Trismegistus means "Thrice-Greatest", referring to the fact that Thoth, as the Egyptians knew Hermes, had the title of "Lord of the eight gods" (the Ogdoad of Hermopolis), formed by 4 syzygis of Egyptian primordial gods with frog/serpent heads (Nun/Naunet, Heh/Heqet, Kek/Kauket and Amun-Ra/Amunet), animals that live near rivers such as Thoth's own bird, the Ibis, represented Time, Space, Darkness and Light. 3+3+3=9, that is, the 8/Ogdoad plus 1/Thoth, who administered the Duat (Egyptian Heaven linked to the Primordial Waters) together with his wife Maat. In Sumer, it was the god Enki, associated with the planet Mercury like Thoth/Hermes, who defeated and transformed its parts into his own kingdom, the primordial god Abzu, who fathered with his wife Tiamat (defeated by Enki's son, Marduk, who transformed it into Heaven, Earth and Underworld), three Syzygies (Lahmu/Lahamu, Anshar/Kishar and Anu/Antu).According to the Phoenician historian Sanchuniathon and Egyptian Manetho, Hermes-Thoth (Mercury), son of Misor-Mestor, was the eighth king of the Aletae/Aeritae (Atlanteans) who founded a colony in Egypt, being the inventor of hieroglyphs (the divine Egyptian alphabet from which the Phoenician language and by extension Greek derives), under the orders of Geb-Elus-Cronos, the fourth king of Atlantis, whose secretary he was and advised him to overthrow his father Uranus-Epigeius-Autochthon and avenge his mother Ge/Gaia, helping him along with Cronus' virgin daughter, Athena, to build his iron sickle/spear and inspiring his allies, the Eloim, with magical words. When they won the war against Uranus, Hermes advised Cronos to conspire against his nephew Atlas while the descendants of Suduc-Elasippus (brother of Misor-Mestor), the Dioscuri/Cabeiri/Corybantes/Samothracians, sailed between the seas.
Plato's ancestor, Solon, learned about Atlantis from the priests of the 26th dynasty in Sais, Egypt, whose goddess Neith was syncretized with Athena, goddess of Plato's city-state. Neith is a very important goddess in predynastic Egyptian dynasties (before Egypt was unified). Supposedly, the Greeks called the first kings of Ancient Egypt, Aeritae or Aeria, and they also claimed that both are corruptions of the same root for Atlas and Atlantis. The Aeritaens are predynastic demigods and spirits of the dead who migrated to Egypt. Or something like this. And the lineage given by Plato supposedly corresponds to the lineage given by Manetho, an Egyptian priest who lived during the Ptolemeic era. He is the author of Aegyptiaca, the history of Ancient Egypt, a work that has not survived in its entirety. Manetho knew how to read and write Hieroglyphs, but he did all his work in Greek. The first Aeritaen king according to Manetho was Ptah-Hephaestus, the second Ra-Helios, the third Shu-Agathodaemon, the fourth Geb-Cronos, the fifth Osiris-??? (probably Dionysus), the sixth Seth-Typhon, the seventh Horus-??? (probably Hercules), the eighth Thoth-??? (probably Hermes), the ninth Maat-??? (probably Athena) and the tenth Horus-Apollo.Horus appears twice because there are Horuses in Egyptian Mythology: Horus, the Elder (Haroeris) and Horus, the posthumous son of Osiris. In any case, it is interesting to discover in this connection that in Egypt the planet Saturn was Her-Ka, "Horus the Bull", which could be referring to this first Horus who in Sumer was known as Ninurta, the hero of the gods, like Hercules (which probably arose from the Phoenician version of Ninurta, Melqart, who also gave rise to Baal-Hammon, the god of Carthage).
The Phoenician historian Sanchuniathon, writing 600 years before Plato's birth, refers to the original kings of Egypt as "Aleteans" (Atlantians). He mentions this well after speaking of Hephaestus, saying "He was Hephaestus, and invented the hook, and bait, and line, and raft, and was the first of all men to make a voyage: wherefore they revered him also as a god after his death. And he was also called Zeus Meilichios" and before talking about the Caibiri (Sons of Hephaestus in Greek Mythology), the inventors of ships, and Atlas, the founder of Atlantis. Sanchuniathon said that he learned about all this from the Ammouneis (priests of the god Amun-Ra, the greatest god in Egypt). and with Hierombalus, which is actually the Phoenician name of the biblical prophet Gideon.https://atlantisquestscience.wordpress.com/culture/ancient-writings/timeline-of-ancient-sources/https://www.arcus-atlantis.org.uk/atlantis/was-thoth-an-atlantean.html
Was Thot the same being that was Enki?
>>38966165>Horus appears twice because there are Horuses in Egyptian Mythology: Horus, the Elder (Haroeris) and Horus, the posthumous son of Osiris. In any case, it is interesting to discover in this connection that in Egypt the planet Saturn was Her-Ka, "Horus the Bull",That explains Baal's link with Saturn, but what about the hexagon?
>>38966602Baal (Hadad) is Seth, the god of the Hyksos (Proto-Israelites/Jews), not Horus. The connection between Seth and Saturn is that they are both usurpers and that they were castrated (Cronus was castrated by Zeus according to Byzantine historian John Tzetzes). Not only is it the number 6, but Saturn is also connected to the number 7. Seth in my language (Portuguese) means Seven, I don't know if it's a false cognate/coincidence. BTW King Minos of Crete, son of the Phoenician (Canaanite) princess Europa, sacrificed 7 boys and 7 girls to the Minotaur every 7 years.>Unlike the other heathen gods, Moloch had his place of worship outside the walls of Jerusalem. His idol stood in the innermost of SEVEN chambers or cells, separated by grated doors (קנקליו, Low Greek κάγκελλοι). The worshipper who offered a bird was admitted to the first or outer cell; he who offered a goat, to the second; a sheep, to the third; a calf, to the fourth; a young steer, to the fifth; a bull, to the sixth; and he who brought his son as an offering alone might enter into the seventh, the presence chamber of the deityHonestly, Seth also shares very characteristics with Uranus, since his original Libyan version, Ash, was a sky-god who had the shape of a serpent in the same way as in the original Phoenician versions of Greek Mythology, according to Pherecydes of Syros, Uranus was Ophioneus/Ophion. Perhaps this is why Seth is associated with Apophis/Lotan, the serpent of Mount Zephon, who gave rise to the serpent Python and Typhon, as the Egyptians called Seth. Uranus also sounds similar to Uraeus/Ouraeus, the Egyptian royal serpent and Vouruna (Asura-Medhira), the Lord of the Asuras (Vedic Titans) who gave rise to Ahura-Mazda.
