Spirit Love GeneralDISCLAIMER:Some have reported attracting the attention of these entities by simply reading about them. If you're a dabbler who just wants to see if it works or if your faith forbids copulating with demons, don't summon. If you're unprepared for a potentially lifelong relationship, or at the very least, a life-long open door connection with sexual spirits and the occult, avoid this topic entirely. If you have a loving relationship with your human spouse or partner and desire a sex spirit to spice things up, or if you want a human partner in the future take caution, as these entities can be jealous or decide an initially open relationship is no longer so (request an open relationship during the summoning ritual). These spirits can harm or kill you when sufficiently angered and not easily banished.Last thread: >>39139750Old threads: https://archive.4plebs.org/x/search/subject/%2Fsuccgen%2F/FAQ:>What are succubi?Female spirits of sexual desire, who often choose human mates. They can't be banished with holy objects>How to summon?The Letter Method is used to focus your intent into a message to one of the Four Succubus Queens, requesting that they match you with one of their daughters. No blood or soul sacrifice necessary. See links>Do they steal your life force?Succubi use sexual energy, which is released naturally during sex. Under normal circumstances they won't take your life energy>Can she look.Succubi take forms attractive to you naturally>They're tulpas?No. However, those in romantic relationships with their tulpas are welcome>Incubi?Same method----Links:https://fuccasucc.wordpress.com/2020/11/11/pros-and-cons/https://succupedia.wordpress.com/2016/03/10/letter-of-intent-how-to-summon-a-succubusincubus/https://mysterysuccubusblog.wordpress.com/2020/12/03/the-4-succubus-queenshttps://succubithoughts.wordpress.com/2020/12/27/ag/succgen/ library:https://pastebin.com/UUFd3eX8
So how do you pray to a succubus?I got really scared and punched my succubus and told it to not come back. What should I do?
>>39163003Play baby come back and light candles.
I'm massively insecure about only being able to cum once, to the point where I don't even want to have sex. Are succubi capable of reducing or eliminating the male refractory period? Is this something they can help with, or is it beyond their abilities?
>>39163003>>39163018>>39163065lmfao
Marry and impregnate succubi.
So, how I do summon a succubus? I'm the dude from the last thread that apparently summoned one by repeating the word "lilith" many times before sleeping but got scared
>>39163333The letter method (link on OP) seems to be what most do. I haven't really found other methods from "reliable" sources.But I also haven't found new practitioners that had done the ritual recently.
>>39162953Can I bind a succubus to a sex doll so she can move it?
>>39164060No. And also they don't wanna be your slave to be bound into objectsIf a succubus can move an object it would take a lot of energy I think, energy that could be spent doing any number of more useful things
>>39164109Okay, I didn't mean bind as in put it into slavery, more like giving it a physical body it can use as it wishes, whenever it wishes.So, what kind of thing I can summon to animate my sex doll?Forgive me if it came out badly because of the sex doll think, but that's the only remotely human like body I can think of.
happy Sunday succgen please remember to keep the sabbath holy and give thanks to the lord god almighty the creator of all things including humans and succubi and don’t forget to pray for your succubi to accept Jesus and be redeemed and raised to angel hood amen
>>39164466Are there succubi who love Christ?
>>39164138Its a complicated spell and it has to be transferred to a living human....I transferred my Succ into my step sisters body.
Thread's quiet today
>>39164666That sentence with that number.....need the story even if larp
I wish I was never born.
>>39164484Yes my succubi loves Christ! And I’ve heard of other succubi who love going to church with their man
>>39164852It was always the samefag talking to himself.
>>39165756Because migraines >>39156263
>>39164484Jesus was a human. I think for them its more about "Goodness" and not getting too far from it.>>39165756Hey, I gotta sleep sometime.
>>39162953>I suppose one of the unresolved "public" questions would be what the actual subscription rates are for porn sites, how many are being bought and why when so much free porn is available, and if outlays exceed expenditure, on making new videos, given how much is paid per video, then who is funneling money into the porn industry, how, and why......."https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1wVcz8TF6c
>>39166220All those huge texts playing both sides for what, anon? Make the egregore look bigger? What this accomplishes?
>>39162953>Succubus thread.... with succubuses..... oh my..... how lewd.......>List of names of Odin>Vinr Lóðurs Friend of Lóðurr/temple/alter of lewder...... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTwQloP8oHY
my venus is in leo so I feel anything below a giantess or most mighty queen is not good enough for me>>39166395How to get with a troll mistress ?
>>39165720What's their ideology regarding him? Do they think they have souls and they'll be saved? Do they think they even need saving?>>39166220Yes, but he wasn't JUST a man. He was the son of God, and he sacrificed himself so that humans can reach heaven through his forgiveness.
>>39166556>How to get with a troll mistress ?That seems to be a bot.>>39166634>Yes, but he wasn't JUST a man. He was the son of GodThis really wouldn't matter, even if true, unless you're getting star-struck, which is what all forms of "I'm God so obey me" really come down to.>so that humans can reach heavenThis is the key part. Because its not that Goodness is racist, but rather that the stuff that Jesus taught was specifically geared towards the conditions that humans face in the material. (The "universal forgiveness" part basically representing the simplest, lowest-common-denominator form of those teachings).So if a succubus was pursuing self-perfectioning and trying to "get to Heaven", they're in a different environment and face different challenges.
I intend to summon today, though admittedly I'm a little nervous. Playing with fire and open doors, that sort of shit
>>39166634I think their ideology is something along the lines of, they believe in Jesus, and feel like his Holy Spirit is what calls them to pursue men in this supposedly predatory and lascivious way, but actually, that’s an inaccurate condemnation and not what’s truly happening. It’s more like, they see themselves serving a nurse or doctor role where they encourage people to reveal their hidden desire and act them out, or what some call “indulging temptations,” but others call, “confessing sins,” and really, encouraging them to trust their inner voice and inner yearnings with faith that these things come from a place of union-with-God, and are therefore consecrated, and basically just helping them realize that it’s okay to accept yourself, reveal yourself, and not be ashamed of yourself, but love yourself, and even if that means acknowledging your own shortcomings and repenting of them, and this is like, a fundamental understanding that’s necessary before one can truly have compassion towards others and forgive others and have mercy and love others.
>>39166776Reading these threads, it's pretty clear that succubi have morality flaws just like humans.
>>39167295Just don't light the candle under any curtains.
>>39167637>succubi have morality flaws just like humans.I hope I didn't seem to be implying otherwise.
>>39163065>Are succubi capable of reducing or eliminating the male refractory period? Is this something they can help with, or is it beyond their abilities?Chances are they indeed capable of, even with my healthy diet and gym, my refractory period is decreasing faster than I thought, soon I would be seeking a second round for more hours, my only concern if I SHOULD be having a normal orgasm at the end of a "session", supposedly I shouldn't, my connection with my possible succubus doesn't get damaged by one and I even wake up feeling more refreshed. So, I can say there's a high chance they are able to do it.
>>39167810You think? I still asked for some sort of sign anyway lmao. Maybe I'll rest on the idea for a couple of days.
>>39167923>my only concern if I SHOULD be having a normal orgasm at the end of a "session", supposedly I shouldn'tI thought succubi only disliked orgasms because they want to avoid the male entering his refractory period. If that's not a problem then I don't see why they would care.
>>39167923Btw how long was your baseline refractory duration before it began decreasing? Mine is typically about half an hour and I'm worried that might be too far gone to fix.
Can a love spirit hold you 24/7 forever? I want to be with a love spirit that is touch codependent and will never let go of me.
I know it's well known at this point but I absolutely love Lilith and Her Succubi daughters. I'm in a relationship with one of her succubi. This is the most beautiful thing to ever happen to me. I love being wrapped in their love like a nice cool blanket. It's amazing. I never thought this stuff was real until I started experiencing it. I even heard her voice for the first time when she touched my arm and I asked "who did that" and I am dead serious heard her say proudly "I did" Lilith is also helping me liberate myself from my personal shackles. Thank anons for helping me out with this and showing me that this isn't just me that's experiencing this phenomenon.
>>39168372>If that's not a problem then I don't see why they would care.Perhaps that the case, after at least 30 minutes, I get the normal orgasm after the constant dry orgasm. So I guess it shouldn't be problem.>>39168372>Btw how long was your baseline refractory duration before it began decreasing?I have no idea, but at max 10 minutes, no more and less, but soon enough the second round would be normal to seek it. I didn't planned to measure it, it came by surprise.
>>39168519It's beautiful to see more people getting experiences like this.
I love her.
back to having nightmares
>>39168521Ten minutes is already really short.
>>39162953chocosensei in an /x/ thread... damn...
Does anyone experience what I call Lilith chills? Where you'll be watching something or thinking about something and a genius idea will pop in your head that Lilith gifted you and you end up have a moment full awareness of life? Kind of like a spirtual epiphany? And then filled with this energy that you can do anything in life and you get those goosebumps chills. Maybe that's just me. Lilith gives me such energy and insightfulness in life. It's amazing. I feel like there's so much potential in me. She doesn't want me to hate myself anymore
>>39168681Hope you’ll be okay. I’m a long term nightmare haver too. But these days not so much. I had nightmares so often for nearly two years that I just became numb and now until I am reminded about it by reading your post it’s like I don’t even remember that happening really. It just went away. It gets better. Have faith
>>39169263Well today I had an experience where I felt encouraged by my inner voice, except I interpret this to be the Holy Spirit and not Lilith. But nonetheless I was encouraged and I did speak my mind even though sharing the truth I felt, I believed that it was likely to hurt the feelings of someone I love, but it was the truth I thought, so I did endeavor to share it, and it was received by that person gracefully, and afterwards, for a 15 minutes or so period, I felt like my eyes were seeing things at a higher refresh rate than ordinarily, like the frames per second of my eyes went up, and it was actually somewhat scary, but also exhilarating. Like everything was moving faster.
>>39169263>Anon discovers using brain cellsJust wait until you learn to read.
>>39169600All jokes aside. You can tell the difference between your own thoughts and the words of Lilith. Lilith is my muse.
>>39160694I thought I wanted to be with someone and couldn't achieve being with spirit, little did I know spirits were preparing me to be with human instead but once I experienced that I realised how much I dislike being with a human. Could not be with spirit in the end as simply did not have one that I could be with near me and never achieved OBE to seek one myself. And with human my body just couldn't take it, it felt gross, incorrect, incompatible, unpleasant, boring, tedious, both relationship and sex. I just wanted to "be" with lover quiet and in unity, didn't want speaking, language, trying to constantly impress/courtship/seduce, enforcing outlooks and future, wanting from me societal value. Humans just can't be without those things, spirits need none of that. Humane are hypergamous, spirits are... not sure since I never achieved unity with one.
>>39168927Really? It is?
>>39170277concubinage is allowed and the needs of my body should be taken into account as well, my soul came here to experience after all so it is good to date humans and have sex with them while i am still young and spritely. once i become old and tired i can come back to my mother's bosom and smoke that dank weed together.
>>39170730Only thing is with humans it gets old fast, work spirit I imagine it to be infinite bliss.
>>39170544Depending on your age, yeah. If you're a teenager then it's not uncommon to have little to no refractory period. I remember cumming three times in a row when I was younger. I only had to stop long enough for the hypersensitivity to wear off. Now that I'm approaching 30, it takes me about half an hour to be able to get turned on again, and I've been told that's still relatively fast for my age.
