So if you study jung, and you can comprehend your own internal world better. Thats great...for sure...but if you do that. You know what other people are lacking in. Accidentally I noticed that one could seek out internal shadow problems in them like a rocket, and bare them to the light. A lot of people have fear and shadow problems inside of them. I have been talking to them about this for a while, here and there. No idea what it does to them. But the way one talks to them changes from normi talk...to something strange. I accidentally did this, so anyone else have exprience with it? Facing your own shadow, but then also knowing how to interpret various symbols...wow what a power to use in others.
>>39136558thats because people are scared of the word therapy but when you use that language game they actualy enjoy it. i used to do this a lot but got tired of people not being able to improve for shit so i cut of those fuckers because i value my time to much. monst self proclaimed jungeans are also full of shit because they are into those stupid personality test and types wich actualy have nothing todo with jung, so i hope you dont do that.mckenna said something like, jung created great maps but you cant get the land out of it, so take some psychedelics to actually get there. and most psychedelics user dont know shit about the psyche and think they are hot shit after treversing these lands with no clue where they are on the map.
jung and psychoanalysis is bullshit. It's just suggestion. What do you mean by facing your own shadow?>>39136760shut up junkie
>>39136857>It's bullshit >What do you mean by (basic concept that indicates you don't know what you're talking about)
>>39136558If you're a good student of Jung it gives you some degree of power and you know what comes with power. Fortunately it's usually good natured (responsible) people that study Jung.I'm not a great student of his and don't think I'd use the knowledge interpersonally in my day to day. He helps me understand the larger memetic/spiritual currents in our culture, and helps me somewhat with understanding myself.Also, the knowledge helps me understand and navigate this board better.
>>39136857this guy is scared of therpy
>>39136760Thanks to psych knowledge I can accurately say that about 50% of all men are pure evil, like devil worshipping, family killing kind of evil. There are tons of dudes who fuck over their own family for a bit of money. Its quite common.In total however, something like 90% of men are in some way damaged or inadequate, never managed to reach their potential. Have tons of fear and other mental problems. Cant just relax and be so to speak.
>>39136857There are various parts inside of a human, many archetypes, some of them linger inside of you, waiting to express themselves. If you oppress them well thats no good lol. Mental problems happen, less joy in life is to be found. One can try to evoke that archetype, make it speak, by addressing it. And then it has a chance to act, and this acting often completely changes a person. Quite a nice feat dont you think? I dont claim I have pure success with everyone in like 5 minutes, but given enough time I managed to learn a little bit to draw it out.
>>39137179>>39136760Also, dream analysis is a big part of jung. Its a bit of a nightmare difficulty tier thing to interpret the dreams because they tend to be very specific to the person.For example, for me I had two dreams about hating authority. Like the "hoist the colors" dream, music of that stuff. Alongside other anti authority dreams. Rebel stuff. Pretty powerful.And you know what I was doing? Being on the path of defying all authority. I started being more aggressive and rude to people even at the slightest of infractions.
>>39137179that sounds kinda sexist and essentialist.at least say its for all humans.
>>39137239what? I dont consider women as human so they are kinda devilish by default...lol just joking. But yea all people, about 50% of them are pure evil. If you learn on how they operate, one loses faith in a large chunk of society. They are pure evil, beasts in human form. Not even close by a mile to normal operation. With low stress, low problems and steady progress to common goals like family, property and money. Nope. Humanity is pretty fucked.
>>39137449thats the spirit!>With low stress, low problems and steady progress to common goals like family, property and money. Nope.can you elaborate, im not sure what youre getting at there.
Do I have to read most (if not all) Jung's works if I want to get into psychoanalysis and better understanding myself?I have these posts saved from an anon here on /x/, I still haven't followed what he said but maybe there is any youtube channel or book I can read on the subject?I am pretty good with meditation but I never cared much about analyzing my thoughts, dreams and emotions and I want to give it a try.
>>39136558>I have been talking to them about this for a while, here and there. No idea what it does to them. But the way one talks to them changes from normi talk...to something strange.I don't think I fully understand, what were those conversations like?
