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Why would NASA lie? Why would experts lie about something like this? They have nothing to gain from lying about this, especially since it has zero effect on how people live their lives. Flat earthers have always been so dumb for no reason. They also NEVER have any substantial proof for their claim as opposed to the countless videos and live-feed broadcasts of the earth FROM SPACE ITSELF.

Flat Earth nuts are total idiots.
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loosh farming
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>>39138794
It's probably round, but I don't think we've ever left low earth orbit.
Those pictures are all from low earth orbit with added curvature and warping at the edges to make it look like you're seeing the whole planet.

That's why the majority of these pics never have any stars in them. They were literally caught doing this on one of the apollo missions, using a crescent shaped cutout to block part of the view and make it look like the Earth was far away.
Look up the video called "a funny thing happened on the way to the moon".
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>>39139613
Single pic, taken in three colors, and stacked.
Far far beyond LEO.
Ten pics a day, every day, for over a decade.
https://epic.gsfc.nasa.gov/
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Time to stop your hedonistic degenerate ways OP. You aren't random cosmic jizz floating in space.
https://ifers.forumotion.com/f1-the-international-flat-earth-research-society I recommend the stickies and the FAQ.Also make sure not to fall for glow nigger tricks like the flat earth society. Their creator would carry around a rock he claimed saved him from falling off the edge of the world. Pay no attention to those kike well poisoners. Best of luck anon.
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>>39138794
>Why would NASA lie?
Why can't NASA break free from Saturns ring?


>>>The Uranus Orbiter & Probe mission would deliver an in situ probe into Uranus's atmosphere.
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>>39138794
They lie because they don’t have a choice. Governments have to maintain an illusion of control. Them not knowing what this world even is makes them look powerless. So they create answers for everything.
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>>39138794
Are you in space right now looking at the beautiful curved earth? No? All you have is what your jew daddy told you? Opinion discarded.
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>>39138794
It’s also hollow
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I thought it was slight egg shaped?
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>>39138794
jews own EVERYTHING, and they specifically hate CHRISTIANS, who used to think the world was FLAT. Use ya noodle dummy.
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>>39138794
It's a fucking joke okay? WE were just JOKING. Look it up on YouTube these people even go to NASA
>Oh look look they're lying to us.
>I can see dah CURVE. THEY'RE LYING TO US
How do you not laugh at these retards?

People who don't get the joke are the idiots.
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>>39140187
Mythbusters proved it bitch. Check mate liberal
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>>39138794
>Flat earthers have always been so dumb for no reason.

Flat Earthers are *the* text book baseless conspiracy theorist:
-Makes a claim nobody fucking asked about. Proceeds to ruin their own life over it.
-Said claim requires the *participation of the entire fucking planet* to maintain.
-Actively refuses to do any actual scientific work, even simple field research: being disproven wrong is worse than proven right.
-Relies entirely on attacks on authority, character, 'macro' ad hominem.
-To some extent: Flat Earther's are used to undermine actual, like, meaningful conspiratorial thought and discussion.

With that said, every conspiracy is 17% true.
>The Earth is 100% round

It's actually a little lumpy.
Normally celestial bodies are completely spherical, more spherical than anything we could ever make in fact because gravity compresses it down on all sides equally: making it round.
The Earth, however, moves. Because it is alive. So its' lumpy.

>>39140359
>I thought it was slight egg shaped?

Yes, it's reminiscent of a reptile egg: round, spherical, somewhat oval shaped, with creases caused by internal movement.
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Flat Earth is just well poison because its so obviously false just on the face of it

Anytime they want to discredit something they just say
>a conspiracy like flat earth
people are just that simple thats all it takes
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>>39138794
>Why would NASA lie?
For their government funding.
>it has zero effect on how people live their lives
Then why are you so obsessed about pushing this perception of reality?
It does effect peoples lives - it makes people think they are meaningless and insignificant and that nothing matters.
Nihilistic propaganda.
>>39140359
They can't keep their story straight because it's a lie.
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>>39139613
>using a crescent shaped cutout to block part of the view and make it look like the Earth was far away
What do you think of this deboonk? Timestamp at 03:18
https://youtu.be/03x2MC3wv5Q?t=198
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>>39140534
>For their government funding
The government spent three times NASA's budget one year on tanks. Tanks that the Pentagon very explicitly said "we don't need, we don't want, it is a waste of money".
It is pure stupidity to think there has to be a thousands of years old conspiracy to make sure a tiny govt org gets a fraction of the budget.
>pushing this perception
There is no push. When people talk about reality, they use reality.
There are books where someone spent years and years trying to push flat earth.
There is no such book for reality. There are simply maps and navigation that work.
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I think instead of calling them idiots immediately just explain why they're wrong but then again that's not what this is about
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>>39140562
Don't pretend this is about truth.
You guys waste all this money and time just to make people miserable.
Why don't you guys spend all this effort talking about how 911 was an inside job and how they stole all the civilians money and power from it?
Why don't you care about anything that matters?
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How much do you faggots get paid? Your abilities are pretty weak. Is shit slow for you as you are needed less for the election puppet show or are you finding people are actually starting to look at the "flat earth" arguments? Can't have people eating from the tree of knowledge. Their eyes would be opened and they might find out that the garden they are living in is actually a plantation where they are being held captive by the chains that are their false beliefs. Good night, glowniggers. I hope you choke to death nibbling baby foreskins.
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>>39140534
Here's a simple exercise

