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Share everything you have on Saturn.
Books and Videos mainly but images are also welcome.

Videos:
Remembering the End of the World (Full Documentary)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oophJNlP-fk

666 & The Cult of Saturn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGVsQH_ju6Q

The Black Cube Energy Matrix Saturn / Chaos Matter / Cosmic Womb (The Demiurge's Saṃsāra Cycle)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpVSWTOIFwo&t=865s

David Icke - Saturn Isn't What You Think It Is Either - Occult Religious Pagan Symbolism
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFBYRO7JMyM

Escape the Black Cube - Nothing is More Important
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKr1LOg09UQ

How Saturn creates material reality. What is the black cube, is Saturn Satan?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oatIELkxgLk&t=561s

This whole channel has some good stuff.
https://www.youtube.com/@SUNOFSATURN/videos

The Black Cube Movements Parts 1&2
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/xr94of
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/xr9loz
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self bump.....
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>>39232782
can't do that unless it's a different ip
here you go pal
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>>39232633

To give you a bump . . . Know anything about these sort of tendrils fren ?

>give the image of your op
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>>39232633
Read this thread:

........ https://x.com/elitefeat/status/1742924942151438589

Keep in mind that both Christians and atheists do not like what I have to say.

Also, here's a supplementary post that contains some important details:

........ https://x.com/elitefeat/status/1799553063390154856
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>>39233464
"Worship Me or Your Blood will be In a Robe I wear"
-Nazerth of Temple of Jeruselum
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Minecraft looking ahhh Crucifixion
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>>39232633
It seems those that follow the dark path would never want the whole world to follow the dark path as things would get too chaotic and there would be less people to take advantage of. But they seem to be going that way and killing off those that follow the light. If that happens they will be forced to cannibalize themselves and eat their own children. Just like Saturn. As above, so below.
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>>39233506

Can you elaborate more fren?
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penis ahhhh looking crucifixion....

nah im from jupiter as I am a sagittarius and it looks fucking hellish

especially since he didnt rape anyone and was literally son of God.

he'll be dying in my head for awhile thanks.
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>>39232633
Gay demon worship. avoid.
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Obelisks like pic related were used to commemorate Amun-Ra in ancient times. The opposite, or an inversion of life-giving Ra (sun) was thought to be the constrainer, Saturn, "the winter sun".
Now, look at that picture again, and think if you've seen an inverted version of it somewhere. Maybe as a piece of clothing?
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>>39232633
Eh, I'm bored so why not. There are some interesting little Easter eggs that mirror some of this stuff in the Tarot and it's traditional + Qabalistic correspondences. Let's take "The World", for example. In Thoth, its "The Universe"; "The great one of the night of time". It's planetary attribute is, as one could probably guess from the fact that I'm even posting this here, Saturn. Each card is also attributed a path on the Tree of Life, and the one for "The World" is between Yesod, the foundation, associated with the moon and the astral, and Malkuth, the sphere of the material world and Earth. Saturn is also associated with the sephira of Binah, the final sphere of the supernal triad across the Gulf of the Abyss from the bottom 7 (8) spheres of the tree. Saturn and Binah also have associations with the Black Sun and there are a few deities associated with Saturn where the blackness, the alchemical Nigredo, carries over if anyone is interested in all of that. I don't know how much of that isn't any of the stuffed linked but there is much to be had in old lore for those with a mind to dig for it. Don't open doors unless prepared for them to remain open, however.
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>>39234871
>Now, look at that picture again, and think if you've seen an inverted version of it somewhere.
Inverted how? No clothing is coming to mind either.
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>>39235112
Upside down
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>>39235553

A neck tie silly billy
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>>39235573
>Neck tie
You mean a decorative noose?
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>>39235656
I preffer the word leash, but similar function yes
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Cant have a saturnian thread without a saturnian doll, so here it is.
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Feels so good to side with le evil saturnian cabal.
Take your jab, anon.
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>>39233464
That is from a psyop graph but to tell you about the checkerboard it's essentially base reality, it also represents matter and anti matter.

The tendrils are multi dimensional creatures within these planes of existence, lovecraft also made his multi dimensionals squid and tentacle like.
>picrel
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>>39233530
The Demiurge is Saturn
>picrel
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>>39233558
Not really, darkness provides a necessary matrix for the light to exist in and they don't want to push others over to their side.

