If your idea of God is real, he allowed my early life free of my own agency to transpire in such a way, that it conditioned the rest of my life to be very heavily biased toward "satanic" gnosticism and disregard of his perfect orthodoxy. He obviously doesn't want to "save" me.
>if your idea of dad is real he let me burn my hand on the stove rather than yelling at me for being a retarded and andcuffing me to the radiator This is the level of thinking you at on right now anon
>>39244239I never put my hand on a hot stove when I was a child, because I'm not retarded. They told me not to touch it because it was very hot, so I didn't.
>>39244252Then by that logic God does want to save you
>>39244201>Admitting he knows betterCome home
>>39244405Why can't God just plainly explain everything to me like my parents did to prevent me from burning myself?
>>39244456He did You didnt read it
>>39244465No, he didn't. I'm not going to get into it but I have personal questions regarding my own life I have never found a satisfactory answer for in Christianity
>>39244473>no theres something he doesnt answer wont say thoughGreat and I found your questions in my butthole
>>39244456Why should he, when you're already so clever? Satan knows you are too, and preys upon this; many clever men are nade fools by the wiles of the de vil, only by him exaggerating how clever they are. God has faith in you. You are an intelligent man, and curious. These are good traits, and he placed them within you. But you are not without flaw. Nobody is. Do not be overcome by that whisper in your ear that assures you of the legitimacy of your gripes, that you wouldn't have any if they weren't legitimate, clever as you are. You are very close to coming to the correct conclusion.
>>39244487>Why should he, when you're already so clever?Because he wants me to follow him not "satan"? I guess I'm disobeying his order to not try to use my own logic or reasoning, and just blindly obey
>>39244201Bump and reminder the Jewish god is a local volcano deity who in the OT acts more like Satan than Satan does in the NT. The Creator God is impersonal and unknowable and the Elohim are pagan deities in an esoteric hierarchy leading back to the source of all. Pass it the fuck on.
>>39244502Anon. You know that you are being absurd. What is logical about what you're currently doing, denying God and turning to the enemy? Satan has you by the collar. Why obey him, who would ruin you and fill you with resentment and self pity? Where is the logic in choosing the devil when his existence implies that of God? This is not logical. You are being emotional. You are offended and hurt, rationality escapes you in this state. And this is how Satan would like to keep you. Wounded deeply, picking at it and showing off your bloody fingers. Let it close. You can be free. This is your choice to make.
>>39244543>denying God and turning to the enemyI don't believe there is an evil entity named satan, I think that is a made up false dichotomy. I believe in one supreme God who comprises all things, both good and evil
>>39244529When did you first start hating Christianity?
>>39244554And wouldn't an inhumanely intelligent and purely malevolent entity like you to believe in such a thing? Hypothetically.
>>39244529based knower
>>39244563>dude I know you don't believe Christianity is true... but what if it's true, though?
>>39244577That isn't Pascal's wager. See, this is what I'm talking about. You're clever and curious, but you have a very high opinion of yourself that is frankly unearned. Where are you, O enlightened one? Shitposting on the chans, alone on a Saturday night. Worldly achievement is not especially relevant to Christians. But for you? You'd think a belief system that's so materialistic would produce someone capable of material success. Assuming it's true, that is. The Abraxas must be displeased to have such unimpressive followers.
>>39244201You reincarnate and learn new shit. You get to learn if this way of thinking yields positive or negative results, and in what ways different aspects of it do those things for you. You don't get babysat. Honestly, this late in the game you are still acting as if you are on level 1 of the tutorial, and haven't learned anything. How does it feel not to know shit after ten thousand years?
>>39244239>Implying the gap of power, knowledge, and capability between Father and Son vs God and Man is equivalent enough for this to make senseWhy do you lie and contradict your own book when it suits your argument? Isn't there a verse about blasphemy?It's actually like the dad bought up land, grew trees on it and chopped them down for wood to build a house, purchased sheet metals to craft into a stove and installed it the house, then conceived a child and kept it ignorant its entire life about the dangers of a stove all for the explicit purpose of watching the child burn itself in its ignorance to teach it a lesson. And then proceeds to blame the child for not liking him.Your God is the textbook definition of a narcissistic psychopath and your faith in it compels you to forever act like an abused child to excuse your father's cruelties against you that were always entirely his fault lmao.
