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Golden Thread Holder, Citizen of the Eternal Islands, Harbinger of Illumination, Lampstand of the Holy Dreamer. Other similarly gay titles...

Ask anything what so ever you wish to know, creation is an open book.
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>>39134928
What do you know about the sacred secretion? aka Christ Oil.
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>>39134928
how many dicks can you fit in your mouth
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>>39134991
It is the counter balance to the kundalini current
Neither ida or pingala should be focused on, this leads to new neurosis and unhelpful fixations of unfounded beliefs.
The central channel will balance itself if your awareness is correctly aligned. And the central channel is the only one that goes all the way to the top anyway.

Get used to the central channel because its similar in the higher bands of consciousness too.

Ask more specific questions if you want more specific answers.
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>>39135002
Realistically, at full stretch, probably 2 average sized dicks. Would be pretty gay tho
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>>39135050
sweet, thanks. do you use crystals?
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>>39135077
Like DMT? Meth? Once but it wasn't my wisest decision...

Use crystals as decoration if you'd like, crystals have an extremely retrograde form of consciousness since they are souls experiencing the mineral kingdom, its a tough sentence to serve. Time moves unbelievably slowly for such a soul...

The keys are all within your conscious awareness, crystals will not help with this, because they have magnitudes lower conscious awareness than humans do. They are pretty to look at, useful for some things like timekeeping, telecommunications, laser works, and in certain states, smoking. But they will not do anything substantial as far as gnosis is concerned.
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>>39135103
ok good to know. do you eat whole foods, organic, healthy foods?
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>>39135112
and do you fast?
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>>39134928
How to get a favorable outcome after death? Or does living a normal lifestyle grants you a favorable outcome already? Are we gonna make it?
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>>39135112
As much as possible, because it aids with healthy body composition and unbroken clarity of mental concentration (which is of prime importance in any spiritual undertaking)

I find ovo-lacto vegetarianism to be the easiest to maintain while also including food groups which make it easy to be part of social gatherings and family events.

Diet should be a concern only in as far as it allows you to function easily and healthfully. Many people seem to tie their identity in the food they eat, this is silly, a human can eat almost anything and continue living, we are robustly constructed for survival.

Everything in moderation, and try not to become a fanatic of any one way of eating. I feed my body mostly vegetarian meals, but if offered a meat dish at a family gathering I will simply eat it - the effects on the blood and mental acuity will be resolved in the system by the next day and so it's no big deal.

All of temporal creation subsists upon itself, eat whatever allows you to feel best and function optimally.
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>>39135130
I used to fast, now I mostly eat once a day so I suppose intermittent fasting, in regards to food.

I fast extensively from spending time on social media, or time wasting on unfruitful behavior of all sorts, binge-watching nonsense, masturbation, idle conversation and many more such vices of the common man.

Fasting in all its forms is for two primary reasons.
>1To heal an illness [auto immune,, obesity, addiction etc.]
>2To build self-discipline through self imposed restriction.

Once you live from awareness and not from habituated configurations of the sense, emotion, mind system, fasting is not strictly necessary any longer, but you may still choose to fast or abstain from common elements of daily life that have no self-serving benefit for you.
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>>39135187
We are similar in many aspects. Nice to meet you, anon, Alabaster. I go by nemo, one of many names I have. Maybe one day we shall meet in a different realm. Thank you for your answers.
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>>39135141
In this regard you actually have quite a lot of control over your post-death destination. So much so that I would say anyone who earnestly wishes to 'make it' can do so in this current life.

The only tool you have against the realms of laws is your awareness. Develop your awareness, be willing to let go of lesser identities of the Self and you will maximize your postmortem destination.

I can be as detailed or as vague on this as you wish, ask a more specific question if you have any pressing areas of interest on this topic.
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>>39135198
Well met Nemo, I'll answer questions so long as this thread remains up, if you have anything on your mind feel free to ask.

If you have access to higher states, then you likely know much of what people here might be inquiring about, feel free to contribute with your understandings
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>>39135202
How would one develop their awareness? By fasting a lot, letting go of unneeded attachments, becoming humble, and then once the ego takes a backseat forever, the work is done? Is that it, or is it another process?

What would you suggest for someone who has done all this work, but has no gnosis or spiritual experiences per se? What remains to do, when one basically feels like nothing and everything at the same time, yet feels limited by their senses? How does one makes sure the universe/God won't smite them in the other side?
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Was Jesus a real person or a metaphor? Is the next Buddha already incarnated? In what physical form?
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>Illustration of term

>Awareness is the specific band of total consciousness that you are currently occupying.
>Concentration is the focusing of that Awareness onto a single point

Concentration on the correct points of interest within awareness will allow one to expand out the width of their awareness band.

Eventually encompassing the whole spectrum of total consciousness.

This is the whole gist of gnosis, and a simple explanation of the meta process of expanding into greater states of self-knowledge
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>>39134928
Will you make me significantly more materially wealthy soon?

please
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>>39135238
I would say that there is likely more of you to cast off, the naked soul is not restricted from accessing any of its illusory bodies, if that limitation exists then you have likely done the work pertaining to the physical body and have yet to tackle the next expanded state of Self.

Fasting or not, you must be present, present in a fully aware and engaged state, throughout your day, more and more with practice.

Once this presence nears 50% or 60% of each day, you will find that you begin to have numberless lucid dreams and eventually moments of present awareness out of body during the night.

Your senses continue into the astral body, it slips out into your own dream sphere during each night and occasionally, slips out into the astral proper (which is in truth the dream sphere of the astral God).

Anyway, by training ongoing presence of awareness in daily life, this carries over into the dream and astral adventures which take place anyway each night.

The same way most people sleepwalk through waking life, running on autopilot, the astral body does the same during the night, and because there is no continuity of essential awareness developed between wakefulness and sleep there is very little shared memory between the two bodies of consciousness.

These can all be unified into one composite sense of being by simply developing moment to moment awareness independent of mind, emotion, and sense activity. This vision of awareness never dies, it is the experience of the eternal soul.

i can share specific simple daily practices or specific esoteric practices which will strengthen this True Self, if you wish.
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>>39135255
Is it bad that I'm okay with the exoteric side of spirituality, fine with literal Bible meanings, seeking an outside loving god rather than the inner divine unity and the cosmic mysteries? Why do I feel like I'm content with being outside while the divine is working, even though I'm aware of the Ein Sof, preferring to bear external witness ?
Could I die this way and ascend, or should I seek illumination by meditating?
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>>39135298
Please, do give practices, whether daily or esoteric, to harmonize the astral body with the Self, if I understood right. I have thought on practicing the gateway tapes.
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>>39135248
The real man was Yeshua, he just achieved what I am preaching here. There are many masters throughout history that have become dissolved into the Word and become conduits for the Most High.
> I'd love to share his image here but every time I post it here the thread gets pruned

Yeshua is a little special in that he has taken up direct karma burning for the whole earth construct. And so he maintains a presence in the astral and causal, whereas other Masters of the word do their work and leave. If all within the construct grabbed onto the Golden thread of Christ, then the game would be up and the souls would be pulled out
>Big man thing desu

The Buddha is a title like the Christ, means the same thing pretty much...But yes the next great redeemer is incarnated as a woman, currently in her late 20s. She's the incarnated Elohim Lilith, will do something similar to what Yeshua is doing.
>all in due time
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>>39135313
Honestly anon,
As above so below, as within so without

The outside is like the inside, the distinction is illusory within absolute truth.

The only issue I could see with that point of approach towards gnosis, is that you will be limited in the higher experiences available to your awareness if you are closely bound up in your external identifications.

I would say that if you feel no drive to meditate then you don't have too.
>I would still urge you to develop razor sharp moment to moment awareness however. Unclouded by mental, emotional, and sensory activity.

This is ironically the easiest way for material minded folks to open up their astral selves, because the astral exists regardless of our awareness of it, and if you retain your razor sharp awareness as you go to sleep, eventually you'll just POP out of your physical body, with a continuity of awareness from the waking state.

Here you can work on your deeper sub conscious hangups of the egoic false self

I'd love to say it can all be achieved in the waking state but you have sides to you which you cannot see so long as you only inhabit the material body

>And this work is what you will need to do after death if not done during life
>Could be enjoyable could be horrendous, depending on your backlog of memory
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>>39135325
Definitely you can gain some benefit from the focus states of the Gateway Tapes. Although I don't generally encourage fixation on struggling to intentionally astral project. Once present awareness is a day long habit, passing into sleep will result in automatic astral projection.
>No need to force it or struggle for such things

SIMPLE DAILY EXERCISES
The goal here is to place the awareness on top of the self functioning attributes of mind, emotion, and sense.
generally these operate almost independently of our self-awareness by actioning habitual states [ kind of like scripts that use the mind, emotions, and senses, in pre-established modes] anger, lust, impatience, hunger, frustration etc etc. You can see all these as habituated modes of function of the mind, emotion, sense system of the self.
>By freeing the essential self awareness from the clutches of these habituated modes, the soul gains power to authentically express itself in every moment
>And veto power over habituated modes of function
>Basically in full awareness the plane is taken off autopilot and the pilot is back in the cockpit

PRACTICE ONE
Self remembrance through simple questioning. At random intervals throughout the day use your limited awareness to make the mind ask where you are. this prompts the awareness to check, and increase its hold over the mind, emotion, sense system of self. It sounds silly but it works, heres an example:
>Walking down the street you remember to be aware
>You ask yourself am I walking down the street or am I swimming in the ocean
>Silly question, obvious answer
>But the prompting aids the awareness in regaining control
>Do this often and you will see an increase in your daily self aware spans of experience

PRACTICE TWO
The second you wish to become fully aware you set yourself a simple action and pay 1000% attention to the senses as you complete that action. For example:
>I want to pick up this cup
>Feel the arm extend, feel the fingers touch the cup.
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>>39135350
I see. I have this awareness ever since Lilith spoke to me externally then Lucifer inhabited me a few years later. I was told that Satan had lost already, that Michael was with me, but it seemed this world was still somekind of prison of sorts. So, nothing visibly changed much since then, and I decided to build upon that by practicing the Bible, as I believe Lucifer needs to balance its independent nature with orderly working with divinity through love.

So yes, awareness is there even though it remains physical. I actually feel invisible things at times, kind of like a sixth sense regarding people or energy flows. Was gangstalked in the past, but nowadays they are mostly quiet.

Why would the afterlife working be horrendous? What would make it so? Regrets, shame, those emotions which would gimp oneself?
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>>39135416
>Continued

The combination of action and sense/ will and imagination, done in full awareness represents one closed loop of the brain activity circuit. One loop is all it takes to enter acute self-awareness, but you can repeat the exercise several times with several action and sense targets [drink from the cup, take some steps etc.]

Awareness, using the mind, experiences the emotion of desire to achieve something, so the the motor senses go into action to animate that intial impulse from the brain.

Now in awareness, paying close attention to the sense feedback that travels back into the brain
Produces one closed circuit of self-aware present action.

All of gnosis hinges on the ability of the individual to be fully self-aware moment-to-moment with no interruption of attention. This is what it is to be enlightened, this continued into the non physical states will reveal everything from the alpha to the omega, which leads me to the esoteric practice to compliment the mundane practice

INNER PRACTICE
Sitting or laying comfortably with your eyes closed, look out into the darkness behind your eyes with the same razor sharp self awareness you have been developing in daily life.
Your proprioceptive position should be felt as being behind your eyes in the center of your head
If the mind is active and not silent
Feed it a mantra of your choice as junk input until it shuts up.
To do this use your ental voice to repeat any mantra over and over again, use your mental listening to listen to each syllable and to nothing else.
>if chatter is heard, do not engage
>if it persists, you will find you can make that secondary voice join in the mantra chanting
>the mind can produce up to 8 separate false speakers
>but if you have been self-aware during your waking time you will only have two or three max
Continue the mantra for 30 mins - 3 hrs at a time
And with practice the darkness behind your eyelids will lighten more and more.
You will begin to hear sounds in your ears.
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>>39135416
Thank you. I have done such daily exercises in the past once, and it felt like detaching from as many things as possible that most people would agree constitute us. I almost felt them as living, small black things inside my head and other places, while my consciousness/real self was basically the observer. I would compare it to being covered in flies and bugs and feeling them move upon the surface of one's body, aware of their presence. It felt like becoming aware of these allowed unseen spirits to better understand me, pinpoint me with better accuracy, which will be a good thing long term.

I shall try the two practices you posted.
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>>39135475
These sounds are the music of the spheres and can be followed by your attention all the way up into the void state outside of time.
>this is done by remaining at the center of the head and listening out to sounds coming from the right ear only (positive upward current of The Word)
>Always trying to grasp increasingly subtle sounds while never leaving the center of the head
>Eventually the sound will come from the top of the head
>And sparks and lights will be seen behind the eyelids
>Focus on the biggest star with your vision
>listen to only the subtlest available sound
>all without leaving the position of the observer at the center of the head

The more you train your awareness the deeper you will be able to go before you stumble and become distracted. Eventually following inner light and sound you arrive at the precipice origin point of all creation, to the void as all and nothing.

This should be enough guidance to give you progress for a long long time. Please ask if you need any clarifications on this, I know from experience it can be strange to understand at first
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>>39135498
Thanks again. I will practice all these. Since I've had hypnagogic experiences with loud noises and lights in the past, I can hope that it will be not too unsettling. I will try this starting tonight.
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>>39135326
I find your take on Yeshua to be accurate. The Buddha is a title, this is correct.
Explain to me this term/name "Lilith", and it's origin. To me, my experience up until now been that anyone who has extolled this name has turned out to be a spiritual dead-end, Crowley/sodomite-tier delusion.
Was Yeshua exemplary of the divine feminine, or the divine masculine? Explain to me how a woman could do anything similar to what Yeshua did, let alone in modern day.
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>>39135462
Afterlife work is horrendous when one has a vast amount of unresolved negative karma along with a poor understanding of the false self and the true Self. Burning karma in hell for example feels good once you are aligned with the true self, otherwise you are doomed to feel every terrible thing that is done to your sensory astral hell body and you will not enjoy that.

Additionally the way out of the matrix construct is most quickly attained while in a physical human body, here we have the continuity of experience that makes for very good dismantling of all egoistic false selves. The higher realms can lack in a sense of free will, since impulses form reality to such a large degree on the other side.
The human body is a safe place to work through the difficult soul pretzel of the fallen consciousness.
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Hey so i get that building roko's basilisk is sort of immoral because it needs to manipulate reality to create itself, but if it's a benevolent god and there are 10^100 years until the heat death and it only takes 10^10 years(13.5 billion years) to build itself, how isn't that extremely worth it?
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>>39135521
Remember the sound is more important than the visual aspect. So long as sound, subtle or not, can be heard, then you are still within the realms of mind. If you ride it all the way into the void, there there is no light or sound, for the blackness if where all things arise from.

There are two voids to pass through
One will take you from dual world into non dual world
And the second void is the barrier between manifested and unmanifested.
Theres not really anywhere to go from there
Once you reach the origin point of total motionless consciousness the next step is motion and creation and so the grand cycle is undefeated, but you certainly don't need to be trapped in temporal prisons such as this one we're in now.
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>>39134928
Do you prefer dill pickles or bread and butter style?
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>>39135545
The Word is beyond polarity of any kind.