Their are bound to matter/materialist and want to eternally trap the human spark with transhumanist practices such as cybernetics.

Like Ahriman.
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>>39235573
>>39235702
>>39235656
The noose of the apprentice.
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>>39236230
I think you mean secular, not saturnian.
The cabal speaks of no gods, only their disgrace.
Fervent and illogical beliefs are to be disregarded, and so they hide cloaked in their midst.
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>>39234871
Obelisks are the missing phalus of Osiris and are also sun monuments to Ra, but Ra or the Sun is also Saturn.

Thelema's Worship of Horus is also Saturn Worship.

The letter i also came from the obelisk, the point atop the i is the sun, see picrel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKnCZFSYeZ0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oophJNlP-fk
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>>39236493
It's not about what they want, it's about what they do. The balance is ever shifting, a pendulum set forth by our actions. When the truth of evil is hidden in fears, of our future, of our past, of our nature, then evil actions flourish. What that anon said is true. After the cannibalization new light is born and the order is again overturned.
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>>39236554
They only do what they want tho?

The balance is never shifting, they have been in control for millenia and have found karmic loopholes, many of them today still die unpunished.

Evil flourishes due to ignorance, it is the sole cause of evil, and even in the cannibalization of their own one still arrives on top and subjugates the others, they won't self destruct that way, as a matter of fact they will emerge stronger as the weak will be filtered out while the strongest remain.

The internet is giving way to the light however and many have awakened, however with rumors of a new war looming and the unstable geopolitical climate of today it's possible they use said war as a pretext to shut off the net.
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>>39236710
>They only do what they want tho?
Maybe they convince themselves that, but no. Everyone is subject to internal and external forces that separate their actions from their desires. It's the shifting of those forces that ultimately changes the balance, and it's an accumulation.

>The balance is never shifting, they have been in control for millenia
Name one "they" that has remained unchanged for a millennia. The issue at hand isn't who has been in power. Good and evil are not so easy to define.

We agree regarding ignorance, though I was careful to say what ignorance is an issue. Not all ignorance leads to evil, just as not all knowledge leads to good.
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>>39236745
I do believe they are subject to internal and external forces, but keep in mind (no pun intended) that the mind is a doer and also affects reality.

The forces you mention influence emotion which in theory could affect decision/desire, but they aren't blindly influenced by them, in fact they harness said forces according to their creative will (consciousness) and manipulate reality and others with them.

This however subjects them to Karma/Cause and Effect, so they always need to counterweigh their action in order to not be obliterated by their own doing (this is why the Elite finance charity and philantropy on top of their tyranny, to cultivate a good karma balance).

>Name one "they" that has remained unchanged for a millennia.
>picrel
The Phoenicians/Carthaginians never disappeared, their ancient bloodlines have been preserved through the ages and those in power today belong to them.
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>>39236835
If you know you know.
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>>39236835
>they aren't blindly influenced by them
That's exactly the point I was making. Context is shaped in a collaborative manner, it cannot be controlled (though it has never stopped people from trying). Knowledge and ignorance are themselves forces, and gate keepers to other forces, but trying to control them fails because of the influences of karma.

>picrel
Their beliefs and actions change every decade, as they must to stay afloat in the swells of context. Their alignment with good and evil changes just the same.

Do not mistake power and control with evil.
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how come no one is talking about Saturn and Neptune conjunction thats about to happen soon?
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>>39236870
>Do not mistake power and control with evil.
Those are inherently evil, control over others, subjugation, divison into different classes plus all the blood needed to maintain it all.

If you don't maintain it someone else will strike you down and do it for you, it's what the Sword of Damocles is all about.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damocles

The cosmos is inter connected and harmonious (even quantum entaglement proves this), all knowledge is already pre existent (this is why we discover mathematical theorems instead of invent them, we just re-discover what is already there), upon birth we are born with feelings an intuition that is in a lot of ways more inteligent than the conscious ego, ignorance is fostered in our industrial society since birth through institutions.

Not sure if i would call them forces they more like universal concepts, by forces i mean planetary energies (planets have effects on moods, it's why we call insane people Luna-tics), and certain planetary conjunctions have a collective effect on humanity.