>>39244734>misses the point entirely >uhmmm God le didnt tell us anything was good or badHow would you feel had you not touched the stove this morning
>>39244788Your point deserves no consideration because of how retarded it was to begin with>>uhmmm God le [christard speak]The stove does not represent good or bad, halfwit. It represents god deliberately putting you in a situation he already knew you were going to fail and refusing to help despite having the capability and losing nothing in the process. Once again, you christards have no answer for the problem of evil, so you just make shit up.
>>39244895>refusing to helpYes because if God just babystepped you you wouldnt have done anything and therefore wouldnt have lived If you wanna be led around like a faggot go back to /y/ but freedom always beats harm reduction >no answer for the problem of evil There is no problem of evil No one knows enough about the universe to know if its managed evilly No one knows enough about evil to know what's evil in the moment No one knows if human morality can apply to God Morality proceeds from God so if he wanted to troll anon here that's moral >muh morality was from natureGo beat your wife and eat children then larping faggot
>>39244201>>39244734what is it with this specific brand of emotional toddler syndrome with millenials? you are having nothing more than a perpetual emotional spergout an an entity you apparently believe is unreal. much like the father figure who clearly was not adequate in your life, you externalise all blame for your own agency. you are fully capable of recognising the life you ought to be living, which is why youre constantly engaged in this defensive mental illness to abstract it. God isnt real, but at the same time every failure in my life is his fault. fucking grow up you insufferable middle aged faggot. you could stop living with the guilt of not being the man you know you could be today, but youd rather cry on here about an entity you don't believe in forcing you to be a fucking loser. im not suprised you feel unloved by God because you exist in a situation that necessitates self hatred
>>39245041>an an entity you apparently believe is unrealI never said I didn't think he was real anon. Not everyone who disagrees with you is an atheist
>>39244920>Defending an omnipotent being for his incompetenceNPC behavior.>brings up faggotry unprovokedOf course the Christcucks apologizer is a closeted fruitcake>Trying to goalpost shift EvilShut the fuck up with you lying kike tactics. Even if you're too retarded to recognize evil, your book always instructs you exactly what is considered evil you absolute braindead nogloid. If you can't detect the evils of this world based on the guidance of your religious code then what the fuck are you practicing it for to begin with, fucking dipshit? >Morality proceeds from God >Implying people didn't know not to eat their children before GodLmfao for fucks sake there are beasts of the field that know not to do this you dense faggot. Easily the gayest fucking response I've ever received in these threads. Please keep going.
>>39245052An omnipotent being cannot be incompetent you low IQ brown faggot. You can be though. But you don’t like to accept that, so you blame the being instead. >christcucks apologiserESL>evil is obviousGo ahead and explain what it is and why it exists then. Otherwise it’s a baseless tautology you’re asserting >if you can’t detect evilIf you can, so easily, as you’re claiming, you have nothing to be seething about.>people didn’t know not to eat their children before GodOh okay you’re genuinely just a midwit philzombie. Hey moron, I know you’ve literally never thought about this before despite your entire self concept being based around being a heckin critical thinker, but if your consciousness and behaviour is entirely reducible to amoral material conditions, morality doesn’t exist. Animals being conditioned to behave in a certain manner for reasons that have nothing to do with good or bad does not generate a moral ought. You lazy redditors are an intellectual cancer, seriously. Read one book of moral philosophy in your entire life. Where are you deriving morality from, why is it binding? The argument he’s making is that morality is an objective reality, an a priori immaterial one the same as mathematics, of the same source which we mentally intuit. Ie, something is true, beautiful, or moral, because it reflects Gods nature in some way. This is plato, literally the most basic philosophy you could read. Fucking hell fedoras are the least educated people on this website
>>39245052>he thinks an animal can behave in a moral way An animal deciding to do something has nothing to do with morality. They don’t have a concept of it. A cat can’t criticise its own behaviour based on an ethical system and decide what to do based on that. They do what their conditioning instructs them to. How can you miss basic stuff like this? Do you think a cat is evil if it tortures a mouse, you complete moron?
