amplified paranoia. However I just feel you might want to moderate your perpspective shift so you don't overdue it and become a zealot. Most drugs are perfectly fine so long as it is done properly, in moderation, and for a good cause beyond simple boredom or vice. You used weed excessively as a vice, and continued beyond the point of developing issues out of addiction. Bruce Lee occasionally used it because it helped him focus his mind on his musculoskeletal system while working out, in certain ways that elduded him while sober. My point is, it isn't the devil's lettuce, the devil was in you who was consuming the lettuce.
>>37874313>it isn't the devil's lettuceIt is the niggers lettuce though...
>>37863209(((YOU)))are basically correct. Long time user too.
>>37863209I have cannabinoid hyperemesis syndrome it is truly hell
Im happy for you but now that youre over it...get over it. Stop talking about it socializing with potheads etc. Its a good first step but you have to step past it. You will probably lose friends that live in dingy apartments. Good luck. Its not demonic per se but it does bring people more into the mundane world which is metaphorically demonic. And now that youre not a pothead you may have to learn to not be a passive aggressive bitch. No offense.
>>37863209havent smoked since halloween. longest ive gone in years. i think ill have some joints ready when i eventually do mushrooms but im in no hurry to smoke again for now. i like feelign sober again and being able to drive when i need to.
>>37863209Imagine blaming cannabis for your porn addiction.
>>37863209Facts, psychedelics showed me that living a sober life is more fulfilling. I quit everything never looked back since.
>>37876576now you need to quit 4chan
>>37876576thank god for my smartphone. it's the only way i can deal with some of my pothead friends. they might as well just pop pillies as many dabs that they do back after back. i took one dab drag and it felt like death right around the corner. they told me i need to get used to it. they can go fuck themselves. i sorta miss the ole laid back, cheech & chong days of reg weed, but there's no turning back on that shit now
>>37876427have you seriously never smoked weed and jerked off? if you haven't please shut up LOL
>>37863209Dude same but then I got addicted again.I think I never actually quit by choice, everyone just went to jail so I had no more connections.But the Farm Bill loophole made it accessible again and now I am worse off and I "only" smoke once a day.Once you're clean of it for a few months you realize how badly it fucks you up.Such an insidious and demonic drug.It really really is insidious.
>>37863209I'm actually starting to think that's it is not the drug but us people who are fucked up.Life is just repression and maybe when we smoke wr pop up the lid and let the reppressed things come out>Man character is build on lies
I think weed is a big reason I fell into a state of psychosis for 6 months. Smoked everyday, multiple times a day, from 15 until I was 22. I'm not against weed and I think people can do as they please. But I think there needs to be more awareness around the potential negative mental health effects it can have. Especially for teenagers.