The El-ites have controlled these forces through ritual, scientific principle and even stones (it's where the ideas of magic rings come from, (agrippa speaks about this in his 3 books of occult philosophy) everything has a soul in this universe and yes that includes stones (this is also mentioned by Kabbalists in the Etz Chaim and the ancient priests also used stones on their breastplates). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Priestly_breastplate

They cannot escape Karma but they can loophole around it with other natural laws.

The Satanism/Saturnism they follow is inherently materialist (see all the rap and consumerist/corporate culture on our society) hence Saturn is their god, Saturn was also a financial god in Roman Times.

Their also also tighly knit and preserve multi milleanial year old ideas through fraternities, they don't change very decade, in fact they haven't changed in many thousands of years.
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>>39237193
>Those are inherently evil
Is it is evil that you have power and control over your mind and body? Is it evil that you have power and control over things you create, like art, or a business? Is it evil to enforce morals and protect the innocent?

No,of course not. There is nothing in this world that is inherently evil because evil is a relationship. It isn't present in things, it's present in how all things relate to each other. As context shifts so does the expression of evil in things like power.
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>>39237193
>excuse some grammar mistakes
As for good and evil those are subjective dualities to them, more realistically they should be called positive or negative polarities (pure energy has no polarity, duality is a fundamentally materialist idea) and within this realm there is positive light within it's institutions all has been compromised.

>>39237139
That will be heavy, a time of uncertainty.
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>>39237234
>pure energy has no polarity
Of course it does, it exists as a spectrum of power with a pole on either side.
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>>39237229
What is the mind and body if not a machine and an expression of the universal mind? You think you have control over them yet all rots away in due time.

As for what you create, you are only taking pre existing assets and re assembling them in your own strand and limited vision, a vision governed by limited sensory organs than can only percept a small part of the visible light spectrum.

What is morality if not some arbitrary set of rules generated by society to control others (in other words another form of power an control)?

>>39237238
>picrel
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>>39237268
>>39237229
Cont.
Ignorance is the root of all evil, humanity unaware of it's potential is stuck in limited polarity and futile material bound ideologies which then leads to death on all fields through wars and further division.

People should meditate on the impermanent and holographic nature of reality further to realize that through a millenia of conflict not once have they united under one banner, however those in power today want to unite the world under a violent banner of tyranny, consumerism and materialism instead of one of true harmony.

In this case "good" is harmony or resonance with the universal mind instead of an indulgence in it's holographic illusions (which is the case of the current El-ites who cannot let go of materialism).

However all is not without hope, for these things were also put in place to refine us, they are correct in the sense that evil is subjective for there is no such thing, you can always learn from mistakes and get up after a fall.
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>>39237268
> You think you have control over them yet all rots away in due time.
Irrelevant. You don't have total control over everything in your mind and body but I bet you're grateful for that "evil" control you do have.

>What is morality if not some arbitrary set of rules generated by society
It's the opposite of that. If morality were arbitrary we wouldn't see so much overlap between cultures. Interpretation is arbitrary, moral truths change with context, but morality is a system by which we weigh the virtue of actions. No system is always right, but some are useful.

>>39237268
Oh, you meant the limited definition we use to describe magnetic fields. Obviously. Pure energy still has polarity though, just not magnetic polarity. Every spectrum as two poles.
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>>39237481
>Irrelevant, You don't have total control over everything in your mind and body but I bet you're grateful for that "evil" control you do have.
How is it irrelevant? As for the evil control i do have, now that would be a question of blissful ignorance or misreable knowledge, would i rather live in a happy illusion of control where i believe to be in control of certain aspects or in a miserable state where i see things in the grander scale.

>It's the opposite of that, If morality were arbitrary we wouldn't see so much overlap between cultures, Interpretation is arbitrary, moral truths change with context, but morality is a system by which we weigh the virtue of actions, No system is always right, but some are useful.
The overlap between cultures is caused by their interpretation which is not arbitrary actually, there is a group of universal truths which were painted over by different cultures into what we know today as religion, they all speak of the same thing but painted it in their way, it's not random.

As i've said intuition and feelings are more intelligent than the conscious ego because the cosmos is inherently chaotic (a form of order beyond our perception) and fractal so one should jump into the madness with those instead of trying to making sense of it all (which would lead to insanity).

