A name can shape a person and affect their behavior, shape one's own fate, and who they eventually become.Note: This is not universally applicable, but in the overwhelming majority, atleast in my experience, I have found that names can produce a very noticable stereotyping of people. i.e. chad/stacyNames serve as a sort of sub-Archetype, and the person will subconsciously compare themselves to other people with that same name, and often become like them to some extent. They set a bar for themselves, unconsciously of course, and end up sharing traits of other people with that name.But whats even more interesting, is when they dont. i.e. the person has never known of anyone else by that name, and then later on find another with the same name and find there are similarities. this suggests that the name itself has a sort of power over development. I believe that during the formative years the sound projects a sort of component that inclines that person to developing certain behaviors. This same is true for small children especially, but is common in canines and other animals also, who respond favorably to higher pitched tones. The ear of the mother has also evolved to *listen* for higher tones to listen for a crying child. While higher tones generally are received positively, lower tones are generally negative. Which is when, when training a puppy, it is recommended to speak normally normally, in a higher tone when the child/puppy does something good, and in a lower tone to indicate to them its something bad. During the formative years this is a conscious process, and I suspect it lingers in the unconscious after the formative years to some degree. While that *may* be a factor, i suspect there is also some underlying mechanism to the sound of a word itself, i.e. And while words and names might have a certain tonal shift, trajectory, or predisposition, there is an underlying mechanism to name, the sound, not necessarily the pitch, that effects one's development
>>39114015What’s your first name?Mine is Sean. What type of effect do you think it has had on my life?
i was named after a murder victim apparently. am i gonna get murdered too?
>>39115888Sean Bean seems to have done alright. It seems a confidently in the lead name but without trying too hard, like Roman or Diego.
i knew a girl named patience that was not patient at all
>>39114015you're correct, however last names have a greater impact then your first
>>39115919I wouldn’t freak out about it bc there are probably many more people with your name that are doing just fine. I have the same name as a relatively famous person and also a murderer but I’ve only hurt flies. Plus there’s probably like 50000 other people that have my same first and last name. Usually it’s the one off names that tend to commit the most crimes it seems.
>>39115983she murdered herself so I wonder if I will also commit suicide since i have tried before. she was also famous, and it's all really sad. when I found out I had a mini mandela effect over the time of her death going from before I was born to after, so I have complex feelings about this.
>>39114015Mine is Vladimir and there aren't many in my country. I noticed we are more serious, sober, high strung. I think whether your parents call us by the full name or a diminutive/nickname also has an impact. Mine called me by my full name, which isn't a childish name and i think it left a mark.Also in my country there is (was) the custom of looking at the Orthodox Christian calendar and giving the name of the saint celebrated on that day, or the closed saint celebration. I think it's cool cause it takes out the parents' biases.Also giving unusual names to children is interesting, the Jolly Heretic on yt has some videos about this.
>>39116004What’s your name?
>>39116038>giving the name of the saint celebrated on that day the baby is born
>>39114015My first name means “chosen, selected, appointed, preferred”.
>>39116040i don't know if i should say, but i will say during a deep meditation trance i may have contacted her or another um... person with a different part of her name without knowing who she was until i found out later... deals with mathematics and cryptography too, i think i may have contacted the dead. i looked her up and started to cry again.
>mine means from the sea and the water in many cultures>I nearly drowned as a small child and can't swim, had a phobia of deep water all my lifeWELP
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>>39115919Let’s hope not
The strangest name, with the strangest amalgam of people under its banner is Ben
>>39115888There are neutral names.There are negative names.There are positive names.some names will have no effect, others will.chad/stacy for example, more often that not, produce chad and stacy results. alpha behavior.
