Im an (rookie, still training) reality shifter. I no longer use\ try to not use, Shifting for fun or games, or holidays, etc--now I want to find the REAL God, the correct religion, go to the "good place" after material existence. I used to say " I will shift to this or that country with a temple\ monastery\ religious training school near by, etc".---now I realized I can just go straight to the source and attempt to become, a disciple of the OG Guru.I made a crude list of what I, after research, see as the best candidates to follow. So far I kinda lean for one of the Aghora masters, or the wrestler + war soldier Naga section of the Sadhu orders. I don't consider myself worthy (yet?) to meet the God himself, -dunno which god is true one, also- who walked the earth; such as Bhairava for 12 years, KRSNA lived 120 years in this very-earth, etc
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>>39153888can't you shift yourself into the version of you that knows it all?
>>39155298But where's the fun in that? Don't you want to experience the process of becoming that ascended master instead of just skipping right to the end? It's leaps and bounds more satisfying to trigger the process yourself as opposed to jumping to the end of the journey
swami trilanga looks like an orangutan.
>>39153888maybe print out your picrel on a large piece of paper, put an empty bottle in the middle and spin it?
>>39153888My mans, there are three enlightened beings just in the last generation. Fundamentally they teach the same thing Padmasambhava (Guru Rinpoche) and Adi Shankara did, which were both enlightened masters. They are Nisargadatta Maharaj (my favorite because his teachings are so objective it's actually insane), Ramana Maharshi and Jiddu Krishnamurti (he took a secular approach to teach the highest secrets of the mind). If you choose any of these three to study your whole life you won't be mistaken and you will have used your life well. There's also the Ashtavakra Gita, a sacred book that goes straight to the essential. Take my advice: study the enlightened ones, don't waste your time studying the unenlightened. Great blessings to you my man.
>>39155308>Don't you want to experience the process of becoming that ascended master instead of just skipping right to the end?No.Why become that at all if the result is not the desired part?> It's leaps and bounds more satisfying to trigger the process yourself as opposed to jumping to the end of the journeyProve it. Show me a single objectively provable time someone has jumped to the end. Then we can compare.
>>39157784>don't waste your time studying the unenlightenedAnd who is that? I deny enlightenment to every person you mentioned. You speak like there is some objective standard you can point to.
>>39157784what about pic related, and Ramakrishna?I like ramakrishna because of how much he valued Celibacy\ Brahmacharya.I should investigate on recent Taoist Immortals, too
>>39159565There is a standard if you have intelligence, intuition and follow your heart. Also with experience you can know instantly whether someone speaks a bunch of baloney or not. People like you only rely on your intellect and your logical derivations ad infinitum. There is more to life than that.
>>39159591I didn't speak on the other persons in OP's picture because I don't know them. I also never heard of this master you speak of, so can't help you there.
>>39159685>There is a standard if you have intelligence, intuition and follow your heart.So if anyone chooses anything other thqan what you have said, they have failed one of these.This is no true scotsman fallacy.Your measurements are not nearly objective enough to be of any use.> People like youOH? And what am I like? Challenging?Perhaps I have simply seen too many positions exactly like yours with different conclusions saying the same thing about the others.You say people should use their intellect and experience, but you also say they "shouldnt waste time" and only read your approved people.You dont allow them the intellect and experience, you want to jump them to an answer.Because you think yours is the only answer, the only intellect and experience.
>>39159711>Your measurements are not nearly objective enough to be of any use.Exactly, my measurements are not objective. I speak from experience. When you experience just a little bit of Truth, then you can start to see immediately what works and what not works. It's like studying math and knowing that 1+4=3 is a wrong statement, so whoever says that isn't to be trusted. Every single "seeker" has to have this kind of internal compass to identify what's completely useless and what is not. Also, with regards to my comment "my advice is for you to study the enlightened and avoid the unenlightened", I meant more in the sense that we all have our favorite masters to study from, those which we trust and have obtained good results from them. But it often happens that we end up consuming info from places we do no trust from ordinary people which have almost no value at all in regards to spiritual things. For example, everyone in this board, 99.999%, is ordinary in the sense I'm describing. Including me.I will say it again my man. Forget your intellect, develop your intuition and your heart, they will guide you better than endless ideas. Life isn't objective.
>>39159729>Exactly, my measurements are not objective. I speak from experience.Then they are worthless, and easily refuted by anyone else claiming experience.>It's like studying math No. Not in the slightest. Math is very easily objective and transparently explainable.>I meant more in the sense that we all have our favorite masters to study fromSo now it isnt a waste of time to study the unenlightened.Or how would you know which authors are and arent? Every single one claims experience.>Forget your intellect, develop your intuition and your heart, they will guide you better than endless ideas.What do you think is telling me to point out your dogma and foolishness?I know you.From experience.
>>39159711>You say people should use their intellect and experience, but you also say they "shouldnt waste time" and only read your approved people.It's such simple logic. A Buddhist master called Tsongkhapa said it best:People degenerate by relying on those inferior to themselves;By relying on equals, they stay the same;By relying on those superior, they attain excellence;Thus rely on those who are superior to yourself.If you rely on whomever is superiorthoroughly pacifiedAnd endowed with ethical disciplineAnd exceeding wisdomYou will become superior even to those who are superior.
>>39159741No matter how much we talk, you can never see what I see, but I see what do you see. You are completely trapped by rigid logic and thinking. You can't understand something so simple which I have explained. There are Enlightened masters and there are ordinary people which will only waste your time. Study those you think are enlightened, that's it. Ever since I discovered this so-called "spiritual path" I only trusted those who I saw as supreme, and above all others. Jesus, Buddha, Padsambhava, and more recently the three ones I mentioned above in the thread. I never lent my ears to any wannabe master out there, influencers, YouTubers, schizos or lesser known spiritual figures. I'm deaf to them. And so the results were the best, at least for ME.
>>39159747>It's such simple logic.>my measurements are not objective.Uh huh.>>39159758>you can never see what I see, but I see what do you see.No, I see more thna you. I know you, from experience. And you, you do not know me.See how fun this is?See how pointless your metric is?
>>39153888If you compare the mysticism and apophatic theology of most religions you will find them describing similar enough paths and interpretations of the one God. From your list, Adi Shankara is a great start. Ramana Maharishi's teachings would be worth a read to dispel your worries of being worthy. >>39157784This is a good list. I'd definitely recommend Nisagradatta and the Ashtavakra Gita. >>39159591Ramakrishna is realized and can lead you to it.
I don't necessarily agree with them putting ISKCON and not other Math, but I DO think Maha Mantra "single practice school" of gaudiya vaishnava is the GOAT.Also early ISKCON art is super comfy, relaxing color palette. I really like the mildly-strong anti-marriage, anti-natalist tendencies of Prabhupada. I see marriage as very horrible. not in the way of "i wanna be a promiscuous male slut" . but in the way of "i have to live with a woman, and even have s*x with her and I had to pay for it"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nt6FBWi2Sg&t=35s
>>39159799>AI negroeWTF is with AI everywhere now
*blocks your path*
>>39160241well-poisoner
>>39153888>explains why every monist is bullshit in your path