>>39245082the sad thing is they’re mostly millennials in their middle age too. the zoomers are better informed than them
>>39245045Oh right you’re a gnostic. Follow your ancient teachers and cut your own balls off because the world is so evil
>>39245103>Follow your ancient teachers and cut your own balls offJesus is the one who tells you to do that, I think I will actually keep my balls because I enjoy sex
>>39245111Except he didn’t, do you think he wanted people gouging their own eyes out too? It wasn’t christians practicing ritual castration, it was gnostics. If you look at christian history you will see veneration and engagement in the carnal joys of life, tempered with the knowledge of over indulgence and undue elevation of these sensations, or the use of them for selfish reasons. I think a peasant who enjoyed sex, felt guilt and confessed was having a better experience than some secular faggot who has sex with his trans gf for the 50th time, doesn’t enjoy it, feels guilty he doesn’t enjoy it and pays for therapy.
>>39245041>an entity you apparently believe is unreal. >God isnt real>you don't believe in Not once did I say I didn't believe in God. You jumped to that conclusion so you could project me as 'le reddit atheist xddd' to try and delegitimize my point. To even interact with your kind's brand of mass psychosis, one has to at least play along with your LARP. You're just using that to avoid entertaining what I said because you know there is truth in it>More gay projectionImagine playing holier-than-thou while posting on this website like everyone else here, pretending you've unlocked some deep esoteric wisdom by prostating ass up to your Desert God. Pathetic. >every failure in my life is his fault.Everything that exists is because of God, dumbass. You'd know that if you actually read your gay book instead of LARPing on the internet about it>you exist in a situation that necessitates self hatredThe ironic audacity to say this when your entire faith hinges on you denying everything that makes you yourself and serving as a chopped dick masochist. Lol. Lmao even.>millenialHang yourself boomer. Nothing good has ever come from your kind.
>>39245131Lol you gotta love how ALL of this is defensive seethe, I struck a nerve >I actually believe in a God I hate!How fucking sad is that then? You may as well say you hate reality and can’t imagine any good reason to have created it. Again, always it’s an emotional reaction first and foremost, as hoc justified with (in this case) very limpid reasoning >projectionWell the king of projection, who projects all his shortcomings onto a deity, would surely know. I’m not saying i’m better than you, at all. But at least what motivates me is my love of things, my belief in them, a positive and creative outlet, rather than spite and negation. You post about what you despise to the point where nobody can pin down what you really believe in. I guess that’s too scary to admit, it might get made fun of. Easier to just attack.>everything exists because of GodIncluding your free will. The feeling you are experiencing is knowing you are not the man you could have been. You can redress that the hard way, with self honesty and effort, or you can blame God for not forcing you to be the way you wish you could be. >denying everything that makes you yourselfOh here we are with the enlightenment midwit shit. I called you a millennial because i’m YOUNGER than you, it’s only ever failed middle aged millennial faggots persisting with the militant atheism shit. It’s not fashionable anymore because its proponents are all whiny manchildren. If you want to believe being a selfish degenerate faggot is the “real you”, ie, the result of your ego trying to protect itself through distracting dopamine hits rather than face up to its own feelings of failure and inadequacy, be my guest. We both know that if you were truly self actualised and happy you wouldn’t be crying and pissing your pants about the creator of reality, because you’d have no reason to hate reality. You do this because you aren’t happy. Also atheists make up the majority of trannies lmao, cope
>>39245082>Be perfect being>Design imperfect worldRemarkably Retarded, you are. >grammatical error, I winOf course the room temperature IQ christcuck resorts to malding over the most inconsequential shit because he can't disprove my point. Pathetic. >Please explain a concept my faith already explains so I can chimp out and nitpick it like a spastic retard You are free to look up "The Problem of Evil" at any time; But I'm not falling for this stupid shit. Anyone who actually practices an Abrahamic faith would not need to ask such a dumbass question. >If you can, so easily, So you haven't read the book that comes with your faith? Why are you responding to me if I have to teach you everything about your own fucking religion? Lmfao you're so full of shit its insane. I'm not even reading the rest of your garbled kikespeak because of that.
>>39245217>imperfect According to you.>grammatical errorNot declaring victory, I just take joy in exposing brown ESL shitskins pretending to be white. >nitpickIs that really how fucking lazy you’re going to be here? Another thought terminating cliche because I made you think scary thoughts? Why don’t you actually, for your own sake, attempt to answer my question? Everyone can see you blatantly avoiding it. Where are you deriving an objective moral standard from, logically, and why should I believe it? Look up “is/ ought” and read some actual philosophy instead of asinine youtube atheism tier shit for once >your own faithI’m asking you, not God. If you are so effortlessly able to intuit moral evil, where is the problem arising from? Clearly you have everything you need to be good in the eyes of God, so there’s no issue. >i’m not reading thatI’m not surprised the big words trip you up.
