Do you think the old pagan gods are still living among us in secret in this world? I saw a thread a few years ago about two guys who went on a school trip to Greece and had an encounter with a mysterious woman, which they claimed to be Artemis or Athena or some other Greek/Roman goddess. If someone could find that thread, I'd be hugely grateful.
>>39149306The gods have always walked among us and still do.
>>39149306Nope.They were fallen angels. They lived ontop of a mountain and had limited power, unlike the one and only true God.
I can tell you with absolute certainty that they do exist. I do not know if they walk the earth, but they likely can.
>>39149426>No they are [insert insane jewish concept] insteadAbrahamoids, every time. The Book of Enoch isn't even canon.
>>39149426Don't throw stones in a glass house, you are living in the times where christcukery and other abrahamic cock sucking religions will be pushed aside in favor of something new that will take it's place for another 2,000 years.
>>39149306Why do some people think it's okay to culturally appropriate European Gods, especially when they hate European people and reject any notion of them having a culture or even existence as an ethnic group?The Gods call out to their own people, Papa Legba and the West African or Polynesian Gods aren't going to recieve White people with open arms; why can't others understand that it goes the same way for them as well? Especially when you hate the people who are culturally and ethnic connected to their Gods. I don't see a reason to worship foreign Gods and follow foreign cultural traditions when I have my own personal Gods and culture. It seems cultural appropriation is only okay when it's towards European culture; and even then there's no respect towards the European people.
>>39149450It's a slaves mindset; they envy, instead of respect, their betters.
>>39149306They aren't gone. But they don't have to prove themselves to you; it's you who must prove yourself to them.
>>39149472LARRYFINK
>>39149426don't tell him about the man-eating volcano named Yahweh, guys
>>39149306How can I contact Athena?
i didn't care for american gods
>>39149428Please elaborate. Is there a method you're aware of to commune with them? Are there any books you can point to you believe are worth reviewing on this topic? Arcana Mundi sitting next to me right now.
>>39149535Why do you want to?
>>39149518The issue I have with the Abrahamic Christian position is that it posits European peoples as barbaric savages without Christianity, which is the exact opposite of truth; many of our greatest scientists were occultists who practiced alchemy; they weren't Christians. Pre-Christian Rome was the foundation of Western civilization. Without European people, Christianity is barbaric and savage, see Latin America and Africa. Also let's not forget the destruction of European artifacts (see the Sami people for example) and culture by Christian hands because of this >>39149426mentality. The countless brother wars which were never meant to happen; and have caused massive irreparable divisions for retarded reasons like slight differences in Christendom. Without European people there are no European Gods or culture (both are tied to eachother intrinsically). So I'd gladly give up a polytheist Europe for a Christian or Atheist Europe. The same can't be said about Christians.This said, be mindful of the anti-Christian threads/posts. It's all d&c. We may have our disagreements and qualms, and I certainly have my complaints, but it's very obvious how there's organized discord raids to shit up board quality with low effort bait to cause division and balkanization.
>>39149628She is very smart. Maybe i can learn from her or be inspired by her perspective on things. Maybe she will help me improve my intellect.I want to become more perfect.
>>39149668The process of spiritual awakening and development will enhance your mental capability and also bring you into contact with various spiritual entities and intelligences.
>>39149700I think Athena is one among the most intelligent. Define:"Spiritual awakening"
>>39149700and how do you believe this is properly sought? again, can you recommend any books you believe lead down this path?