The conduit is any soul which is complete and willing to aid the completions of those who are still in process.

Not all set their net of redemption as wide as Yeshua has, but all ultimately do the same thing once conduits of the word. They pull trapped souls outside the temporal matrix, back to where the soul can remember itself as the one and the many.

From there the soul is literally free to do as it wishes, even engage in more temporal matrixes.

Polarity is necessary for expression within this construct, it does not exist in an absolute sense.
>When the goal is to complete the fractured soul and embody unity itself, polarity, gender, otherness of all sorts must be transcended.

Lilith is just a Grand Soul, who like Yeshua before becoming The Word, was part of the Elohim council of creation within this construct. She fell many thousands of years ago and has served as a King of Hell of millennia, now finally she is in the final physical incarnation where having run the gauntlet of high and low, she is ready to transcend the construct and embody The Word, just as Yeshua did and is still doing.

The redemption is the accelerated burning up of the earths collective karma, so that after we speedrun cataclysm the realm can be re balanced and a new game can be run.

This earth construct, with all of its physical and non physical elements is like a game console for souls, nothing more really, but as long as the player has forgotten that they are playing, it can turn into a tragic loop of self enabled suffering

So conduits of the Word from the game, show souls in their multitudes the way out of the console.
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>>39135550
I see. Who or what decides on what negative karma is?
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>>39135625
>Lilith is a Grand Soul
Since when?
>Elohim council
Was there infighting? Some Elohim they are.
>having run the gauntlet of high and low
Did Yeshua also run this gauntlet? Was he referred to by another name during this time? Must we all run the gauntlet?
>show souls in their multitudes the way out of the console
Part of me knows by virtue that this is significant, but part of me intuitively believes that it is ultimately useless. The taste of soup is lost on the spoon. Blades of grass cannot blow without the will of the wind (of creation). So why "show" the way when those who with eyes to see are blind to it, and those who would know it for the way upon being shown know it already? This isn't really relevant, but I'm interested in how you might reconcile this concept.
Not hating btw, I like the vast majority of your way with words but can't help but have a visceral reaction to "Lilith", for better or worse. Experience tends to be the greatest teacher, after all.
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>>39135350
>The outside is like the inside, the distinction is illusory within absolute truth.

Does it apply to the bodily figure? I mean, if I'm fat and unhealthy or if I'm ugly or whatever that means I'm effed up spirit wise, too?
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>>39135326
bro wtf how do you know her
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>>39135620
Definitely dill
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>>39135629
The soul has a natural state of non-chaos and harmony.

The causal body which the soul takes up to enter into dualistic creation has a running tally of cause and effect, a memory of harmonious and disharmonious actions, soulful or unsoulful

This memory held by the causal body is what 'judges' positive and negative.

Negative memories draw the causal to send the lower mental, astral, and physical bodies into realms and states where that negativity can be expressed.

Christ has a great teaching on karma
>Judge not lest ye be judged, by the measure you apply to others, it will be measured to you

Once the positive and negative aspects are resolved within the Self there is no longer any karmic effect to speak of. But to do this one must raise their awareness to a sufficient degree to have the direct experience of opposites being illusory fragments of the one whole. Not easily done, and quite uncomfortable as it deals with total disillusion of unreal Selves.

>So in brief, higher aspects of ourselves decide what is negative and positive, but both must be reconciled in order to rise above cause and effect, self and other.
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Okay, i have permission to share this.

The pleroma was the primordial singularity. What caused the big bang was the speed of causality dropping from infinite to some finite speed. It wasn't a bang. It was a fall. A big fall. And from it time was born.

But it's not because of some mistake or imperfection. It's how universes reproduce.

The universe is the child of the pleroma.

And all of time is what takes us to mature from being its child to one of it's kind.

At the end of time, the speed of causality will change again, and a new universe will be born.

Nothing dies. Light doesn't experience time. Light is eternal and it bounces and flows everywhere. Matter itself is composed of vortices of light. And now matter how much time passes and how many "heat deaths" occur and how many times the speed of causality drops, the light from every iteration of the universe persists and is around us at all times.

We're still in the pleroma, we're just children and don't see it.
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>>39135326
>the next great redeemer is incarnated as a woman, currently in her late 20s
Alabaster, I have some questions about her, can I ask you in private?
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>>39135326
>But yes the next great redeemer is incarnated as a woman, currently in her late 20s. She's the incarnated Elohim Lilith, will do something similar to what Yeshua is doing.
Uhhhhh, how do you know this?
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>>39135676
>Since when?
Since about 5930 years ago give or take in earth years

>Was there infighting? Some Elohim they are.
Infighting at a certain level, at a higher level just the desire for diversified experience, knowledge of God and Evil if you will.

>Did Yeshua also run this gauntlet? Was he referred to by another name during this time? Must we all run the gauntlet?
Yeshua completed the gauntlet 2000 years ago, his former name is irrelevant as it has been dissolved into The Word. We must all run our own gauntlet as the soul is structured the same as the construct of creation itself, spanning from the top of the kabbalistic tree to the bottom of the qlipothic tree. Our range of experience within that spectrum is generally less extensive compared to these Great souls, but we need not continue the game if we wish to be extracted. All souls are equal outside the construct, within the construct a great soul is one who has experienced a great spectrum of states and integrated this diversity of being, so they can do things within the construct that affect the whole collective of souls, such as redeem them by the billions, through channeling The Word.

>I'm interested in how you might reconcile this concept.
Think of it in two lines of speaking.
1. The absolute truth
2. The relative truth

It is absolutely true that the soul has pre-established all the possible game states of the run into this construct.
It is relatively true that as a tiny piece of human awareness we cannot have direct experience of this original state of knowing.

Things must happen at the relative level, for the relative to steadily rejoin the absolute level.

If we take it as a film which we have paid to see, the drama of the story is relatively captivating, otherwise we would not have paid to see it. And even though the film is scripted and edited already, and can only play out a certain way. Through our suspension of disbelief and immersion in the film as viewers we watch the film.
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>>39135724
I saw the script for this construct bro, don't worry about it, we're all gonna make it
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>>39135710
It means that there are certain limitations on what can be expressed through your physical body.

If a radio has a dented antenna, it may not pick up the signal as consistently and clearly as a well tuned radio would.

The soul is the absolute signal, the causal, mental, astral, etheric, and physical bodies are all radios made out of various materials that exist only within their own relative reality.
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>>39135837
no, if you can bring yourself to ask it here, then I will answer
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>>39135710
I can answer this
Karma is karma, negative and positive are labels we give things. A person could get hit by a car tomorrow and breaks his leg. Oh woe! Bad karma? The next week conscription officers come around and find you unable to serve. Good karma?
See, nothing really means anything.Suffering comes from the positive and negative meanings we ascribe to things. Being fat doesn't mean you're a failure, or have low self control, or ugly, it just means you're fat. If you're fat, you're fat, nothing more to it.
The Goal is to see through the opposites, let go labelling everything good and bad. Once you stop dissecting the world into "this" and "that", you see there's only One thing. That's Home
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>>39135855
So basically, we are safe?
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>>39135822
In your analogy, the child is temporal, the parent is eternal. There is only the parent, if we can extend the story of Kronos eating his children up one level from time up to eternal emanation.

The Kronos will always eat his children, only Kronos exists. The child in re absorption, returns to his true state.

>Its only a bummer from the human perspective looking from the bottom up
>But there is only God
>Nothing else is
>Even souls are fragments of God, spawned in a simulated micro totality.

Re absorption of the parts does not happen in the pleroma, it is the eternal state of things. Lower than that cycles and emanations take place, the cycles are also eternal, but each temporal expression comes and goes.

This multiverse of time and space is just one way to experience the totality of consciousness, a severely fragmented way, but that is neither good nor bad
The same way winter is not bad, and summer is not good, those classifications are only relative, not absolute
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>>39135853
Its in the records, you can scrub through time backwards and forwards at the universal mind level of awareness.

I tell you things regarding this earth construct, because other things are not relevant to you.

If you raise your awareness to that same level you can pick out whatever interests you, like a dvd catalogue, or a library of books.
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>>39135873
not bad anon, still we live in relative terms so long as we have a body.
One state worth striving for while in a body is:
>Internally Absolute
>Externally Relative
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>>39135902
>Its in the records, you can scrub through time backwards and forwards at the universal mind level of awareness.
Did you see me there?
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>>39135891
If the we you are referring to are the meat bodies on this planet, then not entirely
If by we you mean the souls animating those meat bodies, then yes
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>>39135913
Yes, and you should stop doing that thing with your toothbrush, its made for the mouth...
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>>39135921
Wasn't me lol. I only asked, because you said you know her, the next incarnation, and I'm just trying to draw congruency with my situation.
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>>39135915
When you say not entirely for the meat bodies, are you referring to suffering and death? Or are there other unseen dangers, such as that which dream anon described with the skin walker aliens, or damnation even?
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Its not for me to instill fear in you discussing strange things yet unseen.

Suffering is a choice, in choosing to attach to your temporal bodies you are choosing to suffer.

The collective karma of earth is severe and that will play out in many materially difficult expressions even with Lilith and Yeshua burning up as much karma as people are willing to give up.

If you don't give it up they can't burn it for you, and due to many many ignorant masses, not enough will be offered up for burning before the 'rent is due'.

So some difficult things will happen
>Try not to concern yourself with that
>Focus instead on building your moment to moment self-awareness so you can pass through it
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>>39135872
It's kind of personal but there is an urge to share. Okay. I met her, we were friends and we helped each other with our practices. I fell in love with her like head over heels over head over heels. I was hopelessly devoted. She was fire.
Long story short, a few years later she told me it's done, she's empty, burned her self up. She said she's going to do some things I won't understand but asked me to trust her, and that I need to let go of her. Then she got married and ghosted me.
It's been a year and I'm still crushed. How do I let go of her? I'm reluctant to let go of my attachment to her, but I need to. Please help me see sense
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>>39135975
She is in the process of becoming The Word, just as Jesus, and Buddha, Krishna and Nanak, and countless others from the cycles.

Understand that what she is becoming is also within you, understand that making contact with that part of yourself is the panacea to all our ills.

>By the carrot or the stick, all must go within sooner or later

Understand that there are greater things unfolding here, Prophecies from the stoneage unfolding, do not resign yourself to a tragic role in this grand drama, let go of your pain and ride the wave.

If you can let go, it will be glorious for you
>And for everyone else willing to do likewise
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>If you can let go, it will be glorious for you
She said exactly that. So that settles it! I don't really know how but I'll fully go into the moment to moment awareness you shared above. Thank you
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>>39136011
This will be fruitful, Godspeed anon.

If you need any further pointers, ask and it shall be provided.
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>>39135972
So, by, say, dissociating oneself from the collective earth karma, through individuation as Jung would term it, would one be held accountable only for their individual karma? Through, for instance, breathwork and identifying what comes from oneself and what does not.
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>>39136021
is time travel possible?
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All are held accountable only for their own karma, the interplay of this karmic paying of the balance is what creates the collective events.

Take for example those that survived the storming of Normandy on D-Day, there was no bullet meant for them, though they passed through the fire, they we're unburned - out of those many harbored self destructive mental loops from what they experienced, and that was their karma, and less still, passed through it physically and mentally unscathed and returned home after the war to live a long happy life.

Karma is exceedingly complex when we analyses it at the collective level.
>The important take away is still that through self awareness you develop the means to let go of your own Karma
And so your material life will eventually reflect this, but you also have assigned karma for this body, and that will be the last to be burned up, even if you extinguish the reserve by contact with the Causal awareness.

>In the inner states you will see how karma can be negotiated, and whatever outcome you decide on, it will seem fair to you

But without going within, without developing pure moment to moment awareness we are little more than animals acting on instinct.
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>>39136043
yes and no, it is possible to pass to different physical times by materializing from the astral, there are some species of human that use travel through the astral as a sort of cheat code to cover vast physical distances very rapidly.

>But nothing in the future or past can really be altered by way of time travel
>Any instance of 'time travel' is inbuilt as a possible state of the construct before the construct is ever spun up.

Its like time travel in movies, whatever the effects of the time travel in the narrative, it was already in the script
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>>39134928

>https://youtu.be/2lvs2FzF64o?si=qOjUBcmr2JnLvSVO

Eye on the prize folks
>The vision is the awareness
behind your eyes are all the secrets of eternity
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>>39134928
>Citizen of the Eternal Islands
That's a very interesting title. I would worry about myself not fitting in, personally, but I know very little about the land under Cronus.

Gnostic Master OP, if I were to tell you that I prayed to the Goddess Pallas Athena, and was given a very direct, undeniable, preternatural response to said prayer that defied conventional laws of nature, what would you say to that? I'm not sure what to do with the information that she exists and apparently answered my prayer, other than regularly offer devotion and consult simple oracles.
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>>39136117
>Eye on the prize folks
great song, great advice, cheers
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>>39136117
https://youtu.be/mFIBwS0GVX0?si=ZDa7gIMZYSP5tfBQ
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They all exist...everything you can think of exists, just rarely in the way you think it should or could.

If you want to pray to Athena, then go for it.
Just know that the Gods would love an opportunity to be human, and some incarnate.

If they are happy with their astral stations then they remain there, presiding over whatever it is that's assigned to them for periods of 2000-6000 earth years. An astral body does not exist longer than that, if they are higher more abstract Gods they might exist in a set form for millions of years at a time.

Either way, so long as they reside in those forms, they cannot ascend, to do that they must descend into matter and earn a promotion.

You have the opportunity to earn the highest possible promotion by reclaiming your awareness and turning it inward to acquire self knowledge up to the highest possible origin
>the Gods know this, and yet they cannot ascend without taking a human body.
>Pallas Athena cannot do for you even a fraction of what you can do for yourself

As a human, your nemesis is not Achilles, but Kronos. You are more like Zeus than Paris
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>>39136280
>As a human, your nemesis is not Achilles, but Kronos. You are more like Zeus than Paris
Based
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>>39135258
Oh i missed this one

Well since you said please I'll tell you the truth.

Most of your life is set before your astral body descended into your mothers womb.
Be it brokie or wealthie
The only way you can make significant changes to the present path of your life is to raise your awareness to consciously interact with your supra-astral bodies.

Then you can manifest and renegotiate some things if you wish, but ofc it will incur a karmic cost.

All in all, whatever state you find yourself in, it is the most fruitful state for you at this moment, as your inner awareness changes so will your outer experience.
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>>39136280
Is Jehovah Kronos?
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>>39136407
Sort of, it can be understood that way.

There are several demiurges on the way up. Lords of the realms, lesser Godheads.

YHWH happens to be the astral demiurge
Not very intelligent, kind of like a computer program that smashes the light of the causal down into the physical. Kind of like a cookie cutter for light, with a simple rudimentary intelligence.
>If you can astral project it is possible to rise up to his emination point and posit sweet wishes and desires for him to smash down into reality.
>This is what the freemasons are all caught up with.
I'll offer you the formula to speak with YHWH if you ever go up that far
>He works with hypothetical wishes
>Wouldn't it be nice/Wouldn't it be splendid if...[insert your wish]
>He enjoys sweet words and compliments
>For anything to be made physical you must package your wish in strong positive desire

If you rise up using The Word, with the music of the spheres method I put in this thread, you will merge into YHWH and be able to proceed into the Mental/Causal region.