Culture is arbitrary sure as it is based on their limited senses but interpretation is heavily influenced by intuition and feelings which isn't.

>Every spectrum as two poles.
Every human spectrum that is, what we know and registered is also limited by perception, the spectrum goes in all directions actually, like the chaos star.
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>>39237585
messed up picrel lol
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>>39237585
>How is it irrelevant?
The argument is that control is not inherently evil. You countered it by saying control is an illusion, but that has no baring on it being good or evil. It's also false, because only total control is an illusion.

Now you are creating a false dichotomy, again divorced from the issue at hand. The question isn't whether or not you would be happier not knowing you have control. The question is if it is evil that you can choose to breathe manually. Is it evil that you can choose to take a bath. Is it evil that you can talk to me online? Or, perhaps, control is just the ability to enact desired change, and evil is something that exists in the changes you choose.

>The overlap between cultures is caused by their interpretation which is not arbitrary actually
Interpretation is always subjective, and subjectivity leads to arbitrary decisions. For instance when cultures created color systems (which are also different but overlap) we chose different colors that were important to our specific cultures/environments. We gave them different names. We associated them with different things. All of this was done arbitrarily because our perceptions were subjective.

>As i've said intuition and feelings are more intelligent than the conscious ego
The ego has no intelligence, it is a perspective. Intuition is useless without the intellect, but the intellect can accomplish countless things without intuition.

>>39237585
>Every human spectrum that is
No, every spectrum. It's a consequence of the definition we created. It exists in a static context that is absolute because it describes a logical relationship.
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>>39237718
Control is inherently evil, control is an illusion yes but the point of an illusion is to decieve which is inherently negative.

>The question is if it is evil that you can choose to breathe manually
I woul say yes, you already breathe subconsciously at your body's natural pace, when we take control of that it usually ends up harming the body and interrupting it's natural "clock" (yes even when needed in a life saving situation).

>Is it evil that you can choose to take a bath.
If the bath is the chemical water we have then yes, tribes that live in dense natures without our resources are even happier than us that way.
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2024/feb/05/isolated-indigenous-people-as-happy-as-wealthy-western-peers-study

>Is it evil that you can talk to me online?
Considering the "Anonymous" nature of imageboards i'd say yes.

>Desired change
Now what is said desire fueled by? In fact what even is desire? And are you really changing anything in the grand scheme?

Evil is ever present in all the changes you choose, whether you percieve them as positive or not, just by observing the thing we are already messing with their state according to quantum physics, which can then cascade into larger things without our knowledge, think of it as a combinatin of quantum entanglement, the quantum observer and the butterfly effect.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butterfly_effect
https://www.aaas.org/taxonomy/term/10/quantum-mechanics-and-consciousness-connection

>For instance when cultures created color systems (which are also different but overlap) we chose different colors that were important to our specific cultures/environments.
Yet we all chose colors and associated them with thing, it's as if our intuition and feelings called to associate colors with things regardless of environment, all in sync.

Intuition does not need intellect, it needs feeling.
The intellect can acomplish much, but feeling can acomplish everything.
>picrel
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>>39237871
Cont.
>once again grammar issues as english isn't my primary language

Emotion comes from the Endocrine system and is regulated by our brain of course, a brain divided into a creative and a rational hemisphere.

Going full intellect will lead you to insanity as the universe operates in an order beyond our 3 dimensional reason, ineffable in other words.

Feelings are more in line with the "chaotic" synchronicical (not sure if it's the right word) nature of our universe.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synchronicity

intellect is just a bonus to these existing features, an amplifier.

A being devout of any meaningful intellect can still manufacture incredibly complex things out of feeling that even the most intellectual minds struggle to create, take for example this fish that makes this incredibly complex patter out of love for a potential mate, purely driven by feelings.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B91tozyQs9M
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>>39237871
>I woul say yes
Then you are a fool who has yet to grain the benefits of meditation.

>If the...
Irrelevant. By setting a condition, effectively choosing the change that takes place, you are actually supporting my argument. It's not the control that is good or evil.

>Now what is said desire fueled by?
All desire comes from love, but we fear the absence of what we love, we hate what supports our fears, and we lust for what fights our hate. So it is that desire can be pure or it can be lustful.