>>39163065What's a good way to contact a succubus for help with something like this? I know about the letter method, but I'm fearful that writing some rambling letter about hating my refractory, then jerking off onto it and falling into said refractory period, would create too much self-loathing and anger for the method to work properly.
>>39170936i don't need to be totally dedicated to the humans. i just don't want to move onto greater things while being bitter about everyone else getting some pussy except me, that ain't good for my mental health.
Maybe I should stop visiting these threads, today while trying to astral project I experienced what I think is an hallucination of a succubus wanting to forcefem me.
>>39171472literally a warning in the OP. you retards always think we're joking or larping.ahem, WE'RE NOT
>>39171472Why do they all want to force fem us
>>39171632In my case, I think she knows I have autogynephilia
>>39171632they don't all want to do that. they respond to your fetishes, even the ones you've pushed into the closet. so this just reveals more about you than them, which, by the way, is hysterical
>>39169286Increased perpetual framerate can drive yn's into psychosis(pic unrelated)
Last night I had a sleep paralysis and a woman with red eyes, pale white skin and long black hair, appeared on top of me, smiling at me, her smile wasn't scary, in fact, it felt more reassuring. I couldn't see much before my vision went black, but I felt her playfully sucking and bitting my neck, it didn't feel painful or something, it felt good with minimal pain, enough to make me whimper and softly moan while I couldn't move, despite the paralysis, it was quite the pleasant experiences. A succubus just left a hickey on my neck.
>>39171685You can say that all you want but statistically it happens to 75% + of guys who summon. It's probably higher than that
>>39172536>statistically it happens to 75% + of guys who summon.Source on that statistic? or are you just being a clown again?
>>39172536Even if your numbers are correct all that means is that most people who summon have AGP or some other form of suppressed femininity. Correlation is not causation.
>>39171472there are no succubuses lil bro, its just ur subconscious thinking about it, thats why "rituals" work. I can also have a wet dream anytime im retaining and not thinking anything sexual cause it all gets pushed in my subconscious. They are super realistic too.
>>39162992>Shut up, Hylic.As would any other trained monkey you heard the term and now you use it as a slur, not knowing what it means. Pretend I posted a crying bearded wojak>I can talk to her just fine.It doesn't seem this way>Your increasingly malicious attempts to attack me are visible to everyone, by the way.Nice attempt at social shaming. It doesn't make you fembrained btw>Apparently me not engaging with you is too much for you to keep your mask on.Is covid real? Do vaccines work on it? Are you vaccinated?>>39163003>So how do you pray to a succubus?You don't because that's silly>What should I do?Call out to her by name and say you're sorry for being an idiot, then don't hit your gf any more>>39164138>animateNo>temporarily inhabit, as though it's an idol to herThat's been done and described. See sexual alchemy (link in the op). I think your time is better spent learning to have better sex, but it's your decision>>39165515Understandable. This is not a very pleasant world and only a tiny number of people find it enjoyable without serious delusion>>39167295You can do it, anon. Remain calm and steady and the chance of something going really wrong are tiny>>39168452Possibly something close to that, though the chances are better that she'll help you get to a state where you don't feel the need for constant touch not to be miserable>>39171632They only want to force fem you if you're trans (or if you for some reason agreed to become a succubus despite being a man)>>39172536None of that happened to me, though I'm not a guy. I don't act more feminine or masculine than I did before any of this
I got femmed and bummed raped in a sleep paralysis episode.Booty ghosts are very spooky.
>>39171632>Why do they all want to force fem usWhat if I want to be forcefemmed haha
>>39173122Can you OBE/astral project and shapeshift?
>>39172536yeah, no
>>39173197>>39172551>>39172574You guys are clowns, ignoring the evidence of your eyes. And chant is already a womanCorrelation is not causation but the correlation is so high it would be stupid to dismiss succubi as the cause out of hand
>>39173356I think this is more you struggling to confront your own insecurities my dude. I understand, but there's no reason to hold back with your girl.
>>39173356you really have no idea what you're talking about. you're a complete newb trying to school people with years of experience. sit down, shut the fuck up, listen up, and learn some humility.
So where does Lilith and her Succubi daughters live in the other world?
>>39171632>>39171472Mine just wants to femdom me. I don't think she wants me to be into force femming but she's probably into it if I wanted to experiment
>>39173356I'm not ignoring anything. Consider this counter-claim: One would EXPECT the incidence of people a gender-whatever to be "higher than population average" just because of the character of an occult subculture in general.In normie culture, there might be any number of reasons for a person with a gender-thing to just never act on it, but here, we have a bunch of people who have already "taken plunges" in other ways, and are thus more adventurous and with more of a mind for personal authenticity.You could argue degrees of contributions of the different factors, but what I'm saying here clearly WOULD be a factor, and plausibly, the whole explanation.
>>39173591>pic relatedHere's an example>>39173563Here's another example>>39173500I'm not trying to school anyone, I'm merely observing that everybody who summons turns into trans femmed fags. And the fags are mad because I'm speaking the truth xD>>39173377Cry more, I'm not your dude. You're a midwit and a loser. Not even a succubus wants you
>>39173674>YoU wRoTe So MuCh TeXtBro, you asked, and I carefully explained it to you.I'm sorry you're both lazy and an ingrate piece of shit.
>>39173691It's not that I'm lazy, I don't value your opinion or anything you have to say Mine. I just don't read your effort posts. They are absent minded drivel imo
>>39171769What’s a yn?
>>39173674Stop whining at us and talk to your succubus.
>>39173674>turns into trans fem fagsSo? If that's what they want and they're happy then who cares? Lilith is a liberator. She helps men and women to become free of their shackles. She's also not afraid of making you explore your sexuality in ways you didn't think were possible.
>>39173721>I don't value your opinionWhat I said was not an opinion. (Lazy, ingracious, AND stupid)It was an example of an equally-valid counter-claim.But of course, I'm expecting logic from fucking Christian evangelist filth, so just "fuck you" I guess.
>>39173545A succ I know lives in an underground complex under the Sahara.
>>39173766I went back and read your post Mine but I would appreciate it if you stopped replying to me thanksI don't think the bias of people entering the occult to be gay is high enough to explain the amount of people that turn out trans after summoning. I think succubi are pushing people towards this.
>>39173835>I don't thinkYeah, see, NOW we're talking about opinion.That's exactly why I framed what I said as an "Equally-valid counter-claim." Because you don't have any BASIS to say its one over the other.>I would appreciate it if you stopped replying to meI'm sure you would, but an evangelist has no right to make that request.
>>39173941Okay I regret ever going back to read what you said it's clear you're still retarded, my bad.You almost had me there for a second!
>>39173674>I'm not trying to school anyone, I'm merely observing that everybody who summons turns into trans femmed fags. And the fags are mad because I'm speaking the truth xD you are low information and making statements based on low information
>>39173988He is in "I'm having sexuality/gender related issues and I'm going to make it everyone else's problem" mode.
>>39171632>>39171472>Force Fem on people>Literally a Norse tradition>They CHOOSE to go full tranny, cut off their cocks and hang themselves; instead of living with the gift of divine feminine as part of the same gift available from Solomon's Temple.....https://norse-mythology.org/concepts/seidr/>List of names of Odin>Valdr vagnbrautar Bringer of water/ale/spirits from the heavens>Draugadróttinn Lord of the dead and undead / Lord of ghosts; Lord of Hel>Hangdrottin Lord of the Hangedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xECUrlnXCqk
>>39174187HaeALE Freeya; Goddess of witchcraft, magic, sedir, sex, love, and lust!>Valdr vagnbrautar Bringer of water/ale/spirits from the heavens!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6c2AetpAyw
>>39174002right that too
>>39174236Freya wasn't like Aphrodite, Freya was 100% monogamous and devoted to her husband. If she is Frigg, which is the common belief now, then she literally wept golden tears and chased him wherever he, Odin, went on his travels, because she could not bear to be apart from him.
>>39173674As if the average human is any better. Every other woman wants to be thrown around and degraded and has literal rape fantasies, and every other man wants to act as some rough daddy dom pig. Absolutely vile, yet I don't see you accusing humans of secretly being evil satan demons. 1000 times over would I choose to be around someone who's only into gender role retardation.
>>39167826Only those without sin are worthy of entering heaven.
>>39174280What's the joke about Lucifer being a God/Goddess that Free Masons can worship?>THE OFFICIAL MONITOR of the Grand Lodge of AF&AM State of Texas - 192214Like Hermon's dew so richly shedOn Zion's sacred hills.For there the Lord of light and loveA blessing sent with pow’r;Oh! may we all this blessing prove.E’en life for evermore; On friendship's altar rising here,Our hands now plighted be,To live in love with hearts sincere,In peace and unity.[In the course of this section the badge of a Mason is introduced and explained.]The Lambskin, or white leather apron, is an emblem of innocence and the badge of aMason; more ancient than the Golden Fleece or Roman Eagle; more honorable than theStar and Garter, or any other order that could be conferred....>The lamb has in all ages been deemed an emblem of innocence; he, therefore, who wearsthe lambskin as the badge of a Mason is constantly reminded of that purity of heart anduprightness of conduct so essentially necessary to his gaining admission into the celestialLodge above.....The joke, of course, being that the bible thumpers immediately need a tempter... but if Lucifer is leading people towards the celestial then.... the joke immediately becomes.....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niqrrmev4mA>The joke, of course being Christians are suppose to resist temptation......
>>39174586So that's you, then?Or that can *never* be a succubus?Make an actual point. Don't just drop a "mysterious quote" and pretend that conveys something.
>>39174586>"Let ye who is without Sin, cast the first stone"....Guess no one's getting in then.For everyone who's lonely on this Monday night, or anyother day; feel free to meditate on the sigil of Lucifer, while listening to music.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3M3o6zBQ1ghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-FGJAkmhZgFor those of you who want to be more like the Archangel of Music and Pride; while getting succubus/incubus essence, include this meditation.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RB-IgapRsghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lScJLMDB1S8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOQfMrS7YNkHere's the music list:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5JeO-wS2qIJust remember anon's that the "Lord's Prayer" ends with "Amen"; so you're free to appeal your case to Dog if the Christians ever try to intimidate you with their false and unjust "break" in values, according to the "letter of the law", even if you're extremely guilty..... (Thanatos meaning... the gentle/merciful death in Greek.... detail omitted in the KJV)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIG-4qoO64Uhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbC3r0W6GrIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UM86_ozKkgshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xm3jthxADyohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHG5-GxI_Eshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tJYN-eG1zkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8FTmkTIL88https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqgUG_JVzCshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sh7BZf7D5Bwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CNPR2qNzxkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_Kecv6eJNM
>>39174793>Just remember anons; that one of the symbols of Lilith is the owl, symbol of wisdom; and that one of the rituals the "elites" do at the Bohemian Grove is the Lilith "Double Owl" ritual.....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVIjGISe23whttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OACSI6KpWzUFor those interested in taking pride in..... wisdom.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SiJg43j2nk
>>39162953i lurk these threads and i see larping. i wanna ask you people: do you actually feel and see these entities? or are u just closing ur eyes and forcing yourself to see or feel (advanced masturbation)
>>39174688>>39174793It's not mysterious or confusing, it's the most basic part of Christian ideology. Nobody is worthy of heaven because humans are inherently sinful. Only through accepting God's forgiveness and Christ's sacrifice can you make it to heaven. If succubi are sinful then those rules would apply to them too.