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>>39136760>mckenna said something like, jung created great maps but you cant get the land out of it, so take some psychedelics to actually get there. and most psychedelics user dont know shit about the psyche and think they are hot shit after treversing these lands with no clue where they are on the map.I agree with all of this.
>>39136857>shut up junkie
>>39139050Get a sampling from many people. Joseph Campbell has a lot of great stuff on Youtube, and Jordan Peterson's early work is really good.
>>39141049>Jordan Petersonjust no.just read the himself, not some grifting sickophant like peterson.if you want someoneelses take, i would recommend bernado kastrup, he even wrote some books about jung. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2E500ELKYKE
>>39141099If you like to read books, you would like his first one.
>>39136558just study astrology, thats real power
>>39136558Jung is correct about ‘shadows’ and all that shit. Problem is the flowery language and the unnecessary significance placed on the concepts. When you put it simply, all it reminds us of is that people have repressed issues. It’s not that profound. So if you go around trying to ‘shadow work’ people by baring people’s inner problems to light, you aren’t actually helping or enlightening others. People aren’t fucking stupid, they know exactly what their own ‘shadows’ are, they face them every night before bed in quiet rumination. If you go around poking at people’s shadow, it’s the equivalent of being a nosy bastard with little tact. Imagine if you had an infectious wound on your back, and you hide it with thick clothing, and then all of a sudden some weird bastard comes up to you and jabs a finger into it so he can feel all smart and ‘wise’ for being able to identify your wound. You would be pissed and want the guy to fuck off.
>>39137716Most people have trouble functioning normally, barely anyone can function in peak performance. A normal man needs to have relatively low stress, low fear, lots of creativity and energy to pursue things.Even low IQ men can do these things as you can see tradies getting rich. The problem is that nearly everyone you know is depressed, has an eating disorder (is fat), this is some way is linked to stress eating. Many smoke...but thats not that bad. The fact that they spend so much on coping mechanisms is what is horrible. That is not the natural state of man. Most men and their coping mechanisms have this "if it wasnt for X I could do Y"That is a mental illness thing, mild one for sure, its just cowardice and mental laziness but its still one. Approximately 90% of people have that, and a vast other amount of issues. There exist almost no normal functioning humans anymore.
>>39139050There are various books, like on the shadow and subconsciousness. I read one book that told me to write down intention on a piece of paper. Intention but also dreams. You try to find the exact meaning of dreams by attributing to it what you think it could be, and letting the one that has "most energy" shine through so to speak. For dream interpretation. There are various books and many modern authors who talk about it. Its part of the tsun zu doctrine of "know yourself, and know your enemy and you will win most of the battles". Well jung allows you to know yourself, and to predict what you yourself would do if you encounter events outside, people, systems etc.
>>39141419If people repress the shadow, it tends to grow larger and out of control. Like a wild animal. So your analogy is not entirely correct. One speaks to the wounded animal in another person. And that wounded animal becomes wild and ferocious. It starts to take more of their life. They have more difficulty repressing it. Why you may ask why I do this? Because 90% of the people are shit. Pure garbage. Cowards, dopes, retards. Not actually respectable human beings. They repress the masculine part in themselves in the west pretty badly. Because we live in feminist oppression here. So you find that little critter in them, try to feed it and sometimes it becomes a wild, raging animal. Fairly fun to do.
>>39141567>>39141547Like this book, very useful
>>39141609Also this writer has good stuff, called schwartz salant.