>>38967178Also:>Baal is accompanied by his “seven pages, eight boars” (5, V, 9). Tammuz is killed by 7 demons from the underworld. Resheph, “the burning one”, kills Adonis in the shape of a boar. The hunter is often followed by 7 helpers seen as boars. A text from Ugarit refers to the demons as “flies”, so the title “Lord of the Flies” (Baal Zebub) is “Lord of the swarm of flying demons”>The Chaldæans call the God Dionysos (or Bacchus), Iao in the Phœnician tongue (instead of the Intelligible Light), and he is also called Sabaoth, signifying that he is above the Seven poles, that is the DemiurgosThe place above the Seven planets/heavens is called the Region of the Fixed Stars (The Constellations/Zodiac/Mazzaroth), which is associated with the Sephirah of Chokmah, whose planet is Uranus. According to Sanchuniathon, Baal is the son of Uranus, not Cronus.https://www.tertullian.org/fathers/eusebius_pe_01_book1.htm>'To Kronos are born children, Persephone and Athena. The former died a virgin: but by the advice of Athena and Hermes Kronos made a sickle and a spear of iron. Then Hermes talked magical words to the allies of Kronos, and inspired them with a desire of fighting against Uranus on behalf of Ge. And thus Kronos engaged in war, and drove Uranus from his government, and succeeded to the kingdom. Also there was taken in the battle the beloved concubine of Uranus, being great with child, whom Kronos gave in marriage to Dagon. And in his house she gave birth to the child begotten of Uranus, which she named Demarus>'But Astarte, the greatest goddess, and Zeus Demarus, and Adodus king of gods, reigned over the country with the consent of Kronos. And Astarte set the head of a bull upon her own head as a mark of royalty; and in travelling round the world she found a star that had fallen from the sky, which she took up and consecrated in the holy island Tyre. And the Phoenicians say that Astarte is Aphrodite
>>38966552Yes. In Canaanite Mythology, Enki is the adoptive father of none other than Baal himself, which is associated with fishes like him.>Enki was the Sumerian god of wisdom, fresh water, intelligence, mischief, healing, creation, fertility, and art. His intelligent magic often included trickery to benefit the good of the human race. Enki is portrayed as a loving and caring god who uses his wisdom to find the best solution in every situation. He was seen as compassionate in nature, with a desire to nurture humans>The planet Mercury, associated with Babylonian Nabu (the son of Marduk) was, in Sumerian times, identified with Enki, as was the star Canopus>Baal Hadad is the son of a fish god Dagon who created humans very much like Dumuzi/Tammuz father Enki. Dagan is mentioned occasionally in early Sumerian texts but becomes prominent only in later Assyro-Babylonian inscriptions as a powerful and warlike protector, sometimes equated with Enki. Dagan's wife was in some sources the goddess Shala (also named as wife of Adad and sometimes identified with Ninmah)>Enki and later Ea were apparently depicted, sometimes, as a man covered with the skin of a fish, and this representation, as likewise the name of his temple E-apsu, "house of the watery deep", points decidedly to his original character as a god of the waters (see Oannes)>Drawing of a Hyksos scarab depicting an ancient Egyptian pharaoh as a Near-Eastern weather god Baal Hadad around two fish. The pharaoh is wearing the Red Crown of Lower Egypt. Steatite, from Tell el-Dab'a (ancient Avaris), presumably datable to the late Second Intermediate Period of Egypt>Representation of the god Baal Hadad the bottom of the body in the shape of a fish, the main divinity of the Phenician city of Arwad in Syria
I wish I could learn the real ancient history and not have to deal with the bible thumping cooks or the demon worshipers who despise truth.
>>38967178>>38967310>>38967932>Set, Sut, Sutekh, Sevekh, Shut, Shet, Shit son of Mother Typhon the Black Dragon. This is not to be confused with Typhṓs/Tyfeus the opponent of Zeus in Greek mythology. Typhon was later remembered as the hippopotamus goddess Ta-Urt, Apt, Ipet, Ipy, Aput, Kefa, Kivan, Kûn, Taweret. Set was represented by the pig and was seen as Son of the Mother with no father, the Bastard. Set-Typhon in an initiatory sense means Son-Mother. Today many people see this coupling in many cultures, they become: Isis & Osiris/Horus, Mary & Baby Jesus, Shakti & Shiva, Cybele & Attis, Frigga & Baldr, Astarte & Ba’al, ect. The Son in the ancient stellar cults became the Father of later-day solar cults. Inevitably, this is when the focus on darkness and night transformed into a focus on light and day around the world. We must remember, the first ruler of Heaven and Earth is infact the Dragon, the Dominatrix, the Tyrant; Typhon of the obscure aeons of night. Out of darkness comes light. In the solar era she is reduced to Devil or opponent of cosmic order. Sut as Neter of darkness/chaos embodies all the qualities of the archetypes that proceeded him and then some. In his most primal face he is Uranus, he is also Saturn who sacrificed his father>The Set-Typhon duad is remembered by the Babylonians in the Enuma Elish, consider the relationship between Tiamat & Kingu. In the stellar cults of Kemet, Sut is both son & husband of Typhon/Ta-Urt, much like Kingu is to Tiamat. Babylonians are most likely a later day Typhonian cult that venerated the ancient mother-son pair. This gives some context to the demonization of Babalon the Great in the Bible, and the Great Beast 666. Sut of the Typhonian & Draconian eras later became El, Al, Allah, Enlil-Enki, Bel, Yahweh, Saturn, Ba’al Zephon, Lord of the North, ect
>>38967964>To truly understand these divine archetypes we have to look at them from multiple angles and time periods. Typhon is the name of the Black Dragon (later known as Apep), who is the Great Bear constellation, she is the progenitor of all archetypes. She represents the Night and Void. Ta-Urt is the Red Dragon, Mother of Revolutions, and Mother of the cosmos. Set is seen as the Dog or the Sirius constellation, although this identification originally belonged to the goddess Sothis. Another name for Set is Sut-An, here we can see two roots. An or Anu in Sumer is son of Urash or Nammu, interestingly enough we hear very little about An’s character outside of his kingship in heaven. Sut means black and An means heaven, we can find hidden initiatory meaning in the phrase “Black Heaven.” Sut-An becomes known as Setan, the Phallic Dog, or the Penis; this becomes Sat-An the adversary of Hebrew cosmology who is degraded further into Satan the opposer of Light among Christians. The Father is also the Son, the projection of the Mother. The Britannica defines the psychological meaning of ‘projection’ as ” the mental process by which people attribute to others what is in their own minds.” God the Father & the Son of God are one with the Mother. Unity. 0, 1, ∞. God is the Devil(the Double) and the Devil is God’s Mom>The entirety of reality is simply a cosmic joke>“The Seven Cows, or Seven Hathors, are but a later form of the Water Cow, the seven-fold one of the Great Bear, first represented by the Hippopoatamus, the old Typhon whose son Sut, or Sevekh, was the Bull of the Seven Cows, as Sut-Anta before he had been superseded by Taht in the lunar mythos, and Osiris in the Solar.” – The Natural Genesis Vol. 2 by: Gerald Massey
>>38967982>“The seven elemental powers were afterwards… divinised and represented by seven gods; at first two, Horus and Sut, then Shu, and, afterwards, the other five. There are two lists of these in the Ritual…. The first three were the heroes, and play the great part in the folklore tales found all over the world. The old Earth Mother, Ta-Urt, was now divinised, and was represented as of both sexes and depicted by the Egyptians as the Great Mother Apt, who gave birth to the heroes.” – The Origin and Evolution of Primative Man by: Albert Churchward>“In fact, from the Egyptian Goddess Ta-Urt, the Mother of the Revolutions (the Cycles of Time), the symbolism of the Tarot was born. The Tarot was attributed to the Paths of the Tree of Life (the Paths of the Tree of Life represent Time) which are represented by the 24 Meridians (Sandhis) of Acupuncture.” – Magic of Atlantis by: Frank G. Ripel>“Fuerst and other Hebraists render the name of שׁבתי (from חיתבשׁ, or Jah is Saturn;” and according to Cedrenus the deity worshipped by the Chaldeans and Gnostics (those of the stones) known as the IAΩ… According to Eustathius IAO was identified with Baal, (that is, Bar-Typhon in Egypt), whose image was worshipped by Manasseh, one form of whom was Baal of the seventh heaven, or Saturn.” – The Natural Genesis Vol. 2 by: Gerald Massey
>>38967937how about picnotrel
>>38967982>0, 1, ∞Of course humans would come to worship this... and forget where it came from. It is quite funny... sad, but funny all the same.∞ will become known as [null] this time around is my bet... they have to feed it through a computer this go around... so funny.
