Is it a legitimate practice?
>>39118115> Is it a legitimate practice?Internal alchemy is
>>39118115Yes, but I would say in most cases it is a coded metaphor for personal and spiritual transformation. Not to say they didn’t perform and experiment a great deal with pharmacology, but I don’t think they were turning lead into gold
>>39118115Both internal and external alchemy are legitimate if done correctly. External alchemy requires a vast amount of magic and astrology. Internal alchemy involves mental transmutation and the sacrifice of the base materia of your soul and the cultivation of the pure components.
>>39118134Absolutely it is all at least half a metaphor for internal change. But understanding how transformation occurs with natural materials helps you figure out how to change yourself successfully. Metallurgy and stone masonry started in prehistoric times and Alchemy was the culmination of the esoteric lore and study of these practices, but it was always since ancient Egyptian days a way of understanding how to effect personal transformation. Now basically anybody with a true desire can perfect themselves in a manner once reserved for Pharoahs and Kings.
>>39118115Buddy, alchemy is just an outdated schizo term for chemistry
>>39118722I don’t know how you can come to /x/ and post that as an honest reply
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>>39118115Alchemy is said to be a metaphor for spiritual transmutation and transcendence rather than literally transmuting materials. Jung wrote some good basic understandings of alchemy, I'd recommend someone like Paul Foster Case of BoTA if youre truly interested. Can find his works here: http://iapsop.com/lessons/
>>39118115Personal? Always Elemental? Not as easy
>>39118115>Is it a legitimate practice?Yes because it's the year 1125 AD you fucking idiot
>>39118134>>39118176RetardsYou are probably the semen retention retards
>>39120173>>39120178Drink a cup of cum and calm down, homo
yes. the stone is real.
>>39118115I would have to ask what type you plan on doing but the answer to all of them is yes to some extent first you have external alchemy. this is the stuff where people had labs and were making the physical philosophers stone, elixirs, and occasionally small humans and animal hybrids. if you have the means to setup a proper lab, have a solid understanding of the respective philosophy your flavor of external alchemy is based on (esoteric Islam, Western hermetic, or Daoist), and ether a gift to decipher texts made to mislead or the patience for trial and error sure. it can be very rewarding and you have more resources then ever with many texts by well respected alchemists being translated into English. just make sure you ignore everything after around the mid to late 1700s for this path and dont eat anything without testing it on something else before you. I would recommend ripely as a starting point as he is pretty direct as far as alchemists gothen you have western spiritual alchemy this is a relatively new idea born out of the occult revivel around 1800. this mostly just consists of a gross misinterpretation of external texts into a explanation of the spirit and psyc. this still kinda works though as even though they are misinterpreting old texts the hermetic philosophy stays mostly in tact and remains as a very effective way of mapping the mind and psyc. for this the only author I have read personally and can respect is Carl Jung although he had is own fallys.then you have external alchemy. this is basically just Chinese energy practices I can not really recommend where to start because qi gong faggots always argue how every other school is gonna give you super cancer even though they had existed for about as long as the school they are apart of so no one is right but every one is right. if you do find a reliable source or teacher then it will have great effects on your health though.
>>39121410I apologize for any possible grammatical or spelling mistakes it is late as fuck rn
>>39118115>alchemyproto-chemistry combined with some flare of theology, psychology and philosophyis it a legitimate practice? depends on what you're trying to do with it, if you're trying to turn "lead into gold" it depends how you meanif you want to turn mundane material lead into material gold then no, it's not going to happenif you mean a internal change, a mental change of turning the mundane thing of default mode human mind into "glistening gold" then yes, i would believe that you can find some alchemical literature to help you with thatwhy shouldn't you use alchemy? because the jealous cunts boobytrapped it so that if you read it without being initiated you will first of all have hard time understanding wtf you're reading and second of all you will developed delusional mind and may even have a psychotic episode because of itthere are easier ways to unite the opposites, to make mundane materials into gold and to finish the magnum opus, alchemy is just the "western way" and it is the most edgiest and stupid of them all made for a perfumed smelling, hooded silk robe wearing child loving sodomites who can't get enough of their drug fueled cult orgiesanything that spawned masonry and gnosticism is inherently badtldr; it can work but so can a rock for a hammer, just use a hammer instead and look to the east
>>39118115Yes
>>39118115Brief history:>Alchemy was once as chemistry is today and merely involved material transmutation>Alchemists, however, became frustrated when they realised that only having the constituent material components was not enough to create a human or golem>This led into frantic research about the human soul, which was now confirmed to be real and physical, but in ways that alchemists were unfortunately forced to admit they did not understand>In the 19th century most alchemical research was declared (((outdated))) and swept under the rug so that it could be carried out in secret, which continues to this day>This likely implies that the "wealthy families" had found out, to some extent, what constitutes the human soulBut, to be honest, I'm not really convinced that they understand the soul.If they do, why can't they make REAL artificial intelligence? Anyone with half a brain knows that """"artificial intelligence"""" as it exists currently is only a fancy random number generator, and will stay that way until 2090.They're missing something, and they don't know what it is.
>>39118115Do you even The Book of Aquarius.tl;dr: The philosopher's stone is made of pee.
>>39123130
Yes.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdJbW8sKa9M
>>39118115what is her hair color called? bright purple? vivid pink?
>>39123205Magenta, an equal blend of red and blueIt's often considered a mystical color due to being extra-spectral
>>39118986Trans coded game
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>>39125108Wtf
>>39118738There is magic in chemistry. The more you learn about it the more you'll know this is true.
