Tell me wise people of /x/.Is there a rational reason of why, evildoers and more specifically the liars branch,ALWAYS gets fucking away with everything without any sort of punishment/consequences for their actions even with evidence on the table,meanwhile good hearted people never gets justice but instead,are always seen like garbage fools?I need a fucking reasonable answer, it's not fucking fair, seriously. Why there's no justice whatsoever
>>39243478were all just apescompeting in king of the hill
I am the liar
>>39243478Who is doing the justice anon?It isn't you.Nobody is.Tale of laziness since time immemorial.
>>39243478Because this Earth is governed by supernatural evil known as Satan, who enforces his malice and will upon it. However, no evil gets away for what they do, fallen angelic, demonic or human but a short while.Eternity is governed by God and His Love and Righteousness. Through Jesus, we can be on the winning side who has never known defeat. It is an encouraging thought.
>>39243478Because the universe doesn't care. There is no high harbinger of justice, no scale ever-balanced. It is up to us to do as we believe is right.
>>39243478What you say isn't true.Simply karmic laws and other types don't work as pop culture explains them.
Hivemind, kinda. Just made a thread about it >>39242805But going deeper about it, you are God, you are your only judge and executioner. That's why psychopaths are usually so successful, they don't judge themselves, they don't experience guilt, remorse or any of that. They just focus on what they want and that's it. You don't have to become evil, just mentally discipline yourself so that your attention gets focused on what you want instead of what you don't. Putting it in more positive terms, is basically faith in the bible sense, God inside of you is bigger than the apparent material world outside of you, so don't let the world make you waver.
>>39243478Pragmatically: When the only firefighter in town gets caught off guard and trapped in a burning building, he's fucked. The density of people who actively care about truth, justice, etc. is too low and they're too disconnected.Today's Favourite Speculative Narrative: This realm is far from the source-consciousness and so highly mechanistic relative to higher planes of existence. The source-consciousness has a very limited ability to manipulate this place and make things right when they go wrong at the present time. So it's mostly up to humanity to figure out how to make life better and in many ways we are far from the ideal. Also, "here there be dragons," rogue spirits competing for dominance of the realm that often deliberately make things worse for sentient beings in their effort to siphon off life force and strengthen themselves.Why then have we incarnated here? Well, I don't remember. Maybe we got trapped or maybe we're the vanguard of the source-consciousness conquering new territories in the space of all possible structures. Either way I'd like to go home and relax for a few centuries when this life is over.
>>39243502> Tale of laziness since time immemorialThe Bible tells all.Agape-Love is God’s Essence and the way Eternal beings have to live to avoid an eternity of narcissistic milieu misery.Nobody cares, that’s why.All people care about is their money — mon-eye.Mammon won in a route.Details beyond the Bible — the Money Power are bloodline narcissists competing to be God’s Most Fit Bloodline by financing Biblical prophecy against our sorry, uncaring *sses.God is showing us that a lack of Agape leads to injustice so we learn to repent of our own chit and toward Agape.
>>39243478I don't know why this isn't understood by more people.It's because this world came from the kind of ignorance that they are still dwelling in. This is their world.It's YOU who is outgrowing this way of life. Isn't this obvious?It's not just about liars, it's true in all arenas of life. Look at nature. What are animals doing all day long? They're fucking devouring each other, and nature is rewarding the animals that devour other animals.So why are you surprised that it rewards people for exploiting other people?The problem is the world itself. This is literally what Jesus was even teaching.>Jesus said, "Whoever has come to understand the world has found (only) a corpse, and whoever has found a corpse is superior to the world."He called this world a corpse, and spoke of this way of life as poverty.This is why the goal is to leave this world (and not by suicide/death, because that's a part of this world).
>>39243611They aren't usually successful unless they're high functioning which is a small minority of psychopaths. Keep in mind that psychopaths are already a minority. If you fleece too many people, word gets around. Groups of people work together to root out psychopaths when they feel like they're getting fucked and it's a natural process. The only reason high functioning psychopaths get over on people is because we aren't actively hunting them down yet. People will.
>good people are sensible to evil, violence, and would rather not use these means even when it is justified>as a result good people are unskilled in violence, cunning, and arts of retribution and justice>being clueless they decide to save their asses and not decide to learn how to get back at those who wronged them>but hey, at least they're still them nice folks right?There u got it. You want justice? Make it yourself. Be intelligent, strong, cunning, fierce and heroic. Shit people get away with it because they prepare, protect, and defend themselves, and are skilled in charisma, violence, etc. Nothing is holding you back from learning to do the same. Stop whining and get to work then if you dare.