>>39141547Well i think that most of that comes from modern society, just like in Zoos an Captivity, animals behave vastly diffrent then they would in their normal habitats. We didnt evolve to sit in front of computers or work repetetive jobs, theres only so much blame you can put on the individual. People who live in the rainforst who are still uncontacted are the closest thing we have to humans in natrual habitat. A egalitarian society that would put a heavy focus on resource mangement and nature over profit. The fact that they do substances in rituals in a community should also be telling us a lot. I cannot imagine myself to wanting to be part of that even if it would benefit humanity on a whole but that just shows how im just as conditioned to the ego driven materialist worldview of today as the next person.and because im going to much offtopic i think this thread deserve a mention of the "Red Book" by jung. but i heavent read it my self desuu~
>>39141650>Red Book" by jung. but i heavent read it my self desuu~Thats the basic one lol. But as for your other point. Like I said, 10% of men can and are normal. One does not require nature and commune that heavily. A rural farmer, practicing his trade (they are 3% of most urban nations), usually is mentally healthy. If he partakes in modern media then he becomes unhealthy. But tradies also are mostly healthy as they do not repress their shadow masculinity. They use that masculinity to make moneys. To barter, to improve their craft. That sort of stuff is good for the psyche. Keeps em healthy mostly. But all other people that I meet are mostly degenerated quite deeply. They have no energy, no desire to solve problems. No desire to build. Lazy, unfulfilled, unrealized. Half infantile "men". They do not pursue the Greek heroes mythos. To be the best at something. The faustian spirit, to break conformity and to exceed. That stuff is what the european man is supposed to do. Any almost none of them do it.
This might be useful for someone.
>>39141680strong disagree, desire is root of all evil but im thankfull for your response.
>>39141126>astrology>real powerOk sure, so you can read the archetypes playing out in someone's chart.But can you change your own archetypes?
>>39141609I have heard good things about this book. Yet to read it
>>39141578>feminist oppressionIf only we had IRL Amazonians, it'd at least sort out so many simps.The problem is that the feminine is not integrated and the masculine is unbalanced.Just look at the number of brain-scans showing enlarged left-brain hemishpheres.
>>39141419>People aren’t fucking stupid, they know exactly what their own ‘shadows’ are, they face them every night before bed in quiet rumination.t.man wihout a shadow wat do
>>39136857You’re not even initiated your opinion is worthless. There are very few people who have studied Jung honestly and still thought he was bullshit
>>39141049>>39141099>>39141567>>39141609>>39141614Thank you for all the responses, I am amazed that searching on youtube doesn't bring much info about shadow work, I will look up the people you told me.
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>>39141680>>39141578>>39141547nice projections faglord
>>39136857Lol youre actually so fucking stupid its hilarious
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>>39146098It's karl young
>>39139050why not just read Jung's book? It was written for the masses and it was his last book. its free. https://antilogicalism.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/man-and-his-symbols.pdf
yeah he's a total genius. i heard some guy say he's like the alchemical mix between spirituality and psychology or something like that. a psychoshaman for the modern man. a true healer in every sense of the word. saint scientist. his insights hold keys to totally world re-orienting realizations. the fact he was able to delineate the shadow, the world soul, synchronicities, the collective unconscious should be proof enough of his importance. nobody talked about these things cause they'd been lost to time. the ancient peoples & wisemen knew about spirit, about the self, about the truth, the connectedness of the universe, but it had been slowly lost as our world turned more & more material. Jung managed to somehow make a serious dent into the hard-headed material noosphere at the time. still i see him being criticized for being too cooky and "out there", being too spiritual.. which is stupid. not only did he unearth these universal, cosmic truths about humans and our psyche, he also totally invented new ideas which, to this day, if looked at through the right lenses and with the right mind can allow you to explore totally new, totally radically, cosmic ideas about who we are, about what spirituality actually is, about the minutiae, the details of exactly how this universe communicates with itself through us.we are but communicators in essence, we are just vessels for a cosmic poetry. but the question of what WE are exactly. the minutiae of identity is something which no other scholar has dissected quite as masterfully as my nigga jung. the topic of identity is something that will forever evolve i believe, the more we peer outwards, the more we peer inward, like an ever revolving kaleidoscope which has no real end as we dissect deeper and deeper levels of complexity in this thing we call "self". you can discover the whole universe within yourself and Carl Jung did us a great service by noting down his explorations. i might write more.. i like jung
>>39136558its not your role to point out others' shadow, the journey is inward, not outward.
