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give me one (1) reason to not be pro-demiurge
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GREEN AND BLUE MATTER!!!!
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>>39150720
there is no demiurge
mortal life is just a game for yahweh and lucifer to reap souls for their causes
there is no other truth than this
you cannot escape
there is no other esoteric hidden truth or magics
all things will be finalized in a shitty this versus that election and the end of the earths mortal timeframe
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>>39150720
That’s like asking if you want to be pro or anti mall cop. The demiurge is just a mall cop in the grand scheme of things. We wouldn’t need mall cops if creation wasn’t fundamentally retarded, which it is. Just talk to an archangel or Satan to know what I’m saying. It’s all fucking retarded and we have a mall cop to keep us in line.
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>>39150720
Love it all anon
It’s all apart of your characters mission
The highs aren’t as high without the lows
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>>39150720
Eventually you will be reincarnated into a world of magic and fantasy with sexy girls.
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>>39150768
i'm just saying mainstream gnosticism being anti-demiurge is blatantly luciferian
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Taxes
Politicians
Journalists
Jews
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>>39150871
Sign me up for [one] omnipotent futanari giantess girlfriend who lets me live in her dirty socks
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>>39150720
>world good because tree green and water blue
Just wait until your 1st born gets cancer and dies a horrific, painful death as you're unable to do anything but watch him expire in front of your own eyes. Let's see how perfect and amazing this world is then.
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>>39151309
Dont bother with retards like OP.
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>>39150720
Because He's ignorant of the greater Realities that doesn't perceive, and that He can't get to.
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can someone recc me basic books to get started on gnosticism? It's mentioned all the time here on this board and I have no idea what it is. Just 1-2 books will do honestly
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>>39150975
To you anrything other than Christcuckery is blatantly luciferian.
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>>39150720
How I learned to stop worrying and love the demiurge
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>>39150720
Whatever wonderful things you find in life, they pale in comparison with what's out there.
All the wonders as well as all the suffering you experience now will be ripped out of you to nourish others while you will be thrown back to experience things just so it can be taken from you again.
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>>39151309
>cancer
>a jewish made problem caused by sneed oils and heavy metals, parasites
>implying we can't already fix it for good(just kill the "people", who on purpose produce and promote cancer causing things.
literally just kill the kikes, problem solved
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>>39150720
This earth is hell. Our souls are just tulpas that will completely cease to be upon awakening. And then we'll probably be remanifested by the evil entities which I think are the toymakers or demons or angels or whatever. The ride never ends.
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>>39150720
Because it is ruled by the devil who took great pleasure in hurting you and reducing you to a cloying animal all this time.
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>>39151599
no its blatantly luciferian when you literally believe the light bringer is supposed to get you closer to source by usurping the demiurge.
the main sect of gnosticism is literally a combination of jewish kabbalah, hinduism, sufism, manichaeism, buddhist meditation practices, believing lucifer gave us knowledge to get around YHWH to get closer to the monad, and that christ came directly from the monad instead of the demiurge.
its literally the ancient canaanite religion with extra steps.
i get that yahweh is one of the canaanite gods, but gods were a very regional concept in their society.
the torah, outside of the creation myth, is largely a polticial (arguably historical) oral tradition that was applied to a much older math problem.
all im saying is if youre going to borrow aspects of that oral tradition, dont be heretical to it.
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>>39151593
read plotinus
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>>39152236
NTA but the mall cop anon. Some other anon responded to you earlier. What I meant was all creation was retarded. Santan, Lucifer, Demiurge, Michael. Whatever you want to meet or talk to is smarter and vaster than the average human but comes across as a force to control humanity. Humans need to be kept in line or else 80% of our species would sell each other out of a better place and inheritance. I’m not advocating for Luciferian worship, I only advocate learning about the necessity for cosmic laws and why we shouldn’t all just jailbreak our minds to get out of here all at once. There’s too many retards on earth and they aren’t worthy for better Gardens just yet. Most of us have a lot to learn and need to get better. Sadly there’s a time limit that’s close to ending and we will be recrystalized for our lack of discipline. Those who aren’t good but still are able to jailbreak and ascend are treated like dirty criminals by the higher celestial beings of this universe.
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>>39150720
You guys are constantly crying like this
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>>39150720
beautiful /= good
You guys learned nothing from women?
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>>39150720
He could've made a way for you to leave painlessly or patched the simulation in a way that mistakes have less repercussions and postive decisions do more for you also buffed superpowers a little so life feels less of a dragdown you know?
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>>39153900
You know not even once in my life i looked at nature and said "beautiful" but i was fascinated
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>>39151448
This book is the ultimate redpill. It actually gave me faith that one day I will free my Spirit and kick the demiurge’s ass.
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>>39150720
How's your shitty life OP?
Did it get better by sucking the demiurge's cock?
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>>39150720
You already are, you get to cry like a little bitch daily about clown world, this is your reward :3
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Food that tastes good makes you fat. Food that tastes bad is good for you.
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>be Op
>Retarded /pol/ack
>Accept Demiurge
>Your country goes to shit
>The west falls
>You become a second or third class citizen
>Trannies get more rights than you
>Your hobbies go to hell
>But the vatican gets a new mascot