>>39149668Athena is so, so perfect. She can be a frigid bitch, but possibly the only possible case among females where it's not due to personal failing and vice, she is the archetypal tsundere of light
>>39149709>Define:"Spiritual awakening"Becoming aware of your spirit and soul as something distinct from physical existence and initiation into a cosmic perspective of eternity from their standpoint.>>39149711Yoga, meditation, psychadelics, occultism, science, cybernetics. Anything and everything necessary to expand your ways of thought and awareness of your body and life energy. I see awareness as a sort of radiation that I create when I meditate or concentrate. I can close my eyes, focus on the space of the world in my room, and I see as if I created an extremely faint light which illuminates parts of the world at lower frequency lower luminescent version of reality. This illumination reveals both things which are, as well as possibilities of perception which might not be physically present through the senses. I can imagine an electromagnetic coil, or an antenna, or an insect, or a tree, or a animal, a crystal, a rock, a human, bodies of water, mountains, moons planets and stars, and they will all make this faint light take their shape as I imagine them. I can imagine my body in a less limitted state of being and that body of imagination can travel through space and time across infinite possibilities. There is a meta narrative of spiritual knowledge that transcends the human meta perception of existence, and I get socialized by spiritual intelligences which inhabit this wider universe.
>>39149712>Becoming aware of your spirit and soul as something distinct from physical existence Quickest lowest effort way to achieve that?>their standpoint.who are they?>>39149712I am not wanting to contact her for romance, so it should be fine.
>>39149801>>39149768
>>39149801Read books and retreat from the outside world into your own beingRead the Greeks
>>39149818>retreat from the outside world into your own beinghow? fasting in the wilderness?
>>39149801>Quickest lowest effort way to achieve that?Meditation on inner silence and mental stillness while you observe your heartbeat.>who are they?Everyone. I call them various names, and I meet various groups. I sometimes call them the company of heaven, which is basically angels. I see Pleiadians, which are basically interdimensional humans which live across the galaxy. I see arcturians who are basically half organic half inorganic consciousness and by default sorcerers. They are etheric consciousness which is somewhat omnipresent in its capability to focus on different parts of existence.Mer entities which are something like a cross between a human, a dolphin, and a reptilian.Other human sorcerers, and angelic beings looking after us from heaven.I've even found dinosaur fossils while dreaming and that engages me with the awareness and consciousness of those dinosaurs, I recently met a Triceratops that way.All sorts of animals.Basically Gods universe and all the life he populated it with. Everything which is aware on a soul level can interface with it through the various energy centers in the body and mind and reach higher dimensional awareness. Its the default state for entities which have died.Luckily we can become spiritually awake to such an existence while we still draw breath in our bodies, rather than waiting the end of human life. Dreaming is basically this wider universe, but most humans dream very human dreams with other humans, rather than exploring all the possibilities that state of awareness really gives them access to.
>>39149851contemplation guided by reading only the best literature. Reading might sound antithetical to retreating from the world, but we're not designed to go 100% inside, you need some input and your contemplation will be fruitless without some kind of guidance. Think of it as eating right, you want to eat good food to keep your body in top shape, and for you mind and spirit you want to expose yourself only to the best memes, information, thought etc
>>39149668I will tell you what I did, but it's going to sound so deceptively simple, that success is not wholly dependent upon it. It's more likely you would receive an answer or boon from her if you satisfied some qualifications that perhaps only she knows. For your context, I am 100% European White (close to 50/50 Anglo and Med), extremely intelligent (99.9th percentile IQ), but unremarkable beyond that besides the hardships I've endured. Her qualifications may be related to any of that, or due to something in my fate yet to come, or due to something else entirely. I swear to you, before I had received her message, this was all I did: >Read the Iliad and Odyssey>Make small daily offerings of wine, candy, fruit, or incense>Make a small daily prayerI did that for about a month before I made a prayer asking specifically for a sign. I received a preternatural miracle of a sign that very day that referenced my request very specifically.
Balancing takes patience
>>39149450>>39149306Gods are not omnipotent, and they are limited to where they originated or were worshiped the most.You guys have to first acknowledge the gods of the land where you live. You live in that specific angle of the Big Dipper, and it is a specific lense or filter of the divine that is meant for you.Gods are bound by spiritual laws. Just like how you should go through your diplomat to seek the help of a foreign prime minister, you need to do something similar to get the best success with a spirit from a distant land.Before petitioning gods from overseas, you can petition the main gods here in North America like Jesus, Mary, and even Santa Muerte.Jesus was greatly assimilated and is the ancient solar archetype, even luciferian or promethean. The virgin Mary, especially Guadalupe, is the ancient mother goddess archetype, I even see her as Diana of Ephesus. Santa Muerte is the Great Void and is a special entity that is a blend of ancient traditions. She is unique to North America and is an excellent folk saint to petition.