>>39141713personally id start with Man and His Symbols. and honestly thats all you need. I own a copy of the big "The Red Book" but i dont read it because it was not really supposed to be published, way too personal to Jung and his family didnt approve. i have as a collector item and so one less copy circulating
>>39141650The Red Book isnt really authored by Jung, rather it is a collection of his personal journals and drawings. It shouldnt really exist. I have a copy but i dont dare read it, wouldnt make any sense to me anyway
>>39146188we are the universe & the universe is us. that's where all of spirituality starts. the atoms creating the stars is the same as our neurons, basic chemistry. the implications of this simple starting fact is that "spirituality" is not some gobbledygook but a scientific fact. Jung managed to marry these ideas in so many ways that its absolutely beautiful. i've been meaning to read rudolf steiner as well, the whole "anthroposophy" field seems interesting. the hindus started this whole thing, ya know? delineating our psyche. hindu practicioners i've spoken to have said they're "scientists of the soul". the hindus were the OG grandaddies of delineating the self. they have books and books about all the minutiae its crazy. all the little intermingling and contrasting layers of complexities of what the soul is... its incredible. the vedics searched their soul and wrote it down too, but in a totally different way from Jung, but i have a good feeling that whoever will discover the next great frontiers of the self will have to do some deep diving into Vedic literature.anyway fuck all that, here's my shadow work. it's the only journey worth undertaking, it's necessary if you want to shine any of your light to the world. it's the most grueling task to undertake, but it's pretty much the only one worth doing if you're any person of any worth whatsoever. as soon as you stop being a child you will have inklings to push you to further frontiers of knowledge in both the external and internal world. any delving into the self will put you face to face with your shadow pretty quickly. i noticed my shadow around 20 and have been on a journey, still am, to figure it all out fully and come to terms with it. the biggest realization i've had recently is that You always walk hand in hand with your shadow.
>>39146345i can't tell you how many drugs i've taken, how many paintings i've made or how many social interactions i've had trying to fully, logically delineate all parts of my shadow and come to terms with even the most devastatingly selfish parts of the self. art & drugs were my single most important tools to in my journey. i started taking LSD when i was 18, but psychedelics are BY FAR the most devastatingly confrontational and neo-cortically intensive tools you can use to chainsaw through the barriers of your brain withholding you from fully seeing your shadow. these different states of mind allow for a free flow, a confidence, a supple bravery and intense insight which nothing else will be able to give you. mushrooms, ketamine, salvia (very good), LSD, DMT have all helped me immensely helpful in my journey. art is also, i think, a must for anybody trying to fully delineate their shadow. the free flow externalizations of whatever is bubbling up inside you is immensely powerful. Jung did this in the red book, i made pastels and shit.. it does 2 things: it actually externalizes the feelings, you actively push them out of your psyche, it feels like a release to project your psyche unto a medium which has metaphor, color, text, symbols, imagery and 2: you can actually look back on the work you've done and analyze them, you can look at the medium and take your time to contextualize all the metaphors, colors, symbols in a grander image of the rest of the search into the self/shadow work you're doing.i would take drugs and paint at the same time.. all the deepest things would bubble right up to the surface and out would come little pastel A4's which held key insights into my psyche.
>>39146376facing your own shadow for me has also been actual social experimentation. the shadow preys on other people, right? its effects are mostly limited to interactions with other people, projections unto others, right? so a massive part of my shadow work was trying to manipulate people.. trying to make people feel bad about themselves.. trying to lure people.. scheming for people.. pretty dreadful stuff, I did it for about a year and turned into a total demon by the end of it. but it was all necessary. i had to come to the total logical conclusion of my shadow, and there were parts of my shadow that really enjoyed preying on people's love, so i had to experiment.i'd turn myself into the worst version of my shadow, not caring about anybody, only looking for their love and appreciation and then eating it up and giving nothing back, sometimes making them feel miserable in the end. emotional manipulation, games and shit. i remember doing it on 4chan too. i'd do these things and then assess my own psyche as i looked up the evil triad psychology types, narcissism, poring over wikipedia pages and obscure psychological sources talking about egoism, delusions, histrionic personality types.. all kinds of shit. to give me a deeper insight into not just my own psyche, but our psyches in general. what makes us tick, what makes us hungry for love, what makes us angry and jealous. what is pride exactly? what is the evil eye? how do we communicate with eachother? what exactly is emotional manipulation? where is the line between real love and false love? all these things became clearer and clearer to me as i delved into the recesses of my soul and became more and more of a love hungry demon. i think you learn the most from the extremes, ya know? so i went to the extremes, the shallow waters have never been for me, so i dived head first into my shadow.