I was thinking about this yesterday. creation is the most paranormal thing that can be seen, every aspect of it
>>39115958its not the meaning of the words that have any effect. i knew a girl named serenity who was anything but serene. its to do with the actual pronounciation of the inflective tones of the words themselves, that when spoken, received to the ear, most likely as a child, that shapes to some degree their development for certain traits, and later, as this becomes obsolescent around puberty, becomes an unconscious mechanism of intangible comparison of outcomes/manners/traits/behaviors with others of the same name.there seems to be a zone for this. if a name becomes too popular it may simply evaporate this effect. someone said ben. thats one such example. no ones going to compare themselves to some jew who got metzizah b'peh'd as an infant and now sounds like a mouse. atleast you would think. so maybe there is some cultural component as well. jewish bens might be different than german bens. fun fact: did you know accents affect physical characteristics over time? and that the structure of the face, specifically around the mandible and chin can indicate how someone's ancestors might be inclined towards certain gluttaral forms of pronouncing words?but if a name its rare enough where such subliminal archetypes exist but are not overrepresented, they become a sort archetype for the unconscious to aspire to. the ben's ben shapiro might look to might be significantly different than the ben's ben from dusseldorf might have as archetypes.so there are several forces at work that could factor into this phenomenon.the tones inflected by the name itself, which would be most infleuntial in early stages of development. and a transitory process around puberty or after which is relegated to the unconscious which uses archetypal representations for others with the same name.
>>39115919this is more about your own expressed behaviors, not other peoples. maybe behavior isnt necessarily the right word.. traits might be more appropriate.
>>39114015I disagree. I thought some too at times, but the more people of the same name I meet, the more differences become noticeable. It's a pattern till you get to know enough folks to notice how wrong that pattern is.
>>39114015>A name can shape a person>X Æ A-Xii motherfuckers:
>>39115965yes but last names are not within our control to the same degree first names are. this thread is about WHO DO YOU WANT YOUR CHILD TO BECOME and the importance of selecting an appropriate name to help to shape the course for their life.if you give your kid a name like "Caesar", you may as well just kill them now. You will be creating an impossible bar for them to subconsciously compare themself to.you name a kid "jesus" or "mohammad" youll be fine, because theres like a million of those. note this part of the process is an UNCONSCIOUS component. so while the conscious might hope to aspire to those famous characters, the unconscious will not exclusively associate it to one fixed archetype but rather all jesuses and mohammads, especially ones they have personally interacted with or have familiarity with.
>>39117039>unheard of name - does not apply>uncommon name - does apply>falling off point somewhere here>popular name - does not applyits not going to work with npc names like Mabel, where you can see the name and pinpoint precisely when that person was born. Those are too common and generic to really apply. Stacy being a surprising exception to the rule.
>>39117086in these cases there would only be the first component that applies at the earliest stages of development, and not the archetypal form more pronounced in the later stages.the best names, in theory, would look to consider both of these stages to maximize the effect on shaping the outcome for the traits of the child.
>>39117060is that the tranny or another ruined kid?
>>39116269it has nothing to do with meaning, thats entirely unrelated to what im talking about here.
>>39116088*shes* not realthats you falling in your love with your own unconscious Self, the anima/animus.
>>39116046for me, its Saint Denis. was decapitated, then picked up his own head and proceeded to walk for five miles through the streets of Paris. All while preaching a sermon on repentance.Wow. What a goy!
>>39114015I have met 3 people called Luke and they all had the exact same terrible handwriting.
>>39114015My name translates to: The Greatest soldier, intelligent and wiseNamecucks btfo
My names David. How fucked am i
>>39114015My name is Victor and I do in fact live up to the name very regularly usually we're winners My best bro's name is Joshua and every other Joshua I've ever met was either the most chill dude ever or super spiritual/religious and very cynical - makes sense considering Jesus's real name was Yehoshu'a/Yeshua (Joshua) My longtime girlfriend's name is Lili and she's super into snakes, birds and reptiles, super into the occult and black magick and she likes to be on top when we fuck (which is awesome cuz then I don't have to pump I just get my rocks off) - Lili also mostly hates men but she is all over me and is good friends with Josh too There might be some shit to this naming stuff after all
>>39114015TrueI love my name, it's from a certain myth and movie People keep telling me about the myth
>>39116269You type and post like a dyel /fit/ poster.
>>39117230nobodys talking about "meaning" tho lol
>>39117252too basictheres an almost astrological effect (i.e. horoscopes) to tell you about your personality, but for this specific phenomenon it requires names not too common, and not too rare to predict behavior. the more common the name, the less predictability.the less common the name, the less predictability.but right there in the middle, is that sweet spot. the bell curve. and there, is where you can effect outcomes and influence your kid's personality type.