>>38968047The solar surface is an accumulation of impurities that accumulate... once the surface plasma hits a certain threshold it will blow it all off in a very spectacular show. It has happened before and it will happen again. These sun worshipers, they knew what people today forgot or refuse to believe.Pretty sure ultra compressed hydrogen in liquid metallic form is hexagonally bonded.
>>38968126dont fucking take me for a trip
>>38968174That's as far as I can go. They'll delete this thread if I post anything more than skipping off the surface. I'm enjoying the history lesson :)
>>38968203I hear that shit (and so do they- FUCK YOU WHOEVER YOU ARE!)
>>38968215It's not very exciting. Expensive, hard to make but rather mundane once you understand it. Not as interesting as the people who lived through it and made myths out of the experiences--well, the survivors anyways.It's not up to me, the sun just does it's thing and the people that raise the alarms are mocked into oblivion by the herd who thinks it's all going to sail along smoothly forever.
>>38967937What happened to the sun in 03/04?
>>38966602Hexagon is a Language code Saying "Man-Made"
>>38969385So why do all natural things reduce as close as they can to hexagonal shapes?
>>38966178Atlantis = Doggerland. The great flood = the Holocene meltwater pulses. The Atlantaeans = Western Hunter Gatherers who were descended from the Gravettians. Thank me later.
>>38969808Because trigonal planar molecular bonds have the highest binding energy. If you haven't studied quantum mechanics, you might as well disregard the mathematical proof because it won't mean jack shit if I explained it in detail.
>>38969976>trigonal planar molecular bonds have the highest binding energyCan you be more specific about what you mean by "highest binding energy"?
>>38969988>Can you be more specific about what you mean by "highest binding energy"?The amount of energy it takes to pull an atom out of that molecular bond is very high. If the atoms were arranged in a different kind of bond, it would take less energy to break them out.
>>38970064>The amount of energy it takes to pull an atom out of that molecular bond is very high.Kay good, though I would suggest you change your wording.This is most often expressed in the other direction. It takes more energy to alter the hexagonal bond because it rests at the lowest energy state.>the hexagon shape is packed with the lowest surface parameter and very stable in single unit or array form by showing the lowest energy reduction>Objects 'store' a certain amount of energy. For example they have a potential energy due to gravity (a rock hanging in 10m height has more potential energy than a rock lying on the floor). Or they can store energy by deformation (e.g. a spring stores energy as 'strain energy' when you compress it, and releases that energy when you release it).>Objects tend to move towards the state of least energy. Thats kind of logical, because moving towards a higher energy state would require them to get that energy from somewhere, so theyd need an input for that (like you lifting a rock or compressing a spring), while the opposite direction releases energy and thus happens on its own. Essentially, springs dont compress themselves, but they do spring back to their original shape on their own. Or rocks dont lift themselves up, but they fall back down on their own - they assume the state of lower energy.>Translating that to the case of honeycombs is not easy. Honeycombs deform due to gravity. This deformation stores energy in the material. The amount of stored energy will be quite low in the hexagonal shape, because that hexagonal structure has a good amount stability against downward pull and thus the deformations that occur are not very large.
>>38966158>Hermes-Thoth (Mercury) was the eight king of the Aletae/Aeritae (Atlanteans) who founded a colony in EgyptAh, that plugs a hole in me divinations I didn't investigate yet.Thoth built the Great Pyramid and the other two beside it.Probably carved the lion out of the Sphinx too, before it was defaced later.
>>38969964>Atlantis = DoggerlandIt's probable Atlantis was a confederation of several islands and Doggerland one. Since the Greek historian Plutarch associates Atlantis with the Cronian Sea, which is the North Atlantic Sea to the West of the British Isles where Doggerland was located in the East. The Dioscuri/Cabeiri/Corybantes/Samothracians, the first navigators of the seas according to Sanchuniathon, were associated with Hephaestus, whose deformed appearance resembles of Neanderthals, who inhabited Doggerland.https://atlanticreligion.com/2014/03/08/plutarchs-account-of-cronus-worship-in-the-atlantic-north/>Here is an important part of a chapter from the Moralia of the 1st/2ndC CE Greek philosopher Plutarch, in which his narrators discuss a fascinating tradition of the worship of Cronus on an island somewhere off or in the archipelagos of Northwest Europe/Atlantic Sea. They then go on to digress on the Orphic mysteries... These passages detail an Atlantic cult of ‘Cronus’ whose initiates spend 30 years in service – the same period Caesar quoted for the druids. They also perform peregrinations from their central territory, where Cronus is believed interred in a cavern in the earth. Plutarch states this place to be Ogygia – an island supposed in Greek myth to have been inhabited by Atlas (Atlantis) and his daughter Calypso, who imprisoned Oddyseus for 7 years – a period of time typical to Irish fairy abduction myths written in the middle ages. Irish myths sometimes portray the magical islands associated with Manannan in such a way – including the Isle of Man. The name ‘Ogygia’ is connected to the Gyges or ‘giants’ of whom the Titans seem to be the main class in Greek myth. The names of Okeanos and Ogyges have been linked, and Plutarch’s account seems to back up this identity, perhaps conflating Cronus, Okeanos and Atlas/Atlantis under the same identity…
>>38970510>The text also discusses the flight of souls to the moon, which Plutarch describes as being near to Hades in the context of this chapter. Surely he is not describing a purely Greek myth? To the Greeks Hades’ realm is a chthonic underworld place, sitting above the pit of Tartarus…>From: ‘Concerning the Face Which Appears in the Orb of the Moon’:>26 …Almost before I had finished, Sulla broke in. “Hold on, Lamprias,” he said, “and put to the wicket of your discourse lest you unwittingly run the myth aground, as it were, and confound my drama, which has a different setting and a different disposition. Well, I am but the actor of the piece, but first I shall say that its author began for our sake — if there be no objection — with a quotation from Homer:>An isle, Ogygia, lies far out at sea,>…a run of five days off from Britain as you sail westward; and three other islands equally distant from it and from one another lie out from it in the general direction of the summer sunset. In one of these, according to the tale told by the natives, Cronus is confined by Zeus, and the antique Briareus, holding watch and ward over those islands and the sea that they call the Cronian main, has been settled close beside him. The great mainland, by which the great ocean is encircled, while not so far from the other islands, is about five thousand stades from Ogygia, the voyage being made by oar, for the main is slow to traverse and muddy as a result of the multitude of streams. The streams are discharged by the great land-mass and produce alluvial deposits, thus giving density and earthiness to the sea, which has been thought actually to be congealed. On the coast of the mainland Greeks dwell about a gulf which is not smaller than the Maeotis and the mouth of the Caspian sea
triple smegma
so the thing is I am actually Thoth and this is the beginning infant phase of my life. My existence (as well as the universe) is a circular pattern, an exact repeat for infinity. It begins here, this is actually the dawn of time, millions of years ago is actually trillions of years in the future. This is the start of all the mythology. I've already met myself like when you go back in time and see yourself, it nearly broke my mind when he (thoth, me) came to visit. I don't know why I am sharing this, it means nothing to anyone but me, but someone might find it interesting. Also I have no answers to any questions, the future is absolutely obscured to me, I know nothing of what's coming, only of what I will be.