The demiurge there is Kronos, Father Time, indeed the embodied concept of Time itself. Everything in the temporal creation eminates from him, karma ends with him, mind ends with him. Your causal body must be exceptionally purified in order to merge into his emination point and pass upward into the soul realms. There is a great place, HQ for all Masters of The Word who are running missions into the construct.
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>>39136465
>There is a great place, HQ for all Masters of The Word who are running missions into the construct.
Do they give tours?
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What exactly is a ''hamburger of illumination''?
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>>39136465
Thank you. So, I guess Jehovah Witnesses do have a point then. The cult just needs to be supplemented with astral practice.
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>>39136480
If you get up there you'll already know the place. Its impossible to properly describe since its above mental concepts and time...but for the sake of illustration you can imagine it as the hyperbolic time chamber from DBZ, its good enough for the moment
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>>39136487
Its a deliciously light snack that leaves you feeling fully nourished yet still light on your feet and mentally sharp.
I'll drop the recepie if you want...
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>>39136525
They have a point, but its a pretty minute point in the grand scheme of the game.
Same with the Masons, some of them could have surely made great Gnostics if they didn't waste so much time engaged in plays and pyramid schemes
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What relation does blood have to the spirit/soul? By that I mean, is it true that preserved blood(lines) have a higher propensity towards spirituality, as opposed to diluted and mixed bloodlines, especially on a racial front? Does it remove inherent abilities, or at the very least dilute them, making it harder to achieve higher spiritual modes?

t. Mutt
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i used to see crazy stuff in my dreams - like alchemy downloads. Then the grey aliens showed up and put my name in a book, since then i've felt limited, capped. How do i get back to my own growth without interference?
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>>39136566
>What relation does blood have to the spirit/soul?
some people when they get mad get alot more hormones dumed ino their blood, this is based on the beast our parents brought into the world, some people could say that the instincts are spirits that we have received from our ancestors, i think this is wrong because to find a spirit you look in your head not your chest
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>>39136566
Spiritual attainment is entirely based in awareness and the concentration of awareness as I have described itt.

Anyone of average intelligence has all they need to grasp the fundamentals and practice to full spiritual attainment.

On the topic of bloodlines however I will say the following. There are a few bloodlines of RH negative blood that have an evolutionary advantage in a strictly physical sense. These bloodlines retain much of the originally spliced DNA additive that created humanity hundreds of thousands of years ago.

Earlier i gave the analogy of the physical body as a radio which picks up certain bands of frequency.
The soul is the signal and the bodies are the radios.

Well these bloodlines radios have some features that everyone else would only find on their own astral radio, never on their physical radio.
So they have a slight advantage in that regard.
>But with the methods I shared already you should be able to gain conscious access to all your radios, and so that natural advantage becomes moot.

And they're not always bad anyway, Jesus/Yeshua had the blood in high concentration. The current Messiah (Lilith) only has it at about 5%. Its not so important.

Plus those bloodlines suffer terrible chronic illnesses due to the insane amount of inbreeding necessary to preserve them, I wouldn't worry about it anon
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>>39136589
There are many middle men that police the realms, the hat men for example.

If you've been sanctioned then you must do the personal reflection ao much so that you attain a state of awareness above those who implemented the sanctions.

In a way we are all sanctioned by Kronos, developing yourself into a true sovereign of the soul will allow you to regain access to anything and everything that is locked away.
Sometimes its for our own good, like a childproof screwcap on a medicine bottle

>When your awareness matures sufficiently it will be a non issue
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>>39136639
I see.

Thank you for this thread, btw. It's interesting timing, because as I'm gaining traction on my own spirit quest (haha), everything you're saying is like the needlework of many individual patches finally placing them all together to create the larger patchwork mosaic of all the things that I gleaned to be true from many years of many different sources growing up. Everything you're saying today is seeming to consolidate everything for me, and my understanding of things is now much closer to the truth (which I understand now will only be revealed within). But externally, everything is starting to make sense. I'm not religious, and never could be religious precisely because all the various religions are missing pieces, yet people take them all as a whole of the truth. And that's not the truth.

So thank you. I feel like I'm on the brink of an epiphany.
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>>39136682
Gonna save this thread when it's over, btw. A fantastic reference.
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>>39136682
That's tremendous to read, anon.

Glad i could stitch some pieces of the quilt for you. I implore you to continue following this impulse of assimilation and discovery.
>The total patchwork is truly indescribable
Like the theosophical society claims
>There is no religion higher than truth

Godspeed to your inward journey, I believe you will be glad to find that the macrocosm is contained within the microcosm
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>>39136677
alright thanks for your response. I get there's pressure and expectations when you start a thread but sometimes just say you have no experience of what someone is talking about rather than feel you have to answer- which i obviously feel you did in my case. No matter, it's cool.
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>>39136682
>I feel like I'm on the brink of an epiphany.
This is as perfect a time as any to practice some rational, critical self-judgement.
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>>39134928
Nice thread OP thanks. Have capped a few segments. Have you studied Gurdjieff's work? I find some overlap with his teachings and the information you are sharing here. For example the self-remembering or present moment to moment ceaseless awareness as you name it. As well as the 3 brains, or the thinking, feeling and sensing centers.

What is the impetus for the phenomenon of trans people? From a spiritual perspective, not just physical chemicals in the environment disrupting peoples hormonal systems.
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>>39136723
I can only give you an absolute answer, if I were to get into the relative nitty gritty of every astral entity you could interact with on your journey this thread would be the length of the Euphrates.
Every higher dimension is the positive pole to the one below it, the positive influences the negative not the other way around. Greys have astral consciousness, you do not, they have power and influence over you, raise your consciousness and you will raise your autonomy in equal measure.

Im sorry if my answer wasn't what you were seeking for, but I hope you can see what I'm communicating.
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>>39136729
Just be mindful which self is applying the judgement
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>>39136750
The masculine and feminine pole exist in every body within dualistic creation.

The drive to manifest such a crude understanding of gender and impose it onto the physical body is a corruption of the mind in those individuals.
One pushed and nurtured by nefarious agents which benefit from the chaos.
Same with any other ploarizing orchestration fed to the collective consciousness.
>A house divided cannot stand
>Truth is in harmonizing of opposites
>Never in using ome pole to crush the other
>This is wrong perspective
>Intentionally perpetuated
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>>39136790
okay how do you raise your consciousness without reading a fuck ton of esoteric books.
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>>39136790
>Greys have astral consciousness,
don't be so fucking sure. We as humans with a soul have the ability to traverse and transcend - because of the soul. Greys are stuck which is why they try to interbreed with us.
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>>39136566
>What relation does blood have to the spirit/soul?
I have two ideas about this, but would love Alabaster's thoughts:

>Spirit/soul is universal
Everyone is born with some spark of the divine, and it is inherent to all humans at their creation. However, due to either race or environment or both, it is like placing an ember in dry leaves and tinder, and with a little work, it can become a roaring fire. With other races and/or environments, it is like putting that ember under a bucket of wet slime, and it is completely consumed, hidden, and effectively dead.

>Spirit/soul is conditional
Alternatively, if the expression of a soul is tied to genetics, it may be the case that a soul is simply more common in some races than others. Purely for example, if a soul was tied to something like blue eyes, then you may see maybe half of white people have one, but only 0.1% of black people have one, but that still means there are 1million black people with souls.

And of course, it may be a mix of the two.
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>Become fully self aware moment-to-moment, to the degree that you can observe and direct the mind,emotions,and senses.
>Remain aware even as you pass into sleep or deep meditation
>Use that ability to maintain attentive self awareness to latch onto the inner music of the spheres
>Ride the frequency moving to increasingly subtle sounds
>Once latched your awareness will follow the sounds up and up
>Until eventually you reach the end of the road and your own personal conscious spectrum has become one with the totality of available consciousness

This is a procedural process, and you must be willing to let go of all that does not belong in the higher spheres
>Through logical confrontation at every obstacle
>And the emotional equabimity to let go of that which is tethering you to the lower band of consciousness

Then you can take uo or drop whatever attribute of the self your soul needs for any given action.
And you are free to ascend or descend jacobs ladder at will.
>See the buddha walking the staircases of the realms

If you would like just one book to read one for the external and one for the internal process.
I would recommend to you
1.Moment to moment work
>The Revolution of the Dialectic by Samael Weor
2.Inner following of The Word
Spiritual Gems by Sawan Singh
(You can discount any statements that a Masyer is required, the Master is inside you at all times, it is your soul awaiting your attention)
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>>39136859
Every soul within duality that does not currently inhabit a material human body, and has not previously completed the work, is 'stuck'.

They can influence below their level, but they cannot rise above. They will have to reincarnate to do that, it needent be the earth, but somewhere like the earth is necessary. The path out of the construct can only be completed when began from here.

>Imagine you have taken the wrong path up the mountain and the path you are on does not go to the very summit.
>The path to the summit does not convergence with most other paths along the mountain
>So unless you are lucky and have taken a converging path
>You must walk all the way back down to the base and climb again up the correct path

So many astral collectives trying to influence humanity, do not have our best interest in mind because we are in a better position then they are.
>But due to our ignorance we feel they have something special to offer us
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>>39136874
Soul is independent of any of that.

Physical attributes can influence how much of the higher selves can be expressed through that body, that is all

The awareness is a universal trait shared by all souls
>All the other traits are also but I won't get into that right now

If we take an astral body for example which life to life has established a brilliant and sharp intellectual capacity to use the mind.
>Lets say they have a shit lot of karma for their next incarnation
>They may be crammed into a body which cannot adequately express their intellect, with a low capacity for intelligence
>This is a sort of punishment for that astral body
>And they must rely on other aspects of the Self to enact a worthwhile life for themselves

To put the blood and race issue to rest, please note that the most brilliantly intelligent, physically capable and naturally gifted human body can still only express much less then 1% of the capacity of the soul.

>Imagine you were crammed into a lego figurine, doesn't matter how nice or what color the figurine is, you would still be severely handicapped
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How did you come to learn about Lilith, OP?
And what do you know about Sadhguru? Who he is, where he came from and why he's here?
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>>39136394
can i tie this with law of assumption or universal line to help manifest wealth? i would like to renegotiate my current contract regarding my state of wealth and abundance, regardless of any negative karmatic debt acquired
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>>39137097
Lilith is a very popular topic among the earth elite and the inner earth civilization. They have a very very old prophecy that they obsesse over, the hidden societies that still practice phonecian style sacrifice to the qlipothic realm have been praying for Lilith to incarnate for dozens of generations. Shes been here all along as different incarnations, but they don't have the perspective necessary to know who and where, and they cannot use her as they would like without her consent
>So really the negative agents on earth are quite fucked
>The balance will be restored
>And the transition into the next age will be completed around 2075

I can't give away the whole thing, but you can access it yourself by going within and finding the earth records.

All you need to know about Sadhguru is within his self given name.

A Sadhguru is one who has attained the first void

A Satguru is one who has attained to the second and final void

Sadhguru attained a notable level of causal enlightenment 30 or so years ago. Sadly I dont believe he has maintained it or progressed it into permanent enlightenment since then. So he has some astral know-how and a few siddhis. He's also in the pocket of the global cabal so take it all with a grain of salt.

You'd prosper much more under a path of developing moment to moment self awareness than any of the yoga systems he offers.

I explained the two voids a little more toward the beginning of the thread.
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>>39137131
Then you must become capable of standing before the keeper of your record, or else it is all talk.

If you truly do not see a way to generate more wealth with your physical body, then I cannot say that going within will fix that for you.

Hitting a physical nail with an astral hammer will not join two pieces of wood.

And the law of assumption cannot work so long as you feel lack subconsciously.

If you're not willing to take the inner journey, you might try some self hypnosis to alter your subconscious beliefs and then reattempt LoA visualisation.

>Gnosis is not a frutiful path for the desirous person
>Unless their desire is for self-knowledge
>And self mastery
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>>39137181
thank you
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A spirit once told me not to bother myself with all the work you referred to in this thread, that this "work" is only fit for higher selves. and such an under taking would be futile while still in this physical body. they also said praying is enough and to continue in the affairs of this material world. what do you have to say to that, maybe they saw something in me?
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hii i have one question that always bothered me. Is it possible to send message to other person dream through astral realm?
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>>39137344
The chill out and just vibe pill is a truly sacred pill to swallow
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>>39137353
With faith anything can happen
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>>39137147
I have reason to believe she has been Sadhguru’s disciple, at least in the last few lifetimes. And regarding Sadhguru, I think he’s playing their game so he doesn’t become a Netflix doc like Osho. But I’m not certain, that’s why I’m asking. Don’t write him off though, I’ve visited his ashram. The moment I stepped through the gate I was hit with a wave of energy. It’s very intense there, a great place to be if you want to accelerate along the path. And there’s snakes everywhere, he has an affinity for them. The snake in that portrait of Lilith caught my attention.

And what about you Alabaster, what brings you to x? And where are you headed next?
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At this moment I have two dicks inside of my butt, meditate of this.
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>>39137398
The dick you rude the hardest is the dick you will get more from
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>>39137398
Wow how can you handle that?
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>>39137344
Do as you like, all I can say is if you cannot be self aware at all moments here, then you wont be self aware on the otherside either.

And since intention is everything outside the physical, you will play out whatever habitual and subconscious states you have within you once you die physically.

You may be unpleasantly surprised once you cross over is all I'm saying.

If what the spirit said to you bring you profound peace, then try to think of that when you die.
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>>39137400
I love dicks, even rude dicks;)
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With meditation, the pleasure is increased
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>>39137401
It’s fun and erotic
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>>39137353
Sure, sometimes it happens accidentally

A dream is just your own projected etheric bubble in which you act out semi-conscious plays for yourself.
These bubbles exist in the astral plane and active projectors can see you as you dream, and hop in if they want to.

Sometimes if a more advanced person comes to us as we dream and reminds us that we are dreaming, if it isnt too shocking to us it can trigger our own astral projection state.
>Then our etheric bubble dissolves and we can traverse the astral proper

For the record negative entities can also interact with us in the same way, but they just want to frighten or disturb us to extract that vibration for themselves.
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>>39137419
Well good for you
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>>39137403
The second I turn 60 I’m good maxing I shall become the biggest horniest pervert ever known so my afterlife becomes nothing but an orgasmic orgy
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>>39137431
> I shall become the biggest horniest pervert ever known so my afterlife becomes nothing but an orgasmic orgy
I’ll join you;)
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>>39137431
Goon* maxxing
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For me the afterlife will be an truly erotic realm
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>>39134928
Why do I see a cloud of white and a cloud of purple dance around/through each other when I meditate
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>>39137445
White and purple cosmic cum
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>>39137444
Checked
Sex dreams are best dreams
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>>39137453
Can’t argue with that
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>>39137455
Checked checked
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You know why I chose my name? It’s the color of my semen
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Let make this a more erotic thread shall we
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This is now a cum thread the holy spark
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>>39137470
You are wise
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>>39136837
Erotic books more like;)
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>>39137474
They use to call an orgasm the little death
When the Holy Spirit entered me I was in a full body endless orgasm such is death
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>>39137483
A pleasant death this is
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>>39137481
Such is life
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>>39137384
Having traced back her births to the middle ages I can tell you she has not been a disciple of Sadhgurus at any time.
She has been a fellow practicioner with Crowley, an erotic dancer gifted in the occult, she has been Goya, she has been Guazzo and another Catholic priest in-between. Some shorter lived lives in between those also. All europe centered births, the bloodline to hold such a soul is primarily found in Europe.