>And are you really changing anything in the grand scheme?
Irrelevant. You seem obsessed with total control. The lust for control is evil my friend, be careful.

>Evil is ever present in all the changes you choose
Oh, and how is evil present in choosing to forgive someone who deserves it? Yes all things are connected, evil things can follow despite your intentions, but again that is a matter of control. If you think that means all things are evil then you are lying to yourself about how much control you have.

>all in sync.
No, they aren't. That's the point. For instance originally the Japanese didn't even have a word for the color green. They treated blue and green as the same color. They called it the nature color. This is an arbitrary decision that led to a unique color system different from any other. So, despite colors existing in a universal sense, our perceptions of them have led to subjectivity and contradictory systems. Morality is much the same.

>Intuition does not need intellect
It does. The intellect is the process of breaking down a problem into its core elements, then using them to build a model that provides useful information for your problem. Intuition is the feeling of those models. Wisdom is the integration of them.
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Part 1
>benefits of meditation
Meditation underclocks your brain into one idea which is actually detrimental (this is why ADHD is a superpower, because it allows you to process many threads of information).

Yes i did support meditation on impermanence and the holographic nature of reality but meditation should not be a regular practice as it would become detrimental.

>Irrelevant, By setting a condition, effectively choosing the change that takes place, you are actually supporting my argument.
I added the if because i thought some conditions would be different but after futher contemplation i still believe yes because most of these ideas are customs imposed by institutions that go against natural instincts, think cutting your nails instead biting them naturally.
Many tribes live within these parameters and they are statistically happier than industrial societies.

>All desire comes from love
There are 2 types of desire, a desire that arises from ignorance and delusion which is called taṇhā (craving) by the Buddhists and a desire that arises from wisdom and intelligence.

>but we fear the absence of what we love
love is a desire and also creates new attachments along with new kinds of suffering.

>Irrelevant, You seem obsessed with total control, The lust for control is evil my friend, be careful.
I don't seek total control of all as that is physically impossible due to the fractal nature of everything, but i do seek to learn as much as i can to make some sense (if not full sense) of the fractal nonsense.
>picrel

>how is evil present in choosing to forgive someone who deserves it
What are your criteria for deserving? I would go Gnostic in saying all the material is evil yes, we live in a perishable body made up of cells (like prison cells) that trap our divine light/spark in our DNA (our DNA emits bio photos which are our light) while being stuck in a plane of density with no exit (contained by the firmament/van allen radiation belts).
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>>39238007
>>39238099
Part 2
>For instance originally the Japanese didn't even have a word for the color green, They treated blue and green as the same color, They called it the nature color.
Yet they consciously chose to associate colors with a meaning, it's not about the meaning of the colors but the fact that humans instinctively associated colors with things using feeling and intuition alone.

>The intellect is the process of breaking down a problem into its core elements, then using them to build a model that provides useful information for your problem.
The intellect is objective in nature, it breaks down what it sees/percieves into core elements then re-assembles them to fit a working model within this percievable plane. Feeling acts beyond the percievable/holographic.
>picrel
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>>39238099
>corrections
>further contemplation
>bio photons
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>>39238099
>Meditation underclocks your brain
No. There are many types of meditation. Each has its own use. People recommend you start with mindfulness, because it helps most people and shows where you are lacking, but people with ADHD struggle with mindfulness to such a degree that practicing can hurt them. Ultimately though, all meditation is centered on the breath. We get the word spirit from breath for this reason. Having control over our breath is one of the ways we have control over our emotions and state of mind in general. Is it evil to have control over your emotions? No, of course not. It's a responsibility, and neglecting responsibility can be evil.

>I added the if because i thought some conditions
You added it because otherwise you have no way to justify your claim that it's evil. You just don't want to admit I'm right.

>There are 2 types of desire
Yes, we agree there. Buddhists have no problem with desire rooted in love, only craving, ie desired rooted in fear. In the west we call this lust.

>love is a desire and also creates new attachments along with new kinds of suffering.
Not according to any religion I'm familiar with. A buddhist will tell you that love is essential for letting go of tanha. A christian will tell you that love is essential for letting go of lust. This is because ultimately the fear lust is rooted in can be overcome by discovering the love that spawned it. This is the ignorance that must be lifted.