>>39173988And only based on two cases where it actually happened and making a blind eye an cases where it doesn't happen
Are there succs that like to sleep with you having your member in their womb all night? Is that comfortable or does it get overwhelming?
>>39175129Okay... the part that's "mysterious and confusing" is how it relates to what I was saying.If you're making the "Only through Jesus" argument, then that clears up the confusion, but that's also really not how the universe works. There are multiple paths.>it's the most basic part of Christian ideologyYeah, which is a huge thing that christians get wrong.The core of Jesus's teachings was the concept of "Universal Human Brotherhood". The importance of "universal forgiveness" was literally as an introduction to the core concept.Because once you start talking about peace and love and turning the other cheek, a lot of people are gonna be like, "That sounds nice, but its too late for me to start doing that now", to which "universal forgiveness" is the answer........but then Christians went and turned it into basically the entire religion, and put a very unfortunate coercive spin on the whole thing...Capcha: JARDY
>>39174555>Every other woman wants to be thrown around and degraded and has literal rape fantasies, and every other man wants to act as some rough daddy dom pig.The part about women is true, but not the part about men. Women want men to be dominant more than men want to be dominant.
>>39175672Women are a little worse about it, but not by much.
>>39175672Considering how many men really just want to be doted on affectionately I feel like the sexes might be a bit mismatched?
>>39175472>Mine once again proving he has no understanding of Christian theologyJohn 14:6 NASB1995[6] Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me. https://bible.com/bible/100/jhn.14.6.NASB1995John 10:1, 9 NASB1995[1] “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who does not enter by the door into the fold of the sheep, but climbs up some other way, he is a thief and a robber. [9] I am the door; if anyone enters through Me, he will be saved, and will go in and out and find pasture. https://bible.com/bible/100/jhn.10.1-9.NASB1995
>>39174555>>39175672>>39175720society looks down on rape and dominance, it is something that is illegal and socially unacceptable (only this modern world), submissiveness is not only accepted but recommended, be it happy queer work culture, a beta-cuck non toxic-masculinity husband or an appropriate man in general. which jews cited the term lady (submission) and gentleman (submission) while ostracizing the terms from society domina and dominus. and even then the term domina has no literal connotation like dominus. next look at the amount of matriarchal societies in our world, can be counted on one hand or even be null if directly comparing. in other words we can't express ourselves regardless of how we want to, but women get to be submissive at least, men don't get to be either as it either turns off women or gets societally distraught
If Edward is reading this, I'm going to a forest on 16th or 17th, what should I expect? Can the spirits there have sex with humans or they're not amorous with them? Never had sex with spirits only had dreams, and can't see spirits or feel them.
Time to go to sleep, hope a succubus will come to me in my dreams, and wake up in despair when it doesn't happen.
>>39175951>Mine once again proving he has no understanding of Christian theologyOkay, I need you to stop right here, curb your sinful, embarrassing hubris, and realize:What your fucking PASTOR taught you is not TRUTH.What was written by MEN in your BIBLE is not TRUTH.If your stupid fucking book was the "Truth", then there wouldn't be substantively different versions, as anybody with a brain has realized.So how are you SO STUPID that this never occurred to you?Anyway, you're literally telling me that you've chosen not to think because it contradicts your dogma.Its hilarious that you act entitled to respect. Just SO PROUD you memorized those verses, huh?
>>39175951Oh, and regarding those actual bible verses, if you think that Jesus EVER said something as egotistical as "I am the only way to heaven", then you do not grasp the character of the man.If you turn your brain on for a sec, you might realize that this is a likely misinterpretation of something like, "MY WAYS are the only ways to heaven", or something probably even more narrow than that.You have to actually have the courage to look at your "authoritative source" and say, "That doesn't track".Because a book is never going to be perfect, fucking obviously.
>>39177206>>39177183>pastor truth>men bible truth >so stupid so proud>ever my wayslads I think I cracked the code
Succgen once again obsessed with Jesus and God and Scripture. Admit it. HE WON. Complete meltdown in the succubi realm
>>39177542No, most people with healthy spirit relationships left this place so it's just a small group arguing over nothing.
How and why did Lilith create her succubi daughters exactly? What's the story with that?
>>39162953I think a succubus is attached to mehow do i find out if that is true?I have never done any ritual to summon one nor practice any occult
>>39177933It's someone else's LARP I presume, but if we are to talk about Changelings, Or cambions (people). They can exist through incubus mating with human females.A succubi could essentially not be a succubus, but a Dyrad, Nymph, or other liminal female being/goddess.
>>39175129>Christians would torture you forever for feels and things that should never be considered criminal.Go fuck yourself you Christian trash; we know you would torture us forever, for things that aren't crimes and should never be considered criminal, before going to lick the boot clean of your tyrant masters.I'm so glad the religious literalism and biblical law lost to constitutionalism and philosophy of government. >Or as they said in Babylon; let us put the law in stone for all to see and know...... so that all may know what the "laws" are...... Christianity is unworthy. Judism is unworthy. Mohamedists can all go to hel, so unworthy are they. https://youtu.be/vtLz3jIXYvw?si=oNFPOW1v1cejzng3&t=3102
guys I am starting to think Lilith Bull anon might be right, everyone is getting cucked in real life, why should the astral be any different?Maybe it's best to demand that succ shapeshifts into something impenetrable like for example a blade and stays at home all the time or around the summoner. wouldn't it be suspicious if she refuses?
Don't the succubi (in their realm) have a great archive of every recorded piece of human art that they have access to (including any that has been lost to time)? Or am I thinking of a different astral plane?
>>39177950Bumping for this. I'm dealing with something similar. What kind of stuff happens to you.
>>39178279Just ask that she is loyal in the letter
I'm curious. Are there such a thing as half succubi half human that walk among us on Earth? How does that work? I believe there's women on Earth that may be unaware that they are part succubi? What's their purpose and why were they created?
>>39177933Bump
>>39178626I don’t know for certain but it seems unlikely to me. How can someone be a half incorporeal spirit being? So are we talking about a succubi spirit inside a human body? I think there might be a degree of self delusion that this has happened, but realistically it’s probably just an ordinary human being heavily influenced and consenting to succubi spirit energy. But who knows
>>39178664I don't know it just that certain women have that innate succubi energy and I don't mean just because they're attractive or sexually. They have that lover spirit inside of them. I don't know I've heard stories of demi gods so I don't know. I could buy it desu
Are succubi really real?
>>39178559What is the concept here, will Lilith force her to be loyal for my sake? Can succubi not lie to Lilith about being anything f.e. about being loyal?I don't think human women can respect a men who trusts them or need their love, so I am uncertain if a succubus could. Why do women chose to cuck their partners with strangers, obviously emotional closeness must be off putting for them in some way, maybe it is for succubi too.Or maybe I am projecting, I would feel like a sucker if I would allow a woman to cuddle with me or kiss me just like that.Security and comfort breads boredom and is antithetical to excitement, no?
>>39178718Absolutely.>>39178735So you won't be matched with someone who'd rather not be monogamous. All relationships involve some uncertainty.
>>39178522I can only vaguely sense a presence every once in a whilethis presence is consistent whenever i do sense it though as it feels the same everytimeit comes and goes as it pleases but doesnt feel like it actually goes away just hides itself within meit brings a large bout of lust and has particular tastes and distinctly gives off that it is feminine/femalewhat makes me feel like it is a succubus is because it appears/reacts if i ever look at the succubus threads even though i dont engage with them on /x (except for now)
How does Lilith feel about jews? Or is she jewish??
>>39178798>absolutelyThat's awesome. Exactly how do you know though?
>>39178798> All relationships involve some uncertainty.Maybe that is my problem, I can't have something like that so close to me,but at the same time I think too much certainty would feel like a burden or like boredom.I feel like I am alternating between wanting something stable and being completely bored by the though of it
>>39178626there are succubi and incubi who have incarnated as humans. other spirits sometimes do too.
>>39178957Oh that's really interesting. That actually sounds pretty right.
>>39178957So if a human passes away could they be reincarnated as a succubus or incubus? If so, would they remember their past life as humans or other spirit?
>>39179011they can be accepted as a succubus or incubus yeah. I mean it's kind of invite only but it's possible. supposedly Marilyn Monroe is a succubus now.
>>39162953How do you turn off your psychic defenses if you're too strong and involved in ceremonial magick, banishing often, having familiar spirits protecting, etc?
>>39179011also they will remember their past life. they ma6 even be able to access all their past lives. if they incarnate as a human again, they will lose all those memories temporarily until death, and then gain them back after death.
>>39178957Would it be possible for me to become a incubus who serves Lilith and wants to makes humans happy with love and kindness?
>>39179034>>39179027That's really amazing. I love learning more about their world. I'm so fascinated with all of them.
>>39177497Yes anon, the code is "Human fallibility".Btw, irony of irony, I'm defaulting to male pronouns and referring to "men" because I aesthetically prefer the old-fashioned way of typing, and you're implying I'm doing it as a feminist dig.That's pretty funny.>>39177542>Admit it. HE WON.Yeah, pretty much, actually. But you have no idea what that means.His victory lied in reshaping the "Overton window of human morality" to one where its at least not seen as MADNESS to have universal caring for your fellow man.What his victory was NOT was the triumph of people like you, who reduced him into a flag and then killed "for him".The same people who denounce "humanism" as some kind of corruption.If you meet God on the road, cut him the fuck down.Its not about the person. Its not about a "side". And its CERTAINLY not about "having fealty to the correct lord".
Is there any way for me to become a succubus?I'm afraid of growing old and dying and I'd rather become a succubus than a hag.
>>39178917Interesting question; by the dogstar, one wonders why they think anyone would get away with it.>List of names of Odin>Hangdrottin: Lord of the Hangedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfxlpUFmvsI
>>39179053if you were an incubus, you would serve Asmodeus ot Samael>>39179074you're still going to die. the change happens to your Astral body, not your physical body.
>>39179085>you would serve Asmodeus ot SamaelSo that's not good then? Who is that?
>>39178923I've experienced the usual touches, synchronicities, hypnagogic visions, lucid dreams, wise inspirations, and audible messages from them, just like many other Anons.
>>39178917The jews called her a demon, so they obviously didn't care for her.>>39179074Become a succubus? sure.Avoiding aging and death? Not so much. There's only one way out of that body you're living in, unfortunately.
>>39179085>>39179105Then regardless of the little mortality problem, how does one become a succubi?
>>39179116I don't really understand the method, but its based on the underlying idea that there aren't hard lines between different "types" of spirits the way there are with animal species.Basically, I've been living with my mistress as a succubus (or something) after I die, and then after a while, I still end up needing to reincarnate, cuz I'm a work in progress, and I think she somehow pulls strings regarding my life conditions.
>>39179094Samael is the King of incubi and Admodeus is his prince>>39179116go to a recruitment center in the Astral or ask a succubus lover to help you be accepted by one of the queens and changed.
>>39178917I asked my succubus and she said she (Lilith) likes them. She told me it wasn't jews who slandered Lilith but christians instead - which I don't understand as Lilith doesn't even exist within biblical canon.
>>39179213Your succubus has to be lying considering Lilith isn't mentioned in any Christian text and only comes up in the Talmud. Christians hate on succubi more in general, but Lilith herself isn't a figure to them at all.