>>39244051>You want justice? Make it yourself.Yeah,a nice one way ticket to prison. Anyway, I'm just convinced there's no justice and never will be,and it's actually some sort of like.. universal law,the good must get shit,the bad must get all. It feels like,good people are placed on a bad timeline for them on purpose, just for lulz or because some sadistic high presence has a sadistic way of enjoying people suffering.In no logical context of the universe the good should suffer, while the bad gets away with everything, doesn't make any sense. No matter how you put it.I just hope one day or when i die to have my hands on this whatever phenomenon is and strangle it with a x1000 rage derived from all my sufferings till i pass away from exhaustion,wake up and strangle it again even if lifeless ,if it had any to begin with. For example,if i had to discover that all my pain and suffering are caused by a fucking mystical floating ever-knowing indestructible rock, rest assured that i would fucking choke it to pieces even if shard debris would penetrate my hands severing my joints.I have suffered too much in this life and I'm not even 35yo god fucking damn it and i demand justice
>>39243485No, I am the Liar
>>39244051>You want justice?Nah, I'm good. I forgive everyone. I just want what I want, the people who did bad things to me getting justice won't do me any good.
>>39244412I wish i could have your mindset anon,it would be a lot more peaceful where i am..but unfortunately i cannot due to my strong sense of justice
>>39243478>I need a fucking reasonable answerGame Theory can explain that somewhat reasonably, and also give you some direction. Learn more about it here: https://ncase.me/trust/
>>39243478Could you be more specific, OP?
>>39243478Much of truth is a lie. If the creator believes it, it becomes true. Don't look up the etymology of Idaho. It's not a real word.
>>39243478I might have an answer to that but can I ask what lead you to ask this question?
>>39246889Because it's so trap. Lady wisdom vs lady folly. The wicked always end up getting judged, but theirs souls suffer the consequences. Wisdom is a good wife who will honour and protect you. Folly seduces you and takes all you are worth. We just can't see the future, but we can identify patterns.Consequences take time to manifest. "God will not be mocked. You reap what you sow." Do these things work as some kind of formula that if you did x, the x will happen? Not quite. But we do know the end of unrighteousness is destruction. Did you know unforgiveness also bears bad fruit? "Be angry and sin not. Let not the sun go down on your anger." 'Beware lest a root of bitterness spring up whereby many are defiled.' If you do not forgive, it bears resentment. Resentment bears bitterness. Bitterness leads to depression, rage, vengeance, and ultimately murder. The solution? Believe on Jesus Christ who forgives all sins. Repent at his rebuke. Forgive all others and leave the rest to God. Have it out with God. Tell him how you feel and let him minister to you. God doesn't want to destroy the wicked more than he wants to have mercy, but he gives them time and choice after choice. Would it not be better to have mercy and healing over justice? Is mercy not an execution of justice when correctly applied?
>>39246974It is a good thing to hate lies. To hate injustice. It is good to be angry at sin. But anger the way I see it. Anger is a force for change. If change is not possible it is wisdom to present it to God and put it down. Then focus on healing/going through the tribulation. Mourn the losses and reconcile what is possible to be reconciled. It is not important for you to keep hurting when things have been done to you forever. It does not benefit you to maximize the pain.
>>39243478"They have their reward in heaven"
>>39243478Because evil has control of the earth at the moment.Jesus warned that the prince of this world - satan the father of all lies - would come after his death.The world is the devils playground for this short time we have left, everything has been twisted and every thing right has been perverted.John 14:30“Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me.”
>>39246941>>39246965Sure,and it's basically this.I'm 31, unemployed with no life directions, poor, and basically,due to my father continuous physical and mental abuse , trash talkings, backstabbing, neglect,since when i was 7yo i couldn't really be focusing on my life directions. Have been basically the victim to blame for his every motives (my fault for everything,the perfect scapegoat due my pacific nature),and due to my past problems of anxiety and depression (to wich nowadays only have a little bit of anxiety),due my past "exaggerated" reactions to his provocations and passive-aggressive talkings because i couldn't take it anymore, I'm basically fucked from every directions because it will be difficult to prove my innocence and most of all not my passivity to be at fault. Worst of all, it's a handicap match because i am 1 vs 10,most people always believed his lies while myself has always been seen as the aggressive dude with problems since birth.The only justice have been delivered trough divine intervention (as i see it ,as a way of relief), that he got lymph node cancer that for now seems on freeze, and last year after the most horrible thing he could have done, he got bad and incurable ascitis. I do not wish for his death ,let me get this clear but,i do firmly believe he got what he deserved and,i believe he deserves even more suffering. All the pain I've gone through life because of him literally has no measurable scale on a divine or physical plane,no amount of money will be enough to satiate my hunger for justice for my ruined childhood. Believe me, I've done so much mindfulness and also thanks to some Buddhism teachings, that I've survived this long and,thanks to the thoughts that i do deserve to lead a happy life and i knew some day, punishment would be dealt in a way or the other.Last thing, y'all can call me a lazy ass all you want but,if you'd were in my shoes your perception would change..100%.