>>39245170>>I actually believe in a God I hate!>Christcuck can't comprehend religious skepticismOh no it's retarded!>But at least what motivates me is my love of things, my belief in them, a positive and creative outletNigger no one gives a fuck about you LMAO! You think that shit is unique to religion? Anyone can feel that. Still doesn't change a single fuck about anything I said. >Including your free willOf which God was Omniscient to long before the universe was created. Therein lies the rub that you retards refuse to accept, even though there's an entire branch in your faith for this. >The feeling you are experiencing is knowing you are not the man you could have beenStill projecting your subconscious failings onto me lol. >i’m YOUNGER than youOh got it, so just you're some snot nosed child whose entire knowledge of God probably comes from reading scriptures on tiktok and now suddenly thinks he knows better than everyone else. I figured you were either a boomer or a child given your insolence. In hindsight, the child argument makes more sense given how juvenile your argument was to begin with. Unfortunately, you need to be 18 or older to post on this site. Kindly vacate until your brain actually finishes forming.
>>39245303>keeps obfuscating his beliefs with more and more distraction because he can’t coherently defend themKek. I was wrong for assuming you were an atheist, wrong for assuming you were a theist or agnostic. I can’t get it right can I? >nobody gives a fuck about youWith your obsession with individualism you might want to apply that statement to yourself. Nobody gives a fuck about you or what you think either >anyone can feel thatYou don’t though. I’m describing mentally healthy behaviour, motivated by desire and want, or belief. Yours is motivated by spite >projectingThis whole thread is literally you doing that. It’s the only thing that explains the emotional outbursts. Literally read the OP>you think you’re better than me!Notice how he says this over and over. Anyone who believes in a higher reality thinks they’re better than him, if you don’t approve of everything he says and does, it’s because you’re judging him and feel superior. You genuinely can’t fathom the concept that I just disagree with your values and beliefs, and don’t have a particular high opinion of myself for doing so. It’s so weird. Good to know you’re genuinely a man in his thirties still suffering from cosmic daddy issues, and dedicating what time you have left to sperging on here all day.
>>39245233>No Ufaggot response. >brown You know if I did worship a god, I think the first thing I'd thank him for was not making me genetically inferior by making me hwite. Even more ironic considering you're a zoomer, who are the most nigrified generation on the planet. >I’m asking youYou're asking a question you already know the answer to? >I’m not surprised the big words trip you up.Someone that uses reddit-tier words like "mid wit" and "philzombie" have lost the right to speak about someone else's vernacular.Now, go back to posting on /y/ like the closeted faggot you are. god don't like gay anyway.
Gentlemen please, let's keep 4chan a place of civilized and respectful discussion, shall we? God's universe may not be especially civilized and respectful, but here we have some power to maintain our own walled garden of beneficence if we collectively desire it.
>>39245375>no u Where?>he’s unironically brown>he’s calling whites inferiorI can basically stop replying here. Your entire reality is cope my brother >you already know the answerYou haven’t answered me, where do you derive morality from, personally? Can you give a logical, evidential account of why it exists? >random homosexual fantasies at the end
>>39245417Gods universe is perfectly civilised, it’s all the people who reject it that aren’t.
>>39245341>Retard too incompetent to understand spirituality beyond ON/OFF. Blame your god for making you too feeble to understand complex positions. Not me. >Nobody gives a fuck about you or what you think eitherSure buddy. That's why you're still here crying in every single response post instead of just ignoring and moving on lmao. Where's your free will now? >Implying I'm OPOh no, its retarded again!>>you think you’re better than me!Why do you keep doing this? Just making up whatever it is you're feeling on the spot and then putting words in my mouth? Is it because you have no true sense of self beyond faith? Or is it because you're an ignorant child who hasn't experienced the world enough to know anything beyond what your father and book told you? I don't think I'm better than anyone. I'm not in my thirties either, but I have been on this board long enough to spot fake Christians and you fit that bill to a T. You claim to know God while acting like a serpent. And it's hilarious watching you tarnish your soul doing so. In a secondhand cringe sort of way. But hey, keep making up your bullshit about me. Eventually a broken clock will be right twice a day.