>>38970601>These people consider and call themselves continentals and the inhabitants of this land islanders because the sea flows around it on all sides; and they believe that with the peoples of Cronus there mingled at a later time those who arrived in the train of Heracles and were left behind by him and that these latter so to speak rekindled again to a strong, high flame the Hellenic spark there which was already being quenched and overcome by the tongue, the laws, and the manners of the barbarians. Therefore Heracles has the highest honours and Cronos the second>Now when at intervals of thirty years the star of Cronus, which we call ‘Splendent’ but they, our author said, call ‘Night-watchman,’ enters the sign of the Bull, they, having spent a long time in preparation for the sacrifice and the expedition, choose by lot and send forth a sufficient number of envoys in a correspondingly sufficient number of ships, putting aboard a large retinue and the provisions necessary for men who are going to cross so much sea by oar and live such a long time in a foreign land. Now when they have put to sea the several voyagers meet with various fortunes as one might expect; but those who survive the voyage first put in at the outlying islands, which are inhabited by Greeks, and see the sun pass out of sight for less than an hour over a period of thirty days, — and this is night, though it has a darkness that is slight and twilight glimmering from the west. There they spend ninety days regarded with honour and friendliness as holy men and so addressed, and then winds carry them across to their appointed goal
>>38971094>Nor do any others inhabit it but themselves and those who have been dispatched before them, for, while those who have served the god together for the stint of thirty years are allowed to sail off home, most of them usually choose to settle in the spot, some out of habit and others because without toil or trouble they have all things in abundance while they constantly employ their time in sacrifices and celebrations or with various discourse and philosophy, for the nature of the island is marvellous as is the softness of the circumambient air. Some when they intend to sail away are even hindered by the divinity which presents itself to them as to intimates and friends not in dreams only or by means of omens, but many also come upon the visions and the voices of spirits manifest. For Cronus himself sleeps confined in a deep cave of rock that shines like gold — the sleep that Zeus has contrived like a bond for him —, and birds flying in over the summit of the rock bring ambrosia to him, and all the island is suffused with fragrance scattered from the rock as from a fountain; and those spirits mentioned before tend and serve Cronus, having been his comrades what time he ruled as king over gods and men>Many things they do foretell of themselves, for they are oracular; but the prophecies that are greatest and of the greatest matters they come down and report as dreams of Cronus, for all that Zeus premeditates Cronus sees in his dreams and the titanic affections and motions of his soul make him rigidly tense until sleep restores his repose once more and the royal and divine element is all by itself, pure and unalloyed. Here then the stranger was conveyed, as he said, and while he served the god became at his leisure acquainted with astronomy, in which he made as much progress as one can by practising geometry, and with the rest of philosophy by dealing with so much of it as is possible for the natural philosopher
>>38971149>Since he had a strange desire and longing to observe the Great Island (for so, it seems, they call our part of the world), when the thirty years had elapsed, the relief-party having arrived from home, he saluted his friends and sailed away, lightly equipped for the rest but carrying a large viaticum in golden beakers. Well, all his experiences and all the men whom he visited, encountering sacred writings and being initiated in all rites — to recount all this as he reported it to us, relating it thoroughly and in detail, is not a task for a single day; but listen to so much as is pertinent to the present discussion. He spent a great deal of time in Carthage inasmuch as Cronus receives great honour in our country, and he discovered certain sacred parchments that had been secretly spirited off to safety when the earlier city was being destroyed and had lain unnoticed in the ground for a long time. Among the visible gods he said that one should especially honour the moon, and so he kept exhorting me to do, inasmuch as she is sovereign over life and death, bordering as she does upon the meads of Hades>27 When I expressed surprise at this and asked for a clearer account, he said: ‘Many assertions about the gods, Sulla, are current among the Greeks, but not all tom are right. So, for example, although they give the right names to Demeter and Cora, they are wrong in believing that both are together in the same region. The fact is that the former is in the region of earth and is sovereign over terrestrial things, and the latter is in the moon and mistress of lunar things. She has been called both Cora and Phersephonê, the latter as being a bearer of light and Cora because that is what we call the part of the eye in which is reflected the likeness of him who looks into it as the light of the sun is seen in the moon
>>38971168>The tales told of the wandering and the quest of these goddesses Econtain the truth <spoken covertly>, for they long for each other when they are apart and they often embrace in the shadow. The statement concerning Cora that now she is in the light of heaven and now in darkness and night is not false but has given rise to error in the computation of the time, for not throughout six months but every six months we see her being wrapped in shadow by the earth as it were by her mother, and infrequently we see this happen to her at intervals of five months, for she cannot abandon Hades since she is the boundary of Hades, as Homer too has rather well put it in veiled terms:>But to Elysium’s plain, the bourne of earth>Where the range of the earth’s shadow ends, this he set as the term and boundary of the earth. To this point rises no one who is evil or unclean, but the good are conveyed thither after death and there continue to lead a life most easy to be sure though not blesséd or divine until their second death>28 And what is this, Sulla? Do not ask about these things, for I am going to give a full explanation myself. Most people rightly hold man to be composite but wrongly hold him to be composed of only two parts. The reason is that they suppose mind to be somehow part of soul, thus erring no less than those who believe soul to be part of body, for in the same degree as soul is superior to body so is mind better and more divine than soul. The result of soul and body commingled is the irrational or the affective factor, whereas of mind and soul the conjunction produces reason; and of these the former is source of pleasure and pain, the latter of virtue and vice. In the composition of these three factors earth furnishes the body, the moon the soul, and the sun furnishes mind to man for the purpose of his generation even as it furnishes light to the moon herself
>>38971199>As to the death we die, one death reduces man from three factors to two and another reduces him from two to one; and the former takes place in the earth that belongs to Demeter (wherefore “to make an end” is called “to render one’s life to her” and Athenians used in olden times to call the dead “Demetrians”), the latter in the moon that belongs to Phersephonê, and associated with the former is Hermes the terrestrial, with the latter Hermes the celestial.While the goddess here dissociates the soul from the body swiftly and violently, Phersephonê gently and by slow degrees detaches the mind from the soul and has therefore been called “single-born” because the best part of man is “born single” when separated off by her>Each of the two separations naturally occurs in this fashion: All soul, whether without mind or with it, when it has issued from the body is destined to wander in the region between earth and moon but not for an equal time. Unjust and licentious souls pay penalties for their offences; but the good souls must in the gentlest part of the air, which they call “the meads of Hades,” pass a certain set time sufficient to purge and blow away the pollutions contracted from the body as from an evil odour. Then, as if brought home from banishment abroad, they savour joy most like that of initiates, which attended by glad expectation is mingled with confusion and excitement. For many, even as they are in the act of clinging to the moon, she thrusts off and sweeps away; and some of those souls too that are on the moon they see turning upside down as if sinking again into the deep
