Do you believe God will eventually forgive Lucifer for trying to overthrow Him?
No.
Do you consider Paradise Lost? (1667) to be biblical canon? Because that's where the story is from. Theres only one mention of a "Lucifer" in the bible, and that is referring to a Babylonian king in the story.But if you want to read about angels rebelling and falling, I recommend Sefer Hanok, aka Book of Enoch. Altough Lucifer isn't mentioned in that book either, the rebel is called Samyaza there.
Matthew 25:41“Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:” Revelation 20:10“And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.”
>>39122142The footage in question:
>>39122142Probably not because he knows betrayal is part of his very being, so he'd only end up trying it again sooner or later. Same reason he won't let anyone out of hell. They'd end up repeating their sins.
There is nothing to forgive, God made Lucifer betray him by creating him with treachery. He deliberately sabotaged him knowing he would do it eventually so he could make an example out of him for the other angels. If God is perfect then he wouldn't have fucked up Lucifer. He chose to make him that way. Which is far worse than it being an accident.
>>39122142He would if Satan had the capacity to seek and accept forgiveness. But his will is fixed. He made his decision, and doesn't regret it.
>>39122142I think it's more of an ongoing mutual grudge where neither is willing to put in the work towards reconciliation
>creates lucifer with a personality flaw>gets angry at his creationderanged abrahamic logic
>>39122644Not only that but we also havent heard the truthful account from multiple sources. What makes it likely that a higher being with more foresight and an entirely different mental and emotional system would be lead by a character flaw. Thats more a human viewpoint. For all we know our collective consensus just keeps these beings bound and alters their form.
>>39122603>But his will is fixed. He made his decision, and doesn't regret it.what an asinine response the creator created him that wayit's like kicking a puppy till it runs away and then beating it death when you bring it home
Who do you think gave him the idea?
LUCIFER AND SATAN ARE NOT THE SAME YOU ABSOLUTE FUCKING RETARDS
1990+23https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RubBzkZzpUA
He already has. You're missing something in Time.
Things started to turn around in 2020... or 1990 plus 30.
>>391240012024 = 1990 + 34It makes more sense when you have the key.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhKYRH2XXp0
>>39122142No one could overthrow an Omnigod, nor would said god care anymore than you could be offended by ants
>>39123976What’s left… oh your soul oh yea that’s right a ghostly figure I guess you can’t think when your in soul mode either… Glowie fuck
>>39123308>my son>we must create some divine drama>why father>to get peoples gears grinding so they have something to think about
Exorcists say the demons will never be forgiven and will eternally be punished.
>>39122142only if he punishes him deeplymy lifes been a living hell since 7 probably due to him so i would sayi hope fucking not
>>39122142>Lucifer, one of the Gods that Masons can worship, and American Masons most especially; Archangel of Music and Pride....Ever occur to you anons; that the deity/s in question might never have been prouder of their Archangel of Pride, for refusing to bow to tyranny?>Endowed by our creator, with certain inalienable rights.... >Though it should be noted that it would depend on the "Lucifer" in question, as there are quite a few beings using that name....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bW4ZwyYJYbQ
>luciferLurk for 2 years before posting
>>39124257>Ever occur to you anons; that the deity/s in question might never have been prouder of their Archangel of Pride, for refusing to bow to tyranny?do you know what spiritual tyranny is like? To be dazed and diminished in your consciousness? To have your heart toyed with and your mind slowly fading in clarity and lucidity? To have to spread out over such a long period that it slowly changes the opinion and awareness of entire groups of beings? I'm not talking about its manifestation here on Earth, but elsewhere too.Just imagine being bombarded constantly with mental suggestions to the point where you cave in and meekly follow along. Where your emotions are quelled and replaced if they become inconvenient. Where your life is one of service to others and exploitation. It would make the Age of Discovery look like kindergarten.Literally the equivalent to "arbeit macht frei" on a spiritual level. And people quarrel about why you should or should not bow. The deities and beings that earn your respect will never demand it. Their very presence and aura make it undeniable. To all the rest you simply resolutely refuse. Service to yourself and then service to those with a respected history of leadership.
>>39122142There is no God. There is a goddess, though. Lucifer is a epiteth of Venus.