>>39117286Keep dumb bible shit out of this thread please this is for free-thinking adults only lmao
>>39118110Shut up loser I'm actually trying to participate in this discussion and all you have to say is some inane faggy shit about Christians I'm just pointing out how the names of myself and my loved ones reflect on our personalities on some level
>>39118393artificially manufactured archetypes like jesus are very real. they are material forms, rather than the natural archetypes one's soul would otherwise attune to. (((the living word))) is a very real phenomenon, inducing behavioral changes across generations to such an extent that, inevitably, without intervention, will become genetically predisposed towards developing certain behaviors.icons, heroes, mythological characters, all of these can inspire these same changes if followed in cult-like fashion across many generations. the problem of course, is they are insufficient, and even provided they were real people, were following their own archetypes specific to their own circumstance and environment, and not your own. so even if you perfectly attuned to such an archetype, you will sadly find yourself (lit. your soul) hitting a brick wall in development, because you have no primary authentic natural archetype anymore and have replaced it with its artificial imposter.this is because the divine isnt some fixed concept, it is always adapting, repurposing things for the wider outcome, and that involves moving pawns to effect the change it seeks. i.e. the necessary evil, which provides for a more beneficial, or atleast more benefient good which it seeks, or vice versa.
>>39118393>>39118554and yes i realize thats not an easy pill to swallow, but it is the case, and is something we once understood before christianity came to handicap us all and move our understanding of the divine back to the stone ages
>>39114015>Donald Trump>>Dept. of Homeland Security, LAPD, CIA>>>br.coffee
>>39118577I just want it to be clear that I'm not a Christian, I believe that I will find my own way out and forward - be my own Messiah I just thought it was incredibly annoying that some pest crawled out of the grease trap just to shit on my post Yeah my buddy Josh is a weird one - very generous kind and friendly but he's got a temper and he's super cynical, if you ask him he always has some biting commentary about how things in society work He's very spiritual, much more than me but he isn't obnoxious about it at all in fact you gotta coax him a bit to get it out (he's a Scorpio Sun/moon so it tracks that he's like that) My gf really does remind me of Lilith right out of the stories at times, blond hair and really striking (her name is actually Lilian though) so it really does have me thinking about what you're saying about artificial archetypes because if my buddy Josh's name was Jesus I feel like way more people would see it (he even looks like how they try to depict Jesus now as more Palestinian-looking instead of European - although my buddy's a beaner lol) I don't really know how my name informs my personality other than that I regularly emerge victorious or win contests and shit all the time
>>39118577heres a.. slightly better version, although a.c. was never even a thing, and epicurus wouldnt have been talking about abrahamic specific concepts like satan
>>39118650i know what you meant about the names that other anon just got triggered way too easily and took it as you shilling for christ when that was not your intention
What about when you give yourself a new name?
>>39118650and you have the best philosophy. no man living in the wild free of human interaction ever came to independently know the name jesus, or yahweh, or abraham, other than the single originator, everyone else had to be manually exposed by another rather than independently come to the same conclusion. thats how i knew it was fake atleast. i dont want to poison your well or anything but it was how i was able to connect the native american manitou and plato, completely removed from one another and without influence, syncronizing with one another and (in my experience) are independently verifable irl; whereas while the post-alexander syncretism in the eastern hemisphere was politically convenient and purposeful, even before that manual syncretism, there were very clearly cross-cultural influences impacting one another's perspectives for interpretations, especially with the astrological aspects and the myths surrounding them. and while the architecture in the southern hemisphere may suggest there was some outside contamination, those features didnt seem to extend anywhere even close to the Algonquins, and that suggests to me there was an element of independence from any influence which may have biased their interpretations and beliefs. and unfortunately, if that is the case, it means humans have actually devolved in their understanding of the divine.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manitou
>>39117060https://web.archive.org/web/20080216075148/https://www.xeeatwelve.com/
>>39118728by the time youd think to do that or even be able to do that its already probably too late. your character and its traits fixed. by the time you finish high school, you know whether youre a beta or not. very rarely does a beta go off to college and become a chad. it does happen, yes, but its right at the threshold where that stops being possible.