>>38971206>Those that have got up, however, and have found a firm footing first go about like victors crowned with wreaths of feathers called wreaths of steadfastness, because in life they had made the irrational or affective element of the soul orderly and tolerably tractable to reason; secondly, in appearance resembling a ray of light but in respect of their nature, which in the upper region is buoyant as it is here in ours, resembling the ether about the moon, they get from it both tension and strength as edged instruments get a temper, for what laxness and diffuseness they still have is strengthened and becomes firm and translucent. In consequence they are nourished by any exhalation that reaches them, and Heraclitus was right in saying: “Souls employ the sense of smell in Hades.”>29 First they behold the moon as she is in herself: her magnitude and beauty and nature, which is not simple and unmixed but a blend as it were of star and earth. Just as the earth has become soft by having been mixed with breath and moisture and as blood gives rise to sense-perception in the flesh with which it is commingled, so the moon, they say, because it has been permeated through and through by ether is at once animated and fertile and at the same time has the proportion of lightness to heaviness in equipoise. In fact it is in this way too, they say, that the universe itself has entirely escaped local motion, because it has been constructed out of the things that naturally move upwards and those that naturally move downwards. This was also the conception of Xenocrates who, taking his start from Plato, seems to have reached it by a kind of superhuman reasoning
>>38971216>Plato is the one who declared that each of the stars as well was constructed of earth and fire bound together in a proportion by means of the two intermediate natures, for nothing, as he said, attains perceptibility that does not contain an admixture of earth and light; but Xenocrates says that the stars and the sun are composed of fire and the first density, the moon of the second density and air that is proper to her, and the earth of water and air and the third kind of density and that in general neither density all by itself nor subtility is receptive of soul. So much for the moon’s substance. As to her breadth or magnitude, it is not what the geometers say but many times greater>She measures off the earth’s shadow with few of her own magnitudes not because it is small but she more ardently hastens her motion in order that she may quickly pass through the gloomy place bearing away the souls of the good which cry out and urge her one because when they are in the shadow they no longer catch the sound of the harmony of heaven. At the same time too with wails and cries the souls of the chastised then approach through the shadow from below. That is why most people have the custom of beating brasses during eclipses and of raising a din and clatter against the souls, which are frightened off also by the so‑called face when they get near it, for it has a grim and horrible aspect. It is no such thing, however; but just as our earth contains gulfs that are deep and extensive, one here pouring in towards us through the Pillars of Heracles and outside the Caspian and the Red Sea with its gulfs, so those features are depths and hollows of the moon
>>38971239>The largest of them is called “Hecatê’s Recess,” where the souls suffer and exact penalties for whatever they have endured or committed after having already become Spirits; and the two long ones are called “the Gates”, for through them pass the souls now to the side of the moon that faces heaven and now back to the side that faces earth. The side of the moon towards heaven is named “Elysian plain,” the hither side “House of counter-terrestrial Phersephonê.”>30 Yet not forever do the Spirits tarry upon the moon; they descend hither to take charge of oracles, they attend and participate in the highest of the mystic rituals, they act as warders against misdeeds and chastisers of them, and they flash forth as saviour a manifest in war and on the sea. For any act that they perform in these matters not fairly but inspired by wrath or for an unjust end or out of envy they are penalized, for they are cast out upon earth again confined in human bodies. To the former class of better Spirits the attendants of Cronos said that they belong themselves as did aforetime the Idaean Dactyls in Crete and the Corybants in Phrygia as well as the Boeotian Trophoniads in Udora and thousands of others in many parts of the world whose rites, honours, and titles persist but whose powers tended to another place as they achieved the ultimate alteration. They achieve it, some sooner and some later, once the mind has been separated from the soul. It is separated by love for the image in the sun through which shines forth manifest the desirable and fair and divine and blessed towards which all nature in one way or another yearns, for it must be out of love for the sun that the moon herself goes her rounds and gets into conjunction with him in her yearning to receive from him what is most fructifying
>>38966158https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eocePd5BPgw
>>38966158Don’t forget Quetzalcoatl >feathered serpent (winged snake staff)>resplendent quetzal hs green head like ibis
>>38966158>>38966552>>38967932https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htixqnIHibQ
>>38971255>The substance of the soul is left upon the moon and retains certain vestiges and dreams of life as it were; it is this that you must properly take to be the subject of the statement>Soul like a dream has taken wing and sped,>for it is not straightway nor once it has been released from the body that it reaches this state but later when, divorced from the mind, it is deserted and alone. Above all else that Homer said his words concerning those in Hades appear to have been divinely inspired>Thereafter marked I mighty Heracles — His shade; but he is with the deathless god...>In fact the self of each of us is not anger or fear or desire just as it is not bits of flesh or fluids either but is that which we reason and understand; and the soul receives the impression of its shape through being moulded by the mind and moulding in turn and enfolding the body on all sides, so that, even if it be separated from either one for a long time, since it preserves the likeness and the imprint it is correctly called an image. Of these, as has been said, the moon is the element, for they are resolved into it as the bodies of the dead are resolved into earth. This happens quickly to the temperate souls who had been fond of a leisurely, unmeddlesome, and philosophical life, for abandoned by the mind and no longer exercising the passions for anything they quickly wither away. Of the ambitious and the active, the irascible and those who are enamoured of the body, however, some pass their time as it were in sleep with the memories of their lives for dreams as did the soul of Endymion; but, when they are excited by restlessness and emotion and drawn away from the moon to another birth, she forbids them <to sink towards earth> and keeps conjuring them back and binding them with charms, for it is no slight, quiet, or harmonious business when with the affective faculty apart from reason they seize upon a body
>>38971343>Creatures like Tityus and Typho and the Python that with insolence and violence occupied Delphi and confounded the oracle belonged to this class of souls, void of reason and subject to the affective element gone astray through delusion; but even these in time the moon took back to herself and reduced to order. Then when the sun with his vital force has again sowed mind in her she receives it and produces new souls, and earth in the third place furnishes body. In fact, the earth gives nothing in giving back after death all that she takes for generation, and the sun takes nothing but takes back the mind that he gives, whereas the moon both takes and gives and joins together and divides asunder in virtue of her different powers, of which the one that joins together is called Ilithyia and that which divides asunder Artemis. Of the three Fates too Atropos enthroned in the sun initiates generation, Clotho in motion on the moon mingles and binds together, and finally upon the earth Lachesis too puts her hand to the task, she who has the largest share in chance. For the inanimate is itself powerless and susceptible to alien agents, and the mind is impassable and sovereign; but the soul is a mixed and intermediate thing, even as the moon has been created by god a compound and blend of the things above and below and therefore stands to the sun in the relation of earth to moon.’>This,” said Sulla, “I heard the stranger relate; and he had the account, as he said himself, from the chamberlains and servitors of Cronus. You and your companions, Lamprias, may make what you will of the tale.”