God #1 creates an infinite, ever expanding universe, self perpetuating and fine tuned to an infinitesimal degree, manifested through the laws of physics, not only does he create everything and all life on earth, God #1 has a special relationship with a specific species that he personally nurtures and takes care of in an arbitrary sector of said ever expanding universe, and said species gets special VIP treatment from God #1, out of all the possible lifeforms and all the possible spots in an infinite sea he picked you, and he loves you.

God #2 on the other hand, creates a finite, almost laughably small universe, consisting of a small, circular plane and a glass like dome ontop that sits in the middle of nothing, the biggest fucking nothing to ever not-exist, not only that, but this God cant be assed to build anything more complex than a moldy, humid dirt pizza, no stars (they're light spots painted in the dome), no gas giants, no black holes, no pulsars, no complex systems or laws, no other lifeforms, no evolution, nothing, zero, zilch, nada, big fat goose egg.

Which God would you rather worship? The one with an actual talent for his craft? The one that actually gives a shit in painting and refining and building? Or the one that either cant be assed or is incapable of coming up with what is essentially a massive petri dish?

Do you wanna worship the retard? Or the architect? Which one is more capable and more worthy of the title of Big G?
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>>39138794
>The Earth is 100% round
Proof.
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>>39140359
Only NASA can inject METHone pictures intp the veins of the internet!
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>>39138794
proven flat by long distance laser testing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUuOmNIZQP4

there's no argument against this other than that the lasers are faked.
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>>39138794
yeah buddy keep believing the mars rover is doing donuts on mars like in the movie Wall-E you NASA believers need to sober up, the glowies cant even go to outer space there is no going outer space they just get paid a retarded amount to larp about it every country is larping not one soul has crash landed on the moon
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>>39140611
>Don't pretend this is about truth
Glad a flerfer can admit it.
>You guys
Not everyone is paid to be here, shill.
>Why don't you care about anything that matters?
So lets hear you admit the YEARS AND YEARS of flat earthers pushing their threads was completely about something that doesn't matter.
Why did YOU GUYS push your falsehood if it isn't about anything that matters?
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>>39140739
How much does the beam expand over that distance?
Do you even know how to calculate that?
Are you so stupid you think laser beams don't expand?
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It's flat but reality bends in such a way that it appears round
Space is a black hole, earth is twisted around it. The universe is a torus and we are on the INSIDE
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It only matters if it's flat.
Anyways - flat earth was inserted into various circles so that noone would want to seek the truth about other things because they don't want to be seen as "someone so dumb, they believe earth is flat".
We all already know that God exists, and denying it won't make evil win.
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I don't believe there are actual intelligent flat earth believers. I think the dumb ones are falling for a psysop.
See, you go on the internet, you notice people talking about something like Mt. Rushmore. But they're all saying things like "Kind of weird water erosion can carve people's face into a mountain but hey, nature's weird."
But you're like me. If you were an American, the CIA would have given you enough LSD to evaporate your humanity and a gun because you have the Autism/ADHD combo that makes a 100% psyop resistance buff. You remember learning these were man-made carvings, so you say "Hey, I thought these were man-made."
You're immediately, quickly, inundated with replies calling you out for being so staggeringly fucking stupid as to believe man even could carve a face into a cliff. You're disrespecting native holy sites. You're even given a multiparagraph, sourced and cited comment explaining exactly how wind and water carved 4 U.S. presidents into a cliff face.
But again Autism Psyop resistance. You start asking why ChatGPT is trying to convince you wind and water are better than men at carving faces into rocks.
(I'm gonna get a police visit for this one, lay bets.)
Then you remember a deleted reddit blog post. And you remember that the most reddit addicted city named in that blog post is Elgin Air Force Base. With more unique visitors than the population of thst base and its surrounds.
Well, what do they do at Elgin? Officially Cyber Research. Unofficially they astroturf the fuck out of online debate.
Why? Because if all the internet is ChatGPT arguing with itself, they get to determine what you see. The government has always used the media to manufacture public consent, now they do it with social media. The flat earth debate is, I believe an astroturfing campaign to reduce the number of people who will care WHEN they cut all funds to NASA and erect Space Force.
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What is "round"? What is "space"? What are "stars"? What doth life?
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>>39141038
You'll notice now they're strong arming people out of speaking candidly about morose subjects. Women aren't raped, they're "graped." People aren't killed, they're "unalived." The pope isn't shielding pedophiles, he's shielding "pdf files."
This is another way of control. This isn't organic zoomer slang, zoomers have never done anything organically of their own volition. This is an extension of a linguistic idea, Sabdor-Worf Hypothesis, the language you speak determines the ideas it's even possible for you to have. So if you minimise the language, you minimise independence.
There's also a strong trend suggesting journalists are collaborators. Remember when Joker came out and they insisted that it was an incel movie primed to cause mass shootings? And then what happened? Nothing happened. But the journalists and critics all insisted. They didn't actually believe this, they were told to. Because the media is again, a tool for the government to manufacture consent to their preferred outcomes.