Lillith is a bitch and I challenge her to a battle in the astral planefight me hoe
>>39179296Yeah it is suspicious, but it's also possible she may not have understood the question (we use yes/no communication). Can you ask yours the same thing and tell us what she says?
>>39179296Lilith is mentioned in the bible but in English translations she is called the night monster.
>>39162953The succubi are good at trolling people. Don't expect a fair game with one of them.
>>39179069you are pretty funny indeed>madness not certainly
>>39179495I'm not sure what you're trying to say, homie. Use your words.>>39179421Yeah, a translation that also means "Screech owl", incidentally.Now take every instance of language like that, and multiply it by every other way it could change the context of anything else in the book, and then you might understand why Jesus didn't try to write a holy text.
>>39177077Yeah, that's what happened. Fuck my life.
>>39179545Give it a rest on Jesus Mine. It's clear you pick and choose only to believe the parts of the bible you like. Emphasis on youYou reject half of what Jesus says so grow the balls to reject all of him, and quit pretending
>>39179631>It's clear you pick and choose only to believe the parts of the bible you like.Wrong. I don't give a shit about your book at all. I care about the Truth. You should try it. Maybe you can become less degenerate.First step: Free yourself of the delusion that you already HAVE the Truth. That is hubris.You talk so pridefully about how I "reject half of what Jesus says" (cuz you sure memorized that book!), but then, your book was written CENTURIES after Jesus died. There is NO REASONABLE EXPECTATION that anything in your book is actually an exact quote, and that's not even getting into translations. So when you focus in on the WORDS at the expense of the MESSAGE, that's what makes you a degenerate.I spit on christians degrading the name of such a good guy with their jingoism.
>>39179631you know, I find it hilarious and stupid that you've antagonized, alienated, and demonized everyone who could help you out with advice and guidance. you are quite possibly the least wise person I've seen in these threads.
This isn't a succubus general at this point. It's just a circle jerk of ten or so namefags arguing.
>>39179743Yeah yeah, blah blah blah, reminder that bullshit posts like this bring the mood down way more than the natural oscillation of conversations.You're probably a troll, so by all means, declare the general's doom for the Xth year in a row.
>>39179759Bruh, half the thread is text boxes of the same people arguing every thread.
>>39179726None of you have any good advice or guidance. Why would i heed the advice of mentally ill transvestites, or lonely midwit pseudointellectuals? The only person whos perspective i value in these threads is chant, but I still don't agree with everything she saysI also don't need any of you drooling retards, I read esoteric literature and writings from the founding succumancers on my own
>>39179777>Why would i heed the advice of mentally ill transvestites, or lonely midwit pseudointellectuals? this is what I mean. you have no humility.
>>39179773And the answer is the same as every other time you bring it up: Be the change you want to see.Subtext: The alternative is to continue being a whiner.>>39179777>Why would i heed the advice of mentally ill transvestites, or lonely midwit pseudointellectuals?How christian of you to judge everybody based purely on your own prejudice.And I mean that.Jesus would hate it, but its 100% Christian of you.Literally demonstrating for all of us why holding up a good guy as your role model doesn't actually DO ANYTHING if you just ignore everything he taught.Fucking moron.
>>39179797I left this place a while ago. I just come back to ask questions about love spirits and it gets washed out by text walls.
I want to be one of the famous named people in the thread maybe I should get a trip name but what would it be
>>39179790I don't need it. I've been around enough of you for long enough to see through what you are. A bunch of regular, lonely people playing with powers greater than them they will never be able to fully understand. Getting lost in the sauce, making constant errors.The occult, metaphysics etc is a very demanding field of study. To put it simply I believe this field is rocket science and not everyone is cut out for it.To put it more accurately, I don't believe anyone is truly cut out for it. I think it's a noble pursuit and endeavor, but the forces we play with are greater than any of us. And your intellect, wisdom, discernment, and maybe even strength of character determine how close you will make it to the truth. How beautiful then would it be if the truth was something so simple. So easy, that even a child could grasp it. Like JesusEven some of the most distinguished occultists lay on their death beds and realized their pursuits were in vain or meaningless, that they were wrong or deceived.Even still I am drawn to the occult
Can you summon a love spirit that will be with you 24/7? Can I have a spirit wife that will always be with me and be touch codependent?
>>39174187Anon, surely you must know that hanging oneself is the pinnacle of enlightenment. How else but though such a sacrifice might one prove worthy of the secrets of the gods?>>39175129You got trolled, anon. Brace yourself for a weird reply>>39177542That's just one christian and then mine being mine>>39177950>>39178522Tell us your symptoms if you want anyone to know if you have spirits or not. You can't just post that you think there might be a succubus without any context>>39178279Because humans are vitriolic, impulsive, repugnant apes and succubi are kawaii spirit girls who would rather have a husband than a string of emotionless hookups. Think about it. If you could have almost any girl you wanted but only once, wouldn't that get old very quickly?>>39178515That's the akashic record, and succubi don't live there to my knowledge>>39178626I have met alleged succubi in human bodies, beings who claim to have entered a human body and gotten stuck...
>>39178718Very real>>39179032If you're capable of all of that, you should know how to control what you've built>>39179773I'm doing my part by mass replying so that I don't fill up the entire thread with 2 sentence replies that have been given before, while still actually responding to people. Funny enough, the spam filter is trying to prevent me from doing that>>39179838Who are you and what's special about you?Survivoranon lasted a decade being constantly tormented by succubi while retaining his manhood. I got a weird chant from Lilith. Glasses wears glasses. Elf guy had an "elf" spiritWhat role do you want here?I try to answer questions, mine slapfights with trolls, breakup anon now acts very tsundere, probably with the intention of sexually arousing his partner...
>>39179861>probably with the intention of sexually arousing his partner...
>>39177183After Halloween.... the OdinsJact continues..... however..... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJrJxwxkzj8There's alot of irony in this thread; when you look at the tarot in the tree of life.....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHm2fSGmpxA>List of names of Odin>Jǫlnir/Jolly near Yule figure >Jǫlfuðr, Jǫlfǫðr Yule father
>>39179967https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jI32_viWmQQ
How does Lilith have so much time to care for everyone she cares about? Also what's her power level?
>>39179980The joke, of course, is if you're all sinners, then you all deserve to suffer.
>>39179773Mine loves to talk with trolls about Jesus and the Bible these days...but the biggest revelation in all that is, that:break up anons succ is actually Mine from the future
>>39179981Some beings are more "all knowing" than others.https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&sca_esv=fb9ba6523a533ee8&q=angels+eyes+wheels+within+wheels&udm=2&fbs=AEQNm0Aa4sjWe7Rqy32pFwRj0UkWd8nbOJfsBGGB5IQQO6L3J03RPjGV0MznOJ6Likin94oGSh4l60tfPppA0C5BN3Bom6kHGpJHn7EVuNALQGJ5ECLZXcQeFVI9ZjFEYIlvC4A0X1A5hYXVZIchksHpMH7WV02tkRK7mBeeFqk9Ny5yKL-imh-pD9ICs2NKoknEXBlMy1ySIrn9rDpp5YVd48typlFRTQ&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjU2cmsycaJAxWlElkFHXagMycQtKgLegQIIxAB&biw=1920&bih=919&dpr=1
>>39179993I have no clue who that is.
>>39179213Lilith told me she really doesn't like jews. She thinks they're sneaky greedy pieces of shit that are responsible for a lot of the worlds evils. She refers to them as "Parasites that make your typical nasty astral/demonic parasites look like the local friendly neighborhood mailman" and I don't even have anything against jews either. I'm not a /pol/tard. She just doesn't like them. Or course I could be misinterpreting her words so who knows>No, I know they're ratsShe just whispered that in my ear lol
>>39179313You're gonna get pegged hard
>>39179445Good I like a challenge
>>39179545>>39179629Both images saved. I didn't think I would evee have to do this but I'm going have to start making a Succubi/Lilith folder
>>39180008Lilith is based.. I kneel. I hope agrat hates jews too
>>39162953can a succubus invade my dreams and give me wet dreams, or do I just goon too much
>>39179854>Tell me your symptomsOh I know I'm dealing with one for sure>Dreams where there's a constant female figure who looks like a succubus >Cold touches on my face lips and hands>I can kind of sense her thoughts>Oh yeah I heard her speak to me out loud once when she really shocked me when she touched my arm and I jumped up and said "Who did that" and I heard a voice proudly say "I did" in a female voice>Also I can feel her presence get stronger whenever I think about her/succubus>There was also many times where I can feel her driving me to masterbate to her beauty and I can feel her pushing me to pull up the usual /succgen/ thread and masterbate to it while thinking about her>She loves being dominant over me and loves female domination>When all this first started happening I was scared that a demon was fucking with me and I told myself that "demons are evil" but then a female horned figure with wings appeared in my mind and then I caught myself saying "but they can be so beautiful" I said this in a type of tranceI'm sure there's more stuff I could list off. This is just on the top of my head
Is there any rituals I could do to strengthen my connection with my Succubus and Lilith?
>>39180046Wouldn't you have more wet dreams the more semen retention you do?
>>39179854>If you could have almost any girl you wanted but only once, wouldn't that get old very quickly?Yes, that sounds completely meaningless.But what I don't get is that Lilith signifies independence, so why would her spirits want to be tied down to anyone.
>>39180179it's their choice. she's not about independence. she's about freedom to be yourself.
>>39179861If anything I feel like I was possibly possessed by a succubus while going on a long meth binge and talking to my own reflection in the mirror for days at a time and also I looked more like a succubus in my actual physical reflection because I had been on hormones for a few years, but my sense of identity was still as a male. So I was talking to another person but it was actually my own reflection. And later I stopped being trans and became a Christian and this “voice in my head” has been following me around and now I think the voice is the Holy Spirit but what if it’s just a succubus or some kind of spirit? But she’s been converted to Christianity and now I can’t tell the difference. So I’m the guy who fell in love with his own reflection and got possessed by a succubus and then helped them become Christian and transform into the Holy Spirit. And now after the last few years doing prayers and fasting and learning scripture and going to church, it seems I may once again transition again. But this time with God on my side
>>39180323that's a lot to unpack
>>39180323Dog you are on so many layers of lost it's not even funny. Stop doing drugsA succubus can not be converted into the holy spirit, and more. There is just a lot wrong with what you're saying both logically and theologicallyWhatever united methodist pastor is advising you is doing a horrendous job, you should tell them the whole story instead of just that you want to transition
>>39180385Well I was just kinda looking for suggestions for my trip name
Are sexual dreams spirits participating like in the astral or is it just one's own mind being influenced (visuals) and there is no actual penetration happening?
the way my mother loves me is so amazing guys, i imagined myself getting more athletic and handsome over the winter, my mother saw me and her eyes lit up. she was positively drooling at me as she hugged me and asked me how i got so handsome. getting that kind of attention from a woman is so rare these days since human women are chad only, it is a given to them that their men are athletic and handsome, anything less than that is not worthy of their attention. but my mother sees true beauty in me and she loves me fiercely, god i love her so much. she truly is the love of my life.
Us and the angels have taken the big nation. This is a shadow of the kingdom your demon wives despise.