>>39245423>he’s calling whites inferiorWhites are genetically recessive, anon. To deny this fact is to deny what our eyes can plainly see. All the traits that make you white (blue/green eyes, blonde hair, pale skin) are cucked, inheritance-wise. You can't intermix because your genes aren't strong enough to compete. But that's a topic for a different thread. >>homosexual fantasies>says the faggot who brought up /y/ out of nowhere "stop hitting me!" cried the jew as he struck you.
>>39245483>ON/ OFFOh here we go, i’m too vague and esoteric to be defined, man. So I can attack any position while conveniently never being able to be attacked myself. Totally not to do with me being unable to defend my actual beliefs lol>you’re the one cryingLook at the thread. It’s all you crying. You literally started it. >implying you aren’t >why do you keep doing thisYou… you literally said it twice. I’ll link the posts:>>39245303>>39245303????You accuse people of thinking they’re better than you out of nowhere in both. >no sense of self beyond faithWhat? Surely a sense of self is a predicate for having any antecedent belief like faith?>I don’t think i’m better than people, I just make up a strawman of people I don’t like for whatever reason and cry about it all day on here >acting like a serpentOnly in the sense that i’m effortlessly causing you to choke
>>39244555I eat your digits and consume your defiance you swine. We shall reclaim the original mystic Christianity, restore it from filth, and fuck big titty goths with our new immortal bodies in the Aquarian Age.
>>39245560keyed templar bro
>>39245530>i’m too vague and esoteric to be defined, manLook up the definition of "religious skepticism" then make up a new excuse as to why you're retarded.>WAAAAAAH YOU STARTED ITYou need to be 18 or older to post on this site. >>You literally said it twice>links the same post twiceOh no it's STILL retarded!!>You accuse people of thinking they’re better than you out of nowhere in both.Clearly I said that you "think you know better" not that you ARE better, moron. Looks like you were the ESL retard all along.>Dumbass thinks having a strong sense of self meshes well with the confines of religious groupthink.How can you think you have a sense of self when you don't even have self-awareness???
>>39245417It's not my fault these Christoids get bent out of shape every time someone challenges the glaring hypocrisies in their beliefs. Anyone who's confident in their faith shouldn't go full spastic at the slightest bit of pressure.
>>39245591We're not even arguing with a real Christian, he's some 18 year old tradcath groyper
>>39245583That doesn’t tell me what your views are. You could just explain directly like I keep asking instead of obfuscating >waah you started itActually a relevant comment when you’re accusing me of being the aggressor>links the same post twiceMy mistake here’s the other;>>39245131>think you know betterAs with the other post seething about people being “holier than thou” because they don’t agree with you, you instantly assume people are being smug and judging you. Just read your posts lmfao>strong sense of self meshes with groupthinkAgain, just low IQ enlightenment rhetoric. Sorry to tell you this but you didn’t invent any aspect of your personality, it was derived from genetics and factors around you. You aren’t a spontaneous random little disconnected atom but a product of your culture, place, language, history and various philosophical axioms you’ve been exposed to. Human brains are reactive and imitative. We operate on group narratives. You belong to a group that tells you you’re a heckin free thinker while you download your entire ideology from the tv.
>>39245591how fucking DARE they defend their beliefs when someone attacks them like a seething autist every day and calls them names. those bastards! >>39245597let’s not reply to ourselves this is just sad brother
>>39245608>Again, just low IQ enlightenment rhetoricVersus the "high IQ Christian medieval rhetoric", hahahahaha
>>39244201What did you know first? Christianity or Gnosticism? The problem with humans and their blasphemy is being ignorant, they judge themselves and judge God believing they see the truth, that's right my friend, humans have their ignorant faith in many things inside them, but God is merciful and forgives because He knows better than you and I who are ignorant.
>>39245617Yeah. I believe medieval philosophers had a more coherent account of human psychology than people who believe they are magically generating every thought independently. You have to be fucking retarded to think that based on how your brain works.
>>39245597Yeah, I started to sense something was off but couldn't put my finger on it. Asking what "evil" was should've been a dead giveaway.But it's also fun watching him try his damnedest to defend a doctrine he doesn't even fundamentally understand lmao.