Everything you can or will see on the internet is government approved. "Advertiser friendly" was a scapegoat. They employ people to artificially drown out every human voice available.
You think the resurgence of continental European philosophies like Nazism and Communism is something that just happened on its own? No, if it were organic you'd never have heard about it.

Proof: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0005109815001375
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>>39140903
no, its a globe.
rent a boat and sail around it, or just look at the ISS at night, its flight path proves the globe.
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>>39138794
If we see the curve of the earth at this height, then it is much smaller than what we are told.

This photo is fake, and the question is, why do they make fake photos?

Just to show a curve?

The truth does not need trickery, propaganda and censorship, but lies do.
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>>39141081
>This photo is fake, and the question is, why do they make fake photos?
As someone who has made their career in cameras, has been called as an expert witness in pretty extreme criminal trials to verify and debunk the claim that camera footage had been altered, and has actually been on a team designed some hot technology that's gonna make IMAX look like a fucking joke if and when it ever becomes financially feasible (and the Humane Society will flip their shit if they ever find out what we made it out of)...
The reason is, because cameras are complicated, consumers are bad at using them and the government is almost worse than consumers.
About the only people who know how to use cameras properly are in Hollywood. And that's only a few of them. I actually saw La La Land for the first time the other day. First shot in the movie was overexposed and I wanted to fucking die.
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If there were more continents and you would like to keep a certain population from knowing and exploring those lands, it would be a clever perception trick. Draw the known lands on a ball in endless empty space.

Not saying this is true, but that's what i would do, if I wanted to keep cattle in a closed space.
Maybe earth is not flat, but just way bigger than we think. Who knows
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>>39141081
of course its not fake, and we live on a globe.
just go look at the ISS flight path, sweetie.
>photos are fake
they arent.

since 2015 we have DSCOVR which sits in a stable location between us and the Sun, a million miles away, and takes about a dozen whole-Earth photos a day and is compiling a large image database (and no photo-shopped composites). NASA posts them on a very awesome website here:

https://epic.gsfc.nasa.gov/
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>>39141106
no, its not bigger, we know exactly how big our globe is, we have the entire surface mapped for a long time now.
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>>39138794
Aravat The Container of reality in the macrocosm:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSUyp0BHwOw
Aravat creations living inside his microcosm:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byQTkmKTGg8
Aravat and his morning star Venus:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lW9WmZpaaNk
Aravat creating inside his mind:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rx31y1KKK3E
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zyw3RhmRlsQ

This world is controlled by Lucifer, who deceived the nations with his Freemasonic builders. One day the synagogue of Satan shall bow down before the overcomer, who is a Christian, from Revelation 3:7-13 (google it). This overcomer shall start the beginning of the time when the saints shall rule with rods of iron, while the manchild of Revelation 12 is raptured before Satan can assassinate him.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FT24b6WSrEA
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Xg0y5iX4tk
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSHkXVOyHMI
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZNLZi_rWWw
It's Jesus in the body of Christ us born again with the Holy Ghost VS the body of Satan who are the people of disobedience working in the angel of the air who is Lucifer.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5Fc60OStwY
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzzF683maSQ
Once the world acknowledges Satan's defeat, then let us elect a new president that shall reveal the truth, eventosay the shape of the earth, and the nature of space above with the reveal of high strangeness, and extraterrestrial life and UFO technology.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71SrHG-B-8o
Just show us all the truth already?
Or are you Governments waiting for Jesus to return and do it instead?
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>>39141120
If you say so
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>>39141138
>If you say so
if you think there are some gigantic continents nobody has ever noticed for some reason, go rent a boat and find them.
We'll wait here for an update.
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>>39141152
>no one ever
Elites yes, not the general population.

And they will shoot me if I try to pass Antarctica bro
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>>39141169
no, nobody will shoot you, there are no naval blockades to any magical huge continents.
just.... rent a boat and try to find them.

btw, you dont even need to, actually, because the current maps of the globe work, so they prove the size of our globe.
or, you can look at the ISS, its flight path proves both the size of the globe, and the fact that were on a globe.
its super cool.
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>>39141181
>rent a boat and try to find them.
would be cool ngl
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>>39141190
>sailing around
its called "vacation", people with jobs have it.
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>>39141194
Why are you so bitter?
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>>39141169
>they will shoot you for going to antarctica meme
Mother fucker, I've been there. Go to Argentinia, it's a day and a half boat ride away. First day I wandered from my tour group and took a shit in the snow.