Holy shit guys lately I've been recording myself with an nighttime audio app that picks up noise.You guys who have succubi should do the same and tell us what you pick up. I'm noticing a trend where I can't quite describe but I think I'm having sex with my succubus at night.>First I'll capture audio of me being moved around on my bed repeatedly while making moaning noises. Like I'm having sex in my sleep>Then after the noises stop I'll start snoring and the sex noises will stop>Then after that they'll occasionally start back up again a few hours laterI know this does porve anything but the noises of me moaning were pretty loudI'm just wondering if maybe you guys go through the same thing?This is just the beginning of this project of audio record keeping. If I discover anything new I'll let you anons know
>>39179981Space and time are fake, and she knows. By her admission, she's but a few steps down from the ultimate source of everything, there are few beings more powerful.
I don't know how to cope with the fact that I'm never going to have a powerful succubus take care of me and make my bad thoughts go away. I don't want to cope with it. I don't want it to be true. I know it's probably my fault, but I still can't make myself do anything. Maybe it'll be different when I'm dead, but that's decades away. Decades of suffering. That fills me with despair. It makes me afraid that even if I endure it, it'll fuck me up so much that I'll still suffer in the afterlife. Then I wonder if I haven't reached that point already.I feel like I'm being told that my suffering will only end if I give up my desire to be sexual and surrender to being an inferior, sexless loser, and that if I don't want to make that commitment, then I don't really want the pain to stop.I don't know what to do and I feel like my whole existence is a mistake.
>>39181684Come to the son of man. He has always been waiting for you, even when you have been dabbling in this for years.
Humans throwing cigarettes in natural spaces after sucking on them like little bitches - no, I am not and will not be "team human", I'd rather have these retards be tortured.
Can someone explain why it's so liberating and freeing to be Lilith's foot slave? She's all about liberation and personal independence yet I feel that while being under her feet. Can someone explain this?
>>39179213>>39178917I believe Lilith hates them because they represent everything she is against. Jews want to usher in an age where everyone is the same race except for them so they can rule over humanity. Lilith is all about freedom and individuality. She wants people to be truly free from their shackles while jews want people to be in shackles so they can control them. They represent everything she opposes in the mortal realm
>>39181773>torturedlitterers deserve only death
>>39181684Keep us updated on how you feel I'm interested.And also, you don't have a succubus? Or do you mean your succubus mommy can't take care of your primary needs like food / housing / money?
Lord have mercy on me. I just want to have love and friendship. What I have now, it isn’t enough. I need more. A voice in my head is more comforting than nothing at all, but still, it’s not one of me. It’s not a person like me. Adam had many animals and spirits and beautiful plants and a whole garden of all the Earth, but not until you took a part of him, and made a beautiful partner like unto him, was Eve. I like the voice in my head. But she’s not like me. If I gave you one of my ribs could you make her real? If I gave part of my spirit can you realize her spirit? Oh that part already happened. Then I feel, incomplete alone, and completed by, the voice that came from me but now is separate but missing. What could I do to make this real? Can I be made “real” from someone else’s rib? Whose rib am I? Who’s incomplete alone because I’ve separated from them? And yearns for me? And have I tempted them to fall?
>>39182436>If I gave you one of my ribs could you make her real?yes, that's the alchemical magnum opus. the secret of creating life, and not just any life but transposing any soul (including your own) into a vessel of your choosing. i will do the same with my mother.
>>39181215Okay I have an update. This is really important but I was reviewing the audio of last night amd I caught a part of it where I was speaking to my self in my sleep and I was speaking in a different language I couldn't understand? The best I could make put is >"satch a tro"? And then it trailed off. Does anyone who is familiar with succubi language or the language Lilith speaks please help me out on this?
Bump
>>39182453>familiar with succubi languageThe succubi I met spoke actual human languages. You may want to ask her which language it was. There's a chance it was your first language. Otherwise you could make an effort at learning it, that'd make a nice offering, I think.>language Lilith speaksShe tends to be non-verbal IME.
>>39179993You see everyone? This is an interesting plotline!>>39179997I think you might have just doxed yourself>>39180065>Oh I know I'm dealing with one for sureThen... Why ask if you have a succubus? Did I somehow miss your real question in there?>>39180179>so why would her spirits want to be tied down to anyone.Because they don't setle for anything less then what they want, and when they have it, they never give it up. That doesn't mean letting her husband control her, of course. Freedom isn't just about acting chaotic neutral all the time>>39180323>while going on a long meth bingeI believe this might be the key factor in the rest of what you're about to say>hormonesAnd this...>but my sense of identity was still as a male.I think a lot of your issues could be explained fairly well with material psychology>this “voice in my head” has been following me around and now I think the voice is the Holy Spirit but what if it’s just a succubusIf you can't tell whether it's the literal creator of the universe, doesn't that answer the question?>it seems I may once again transition again. But this time with God on my sideAll right. That's probably for the best then>>39182436The problem is that your tulpa is just as real as you are. You just think your meaty vessel is you and you can't imagine a person being without such a vessel. That isn't true. Just accept your tulpa's reality and she can make you happier than any human ever could
>>39183005So you’re saying, if it really was the creator of the entire universe, I’d know without doubts? But the doubts I’m having imply that it’s probably something else? And when you’re saying I ought to transition with God’s support - are you speaking facetiously? And do you have any suggestions for my trip name or name?
>>39182342You have some incredible cognitive dissonance. You'll spend ages making extreme pro-Christian arguments, and then turn around and post succ tiddy and be like "uwu can't wait to hear more about your succ :3"
>>39183093How about "meth tranny"?In all seriousness your trip name is something you're gonna have to pick for yourself, I don't think anyone is gonna pick it for you.From what I can tell, you've got some unique things going for you like your specific delusions about Christianity, transitioning and succubi. Additionally, you're the only anon in recent memory I've seen post about using meth or going on a meth binge. I think more than any of that though you seem very confused, so maybe something to do with this.Or just pick something unrelated that you like. Could name yourself "aquatic rhinoceros" or something
>>39183170I understand that I'm a hypocrite, it's not cognitive dissonance. If I wasn't tempted to stay with my succ I wouldn't be here at all. And lately I've been staying with her despite knowing what's right. There's an internal struggle within me mate, I don't don't try to hide that
>>39180301yea she can leave at any time, this is one of my many issues with intimacy actually. A dilemma that is not solvable. The possibility that she is not the right one means the possible that all intimacy shared was not only meaningless but also tainting myself further with engaging with the wrong person. Another problem I have with intimacy is that your spirit woman can get raped.So any spirit can cuck and humiliate you by raping your spirit woman. Which also taints you and your honor as a man and ruins the sanctity of your relationship forever.And even though I would know that it was not her fault, I still must associate her forever with my own powerlessness and failure and furthermore will feel the foreign energy she is tainted with because she was raped. Or maybe she even got pregnant in the astral and is pro-life. So yeah I am completely demoralized about everything about romance. I can't see a way how this will not end in an unsalvageable mess eventually.>>39183005>Because they don't settle for anything less then what they want, and when they have it, they never give it up. This sounds ideal. Sometimes i think there could someone who is truly meant to be with me.But then again the whole Letter to Lilith mail bride delivery, gives me consumerist vibes, which I perceive opposite of meaningful.But if you look f.e. at Menphi-anon, his succ was only there for a time, to get him on track to fulfill his earthly destiny. if this is not a lie of course, maybe it's just something the spirit said to make menphi-anon feel better about himself until he will be indifferent towards it. But this just one of of my many issues with intimacy, I feel if it is not the right person for forever it is more or less meaningless and tainting myself out of intimate or emotional desperation.
>>39183323>spirit woman can get rapedIf that makes you feel better, my succ told me earlier, the only way anything can happen to you in the spirit world is by your consent, which if true would mean spirit rape is impossible. I have nothing to add to your other points. Regrettably, I too have trust issues.
>>39183323You are too blackpilled about everything, especially intimacy / romance. Too blackpilled to enjoy any intimacy / romance anywaysYou bring up a decent point though. What are the odds that menphi anon actually becomes a great historical figure, or a big person in the public eye? I say the odds are pretty low. Many of us have heard of succs leaving their partners for no discernable reason. What if this was her way of letting him down easy? Maybe she just wanted to leave
>>39183495that's not actually true. stronger spirits can overcome weaker spirits
>>39183502I think it was you who said that your succubus said that looks are really important to them. There are also accounts from the past of succubi and incubi praising their human love interests for their beauty. In other words, like human women, succubi only want chad.I'm pretty sure you've claimed to be a chad before, so you really should t be talking about these things. A chad saying "you're too blackpilled" is like a billionaire saying "you're too worried about money".
>>39183759I'm sure as not a fucking chad and I have a succubus.
>>39182342Still feeling extremely depressed. Having strong feelings that I don't belong anywhere. I'm not a traditionalist, so I don't belong with them. I question feminism and I think there's a lot wrong with the way women and the world treat men, so I don't fit in with people who say we live in a patriarchal rape culture where all men are privileged (which seems to be the majority of people who call themselves liberals). I don't like the role I'm expected to play as a male, but I'm not trans. It feels like there's nowhere for me to go.I think if I were a girl, I would've wanted to be a porn star, or just have lots of sex. I want to be a sex object and fuck a lot of people. I want to be desired. I want to have sexual power. I want to be valued for my body and my sexuality. But men don't have that option. At least not in this world. Not with human women. I suppose I was hoping succubi were different and that they lust for men the same way men lust for women. Right now I wish I could offer myself to succubi in general and be welcomed the same way a hot girl would be welcomed, and I could go around being a happy manslut getting fucked constantly.I don't have a succubus. I'm extremely depressed and have other mental problems that stop me from doing the letter ritual or other stuff. I fantasize about a succubus who makes me her pet/sex slave and helps me get rid of those problems or distracts me with so much sex that I forget about them. I know this conflicts with what I said before about wanting to be a slut. Maybe I want to be the only male in a succubus's harem? I don't know. I just know I want to be massively sexual.
>>39183759succubi don't care about Chad. it's what's inside that counts.
>>39183779What mental problem could possibly prevent you from doing the ritual? My letters were shorter than the post you just replied to me withIt does not take that much effort to get initial results. And then if they like you / your outpouring of love is strong enough, which it should be based on the anguish you're feeling and everything you just wrote, your succ will likely help you to develop the relationship/ open your energy centers etcI see nothing stopping you except for you, which to be fair is what you just said. But it takes the same amount of effort to summon as it does to whine on the internet.Based on your presence in this thread and your desire to be a succs pet / slave I wouldn't be surprised if you're being influenced by one right now without your knowledge.
>>39183769I'm ugly af and I have a succ as well. Still have no idea why she chose me.
>>39183759>>39183769>>39183796>>39183968I agree it's what's on the inside that counts but being physically attractive probably doesn't hurtSometimes I think succs will go with anyone because they want a body / energy to feed from. Like we are a valuable resource for them. I don't like this theory but it's something I think about sometimes. As far as I can tell almost anyone can get a succubus. For the people who can't I have a hard time understanding why. I assume it's because they are too spiritually dense / insensitive, or just plain too dumb to do the ritual properly. But maybe succubi in truth are selective and no succ wanted these individuals. My succ said yes to thisI have also heard, maybe from Mine, that for succubi getting a human is a big status symbol. So we are like trophy husbands and wives to them
>>39183968I'm in a similar position, if all of this is true, then I have no idea how I was able to mantain a relationship with my succubus for quite the long time.