>>39146420i learned, as jung did, that its extremely important to fully get to know your shadow. and also; That We Always Walk Hand In Hand With Our Shadow. it's not something to be "defeated", or "destroyed" like i think many people think they have to do. they can't. it's impossible to destroy an inherent part of yourself. you have to UNDERSTAND it. you have to grasp how your shadow functions, what it does, what it likes to do, what it doesn't like to do, where its weaknesses & strengths are. and then you have to accept it. you have to learn to let your shadow do its own thing. "i used to be afraid of my demons, now they're filing my 401k and paying my bills" the smartest people let their shadow do their own thing because the shadow has a lot more fire than the other parts of the self. it's where desire lies, it's where mental trickery lies, it's where a lot of understanding of the world actually comes from. you can never defeat the shadow, you have to learn what it does, you have to understand it like the jockey understands the wild beast he rides upon. you can steer it in the right directions, pull it back when it needs to be pulled back, fully let go in case of a sprint, but you have to accept it fully and let it do its thing. how can you possible defeat something that's inside of you? it's impossible? how can you fight yourself? "shadow boxing" has never had a decisive winner, only 2 losers and broken mind. i'm still on my way to fully grasping my shadow, it's been about 5 years now and through those years it has always been in the back of my mind as i progressed through life. i've come to terms with a lot of things, but there's still subtleties i have to figure out, especially in the domain of Giving Love. maybe this writing is a tiny experiment where i've given my story without wanting anything in return.. i used to not be able to do that until i said "feast, demon"
>>39146462i've developed my own understanding of the psyche using Jung's framework, but also the DSM 5 psychological categorizations, C.I.A. psychological categorizations, anthropology, ethnic differences and also a serious amount of hermeneutics . the study of religions holds the most amount of insight to me. they hold the key to the ultimate basis of our being, how our most primal, spiritual, connected parts of our brain actually makes sense of the world. you can glean so much from how christianity categorizes the 7 sins, or how buddhism delves into the utmost of non-being, or how the hindus totally delineate every aprt of their belief, with hundreds of deities & sub-deities. deities are basically deeply embedded structures in our brain which relate to how we make sense of the world. the oldest form of worship are sun & nature worship, thatt's all we could see and make sense of, oh I live in a world with trees, and animals and the ground, Oh and this giant thing in the sun which makes everything feel warm and nice.. Oooh the night is unknown and instills fear in me.. so yeah we only understood those basic things and then could only worship those things. a really, really basic structure & connective string of ideas in our brain is the power structure, how we keep of power. that structure can be traced back to lobsters & probably far older too, germs probably understand when its weaker or stronger than something. Nietzsche understood this basic principle of the universe and it can actually be tied to what we worship...so yeah, we only understood "nature" and "the sun" and understood they held power over us so we worshipped them. "All hail this thing which I cannot overcome"....i'm getting drunk in the desert btw, apologies if this makes little sense or some sentences are off, but I just got back into writing all this shit out, feels good.