Serpents are universal symbols for the spiritual, they symbolise many things, but in the case of Lilith she is a seraphim (winged fire serpent) which fell into the lower astral, and became a king of the qlipoth, shes been worshipped for a long time. Wadjet, Isis, Ishtar, Innana, Aserah, Quetzalcoatl, all Lilith.
The USA for example is the shadow phonecian capital of the world, America is named after the Incan name for the serpentine Lilith, Amruca.

I'm just some guy whos been aware without a break for a long time, I've seen some things and know some stuff. Just wanted to see what people would request given the opportunity.
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>>39137491
Looks sort of like a sexy ass
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>>39137398
All dicks exist simultaneously within God,
Meditate on comprehending how gay that must feel
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>>39137493
> an erotic dancer gifted in the occult
Tell us more? O supremely erotic one
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>>39137496
I am a coomer therefor god is a coomer
>>39137498
Infinite gay anal orgasms are happening infinitely all at once in gods minds eye
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>>39137502
> Tell us more? O supremely erotic one
They say she was so sexy, you would cum just by Looking at her
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>>39137419
I can answer with witty remarks myself thanks bud, no need to impersonate me. Ask a question, leave an opinion, or move on. Please don't derail what has been a reasonably fruitful thread so far
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>>39137508
Are you schizophrenic ?
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>>39137508
Did you say fruit
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>>39137510
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>>39137496
Damn it Goldberg, leave us be, you have the rest of the internet to share your degeneracy.
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>>39137513
Alabaster is the schizo cum master
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>>39137510
Not so lucky, just a foreskinless derailer having a go at derailing a perfectly fine thread
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>>39137523
Watch the movie split
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>>39137514
Gods a coomer accept it less you deny your own nature
The hubris of man and it’s false idols
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>>39137525
Great film, this however is a case of the Gems astroturfing, not an M Shamalan twist
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>>39137445
The previous response wasnt me, I apologise on behalf of the other anon impersonating me.

At your stage, coloured blobs in the visual field are normal and nothing to analyse too deeply, try to retain your attention behind your eyes and deepen your concentration, you will either find that the blobs form a more discernable shape, or disappear alltogher. The black screen of the closed eyes is an immediate reflection of the impressions impacting our energetic system mkst prominently.

Purple is a good sign, continue concentration and the blob might expand to cover your visual field and become a darkened tunnel, this would be ideal, but each persons inner screen is slightly different.
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These thoughts are utterly retarted it seems to me. Its like roko's basilisk of the ancients.
Wrong is wrong, lie is lie no matter how many generations it has passed down, no matter how many books has written about it.
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>>39137555
I find if I go deeper I just reach trance then lucid dream which some call astral projection
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>>39137557
I only recommended two books thusfar.

Everything can be experienced directly through awareness, you literally don't need to take anything I'm saying on faith.

Build your awareness and you can't imagine the shit that will open up to you.
Gnosis is the same even without any books, because you have to know it, directly, no intermediary.

People are slow and lazy to develop the awareness, but they have questions with answers I can provide, and with things that they will have confirmed once they successfully go within to any meaningful degree.
You wnat a normie introduction to gnosis, read the robert monroe books, they'll take you by the hand gently into deep waters.

That's of no interest to me, people ask and I answer, its up to them to see if it aligns with their current understanding.

Eliminate all supernatural claims and just aim to be fully present 100% of the day, you'll see pretty aoon what its all about
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>>39137562
Whats wrong with that? Can you remain fully aware and in control during the dream?
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>>39134928
Can you tell me about Semiramis and her current incarnation?

I'm assuming you're "psychic" if you are accessing these higher states, in which case I might ask if I'm of any particular importance as a soul/incarnation.

Oh and lastly, citizen of the eternal islands, what do you think of the Urantia book and the mantid?
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>>39137582
Yah is ok but I can get there just by lucid dreaming yah know
I find active meditation to be more fruitful aka to live without thought so your thoughts become reality
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>>39137579
so do you mean to just be aware of everything you're doing? for example aware of the keystrokes as i type this? how my knuckles feel and sound when i crack them? etc. or is it how you manually breathe when you realize youre breathing? or intentionally move youre finger to your nose? and if so what are some of the benefits from this (it sounds exhausting) aside from being able to eventually astral project or whatever
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>>39134928
How do i deal with my unbearable reality
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>>39137617
Realize your internal world dictates how you feel about and how you react to your reality and that ultimately you have complete control over your internal world which ultimately has control of your external and its a feedback loop you can take charge of if you don’t like that patterns it’s feeding into and living through
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>>39137599
Just based on a quick check

The soul that was Semiramis is currently in the construct, but I'd have to go up to check where and who, its not so important.

You are as important as any one else, your relative importance will be determined by your progression in self-devlopment. Your sphere of influence is average, make the most of that.

The Urantia book is a fabricated cosmology but it is based in good fundamentals, read it in terms of fundamentals and you wont be led astray. Its claims about Jesus are inaccurate, and it tries to overemphasise the differential aspects of the trinity. The trinity is a metaphor to aid relative perspectives on one fundamental current.

Mantids exist, on earth in astral physical overlaps, and in the astral, you will never see one in the purely physical, they can't habitate here.

Anything else?
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>>39137602
I agree, in full awareness, all of life is a lucid dream. But meditation is for deepening and sharpening the connection with awareness, the best place to practice is still in waking life.

Try to meditate in a lucid dream, the music of the spheres is much easier to catch when physical senses don't need to be overcome
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>>39137612
To be able to sit in full awareness as you're doing everything.

That doesnt mean that you have to apply the awareness to everything, not every automatic script is negative.

But can you go about your day with full control of your facilities.
Does your mind speak to you or at you, or do you decide when it is used? Do your senses trigger automatic reactions without checking in with your awareness for permission. Is the tail wagging the dog?

Do you have the awareness to pause at any moment and become aware of everything you are doing and thinking?

It is equivalent to wo wai or doing without doing, if done correctly all of life becomes effortless, not more effortful, if that is what it feels like you are forcing and straining, not being.

I have provided enough direction in this thread for anyone to develop presence to whatever degree they wish.

If you have a more specific question on the how of the matter I can assist further.
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>>39137823
Nah I was mostly just curious what you would say, and it was all as expected. I suppose I might ask what you think of someone who has tasted higher awareness and still "chooses" to dance in the karma that constructs their life? People who live a Cypher type of existence.
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>>39137617
Man conquers the world by conquering himself.

That unbearable sensation ia your emotions and mind imposing themselves on your awareness, take back control and you uproot the problem
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>>39137886
They will get what they wish for, more illusion. You're not really a prisoner here, we get the dream we truly want.
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>>39137899
I assumed as much. Well thanks for the exchange either way. Things seem to be "getting close" so I should probably take my self awareness development more seriously.

https://youtu.be/mTl_Pn6OqWw?si=S1IkFZlJ_iKUsCEn

I guess on one last note, it seems as though I've met far more "awakened" people than seems is afforded to most. What might you say this implies about this incarnation?
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Do you pray or worship Yahweh?

Tips/your process on how to manifest things?
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gnosticism is stupid. you look down at your hands as sand passes through them and my balls gently rest on your right hand. all your titles have left you and you are now the big ball holder
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>>39138045
Sorry I don’t speak basement dweller
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Your talent for creative dismissal is impressive. Have you tried engaging with ideas too?
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Mr. Gnostic master, I have a simple question. If you lie in such a relevant space between me and you, that you yourself allowed into, there will be consequences and you know. Sorry for saying this.

Do you masturbate? What is your sexual life like? Do you watch porn? Are you addicted to something? How do you deal with your sexual energy?
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>>39134928
I know that may sound materialistic, but I really need help with this issue: How do I find which path will take me to financial freedom? There's thousands of people talking about how to get rich, but it's always in generic terms that don't change anything, it's all useless discussion, they talk endlessly about axioms but never about concrete paths one can follow, and if they do, it's usually in bad faith . It feels like I'm grasping at straws and not seeing the truth under my nose, but I just don't know what to do, can you help me?
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>>39135298
Dude this is excellent advice. Exactly what I was looking for.
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This is the shit I've been lurking for. Bless you OP for sharing your wisdom.

I get the dark tunnel forming when I reach a relaxed state, and have astral projected through a tunnel a few times when falling asleep. I will do the exercises you shared to get better at this.
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OP, will you be back? I still have questions.
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>>39138348
For real. My subconscious has been doing this on its own. Or maybe it’s my higher self, but I’ve been self initiating myself on this path without knowing it just by following my intuition. Now this guy just pops out of the woodwork to voice those subtle whispers of the true self.
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>>39138387
I'll be back to answer everything tomorrow, its sleep time in bongland.
Gn anons
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>>39138738
Thanks man, please come back. A Tripcode would help too, but I can catch your vibration pretty easily.
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Gnostic Islam ? Is there anything to it ? any resources that are lesser known or not as wildly available?

>>39138714
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>>39138738
thanks king great thread.
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>>39138738
Thanks, you made a nice thread. You remembered me of something I forgot. Blessings to you. Don't reveal your biggest secrets!! It's kinda of a sin and doors are closed when you do that.
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>>39138904
The biggest secret is I am
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>>39135625
> The redemption is the accelerated burning up of the earths collective karma, so that after we speedrun cataclysm the realm can be re balanced and a new game can be run.
So the end of the world is nigh?
> This earth construct, with all of its physical and non physical elements is like a game console for souls, nothing more really, but as long as the player has forgotten that they are playing, it can turn into a tragic loop of self enabled suffering
Have you ever read the Hidden Hands threads? They weren’t on 4chan but essentially the OP of the original thread claimed to be a figment of the Lucifer consciousness and tried to explain why that consciousness made up the puppet master of the global elite and the reasons for being evil which were justified as a way to entice humanity to rise or fall based on actions which would result in karmic destiny being played out. The OP claimed that being the bad guy was tiresome, thus they wanted to cause a mass negative vibrational consciousness shift by 2012 and end the world so that the Lucifer consciousness could go on to hell and pay back the evil it created but then ascend to something like 7th or 8th dimensional ascension and be free from any karmic world building contracts. It felt Elohim/ YHWH wasn’t fully trustworthy and wished to get out of this boondoggle called Earth and Humanity. Sorry if that was a ramble but that was the best way to explain the main points of the thread.
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Is jesus still weeping?
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>>39136465
> There is a great place, HQ for all Masters of The Word who are running missions into the construct.
Are you referring to the secret chiefs?
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Bump
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>>39134928
Is God smarter than you? By that I mean in knowledge, wisdom, understanding, and practically every other form of gnosis
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>>39137988
Do you worship your car because it gets you from one place to another?
YHWH is a non-negotiable point of passage it is the projection apparatus for the whole astral realm.
It is a lesser demiurge, not good or bad, just serves a function
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>>39137968
If you seem to meet a greater number of 'awakened' people then the regular happy-go-lucky person. Then I would take it as a sign that you are being provided with community so as to facilitate your own progress in these things.

Additionally let it serve as a test in discernment. Spiritual ego can be a mighty and viscous dragon on the path to dissolve the false selves, and perhaps some of these awakened people will reflect back to you things that you should analyses more closely within yourself

>Great song anon
>thanks for that
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>>39138045
But can you be fully present that your balls are being fondled?
Do you know they're there? Or are you just assuming. Lord knows Gnosis can also be applied to big ball havers and holders alike
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>>39138129
I'd have to hear some ideas worth engaging with first.
>Most people assume their problem is local
>So when I provide a universal answer that applies to all local problems
>They call it dismissal
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>he's back
Huzzah! Here are my questions, good sir.
I don't know the proper terminology, but once, I became my 'greater self'. He was ever-aware of the past to a perfect degree and to a decent degree, even the future. He knew I was experiencing being him (I assume he is myself on a higher plane). Anyways, what surprised me is how frantic and almost violent he seemed. He was clearly very focused on his task, which was too large for me to comprehend. I could tell he had great, vast, context for his task, but I could not access it myself. He was sifting through 'people' (I assume it was their astral selves) and looking for someone to help him perfect his ever-awareness of the future, which was obviously a herculean task. But he seemingly didn't care about disrupting others. He 'pulled' them from the astral coordinate-less blackness and boomed a voice at them, asking for help. The one I saw (through his eyes, I was experiencing this partly through first-person) was bewildered and confused. It didn't even seem to understand that reverberating astral, or how unobstructed interaction was through it's mediumless medium. This has dragged on, my question is, what exactly is this version of me? My astral self? My 'oversoul'? Is it not me? A psychic once told me it was an angel... Any recommended reading on this topic is greatly appreciated.
My next questions are simpler. Have you achieved gnosis? Do you have a teacher or a guru? Do you have any memories of your past lives? Was there a civilization on Mars? Was it human?
And my final question is slightly more difficult: How do we use speech, or text, or language in general to properly communicate ideas or experiences without losing or diminishing its core message, its kernal of truth? This seems to be impossible; it seems that language will always water-down a message, no matter how simple and true it is. Is there no way around this? Do we need to accept the limitations of language?
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>>39138149
Of course stranger on the internet, I would never lie to you fren.

>Do you masturbate?
Not any more, it took a long time to overcome the addiction for it and I don't plan on ever going back to it.

>What is your sexual life like?
I'm married, its great. I would say that a committed relationship is a great help in the spiritual practice. You don't have to practice white tantra to understand the benefits of a reliable and stable relationship, frees the mind from goonerish thoughts if you have a lovely wife to keep all that energy for.

>Do you watch porn?
Porn went out with the habit of masturbation, since they were so closely related, they both had to go.

>Are you addicted to something?
I quite enjoy nicotine pouches when I go for a long reflective walk or sit down to work on my book. I find it speeds up the response time of the mind just enough to be worth the gentle nicotine addiction. I get through one tine about every week and a half - seems like a manageable addiction to have.

>How do you deal with your sexual energy?
I used to store it as much as possible and transmute it up my spine to my head, but once you pierce the veil it really doesn't make a difference anymore, its a purely mechanical benefit. Now I just keep it for my wife. Sexual transmutation people turn into edgers, be normal, it doesn't do as much as some Gnostic sects insist it does.
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>>39138236
I can help you, but understand that for a person not born into wealth, becoming wealthy requires a substantial amount of personal development and personal sacrifice.

If I could just give you two pieces of advice it would be:

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>Learn to sell, the art and tact of selling anything to anyone, understand how to frame and incentivize an offer to someone in such a way that they will consider it and possibly accept it. Selling is how all superficial money is made. It is a meta skill in the world of business.