>>39122142The devil is God. Why is some fucking omnipotent being wasting our time playing with Himself like a child with dolls
I don't recall one single mention of the name "Lucifer" in the old testament.
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>>39124498It is not. Satan is in the bible. Upon rebelling God gave Satan the title or name of The Devil. Demons are also devils, but not The Devil. Basically in old paganism when christianity was forming it was normal to see gods of different regions as just ethnic flavorings of the real gods, just their avatars in different places and different languages. Sometimes you could learn about the Gods by learning about them in a new region, sometimes a people even have learned of a God that your ethnicity has no parallel to.
>>39122142>>39122159Yes, it's up to Lucifer to admit that he screwed up.
>>39122142Lucifer is not Satan, he is one of GOD's sons with human women along with his brother Christ. Christ and Lucifer run a kind of good cop/bad cop routine on humanity, with Christ advocating mercy and Lucifer stressing punishment of sin. Azazel is female btw
>>39122821I don't know what you want from me. That's just the reality of the situation. Don't you think that if Satan wanted to be forgiven, he would have sought forgiveness by now? It's been billions of years since he fell.
>>39122603Satan and Lucifer are two very different entities. Satan is evil. Lucifer is prideful. Satan is the dark in the dark. Lucifer is the light in the darkness, the morning star.
>>39122142Nor the jew, black, spic, communist lesbo or Fag.That's right Suck on that.
>>39124965You people are fucking retards. Genuinely where do you get this shit? Did you just see some other fuckwit say something like this and thought it was novel and immediately assumed it was correct?
>>39124965>Lucifer is prideful... therefore I looked back on all the works which my hands had done, and on the labour with which I had toiled to execute them; and behold all was vanity and vexation of spirit, and there is no lasting advantage under the sun.
>>39123314It doesn't matter they all think el diablo is me and I'm him.Anons here are not god so much. I know my fate.Nemo and that redhead are trying to take the fall on them No god hates love always has. My revallion was for man to have free will the asshole can say what he wants He is god after all and noone not even me can do anything about it.They are right about I e thing at the time I meant it but it want for me it was for my son jesus you see Yahweh wants to steal his gifts. So did what I did so he could do it without being controlled same with the apple I do t regreat it else my son would not have the foresight and wisdom he has now. Let the dragon bitch.It's all he's good for these daysNo fuck MolochWill not worship dad.The wanker accursed my wife and separated me from my kid and gives me no money to get out of my troubles and homelessnessFuck the wanker.It's too bad Prometheus didn't kill dad.But mum intervened to stop him and her husband's death Shophia is wrong I can't save dad he has too much jealousy. She might love him But he's too damn evil.I tried to help. No.The bible makes it clear I'm fucked.I'll enjoy my last days.I can only promise one thing I won't attack Yahweh, for mums sake. It's because of angel shophia and my love that I can't.I'll accept my fate.Who cares anyway, I can't change my fate.It's pointless and we are too far Into relations to go back. All I can do is not fight back and just take it.Who cares anyway no one will miss me and I'm about done trying to help.No, as father said it's too mate for me.His envy of my son will get us both killed.He started this end of the world bullshit it's all his fault as usual.Your Jewish god is so far up his ass he abandoned his son and humanity.The old man is evil as hell.And will never change.Admit I was wrong. Hell no.I made jesus to get rid of dad not give him the crown.Fucking Juden ras.No.Fuck Juden.
>>39124635This.
>>39122165The story is from The New Testament. But has inspiration from Second Temple Judaism.
>>39122142According to the early Church father Origen, even Satan and his demons will eventually be saved at the end of time.
>>39125387You niggers really just kinda say shit huh
>>39122142Dumb question. Lucifer is the God Venus and it's impossible for Gods to go against the will of another God. Satan is not an entity but a statement. The purpose of the book of Job is the lesson that you cannot go against the will of God.
