What do you think about David Icke?Is he legit or just controlled opposition?
I think he believes what he saysReminds me of L R Hubbard
>>39128935Godfather of reptilians is okay with meSometimes he gets too negative but that’s all of us
>>39128939The guy has been vindicated by history
>>39128935He's right. Lizard people is just his codeword for Jews and Christcucks
>>39128935Doesn't mention jews so I think he's covering up for them or he's legit.
>>39128935Has this guy ever talked about Kyle Odom's story?
>>39128935his best book?
>>39128939have you ever taken a personality test?
>>39129260Yes he does. He was one of the most prolific Rothschild exposers. I can tell you haven’t read his books His book was the first one I read Hitler was a Rothschild in and he was doing it before the internet took off
>>39129332yea im a IN(T/F)P 5w4 Solar Pisces Lunar Leo 144 IQ Metaphysical Monist Gnome enthusiast Schizotypal Euromutt Rh- Blue/Time Mage and my EDH deck is Changeling tribal
>>39128935He has edged closer and closer to the truth over time, but still hasn't made that final leap over the mind/gut barrier to realize the reptilians are not "out there", they are deep within.
>>391289354chan heroGodspeed icke
>>39130609>>39130609What exactly does David Icke say about Hitler?
>>39131168His father was a half Rothschild product of rape
>>39128939>Reminds me of L R HubbardHubbard wanted to evade taxes, Icke is banned in half the world for saying reptoids are not cool
>>39128935I only like him because how much he makes glowies seethe
>>39129298One of my all time favorites The biggest secret is another good one
>>39129090Yeah, he is not speaking in pointed literal terms. Which people do you think of first when I say "shape shifting reptilians"?
>>39133294No it’s not good enough He can’t blame the specific people, he has to blame only “the Jews” otherwise we can’t label him racist
borderline retard who also got hit in the head a lot playing soccer
>>39128935IMO the things he claims sounded bonkers, because he doesn't have Jung's background in the scientific/medical/psychoanalytical field, nor Jung's just as passionate interests in the spiritual world, beliefs especially in occult studies and Eastern religions. That's why he sounded like a looney coz he explains these things like a normie sensationalist, instead of someone with scholarly reasonings and eloquence as Jung.
>>39128935A hero to me but I’m proud to be human
>>39128935i'm worried that there really is a nuclear reactor on the moon
>>39128935https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fwrz0-dnZIAwe got this gem because of him. at the very least hes super memeable
>>39134289I forgot joji used to make good music
>>39130609Based for exposing Shitler and his Jewish roots.The Kike fears the Icke.
>>39128935I would say he is more right then wrong but focusses too much on outer circumstance and too little on spiritual/esoteric practice
he offers no solutions whatsoever to the problem he presents to his audience. "the truth shall set you free" - so I pay for his lecture and I'm freed from the matrix, yeah? I don't know if he is delusional or a grifter or lives in his own reality, but he has nothing to offer.
>>39134451There is no solution. And you can't fucking do anything, that's the point. You're powerless.
>>39134451He tells everyone to go within and meditate. His books usually end with some message of hope. What exactly do you want from him?
>>39134451>I am incapable of making conclusions based on given information>I need someone else to tell me what to think and do
>>39128935I'm pretty sure he's generally legit, or tries to be, but he's essentially what happens when an NPC wakes up from NPC status and sees the actual horseshit that is around him. It's like a hylic achieves gnosis somehow and the first thing he sees is the stupid reptile bastards once he achieved sentience. I don't blame him, but that shit had to suck big time pre internet.
>>39135034You're the NPC
>>39135041Everyone's an NPC until they are not.
Like what I've heard of him, just ordered The Trap to read on my next flight
>>39128935I see him as a guy who has aggregated and disseminated a lot of information which is very inconvenient to some of the most horrifically powerful humans alive today.I also see him as a dupe of at least some efforts at disinformation. What makes the most sense to me about the reptilian shapeshifters shit is that once he started getting a following and confidential sources started coming to him with more information, some intel agency or another slipped in a few convincing actors into those who approached him, conveying various half-truths along with "btw I saw lizard people". After a few of these agents talked with him, he saw a pattern of lizard people reports among some of confidants, believed it was legitimate and serious, and started talking about, thus achieving the spooks' goal of getting him known mainly as the guy who rants about lizard people and preventing normalfags from listening to him in large numbers. Of course, I could just be wrong about that and there might actually be lizard people, but something like this scenario strikes me as more likely.Lastly, I see him as an almost abnormally poorly-read guy when it comes to ancient mythology. The guy very clearly has never read a word of ancient mythology, but somehow ended up reading Hislop (an obscure Protestant blowhard from the earlier 19th century who kind of just made random shit up about ancient Mesopotamian religion as a means to the end of trolling Catholics) and believing that somehow made him an expert on ancient religion and that he never needed to dig into it any further than that. I have no idea how a guy born in the 20th century ends up in that place intellectually, but he somehow got there. The cringeworthy of his hyper-confident braindead rants about Nimrod and Semiramis are probably what have kept me from watching more of him over the years.