>>38970510>>38970601>>38971349https://www.theguardian.com/science/2021/aug/01/doggerland-lost-atlantis-of-the-north-sea-gives-up-its-ancient-secrets>The land mass that linked Britain to continental Europe was rich in early human life until it flooded>The idea of a “lost Atlantis” under the North Sea connecting Britain by land to continental Europe had been imagined by HG Wells in the late 19th century, with evidence of human inhabitation of the forgotten world following in 1931 when the trawler Colinda dredged up a lump of peat containing a spear point>But it is only now, after a decade of pioneering research and the extraordinary finds of an army of amateur archaeologists scouring the Dutch coastline for artefacts and fossils, that a major exhibition is able to offer a window into Doggerland, a vast expanse of territory submerged following a tsunami 8,000 years ago, cutting the British Isles off from modern Belgium, the Netherlands and southern Scandinavia>The exhibition, Doggerland: Lost World in the North Sea, at the Rijksmuseum van Oudheden (National Museum of Antiquities) in Leiden, southern Holland, includes more than 200 objects, ranging from a deer bone in which an arrowhead is embedded, and fossils such as petrified hyena droppings and mammoth molars, to a fragment of a skull of a young male Neanderthal. Studies of the forehead bone, dredged up in 2001 off the coast of Zeeland, suggests he was a big meat eater. A small cavity behind the brow bone is believed to be a scar from a harmless subcutaneous tumour that would have been visible as a lump above his eye>But while the last decade has seen a growing number of expensive scientific studies, including a recent survey of the drowned landscape by the universities of Bradford and Ghent offering further clues to the cause of its destruction
>>38971381>It is the work of “citizen scientists” that has produced some of the most exciting artefacts, allowing a full story now to be told, according to Dr Sasja van der Vaart-Verschoof, assistant curator of the museum’s prehistory department>Manmade beaches constructed from material dredged from the sea as part of efforts to protect the modern coastline from the impact of the climate crisis have provided a trove of once-inaccessible treasures from a world inhabited for a million years by modern humans, Neanderthals and even older hominids known has Homo antecessor>“We have a wonderful community of amateur archaeologists who almost daily walk these beaches and look for the fossils and artefacts, and we work with them to analyse and study them,” said Van der Vaart-Verschoof. “It is open to everyone, and anyone could find a hand axe, for example. Pretty much the entire toolkit that would have been used has been found by amateur archaeologists.”>One such find is a 50,000-year-old flint tool that has a handle made from birch tarpitch. Discovered in 2016 by Willy van Wingerden, a nurse, it has helped update the understanding of Neanderthals – once thought to be brutish and simplistic – as capable of precise and complex multi-staged tasks. A drawing in the exhibition imagines this sharp tool was used as a razor by one to shave another’s head>Other finds include human skull fragments with cut marks possibly caused by defleshing, believed to have been part of the burial ritual, and remains such as a hyena’s jaw that simply washed up in front of Van Wingerden during a stroll on a beach near Rotterdam six years ago. The wide open grassy plains of Doggerland were the ideal grazing ground for large herds of animals such as reindeer who were prey for the cave lions, sabre-toothed cats, cave hyenas and wolves, among others
>>38971419>Doggerland – named by University of Exeter archaeologist Bryony Coles in the 1990s after the Dogger Bank, a stretch of seabed in the North Sea in turn named after the 17th century “Dogger” fishing boats that sailed there – is believed to have been subsumed about 8,200 years ago following a massive tsunami>Sea levels during the last ice age were much lower than today but a catastrophic wave was generated by a sub-sea landslide off the coast of Norway>“There was a period when Doggerland was dry and incredibly rich, a wonderful place for hunter gatherers,” said Van der Vaart-Verschoof. “It was not some edge of the earth, or land bridge to the UK. It was really the heart of Europe. There are lessons to be learned. The story of Doggerland shows how destructive climate change can be. The climate change we see today is manmade but the effects could be just as devastating as the changes seen all those years ago.”According to Theosophy: >"At the foundation of this new religion was an ancient occult legend that tells the story of a continent somewhere in the north Atlantic. There lived a race of super-beings who'd fallen from grace through evil and vice. A great flood wiped these beings off the face of the earth, but before they could all be destroyed, certain priests escaped by boat eventually finding their way to India and the high peaks of Tibet. These escaped priests, believed by mystics to be the original race of Aryan god-men, were said to be the ancestors of all Indian and European people. The land was called Atlantis."Not only is possible to move from Doggerland to the Tibet by boat but also the journey also matches sea currents (pic related) and receding glaciers.>mfw Northern India was the only place they could have reached if escaping harsh conditions>mfw some Neanderthals turned out to be cannibals and could have been left behind in the Middle East about 6000BC... right before the Egyptian civilization flourished
>>38969964>>38971381>>38971419>>38971533>The great flood = the Holocene meltwater pulsesYes, the Younger Dryas.>The Atlantaeans = Western Hunter Gatherers who were descended from the GravettiansNeanderthals didn't coexist with Gravettians, but rather their mixed-race descendants with Homo Sapiens who were probably the ones who founded Atlantis. Atlantas is associated with Northwest Africa (there are even mountains there named after him, where Egypt, which taught the Greece about Atlantis, is located in the Far East). I think you mentioned the Gravettians because the Iberomaurisians, ancestors of Modern North Africans (Berbers) got their technology from them.West Eurasians mixed with Basal Eurasians to create Dzudzuana and Anatolians and with East Asians to create Ancient North Eurasians. After that Dzudzuana and Ancient North Eurasians mixed with Basal Eurasians again to create Caucasus Hunter-Gatherer and Iran Neolithic. Meanwhile in North Africa Aterians mixed with Dzudzuana/Anatolians and Aurignacians to create Iberomaurusians. These Iberomaurusians mixed with Anatolians again to create Natufians.Near Easterners and North Africans are mixtures of these Iberomaurusians, Anatolians, Natufians, Caucasus Hunter-Gatherers and Zagrosian farmers. On top of that Berbers and Levantines have some Steppe ancestry through mixing with Europeans further, and North Africans have West African ancestry. Egyptians especially have some East African ancestry. East Africans are more related to Eurasians than either are to West Africans. And both are more related to Eurasians and each other than they are to Pygmies or Khoisan.The European groups with the highest Neanderthal admixture are those who also have the highest Early European Farmers (EEF) DNA, such as the Iberians, especially the Basques and Sardinians.
>>38969964>>38971381>>38971419>>38971533iberomaurusians/taforalt were half african, they were mulattos according to actual studies
>>38971755Basques have high concentrations of R1b Y-DNA, RH- blood, Neanderthal DNA and they have non-Indo-European language. They are a mix of remnants of indigenous European hunter-gatherer populations and invading Neanderthal-like from Atlantis, who managed to keep their matriarchal (Neanderthal) culture, native language and traditions. Basques were famous for their sea-faring abilities after they mixed with Neanderthal from Atlantis and when Roman armies went to their lands to conquer them, they were able to fight Romans off. Basques are very different than the rest of people living in Europe, the closest to Basques are Cagots, who show very Neanderthal-like features/qualities.Neanderthals were the first boat builders and navigators on the Sea, like the Dioscuri/Cabeiri/Corybantes/Samothracians, the sons of Hephaestus.>>38971264There is a reason why in Americas some natives named things after Atlantis. Mayan texts Popol Vuh claims that ancestors sailed through "Eastern Ocean" (Indian Ocean, Native Americans are of Eurasian origin who crossed the Bering Strait, it is no wonder that their mestizos like me >>38966165 are called Mamelucos/Mamluks in Brazil, who were Turks elite slave mercenaries in Egypt, Turks are another people of Eurasian origin who went to the Middle East/Europe together with Genghis Khan) to settle in Americas. Also, "Alt" means "Water" in nahuatl, is a sacred day for purification and the 9th day in the Aztec tonalpohualli, the divinatory calendar. Is governed by the Fire/Time God Xiuhtecuhtli (also known as Huehueteotl, HUE!), which is the Aztec Hephaestus/Cronos. Alt is called Muluk in Mayan, which sounds like Molok (Moloch).