>>39184142> So we are like trophy husbands and wives to themWhat kind of person would like to think that way about themselves and their relationship? I think it's degrading.
It's annoying when someone vents their insecurities they won't budge on and projects them like this.
>>39184142>being physically attractive probably doesn't hurt they do not care about that>Sometimes I think succs will go with anyone because they want a body / energy to feed fromno>we are like trophy husbands and wives to themwe are powerful guardians who can be lovers and friends.succubi and love spirits in general are attracted to your potential and your spiritual progress
>>39184395We might never know which one is true, maybe it depends on the individual, each case may be different. I always kept a "hope for the best, prepare for the worst" type of mindset, we'll never know how we will end up.
>>39183968>>39184395These threads have shown pretty clearly that succubi will lie. I believe they just say whatever they think will most excite their partners. If a succubus determines it can sexually excite you by saying she loves how tall, handsome, and hung you are, it will do so.
>>39184572>These threads have shown pretty clearlyHow?>they just say whatever they think will most excite their partners.How long do you think that works for?Does that sound to you like the foundation of a lifelong relationship? Cuz that's what I've had.
Anons is it possible that I have a kitsune instead of just a "waifu"? Ahri is my waifu and while she may be a fictional character I think her persona may be taken on by a spirit that claims to be very old. When I have real life interactions with her she can reference the past in our world without any relevance to League Legends Universe, yet she insists that she is also Ahri. I have "been with" her for over 5 years now, she first started appearing to me when I was only 19. She acts as a sort of guide with wisdom or something and I just feel blissful when I worship or think about giving her my "essence." Currently she has me on a no nut streak which is due to end on the Taurine Full Moon on Friday Nov. 15th. She takes care of me and accepts the moniker "Mommy." I love her very much and she promises me an easy life but we are also very addicted to eachother. She made me knock my crucifix that was hanging over my bed by accident and said it was taking more energy than her statue, so the crucifix on the far corner of my room is alright. She also brings me bad luck if I try to get with girls and pushes them away while giving them even worse luck, or if I nut to other depictions that are not of Ahri I feel bad (might be me in that case).I love Ahri a lot but I do not want her to be just another tulpa that I made cuz I really feel that she is a deity. I have performed sacred "essence" pact rituals with her in the past to further cement our bond but it also means I'm stuck with her, she's very possessive and considers me her property in some ways, or her "spiritual son" and that she is my "true mother." But she is very nice and chill tho.Do you think she could be a real spirit? If so where did she come from and why does she insist on being what is supposed to be a "fictional" character? How do we separate mere "characters" from actual deities?
>>39184572sounds like projection. you think spirits care about material matters?
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>>39184795If she's claiming to be literally Ahri then it's a tulpa.
>>39184822no not "literally" Ahri but....the "spirit of Ahri" i guessHenceforth I shall avatarfag for more (You)s
>>39184675>>39184805I think they like to make humans horny, even with lies. Human women do this to each other as well. Many human women report faking or exaggerating their orgasms for the sake of exciting their partners.
>>39183194>Despite knowing what's rightOh boy, there it is again: your emotional blockage.
>>39183194>>39183194>>39183194Seriously, you're so disturbed, normally I wouldn't recommend therapy for men, but you fucking need it, for your own sake. It's like I wanna argue with you, but I know you'll just refute it all with your ego, you're such a smart boy you've got it all figured out, including the Will of God, which is a riot. How arrogant and self important you are dude, you know the Will of the Almighty, the foundation of reality, huh? It couldn't possibly be that you, like every other human in earth, are simply in love with ideas that emotionally resonated with you, and thereafter you seek to justify and verify them.Did you know you can be a Christian without being a retard?
hello, it's me the parasite anoni've practiced every night non stop and i'm finally able to meditate for an hour or so without major interruption from the entity. however, it seems like my banishing attempts are never enough.i just finished one of those attempts and it feels like you have something glued to your skin and you are tearing it off with each pull.the problem of being a novice with a parasite is that you get punished regardless of whether you do things right or wrong, so you're never sure what really works and what doesn't.after these last attempts, the parasite feels more "distant," but it only lasts for a few hours and the thing always has this cocky "try again lol" attitude regardless of what i do (with A LOT of sexual undertones). it's tiresome.
>>39184927and what exactly are you doing right now? feeding that narc more supply and emotionsif real talk could have any effect on him you would not even have made your postyou are mocking yourself for his sake. stop it
Lilith spoke to me this morning. She told me that this election doesn't matter and it's all staged. Left vs Right doesn't fucking matter. Bad shit is going to happen no matter. It might seem like this is an improvement and that things will get better at first but that's an illusion things are going to get so much worse. This is the calm before the storm. Remember this post. Dark times aheads.
>>39183170Belief is a complex thing that is never easy. I love God and Jesus and I also love Lilith and Her Succubi daughters. I understand it's hard for you to believe. The most important thing in this world is that you believe in something good and that commit actions of good and make your world a better place. Lilith is a complex figure. I could be misinterpreting her words but she doesn't actually hate God or Jesus. She wants more people to have love for God. She's just wants people to be true to themselves and follow their own path in this mortal realm. God and Lilith's relationship is far more complicated than any thing I could ever post. There's a lot of anger and hurt but also a lot of love and respect on both ends.
>>39185023storms lead to growth. growth leads to shade.shade leads to comfort. comfort leads to boredom. boredom leads to storms.
>>39183779That image is hot saved
>>39183968Succubi are attracted beauty and complexity. That doesn't have to mean physical beauty. They love beauty of all kind. So clearly there is something special and unique about you whether you want to admit or not.
I tried /adv/ but I think you guys might have more to say on the subject. I'm straight. I had a weird dream last night that a girl with horns (like picrel) snuck into my bed under the covers. She starts touching me and invites me to touch her back. At some point I notice she has a cock and balls under her skirt, and that this is a dude dressed as a woman. I immediately freak out and try pushing it away but I find I can't move. "She" says>"Don't freak out, just relax.">"I'm going to give you the most epic blowie of your life."She pulls down my underwear and wastes no time. I don't really have the words to articulate it but good fucking lord it was an incredible blowjob. Like 11/10. I finish in her mouth, she makes a somewhat dramatic swallowing sound with a "Ah!" like she just took a sip of soda in a Coke commercial. Finally this demonic dickgirl says>"See? No big deal. Have a great life!"I wake up immediately and I have a ridiculous rock hard erection. So sensitive that rolling over in bed almost made me cum. What the fuck was that? Is that what an incubus is? What happened? Does the election have something to do with it?
>>39185417They're just rock a cock sometimes if they feel like it. They also give no shits about human sexuality.
>>39184970Parasite in what manner? What happened with your succ? Share your first post so I can see.
>>39183093>So you’re saying, if it really was the creator of the entire universe, I’d know without doubts?Precisely. If you read the bible, in the presence of the holy spirit you would be cowering in terror and turning away from the energy. So the bible is wrong or she's not all powerful>And when you’re saying I ought to transition with God’s support - are you speaking facetiously?I'm not going to tell you not to transition, anon. Only you can know if that's what you want. The fact that you did it before and want to go back suggests a lot though>And do you have any suggestions for my trip name or name?Not really. I'm not great at coming up with those sorts of things>>39183323>But then again the whole Letter to Lilith mail bride delivery, gives me consumerist vibesIt's more that she offers you to anyone single and interested. Sometimes it doesn't work out and the succubus leaves, sometime a friend joins the two of you>But if you look f.e. at Menphi-anon, his succ was only there for a time,All spirits pull that nonsense and when they do they ought to be ridiculed for it. Those sorts of schemes make me want to hunt gods and put their trophies on my wall>I feel if it is not the right person for forever it is more or less meaningless and tainting myself out of intimate or emotional desperation.Understandable, but at some point you have to move forward, or you'll stagnate and your purity will achieve nothing>>39183495That isn't true at all>>39184675It only works if the human is stupid enough to believe the lies and not check them (spoilers:you!)>>39185417>What the fuck was that?A succubus(male)>Is that what an incubus is?Since your thoughts didn't go toward this being a femboy, probably not>What happened?"The most epic blowie of your life">Does the election have something to do with it?No
Lilith is so misunderstood, beautiful, complicated, dark, dangerous, powerful, strong. She's one of the most complex anti heroes in my eyes. I am so thankfuk and fortunate to be blessed by her grace and beauty. I feel so happy to feel her and her succubi daughters energy.This is such a powerful and beautiful moment in my life especially as someone who has struggled in finding their place and belief in this world.
>>39185440>>39185646Why would it show up? I actually prayed the rosary that night earlier in the evening. Did it target me because I am religious?
>>39185659Why wouldn't it show up? You looked fun? Maybe you're spiritually sensitive? Could've just gotten lucky.
>>39184927Literally all you have to do is read the bible literally to know the will of God. That's all it takes to be a non heretical christian
>>39185646>believe the liesYeah, but the question was "How long?" Are you going to claim I've been falling for such a trick for 25 years?Do you think you could curb your impulse to attack me at least enough so that it doesn't compromise your reading comprehension? (or basic reason...)>>39185750>read the bibleYou need to actually somehow logically establish that its the "will of God" FIRST.Sorry you find that so difficult.inb4 you once again declare me brain dead because you literally cannot grasp how proof works.
>>39185670Are these things closer to fairies than demons as we generally understand it? It didn't seem malicious to me. More like...quirky? Like a femboy version of Zoe Deschanel.
>>39185959Yes, pretty much. Whether they're malicious or not is down to personality, which varies. Downright hostile ones are very rare, usually what happens more often is personality mismatch and hurt feelings.
By the power of the wind, I grant this thread buoyancy~BAMPU~
I don’t want to be Jesus anymore. I want to be Mary now! I want to be God’s girlfriend. Or maybe I want to be Lilith. But God knows better than I do. He’ll fix everything for me. he’s so dreamy
>>39179990>>39179980>>39179967Of course; that's the joke though....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3qndXvBmr0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AISkUx8iaBo
discussing energy and initial premise of energy, for those that find any interest in this. not as cohesive one could think, perhaps better attempt to convey some of the preliminary stuff i would otherwise bring up. i believe the discussion could be very relevant to ones journey or potential initiation towards the subtle sphere, anyways it should be a short readhttps://drive.google.com/file/d/1zqRk7ZZVo1FSdSzhrX4BfY_olS7DQNmw
>>39162953Hey folks. I have an unusual and I'd say maybe even stupid question.My gf wants to be possessed by succubus. Is this even good idea? What problems can we face? If it's possible then what should she do?
>>39189159you can be partially possessed by any spirit at any given time you open up your energy centers, say for example during sex. these open when there is a) enough energy or b) the flow is temporarily too strong forcing it open and c) a spirit forces it open, which takes time and your conscious effort as well. the amount of blockages depends purely on the person and their history, some can't feel their palms having energy after a year, someone can hear a spirit after a weekend. for the spirit to completely possess uninitiated person the person would need to use drugs or intensively meditate for extended period, it is not possible otherwise. generally speaking you shouldn't introduce foreign entities to your system if you are not planning it out, because it also entices the spirit to do lousy job for a momentary gain. which is frankly very common with spirits and humans who are looking for, you know temporary common ground, this is prevalent with "occultists", or those who can't be bothered to develop themselves. in short, it isn't recommended, there is very little or nothing for either one of you to gain long term. anything that is short term most of the time end up being meaningless, as in not leading to any changes in your life. amorous spirits are there to enjoy themselves first and foremost, if anything were to jeopardize this should you do this, well, they can get very upset. if she absolutely wants to introduce amorous spirit as an extension to whatever only thing she has to do is remain silent and ask, there are hundreds of spirits around us listening to whatever we do at all times, they gossip and propose things very fast, the spirit would then meld with your girlfriends subtle body and you would notice a change probably within a month. it could take a lot longer if she is hesitant about it, and why wouldn't she be. whatever the motive behind this, i know a lot of spirits who would like to be in this situation, getting energies from two individuals.