>>39135043https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSO9OFJNMBAMatter is energy. In the universe, there are many energy fields which we cannot normally perceive. Some energies have a spiritual source which act upon a person's soul. However, this soul does not exist ab initio, as orthodox Christianity teaches. It has to be brought into existence by a process of guided self-observation. However, this is rarely achieved, owing to man's unique ability to be distracted from spiritual matters by everyday trivia.
>>39135222>Nimrod>SemiramisYou turned a decent herring salty beginning in that last paragraph. You could've left it at the second, accomplished exactly what you needed, and not ended with a counter-signature that anons are familiar with and guarded against.
>>39128935The lizards... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1TsHPbEjIg
>>39135330I didn't because reading ancient religious literature has been one of my major hobbies for years, I've probably read more than 10,000 pages of it at this point, and so I know it's the one thing he's just objectively wrong about. Sounds like you on board with that wacky shit, but be honest: it's just because you liked the story and never questioned it. That's not a paradigm anyone has ever arrived at in good faith, because it's not possible to derive it from the source materials we have. "Guarded against" in this case can only mean "unwilling to examine". This isn't a "he's got one perspective, I've got another" thing, it's just that he is incorrect, and you've either read the Akkadian and Ugaritic literature, and the Greek accounts of the Semiramis-mythos, so that you can easily notice that, or you haven't. It's that cut and dry. Your unwillingness or inability to understand that doesn't change it.
>>39135034When I brought up reptilians as a kid in the 90’s and early 00’s, older people would laugh so hard or get a strange look on their face. My parents encouraged me to focus more on sports around that time
>>39133294>he didn't ACKTUALLY mean "reptilians"Yes, he did. Even the Bible speaks of talking serpent people in the very first chapter. Slither away faggots.
>>39135409Yeah, I’m another anon and I generally agree with you on that part. Funnily enough, I’m not even a classicist or extremely heavy scholar of mythology, but even I independently got the sense (as a pleb and dilettante), while reading his books, that he’s probably closer and way more on-point about various modern political machinations and occult conspiracies and cover-ups in modern history, as opposed to when he tries to go too far back into primo-history and early mythology in extremely over-speculative ways, and as you point out likely sometimes just outright wrong ways. Besides the speculations about who exactly the extraterrestrial players are and what planet come from and what they’re like and must be doing etc. He ain’t perfect, but who is? I myself have had some profoundly weird experiences that got me in line with thinking some of David Icke’s whacko stuff might actually have some grains of truth in it. But of course, speaking of things like that here, you’re likely to get people who’ll think you must be a MK-Ultra victim. I mean all the paranormal rabbit-holes (which can easily become overlapping) of things like extrasensory perception and unusual states of consciousness, synchronicities, the sense that you’re being guided by some higher or at least immaterial power(s) or force(s), extraterrestrial intelligence, besides the idea of a “spiritual enlightenment” we have access to but are ordinarily cut off from due to social conditioning as well as the corruption of religions (God-consciousness, liberation, salvation, “the kingdom of heaven”, some of which ideas are expressed by David Icke in his own way that’s sort of a mixture of neo-Vedanta and New Age philosophy in general, Gnosticism and shamanism as big influences too, besides his ayahuasca trip in Peru).
David Ickes books almost always present multiple possibilities. He doesn’t pretend to know as much as you guys make it sound.His books are similar to Jim Marrs in that way. Here’s the different theories: then they list out multiple outcomes and scenarios.Some of it will be wrong and they admit that. With that said they’re both great researchers
>>39137548I’m the anon who made this post: >>39137522 and so far only that post in this thread (this is now my second post).I don’t mean to join the Icke-bashing cult too uncritically. Even for all the criticisms anon here >>39135222 offers (which I did, again, respond to, saying I thought at least some of these criticisms had a point), I think Icke is definitely at least a solid head-and-shoulders height above the average populace generally in terms of actually being intellectually and spiritually “awakened” to some extent, actually willing to read all these long weird books and claims, besides trying to research all that he can (with the mindset he has which is unique to him specifically and which dictates what is of interest for him to look into, same as for all of us) to seriously find out some plausible answers to questions like, “Why are we here?”, “What are we doing here?”, “What’s going on REALLY?”, “What’s the truth behind the modern-day situation of humanity beyond what governments and what corporate- or government-owned mass news media try to tell us is what’s happening?”.“In the world of the blind men, the one-eyed man is kind.” To modify this old statement, in the world of the fat zombified Prozac-and-Adderall-and-high-fructose-corn-syrup-addicted retards we live in (assuming the Western or at least Westernized first-world nations are where most of 4chan’s traffic comes from, being mostly an English-speaking site), a dude like David Icke is already king for even being able to, say, casually quote Socrates, or bring up some historical factoid about the Balfour Declaration and the people behind it.I think David Icke has done and continues to do a great service for humanity, regardless of whatever nitpicking or henpecking you could do towards him. I’m sure he has his flaws, but that’s like almost every other human being has. Icke is what he is. I have respect & admiration for him, but not blind worship.