>>39247270Is there any way to seperate yourself from the situation and produce for yourself? I don't think you are lazy. You are hurt.
>>39247305No other ways, I've tried anything else that is not a legal action/cause.Everything ,from social assistants specialized in family issues (i literally got abandoned with "hearing your story there's nothing i can do"),to the municipality of residence workers because they know I've always been in a dire situation,to talkings and all that one could possibly do to get a grip on life, that doesn't involve unreachable government institutions at medium-high levels.My man i tell you..when "you knock on 100 doors and none of them opens", believe me it's even harder,add on top of that all the blame and everything that I've already told you, it's a complete utter hopeless,irrecoverable disaster.I'm really grateful for my fierce spirit of justice and righteousness, for my intellectual thinking,because if i didn't have them,i would probably have taken the two worse wrong roads at the extreme opposites that many others decided to take,in situations similar to mine. (kill or be killed)At the end of the day , I just want peace and justice,for me and for my pets budgies. That's literally it, nothing else. I do not wish for luxurious cars or house, girlfriend or any other superficial things.Justice and peace, that's literally it and i do start believing that i will never be able to move forward if i cannot get those.
>>39247375Is anybody stopping you from pursuing anything you'd like to pursue? Because some people hold themselves back due to parents or siblings who would judge them for their life decisions, but if you've gotten to the point where you don't care what they'd think, you've essentially given yourself a free pass to pursue anything you'd like, emotionally un-blackmailable by anyone. That would be something.
>>39247630Yes there's no one in the family i could care anymore for since as i said,it will be a 1vs10. The last one i could have cared was my sister,but she already said she doesn't wanna get involved and from what we've talk about this whole situation,she is and always be by the side of our father because she has a good relationship with him, despite knowing all the wronging he did. Doesn't makes much sense to me,aside for the fact that, I've learned she holds no virtues nor moral values,same as him.Anyway, tomorrow I'll be eating the last straw,talking with the local police to finally try putting an end to all of this, to see if i can press charges against him for all the past abuses,and also after the lastests trash talks he also said in couple occasions not only to me but to other people as well, that to him i'm a pedophile cuz kids stops me while im walking, asking if they can pet my parrot or take pictures of him. (many other people of all sort of ages do this btw cuz they find it cute ,for that matter) Legit,my pet budgies are like they were my own sons,i love them more than anything else in this world,i would give my life for them. The fact that my father think he's a smartass bringing them into the discussion as way of stabbing and humiliating me,it literally means that he has no soul, he's the lowest scum anyone can possibly be,and that he deserves everything that he got from the diseases he caught last year. Seriously,i cannot fathom how can one man,a man of a family, be capable of doing such horrible things and still be able to look at himself in the mirror.I think I've endured enough,and if this fails as well,i do not know. Only then, I'll truly believe there's no justice and the world is just a place full of darkness, unjustified evilness.Btw thank you the kind words anon, seeing it from that perspective you described,it kinda make sense. I just hope to finally find the peace i deserved for a long time..
>>39247914Cool bird there. Didn't know walking outdoors with budgies could be a thing. In case you struggle to find anything you want to do in the near future, maybe you could considering starting a YouTube channel featuring your budgies. If you learn the ways of YouTube you may be able to monetize it too, if it's not too much stress on your budgies. Not sure if it's a sound or realistic idea but it's an idea. Possible side-gig or something.Best of fortune anon, with everything you do.
>>39243584Cope.
>>39243945>This is why the goal is to leave this world (and not by suicide/death, because that's a part of this world).So uh, how do you do that?
>>39243478>it's not fucking fair,what do you mean it's not fair? You can do anything about lies like exposing people for what they are. Just because you cant imagine a way where youre better off doesnt mean that road isnt there.Negative people suck. You gotta learn to shield yourself and have fun while theyre being miserable.
>>39243502How underage are you if you think people in the real world can just be action movie heroes?