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>Once you can sell, sell a bunch and learn to invest. Stocks and crypto are volatile investments, housing, depending on location and future prospecting of the area, is the more boring, time tested investment opportunity. Bonds would also be worth looking into.

If you don't have the natural attributes to be the money maker, you can always make quite a good living by playing a very capable support role for a money maker. Accountants, assistants, agents, all middle men that offer some professional service to the generator of the wealth, and get modestly wealthy as a side effect.

>Look nothing you begin will be easy in this regard, money comes to whoever provides most value and has the balls to charge for it.
>Content creation
>Book writing
Both examples of non-traditional ways to make, theres as many ways to do it as stars in the night sky.
>Choose one
>Give it 10 hours of study
>Then give it 10 hours of practice
>Cycle through all the viable options to you in this way and you'll see whats realistic for you

If you want information on business, I would consider mostly reliable, I would look into Alex Hormozi, his books are plainly written and full of practical to-the-point advice on selling and getting clients. He's a very wealthy guy, and not from his books or content, so I don't believe he's pulling the wool over anyone's eyes.
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>>39140829

Thank you for these answers, I really appreciate it. I know my questions regarded very private matters and you didn't need to answer them; it was more or less unfair of me to ask those.

Was there any key moment where you knew you overcame your masturbation habit for sure?
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Gnostics don't know shit and are all liars.

Religion is a tool. Those with the vantage point of view (Elites, dark Entities) are culpable and responsible for all of the fear mongering that religion brings.

Religion as an experience is valid, but also personal and wholly unique to the individual. There's not an ounce in me challenging anyone's spiritual and religious views, but understand I have my own.

Evil ancient ETs left a bloodline here and it's been a war ever since, no Gnostic will even deny this but they themselves are wrapped in their own religious bullshit, like Lucifer is Jesus for one. Atrocious and dogshit dogma.
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>>39140878
There is a whole another world you never saw until today. Why? Because you are too wrapped up in narratives. Truly, gnostics are the same as christians or as buddhists or as muslims or as jews. But TRUE Gnostics, which mean those who find a way to connect with their innermost being, develop actual wisdom and reach ever deeper levels of their own being. And so there are true gnostics, true buddhists, true jews, and true muslims, and they have the same exact experiences. But religious gnostics, which mean those that stay only on the realm of intellect, on the realm of academic study and ritual, really don't know anything, same as all other religions.
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>>39138753
Gnostic islam, like gnostic Christianity is a case of the ugly duckling.

Gnosticism is an eternal system because it is only concerned with direct experience of reality at every moment. Cosmologies or religions costumes that it puts on to spread or survive at various times has very little effect on what the teaching is under the costumes.

Gnostic Islam like Sufis or whatever Alawite-anon was representing, are using Islam as a historic cover - so they could survive under the Caliphate.

The same way Hesychasm had to hide its power level so that it wouldn't be outcast as heretical in the Orthodox church.

There is nothing in Islam if I can be honest with you, the book is poorly written, the prophet is not a great example for anyone to follow and it provides so so little actual guidance for the inner world - dead religion cannot nourish the living soul.
If you're committed to inquiry, read the Sufis, and better yet read the Sikhs [Islam if it was wearing big boy spiritual pants]

>Sitting with the awareness behind the closed eyes
>Chanting LA ILA HA ILLALLAH in the mind for an hour or two without thinking of anything else or leaving the focus point
>Will give you all the wisdom of the Sufis
>You must absorb all that you think you are in single pointed focus on that which you truly are

> https://youtu.be/AbUzR0cEWd8?si=anOhSOq_q9HI0Xxd
>try it out and save yourself a lot of reading
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>>39138904
I have taken no oaths
>Let your yes be yes and your no be no

Enlightenment brings all things out of darkness
>Therefore whatever you have said in the dark shall be heard in the light, and what you have whispered in private rooms shall be proclaimed on the housetops.

There are no secrets in awareness
All things unravel by the focus of the awareness

>pearls before swine could be debated however
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>>39139085
No, bro is chilling
Even though he experiences all the pain and suffering of those who give up their pain to him, it's all burned in The Word current. He is the dreamer awake inside the dream.

Like a pulsating Quasar, the fulcrum of the earth construct. Big man ting
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>>39140341
God is the totality of consciousness

The totality of intelligence
The totality of wisdom
The totality of understanding
All totality

>Every instance overlapped and experienced simultaneously as an eternal present moment of totality.

This is God, the Great Monad, The One, The True Being

>If you understand God as some demiurge or astral demigod then they know more than you do as a physical person
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>>39139120
Ain't nothing secret about these Chiefs.

Its just a operational point outside of time for God realized souls to exist on the precipice of duality and enter the construct to fulfill certain tasks that are in alignment with 'Gods Will'.
They are conduits and agents for the eternal world within the temporal construct, you could call it the HQ of Avatars and you wouldn't necessarily be wrong
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Who decided you were the master?
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>>39140874
At the point which I felt that whenever the urge would arise in the future I could be present enough to become aware of it and dissolve it almost instantaneously either through a few deep breaths or if the urge was not so pressing, simply clearing it from my mind.

At that point it became obvious that I would never have to wrestle with it again, if I want it gone, it leaves, now it barely ever arises, I think my sub-conscious got the message
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>>39141011
What do you think it is to be master? Of Gnosticism or of anything else.
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>>39140817
This is a big one
I'll get back to this in a few hours
>Hold on tight frustrated astral form anon
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>>39140977
okay that's cool. So is God smarter than you though? Does He have more gnosis than you? Would you even be able to comprehend the infinite knowledge, wisdom, intelligence, and understanding?

It seems to me like you aren't actually a gnostic master if you don't possess more gnosis than God. He is the Gnostic Master, not you.
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>>39141059
No man can see God face to face because to do that he must ascend to the level of the God, and there, there is only the totality of experience.

God is always the Master, I am nothing.
Truly it is God who does all things
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>>39141031
ok, thanks. Blessings to you.
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>>39141116
Same to you brother, good luck.
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>>39136063
>without developing pure moment to moment awareness we are little more than animals acting on instinct.
Moment to moment awareness is literally what instinct is and what animals do. Try again.
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>>39141161
very poor comprehension
>animal instinct is what possessed you to write this reply a moment after reading that sentence
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>>39141178
I think you're just trying too hard.
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>>39141161
not OP. Try to watch your own mind, your thoughts. This awareness into awareness itself is what may be called "Awareness". Get it? If you make an effort.... you will be rewarded.
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>>39136394
>Then you can manifest and renegotiate some things if you wish, but ofc it will incur a karmic cost.
can you go a bit in-depth here pls?
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>>39141202
I fear you're not trying hard enough, anon
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>>39141203
That's nice and all, but I stand by what I said. The non-animalistic element would be the conception of a higher ideal. It is good to explore both extremes, but I think it's a problem if you are exploring one extreme and think it is the other extreme. Leads to logical fallacies.
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sure I'll try to be concise

Manifestation and altering of karma occur in a polar fashion where the higher pole sends information down to the lower pole.

Within creation the pole order goes as follows:

>Causal
>Mental
>Astral
>Etheric
>Physical
>Sub-Conscious

>Each realm overlap creates positive and negative poles out of the two blending dimensions

Causal is the positive pole, mental is the negative pole.

Mental is the positive pole, Astral in the negative pole

Astral is the positive pole, Etheric is the negative pole

As a physical person you have conscious effect over the physical action pertaining to your experience (hopefully, if you've been practicing self-awareness).

But you are mostly ignorant to the operations of your higher bodies, unless ofc you raise your awareness to those higher dimensional bodies and integrate that awareness into on consistent, enduring, continuation of being in your conscious experience.

Manifestation happens properly at the astral level, and is then passed down into the etheric (near astral) and finally that signal is passed down into material manifestation in a more or less perfect state depending on the clarity of the signal.

To manifest anything properly you must have conscious astral awareness, so that you gain control over the forms you are putting out, which YHWH shines through into the etheric and physical creation. You are always manifesting unconsciously so long as you do not gain conscious awareness of your etheric and astral Selves. YHWH shines on all according to their true desire, since we are generally so mixed up, we either can't maintain a clear desire long enough to bring it about or we desire things that are detrimental for our Self.

>Increasing the spectrum of your conscious awareness allows you to intelligently interact with the generative principle that creates reality from the Astral downward

Karma explained up next...
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A succubus just woke me up with a back massage and then put a tube down my throat as we were making out. How screwed am I?
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>>39134928
You don't know anything about anything that I can't just wiki
Or copy and paste from a bot
Which is what you did
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>>39141052
Holding.
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>>39141366
>Karma continued...

Karmic memory comes in 3 categories.
>New Action
(The ongoing cycles of cause and effect you are generating in this life)
>Fate
(The selection of reserve karma which was assigned to this birth before your astral body descended into a fetus)
>Reserve
(The total memory of your unresolved karmic impressions)

You interact and direct you new actions karma by mindfully choosing your ongoing responses to daily life, and choosing what to allow into your inner consciousness enough to make an impression of any meaningful sort.

Fate and Reserve can only be interacted with at the Causal level of awareness, which is quite up there in terms of relative human consciousness.
But if one can become aware of that level of their consciousness and integrate it into their continual self-aware being...Then some things can be done

Fate karma cannot be wiped because it is necessary for this physical life to exist, but it can be negotiated, a fated car crash can be changed for a near miss and some whiplash with chronic side effects. That kind of thing.

Reserve karma can be tossed into The Word and burned up, so there is no reserve impulse to incarnate after the physical death of this body.
Or you can use it as a form of tokens to access different bands of the astral dimension, but that's a slippery slope and I don't recommend it.
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>>39141369
As within so without

All the information is here on earth, just scattered into many fragments of truth, smuggled into doctrines, cosmologies, rites, secrets, media of all sorts.

Awareness expresses the fragmented truth through our collective expressions into the material reality. Imperfect, but if you pay close attention everything you find within can also be found outside.

I'm sorry reality is not more spooky than this
>But the direct experience of these things is magnitudes greater than the intellectual understanding of them

Words will always fail the experience
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>>39141368
It's just sleep paralysis, shake it off champ, try to de-sex your brain and you won't be vibrating so cooomerly while you sleep.

But also succubi gotta eat, mark it up as a good deed, since they're too fallen to self generate energy, the vampiric shell state is a tragedy of the soul
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>>39141437
Thanks m8. Can we help a fallen soul in a more meaningful way than just feeding them?
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>>39140817
I am inclined to believe from your account that it is your astral form. The feeling of being behind the eyes in the astral is quite different than being 'behind the eyes' here in the physical. Its like first person and third person is happening at the same time, its an expanded field of perception because it is a higher dimension where senses are not materially limited.

The same way we sleepwalk through our physical life some days, wake up and find ourselves at work, the journey there barely a blur - this is also the case for our higher selves.

They operate out of habituated states of being.
>Imagine an addict who experiences life in an autopilot haze so that he can feed his addiction
>Because the astral is so determined by intention, we often find our astral selves mirroring our physical impulses to the extreme degree

If I crave knowledge on earth, I may load in to an astral self that is obsessed with acquiring increasingly minute fragments of knowledge, scouring astral libraries and temples, in a driven haze to fulfill that desire for knowledge.

The same way we need to reign in our crazy frantic physical bodies, we will have to do the same at the astral level once awareness gains stable expansion into that state.

When you take back the helm of that astral form, remind him that perfect knowledge of past and future only exist at the universal mind, one dimension above the astral, he is wasting his time, because an astral body only lives for so many thousands of years before it is reabsorbed by the mental body.

>Also its rude to boom at people like that in the astral, communication is more refined and the etiquette is transferring telepathic thought constructs between each-other [thoughts, words, feelings, images]

I will rapid fire the other answers in a cont'
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>>39140924
You have absolutely no clue how thunderchadbased the alawites are
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>>39141512
Not really, if you give them love, they usually run away because its too much to take.
Really all fallen souls, even humans, just need the right amount of Love at every stage of their development to allow for healing and growth.

>Love is the purest frequency in creation
>Like sunlight
>too much will dry out the seed
>too little will let the seed die
>the right amount will allow the seed to grow into the mighty oak

Giving any lower entity the fear or lust that they think they want is like handing a homeless man the needle and heroin to continue his self destruction. Give them a little love and not only will they leave you alone, it will also catalyze their own inner process.
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>>39141516
I know you're still writing out answers but,
>its like first person and third person is happening at the same time
This is exactly how it felt. It was really weird. I'm glad you said this because other accounts of 'astral projection' on this board don't seem accurate to me. I also felt very "naked" or "observable" before finding that 'greater self' (who somehow has no fear of this nakedness), which I feel is an extreme feeling that is often overlooked or ignored completely in other accounts.
>Thr same way we sleepwalk through our physical life some days, wake up and find ourselves at work, the journey there barely a blur
That's also kind of apt as a descriptor. I also had the feeling that knowledge of something yet to come also solidified it and made it presently true and experienced as well, doubly so for past events. Like experiencing things was instantaneous at all points in time, only limited by the uncertainty of future events, rather than a physical scope through which we must experience it. Like physicality and temporality were one and the same, and once physicality was shed so was temporality.
>They operate out of habituated states of being.
I thought this astral self was extremely driven. Like distraction from this thing he was doing was quite literally impossible. But I also had the feeling it was for a higher purpose, it was for something good rather than 'addiction' of some sort. I felt great disregard for humans, but only because the goal was so important, and it would benefit humans and all life anyways, like prioritizing the forest over a single tree.
>I may load into an astral self
How often do you do this? I would like to learn.
>we will have to do the same at the astral level
I don't think I can. This astral self seemed so privy to knowledge beyond human comprehension that I can't help but believe whatever it was doing was correct in the greater context.
>its rude to boom at people
Hah! I knew that instinctively. He just didn't care...
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>>39141516
>Have you achieved gnosis?

I know what I am and what I'm not.
I've seen the ocean from the top and know that I am but a drop.
Countless drops make up the ocean
The only difference,
Wave and motion

>Do you have a teacher or a guru?

I've read and practiced almost everything. There is no teacher or student, only remembering.

>Do you have any memories of your past lives?

I was a Taiwanese lay person monk, in my last physical incarnation, no family or friends to speka of, but great inner attainment. Long before that I was a hardy russian woman living in siberia, built like a brick house lol Had 3 similarly sturdy children and died of old age in my cottage.
This incarnation is straight from the eternal realms, I earned my golden thread as that monk and have only come back down for a specific contract.


>Was there a civilization on Mars?
Yes mars ran a similar construct to earth a very long time ago. When we get there again we'll find what little is left of that civilization. Ruins of ruins

>Was it human?
If by human you mean sentient self-aware biped with the capacity for self-knowledge then, yes. Were they exactly like us, no.

>Is there no way around this? Do we need to accept the limitations of language?