X'D @ OP
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We literally evolved to think lush green land close to clear water is beatiful. This is to get us to live in these places but also I think more importantly the "nature is beautiful" feeling is something that evolution put into people because thinking that makes you a lot less likely to kill yourself.
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>>39153935
Nature's beauty is not in its aesthetics, but in its resonance to natural life. It's meant to be brutal just as much as it's meant to be peaceful. It's why cities have become degenerate versions of nature.
Fascination is the right attitude, otherwise you'll end up like those retards who've never been out in the wilderness yet think nature cares about their survival
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>>39150720
> give me one (1) reason to not be pro-demiurge
Everything negative you’ve ever experienced (and your eventual death) /thread
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>>39150720
The Demiurge isn't good or evil; it's simply the power of creation given form, without the divinity that allows it to understand itself. It creates but doesn't understand why what it made is good or bad, it just accepts whatever it's creations believe to be true on an individual level.
Should you be pro-Demiurge? No, but you shouldn't be anti- either. Doing so will make you subject to its will, as whatever you believe it to be is what it will present itself as, falling in line with the ego of your interpreted form. Be indifferent instead, treat it as a source of physical creation responding to your internal divinity.
The Demiurge is just the power of physical creation. It's all a matter of interpretation.
Freedom is your God given right. Don't give it away to entities that you're told have power over you.
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>>39154623
steak is delicious and mcdonalds tastes horrible
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The Demiurge is our friend guys, just trust me. You have complete freedom in this world to chase everything you want. Specially to free your Spirit from matter, the whole universe will help you, including the Demiurge.
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>>39150720
Well the Demiurge might be really really powerful and some people just in case you know challenge anything more powerful than them so that something...happens? Doesn't happen? Nothing ever happens.
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>>39150743
So i should side with lucifer then
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>>39152236
>this still hasn't been refuted
don't get me wrong, perennialism is still based, there just has to be a line drawn somewhere you fucking retards
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>>39152352
>Those who aren’t good but still are able to jailbreak and ascend are treated like dirty criminals by the higher celestial beings of this universe.

Are you referring to average people or the satanic pedophile elites?
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>>39150720
This is such horseshit when 99% of that man's life is work or recovering from work. Sure, we have moments of bliss. But they are but moments.
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>>39152352
That's not how it works. People are here to discover the actual supreme truth and then go straight to the maximum, ultimate state all at once. We aren't flesh and blood beings, we are the total universe all at once. We are also the Demiurge, and we are also everything else you imagine, including those so-called celestial beings. if you go too high in the hierarchy you will end up going down again. But transcending all low and all high makes it so you're out of it forever.
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>>39157866
the original sin was trying to be like god, anon
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>>39158178
No, it was eating from the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil, which is a metaphor for "falling into duality", which basically is to divide the whole divine being into an "I" and a separate "Other", which in truth both are one.
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Well, to be honest, God blessed wood (plants) and blessed the mineral (soil, earth, rocks)
So if I look at nature and see mountains and forests, I am seeing beauty.
But the moment we add flesh into the mix, we get hell.
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>>39151697
Jews are (the Demiurge's) chosen people.
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>>39150768
Requesting demiurge edits where he's a mall cop.
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>>39152203
Satan is just a dog on a leash. When you see how pathetic he really is you'll understand that he is not worthy of worship.

I'm not even bullshiting, the first few south park's with Satan hit the nail right on the head. He loses on purpose and is a total bitch.
Read Isaiah 14 and get to verse 16. That's what he REALLY looks like.
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>>39159041
lucifer was kicked from heaven for trying to be like god.
sin is an older concept than humans
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>>39160392
It's a metaphor my man, there is no Lucifer
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>>39150743
then where do those souls come from? how can lucifer & yahweh be both gods of creation and destruction?
explain your point and do not make a fool of yourself, your demoralization weakens each day :)
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>>39151593
Gospel of Thomas
Essene Gospel of Peace
aryanism.net
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>>39151697
source?
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>>39156976
uhm, Marcion of Sinope where?
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>>39153900
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>>39150743
>here is no other esoteric hidden truth or magics
the demiurge isnt sending his best
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>>39150768
>creation
the demiurge/yhwh is the architect, the judge, the creator, the law giver etc. the true god working through christ is love, the god beyond the veil. the demiurge is the mall and the mall cop, completely schizophrenic retard. jesus won by demonstrating that death is not the end, which makes the jews, the demiurges minions seethe to this day. one can simply log out of the matrix and be free, thats the fundamental truth and they hate it, they try to make this world all shiny and tempting so you never look within, the gift og the true god, eternal bliss, granted for free, without being a slave to the system.
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>>39153900
DEATH CULT DEATH CULT DEATH CULT!!!
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>>39161769
the jews always need to be the mediators, the middleman for all transactions, like parasites, they cant stand people just turning to god, longing for him in their hearts, there has to be a control checkpoint for all of that always, just like with catholics. luther was such neo character just saying fuck that and going his own way. the jews try to needlessly overcomplicate thgins until no one knows whats going on anymore.

another thing: the ss in hitlers germany had the skull and bones insignia on their uniforms, as a sign of their lack of fear of death because they felt its not the end, its never the end. the jew fears those who dont fear death, because as a material being he cant comprehend any 'beyond', thus he cannot control those who follow christ.
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>>39161807
jesus was offered all the kingdoms of the world and rejected it all because he already transcended the world, what good are temporary things if you have seen gods eternal light?

you become truly ungovernable since you cannot be bribed with any worldy possessions or sex for that matter, and the jew cannot offer you anything else, so rejecting his presents is the highest form of rebellion, they just dont know what to do with you if you plainly stop playing by their retarded rules. if you are only motivated by gods love, you are out of bounds, out of the jurisdiction of the demiurge thus truly free.

nofap is understandibly so popular in recent time, if you can conquer, overcome your most primal desires you prove yourself worthy of the ethereal world of god, thus the jew does his dark sex magic, tries every angle to get you to be enchanted by femininity once more, thus all the fapbait, on pol and on here, some random thread just has hentai themed images or lightly dressed females, just for the sake of distracting you, the topic at hand is often completely irrelevant.
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>>39150720
No eternal "life".



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