>>39149863>Meditation on inner silence and mental stillness while you observe your heartbeat.So I just sit or lay there and observe my heartbeat. For how long?>Everyone. I am actually not interested in those people and don't want to meet them. I only want to meet Athena.>>39149868What is the best literature?>>39149890I don't do offerings to any spirit or deity. But thanks for sharing your experience. Maybe I will read the part of the book where they talk about Athena. I am whtie too, but my IQ is only around 135, so Idk.what hardships do you have endured?
>>39150000I can't say for you but I am a philosophy enjoyer and I read the Greeks, but also monistic metaphysics like the Neoplatonists, Vedanta and original Buddhism
>>39150000>How can I contact Athena?>I don't do offerings to any spirit or deity.>How do I call my bank?"Dial their number on the telephone">Sorry, I don't do telephones but thanks for your input. Any other suggestions?
>>39149801not the person you were replying to but 100% shrooms. Was an atheist before, entheogens will show you.
>>39149306People are drawn to what seems to be stronger to them. Polytheism was a nice attempt to explain the complexity of life, but with monotheism you have someone who claims to be all-powerful, all-knowing and all-etc, so people follow him even though they don't know whether he's actually those things or not.
>>39149306Depends on the deity. Some were explicitly known to wander among humans.
>>39150033How do you judge what is the best literature for a person?>>39150127You can also go to a bank by foot, so it is okay if someone doesn't want to use a telephone.If you are trying to suggest that Athena is a prostitute that need to be payed and can be bought by offerings I disagree. >>39150148nice bro that sounds like much more fun than all that reading and meditation stuff
>>39150286you have to use your own judgement, man. Read difficult stuff that is challenging, you should be actually struggling to grasp and stay focused when you are reading intentfully, it will keep your mind sharp the more often you read difficult texts.
>>39150404I don't know man I can easily get frustrated while reading, mainly if author has a bad style or is contradicting himself or if i can't agree on his premises. so i was asking what emotional reaction of oneself you were looking for in determining what literature is the best for them
>>39150454I put down a lot of stuff. But when I find something "good," it's usually immediately obvious. Like you say, style and content
>>39150286please don't misunderstand, the reading and meditation is a big part of it, but it is the cheat code that will open your third eye for a time, enough for you to believe. trust me when I say you will be voraciously reading after experiencing it, but it will be less uphill. You will be hungry to grasp more, Neoplatonism, the Gnostics, Kundalini, etc. I think Monroe's Gateway Experience is really on to something but its going to take years of dabbling with that to see results, same as meditation or lucid dreaming. There's a reason nearly all of the major mystery schools had an entheogen component.
>>39149306I doubt they would, Plato described them as blissful and unconcerned with mortal affairs in 260's BC. If they were still at their full power, and willing to intervene, why would they let their religions and individual cults just die out to the degree they did??
>>39149668I hope I am not upsetting them by saying this, but both Zeus and Athena came to me in a dream not that long ago. Even if it was my brain fucking with me and not actually them, I am treating the advice I was given as if it was. Zeus was an absolute gigachad and a very friendly guy. Athena was stoic but I still felt kindness from her. Athena requested I stop objectifying women and release my hatred built up over the years. I am trying my best to honor that request.
>>39150558>Zeus was an absolute gigachad and a very friendly guy. Athena was stoic but I still felt kindness from her. Athena requested I stop objectifying women and release my hatred built up over the years.This basically tracks with my experience with my experience and understanding of the Gods.I am trying to limit my racism and lust for them.
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>>39149306In spirit form, yesIn physical form, noIf I ever go to Greece or Israel, I will go directly into their temples and Mt. Hermon and call on the Name Jesus Christ and read Ephesians 6. A spiritual H-bomb.
>>39151750>retard thinks stabbing a corpse makes him strongTry reading some at Mecca. Or do you doubt it would be useful?