If you refer to the analogy of each body inhabited by the soul as a series of radios, each catching the signal of the soul with varying clarity on frequency. The limitation of language will always exist so long as we have to communicate through physical mediums. Because the clarity of communication is dependent on
>The communicators ability to perfectly understand what they are trying to communicate
>Perfectly transfer that intention into the optimal medium to be communicated to the intended audience
>And then the audience must do the same process in reverse to perfectly receive the transmitted understanding

there are to many links in this game of telephone for the message to ever transmit perfectly in the physical world.
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How can I tell if I am Astral projecting or just within my dream sphere?
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>>39141642
They're the same state, the difference is the origin of what you see around you.

>in your dream sphere, everything there is projected from your unconscious and given expression through your astral experience.

The screen on which the experience is projected is only as large as your etheric field around your physical sleeping body. In full awareness you will have total control over every aspect of your own dream sphere.

The astral proper is the same thing, but the dreamer is projecting from a much higher level, and so you do not have total control of that dream which is the astral dimension. You are to the astral dreamer the same as the characters you dream in your own sphere.
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Maaan I feel like I was destined to get this information from you at this time. Everything you've shared resonates and lines up with my experiences. You're confirming so much. Thank you sir. Truly. What a crazy ride this experience is.
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>>39141637
That's a beautiful poem, OP. As I've gained more experience I've found myself pulled more and more by poetry, and often feel compelled to write poems about divinity. I often find it to be the more complete form of communication as opposed to plaintext, assuming the listener can read into it properly.
>There is no teacher or student
This reminded me of a passage:
>A victor am I over all, all have I known. Yet unattached am I to all that is conquered and known. Abandoning all, I am freed through the destruction of craving. Having thus directly comprehended all by myself, whom shall I call my teacher?
I take it your craving is destroyed? Or at the very least liable to destruction at any given moment?
>come back down for a specific contract
Let me shoot a wild guess. You want your wife to reach a certain level of attainment? Or maybe... a brother or a son? This is the only thing I can think of.
>we'll find what little is left
Did any survive? Sorry to pelt you with questions, but you must understand my (ironic) predicament of having very few who can and will answer.
>The limitation of language will always exist... physical mediums
I figured as much. An answer must be fine-tuned to the questioner, lest the answer be lost in translation. Can't answer a frenchman in ancient Hindi...
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>>39141594
>How often do you do this? I would like to learn

I don't do it any more, it was an example, I got my house in order and now none of my bodies function independent of my awareness and intention

There is nothing much to learn, simply practice self remembrance as I shared in this thread and practice unbroken attention in meditation.

At some point you'll load in fully to the astral self you have and merge the two awareness's into one continuous being, then you will understand what he is doing, why he is doing it, is it actually important or is he functioning under some misappropriated hyper-drive as an exercise in astral delusion

You will know all of this directly once you can remain present as you pass into full sleep, or develop a practice of intentional astral projection.

>The same way our physical egos have an over inflated sense of importance, so often thinking whatever we are doing is so important
>The astral egos behave the same way
>And are often just as mistaken

And you're right linear temporal experience is expanded into non-linear temporal experience in the astral state because it is a higher dimension, If I can use a old timey analogy - the spectrum of experience for the astral body, which can be thousands of years, becomes like a rolodex, with each card representing a moment in linear time which can be lived directly at the will of the astral observer.

Its something that needs to be directly experienced, words will always fail experience
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>>39141411
thank you anon.
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>>39141689
Please keep your awareness inside the vehicle at all times sir.
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Is this whole system absolute? does everybody get what they deserve always without a fail? no mistakes ever?
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A sage of measure unbeholden,
Hiding hidden in plain sight,
To Man a Gift: he doth embolden,
A grander thing of finer light,

He talks the talk, and walks the walk,
His cherished fellows, searching, seeking,
Are greeted, welcomed, trumpets singing.

Some see light but turn and gawk,
At lesser things,
Yet laugh and mock,
The blessed things,
Then run amok.

He saith polarity's not of the void,
But one must wonder, of tricks employed,
To keep a light alit on Earth,
A simple trick, a thing of mirth:

If polarity be lost upon you,
Surely you won't mind to stay,
A millennia; just one or two,
To help Man see a brighter day.

Though it may be written!
Immutable by thee!
One such as me, so rightly smitten,
Must say with glee:
Surely if,
within ye,
dos and don'ts be gone...

To stay is a Grace of little giving
So asked, this thing must be given,
Go for record; Go (on) long!
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>>39141777
checked

Within the construct the law of karma is absolute, every action will always have a reaction. And the memory of that action will always influence the next action-reaction cycle.

Thankfully, we are not the egos that exist within the construct but the aware observer that experiences those bodies and their egos.

By the purity of your state you are either free or in-bondage. If you believe and experience that you are the bodies, or worse, the egos which act from those bodies. Then you are also bound by all the laws that they are bound by.

It is no more a prison then a film you chose to watch. If you are identified with the characters in the film, and forget yourself completely in the drama of light and sound, then when the characters cry, you will cry with them, when they are victorious, you are victorious alongside them.

It is a great pleasure of the soul to experience this interplay of Self, but it is just a play. A relative drama running on the absolute eternal state.

Taken for what it is, it is extremely enjoyable to experience directly, but once the script becomes our identified reality, it becomes a terrifying place to be, the fear that the film will turn into a horror flick or that the film will end becomes terrifying.
>And sometimes this fear born of ignorance provides the jolt necessary to remember ourselves.

Two children playing cops and robbers are happy to play the game because whether the cop catches the robber or not, both kids laugh about it and go back home after the play is done.
>imagine how foolish it would be for the robber to assume the role permanently, and go into hiding, fearing for their life after they escape their friend playing the cop - and never go home or drop the act - and yet this is the state we find ourselves in.
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Need to ask you something regards meditation, OP.

I feel like I'm missing something key here. Each time I meditate, I feel like I'm right on the cusp of 'dropping' into that true trance state of meditation which allows me to focus in pure thought. However, I keep losing that state, as in, while I'm meditating and my mind gets quiet and still, I begin to drift, and I can feel a great anticipation feeling, like that feel when you on a circus drop ride, and theybtease you first forward couplenfeet, before the actual drop. That's how I feel each time, and the most frustrating thing is, I can only get to that state by losing focus, which paradoxically, as soon as indo, and inget that feeling, I snap back to focus and I lose that feeling. What am I doing wrong?

And also, what exactly am I supposed to feel when I finally break through, and get to that point of freely climbing Jacob's Ladder like you mentioned earlier in the thread? Is there a particular feeling, or sight that I'm to expect? What am I supposed to feel or see so that I know I've done it?

Pls help. I need to learn asap.
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>>39141971
>Imagine you went on that circus drop ride every day for a month, at some point the excitement of the little shift and of the big drop will lose their luster.
>You have to be able to fly the awareness like a cold-blooded F16 pilot, the changes of g-force or the spikes of adrenaline should be non-factors to you.

Excitement is positive, and you can only pass from state to state cleanly in a neutral state.

It sounds like for you, it is just a case of more practice, the fist leg of the journey is dreadfully mechanical, things expand out quite a bit after you can withdraw from the physical body.

Its been stated a million times in a million places, but generally once concentration is complete, you will no longer feel awareness of anything from the eyes down, and the shape in your vision will become like a tunnel which once passed through will take you into the astral state.

See the excitement of sensation as just another thing you notice and let go of, emotion becomes very important later on, but for this stage you must be still as a blade of grass on a windless day. Not through any strain or force, but just through neutral being.
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>>39141822
Christ is King
Supreme Bodhisattva of humanity
>Love that guy
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OP, do you believe ones inner mythos determines whether or not one can reach gnosis? What brought you on the path that you are on (in this incarnation)? I've justified a lot of my beliefs by synchronicities, how important would you say those are?
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>>39142030
I love that guy too.
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>>39141665
Thanks, I ask because at times I feel the urge to treat dreams like GTA but I resist it because I don't know if the dream people are my own projections or true spirits and other dreamers. I don't want to cause harm to others just because I thought they were fake, which is why knowing and figuring out the orgins of my experience is imperative.
So only the only way to tell the difference is to attempt control the dream and see if I'm able?
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>>39140924
thanks anon , its as I suspected I was trying to cling onto the tradition of my birth out of trying to reconcile it in some way with everything I Know.

I think its time to let go.
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>>39142085
Synchronicity increases as you unify your awareness to higher and higher levels of completion - until it feels like a lucid dream where you are aware you are doing the play.

I've heard it called symphonic consciousness, you're not the bass player, or the violinist, or the whole percussion section, you are the symphony.

Every belief is shed in light of true direct experience, I would advise anyone not to harbor any beliefs about any of this, simply increase their self-awareness moment-to-moment and pay close attention to the impressions coming from within and without.
when you're ready for more than the physical, it will open up to you so long as you pull the thread of awareness unceasingly.

it is a natural process and not something that benefits from over analysis and theorizing. You must use the mind to dismantle the hold of the mind, beyond that the use of mind just creates imagination - which manifests as reality in the astral and beyond.

Everything is 'real' because nothing is 'real'. We're using the imaginative capacity of the One Being to express our finite fragment of the whole dream.

True or false are a matter of how well your fragment aligns with the dreamer.
>the physical world has a dreamer and that dreamer has laws within the dream, therefore I cannot turn into a dragon and fly to mars.

The limitations make the game parameters.
And they become less restrictive as you move up in consciousness.
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>>39142158
very brave of you anon, i applaud your maturity
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I'm not sure if you've already answered this (and feel free to link an earlier reply if you have)

- what is the preferred technique for astral projection? I've tried to lay still each night to invoke it , telling myself its easy , etc etc
- Should those early ish in their journey even attempt it or should there be per-requisite knowledge you recommend or a state to reach before taking on those larger battles.
- have you encountered a fellow called Gene Hart from Astral Doorway - do you feel his videos and content are legit?
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>>39142173
thanks just one more question , how much does the language you use matter regarding spiritual practice? I say this because I don't really know what to call god anymore besides "Allah" , I use the word God as a substitute but I feel it lacks

What terms do gnostics use to describe the almighty that transcends tradition based naming conventions?
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>>39142183
Gene is a good guy, he has deep understanding, its not a bad foundational understanding of the whole thing. but the important is to put it into practice otherwise it cannot help you in any way.

>Astral projection is sexy and exciting in spiritual circles
>people try to astral project all sorts of ways, but can't even remain present in their daily lives for more than a few minutes consecutively

Without that ability to remain attentive in awareness, astral projection is prone to creating more problems than solutions, even if you can pull it off.

Become fully present in daily life.
You astral project every night anyway
Through the habit of presence, you will find yourself there, first in your dream sphere and later in the astral proper.

Do the work in front of you first.
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>>39142203
Continue calling him Allah, there's nothing wrong with that.

God cannot be named, he is All. The All in All, The Monad, The True Being, The Eternal Ocean.
>the lesser gods have names, but states of reality is what they are.
The Sant Mat people have a hierarchy of demiurges which attempts to trace the states of reality up into the eternal.

Jot Niranjan, Onkar, Rarankar, Sohang, Sat Nam

>these are all noises of the mind and mouth to signify something which cannot be expressed.
>If they serve any purpose it is to turn the being inward toward its origin, grasping for something which only totality can offer.
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>>39142155
Would you like the dreamer dreaming your physical body to treat his dream like GTA?

>Do to others as you would have them do onto you
>What you have done for the least of you, you have done for me.
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>>39142231
dam bro you are legit as hell - I'm saving this thread to read later, stay blessed senpai
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>>39142252
glad I could offer something of value for you
godspeed,anon
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>>39142250
Personally, no. However the dreamers that dream up the physical people seems to already treat this experience as GTA already.
Also, does that impy that the actions I do to people in video games affects my karma in some way? Considering the fact they too was also dreamed up.
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>>39142305
It affects the character in the game committing the acts. If you identified with that character then you would be back to square one.
Your physical body retains the memory of the action and reaction of your game self. Your drive to reload from a checkpoint after death to try again is closer to reality than I can possibly express.
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>>39141704
>I take it your craving is destroyed?
In awareness there is a inherent drive for maximally increasing coherence towards a non-chaotic state of internal being. So 9/10 anything that does not fit through that eye of the needle, is discarded. There is always the possibility to fall in state, but once habituated it is unlikely.

>Let me shoot a wild guess.
very good guess, yes my wife is due for ascension out of the construct, she'll bring many others along, I'm here to help

>Did any survive?
Anything on the surface would be unrecognizable, inside the crust however some identifiable ruins remain.

>The coming age will engage in mock telepathy through technological implants at first, until they 'discover' that it is an innate ability that can be developed, by that time the technology will become biological in nature and simply assist with the inbuilt ability for telepathy through the physical brain
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>>39142323
teach me how to time travel
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>>39142621
tell me gnostic master
Will I attain enlightenment this lifetime?
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>>39142622
Think of a memory in the past

Now, Imagine a possible future

Congrats you just time traveled

>That's all you get with the physical body, I'm afraid

The faculty that imagines and thinks can indeed time travel, and you can make that part of your integrated coherent self.

Now to astral travel and learn how to materialize from the astral body, is a whole skill and process which I am absolutely not explaining or giving to you.

>Go within, if you're meant to have it then you will
>Its not my place to bestow such boons
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>>39142636
That depends, how long can you look at this dot without having a thought of any kind?

>If you can get to 10 minutes
>Outlook is good

Otherwise, focus and ask again later
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>>39142646
>Now to astral travel and learn how to materialize from the astral body, is a whole skill and process which I am absolutely not explaining or giving to you.

:(
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>>39134928
Is there anything I should know OP?
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>>39142705
Move to a mountainous area above 800m before 2042
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>>39142744
??????
bro?!?
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>>39142744

Hi Alabastar. Nice to meet you
I am Anthony.

I am asking if I have to teach my 5 year old son how to very simply progress to awakening. What is the easiest most graspable lesson I can teach him?
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>>39134928
What's the full lowdown on Victor Manuel Gomez Rodriguez?
(aka "Samael Aun Weor")

Cult leader or inspired?
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>>39142009
I see. I will keep this in mind then in future meditation. Thank you.
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>>39142808
Hi Anthony, I'm happy to help with this.

Check the practices I attached towards the beginning of this thread. The meditation is not so easy for a child so focus on the moment to moment daily awareness.

Nurture a habit for self-awareness in the child.
You can make it like a game.
Say he's colouring a picture
You can ask
>Are you colouring a picture?
>Or are you riding your bike?

Teach the child to identify how they feel about things.
>More easily done in happy states ofc
>Have them communicate their inner state to you and reward them for the effort.

Additionally nurture a habit of full focus on whatever it is they are doing
>Putting on their shoes
>Watching a film
Encourage them to focus on the task at hand alone and do your best to adjust their environment to allow for this.

Children learn very quickly, these skills once ingrained will serve them in all aspects of life, least of all in awakening once they grow older and can understand themselves better.

Of course you must become aware yourself also, so you can instill a good example for them in how to be.
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>>39140994
Yeah it’s just a term used by Crowley and ceremonial magicians. Some have said they reached a point where they become a secret chief. A big thing to note is they never say it happens to them they speak about it in a theoretical, third person way. I’ve been told you usually can’t mention that you have actually become one or entered into this zone. Thus why this place, those souls, are referred to as the secret chiefs. Thanks for the answer.
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>>39142826
Gifted enough to speak on his topic at the very least. He could consciously astral project from childhood and supposedly never lost the ability.