>>39243478It's sort of like if you take a little and then have to give a little back you're not ahead by very much. But if you take a whole bunch and then have to give back a little or get caught and have to give back a little more, well you're still ahead by a whole lot.If that makes sense
>>39243478law of duality is strong here on earth.
>>39248656Anon, first of all thanks for the off-model anime tatas,i always appreciate them,have some in return. For second,in your opinion and your perspective since you call out yourself as liar by choice,and with my father-situation story wich i can guess you did read a little,i have to ask you.. can a parent be so fucking low,liar to the bone,full of himself and miserable to hate a child since early years just because, let's say, he didn't adopt the grandfather name and didn't grow up within expectations?Also, reading your post i can say, those are some motives to why i always dedicated my self in the pursuit of truthfulness because,as a really old saying goes by "Lies,will eventually come afloat". I can condone lie's a little when it comes to "for the better" or if it's to have a positive impact on something,but i totally fucking disagree when they destroy someone else life, literally.
>>39248646You don't "do" it, because "doing" is defined by the world. How are you going to turn off a video game if you're still playing it?Instead understand that everything you do is an emanation from your soul.When your soul knows this world (this entire way of being) is not right, then it will find/create something else.The Matrix is both the "evil" and the "good". The "good" is a part of the Matrix too because it prevents you from rejecting it all.It keeps you thinking you're doing something noble by enduring your suffering, or overcoming your (uninteresting) challenges. You know something is wrong with the world deep down, so "evil" gives you something to believe is the cause. But it's a false cause.The real problem is the entire _context_ in which the game plays out. It is the world itself. And all you need to leave it is for your soul to want to truly leave it _all_ behind.This is why it's frequently said the answer is to know yourself. The more you know yourself the faster it will happen.
I think that "Good" can win as well as "evil" and that all you need is the right methodology to do so.However what is "good"? What is "evil"? Many different cultures and religions have differences in what they consider to be good and evil and this goes all the way down to the individual level.I don't think it exists in the way we think of it as a concrete reality...I think it exists if we give power to it but if we reclaim our power from it then it no longer exists.I agree that nice or good guys finish last a lot but I don't think that's inherently the case, I think it's the case because they were never taught how to thrive in the world or to have control over themselves.It's a case of the blind leading the blind and the "evil" typically has had to refine their methodology and/or believe in themselves so they either go down the jail or execution route or they end up much more successful beyond everyone else while the "good" typically get compliments and never taught to take care of their resources and to be ambitious in helping so they end up being on the bottom having gave everything away whether that be money, time or effort to someone else's dream.However some "good guys" do end up successful if they learned how to play the game so to speak.But my 2 cents is this: Both good and evil only exist as constructs of our mind, the world is more complicated than that and we can be more than just good and evil. If you want to win, learn how to play the game, and winning can take many different forms such as spiritual enlightenment...it doesn't have to be about getting rich or starting a family or what have you.if anyone else wants to discuss this with me on this thread, feel free.
>>39248778>can a parent be so fucking low,liar to the bone,full of himself and miserable to hate a child since early yearsYes, at least it was your dad, mine was my momI only got into lying because lying to her would get away from me being insulted or beaten up. How can someone be so cruel and so sentimental
>>39249707Oh well, looking at a positive side,i hereby thanks genetics to not have inherited his brain and lack of empathy.I also envy you in a way, because you were successful in avoid beatings by lying, meanwhile speaking for myself,i was never good at it,got beaten anyway even if tried to do so. Do you think my father and your mother have any bit of soul in them or just complete egocentrism? Seriously,if i was in their shoes and did all that to a mere child,i wouldn't even be able to look at myself in the mirror, because I'd feel like shit and utter garbage, probably slit my wrists out of guilt/resentment.The theory i got on my father tho,is that he suffered always,from anger management issues ,masked it too well,because he recently stated in a discussion that he was beaten by my grandfather when he was little,as well.I believe trough also on the fact that he has some sort of mental impairment because,even tho he got beaten when he was child, that's not an excuse do exert it on your own son too,god fucking damn it. And i am a prime example of it; i got done the worst things by him but i didn't grow up killing animals , beating random people or being a complete pshyco sociopath. I was able to do mindfulness and overcome many difficulties, he didn't do jackshit on the other hand and thus remained the same piece of shit of a father garbage vile monster he was trough his whole fucking shitty life.Plus, it's normal to ask for forgiveness or saying that you're sorry when you do horrible stuff like that...he never done these things and kept instead blaming me for everything, using me as a scapegoat.I've also recently started believing i got cursed on a past life due to some horrible i did. There's no logical explanation as to why I'm the son of such piece of deranged soulless shit devoid of empathy. We're too different
>>39248635cope with what? I'm not complaining on anything that OP saidSeeing the devouring nature of the world, do you think anyone is safe from having a surprise from it despite how much of an amoral predator one becomes?Then bad people could cancel all their insurance payments.