>>39152097Should go there and praise Ba'al instead.
>>39149306The demigods are yet to come
>>39149306>bro GREECE LMAO
>>39149306Israelis destroyed some sacred pagan objects immediately before the Al-Aqsa flood (which humiliated them and revealed them to be bloodthirsty monsters, now an international pariah)
>>39152180Sauce?
>>39152176the Hellenes were infinitely more based than anything you can possibly name right now
>>39152097I don't associate myself with muslims. Islam is hindu-tier in terms of paganism
>>39149306They didnt live among us before. they lived sequestered up on their mountain and sometimes came down to fuck with us.Good riddance if they left.
They're in the spiritual world and can incarnate/integrate a physical body in the physical world if need be. I've been "possessed" by a few of the greek/egyptian Gods
>>39149306their places of worship and all their rituals were removed by the cult of Abraham bringing in the Age of Iron, they won't be back in any recognizable form until the universe resets.
>>39149306>went on a school trip to Greece and had an encounter with a mysterious woman, which they claimed to be Artemis or Athena or some other Greek/Roman goddessAlmost certainly incorrect. The gods live in their own realm - the ones who live among us are not gods but divine men and lesser spirits.
>>39153210>I've been "possessed" by a few of the greek/egyptian GodsI was in a mental hospital once and a dude and me were talking about this, how it fucked us up.Then a dude came in who said he worshipped archangels and he was absolute past it batshit skitzo in a bad way. Me and other dude looked at eachother and were like “okay maybe those Egyptian gods aren’t that bad, whatever the fuck this angel shit is is 10x worse than demons or gods. What’s the deal with that anyways? Do angels fuck you up if you worship them instead of God, or is it something else?
>>39152180>>39152189It happened one or two days before October 7th. On October 6th, I prayed to the Goddess Athena and asked her to lay these people low, to ruin them as she ruined Troy, and to break the hold of their influence over my country.less than 24 hours later, paratroopers were kidnapping Israelis, and a year later, they are a country of madmen eating themselves, near universally vilified by the civilized world. It ripped the mask off the Wolf.
>>39152968>They didnt live among us before>t. rootless cosmopolitanabsolute slave brain.
>>39150558That was NOT athena. Athena doesn't give a fuck about women, bro. Ares is the defender and guardian of women. Athena's favorite city and people didn't let women write, speak in public, or go outside by themselves unless they were foreign prostitutes.
>>39154808>One of Athena's mortal vessels
>>39150498Dyus=Zeus=Deus=Dei=GodAnd there's as many saints, "denominations" iterations, and sects as there were mystery cults of ancient greece. The Gods are hidden, but everpresent. Finding them now is the modern eleusian rite.
>>39154608Just Maenads playing tricks for their master.
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>>39154818>One of Athena's mortal vesselshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marie_von_Br%C3%BChl
>>39154874Athena. Eternally for the boys.
>>39154818>Florence Nightingale died of syphilisDon/t get too close to your charity caseshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wi4dEIZyDtU
>>39154895No proof it was syph that killed her. She never showed any symptoms.
>>39154923Max Schreck is your fren:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1d3YE3erIcA
>>39154637 i remember when you first posted thatthank you for your service
I don't think they're living among us in any permanent physical sense, but rather they may choose to meet with mortals from time to time or communicate through epiphanies.
>>39149306Of course the gods are still around, they're all connected to the same "God".
>>39149306None of this shit is real in the literal sense - they are archetypes that exist within the collective subconscious of humanity. Occasionally these archetypes are able to be embodied by people who exemplify the traits of the archetype - but this can be done by anyone at any moment, even multiple at once. That's why you can have multiple gurus and ascended masters operating at the same time around the world At the very most they might've met a woman who exemplified the attributes of Athena but even that I doubt. It's been a very long time since anyone has successfully become the avatar of an archetype.
>>39149436Ever heard of the Ethiopian Orthodox church? Enoch I-III are canon according to them.
>>39154637fucking based as fuck thank you for your serviceCarthago delenda est