About a 2 kilometre walk south from your port, I forget the name but it's the most used one departing from Argentinia, dig through anout 6 years of snow and you will find my frozen turd.
And guess what? No bullet holes in me.
They'll only shoot you if you try to plant a flag.
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>>39141200
im allergic to stupidity.
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>>39141208
As you can read in my first post, I said I don't know.
Just asking questions and wondering about things.
But I'm glad you have it all figured out
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first, no not giving my position, nor my country
ok, let's go
The Earth isn't flat OR round, the surface of the planet, as far as most of the governments know IS STILL UNKNOWN
I work in the government of my country for three years, the reason why we will never get the answer that you crave is because
1- Water reserves are bullshit, I personally saw the water reserves of one of the cities in my country dry, rain doesn't fix it in a day, we had NO WATER, yet nothing changed, suddenly a week later the reserves are full again, they filled an entire well in a week, all of this happened while being televised, a fake "warning the water is running dry so please don't use too much" then memoryholded by the TV channels, happens at least once a year
2 if you ask about it, even working in the government they'll tell you that the reserves are looking fine and we have more thanks to the mountains, our mountains ARE ALMOST DRY, no snow, there are no huge water procession power plants around them, just little rivers flowing, if you keep asking, you'll get very VERY absurd answers FROM THE PEOPLE IN CHARGE
3 the only clue that I ever had was from a higher up in a party that told me "they bring it every week alongside the beef why are you asking man? you thought we can feed raise kill cut and process that amount of meat for the whole place in a fucking day? they bring it somewhere I still don't know there's a committee of people that I never met in charge of it, better ask no questions"
4 the amounts of cows chickens and mountains that we would need to feed the whole planet DAILY is absurd, it's impossible, it all comes from somewhere, and they lie about the Earth shape because a round Earth implies LIMITED RESOURCES, limited resources imply control over the entire population on Earth, with limitless resources the whole system would collapse because it would mean that you don't need to work like a slave to waste everything on expensive shit, because it's limitless
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>>39141078
When reality itself bends, you could be taking 10 steps in 1 direction, stop, look back, and see that you moved in the opposite direction entirely, and it still does not invalidate the fact that you moved in your 1 initial direction.
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>>39141283
>i dont know
well now you know.
>But I'm glad you have it all figured out
its not that hard, in fact, its super easy to figure it out.
>>39141290
its a globe, we have the entire surface mapped.
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>>39141290
>dumbfuck civilian doesnt realize his shithole country's elite rations all the resources for the plebs
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>>39138794
As Reddit as this is, you do have a point. I've never understood the point of flat Earth. Like with most conspiracy theories, there's a logical through line that's pretty reasonable, like fluoride being a tool for population control because everyone needs to drink water sonit would make sense to drug our water, but I can't find any similar readonajbg to flat Earth.