>>39243478offense/defense
>>39247270It sounds like your dad is a malignant narcissist anon. Such types naturally turn their families into a cult like group of sycophants, snitches and flying monkeys. That thing where the push your buttons to the point you act out and look like the crazy person is called 'reactive abuse'. Learn to grey rock and navigate around their tactics. There's lots of yt vids on this subject and reddit is actually useful in groups like r/raisedbynarcissistsOf course 'narcissist' is an over used psychology term. In the past they were just called evil people. The worst ones are a vector for spiritual warfare. You sound resilient overall in that you haven't been provoked to darkening your own heart and wishing him harm. Hopefully you can get away and restart your life. In some cases it can take planning almost like leaving the mob. Good speed.
>>39243478Justice is coming.
Because being evil works...
>>39243478>Without any punishmentJust because punishment isn't immediate doesn't mean it never comes.
>>39251941Anon, I've tainted my heart and wished him the worst pain possible,in some cases even death,not out of pure intention,but out of me don't wanting to take it anymore. I legit suffered too much in life because of him, I just want justice for my 7yo self for all the beatings i got,for my teenager self that got abandoned,beaten more and verbally abused for the stupidest of motives,for my current adult self because i deserve happyness and i have endured trough enough pain. All of this it's not fair, especially when i didn't do anything to deserve all of this at a starting point.Can you share some links? Or whatever should i search specifically? It would help a ton>>39251967And that's precisely the point of why I'm also partially angry af,for fuck sake. I've endured twenty fucking three years of continuous pain, suffering and psychological torture, because of him...and now??? Only 23 years later he gets what he deserves??? Does it sounds right to you? It shouldn't be like that, especially when the family bad situation is known by other people too ,god fucking damn it
OP here ,and i have an update on this statement, regarding the whole subsequent story: >>39247914I've gone to the police station this morning,and i was rejected. They didn't even hear my full story,they straight up told me, first i have to be clipped/badly injured since I don't have testimonies, only then i call them and make legal persecution,even tho i explained what's going on.I seriously fucking hate this corrupted shit ass place called Italy, there's no justice for those that got wronged. There's nothing , only after you be sleeping with the worms they do something. It's fucking ridiculous and baffling.There will be never be legal justice, I'm fucking done,ruined for life,ruined to the point of no return. I am a total loss, I don't know what to do anymore,im not even angry, just profoundly disappointed and at a utter loss for words. It's not fair anons,why did i have to be cursed with this dread existence,why the fuck did i have to be born to live a life like this. Why the fuck do i have to keep take it all,be quiet about and observe as my life crumble away with no other possibilities. Just,why,why me, I want answers and I want justice, god fucking damn it.At this point i can only wish and pray for divine intervention even tho I don't believe in god or anything else,my father has to be punished, he cannot get away with it and make me look like the crazy fool. It's not fucking fair,shit.
>>39243478Because nothing's black or white or straightforward. There aren't different teams, there are no "Evildoers" vs "good hearted people", everyone is both. And there are other factors that play into how the effects of causes affect a certain individual, factors you're clearly not considering.
>>39243478Its actually because their provisions benefit a large group of neo-serfs and their potential rivals in plutocratic dominance happy.There's a general give and take, ebb and flow. At certain levels of congress, you have to concern yourself with the playing field that you're on. If you suggest cuts to what could be yours and everyone else at your level for the sake of others, the entirety of the group will turn on you and oust you for someone more agreeable.The reason you are even aware if how their lies work is because you fall to either the upper, or lower, percentile of folk who simply don't benefit from them. The real thing to consider is most of the median benefits from these tyrants in charge. You exist in a different form of "idealized normalcy" of which these people in the median satisfy themselves with. You can either hate your situation, or recognize that the way you exist gives you a unique perspective on things.
>>39253185The issue is you think life is some kind of balanced game with rules and fairness baked in. Grow up kid. You're on the Internet so you probably have most of your basic needs met. If you want unfairness go be born in some shit slum in the Congo.
>>39253185Sam Vakninhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLx1u1kaEgc&t=10sRichard Grannon:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwYzVk7fOhANarc Conhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPQqxjXDFVoWebsiteshttps://outofthefog.website/https://www.reddit.com/r/raisedbynarcissists/
>>39254441Thank you my man,i appreciate it. I really hope to find some answers in there.