>>38971932>AfarCushites/Hamites are not Negroes, retarded shitalian. What is your obsession with associating Iberomaurusians with Modern Mulattoes (who are descendants of West Africans/Bantus, not Hamites)? Is it because Ethiopia defeated Italy or did some nafri hurt you?>The Afar (Afar: Qafár), also known as the Danakil, Adali and Odali, are a Cushitic ethnic group inhabiting the Horn of Africa. They primarily live in the Afar Region of Ethiopia and in northern Djibouti, as well as the entire southern coast of Eritrea. The Afar speak the Afar language, which is part of the Cushitic branch of the Afroasiatic family. Afars are the only inhabitants of the Horn of Africa whose traditional territories border both the Red Sea and the Gulf of Aden>Hamites is the name formerly used for some Northern and Horn of Africa peoples. Beginning in the late 19th century, scholars generally classified the Hamitic race as a subgroup of the Caucasian race, alongside the Aryan race and the Semitic – thus grouping the non-Semitic populations native to North Africa and the Horn of Africa, including the Ancient Egyptians. According to the Hamitic theory, this "Hamitic race" was superior to or more advanced than the "Negroid" populations of Sub-Saharan Africa. In its most extreme form, in the writings of C. G. Seligman, this theory asserted that virtually all significant achievements in African history were the work of "Hamites"
>>38972093>Cushites/Hamites are not Negroesthey're mulattos, just like the iberomaurusians>retarded shitalian.i'm not italian, italians are middle easterners>What is your obsession with associating Iberomaurusians with Modern Mulattoesi'm not doing that, i didn't mention the afar at all, afar and iberomaurusians are both mulattos, but different kinds of mulattos> Is it because Ethiopia defeated Italy or did some nafri hurt you?i couldn't care less about the history of shitaly, and i don't care about horner mulattos eitheryour quotes are irrelevant memes, iberomaurusians were half african >>38971932
>>38971932it really seems to be the case, the taforalt had substantial amounts of african ancestry
>>38971932>>38972210so the iberomaurusians were just 40% african people?
>>38972229Pretty much yes
>>38972229>so the iberomaurusians were just 40% african people?yeah
>>38972193>>38972210>>38972229>>38972236>>38972237Sameshitalian.
>>38972262? i'm not italian, are you somalian? why are you so pressed over taforalt being mulattos?
>>38972262Cope, italians are middle easterners, I'm European, afar are mulattos and so are iberomaurusians, see they score pink and brown >>38971932But they're different types of mulattos, in that kind of global pca they look closer due to having similar Eurasian/African affinities
>>38972210>taforalt>46% non-african related, meaning the rest is africanthis seals the deal
Hey, the effortposter is back!
Tldr please
>>38966158in the hermes teismegistus lore, the Atlanteans are from a prior cycle of creation tho
>>38972007>Also, "Alt" means "Water" in nahuatl, is a sacred day for purification and the 9th day in the Aztec tonalpohualli, the divinatory calendar. Is governed by the Fire/Time God Xiuhtecuhtli (also known as Huehueteotl, HUE!), which is the Aztec Hephaestus/Cronos. Alt is called Muluk in Mayan, which sounds like Molok (Moloch)Xiuhtecuhtli is associated with the god Tezcatlipoca, whose name means “Smoking Mirror” and was the Aztec god of night and sorcery, as well as the patron deity of Aztec Nobility and Jaguar Warriors. Like Saturn, Tezcatlipoca was associated with the black color (he is the Black Sun, the First Sun), deficient/sick people, a race of titans/giants and was dethroned by a god associated with the morning star (Venus).>The frontispiece of the Codex Fejéváry-Mayer, one of the more well-known images from Aztec codices, features a god circumscribed in the 20 trecena, or day symbols, of the Tōnalpōhualli. The exact identity of this god is unclear, but is most likely either Tezcatlipoca or Xiuhtecutli. The figure has yellow and black face paint, as is characteristic of Tezcatlipoca. But as Olivier points out, "gods like Xiuhtecutli or Huitzilopoctli have similar facial painting." The figure is also shown with two unaltered feet, but does possess the white sandals, armbands, and adorned ears and head of Tezcatlipoca. He also carries arrows and a spear, the typical weapons of the war god. Finally, perhaps coincidentally, the figure is bounded on the left side by the symbols for acatl (reed) and tecpatl (flint knife), both of which are associated with Tezcatlipoca>Depicting either Tezcatlipoca and Xiuhtecutli surrounded by calendrical symbols is equally logical in both cases, as Tezcatlipoca is represented in other codices in association with the calendar, and Xiuhtecutli was a god of the sun and passage of time. The page also features the ollin symbol, a trecena that additionally represented eras of time, including the five suns
>>38977735>These mythological eras were begun by Tezcatlipoca, but Aztec festivals which celebrated the completion of eras involved worship of Xiuhtecutli. The codex features additional, more standardized depictions of both deities in its later pages>According to the legend, from the void that was the rest of the universe, the first god, Ometeotl, created itself. The nature of Ometeotl, the "God of duality" was both male and female, shared by Ometecuhtli, "Lord of duality," and Omecihuatl, "Lady of duality". Ometeotl gave birth to four children, the four Tezcatlipocas, who each preside over one of the four cardinal directions. Over the West presides the White Tezcatlipoca, Quetzalcoatl, the god of light, mercy and wind. Over the South presides the Blue Tezcatlipoca, Huitzilopochtli, the god of war. Over the East presides the Red Tezcatlipoca, Xipe Totec, the god of gold, farming and spring time. And over the North presides the Black Tezcatlipoca, also called simply Tezcatlipoca, the god of judgment, night, deceit, sorcery and the Earth>The Aztecs believed that the gods created the universe at Teotihuacan. The name Teōtīhuacān was given by the Nahuatl-speaking Aztecs centuries after the fall of the city around 550 CE. The term has been glossed as "birthplace of the gods", or "place where gods were born", reflecting Nahua creation myths that were said to occur in Teotihuacan>The Aztecs believed that the gods created the universe at Teotihuacan. The name Teōtīhuacān was given by the Nahuatl-speaking Aztecs centuries after the fall of the city around 550 CE. The term has been glossed as "birthplace of the gods", or "place where gods were born", reflecting Nahua creation myths that were said to occur in Teotihuacan
>>38977832>First sun (Black Tezcatlipoca)>It was four gods who eventually created all the other gods and the world we know today, but before they could create they had to destroy, for every time they attempted to create something, it would fall into the water beneath them and be eaten by Cipactli, the giant earth crocodile, who swam through the water with mouths at every one of her joints. From the four Tezcatlipocas descended the first people who were giants>They created the other gods, the most important of whom were the water gods: Tlaloc, the god of rain and fertility and Chalchiuhtlicue, the goddess of lakes, rivers and oceans and also the goddess of beauty. To give light, they needed a god to become the sun and the Black Tezcatlipoca was chosen, but either because he had lost a leg or because he was god of the night, he only managed to become half a sun. The world continued on in this way for some time, but a sibling rivalry grew between Quetzalcoatl and his brother the mighty sun, who Quetzalcoatl knocked from the sky with a stone club. With no sun, the world was totally black and in his anger, Tezcatlipoca commanded his jaguars to eat all the people