>>39135409>>39137522>oy>vey>!
Critics ITT:I know more than Icke and he doesn’t bash the Jews enough
>>39131168Apparently Hitler was gay bro
If we take everything David Icke says to be literalisms and completely divorce them from the context contained within literally 20+ books (a hard feat for any "madman" to achieve, mind you) then we can just call him a crank and be done with it.
>>39138477How can christcucks look at all of that and still think jewsus and yahweh are the real shit? Jews literally plagiarised from every possible mythology in the region.
>>39128935>20+ books (a hard feat for any "madman" to achieveeasy, he's an enabled schizotools are paying a schizo to talk about schizo shit... obviously, he's never gonna stfu
>>39128935Quite obviously controlled opposition, the greatest grifter in the "alternative media" there is, he may actually believe the bullshit he vomits and of course he's enabled to do so since it suits the Globohomo's goal of poisoning the well.Muh lizards, muh aliens, all poisoning the well of the fact that people that experience those "events" are being MKultra'ed in some electronic way, and of course the glowies that run those experiments couldn't be more pleased about it.It's muh Rothschilds he says. Plebeian take, also has he ever denied the myth of the millennia, the hall of cost? Of course not, that's the litmus test of a grifter
>>39142137>muh reptilians aren’t realThen why did our ancestors talk about and worship the Naga? They just got bored one day and decided to worship imaginary bipedal snake beings? Fag
He's not controlled by anyone, he's just too confident in the shit he says. He will look at a statue or a reptile humanoid and come to the conclusion that it must mean they existed irl and were our gods. Except in ancient times statues resembling the gods were not allowed.
IMO a lot of what Icke says and has said in the past is tainted by personal biases and third-party spiritualism, by which I mean reading other people's work on a subject instead of divining that info yourself.The personal biases are very acceptable, everyone has those.The third-party spirituality however is a problem.Icke is one of the people promoting the "we are all One" narrative and that narrative concerns me.Most of the people who've said that phrase use it in the context of "because we're all One, you must do as I and the collective say". It's tyrannical, communist in principle, and very negative. Anathema to God in fact; if we were meant to be the same, why then are we individual manifestations of God? It'd be pointless for us to exist as several million people if we're all just gonna be the same anyway.Similarly, there's a sort of fetishism for coping with the immorality of this satanic world by claiming "you signed up for it before you were born", often paired with "you knew what was coming and saw your whole life plotted out before you chose to live it".If you know what's coming, and see and from seeing learn every single experience that's coming, you've already experienced everything that's yet to happen which makes the exercise of living that life completely pointless.As such, I'm of the belief that we're all meant to be different.United as singular beings, but individual. Not the same. Not collective. Not cogs in a machine.God made us better than that.He made us like Himself, not like the devil.
>>39140996You couldn’t write a book though. I imagine a lot of you haters are the typical 4chan user, a loserNone of you ever shut on someone and then provide your own work and I think you fail to realize how stupid you often look
>>39128939Sure, he believed it when he said the "elites" were overrun with kiddy diddlers, and lo and behold it starts to leak out a years later
>>39134289Watch he dies like Trevor Moore one day for making meme songs about conspiracies.
>>39135225How are people named Terry so based?
He’s based and would fit in well on this site
>>39128935>anti-reptilian>anti-elites>anti-satanic>anti-pedohe cool with me
>>39128935Freemason
>>39128935He’s legit but I think hasn’t gotten complete access to the sacred records. His claims are so real that he’s seen as crazy and the reptilians are losing power as we speak so he’s going to be okay.
>>39146335This He gets more fans as time goes on and more wake up
He used to put out good information but he’s become a fraud and believes in his own bullshit narratives too much. That’s just part of getting old I suppose.
What's his 3 best books