>What are your criteria for deserving?
All that are applicable. That's the catch that makes it work, because while nothing in this world is always good or always evil, that is because the context of what is deserved is always in flux, and good and evil are a matter of justice.

>it's not about the meaning of the colors
Oh, so it's not about the meaning of what is good or evil, just that they exist? Give me a break. The point is that even if a universal morality exists we won't agree on it.
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>because it helps most people and shows where you are lacking
I am aware of it's effects on brainwaves but people are unaware that is the pineal working on the rest.

>Ultimately though, all meditation is centered on the breath
The breath influences the heart and blood flow, the heart is the seat of the soul or our spark/flame, it's what the flaming heart of Christianity means.

>Is it evil to have control over your emotions?
Control is a form of repression so yes, if humanity didn't repress itself imagine how much life would they bring to the earth and how much would change, our industrial society is so depressed and stale/mute due to their repression of nature and the natural to fit in with their arbitrary norms an moralities.

If people let their emotions rip everything would get balanced naturally, experiments showed mice can hold out longer in life threatning situations out sheer emotion and hope.
https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-The-%E2%80%9CHope%E2%80%9D-Experiment-Harvard-University

>You added it because otherwise you have no way to justify your claim that it's evil. You just don't want to admit I'm right.
Nah it's still evil, we were already born with instincts to take care of ourselves and populations without these still live happier, taking that away is evil.

>Buddhists have no problem with desire rooted in love.
Love is still a desire which is kind of ironic, like the paradox of how they crave to be free of desires but that in of itself is a desire to be free of desires.

>Not according to any religion I'm familiar with.
Love naturally generates attachments which will turn into suffering when impermanence takes it's course in taking them away.

>All that are applicable, That's the catch that makes it work, because while nothing in this world is always good or always evil, that is because the context of what is deserved is always in flux, and good and evil are a matter of justice.
So arbitrary like i said.
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>>39238166
>>39238282
Cont.
>Oh, so it's not about the meaning of what is good or evil, just that they exist, Give me a break, The point is that even if a universal morality exists we won't agree on it.
It also still is in a way, interpretations are not arbitrary as i said, the japanese associated blue and green with nature and it's qualities as did other cultures, qualities which are inherently harmonious or "good" if you will.
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>>39238282
this is you two
https://youtu.be/EnhMKDozogc?si=J0KiRhhe6PT66mU8
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>>39238304
nice tracking link and sigil bruv
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>>39238304
whoops tattoo upside down
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>>39238313
shhh he's a glowie
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>>39238337
still not clicking that shit bruv
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>>39238282
>if humanity didn't repress itself imagine how much life would they bring to the earth
Humanity spends a lot more effort repressing negative emotions than positive ones. If we stopped we would see more death, not more life.

>If people let their emotions rip everything would get balanced naturally
History stands to disagree. Instead what happens is people become hyper polarized and violent.

>taking that away is evil.
Oh, so then you agree with me after all. We have control to care for ourselves, and taking away that control would be evil. Therefor, control is not inherently evil. Nice job.

>like the paradox of how they crave to be free of desires but that in of itself is a desire to be free of desires.
I'm surprised you don't know that's a mistranslation. You used the proper words earlier. The word they use isn't desire and doesn't mean the same thing as desire. Craving is closer in meaning. Lust is the closest, but only if you divorce it from the recent sexual connotations that Puritans added.

There is no paradox in desiring to remove your cravings/lust if that desire isn't itself a craving/lust. When Buddhists talk about this its a way of telling people to confront their motivations and act with the right spirit.

>Love naturally generates attachments
No, love is an expression of what attaches us to ourselves. We love food because it's a part of us. When we lust for food it's different.

>>39238296
There is no other culture that created a single word for blue and green and called it the nature color. Just because a quality can be observed doesn't mean people see it, choose to value it, or choose to share it. Just because something isn't totally arbitrary doesn't mean it isn't arbitrary.
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>>39238343
Imagine getting payed to monitor shitposts and believing they are "improving" national security.
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>>39238353
Part 1.
>Humanity spends a lot more effort repressing negative emotions than positive ones, If we stopped we would see more death, not more life.
Repressing a negative emotion is like a boiler cooker, you either let the steam out in small bursts that heal later or let it out in one huge burst that kills you, the larger the burst the more damaging.