>>39118115big problem with western esoterica is its external alchemic practices and internal spiritual practices got degraded enough to get mixed up with each other I have seen enough to say both are legitimate but its difficult to find a living practitioner of either with the least of attainments let alone anyone who would dare even dream of actually regaining the arts of the old masters. they all just end up believing their little puddles are the extent of the arts possibilities.there are more scientists rediscovering bioenergy from a secular lens than occultists maintaining their schools arts at this point look up the ebner effect, electroculture or read robert beckers "the body electric" they will give you a far greater understanding of alchemy than any occult book on the subject will say in plain englishmuch less decay on the eastern side though partly because their external side died off too early to pollute the spiritual side and absent christianitys malicious percecution their herbalism, martial arts, and spiritual practices resisted confusing each other
>>39121410I get the hate for the qi gong faggots but most occultists are more like that then otherwise there is just enough of them on here for us to see it up close pretty much all occult schools believe their creed is the greatest and hostility to other schools is more often about how much they know those other schools are capable of than anything elseI recently got through jims travel diary of a book on mo pai and a bit of bardons second book on evocation a width of schools almost unthinkable to anyone deep enough to consider what it all means and a very obvious point is John Chang was clearly a master evoker regularly calling up the spirit of his schools grandmaster for advice on acupuncture patients where the spirit outright gives him physical medicines for the patients and annually terrified his family with a summoning with all the fanfare franz calls the sign of a necromancer who just got lucky despite john having a regularity and potency of the phenomenon that should be awe inspiring compared to how iffy most occultists powers are.taking bardon at his word john got dragged to some random hell plane for half assed techniques yet john achieved things bardon would consider impossible period let alone without his schools creed and pretty much all schools just limit what they consider possible to what their earliest living teacher can do and if anyone else does better its either fake or a demon did it to trick them like their own shit smells like roses.the danger with energy practices is real though. there is clearly a point in spiritual practices where you actually can hurt yourself and as far as living schools they all seem to either fail to reach that point or having burnt themselves on divinity become too cowardly to dare further. reaching outright anime bullshit would require breaking through this barrier but any school that ever knew how seems dead or too corroded to do it safely or reliably at least
>>39118115we can turn things to gold but it takes an incredible amount of energy to do so
>>39118115No
>>39118115Yes. Transmutation is part of nature. We're just (willfully?) ignorant of it.
>>39128288thanks is the name just biological transmutation
>>39118115Yes, just that they had persecution all the time and to use cryptography very oftenSome of what you will read is intentionally wrong, but other hard to believe stuff is empirically tested.Either way it will be coded.So you need a good bullshit detector.
>>39128945Yes. Good book. Provides evidence that organisms routinely transmute elements. Eg. chicken eat sillica to get calcium for their egg shels.
>>39129157Yep
>>39118115Alchemy right now in it's classic form is larping as metamaterials and chemistry right now. Even without the supernatural they found ways to transmute shit into gold. with supernatural stuff it's a decent amount easier to reach the end goal of the philosopher's stone, problem is you need an absolutely stupid fucking amount of money to do it. Internal Alchemy is some genuinely stupid shit and nobody in the history of ever has achieved the end goal with that wannabe Taoism nonsense.
>>39129157They really do just poison our understanding of the world at every opportunity Found a paper once where a scientist discovered inhibiting one protein from its job in a cell eventually just had another pick up its slack
>>39127297ormus and monoatomic gold are good rabbit holes for digging up some real potent modern alchemy and for other health benefits can look up parasite pill and cosmic death fungus generals in the archive
>>39130674changing the body through spiritual practices predates taoism and christianity it was a known practice of the church "divinization"? at one point but actual spiritual practices in the church have nearly died off completely as far as I can tell and the hermeticists who picked up the torch have done poorly as well only known school I think is still alive is freemasonry and thats been under jew control so long anything they may have pulled from the already censored texts they started with must be already lost again
>>39118115Short answer: Yes.Long answer: You don't deserve it.I don't want to be condescending but honestly even if you tried, I doubt you'd get anywhere with internal or external alchemy, OP. You don't have what it takes.
>>39134669>bait
>>39127297Nah the western side is very much alive and thriving, and in its fullest heights of achievement. But its not something you can find at your local gas station - you have to seek for it. Much is written very plainly in books, for those with the patience to read them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMMUAd66vxo
>>39136886dude we had berserkers like actual superhumans in high enough numbers to be a social class before christianity look up somaferamodern occultism is playing with lighters you can barely tell are empty or not compared to the bonfires we lost what books get past the absolute basics nowadays what great literature have you found
>>39121443An alchemist turned lead into gold live on Spanish public television in 1977, with jewelers testing it was 100% pure gold and living the set mad as fuck. The guy dissappeared never to be seen again.
>>39123126The faggot who wrote that book didn't even reach the White Stage. It's all mere speculation he put on a book before even getting any results, his only quotes being particular but literal interpretations of texts specially written with the intent of misleading.
>>39139426yeah lot of occultists just fuck up immensely and publish it I looked up the mo pai notes and guy who collated it used local thai energy practices to fill the gaps in what very proudly declared itself a recently migrated chinese school they are unfortunately probably right about it being the closest thing we'll get but its damn well a failure to decode the school.
>>39118115They were too focused on encoding their manuscripts and now it is all pretty much incomprehensible therefor useless.
>>39140448Wrong