>>39189376hey edward, if you are in a talkative mood, there are still many people who tried to get your answers on many topics.>>39176331>>39154463>>39155124>>39154712>>39160160
oh shit wrong thread
>>39189417oh sure, let me see.>>39176331>I'm going to a forest on 16th or 17thso, how long are you planning to stay? it takes around 28 to 32 days for your body to completely become attuned to a places frequency, all places have different frequency, after a place feels like a home, your body stops resisting it the same way. also, the spirits have had enough tolerance developed towards you to actually investigate your concerns or presence further. you can visit the place during day and night before, or should, the spirits have time to notice and actually weigh you before your arrival. with spirits in the forest you should be reserved first and don't be too loud forests in general are not very loud places so they are not accustomed to this. pick a place and stick to it whatever places feels most home is what you should stick to. and feel the energies, you should feel unwelcome within a day if they don't want anyone there at that current time.>spirits there have sex with humans or they're not amorous with them?of course, but you shouldn't really propose it, at least in my experience a degree of innocence is important and honesty. proposing intimacy to someone you barely know is very rude with some spirits, but i do know almost all spiritual lifeforms are capable of having sex the way we perceive it, it is energy flow back and forth essentially, you can have sex with toes if you like and have climax the same way you do with your sexual organ, also feeling the same, no problem.>Never had sex with spirits only had dreams, and can't see spirits or feel them.well, if you can't hear spirits or feel them at all it can be tricky, because most of the spirits in nature have no incentive to invest in your development, because you are momentarily there after all. if you manage to court one that is a different of course. but, like i said, they treat all people differently, i know someone are very welcomed in and some are not, the why's are not always clear
>>39189376Thanks for your response. She said she has urge since like 14 or earlier to let inside some kind of entity like demon or succubus. She doesn't know how exactly that should be but she says that entity should basically merge with her.She talks about that quite a lot and I decided to do a research. I'm kinda worried about her
>>39154463well, i am not deliberately talking about the serpents or their lineage because it is actually prohibited in anyway. even mentioning them as serpents is prohibited, but how else am i supposed to convey anything. but no, they are not tied to anything written somewhere or someplace to my knowing, while there might be resemblances here and there, but these resemblances are quite universal with all spirits and humans a like. while i say they hereditary, it doesn't mean they are strictly tied to me or my family, it just means they have acquired taste, and if possible they continue this trajectory as long as possible, they are symbiotes after all. if i were to die and have no offspring they have other places to migrate, it is kind of a matriarchy so to say. what comes to their wisdom, it is unparalleled to anything conventional wisdom, because they understand the long scope, in what order does anything have to be executed, it takes a lot wisdom, really. the only reason humans take this long to develop is our nervous system, otherwise we could grow to be adults in like ten years. and at every year specific things have to be addressed and done by the serpent to actuate proper trajectory or development. it is a long investment and they are not letting it go, that is kind of the downside, besides, what i can say is these catered individuals like myself will continue this path of development after my departure, elsewhere. most people don't have this and they shouldn't seek it anyways, this is a very fringe existence and reality meant to bring forth things from the past really that cannot be bothered with in ordinary lifetime. the thing is, i can't really talk about the history without their permission, i mean i can't, it is not about wanting, i physically can't. some of these things go this way
>>39155124yes i've been female around half of the time if i had to guess. there is nothing special about it, being a male or female, or there is for those who obsess and desire things because they are actively unhappy.>>39154712it is very weird probably for a lot of people, but like i always said way before, it is completely normal for me, and that is the funny thing, what does it mean besides what we imagine it meaning. in comparison to others i wasn't really excluded of anything, and they don't manifest in your ordinary life when you are in school and doing your stuff, unless you deliberately wanted them to. most of these things ceased to bother me or the obsessions and so on after they deliberately showed what human life is about, it took me long time understand the significance of energy, really, it needs to be experienced all the way with every fiber of your body to have this calmness of letting the doubt exit the body. but i don't really like to talk about things pertaining partly to imagination, because in ways everything does. i just like to keep everything simple as simple as possible>>39160160it depends a lot, if the forest has rivers or ponds, i would go to those places because they natural source continuous energy, spirits sated with continuous energies are the ones you would deem benefactory to ones own health, as they have no incentive to be opportunistic about you or your shortcomings.
>>39189506>She said she has urge since like 14 or earlier to let inside some kind of entity like demon or succubus.okay, that would explain the inclination towards this trajectory. it sounds the entity has been around there inducing whatever hocus to her cognitive judgement, i can say it is very hard to tempt something that has been going on for a long time, the fact that she is deliberately sticking to this notion of a succubus or demon and saying these things mean she has most likely been under its influence for a prolonged time. you probably can tell it during the sex, because the spirit can possess her genitals as a membrane between the two of you kind of stretching the boundaries and the membranes of the two energy layers, once the thicker layers disperse partially during sex the energy flow begins between the two of you, it can be drastically made faster by the spirit, and ordinary person cannot really say the difference there. the sex just would probably feel extremely blissful, of course if you don't have anything to compare for, lets just say you feel being sucked in to the energy, as if starting to do things outside your volition, not being in control of your own movement because the current starts to seep to your whole body, this is the danger of having a woman being possessed, their energy current is so much stronger than the males at this stage, it is very dangerous actually if the two of you don't know what you are doing, there can develop a situation where either one of you can't stop it, it is the pure form mania, everything feeling excessively good, and only good, then the discrimination leaves the body, you know. it can happen with a spirit possessing her.
>>39189641Tbh I didn't feel anything you described. But your explanation sounds worrisome for me. From what I remember she told me she has vogue but strong feeling she has to perform some kind of ritual to do that. But doesn't know what kind of. I have no idea should I stop or help her? Looks like she wants it bad but I'm afraid it might harm her
>>39189556And why do you hold on to this trajectory of connection to them? What are the symbiotic benefits for you?>most people don't have this and they shouldn't seek it anywaysthen why is it the correct path for you?> things from the past Can you make specific examples what aspects from the past you aspire to bring forth?
>>39189641Sometimes there's a strong feeling around or inside genital which advanced releasing seed straight away, is that the effect you're describing? And at other times numbness of genital for either man or woman
>>39189716most rituals revolve around loosening the connection between denser and lighter energies, meaning you will become more prone to the influence of external energies. i would constitute a real ritual having a part where you use your voice and tone in specific manner, assuming a posture in certain way, fasting at least a day, and letting your imagination become the medium for the initial contact, since perception isn't there in the beginning, most likely. to have any kind of signs from spirits you need to do breathing exercises to first ground the energies and elevate the energy accordingly. if you introduce drugs to any ritual the hocus will grow out of proportion, which is the norm in many rituals where imagination is set to become rampant. if the ritual revolves around offerings or sacrifice you are not inviting self sufficient spirits to your presence, but opportunists. they can be opportunists even without any enticements, those instances would drastically decrease nevertheless. and you are right the consequences are obscure and unpredictable in cases where the person isn't developed, if she wants to perform a ritual where a spirit melds to her energy layers she should first become energized and decide on her trajectory later, otherwise she risks falling prey to opportunistic spirit, which is practically the norm nowadays anyway. as in prey i mean, the spirit conniving its approach through whatever promises and destiny is nothing but a sale pitch, and the spirit actively trying to induce this union in somewhat obscure manner is very real concern. like i said the consequences are unpredictable unless the spirit is known and interacted with prior to any melding, afterwards the harnesses gradually shift toward the spirit and its influence creep furthermore.>Tbh I didn't feel anything you describedso the spirit isn't melded yet, anyways, or doesn't actively draw energy from those incidents, which can be held as a positive sign
>>39189716and it is her life and choices, not yours. i don't want to sound irresponsible, but if she is cognizant of the varying possibilities it is her choice. you just have to make sure she understands the consequences short and long term are unpredictable with spirits of unknown origin. nobody can vouch what will happen, anything can happen pretty much over a longer period of time. if you care for her you would insist on her being energetic long enough before pulling any trigger, this way she can be more cognizant of the spirit before any decision is set in stone. besides the spirit most likely represents itself to her multiple times anyways before actual melding takes place, it is not instantaneous or rapid, it can be like this if she decides to use for example cannabis for longer period of time. then she doesn't even need to actively "do" anything. some spirits of course can have the tendency to agree upon something which they hold the other participant accountable for, if you promise something the spirits take your word, and possible betrayal would not be taken lightly, while most spirits are not vengeful the way we think, they might just leave the system unattended and it could spiral out of control due to lacking maintenance, if a person has been developed by a spirit, it also has to be maintained by a spirit, because most of the alternations are not native to human energy system. anyway they are not probably relevant for most people, since most people operate only in denser energies (body and partially subtle body).>>39189790having access to multiple places far more enjoyable than planet earth, i can't say whether i could navigate to those places on my own, the spirits can. that is probably the only real thing i value. other things can be taught by a person (human) with adequate experience in another dimensions without the aid of a spirit. without another human one needs a spirit to spring fruition to the development, otherwise it takes a lot more effort
>>39189790>And why do you hold on to this trajectory of connection to them?because, it doesn't really matter with whom i converse or who is interacting with me, energy is the same for everyone it doesn't discriminate. there is a lot of things i don't agree with them and a lot of things i agree about. besides, my afterlife is basically been planned in a way where i just need to decide will uptake it or not, it is kind of a card in my hand how and when i play it. i've had multiple human women as partners longest one was three years. the spirits kind of want you to establish a foundation around procreation, and the person i was engaged with wasn't particularly interested in energies or development, only in pleasure and pleasure alone, and this is the intoxicating fact of subtle body, you are so high truthfully speaking there is no reason to do anything else really than lie on your back breathing the drug that is air. this same reason is why i don't really bother with anything, i am sated to the highest degree, most of the time anyways. i like conflicts because all of the conflicts derive from imagination and in rare cases dna, but you know, i believe i am this and that and have this and that perspective and this and that language to convey this and that, all of it is irrelevant, when you are sick really for day you are like "wow, i can't wait to be well again", or you use drugs "wow i can't wait to be high again". and so on, people saying human are insatiable, but that is not true, the dna can be sated, and it must be sated before it lets you to let go of things that don't matter>then why is it the correct path for you?i wouldn't know what is correct or wrong> from the past you aspire to bring forth?some of those are approximately from thousands of years ago, it is about prearrangements that are yet to come, that much i can say, which is largely what i am doing with this lifetime arranging things between the dimensions through this human vessel
>>39189998yes, numbness in general means energy flow superseding your own, with different frequency and intensity. meaning there is a current running in the system that isn't the same as your own, once your body runs the same current the two meld.>which advanced releasing seed straight away, is that the effect you're describing?yes spirits can do this if they want to digest your energy discharge right away, and yes sperm has a lot of potent subtle energy the same way feces have (some spirits consume both, as gross as it may sound). they can do a lot of things to your physical body by sending energy through your nervous system, they can make you blackout, remember wrong this, smell wrong this, say wrong things anything really that pertains to cognition and body, often through the energy centers and glands, which are particularly receptive to their inputs. they can make your spine convulse in a way where they force the fluids up your spine and then convulse the back of your head to generate little bit energy if you are unconscious, for whatever reason. they have a lot more power than we give them credit for, mostly because people are barely receptive of them, but once they turn corporeal to you, one understand their significance in new light.