>>39141609robbert a johnson is actually amazingalso bumping jung
>>39146922then as our brains evolved, we managed to make more sense of how the world works. THE COMPLEXITY OF OUR UNDERSTANDING EVOLVED. the egyptians had a deity for Death. they understood "death" as a concept and realized it had power over them so they worshipped it, made elaborate art for this concept called "Death" , sacrificed themselves for it, created tributes and altars to it. I swear hermeneutics holds the key to understanding what it means to be human. they had dieties for a good harvest, for the hunt, etc.. The greeks had a pantheon of Gods for worshipping the weather and that almighty concept of Lightning & Thunder held the most might in their poetic, sensitive souls. They'd create elaborate stories, grand epics detailing the love lives of their deities, the greeks were SENSITIVE souls, a very romanticizing type of people.. but the point is they realized thunder & lightning held supreme power over them and worshipped them, they considered these deities eternal, all-knowing, out-of-reach.. you see where i'm going with this?who is God? what is God? what is it... the ultimate alchemical combination of heaven and earth, of spiritual and material. the ultimate understanding of in & out. the ultimate realizations of everything.Jung did some good work, but I got my own ideas.God is just the universe. God is everything. It guides us. What is intuition? where does it come from? what guides us? what is that little voice in the back of your head which only seems to steer us into the direction of LOVE. anybody know what LOVE truly is? it's the universe talking to itself. you can see it in the eyes of dogs as you walk past them and they linger for a second longer. it's the weird fact that plants seem to be alive and that we need to "touch grass" to feel alive and healthy. it's the weird fact you can tell when people are looking at you... humans are conduits of the universes consciousness. very powerful conduits because of our very advanced complexity.
>>39146961plants are good and all, but imagine having EYES which actually collapse quantum wavelengths of whatever we look at, imagine having a neocortex capable of constructing LANGUAGE which actually creates new ideas in the minds of other supremely evolved creatures (humans), imagine having the necessary tools to write down all this info and transmit it globally... my god.. a lot of ideas rushing into my head.. anyway, its a whole different can of worms.. complexity runs through our universe like my veins run throughout my body. the more complex something becomes the more powerful it becomes.all the keys of the universe can be understood by looking within. this is what the Taoists and Laozi understood, this is what the gnostics understood, this is what all the ancient alchemical masters understood, this is what Carl Jung understood. As Withing So Without. God Bless Laozi. The tao te ching has been a supremely important source for me over and over again. How he managed to capture such truth in such simple language goes beyond me... but anyway all those old fuckers had the keys of insight, but they didn't have the complex LANGUAGE to properly delineate and capture these truths. I'm sure 100 years from now we'll know a whole lot more, but for now I feel as though I'm on the forefront of all this shit. This ultimate combination of logos and techne. Idk this supreme understanding... so anyway, we've slowly developed more complex and more complex ways of making sense of the universe around us. Unlocking deeper & deeper paradigms of truth...
>>39147034anyway, what the fuck does it mean that our eyes collapse quantum wavelengths of whatever we look at? our VISION has such power, whatever we look at is changed indefinitely, it changes the course of their trajectory.. everything we do changes the trajectory of everything around us.. LOVE is a connection with the atoms around us.. there's evil too, when we are out of touch with the universe around us. this is what the shadow is, a separation from the universe. a lack of understanding, compassion, and a FEAR of connecting with the universe. "there's only 2 buttons in this game of life; LOVE & FEAR" - Kanye. That motherfucker gets it. Nietzsche gets it, Jung gets it, and Kanye gets it. They get it on a cosmic, primordial level. Also Laozu (is it Laozu or Laozi? idk) and Alfred Jarry... and Charles Manson too lol.. these people hold the keys to the universe. There's a Japanese cult leader who pops into my head too, but I forgot his name.. from Plato to Derrida and Zoroaster to Baudrillard, I feel all of their combined knowledge course through my veins.. Why? Because they are all me. they are all you. If you're reading this, I am you. You are me. Period. We are the universe talking, dancing with itself. Information gets stored GENETICALLY. a baby deer is born and understands it has to run for its life, i'm born and I'm afraid of spiders. Why? Because information travels genetically DNA is maybe God's greatest invention, molecular structure which stores data? a biological hard drive? are you fucking kidding me? GENIUS. absolutely fucking brilliant... totally radical.. look into the structure of that double helix and you'll see Heaven. Capital H, biatch.