>>39118794>Port Arthur Massacre Revisitedugh
>>39114015My name's Eric, am I cooked or nah?
>>39114015Hello, my name is Tuppo.
>>39119545And my name is Bardo.
>>39114015MY NAME IS MUD
>>39119523nah, eric is a based pie name. probably inclined towards assertiveness, as has been the case in my experience. the same root origin as erubus in the proto-helenic. the proto-armenian is erek. these two names would provide similar outcomes, as when spoken, are virtually indistinguishable. although id be interested to know about how minute differences like that can shape outcome. i knew this one girl named lara and i knew her my whole childhood and could never get her name right, i always called her laura. must have known her 10 years before anyone even noticed lol. maybe i fucked her uphttps://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Reconstruction:Proto-Indo-European/h%E2%82%81r%C3%A9g%CA%B7osdont be alarmed by the 'darkness' part, that is actually how one found divinity in the old days before the npc meta started and people started associating light with goodness and darkness with evil because the sun is light and that is good for crops, therefore everything dark must be bad and things had to be either/or left/right good/evil lacking all nuance so that a toddler could understandbut everyone knows 99/100 if history remembers you as something or someone bad, its probably someone based as shit, and if its something or someone good, it means it was probably someone who helped jews
>>39119770whoops wrong cap here we go
>>39116972Every guy named Chad I've known has been a nervous wreck usually with bad health. And Stacey is a low tier ugly self centered woman everyone laughs at. The meme names are actually the opposite of reality. It's part of the joke.
>>39119887every chad ive known has had sexevery stacy ive known has had like 6 kids
>>39114015>A name can shape a person and affect their behavior, shape one's own fate, and who they eventually become.I lack context for my name and I've shortened it down to one syllable. Even my parents do. By tradition the grandparents choose the name, not the parents.When people describe what I am, they describe that I just do whatever I want. I get away with a ton of stuff. So long as they get what they need of me, who cares what I do in the meantime?
>>39119937Most people have sex. It's a moot point. And the town bicycle usually has a lot of kids.
I agree. I've always considered that names, surnames, and aquired/discovered names were an excellent way to know yourself, your purpose, your capabilities etc, as do hands teach us a lot about a person.
>>39119947>Most people have sex......with meatbags. Most people dont have sex with goddesses. That's why they cope saying only their god (which is male) is real.
>>39120049Most people don't have good sex at all. A lot of women barely ever reach orgasm, a lot of males do reach it either too early or too late. Sex is a ceremony, it's a life wrapped onto itself. And a lot of people are used to shitty ones.
>>39114015Imagine if I was called Travers and now I had a harem of 27 girlfriends.
>>39114015That's interesting. I've wondered about it over the years. I happen to have the same first and last name as the CEO of a major corporation, a household name.
>>39115926Yeah but he dies in literally every movie lol.
>>39118803>go off to college and become a chad.What about the chads that became billionaries and didn't even go to college?
>>39114015My username had a Jewish Gematria value of 666. Creeped me out so I came up with a new one. That new name had an English Gematria value of 666. What are the odds of two completely different names carrying such a number and what does it mean?
>>39119947I haven’t had sex and I’m almost thirty…
>>39119947*most people used to have sexyou just get out of a coma or what?women still have sex, but generally its with 'chad'; whereas men who are not 'chad' are sufferingjust ask yourself: have you ever known anyone named chad to have this problem? can you even imagine such a scenario? a chad being among the non-'chad's? surely yes, its possible, but statistically, improble. rare even. why is this?think abstractly for a moment, to a time before 'chad' the meme. what do you think of when you think of someone name chad?, maybe not one individual specifically, but an amalagamation of everyone named chad? what is the *essence* of chad? what are chad's traits?i'll tell you: dumb, jock, "that lucky bastard" who stole yo girl. the guy women swear they're not even attracted to, but are lying and ashamed to admit they are and sleep with anyway.now why is this? eliminate the possibility im being biased in this way and consider the same characterization can be made by most people for 'chad'. why/how does this outcome occur for chad?the most obvious answer is who the fuck names their kid chad - i.e. it is the parents themselves who are of a certain type of person who would even be willing to give a kid this namebut in addition to this primary factor, i propose . . . see the rest of the thread and op
>>39120717https://youtu.be/2rRIqrWuYy4?t=7m59s
>>39120717>my username in jewish gematria number matcheskek what
>>39117832Ok, timothy
>>39120930>Playing cod with the boys after school with username HiroshimaOh, those were the days
>>39120938why did you choose that name?