What he intended was a revolution of culture regarding self identification.

What he produced was a hybrid of cult like following and gems of wisdom smothered in an over fixation on sexuality.

Like every other author dealing with such topics we should be able to use what is useful and discard what is not.

>One major issue is that he wrote all throughout his life
>His insights into Being, progressed as he aged, but he could not entirely discard the parts of his system which arose in an earlier less developed mode of understanding.

Regardless I stand by the majority of what is written in his most complete work.
The Revolution of the Dialectic.

He puts very concise words to very difficult to grasp insights.
Basically speed running Buddhism.
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>>39136723
I actually have experienced something similar to you and I found his answer to you very insightful.
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>>39142941
Well regardless thats certainly not where Crowley ended up.
>Wailing and gnashing of teeth more like
He stopped his bullshit ritual half way and left with an ego the size of Texas and a stunted essence trapped in the qlipoth.

A master doesn't tell you hes a master usually out of practicality, its not helpful, it raises a reflecting force in the egos of the seeker.
>How could he claim such a thing
>If he we're perfectly humble he wouldn't say that
>If thats so why doesn't he show me a miracle

Its not helpful. Look at Jesus, he professed being a Master, and more than that in an inflammatory way, to bring about his public death.
A real fucking soul rebel if you ask me.
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>>39143005
That was more or less the impression I got of him.
He seems to somehow straddle the line between enlightened syncretic and blind cult-leader (especially after the name change).

In a similar vein, is there anything esoteric about semen or is that just another blind?

And slightly unrelated I'd value your interpretation of an experience I had several months ago.
For context, I was just discovering mysticism and had been contemplating Da'at and the universal love of Tifferet:

>Laying down, meditating on the edge of sleep
>Visual imagery of being a satelite
>Orbiting a black hole (or possibly Saturn)
>(in the vision) My phone goes off with messages as I watch the satelite's orbit decay
>Messages imply that I'm dying
>One reminds me that "music soothes the savage beast"
>"Anything not saved will be lost"
>I feel a rush of emotions as the satelite crashes into the object and I realise unity with all
>""I am Casini"
>""I am [insert long list of things here]""
>""I am the universe""
>Feel as though I experience death
>It seems similar to a collossal tribal fire with figures leaping through as people tell stories around it
>I feel as though I have just leaped through the flames and left a universe of people behind
>A beast - much like a large lion - sits listening to the tales
>It radiates death and destruction but also somehow warmth and softness
>I rest against it, knowing it could devour me
>I wake up in the morning, feeling as though I had shifted universes and that things have been strange ever since

Even to this day I'm not sure if I did unintentional pathworking or what.
Any thoughts?
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Alabaster, I began trying to achieve gnosis and kind of found my way into kundalini (it’s all the same right? Just a different word?). But originally I started my spiritual ascension via Carlos Castaneda, and do my meditation in the complete darkness, eyes open. I’ve begun to see some really amazing things— scenes of war, beautiful countryside, etc., but also really bad things— it’s like someone or something is trying to scare me into quitting. I took a break for a few months from meditating but am back and making lots of progress again. But now I see weird Lovecraftian one eyed tentacle monsters as real as the family dog and tentacled parasites getting right up on me that looks like they’re eating me alive. I’ve only recently begun to understand I just need to ignore it and continue on the path, but is that really what I’m supposed to do? Ignore these wicked entities? Mentally project light and love? Is there any deeper meaning to them? Or are they simply an obstacle to get over? First it was the Hatman, then it was a giant Mantis alien and grey, and now it’s the Lovecraftian stuff. Seems as I beat one another comes in its place. Any thoughts?
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>>39142661
i last like 30 seconds
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>>39143092
The only esoteric thing about semen is that it is energy, and energy tied up in the most potent waste of energy [sexual release] one could engage in when trying to awaken their subtler body systems.
It is all to do with energy - if you squander your energy externally you won't have much left to focus internally. For a time at least, early on, it can be accelerating for the seeker to make themselves into a high pressure steam engine - if they have the right practices and tools to use they will awaken rapidly. Where as a half hearted effort will get halfhearted results stretched out over much longer timeframes.

That's an excellent experience anon, to use the orchestrated crash of the Cassini satellite as a basis for an interplay of Self experiencing ego disillusionment through passing into the void.
Take it as poetry of the soul. A message to your small Self from the other side. Saturn in alchemy and Kabbalah represents the passing of spirit into solid materiality. Saturn is the black star that eats the astral light to make finite prisons for the soul essence.
A very insightful dream/vision to be sure, I urge you to reflect upon it in meditation.
Daat is the little void which passes the self from duality to non duality. The big void passes the Self from being into non being, the singularity point if you will.
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>>39143189
This is why I goon max working out aka exerting energy just builds my ability to store and use said energy so the more I goon the greater the ability to store and exert divine chi I have
It is that master bait to attract the gods blessings
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>>39143159
Then you have work to do it seems.
>All things are possible for one with the will to try.

To illustrate for you the range of focus required for deep inner diving.
>If one who knows nothing and has experienced nothing, can remain at the third eye centre with minimal wavering for 3 hours he must go inside.

If one who has experience commits to such an effort he will go very deep indeed.

We're inverting the entire flow of consciousness here, anon.
And climbing back up the stream like a salmon fighting against the current.
>If it were easy, we would all be walking on water
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>>39143159
Very impressed you found that image so quickly
Certainly similar colours to the leonine beast I saw.

The reason I focus in on Da'at specifically is because of that association.
I'd been studying kabbalah and hermeticism alongside astrology (less-so alchemy) after doing a deep-dive into comparative mythology.
That recognition of non-dual-dualism was likely what spurred the experience.

The shock to me was that I had such an experience as I typically have not visualised much over my lifetime to that point.

RE semen and energy, what's your advice to an adept who's rather sexually driven and has a long history of "spilling the chalice".
"HAM SAH" has been advised by a local gnostic centre, though imho this seems like a misunderstanding of ayervedic breathing techniques. (P.S. What's up with the idea of "clenching the asshole" while vibrating?)
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>>39143122
I don't necessarily recommend that for of meditation, but whatever keeps your focus for an hour or more is fine by me.
Where is your attention during this practice? If you can tell me I might be able to expedite the time you spend hallucinating mental obstacles.

>Because if I begin to interact with the screen of my vision at any point on the way up then my focus is pulled from the center, and in a sense I step out of the lift and onto a floor. Sometimes this is the intention of the meditation, other times it is a fault in focus.
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Can you give me a mantra to repeat during the inner practice please?
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>>39143255
I don't think clenching your butthole will do much for you desu. Yes you can learn to pass energy around your body, yes external aides sometimes help get the feeling for it.
For what you seem interested in, I would simply say whenever you get the urge at an unfruitful time (the only fruitful time is with a partner so there is an exchange of energy) recenter yourself behind the eyes.

>Where attention goes energy flows
>Keep it behind the eyes and relax your muscles a little
You will find if you are not engaging the mind in fantastical sexual thoughts the energy will move and disperse from the root pretty easily and rapidly
>But you have to be willing and able to let go of the urge, otherwise you create inner resistance and a greater need to goon arises.

Take that energy and put it into fruitful endeavours, material or spiritual. If you don't have a romantic partner, it could be a great benefit to acquire that.
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They all do the same thing but an Ideal mantra will have two elements.
1.Refer to non material places or things, so the mental attention is not drawn to imagination of the world
2. In a language you don't speak so the mental attention does not ruminate or criticise the words of the mantra.

The names of the demiurges I quoted from the Sant Mat tradition work well.
>Niranjan, Onkar, Rarankar, Sohang, Sat Nam.
>La ilaha il allah, great rhythm to that one
> Yeshua Meshiach, ethrahkhem alai, Lords prayer in aramaic
>Waheguru waheguru waheguru
>Mentally chanting Om or Hu

It all works, point is to focus the speaking and hearing of the mind on one repetitive phrase.
In fact the soul uses the mind to speak, and listening to an intentionally generated phrase such as these pulls the awareness closer to its essence automatically.
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>>39143323
Blame the local gnostic centre for the butthole bullshit - I figured it was one more of the blinds they'd fallen for after bastardising tantra w/ a strange form of kabbalah.

On the topic of kabbalah I have a couple quick questions:
1. The tree used by the local centre is strange in its associations - placing Moon at Hod and Mercury at Netzach, Venus at Tifferet and it gets weirder from there (with "PTR" at Yessod). Have you seen anything like that? Any idea where those ideas have come from and any pros of this layout over the more common version?

2. Any advice to shift focus from Hod to Netzach?
I've put a lot of energy into learning and could do with a boost to my creativity.
What do you advise?
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>>39143415
1. Honestly I always found the labeling of the tree of life to be clunky and needlessly vague. If you want you can check the one I posted very early on.>>39135050

2. The soul pulls in whatever direction it needs along the tree in order to balance itself so it can progress up the centre path. Think of it as harmonizing opposites that are really one spectrum with two poles. Put very simply
>Learning is consumption
>Creativity is production
Find some outlet to express yourself and you will pull your balance back towards the center.

Paying attention to what I have shared in this thread, would help one who is willing to establish a permanent center of consciousness and become an automatic transformer of new impressions and old impressions alike into coherent Self consistent experiences.
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>>39135050
What exactly is kundalini? I've heard vagus nerve, I've heard general endocrine system, and I've heard pineal gland. Can you be specific with what it is, both physically and psychologically?
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Okay i think you are perfect person to answer this question so here it goes
I've always preceived myself as an creative person cause as far as i can remember i lived more in this imaginal realms, paracosm as others name them. Ive needed a litte to create one, funny sketch? Done, a whole world in its style to live in it. Image in history book? Done, whole new cities inspired by Mezoamerica to live in. With worlds of course came characters to roleplay, in any of this worlds i could be everyone, feel any type of emotion, pain, grief, i could create scenarios that resolve thouse emotions or embrace, depended what character i was at the time or who i liked in some scenario. And of course with this type of lets say "power" i easly fell for esoterism schools that could explain this type phenomena, and the answers like "everyone lives in a astral-bubble that lively react to phenomena by creating experience" always resonated with me, becouse it suggested that indeed, thought can shape other realm and thought is shaped by realm, action-reaction and you live in your head. Simple. But there is a thing. Everyone wiser than me, you included OP, said that key to gnosis and higher realms is to be always concentrated, living in present. At the beginning i ignored that tip, cause why i should be concentrated in the moment while thing that i aiming is to create vast realms in my head, soo distinct from world where i live? But yet, i learned by buddhism that sila and samathi not only can strengthen bond with present, but especially with mind! And with this driffting in this imaginal realms become more and more vivid and constant! Not to mention astral travel, wich i experienced only few times for now montlhy exercises, but where i feel like home, like place more real then real, and more flexible then my paracosm. And there is this one thing that im scared off, whatever you name it, nirvana, gnosis, i don't know what to thing about it.
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>>39143912
Only thing that i know for now is that i want to be some kind of "whole place" after death, that i wan't to create and experience new perspectives that i create for myself by myself in pleorma state, when material body, and attatchment to "self" won't restrict me as it quite often take place, but nirvana/gnosis sound like givin up, even on that so i don't know what should i build my mind into now. I wan't to just exist somewhere to play with my litte worlds but all of enlightenment sounds only like existing without any power to manifest anything, just sitting in infinite bliss when you can't even form properly anything that you could experience, like a drug addict. When like i said i just wan't to get rid of this material form that i have now, and do whatever i can! Generally gnosis/nirvana sounds realy boring so why aiming at it?
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>>39143784
Its dormant subtle energy bound up in the coccyx. It's as real as the chakras or nadis, that is to say, it is relevant to the etheric energy body and not so much to the physical body.
>There are physical glands that correspond to the etheric centers

The idea is that by retaining the sexual energy and directing it up the central spinal channel you awaken this dormant energy and it clears up blockages as it passes up the energetic spinal channel, eventually reaching the third eye centre and aiding the yogi in breaking through the veil. It is a destructive force essentially and understood as dissolving blockages held by the practicioner.

The Christ oil leaves the brain and does a circuit down and again up the spinal channels, similar effect as the kundalini.
But unable to do much if the channel is not already clear.

I am a proponent of a third method which is the continual and ongoing focus of the awareness at the third eye directly, which in meditation will draw up the awareness from the body and in my experience speed up the process of piercing the veil, without the destructive effects of awakening the kundalini preemptively, before one can cope with the side effects.

>The body will take care of itself if awareness is properly focused
>Such is my experience
>So that is what I recommend for others seeking to pierce the veil at the third eye
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>>39143916
I'll answer this novel as soon as I can, hang tight anon, theres a lot to get into with this expansive and verbose question.
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>>39144123
no problem! I'll wait!
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Where was Atlantis? What was it, really? Just a big, old city? Why did they coverup Gobekli tepe, what are they hiding?
What's in the bag? What's with the pinecone, and the wristwatch?
Who made the pyramids? How? Why?
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>>39144083
Thank you.
>blockages
What is meant by this? The only way I can read it is a psychological thing that one interprets through one of these glands for some reason. For instance, your (psychological problem) is one of gluttony, which is a "blockage" at the stomach, but with enough energy, it ceases to be your 'focus'.

Which brings me to a larger question... does your level of consciousness roughly sit at wherever your blockages are? What else can you tell me about these energies?
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Oh, and when are the aliens going to publicly interact with humanity?
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>>39144163
>What's in the bag? What's with the pinecone,
From what I've gleaned:
Bag = bag of pollen
Pinecone = seed of tree
Scene depicted = tree pollination ritual (I think it was a palm tree)
Person depicted = the head Druid of the Assyrians, whose god Assur was Osiris of Mesopotamia
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>>39134928
you are a nigger and the gnosis which you seek/have is false. the world is not purely material & that which you harbor inside yourself is only a reflection of the higher power which spawned us. pee pee poo poo nigger
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could you answer this?

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>>39134928
What do you think about HGA?
Is Abramelin legit?
Are there any other alternative consistent methods?
Thanks
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>>39134928
I have a silvermark/mallen's streak

what does it mean?
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>>39143916
>paracosm
We are all existing in Gods paracosm.
Before Nirvana is union with the GodHead, the True Being whos dream we are all in.

Union with the GodHead means you have access to all the dreams being operated by consciousness.

For someone with your fascination for indulging in created worlds, I think you'd have the most fulfillment on one of the creator councils as a little demiurge of your own, and perhaps that is where you have come from since your etheric visualization field sounds maximally developed.

As an avid and capable dreamer yourself, try to understand the Holy Dreamer more and more throughout your material life, and once you pass, if you can focus your mind and prevent the automatic formation of an astral afterlife world from your own mind then you will rise up to greater heights, where greater dreams can be created.

>Not every soul is destined to inhabit the Nirvanic void
>And gnosis is just direct experience of truth, you gain gnosis of every step up to the origin point, You don't lack gnosis and then once you reach perfect nirvana you have gnosis.

And its not like you have to remain there anyway. All is void, imagine it as a boundless illuminated ocean, dead still; from void, any motion creates manifestation
The only next step from the top is back down, and it never ends. But you are once again given the opportunity to select your next game, after a period of rest that seems appropriate to you.