>>39147081anyway.. we are all the same. we are all the universe, this is what spirituality is and how all the schizo theories, all the totally wacky out-there theories of our universe can be explained. Power is also a MASSIVE massive part of the whole picture. its a basic, primordial structure of the universe, every entity in this universe feels it in their quantum ligaments, from the ants to the black holes. the more you can conquer, the more you have freedom, the more you can shine YOU. (i'm imagining a black hole sending Heart emojis like "so proud of myself teehee, i LOVE MYSELF") after swallowing universe's worth of matter and life. LOL... they understand the concept of POWER, ya know. go ask a black hole what narcissism is LOL. they don't care about much haha. Go ask an ant what community is, go ask an ant why its such a weak bitch.. its not their fault... I fucking love ants... but anyway. POWER. ants have fights between colonies to decide whose the strongest one.. etc.. etc.. I'm getting fucking tired.. I'll check this thread tomorrow.. I don't care.. I'm gonna vibe to the new Tyler The Creator album.. see you fuckers tomorrow. Peace... and write some more probably.. some keys of truth, free of charge... LOVE you..
>>39147034>>39146961>>39146922>>39146462>>39146420>>39146376>>39146345>>39146188all of this off of free McDonald's wifi, btw I'm a fucking fiend for the data... GIVE ME ALL THE INFO RAAAWAR.. :)
>>39147099lovely read anon, im heading off to bed so i cant say much right now, happy halloween ;-)its amazing to read and think about other peoples constellation of thoughts and connections, i can really relate to your stream of consciousness writing and horizon expanding enthusiasm. i find it so interesting how we can read similar authors but take in different directions>15 minute delay again, fuck this shit change>>39147139you know what they say about the best things in life :-)
>>39137179capitalism :)
>>39146345Op here I am actually vedic and read that stuff yes. Pretty fun, also with ISKON like groups from time to time. >>39146462>>39146922Fun stuff about a PERSONAL thing of your shadow work. To be honest, I let my shadow go all of the time, I used to do it in the past. I have no real limit to it...but the main thing is that it just gets boring for me lol. One maybe cannot defeat his shadow, but one can transcend it. Love, hate, who the fuck cares lmao. You mentioned 4chan and the shadow acting out. Well thats true. The average 4channer when it first started let it reign free and thats the energetic thing that propelled 4chan to the top. The shadow addressed topics and feelings that nobody else was willing to talk about. I think that the way I live right now is I am the shadow. I express it daily, if it is warranted. To me, my additional vedic knowledge taught me the karmic laws. If someone is doing evil shit to me, and I know the laws. I just let my shadow roam free. Most people are just evil by default and dont think, or limit their shadow in any way or capacity. It is always funny to beat down a dude who is doing bad shit, being rude, shitty to people and then when he encounters me. I am far more rude back to him. He may not encounter such people even once for months, maybe years. But here I am. With a fully functioning and defined shadow lol. The shadow goes "I will tear off your head and shit down your neck" and off it goes. The shadow recognizes the shadows of other people, but they are wild. Not ordered. They never just accepted their shadow and the bad(ass) archetypes it brings along. (or bad moods of existing archetypes).If you speak in the language of a well defined archetype, shadow thing. To another person. You give reason, power and morality to the shadow and instead of the shadow it will just become your personality lol. That is why I say that its boring. Some days one archetype is the boss, another day, another archetype.
>>39146111yung karl
>muh shadow American self-help grifting industry has been a disaster for the mental health field>>39146188>>39146345>>39146376>>39146420>>39146462>>39146922You are a rambling junkie retard that should be under psychiatric supervision
This is one of the best books on actual, practical Jungian PSYCHOANALYSIS and not self-help nonsense that gets posted in threads like these, but good luck finding a copy
>>39147892Not on library genesis, if you can find a working mirror? The zwartz thing is also a professional. Focus on narcissism. >>39141609Dream symbology is also strong here. I read common psych books all the time and I have found these at least to be accurate. Maybe you dont know as much as you care to admit?
>>39136558I ge the impression that you're describing active imagination. It's not just for the shadow, but all aspects of the self. The shadow, for most people, seems to be a collection of unrecognized and unrealized psychic elements. It's a big house a full of people. Active imagination allows one to commune with those spirits. You just have to write everything accurately and not let the ego stifle the conversation. I've done it quite a bit.