>>39120938https://youtu.be/tKCVXnP-oeE?si=DTrxRYcH3eHtFsrP
>>39120958>sinope
>>39120958https://youtu.be/lwGpoM23fuo?si=vNHMijxlRr519xnr
>>39120956Felt like the right one. Am I hot or cold?
My name is Christian. My life isn't interesting or spectacular in anyway. Lately I've been considering becoming a Monk or just living a more Aescetic lifestyle. I've always been a minimalist. Never asked for much throughout life. Even on holidays I'd tell my family not to get me anything. I'm selfless almost to a level of retardation and I just can't help it. Did my name dictate this?
>>39121016>dictatedoes your name have vocal chords?
>>39121038I would assume so. But I can't tell
>>39121237God doesnt have a name because you have something he doesnt
>>39114015Sounds pretty silly to me.
>>39121266Could you possibly elaborate upon this?
>>39121295The greylag goose or graylag goose (Anser anser) is a species of large goose in the waterfowl family Anatidae and the type species of the genus Anser. It has mottled and barred grey and white plumage and an orange beak and pink legs. A large bird, it measures between 74 and 91 centimetres (29 and 36 in) in length, with an average weight of 3.3 kilograms (7 lb 4 oz).
>>39118803(You) sound vaxxed.
>>39121312when adam was "naming" the animals do you think it was like; this one is called lion, this one is called beaver..?
>>39114015>in my tongue my name means "constant/steadfast">I am extremely fickle and indecisive to an unhealthy degree, where I shut down and do nothing, which has resulted in me ruining my lifeExplain that, OP. Is God just playing a joke on me?
One name... Kyle.....
>>39122305>ONE NAME>I DONT KNOW WHY>IT DOESNT EVEN MATTER HOW HARD YOU TRY
>>39122305...Odom?
>>39121638adam wasnt real obviouslyhes just a story jews tell to their slaves so they dont accidentally listen to the based noticer, who will happily tell them about how their entire belief system is fake and gay.even if we used the phoenician which jews ripped off their language from, which wouldve been similiar dates, the names wouldve all been like: "ngg bgl" and shit, as if god couldnt be bothered to tell him about vowels. whole thing is preposterous. the religions prior to abrahamism were so much more advanced, it is even funny.
>Charles AlexanderAlways thought it sounded noble, my parents have good tastes
>>39122754In latin it sounds even more noble>CAROLVS ALEXANDERThat's a name to rule the world right there
>>39122748>the names wouldve all been like: "ngg bgl" and shit, as if god couldnt be bothered to tell him about vowelsI have a suspicion that gods tell stupid rules and neglect to reveal useful information for the lulz.
I agree. My legal name is Riley and my last name isn't very grand either. It isn't something that inspires high ambitions and I hate it. When I was a teenager I never put much thought into success or long term goals. Now I feel like I'm lagging behind and need to catch up. And my online aliases feel more real to me than my "real" name. I might even change my legal name at some point. But at this point I've already said/done enough uncool things before finding who I really am that I already know I'd be a lolcow if I ever had any popularity. So now I feel like I'm left with no real name and all my ambitions must be in the shadows.
This is true. I saw a study recently, they showed people random photos of random people, and then gave the participants a list of 5 names, to guess the name of the people in the pictures. They guessed the name right about 60% of the time. This suggests that your name doesn't necessarily define you in every case, but it's a pretty strong influence.
>>39115888Mines also Sean that's crazy. I guess Seans like 4chan.
>>39124956I haven't met a person named Sean in my entire life.
>>39120571Because he always plays a Jupiter.