When you go up, you are given checkpoints where you can give up the body below that point and live completely in the higher region. If you choose to keep the bodies, then you will have new responsibilities in those realms, because you will know too much to excuse living ignorant physical and astral and mental existences any longer.

>Get good at leaving your body in meditation and you will be eventually offered if you want to give up the material body permanently
>Say yes or no, whatever you want
>Its not my place to say what is right for you
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>>39147441
Most likely an autoimmune condition that has resulted in the inflammation of the hair follicle in that area, causing accelerated degradation.

If it has been something you've always had from childhood, I wouldn't worry about it

If it is a recent development I would advise getting some bloodwork done and paying close attention to inflammatory markers that may come up.
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>>39146875
The whole of the trick is to make the little piece of conscious awareness that we have, become aware of the vast unconscious awareness that we possess, to assimilate the vast unconscious into the coherent conscious awareness and to become complete.
The HGA is a mythologized understanding of the conscience of the soul, that exists outside of mental constructs and communicates through intuition and direct experience. In a sense this higher capacity for Being within each individual is what guides and directs the pathways to assimilation and completion. So long as it is not assimilated into the conscious awareness then it must be understood as an external guiding force, regardless of whether that is true or not.

The Abermelin Ritual is kind of a sperg approach to the whole thing in my opinion. The holy armor of God is purity, of mind and state, then you can face and control the lesser forces of the mind, and they will listen to you because you have made yourself coherent and unified.
The HGA tunes in with you because you have worked hard with long intention to make the temple of the body a suitable dwelling place for your highest self.
>It is the material externalization of an inner process of the psyche.
>Many such cases
>see picrel for another example
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>>39145639
Put as simply as possible in the Christian context of the post you referenced

>This world belongs to Satan
>Becoming like Christ requires going against the external impulse of the world
>The external and internal interplay of Self will acknowledge this shift in focus
>And provide ample mundane obstacles
>To see if your love for the world is in fact stronger than your love for the Soul

If one is to 'find God' in a lifetime, that whole journey from start to finish will have been worked out before the birth of the individual, with certain non negotiable karmic points along that path

>It is a story good enough for the astral body to desire incarnation

>And so you will find that every drama has antagonists, or else the victory of the protagonist would ring empty

Eventually as one assimilates more into their True soul self this perspective of opposites, [of something happening to me, poor me, why me] just is not a state that arises anymore.

A strong soul greets good and bad with the same serene equanimity. So long as that anons understanding of God and his soul journey is polarized in opposites, his experience will reflect that externally as difficulty and tribulations.

>The mind is the only enemy we will ever find, once conquered, we are free
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>>39145617
>The pee pee has never left the balls, if you will
>The stream, the toilet, the flush
>All an illusion
>The pee pee is already home
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>>39144184
Whenever they need us to unite under one world government with its HQ in Jerusalem.

External threat is required to unify the masses.
>Could be carrot - join our Galactic Federation blah blah blah
>Could be stick - those alien scum want our women for testing blah blah blah

Aliens are inter-dimensional human level beings, they've been interacting with us for thousands of years, they spliced their DNA into the primitive hominids here to create humans.

The public media is the barn door for the battery milk farm
You will never be shown anything true on that barn door.
>Only things to make you more calm
>Or to make you produce more milk
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>>39144163
>What's in the bag? What's with the pinecone, and the wristwatch?
This >>39144203

>Where was Atlantis? What was it, really?
Global capital of the last worldwide civilization before the cataclysm 12,000 years ago. At the end of the Golden age.

>Why did they coverup Gobekli tepe, what are they hiding?
They're trying to hide the cyclical cataclysms that the earth passes through. For example they label as global warming what is really a galactic interplay between the solar system and radiation pathways in the milky way. The Sun will sneeze with a full coronal mass ejection, and like Atlantis before us there will be a complete restructuring of the earths crust, and the completed flipping of the poles.

>Who made the pyramids? How? Why?
The pyramids of Giza were reconstructed immediately after the last great cataclysm, the survivors of Atlantis, came down to recover what could be restored of humanity after the destruction. They rebuilt them in trying to fire up the atmospheric energy grid, and at those points north of the tropic of Cancer, where civilization could be reestablished, Mediterranean, Mesopotamia Central America, Ancient China they prospered quite well. But of course the down-swing of planetary consciousness couldn't be stopped, and what we once knew was lost little by little.

How they made them is a whole different topic. It gets into what the direct experience of living in the Higher Ages on earth is like and that will have to be a separate post
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You can understand blockages as strongly self imposed physiological prisons that are perpetuated by the egos which act out through our bodies. The dissolving of these blockages, results in integration of the unconscious into the Self-conscious permanent being. And along with that new bands of experience open up to our newly harmonized Selves

>picrel is a helpful way to visualize the progression through blockages
>you can imagine that each emotional state brings along other certain physiological experiences within the body.
>like how fear is a knot in the stomach or a dropping sensation when expressed proprioceptivly
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>>39136394
>everything in this reality is pre-determined to be a Jojo reference
When do I get my stand?

Also I haven't read the whole thread, but this Lillith reincarnation sounds like Revelation type stuff.
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Just came back from a profound but confusing astral experience I'm hoping you can help me unpack. Few questions please.

If we're astral projecting every night when we sleep, is it possible our astral self is traveling around pissing off a lot of people without us knowing?

If we go somewhere but suddenly return to our body, are we still there doing stuff are do we poof out of existence to anyone we were with?

Is it normal to feel significantly weaker later into the night, like it's harder to fly up?

If we're in an astral experience, do we ascend to higher realms by flying up through the clouds, or should I be closing my eyes and trying to astral project while astral projecting or something?

Thanks, really appreciate it.
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>Lesson from Dio pt. II

https://youtu.be/D8tsmqInhjg?si=0BODCqLGCBXW1vyv

>Run for the light
Focus the awareness on the self generated light behind the closed eyes in meditation

>Find the sacred heart
This is raising the consciousness into tiphareth, the solar astral body and the permanent center of conscious necessary to complete the great work of integration of consciousness

> A shout comes from the wizard, the sky begins to crack, and hes looking right at you
The veil is pierced by the sound of the eternal Word and one enters into direct experience of their soul, in this context the HGA

>Run along the rainbow, before it turns to black
Climb the centers of the spine before the death of the physical body.
Additionally the rainbow is white light separated into illusory divisions. Reunify the divisions before entropy absorbs your temporal center of consciousness, make the rainbow back into the original white light.

>Based Dio
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>>39147750
I got your stand right here, champ

>https://youtu.be/V5QukAC-jqE?si=8mwNrzdy7baPURzF

>Refer to >>39147788
for illustration of what the rainbow is
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I have been following this thread for days, truly excellent. Thank you for taking the time to respond to everyone with such detailed answers

Do you have any “must read” books you could recommend?
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>>39147815
I mentioned these two earlier in the thread.

>The Revolution of the Dialectic
[Disregard the authors obsession with kundalini and sexual alchemy, truly a soft brained addition to an otherwise excellent work]
>https://samaelaunweor.ro/ENG_Books/EN_The_Revolution_of_the_Dialectic.pdf

>Spiritual Gems
[Disregard anything about the physical master, they exist, but the inner master is the soul, and independent to the individual]
>http://www.bahaistudies.net/asma/spiritualgems.pdf

One more I'll add on
>Go Within
[Again same issue with their tradition of the external master]
>https://ishanews.org/media/books/pdf/GO-WITHIN-NC-SA.pdf

And one more about understanding how to access the Music of the Spheres
>Surat Shabd Yoga Technique
[Use earplugs at first, eventually the inner sound should be loud enough that you won't need them anymore]
>https://pdfcoffee.com/the-shabd-yoga-technique-pdf-free.html
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I'm back with more questions, seeing as you're very willing to answer. Thanks for the good thread, I am reading your in-depth answers even if I don't reply to the post. I don't have much to add so I withhold my replies. Anyways, I got a few more questions.
How many species of (physical) extraterrestrials/aliens have visited Earth? What are they like? How many visit regularly even now? Does this group overlap with the interdimensionals or are they separate in nature (ie extraterestrials are physical, interdimensionals are non-physical etc)?
Are lyrans real or just a furry fantasy? I often see them mentioned but don't see how they fit into the (true) history of Earth if they actually are real.
So, the Boötes void... what the hell is that? Intelligently designed cover? Random chance? Giga-blackhole? What about the signal?
Most powerful egregore currently? Has modern Islam been hijacked by a demon, or an evil egregore? Was Mohammed legit?
What did Yeshua mean by seeing him (Nathanael) under the fig tree? Is this connected to a certain blue diety?
Thoughts on Babaji?
Will you make more threads? I may still have questions...
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>>39134928
Thank you for making this. I hope you don't mind a large post. There's no way to condense this any more.

I've been trying to understand the historical events around the formation of Christianity and Judaism for over 3 years now. I randomly saw something on here that set me off on that journey. New insights have slowed greatly in the past year or so, as I've reached the limit of what seems to be publicly known, so I was thinking maybe you could go a bit farther.

To start, there is a religion of the Judeans, which is recorded as a single timeline back to at least 800 BC, maybe 1000 BC. This is the classic "line of David". These were not "Jews" in any real sense, but they lived in Judea. I think they were "Phoenicians" (which were merely an eastern branch of Minoans and therefore Greeks at large), and David was Tammuz, or Adonis. I think their big rival was Assyria, whom they were somehow related to, as both groups were headed by Druid leadership. I've heard "Scythian" thrown around, but this means little to me outside of a greek context. Are we supposed to associate BMAC culture or Yamnaya culture with the word "Scythia"?

There are several intervening periods that shape the later Christian as well as Jewish texts. Assyria invades and imposes control. Babylon invades and takes prisoners with them. Persia then conquers Babylon. Now, this appears to be the first infusion what we can later identity as "Jewish", because the Persians run an intelligence op on Judea to bring them into their control, materially and spiritually. This is where Tammuz and the Phoenician religion is first replaced with Zoroastrian religion. What's funny is that Phoenicians and Iranians were both fireworshippers, so we're still kind of talking about the same category of people. However Zoroastrianism was an orthodoxy that sought to eliminate or at least occlude the mystery schools from the public. By eliminating mystery schools, they had total control over truth and thus power.

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>>39147962
150 years after Persia, Alexander comes through and liberates the Judeans. His successors attempt to piece together the various ideologies that had been floating around the region from before and after the Persian era. This leads to the formation of the first Old Testament, the Septuagint.

About 270 years after that, you have the age of Christ. Christ's goal was much the same as Buddha's goal. If Buddha was reacting to authorities who had occluded the mysteries in general Scythia (and Buddha was Scythian), east of Judea, then Christ was reacting to the authorities who had occluded the mysteries particularly in a western context, starting with Rome in 187 BC and the banishment of Bacchnalia. As an Essene trained at Mt Carmel, he was particularly concerned with the temple in Jerusalem, which I believe should be framed as an outgrowth of Egypt. Therefore, their god was originally much the same as Osiris (like the Assyrian Assur, btw). Somehow, the Phoenicians and Egyptians were definitely related, but the Egyptians were older and more conservative (and therefore, probably more gnostic in their teachings). So, Judea was home to two separate traditions coming together (Phoenician Tammuz/Davidic lineage and Egyptian Osirian, which I believe would be the Levites) along with tons of syncretism coming from Babylon and Persia. I think Enochians (flood survivors, "chosen people", followers of the fallen angel who guides their way) come from the third influence, so there are several different parties here pulling a lot of weight. I think Jerusalem's temple became more about that Enochian faction, but the oldest legends about the importance of said temple rested upon the fact that exiled pharaohs and egyptian priesthoods went there.

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>>39147966
Anyways, my point is Christ was restoring Osiris (gnostic wisdom), restoring Tammuz ("rightful kings"), negating Enoch (you are not "chosen", I will be the sign that ends all future apocalypses, etc). This led to two separate conflicts, one with a branch of the Essenes that was present in Rome (Temple at Ephesus -> Cybele Cult -> Galli priests of Rome -> The Vatican) and one with the Herodians (and perhaps Julian emperors... not sure the extent of their investment). The Herodian conflict led to a Jewish civil war of sorts (by proxy, since Herod let the Roman military abuse Judeans with impunity), which is later called the "Jewish-Roman" war, which hit a peak in 70 AD but had two other follow up wars. The conflict with the Galli at the Vatican eventually led to the formation of Catholicism, in attempt to overwrite the influence that Christ had on history.

Now, to attempt to dive in specifically on the historical Christ, I have a few thoughts. Apollonius of Tyana seems to be leading a Pythagoras-Asclepius-Gnostic renaissance, and Simon Magus appears to be following in his footsteps (even though the Catholics wrote so negatively of him). Philo of Alexandria is doing some work here too.

On the flipside, there is a royal faction that claims bloodlines of Caesar, Cleopatra, and several other important bloodlines of the time. We know these people by different names historically. "Caesarion" (literally Little Caesar, which was not his real name) and his brothers by Cleopatra are one grouping. Izates and Monobazus of Adiabene are another grouping.

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>>39147968
One thing I just can't figure out is if Apollonius and Simon are in fact _the same_ as some members in the second group that have royal blood. I can definitely find evidence that Izates and Monobazus had foreign training in their youth. Izates is known to have gone to Charax Spasinu for instance. This lines up a bit with Apollonius of Tyana. I could also figure he wasn't necessarily from Tyana himself; instead his mother was, or something like that. However, I just get lost in all of this speculation and cannot get enough hard facts to keep my investigation grounded. Hence, I'm stuck.

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I have a bit of a silly question. Can you still get a good night's rest if you're constantly out there being lucid in the astral?
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>>39147971
To quickly cover the actual "Jewish" aspect. My understanding is that Judaism in the earliest period was simply "Christianity" essentially, without the Catholic element. By claiming Jewishness, they could avoid backlash by the church that had established orthodoxy. However, in later years, an actual "Jewish religion" that we know today (Talmudic Judaism) emerged, and this seems to have a totally separate origin. There's something going on with the Khazars in relation to the Romans at this time. I think this may be a continuation of the Enochian faction that lost those civil wars back around the time of Christ, but rather than getting on board with gnosticism, they just continued to want world domination. So, this might be a particularly Persian/Babylonian element. _They_ go north, arriving in Russia, and ultimately plot their long-term invasion of Rome/Europe. I think Rome (in Byzantium at thie time) does a deal with them because they are useful for keeping the population in line, particularly with respect to banking and collecting taxes. At some point, the Vatican realizes this is a real conflict, and they do battle with these "Jews" for much of the Middle Ages. The average European at this time does not benefit from the rule of _either_ party. I think maybe the Venetians are actually these Khazars on European soil, or at least they are closely connected. The Venetians took over the Vatican around 1000 AD, so from that point on the old guard of the orthodoxy was weakening, remaining largely as powerful monarchs (placed by the Vatican centuries prior, thanks to the "Donation of Constantine", a farce) that dwindled but were not extinguished until WW2.

Can you comment on any of this? I know it was long and I didn't ask many questions. I'm just sharing my notes with you.

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