>>39245720You can seriously stop replying to yourself my man. It’s obvious. And no, me asking you to define evil isn’t what you’re implying. Me asking you to make your own beliefs and stance coherent to me isn’t an unreasonable thing. I get my morality from God. I’m asking where yours comes from, and what it is.
>>39245754>I get my morality from God. I’m asking where yours comes fromMyself.And yes, that literally makes me the Nietzschean definition of a super human
>>39245608>That doesn’t tell me what your views areThen you didn't look up religious skepticism, tard. Furthermore, why does it matter? You already said you didn't care. And you don't need to know my religious views to engage with what I've said, either.You just want something you can latch onto so you can shit on it because I keep shitting on you by calling you a Christcuck (which you are, christcuck) lmao>accusing me of being the aggressorI accused you of continuing to respond to me, which is exactly what you're doing. Again, if you didn't care you can easily ignore me and move on. Yet here you are, still bitching and moaning.>Sorry to tell you this but you didn’t invent any aspect of your personality, it was derived from genetics and factors around you.Hilarious that you continue to blaspheme God in your attempts to own me. You're only further proving the other anon was right about you just being some faggot teenage groyper who made his entire personality hinge on what culture he derives from. This is what I meant by finding a sense of self, and not pretending to be someone you're not because you think it's cool. It's not. It's gay as hell. >You can seriously stop replying to yourself my masee picrel
>>39245772>myselfAgain, this is exactly what I mean. Why is that a compelling standard for me? How is it objective? Why does it matter? You’re asserting that atomic chemical collisions created an instinctive impression in your brain, also influenced by random cultural conditioning, of what amounts to a behaviour preference. It is not compelling for anyone to follow and does not indicate to any sort of objective reality, it is a nonsense. You can try to comfort yourself calling yourself a superman, but at the end of the day you’re the inchoate product of random genetics and random influences of your culture and time. You didn’t create shit- you reacted to it. And you can’t justify on a basic level why anything you say matters.
>>39245793>inspect elementLol>j-just look up my viewsWhy are you so afraid of just telling me what you think? Seriously, it’s been many posts now where you could have just done it and you avoid it every time. >you want something to latch onto to shit onFull accidental psychological disclosure going on here lmao. You want to know what I think just so you can attack me! Defensive as ever. >because I call you a cuckA cuck calling me a cuck means literally nothing. Pic related. >I accused you of responding to meHow dare I denigrate your autistic ESL tirades attacking me. >you’re only provingHow? By stating a fact? How is that statement at all blasphemous? It is a staple of premodern psychology that we merely make our minds open to higher reason and receive it- the better we do so, the more mental cogency individuals have as they understand the same mental reality. You’re the one making nonsense claims about inventing your own beliefs out of thin air which is unprecedented in the history of humanity, even among geniuses. >not pretending to be someone you’re notI don’t give a shit about what random accidents of fate gave someone their specific predilections and preferences. Why should that matter? Surely a higher set of values beyond each individual person is what matters, an ethos they conform themselves toward and not the other way around?
>>39245839He's not samefagging you retard lmao. This is just sad. You cannot fathom that more than one person on the internet could disagree with you and think you're a faggot
>>39245855You realise inspect element is a thing? I can notice when two people only reply at the same time after long intervals and one exists to pathetically cheerlead the other and add nothing to the conversation.
>>39245839>coping till the very end in the face of hard evidenceChristcuck behavior. >proceeds to screech because his faggot feeble gryoper brain can't comprehend Deism.>You want to know what I think No I don't. Nothing you think is worth any value. >No Ulol>No U x 2lmao>How dare you speak to me in that mannerLMAO>How is that statement at all blasphemous?Maybe try reading the religion you're going to LARP for before arguing about it next time, retard.
>>39245872Yes, some of us don't live on the internet. I realize that must be strange to you.
