Samsara is the cycle of death and rebirth, and more broadly, material existence.All there is is unmanifest existence (Nirvana/Tao/Pleroma/Source) and manifest existence.These have the characteristics of unity and separation respectively. Questions:>does the Demiurge suffer? (or suffer anywhere near as much as those within its Matrix?>Is it possible for only Nirvana to exist - so there's only potential, but no manifestation of potential?>Or do all possibilities exist simultaneously unmanifest (in equanimous Source) and manifest (due to craving in every direction?I'm leaning towards no, nirvana never exists alone, samsara always exists (even if a particular matrices rise and fall) because nirvana and samsara are so interlinked.in the archives it says:>Moksha is untenable. The soul acts. Even if after countless universes manifest and unmanifest, the soul will act again, and without knowledge of action in divine consciousness, it will become ensnared again in material actions. so basically if you achieve moksha, inevitably some movement in/from Nirvana will manifest separation again and thus samsara occurs all over again.So why escape samsara if you will end up back here?>Where is the best place in the Universe to be?In nirvana? A demiurge running a separation/torture matrix? Some meatpuppet in a matrix? a deva in a heavenly, albeit still not fully unified, world?
>does the Demiurge suffer? No, never.As for the rest, it can be explained in this video:https://youtu.be/lWqJTKdznaM?si=_4kq-hw6gX_mz_Wb
>>39113613>no, neverI'm assuming this is because all is balanced, so our suffering is balanced by the Demiurge's joy..>vidwhat I’m getting from this is that it’s all cyclical, that you will be in and out of samsara (not just particular lives, but samsara as a whole) forever and had best just accept the beauty of it.Ofc the demon is the demiurge, sphere is the matrix being created and destroyed. there are good times/positions (summer) and bad (winter) and you experience them all.Also a theme of always wanting to experience samsara again and again "always wanna make believe"
>>39113549Want to escape samsara? Begome Alawite!
>>39113549The universe and everything in it might actually be evolving, or have the potential to evolve; or, put more fully and accurately, have to potential to evolve or devolve (since one almost necessarily implies the other). The third potential is neutral, to remain in stasis, neither evolve nor devolve.Now, very interestingly, you have here in plain modern English a summary of what the Trimurti of Hinduism is an allegory or symbol for. “Trimurti” literally means “three faces or icons (viz. of God or a divinity)”, regarded as three gods who make up the supreme reality of Brahman: Brahma (the creating god), Vishnu (the preserving god), and Shiva (the restoring god).If the universe or consciousness itself that arises within this universe can itself evolve (as well as potentially being able to undergo the other two of this triad, devolving or preserving itself), than some of the big mysteries and issues of trying to grasp some ancient religious traditions, besides trying to oneself grasp the vast cosmic questions they asked and the answers they offered, could be ameliorated a bit. The purpose of the universe, and the consciousness that has arisen within it, might itself be to endlessly evolve and develop, tempered and modulated by the play of these other two forces for a higher cosmic balance and harmony (having the potential also to devolve or be destroyed, or remain in stasis, whether the entire universe itself or some cross-section of it like a galaxy cluster, a galaxy, a solar system, a planet, a race, or an individual).The creation of the universe itself and the development of all its galaxies, stars, planets, satellites, living organisms in or on any of them, and so forth, could be taken as the involutionary descent of this transcendental source or Infinite Being into matter, to slowly rise itself back up out of it. Done simply for the purpose of cosmic joy, similarly to how we love the moment of orgasm, but have no “rational reason” for that.
>>39113762>always wanna make believe
>>39113935essentially you're implying Source always wants to manifest, so manifest existence will always exist.>>39113809yes, but I'm not alawiteSome more thoughts: firstly if you want separation (and thus any manifestation from nirvana) you need a Demiurge to enforce it, even though they get shockingly addicted to their role and have no chill, making absolute hell/clown worlds.from the archives: (I'm very grateful to the anon that wrote this)>The Demiurge serves God by introducing constraint, limitation, and separation (in short: Evil). These are the adverse processes by which souls are individuated and given character, before being re-perfected in their articulated form by the Logos.So Source is addicted to the Demiurge, separation, samsara game, which inherently involves a large amount of psychopathy and suffering. Although how can you blame Source for that when it's the only game there is? like being locked in a dark room for life with only one video game for a console - of course you're gonna play it over and over.movement without motion...
How do I escspe this? Guys if we dont escape now, next reincarnations are gonna suck, since humanity will be enslaved soon, and there will be no way to educate ourselvses on how to escaoe samsara. This is our last chance boys.
>>39114200>So Source is addicted to the Demiurgereally? come on An essence that you call a soul is indestructible, unmovable, does not feel hunger or pain, it is fully aware and in communication with all that exists should it desire so, it can be, see or do anything without any effort, thus it is completely unable to experience anything.In order for something so unmovable to learn it must willingly limit itself via biology and physical conditions, otherwise what you have is an immortal child who sees reality but does not comprehend it due to not being influenced by it in any way....
>>39113549The point isn't to destroy Samsara, it's to not be trapped in it and as a result suffer unfulfilled desires.One who can consciously experience the dhamma of Nibbana is not trapped, disoriented and lost in Samsara. Only a person with Right View, who is at least a Stream Enterer, the first of the Four Noble Disciples of the Tathagata, can do this at will.>>39114227https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGXX9mxnt8M
>>39113549>All there is is unmanifest existence (Nirvana/Tao/Pleroma/Source) and manifest existence.While true, manifest includes the temporary and eternal.The temporal manifestations only make up about 1/4 of the infinity that is manifestation.
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can I get some answers on this:"will samsara always exist?"it's possible to escape samsara, then eventually return (see OP moksha is untenable).But is it possible for samsara to be permanently deleted?
>>39115796> manifest includes the temporary and eternal.surely everything manifest (i.e. everything that isn't nirvana, but a deviation from it) is temporary?you're saying this because you think souls are eternal but still manifest (not God) aren't you?but every drop will return to the ocean eventually.and souls being indestructible/eternal contradicts anatta of buddhism: >In Buddhism, the term anattā (Pali: 𑀅𑀦𑀢𑁆𑀢𑀸) or anātman (Sanskrit: अनात्मन्) is the doctrine of "no-self" – that no unchanging, permanent self or essence can be found in any phenomenon.so the Soul isn't permanent
>>39113549Samsara ending because silly goose gobbled evil, join the celestial silly sausages! Blue eisenhower november ;3
How do you fight the demiurge and archons?I'm think they're messing with my life and I want them to fuck off
>>39113613>does the Demiurge suffer?>No, never.how do you know?
>>39117138> But is it possible for samsara to be permanently deleted?I hope so or else everything is pointless and all is lost
>>39117160>surely everything manifest (i.e. everything that isn't nirvana, but a deviation from it) is temporaryNo, but there is no possibility of attaining this through introspection. Neti Neti at best gets you Nirvana.>you think souls are eternal but still manifest (not God)No. Souls are never created, and there is no separation as you suggest. There is distinction.>every drop will return to the ocean eventuallyAnd you think the drop becomes umanifest.But you are not a drop. Don't think of yourself as so great.You are a molecule of water.And you remain such as you enter the ocean.>contradicts anatta of buddhismBecause Buddhism is incomplete, they can only get to Nirvana with their process.>so the Soul isn't permanentYou can remove yourself from the -1 of samsara to the 0 of Nirvana.It will take you likely many returns to samsara before you get beyond to the +1 of eternally manifest.