And by life i mean soul, emotion, vividness, altough i disagree with many of Darwin's ideas i do believe a form of natural selection would take place that would heal any damage/restore any disorder caused in the process.

>History stands to disagree. Instead what happens is people become hyper polarized and violent.
Who writes history? Divide and conquer is one of the main tools of opression today because the El-ites know the power and potential of raw emotion, people are divided through lower emotional states about trivial topics (religion v religion, race v race, sex v sex etc.....)

People naturally don't become hyper polarized and violent, all revolts and conflicts are orchestrated and incited by higher powers who manipulate the masses through their base emotions. (look at the recent UK situation, one racially motivated false flag and the country went in flames).

>Oh, so then you agree with me after all, We have control to care for ourselves, and taking away that control would be evil, Therefor, control is not inherently evil, Nice job.
Who said taking care of yourself is about control, those subconscious instincts that we are programmed with before conception, taking control of those is forcing an unnatural practice over that such as the ones our institutions impose.

>I'm surprised you don't know that's a mistranslation, You used the proper words earlier, The word they use isn't desire and doesn't mean the same thing as desire, Craving is closer in meaning, Lust is the closest, but only if you divorce it from the recent sexual connotations that Puritans added.
Craving and Lust literally mean desire.
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>>39238364
internal affairs contractor. Too many co workers looking for /b/enefits if you catch my drift.

>>39238347
There Nair Bear Hair
What?
There Nair Bear hair
There’re Neighbors here?
There nair bear hair
Yes. I am your neighbor. This is an apartment complex
No I’m saying that would be really funny
What?
There nair bear hair because it sounds funny
I don’t understand why There’re neighbors here said like that is funny. Is this a rascist thing? Are you substituting neighbor for the n-word
I’m not saying neighbor I’m saying there nair bear hair
I don’t see how saying it with weird accent makes it any less racist which is kinda messed up because I like to substitute neighbor for the n word when I sing along to rap songs so making it weird by integrating that into the slur is really kind of fucking up my day. Could you stop saying that?
There nair bear hair?
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>>39238442
I'm not advocating for repressing emotions though, you added that negative connotation. Controlling your emotions is different. Like anything it can be done for or good or bad. Controlling your emotions doesn't necessarily lead to a boiling point. To the contrary, not controlling your emotions leads to more frequent outbursts, many of which are later regretted.

>Who writes history?
Anyone who lives to tell the tale. I especially appreciate third person historical accounts, like when an uninvolved nation discusses an ongoing war.

>all revolts and conflicts are orchestrated and incited by higher powers
As someone who has started a revolt, I can tell you that's false.

>taking control of those is forcing an unnatural practice
It's our instinct to seek control, so not taking control would be an unnatural practice

>Craving and Lust literally mean desire.
They don't. A desire is just wanting something. A craving/lust is wanting something obsessively. The obsession is of course rooted in fear. Still, if you want to understand Buddhists, work with their lingo and you won't run into fake paradoxes.
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>>39238353
>>39238442
Part 2.
>There is no paradox in desiring to remove your cravings/lust if that desire isn't itself a craving/lust, When Buddhists talk about this its a way of telling people to confront their motivations and act with the right spirit.
It is by definition a desire because craving/lust are literally desires by definition.

>No, love is an expression of what attaches us to ourselves. We love food because it's a part of us. When we lust for food it's different.
When you love something you are not attached to yourself, you are attached to it because said thing resonates with a quality/sense within you.

>There is no other culture that created a single word for blue and green and called it the nature color.
They did tho? And apart from that they also associated said colors with nature
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue
"In some languages, including old Chinese, Thai, old Japanese, and Vietnamese, the same word can mean either blue or green.[11] The Chinese character 青 (pronounced qīng in Mandarin, ao in Japanese, and thanh in Sino-Vietnamese) has a meaning that covers both blue and green; blue and green are traditionally considered shades of "青". In more contemporary terms, they are 藍 (lán, in Mandarin) and 綠 (lǜ, in Mandarin) respectively."

"For example, in Vietnamese, the colour of both tree leaves and the sky is xanh."