I think flat Earthers realise this which is why they use that insane line of "NO GLOBE = NO GRAVITY = NO EVOLUTION = POPULATION CONTROL"
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>>39141334
the point of flat earthers is to get people to question science and institutions so we become easier for russia to annex
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>>39141334
>I've never understood the point of flat Earth.
so they can tell you that water is running out, same with meat, same with land, same with everything else so you can be a good goy, globe Earth is the ultimate goyim maker because it guarantees that your entire population will become either wageslaves, neets or criminals because the planet has been brainwashed to live and die for money, nothing else
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>>39141340
If they'll stop all this Troon shit then let them come
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>>39141347
Why would the Earth being round have any relevance to any of these things? I don't understand your logic here. I believe the Earth is round so I think meat is running out? Why would I think that?
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>>39141362
>Why would the Earth being round have any relevance to any of these things?
as far as I know for over 30 years they don't stop repeating that the mountains are running dry, that we're killing the forests and running out of Oxygen (?) global warming all related to the globe shape of the Earth because there's no beyond, it's a round jail, with a flat Earth all the lies that you been fed for decades make no sense, basically holding humanity hostage because there's no "beyond" Earth, it's a globe and you're trapped forever, also the globe is running out of resources so be a good slave and work more for less or pay more for the things that used to be cheap, etc, etc
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>>39141334
>>39141340
>>39141347
im pretty damn sure that all flat earthers are jews, flat earth is literally the main foundation of the talmud and judaism.
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>>39139613
>using a crescent shaped cutout to block part of the view and make it look like the Earth was far away.
no they didn't. Sibrel just cut it out of context and lied about it being 'secret footage'. watch the whole thing in sequence, like it broadcast live on TV.
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>because in my childish mind lasers are immune to refraction
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>>39141095
proof? links to originals? not even a name or source mentioned in the pic lol
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>>39141106
>you would like to keep a certain population from knowing and exploring those lands
Why wouldnt you want your workers to go exploit lands and grow your wealth?
You think the elites are out there working the mines in this unknown land?
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>the flight path of the ISS on a pizza earth would look like a NASCAR race track
>flight path of the ISS on a globe is a straight line
if you look at the ISS with your own eyes, what is its flight path?
Is it doing a NASCAR, or going straight?
>its straight
Looks like i won again! : )
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>>39141358
So you would rather someone enslave you than allow someone else to live a way you think is weird.
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>>39141377
How is this any different if you are on a flat plane where you cant leave your location?
Have you ever even been outside your country?
What difference would it make if, hypothetically, you heard of another country where all things were great with no scarcity - but you will be killed if you ever try to go there?
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>>39141571
yes anon i would rather be ruled by reptilians or extra-dimensional vampires if it meant i dont have to watch any more fags, trannies, or black people.
BEAM ME THE FUCK UP.
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>>39141584
Why dont you just pluck out your eyes?
You would have a better life than enslavement, and you wouldnt have to see anything.
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>>39141586
no, i would rather pluck the eyes of these sexual degenerates, or just put them in gas chambers and get it over with.
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>>39138794
You force people to believe in the science slop of NASA. They live their life and see earth as being flat, simple as that. They don't live in outer space and see it as a sphere. Your unsympathetic religiously zealous NASA defending ass makes you blind to their pov. It may not be the "objectively" correct view. Who really knows. Yes, who really knows, you heard that right. Probably not the priests of the religion you adore. By the way, most believe it, so isn't that enough? Life is more complex than believing everything you hear from certain organizations. Yes, I know it's difficult to contemplate that.
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>>39141595
But then you would still see them. You said you didnt want to see them, but your answer is really stupid and ineffectual.
you realize it's the commie lizards that poush trannies, right?
You want the people that push this shit to enslave you.
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>>39141599
people knew we live on a globe before 1958, sweetie.
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>>39141604
no im pretty sure i wouldnt see any more sexual degenerates if they all got gassed.
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>>39141606
Yes and some people know aliens abducted them. Some people believe in a man in the sky, some people believe string theory is real. Some people believe in ESP and some people think spooky quantum phenomena are weird.
People know all kinds of stuff. You are just a zealot and completely indoctrinated in one mode of living. It's a hard pill to swallow. Takes an expanded mind state to grapple this topic.
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>>39141611
You asked to be the slave of people who advocate for trannies.
You would see nothing but black trannies for your entire, artificially-extended life.
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>>39141617
>some people believe in ghosts
the difference is, the globe is just common sense and its easily proven.
just.... sail around the globe, thats all you have to do.