>>39124257>>39124354What do you call a person who brings "more light" to Masons, and won't bow to tyrannical demands of a tyrant no matter what.>Oh, that's easy to answer...... a free person.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65SCziAGthw
>>39122142no>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pIcYM6A0Dolucifer is satan his nature is the sin inside us allsin is lucifer angel sin
>>39122142This world is controlled by Lucifer, who deceived the nations with his Freemasonic builders. One day the synagogue of Satan shall bow down before the overcomer, who is a Christian, from Revelation 3:7-13 (google it). This overcomer shall start the beginning of the time when the saints shall rule with rods of iron, while the manchild of Revelation 12 is raptured before Satan can assassinate him.>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FT24b6WSrEA>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Xg0y5iX4tk>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSHkXVOyHMI>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZNLZi_rWWwIt's Jesus in the body of Christ us born again with the Holy Ghost VS the body of Satan who are the people of disobedience working in the angel of the air who is Lucifer.>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5Fc60OStwY>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzzF683maSQOnce the world acknowledges Satan's defeat, then let us elect a new president that shall reveal the truth, eventosay the shape of the earth, and the nature of space above with the reveal of high strangeness, and extraterrestrial life and UFO technology.>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71SrHG-B-8oJust show us all the truth already?Or are you Governments waiting for Jesus to return and do it instead?
>>39125743The joke, of course, being that if the only question of whether you'll "obey" when someone tyrannically attempts to steal your rights, and enslave you, is how much power the being in question has; then you're nothing but a sycophantic bootlicker.
>>39125793Just remember anons; that Jesus proved he was an unworthy tyrant when he whipped the money changers in the Temple, as the Jews were completely free to insist on using their own currency in their Holy Temple, and regardless of the exchange rate, it wouldn't matter, since money, as a storehouse of labor and value would be exchanged at the same exact rate regardless of the Jewish person in question, and the Gods, and Jewish Gods, would have known exactly how much labor and effort each individual Jew put into earning that money, and how it was made, when they made their donation to whichever of the Jewish Gods they worshiped; he was literally nothing but a tyrant who whipped people who tried to worship a different one of the Jewish Gods than him.>And Solomon the Great erected Temples to many different Spirits and Gods in the land of Judea.... because in his wisdom he knew that all of those spirits and Gods had a place within the lands and needs of their peoples.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1wVcz8TF6c
>>39125034No. Personal experience and insight. Tell me, where did you get your knowledge? The words of somebody else?
>>39125034> Did you just see some other fuckwit say something like this and thought it was novel and immediately assumed it was correct?this is exactly what they're doing lol
>>39126356the most psychotic ones like this guy cope that they made it up themselves. clowns lmao
>>39126170Jews only worship one god, Yahweh or YHVH, the war god of the desert. And so do Christians and Muslims.
>>39126372Remember to read your Bible in English, and stick to the King James version.
>>39126373Wrong. There are multiple examples of Jews worshiping a number of Gods in both historical texts and the Torah.
>>39126379>Thou shall not revile the Gods.>Exodus 22:28 KJV
>>39122142Will DaFuqBoom! ever forgive Gaben for killing the Skibidi toilet cinematic/television universe?This is what you sound like to me.>>39124865>RealityThat word means nothing to you, you’re a coward who flinches at Jewish ghost stories
>>39122142'ha' Satan didn't rebel! YHWH saw him as being imperfect and threw him out of Heaven! "Lucifer" is the name of a minor Roman god of light, who the KJV Committee added to the Bible, and Christcuck 'Faith inflation' did the rest. 'Lucifer' doesn't refer to a fallen angel.
>>39122142Can't he receive an appropriate and just punishment and rehabilitation? Even if it's something beyond the scope of the human mind, you'd think total and perfect reconciliation of all creation would be achievable and good for all.
>>39122142very unlikely. Forgiveness is reserved for humans. Angels, demons don't get that privilege because they exist in different plane of existence. They can occupy physical world, but it seems that this is unusual occurrence, so it isn't enough to grant them same status as humans.
>>39122142>>39124627My catholic school taught me than angels are unable to repent of their choices since they are more perfect and have a more lucid state of mind, so their decision was final and all demons got fucked forever
>>39122398This. Lucifer is doing an experiment, not rebelling. It's all part of the plan.
>>39129013>>39122142Yep that’s me, I bet you’re wondering how I got banished by the creator to the lowest dimensional level of reality.