"In Lakota, the word tȟó is used for both blue and green, the two colours not being distinguished in older Lakota"
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>>39238488
Definitions are subjective. No two words mean exactly the same thing. No single word means exactly the same thing in two different people's minds. But, if you want to use definitions, I can assure you that desire, craving, and lust all have unique definitions.

>you are attached to it because said thing resonates with a quality/sense within you
Right, because it's a part of you. Like I said, it's an attachment to yourself.

>>39238488
I hate to break it to you, but your research pales in comparison to my own on this subject. I'm a linguist, and I specialize in eastern Asian languages. Yes, there are cultural connections that came about from communication/trade between those geographically close groups. My point stands that only one of them used the same word for blue and green and called it the nature color.
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>>39238484
>Controlling your emotions is different.
It isn't, just a more moderate form of repression that still yields the same results but lighter.

Which is more dangerous? Small bursts of emotion or one big one, it's the big ones you regret and not the small ones that can be healed later.

Not controlling emotion leads to a struggle with everything as an unstopable force until you hit the immovable object that is the reality, this hit develops into an internal struggle that tempers you into a better self, you will be humbled by reality whether you like it or not.

>Anyone who lives to tell the tale.
Then he who lives is killed by external powers and his account distorted to fit their respective narrative.

> I especially appreciate third person historical accounts, like when an uninvolved nation discusses an ongoing war.
Those aren't that faithful, you can discern the objectively "good" side in any conflict by looking at the evidence presented by both parties and filtering objective truths from the mud of each's propaganda, he who has more truths in the end is right.

But with the advent of social media and tech it's getting harder to discern truths as a lot is still hidden behind closed doors or heavy veils of propaganda.

>As someone who has started-
I am not interested in your details regarding that nor am i interested in those activities but i can assure you that it's possible to trace the supplies or motivations you used to some higher power (economic or political).

>It's our instinct to seek control, so not taking control would be an unnatural practice
If you are a control freak that is.

>They don't, A desire is just wanting something, A craving/lust is wanting something obsessively.
By definition a desire is a strong feeling of wanting to have something, wanting something obsessively still falls under that.
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>>39238521
>No single word means exactly the same thing in two different people's minds.
Words no, concepts and archetypes yes.
Take for example symbol, the word Sun is different in every language but every culture knows this symbol as The Sun.

>Right, because it's a part of you. Like I said, it's an attachment to yourself.
Those things are within you but are not you, in the same way horrible intrusive thoughts exist in everyone's minds but don't define their self/ego.

>I hate to break it to you, but your research pales in comparison to my own on this subject. I'm a linguist, and I specialize in eastern Asian languages, Yes, there are cultural connections that came about from communication/trade between those geographically close groups, My point stands that only one of them used the same word for blue and green and called it the nature color.
They weren't the only ones to associate blue and green with nature tho? As a unifying word for both sure they were one of the only ones appart from the other asian countries mentioned but as a whole many nations have associated the colors of blue and green respectively with nature or natural phenomena.

From the blue sky Nuit of Ancient Egypt to the famous Islamic Green.
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>>39238608
>when i said this symbol as the sun i meant to type an emoji but since that failed have a picrel.
The word is different but this archetype/symbol is universal.
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>>39233530
That would be a cool tatoo.
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The demiurgue actually have the head of a duck, instead of a lion. Here you can see him on the left, and Sophia (depicted as a ostrich) on the right.
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>>39239238
Correction: Sophia is on the left, Demiurgue on the right.
I'm falling asleep.
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>>39239238
>>39239250
The Demiurge is Saturn see >>39236485

And on the left that looks more like a Rooster than a duck. (Abraxas Maybe?)
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>>39242876
That's a ostrich, it have long legs.
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>>39239238
whats the signficance of a duck?
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>>39232633
the cross can be used to entrap or to liberate.
>>39236710
>shut off the net
then start data hoarding, the internet is a web of computers, not a centralized network.
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>>39243561
I'm still trying to discover it.
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>>39243637
don’t know if theres any connections but Ehecatl-Quetzalcoatl was depicted with a duck face
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>>39243781
there’s an Egyptian god depicted by ducks in hieroglyphs, trying to find it
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>>39243604
You forget the under sea internet cables, during the breakout of a war there is a risk some submarine takes them out.

As for data hoarding an EMP from a nuke would fry it all.



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