if you dont know how, ask the portugese, the spanish, the italians, the french, the british or the germans, they're pretty good at sailing around the globe.
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>>39141634
Australians, too.
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>>39141639
or we can just ask anybody who ever went on vacation, lmao.
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>>39141599
>Who knows
Anyone who has ever observed the moon over a period of a month. Don't be such a fucking "enlightened centrist", the flat earthers are pretty obviously incorrect.
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>>39141634
You'd have to sail across the arctic "pole" to prove that with sailing.
The flat earth is still circular.
Of course the arctic and "antarctic" are off limits.
WHO TF HAS TIME AND MONEY TO "JUST GO SAILING".
I HATE YOU WEALTHY BALL EARTHERS WITH NOTHING TO DO BUT WASTE TIME AND MONEY ON LIES.
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>>39141599
>who really knows
i do, i sailed around the globe and i saw the ISS with my own eyes at night, many times.
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>>39141654
>You'd have to sail across the arctic "pole"
nope
>WHO TF HAS TIME AND MONEY TO "JUST GO SAILING".
people who have jobs.
>that map
i fucking died from laughter.
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>>39141654
You could also measure the distance traveled and use math to figure out which projection is closer to your measurements, but math is hard and flerthers are retarded.
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>>39141654
>You'd have to sail across the arctic "pole" to prove that with sailing.
which retarded 2 hour long youtube clip told you that?
just do pic related.
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>>39141648
Yeah but Jon has done it 12 times now.
I'd suggest someone trying to pay him to let them tag along, but I doubt he wants anyone else with him when he does it.
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>>39141674
>>39141661
>>39141639
>>39141648
You guys don't even know what you're arguing against.
South is center, north is the outer sides.
You think I believe whatever random square map the controllers put out?
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>>39141634
>>39141654
sailing around antarctica would be the best option. if you sail around it, earth is a globe; if it stays always around you, its the ice wall on the edge.
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>>39141725
>South is center
It's still a globe.
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>>39139862
where are the stars?
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>>39141725
if a map of a thing works, it means that this map just proved the shape of that thing : )
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>>39141751
in space : )
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>>39141751
where's you most basic understanding of photography?
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>>39141751
The camera is focused such that the earth takes up the entire FOV.
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>>39141773
Meaning the black you see around this is purely to make the image a square. The actual picture is circular.
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The moon emits its own light.
Look at it with your own eyes, it is clearly far too bright to be a "reflective rock".
>>39139862
>>39141773
CGI
>>39141739
So called "antarctica" IS the center of the flat earth.
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>>39141781
i didn't know that about EPIC, thanks. But of course, the fag above was just raising that most retarded of moonhoax arguments.
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>>39141791
>So called "antarctica" IS the center of the flat earth.
this is some new radical flat earth position for which you have as much evidence as for the old position - zero.
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>>39141791
>The moon emits its own light.
no it doesnt.
>Look at it with your own eyes, it is clearly far too bright to be a "reflective rock".
no its not, its not that brightly lit.
>So called "antarctica" IS the center of the flat earth.
no its not, who told you that?
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>>39141769
what do you mean
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>>39141792
I might be wrong, but that is my understanding.
There's a lot of complexity in the camera, but most of it is in making sure it is pointed at the Earth properly.
It actually needs to compare the stars to an internal chart as part of it, but that isnt accurate enough to really line up each of the shots.
>>39141773
>muh cgi
lol
>So called "antarctica" IS the center of the flat earth.
So now you are saying the NORTH Pole is 30,000 miles, and impossible to go directly from one side to another?
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>>39141816
i got like a 1000 night pics and not even 1 star on them.
depends on the camera and exposure time.
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>>39141820
what exposure time do you think that was without any streaks in it
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wow so cool *-*
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>>39141829
>what exposure time do you think that was without any streaks in it
not long, probably a badass camera did it.
>>39141840
awesome, i love space stuff so much.
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it's really all cgi at this point
technology has reached the level that you can't take a fake apart from reality
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>>39141844
of course its not cgi, you can see the ISS with your own eyes.
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>>39141803
You push the ball earth lie, but think you can decide what flat earth is too?
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>>39141842
>awesome, i love space stuff so much.
why are there stars?
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>>39141847
that doesn't mean what you see in the picture is from the iss, does it?
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>>39141842
>probably a badass camera did it.
don't they disclose what camera they are using?
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suddenly so many stars *-*
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whoooah
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wtf i love space now!
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i've looked at iss footage since the millenium and never seen anything like that
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>>39141840
>stars next to a glaring light source
i have to revisit my understanding of photography
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>>39141850
why wouldnt there be stars?
>>39141854
it actually does mean its from the ISS, you can track it LIVE.
>>39141856
dunno, never bothered to check the model of the camera.
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>>39141879
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>>39141890
what was the exposure time?
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>>39141888
>it actually does mean its from the ISS, you can track it LIVE.
how does tracking it mean what you see is from the iss?
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>>39141893
No idea. Just pics I've previously grabbed to show what would be required to have the stars show up in the single photographs of bright objects.
In both pics, that is a crescent Moon, and the "dark" part would not be visible to the naked eye.
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>>39139862
>ITS TOTALLY REAL
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if i put a fake earth shot next to a real one would you be able to tell the difference?
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>>39141899
>how does tracking it mean what you see is from the iss?
you can see the ISS with the naked eye, thats why.
>oh look i can see the iss, its over me
>look at the live feed
>oh look, its correct!
nice!
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>>39141913
how do you know that the video is from the iss tho?
if it can be tracked than cgi footage can be aligned or is that impossible?
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>>39141908
sure, why wouldnt it be? do you have a better idea what the planet is?
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>>39141922
>I SEE A PLANE FLY
>BRO HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT PLANE IS REAL AND NOT CGI
BECAUSE I CAN SEE IT YOU HALFWITTED DENSE INBRED MOTHERFUCKER.
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>>39141933
you see the plane but not what the plane see, do you?
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>>39141939
Irrelevant. Watch its path. It never curves. The ISS ONLY goes in a straight line. This is ONLY possible because the Earth is a globe. It is why, when you show the Earth as flat, you need to show it's path curving, even though IF YOU LOOK AT IT IN REAL LIFE, you will se it never does.
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>>39141939
>BROKEN ENGRISH
why is it always brown people.
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>>39141951
i forgot an s and wrote than instead of then
wow you got me
>>39141950
you keep moving goalposts why is that?
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>>39141959
Didnt move shit.
Not that anon.
I am adding another way you can directly observe for yourself.
If you ever put in the effort.
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>>39141959
nobody has moved any goalposts, the ISS proves the globe with its flight path, case closed, globe proven.
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>>39141963
how does that have anything to do with the cgi footage from the iss?
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>>39141968
Your argument over the veracity of the footage is irrelevant. As I first said.
You can DIRECTLY OBSERVE what I said.
If you ever go outside.
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>>39141968
nobody cares if you dont like the pictures, the fact thats its flight path proves the globe is enough.
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>>39141975
>>39141976
i'm not talking about the flat earth, i'm talking about the fake cgi footage
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>>39141982
No one cares if NASA lies.
I care about directly observable proof that anyone who thinks it is important can go do.
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>>39141988
but how do you know the footage isn't cgi?
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>>39141994
I dont care.
What importance is it that some governments propaganda is lying?
Earth is still a globe, and one whose circumference you can calculate.
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>>39141999
why would they show you cgi footage instead of reality?
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>>39142002
I dont care.
I dont consider them relevant when determining the shape of the surface I am on.
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>>39141982
>>39141994
>>39142002
nobody cares if you dont like these pictures, or if that NASA is a boo-boo or not, we know Earth a globe, and thats it, i honestly couldnt give less of a flying fuck if photoshop is used to make these space pics look better.
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>>39142006
but why would they show you fake cgi footage of something they could just record without the trouble of creating fake cgi shots?
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>>39142011
to make it look cooler : )
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>>39142014
what for?
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>>39142011
I dont care.
It has no relevance to the fact that Earth is a globe.
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>>39142020
so you don't care they are spending tax payer money to create fake shots of something they could take with a real camera? why not?
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>>39142018
>>39142026
best part, they're probably not even fake, too.
nobody cares if they are or they arent touched up in photoshop, we know its a globe either way.
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well since you don't care there's no point in talking to you anyway
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>>39142026
>wahhhh the demon enslavement includes yet another lie of some tiny tiny fraction of the pieces of paper they say are valuable and control NPCs with
Earth.
Globe.
Directly Observable.
Or here - have a goal I will never move. Prove me wrong.
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>>39142037
we only care to talk about evidence of the globe, discussing your personal picture preference is a waste of time.
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>>39138794
just no
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>>39141816
what do you mean what do i mean?