>>38977851>Second sun (White Tezcatlipoca: Quetzalcoatl)>The gods created humans who were of normal stature, with Quetzalcoatl serving as the sun for the new civilization, as an attempt to bring balance to the world, but their attempts ultimately failed as humans began to drift away from the beliefs and teachings of the gods and instead embraced greed and corruption>As a consequence, Tezcatlipoca showcased his dominance and strength as a god of magic and justice by transforming the human-like people into monkeys. Quetzalcoatl, who had held the flawed people in great regard, was greatly distressed and sent away the monkeys with a powerful hurricane. After they were banished, Quetzalcoatl stepped down from his role as the sun and crafted a new, more perfect race of humans>Third sun (Blue Tezcatlipoca: Huitzilopochtli/Tlaloc)>Tlaloc was crowned the new sun, but Tezcatlipoca, the mischievous god, tricked and deceived him, snatching away the love of his life, Xochiquetzal, the deity of beauty, flowers, and corn>Tlaloc had become so consumed by his own grief and sorrow that he was no longer able to fulfil his duties as the sun; therefore, a great drought befell the people of the world. People desperately prayed for rain and begged for mercy, but their pleas fell on deaf ears>In a fit of rage, Tlaloc unleashed a rain of fire upon the earth, completely destroying it and leaving nothing but ashes in its wake. Following this cataclysmic event, the gods then worked together to create a new earth, allowing life to be reborn from the seemingly lifeless and barren land
>>38978052>Fourth sun (Red Tezcatlipoca: Xipe Totec)>The fourth age came to a violent end when the wife of Tlaloc, Chalchiuhtlicue, cried tears of blood for 52 years. In the midst of this destruction, Chalchiuhtlicue inadvertently destroyed the heavens. In the aftermath, Tezcatlipoca put the Sun back up. Not content to simply recreate the skies as they had been before, Tezcatlipoca created the Milky Way, which he then turned into the god Mixcoatl (Xipe Totec) >Fifth sun>Quetzalcoatl would not accept the destruction of his people and went to the underworld where he stole their bones from the god Mictlantecuhtli. He dipped these bones in his own blood to resurrect his people, who reopened their eyes to a sky illuminated by the current sun, Huitzilopochtli>The Centzonhuītznāhua, or the stars of the south, became jealous of their brighter, more important brother Huitzilopochtli. Their leader, Coyolxauhqui, goddess of the moon, lead them in an assault on the sun and every night they come close to victory when they shine throughout the sky, but are beaten back by the mighty Huitzilopochtli who rules the daytime sky. To aid this all-important god in his continuing war, the Aztecs offer him the nourishment of human sacrifices. They also offer human sacrifices to Tezcatlipoca in fear of his judgment, offer their own blood to Quetzalcoatl, who opposes fatal sacrifices, in thanks of his blood sacrifice for them and give offerings to many other gods for many purposes. Should these sacrifices cease, or should mankind fail to please the gods for any other reason, this fifth sun will go black, the world will be shattered by a catastrophic earthquake, and the Tzitzimitl will slay Huitzilopochtli and all of humanity
>>38971755>Atlas is associated with Northwest AfricaFix'd.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlas_(mythology)#King_of_Mauretania>>38972007>"Eastern Ocean" (Pacific Ocean, Native Americans are of Eurasian origin who crossed the Bering StraitFix'd.>>38977735>>38977832>>38977851>>38978052>>38978065>The Quinametzin ("titans/giants") lived during the First Sun, the Black Sun, identified as Tezcatlipoca... On the other hand, for the author of the Codex Vaticanus-Latinus 3738... and according to Muñoz Camargo... who both place the giants during the First Sun, this was a Jaguar Sun. Motolinía... Alva Ixtlilxóchitl... and the author of the Anales de Cuauhtitlan... all consider that the era of the giants was the second one, called Wind Sun... Finally, according to André Thévet... and another version recovered by Alva Ixtlilxóchitl... the era of the giants was the third one... Excepting the latter name (Rain Sun), the eras associated with the giants refer to heavy elements, water or earth... The ways in which the giants are destroyed also vary according to the sources: they are devoured by jaguars... crushed under the collapse of the heavenly vault... die during an earthquake... drown in a flood... or die as a consequence of a hurricane>Alva Ixtlilxóchitl is the only author to mention as a cause for their destruction ‘several serious sins that have committed’ - without elaborating. Fortunately details are available in other texts, which place the giants in a ‘historical’ context. They are considered the oldest inhabitants of the earth, and the discovery of gigantic bones constitutes, for the Indians as for the Spaniards, proof of their past existence. The extreme antiquity of these remains grants them the status of ancestors. We should remember that, to create present mankind, Ehecatl [God of Wind] took the bones of giants kept in Mictlan. Today’s human beings owe their reduced size to the fact that Ehecatl fell and broke the giants’ bones...
>>38978149>Saturn is not merely an Indo-European figure, or even an Indo-Semitic figure. The Saturnine deity appears in the mythologies and religious systems of other ancient cultures. The Aztecs, for example, revered Him as Tezcatlipoca, the Black Sun, a generally malevolent deity, hobbled by virtue of a missing foot which was sometimes replaced by a black mirror or serpent. Tezcatlipoca, like Sani and Saturn, was for some time considered a major god of the Aztec empire, though. His reign was challenged by his brother (rather than son). The worship of Tezcatlipoca demanded daily human sacrifice, for which the Aztec empire remains infamous today. He is a paradoxical figure who is both solar and chthonic in the same moment, much like Lord Sani. Curiously, He wears bells arrayed like chains. (The Cult of the Black Cube by Arthur Moros, Page 95)>In ancient Rome, the entire statue of Saturn was made out of wood. Other than being veiled and carrying the scythe, it was filled with oil and its feet bound with wool, and it wore a red cloak. These symblolized his castration, may have had other deeper meanings. In medieval prints, Saturn was shown as a cripple leaning on a crutch or a man with a wooden leg to symbolize his castration. Medieval astrology also connected the planet Saturn with cripples, the dead and old men. Saturn was also connected to sadness, and in ‘medical astrology’, one of the many pseudosciences of the medieval era, Saturn was considered bad for the bones
>>38980302>The Codex Magliabechiano contains a passage relating Tezcatlipoca with the temascal, or sweatbath. The text states, "when any sick person went to the bath house, [they] offered incense, which they call copal, to the idol and covered the body in black in veneration of the idol they call Tezcatepocatl [Tezcatlipoca], who is one of their major gods." Despite these references, Mary Miller states that the deity actually depicted in codex illustrations and the one more likely to be associated with the temascal is TlazoteotlSaturn has always been and always will be the representation of death, suffering and limitations. But the Sun and Saturn do have similar meanings. Both are regents and governors. The sun is a king and Saturn is a tyrant. The Moon, the feminine part of the Sun, represents the lower classes of the population, the commoners and peasants. Saturn represents the excluded and unfortunate.
>>38967932Don't forget he's also Quetzalcoatl/Viracocha, Yima, Gesar, Taut, Padmasambhava and so on. I actually think they were all in some way related. I think the Si-Te-Cah and the giants of the Keweenaw Peninsula are evidence of similar peoples (in physique) being in North America a very long time ago. I think we have a vague confirmation of this general idea to some extent in the evidence that some Pharaohs had red hair still attached to their mummies which contained traces of cocaine, opium, tobacco and cannabis.>PhoenicianYeah, the guys that painted dragons on their ships.
>>38970173Kemet means the exact same thing that Terra Preta does just so we all know.>Cronus is believed interred in a cavern in the earth.Sort of like New Grange, right?>30 years in service - the same period Caesar quoted for the druids.The Druids? Interesting.What do you make of the Ptolemaic Dynasty overlapping with the Druids?Who were the Milesians?Who were the Siol Alpin?
>>38973420>>38975338It's an LLM.
