How can anyone look at the world and the human condition and NOT come to the conclusion that the creator is some kind of deranged sadistic asshole?
>>39107843He wouldn't exist without creation. Our birth was his birth too. Our individual existence is incidental and temporary.
>>39107843I don't think he's omniscient. He's infinitely powerful but omniscience is nonsense. If he knows what choice you'll take then you have no free will. All your choices have already been made for you.So the most likely explanation is that he just forgot about us. He moved onto new creations and we've been discarded. Maybe he'll be back one day but until then we've just got to work with what we've been left with. So we should look to conquer the stars rather than worship someone who's not listening anymore.
>>39107843go outside and look all that blue and green matter, okay?
>>39108170I can't enjoy that anymore because I have chronic pain and sickness
the most common explanation I hear is one that hasn't been mentioned. this world is a test, it's not meant to be paradise. paradise comes next, depending on how you score.
>>39108671Y tho
>>39108104you dropped this, good sir. please take your hat back alongside this complimentary upvote.
>>39108730Why what?
>>39107843Imagine a master marble sculpterImagine the wonders he could carve from a perfect block of marble.NowImagine he carves on a block that isnt perfect While the statue he creates is beautiful, it has its imperfections, not because of the sculpters talent but because of the nature of the medium.While you can imagine your perfect home, when it comes to reality your vision will never come to fruition
>>39108770A perfect god won't make an imperfect creationYou just admitted he has limitations ergo he is not god
>>39108749>not an argumentfree will is not compatible with an omnipotent god lol>god creates his enemy and sin>gets angry at his work
God loves the strong. God loves warriors willing to stand for what is right. God wishes for his creation to participate in the everlasting act of being and becoming.
>>39108789Who said anything about god? We are talking about a creator. A creator whos oerfect creation is limited by imperfect medium in which it creates.
> God creates man in his image> Man having infinite power and free will chooses to create lack> Blames God> ???> profit
>>39108880>omniscient god negates free will>god gets angry and punishes the creation doing what he made it to dotry again
>>39107843Just raise your vibrations and stop worrying about Christians. 99% of religions on this planet are wrong except Buddhism. This planet is under the control of the low vibrationals.
>>39108170Death, rotten corpses, open vaginas, screams of rape and murder and cannibalism, mud and rocks
Life is a lesson, except the class clowns keep fucking with you nonstop to the point where you forget what you're doing anymore
>>39107843We can't fanthom how light really works, all we have are hypothesis on some of it's behaviour, some suggests waves and other photons, because in reality light is something else entirely that we don't understand. Now imagine this applied not to an element of the universe we live in, but to it's ultimate creator and ruler. Faithfull people have faith in his existence and kindness, and many theoried on what he likes/dislikes, but in truth God is far greater than any human mind can comprehend, and could very well be such that the basic axioms of our logic (such as the modus ponen: ( (a implies b) and a) implies b) might not applies, and therefore attempts to applicate our thought in a purely rational way can lead to absurd results.It's similar to Solaris, if you have read it.
>>39108104>If he knows what choice you'll take then you have no free willGod created space and time and exists outside of past, future, and presence.Even though God knows everything that has happened and will happen, this knowledge does not compel or necessitate any particular action or choice by individuals. God's knowledge is not a force that overrides human free will but rather an awareness that encompasses all possibilities.He remains fully aware of all actions and choices, even as He allows creatures the space to exercise their free will.Basically God exists on a superior divine level outside of linear time and sees all all possibilities and outcomes simultaneously.
>>39110370copehe had full knowledge before creating you lol
>>39110386?
>>39107843t. didnt read jobt. doesnt understand that they cannot understand Godt. amoeba trying to discern the actions of mant. retarded
>>39110409But isn't Job an older pagan poem?
>>39107843Look at our species - you trying to tell me we don't collectively deserve the abuse?We're nothing but a virus with shoes.
>>39110409Job sucks, but it’s accurate. God destroys a man’s entire life and all he holds dear to win a bet with Satan, and lost anyway.
>>39107843Because their world runs on money, and you cannot serve both God and Mammon.
>>39107843>not all people live in a permanent state of blissful, pain-free euphoria>therefore God is stupid, incompetent, and/or evilThis kinda pseudointellectual "gotcha!" bullshit used to make the rounds on r/atheism every week but now, 10 years later, it's a staple of /his/.
>>39107843because there is beauty and there is good. All suffering is inflicted by one man on another.
>he doesn't care