My name is Enzo and everyone on my shit country makes fun of me because of it, to the point that my name became a source of sham
>>39124449indeed, many people make the mistake of presuming the gods are some omnibenevolent representation. afaik thats never been the case, and only christians are so naive as to think that.
>>39124877yeah.. in the context of this thread and what i am proposing, "Riley" would not be among the better names. The only positive for names at that tier is there has to be a First among them to define the *Essence* of 'Riley', but that essence might be predisposed towards mediocrity and generally mid-tier traits by being handicapped in the earlier stages of development. Theorhetically, i am suggesting that Ri-ley is fucked, because it initially starts at the High tonal pitch with the first syllable, but shifts to the Lower tonal pitch at the final syllable and ends at that negative, and would therefore be received not only negatively, but disappointingly negatively by first raising the expectations upon hearing that first syllable, only to have it immediately faulter with the second.
>>39124922^see thats what i mean. theres some underlying dynamic and mechanism at play here, and i dont think its simply an environmental/cultural thing which effects these outcomes, but something else. I started noticing that zogbots and all these trained public speakers have a certain way of speaking to people, often like they are children. They use flashy lights, bright colors, hand gestures and constant movement, and inclinations in their speech patterns when speaking of things much like someone whose training a puppy. I myself learned of these things from a police k9 trainer who taught their animals. And most people already know how people to talk to babies. And while i have never done public speaking or anything of that sort, these politicians and public speakers are professionally trained in oration and other skills which have been evolving and adapted over thousands of years. And they all have a very distinct, inorganic way of speaking which would suggest these techniques have been focused tested to oblivion and back. And if they are focus tested for adults, that suggests these mechanisms persist beyond childhood and are still receptive to adults, or atleast for enough of them that would warrant their usage.
Everyone's talking about first names, but what about last names? How do you feel about last names shaping fate? I remember reading this article about this guy wanting to become a butcher because his last name was Cleaver and I always thought that was an interesting twist. There's a term for this, some kind of term in sociology or whatever field it would be in, but I don't remember it. I feel like it has predestination within the term.
>>39127414and if that is all true, then how might a name effect the individual themself and have an impact on their development?
>>39127431last names would be more of a conservation about genetics and cultural environment. People with the last name of Miller, traditionally, were Millers. Farmer, farmers. Fletcher, fletchers. Smith, probably smiths.Location surnames also exist, for where they lived. i.e. Hill or Hillman, people who lived near hills im guessing.i will say one thing which might interest you. many last names are reference to some progenitor and mean 'son of' [something], i.e. Jackson, Johnson, Anderson, etc. for jews, for example today its ben-Something, when they were in the aramaic period it would have been bar-[Something], usually a first name like joseph.I do know that Kardashian, translated literally means 'son of' Mason.
>>39127500The first paragraph is exactly what I was talking (btw, I just looked it up and this is it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nominative_determinism). I think the second paragraph veers off into something else entirely, but still interesting tidbit about last names. I didn't know that. I'm going to look it up.
>>39115888>>39114015My name is Εὐκλείδης, the one with good fame, but I am a fucking useless NEET, disliked enough by everyone to form part of networks and put myself in any path for success, and found creepy by women and normals
>>39127666youve just described like 30% of the populationwho would admit all that checked anyway
>>39114015it always weirds me out how people with my name do similar things and have similar personalities
>>39127730so names didn't shape my life as OP says?
>you will be called traveler
>>39127642i mean.. is it really a hypothesis if someone who comes from 50 generations of farmers took up the name farmer, and who lives on a farm becomes a farmer? i mean, your name is farmer for a reason. and if thats your name theres probably a good chance youll be inclined towards that sort of work. seems more like common sense to me, but science today is overly concerned with proving the obvious. its getting embarassing. i just saw a paper with like 30 different names arguing for the benefits of merit very clearly for the people who pay their salaries being fully aware of the necessitation, and opting to eliminate it anyway, the writers, of course, being fully oblivious to this fact, and in a weird sort of irony, by being oblivious of this fact, are announcing themselves as those who are not worthy of merit, and thus should keep their positions lol