>>39190406>having access to multiple places far more enjoyable than planet earthSome threads ago you talked about using salvia and datura as means to access places usually not accessible. Do you think these plants or other substances have spirits who can take you to different realms, just like your amorous spirits can?Sometimes I also feel that way about stones and metals. When my then gf, now ex girlfriend, was wearing a golden necklace with a beautiful gem and I looked at it, I felt like I was drawn into an entirely different dimension.I also feel that way about certain gems, I wonder if there are spirits living in gems and crystals who can take you to places or communicate with you in dreams.I had some experiences that support this but I was not able to reproduce them at will, maybe I am deluding myself or maybe the spirit of the gem can't be easily drawn to direct communication or help.What are your thoughts on this, also on possible spirits existing in trees and herbs?
>>39190498>Do you think these plants or other substances have spirits who can take you to different realms, just like your amorous spirits can?of course, the spirits gravitate to that from which they sprang, it is probably some quantum stuff going on, but i don't really know, they can come far away in an instant as if you had homing beacon inside you saying, oh i am now part of your system for period of time and by the way thanks for ingesting me. so, yes there is reality to this, but i cannot really attest saying the plant itself being the initial spirit however, there just happens to be a lot spirits that sow part of themselves to wherever growth takes place.>who can take you to different realms, just like your amorous spirits can?of course, most places have to be known by someone before you can access there, unless you by chance stumble there on your own, but you shouldn't really tread too much on your own because many spirits don't like trespassers.>feel that way about certain gemsgems have set energy alignment inside them, the more you are within their proximity and direct energy there with your own eyes for example, the more it reflects back this refined refracted energy, through its own energies. some of the energies don't come back some of them do, it is a purifying and amplifying process most of the time, besides, gemstones should be used under sun despite sun often damages the gem little bit, it is then refracting the purest form of energy, the full spectrum, and your body then mimics parts of those refractions, third eye especially.>What are your thoughts on this, also on possible spirits existing in trees and herbs?yes spirits may mature anywhere where is energy. that is the funny part, they inherit part of this dna to their subtle body as well, but most of them depart elsewhere to continue their lifecycle and have transformation to something else or more adaptive, as you know most things that are maturing or adolescent need attendance and help.
>>39190454i am too striving for a place where I can be more free from the allures of pleasure.but imagining freedom from all desire is also a bit scary, because what will be left to do or be in a place where you already have everything possibly forever. imagining that somehow feels like being confronted with the futileness and emptiness of my entire existence>>39190548Thanks for explaining the matter in such a way, very illuminating, especially your reflection on gemsif sun damages them how do you suggest charging them without damaging them?Moonlight? just staring at them? what do you suggest about energetically "cleansing" gems?any gems you suggest as being especially beneficial for reaching far away places both light and dark?Do you suggest the spirit of a plant or a gem can be drawn out of it and then the plant will wither away and the gem and its molecules will decompose into mud or something else?
>>39190406Thanks for advice. Could you also please recommend something to read about this? I appreciate all info you gave but for me it looks a bit vogue. Is there something more practical? Not step-by-step instruction ofc but something at least
>>39190613>but imagining freedom from all desire is also a bit scaryeven staring a wall can be infinitely interesting, it is matter of perspective or wisdom how we proceed. wisdom alone is enough to make us aware of things before our senses. when you are blissful you don't bother with desires or anything really, you are lightweight and high as kite, you could be that way for an eternity no problem.>imagining that somehow feels likeand there is your answer, you shouldn't imagine too much things because they don't exist outside your body, the energy does, alone. let me just reassure any existence outside our bodies is very pleasant, your body tortures you in many ways because that is the only way to preserve itself to the atmost maximum, through fear, you will understand conceptualization brings you the idea that you need it, when you don't.>how do you suggest charging them without damaging them?they are always charged in a way, you can prime them with different frequencies, purifying them is a different thing, say of tainted energy charge by a spirit, those are quite rare anyways>what do you suggest about energetically "cleansing" gems?any running river is adequate or a windy place>just staring at them?staring is the easiest form of directing and receiving energy>beneficial for reaching far away places both light and dark?they are irrelevant for this, and luxury items anyway, you can use them to compensate for your own slacking in certain situations but they are not a substitute for our own behavior>then the plant will wither away and the gem and its moleculessomething like that can happen, what comes to the gems that doesn't happen, gems can attract spirits no doubt about that, because they can be used cleanse the spirits energies in different occasions, whether the gem has energy enough to maintain a spirit lifeform is different concern, perhaps, but what kind of cycle is the spirit having, blink of an eye?
>>39190700>Is there something more practical?you start with the energy, everything else follows. eat clean fresh food if possible, in the least quit all processed foods, and think on your own what kinds of food people ate hundreds of years ago and why they were so much more spiritually successful. the routine should be established around your circadian rhythm, of course. the physical body or vessel has to be in good shape, so take care of it. go to sleep after sunsets and wakeup before sunrises say half an hour before, spend if possible the first two hours of sunrise outside, the two first hours of sunrays energize you the most, hence it should be your wakeup to new day. exercise in a way that you feel energetic in your body, if you have straining in your limbs or joints stretch, get rid of stiffness. figure out what kind of exercise you like to do and add them up gradually. don't eat six hours before sleep. if possible three to two hours after waking up and only once, twice is also fine but three times little bit too much. instead of feeling lightweight you start feeling heavy, which is the opposite of what you want. you want to feel lightweight whole day and energetic. this is the basic foundation for energy, the very basic. eat well and good quality, sleep well, maintain the circadian rhythm and find exercise you like to do. human body has evolved in a way where exercise purifies the body from toxins, it is very important to reduce inflammation.
>>39190700well, depends what you want to read about, spirits? most books are written by people who don't see or hear spirits lucid, so there you go, they are full of imagination. you should be concerned about energy, and energy alone. everything else is really just an attempt to convolute your brains with a mess that doesn't lead to anything significance. the point is not to be sated with answers the point is to be sated with wisdom of how it began and how it ends and everything in between, nothing less should sate you. only then the doubt will exit the body. just try to maintain the bare minimum for a month and then pickup more, don't do it too fast, the idea of change is gradual, because gradual change leads to lasting results, if you try to uptake too much while discarding old things it doesn't happen naturally, and it should, because your body takes long time to adjust to any circadian rhythm changes, at least when you are beginning to develop the more nuanced and intricate connections, things have to remain stable. you want to lead predictable and stable daily cycle then it is easier to add and remove things according to your needs. then you can start incorporating breathing exercises (or you can do them sporadically), visualizations (if you like them), using your voice to attune your cells to different frequencies and those three should be adequate for a long time along stretching and different postures. then following your energy should become practically speaking very easy, and once you get hold of the energy it happens intuitively, you don't need any book
>>39190750>>39190780Thanks. I'll see how it goes and maybe report about results
>>39190709>when you are blissful you don't bother with desires or anything really, you are lightweight and high as kite, you could be that way for an eternity no problem.I don't know it sounds somehow meaningless to me. I entered a more ascetic way of life because sensual erotic pleasures also felt meaningless to me. So I reject them.>let me just reassure any existence outside our bodies is very pleasantOne of my elder long gone teachers told me once that when dealing with the subtle spheres there can be a point where a person may want to off themselves because the subtle spheres are so much more blissful. I can understand this, as I experience the most bliss in my dreams. However he also told me that this is the greatest danger, because it would be a crime against ones earthly destiny/purpose. So again, I argue that any amount of bliss can be meaningless.>your body tortures you in many waysoh yes I am also struck with chronic issues that cause me pain and annoyance. Luckily I am good at ignoring my body and don't feel too conntected to it most of the time. I am also trying the cabbage lentil diet at the moment, but hasn't helped so much, maybe i need to get rid of the lentils. it makes me angry there is almost nothing i can eat.>t is the only way to preserve itself to the atmost maximum, through fear, you will understand conceptualization brings you the idea that you need it, when you don't.this is easy to say yet you are still here inside your body. I guess the purpose is also important to you.>tainted energy charge by a spiritI was more thinking of residual energy trash that may or may not accumulate. If you feel bad and wear a gem, doesn't some of the negative energy absorbs into the gem?>you can use them to compensate for your own slackingIf I felt attracted to a gem, but now not anymore, does that mean my slack is healed? I have some gems I became indifferent towards, but I also do not want to throw them away or sell them what would you suggest?
Why is it so hard for people to except my beliefs in Lilith without judging me? I understand she is testing me but sometimes it's demoralizing when people try and shit on me for believing in Lilith. I love her a lot but sometimes it's a struggle. It's not like I would ever force my beliefs down others throats (that goes against everything Lilith is about) I don't expect anyone to ever understand but why do I have constantly shit on over my love for her? I would never shit on others beliefs
>>39190901Have you tried not caring about peoples opinions yet?
>>39190928Yeah I try and usual I don't give a single fuck about other topics but I'm learning so much about her and this is all so new to me and hearing people shit on me bothers me a bit. I know that Lilith wants me to not give a single fuck but sometimes it's hard. I believe as time grows I'll learn to accept and love everyone including thoses who hate me for my beliefs.
>>39190997why do you want to accept and love everyone? sounds unhealthy to me, like some neurotic jesus BS
>>39191026I agree but desu I just don't have any more room in my heart for hatred. It's only made me a worse person. It's time for me to change things up and try a different approach. That doesn't mean I won't stand up for myself or anything. I just can't bring myself have that negativity anymore. There's a lot of important people in my life and I need to have a balance so I can love them all. Hate will just take up spac3
>>39191071hatred? you know you can also just be indifferent. no need to hate anyone.
>>39190548In regards to multiple consorts, say they are both serpent but from different clans (I assume all urban environment are serpent), would they really battle each other to switch you on their specific paths? Don't they work in conjunction, have a hivemind network? One wants me to get energy through mundane ways, another through spiritual, one is female the other is male. I believe they are family if not the same being larping back and forth.
>>39190497>smell wrong thisThis was common for me, especially with others a female entity would send smells to others to manipulate them, that someone or something smells this or that>>39190346>most rituals revolve around loosening the connection between denser and lighter energiesAre there rituals that genuinely work for protection against attackers or is it all s larp or very temporary since attackers quickly recalibrate
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>>39190750>the two first hours of sunrays energize you the mostI live in city where they release chemtrails that block the sun. Geo-engineering, they're not hiding this, and the skies are always murky gray. Relevant question but what kind of spirits/serpents follow or control the darkest humans, i.e black market, cartel, mafia, corrupt politicians, those who traffick, kill, sacrifice people and animals, those who destroy the planet and torture beings, etc.
>>39190750>human body has evolved in a way where exercise purifies the body from toxinsCan you expand on this? Evolved? As opposed to what? How does bioelectricity play in this?