>>39141859
>>39141867
clearly longer exposures and/or hdr stacking
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>>39141909
depends what you mean by fake
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>>39142215
If it's a photo, stacking is most likely. Overlay multiple pics from the same location over various days. But how does that work with the auroras?
The flerfers' whole attempt at arguing is that the whole thing should be streaky if its a long exposure, or not showing stars if not.
I'm betting it's from a video camera that does not work in the same manner as taking a single photo.
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>>39142242
how does a video camera work?
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>>39142269
Depends on the camera.
What specifics can you give about the source of the images?
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>>39142285
what specifics do you think i can give?
i got it from a search engine
i asked the question if they do not disclose what camera they are using
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>>39142285
>>39142295
discussing pictures with the schizos is a waste of time.
just tell them its a globe, space is real, we landed on the moon, and thats it, case closed.
dont waste your time discussing pictures.
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>>39142295
So you dont even know if they are from NASA?
They could be complete fakes from China.
Why are you using pics you have no knowledge about as evidence of anything?
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>>39141859
This one is from here
https://eol.jsc.nasa.gov/SearchPhotos/photo.pl?mission=ISS057&roll=E&frame=35382

and the exposure info is a follows:
NASA PHOTO ID iss057e035382.NEF
GMT 2018:10:07 15:45:17
MODEL NIKON D5 S/N: 3502333
NASA SN and Temp NASA 3502333
Firmware Ver.N.10
Image Size 5584x3728
Compression Nikon NEF Compressed
Exposure Program Manual
Shutter 1.6
Aperture 1.4
Meter Mode Multi-segment
Shooting Mode Single-Frame
ISO Speed 20000
AF Area Mode Single Area

So, you have a really high iso meaning the sensor is being told to be very sensitive to light hitting it. It can reduce image quality with increased graininess. Aperture is wide open at 1.4, meaning more light can get in. Shutterpeed is 1.6 seconds. not that long but with the combination of the other two factors its clearly enough.

you can plus these numbers into exposure calcs and it will tell you that this image is entirely possible.
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>>39141867
This one is here
https://eol.jsc.nasa.gov/SearchPhotos/photo.pl?mission=ISS030&roll=E&frame=58649

Exposure data:

NASA PHOTO ID: iss030e058649.NEF

GMT: 2012:01:30 06:19:22

MODEL: NIKON D3S S/N: 2053892

NASA SN and Temp:

Firmware: Ver.1.01

Image Size: 4288x2844

Compression: Nikon NEF Compressed

Exposure Program: Manual

Shutter: 0.5

Aperture: 1.4

Meter Mode: Multi-segment

Shooting Mode: Single-Frame

ISO Speed: 3200

AF Area Mode: Single Area

Focal Length: 24.0 mm

Lens ID: AF-S Nikkor 24mm f/1.4G ED

DOF: 2.51 m (3.09 - 5.60)

Focus Mode: Manual

Focus Distance: 3.98 m

Subject Distance Range: Unknown

Compensation: -1/3


Not too dissimilar to the other one; high ISO, 1.4f, shutter speed of half a second. again not that long, but it keeps blur down.
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>NIKON D5
that's all it takes to take such pictures of stars with bright light sources
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>NIKON DS3
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>>39142415
you're just being willfully dense at this point. The ISS is in the dark, and you can easily see that the lights on the ground are brighter than the stars, but the difference between the two brightness's is a hell of a lot less than between a full moon and the stars.

And then look is picrel; see the massive difference a few stops of ISO makes to the light level while still keeping the same shutter and aperture settings?
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>>39142457
i think you've missed
>>39141840
>>39141816
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>>39138794
>There is no one who is of this earth. We appear to be of it, we feel as if we are: in reality we exist in the sky. Our nature is of the sky.
>Being means the inner sky.
>Body means the earth, the body is made of earth. You are made of sky.
>These two have met within you.
>You are the horizon where the earth seems to be meeting the sky. But has it ever met it? Far away the horizon appears – sky touching earth. Start walking towards it, expecting to reach it in a minute or two. Continue walking for life after life – you will never reach a place where the sky touches the earth. It is only a mirage. It always appears that you can touch it a little further on, just a little further.
>The horizon does not exist, it only appears to. It is the same inside us as with the outer horizon. Inside no contact ever happens either. How will being touch body? How will the mortal meet the immortal? Milk mixes with water – both are of the earth. But how will being merge with body? Their basic quality is different. However near they come, they cannot touch. They may be forever near, still they cannot touch, they cannot meet. It is only our assumption, our concept – the horizon exists only as our idea.
>If you allow Ashtavakra’s statements to penetrate your heart like arrows, they will awaken and remind you. They will arouse that long forgotten memory. For a moment the sky will open, the clouds will break, and your life will be filled with sunlight.
—Osho Rajneesh, Enlightenment: The Only Revolution, p.26

>https://www.oshorajneesh.com/download/osho-books/Indian_Mystics/enlightenment_the_only_revolution.pdf
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>>39142471
the story will be the same so i'll leave those for you to look up if you want to.
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>>39142482
stars are visible next to the sun
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>>39138794
You don't need "NASA" to explain something that's been known for thousands of years and proven true by the ancient greeks.
People are just too dumb and lazy to replicate their experiments, along with countless others that followed.
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>>39141062
> Sabdor-Worf Hypothesis
It’s Sapir-Whorf and there’s no evidence it’s real
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>>39142500
moon
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>>39138794
The whole "why would they lie" thing is so overdone. It's been answered a million times.

At least come up with some actual arguments and not just repeat things someone said 10 years ago.
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>>39138794

Evil.
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>>39141654
>You'd have to sail across the arctic "pole" to prove that with sailing.
There are Videos of Russian Ice breakers sailing to the North Pole - Several. In English too.
Watch one.>>39141654
>Of course the arctic and "antarctic" are off limits.
Well, it is very cold- so it is dangerous, but you can get to the north for sure, russians sell tickets every summer.
South is more remote, more >>39141654
>WHO TF HAS TIME AND MONEY TO "JUST GO SAILING".
expensive.
If you really wanted to - you could find a used sail boat for a few thousand dollars & set it up for a round-the-world trip. Many have sailed it alone, I suggest bringing a friend or 2.
Work, Save up. Buy a sea Chart.
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>>39141751
>where are the stars?
>>39141773
>The camera is focused such that the earth takes up the entire FOV.

Stars blocked out.
Unlike the next one
>>39141816
and
>>39141904
>crescent moon long exposure.jpg

Find a Submariner who has been to north pole.
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>>39140659
>massive petri dish
maybe we are just tiny anon, it actually makes sense lole
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>>39138794
Flat Earth is a psyop designed to make all conspiracy theorists look bad.
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>>39145086
This.

Also, go ahead and look up calculations for any kind of artillery shell. Without taking into account earths curvature as well as coriolis effects, artillery shells would miss their targets.
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>>39145086
>Flat Earth is a Psy-Op designed to make all conspiracy theorists look bad.

Exactly!
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The earth is runged, end of story
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>>39141290
damn, kim jong un on the chan???
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>>39140739
>go to salt flats
>it's remarkably flat
woah
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>>39145107
Artillery shells are not real. Calculations are not real. The corona virus effect is not real.
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>>39141571
Literally unironically yes. I would rather outright live as a slave (we already do so it's a moot point) than spend one more minute being surrounded by faggots and niggers.
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>>39146053
But the people you want to enslave are the people.puahing the trannies on you.
You think this stops once they take power?
This is why slaves shouldn't try to think.
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>>39141816

what is that red, is that rain radar or something
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>>39146801
"sprite"
"elve"
Just dumb names for the observable artifacts of directed energy weapons penetrating the atmosphere
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>>39140415
You're as dumb as a pile of shit.
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>>39140659
Except it's actually like this

God#1
>makes a gigantic mess
>oh god it's everywhere
>cosmic dust and radiation
>balls of fire
>barely manage to make a cosmic mistake of things going just barely right
>a ton of mutant creatures develop over millions of years
>left with hairless apes that destroy the one world they have as well as each other

God#2
>create finite verse with the intention of creating life
>do just that
>create the celestial heavens above
>make a being in your image to rule the mortal realm
>man has the ability of great good or great evil
>allow him to choose

The first god in your example is basically the petri dish, it's a fucking mess and just one cosmic mistake after another until life accidentally forms and out of the infinitesimal amount of planets, it seems one one actually has a success rate? That's fucking abyssmal.
Meanwhile the painting and refining is clearly the guy who made the one world, the heavens above and focuses on it.
Space is pretty dumb when you really think about it, everything is made of space dust, some of it is just burning balls of radiation and sometimes it all just collapses and becomes a blackhole because it's so unstable.

You have your moron and architect backwards.



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