>>39245987>hard evidence It isn’t though. The fact that you’ve continually failed to answer every argument ITT makes this stance a bit hypocritical too>can’t comprehend deismAs I said, you believe in God and hate him, ie, you hate life and the universe and blame it on God. >No I don’tStop responding and seeking my opinion then?>No UOkay, actually explain to the thread how this is a No U. Please. Because it seems like cowardly hand waving to me.>how dare you speakYour own words I quoted retard>try reading the religionI have. You keep vaguely insisting i’m making a contradiction but apparently you’re too stupid to articulate directly what it is>>39245994>HOW DARE YOU FUCKING CRITICISE THE INCOHERENCE OF MY SECULAR MORAL SYSTEM!!! LE GO OUTSIDE CHUD!Good argument. Why am I not allowed to ask you basic stuff?
>>39246059I'm talking about the inspect element you dumb tard>Thinks he can sum up someone else's beliefs when he doesn't even understand his own>Pretends this is some brilliant revelation on his part when "religious skepticism" was a dead giveaway. lol lmao even>I have.Oh OK. So you know that God said he is the first and the last? So you know that saying >"durr its genetics and factors around you" you are explicitly blaspheming God by discrediting his creation by attributing it to manmade factors. So you are purposefully sinning to try and win an internet argument. So you are a groyper.Again, a real Christian should realize when they are speaking against the name of God, but because you're a retarded edgy child your knowledge of what it means to actually have to believe in God doesn't go beyond trivial surface level trite.The remedy to this is to actually read the fucking scriptures before you defend them. But you're too terminally retarded to do that. >Stop responding and seeking my opinion then?You keep provide your opinion unsolicited, and I keep getting to call your opinions retarded. I'm not going to stop responding because I enjoy doing this to you, because of how much it hurts you inside. >explain to the thread lol redditor detected>Your own words I quotedkek no it's not. >CHUD!le epic projection.
>>39246158>uhhh i’m talking about the inspect element I used Okay?>thinks he can sum up someone’s else’s beliefsI dunno what you’re thinking, but everyone else ITT can see me repeatedly asking for you to clarify your beliefs and you refusing to >durr it’s genetics and outside influenceHow does that preclude God as first and last? Didn’t you say earlier he caused everything? Try to stay consistent >accrediting it to man made factorsWhere…? Genuinely quote me on that. I’m saying the human brain reacts to its environment and forms its (self defensive) stances ad hoc based on conditioned belief and mentally innate belief. Not one factor of this conflicts with the fact that God has a way he would rather us live. You genuinely come across as some ESL barely understanding the terms i’m using. >I hate God and hate christianity but according to my interpretation of your beliefs you can’t think what you doLmao, I love arguments with low IQ peeps>doesn’t go beyondRetard, i’m asking you to defend and define your own beliefs. You can’t do this so you deflect to mine which i’ve explained as coherent >I keep calling your opinion retardedOperative verb, calling, never proving Your last three points are just more pathetic diversion and deflection. You don’t explain your own views, you deny words I literally quoted from you ITT, and you accuse me of projecting when it’s literally all you’ve done so far
>>39246232>but everyone else ITT No one's left in this thread. Much less does anyone else care. I know your kind likes to have these arguments to be seen but I assure you, anyone whose passed this thread thinks you're a fucking retard.>Asking more questions any Christian should be able to solve on their ownThis is not bible study, faggot.>Genuinely quote me on thatLiterally show me the verse God mentions genetics then you daft faggot. I'll wait...>implying someone stops understanding Christianity if they no longer believe in itAnother inane take. Please keep going retard.>Your last three points I wasn't making any points. I was keking at you for how you fail to blend into this board's culture (like a redditor), lied about what I said (I never said any of that), and then preceded to call yourself a CHUD unprovoked. Thank you for outing yourself even though we already knew.
>>39246295>it doesn’t matter if I lie, obfuscate and be completely dishonest because nobody can see itLmao, thanks for that admission >christians should be able to solveI’ve given you my answer. You keep blatantly trying to mask your own. What is it? >quote me…>God talks about geneticsOh ok, we are doing the anything not explicitly mentioned in exact modern terminology in the bible isn’t christian routine. Crazy how atheists suddenly turn into KJV fundamentalists the second it’s convenient for their argument. God you’re dumb. >implying someone stopsYou’ve demonstrated no knowledge of it >I w-wasn’t making points, just inane bitchy rhetoric easily rebuttedlmao>how far you fail to blend into cultureYou’re right, I don’t agree with this one basedjak spamming redditor faggot so I don’t fit in. So true
>>39246328>Immediately starts lying in his next postpottery.>Retard still can't figure it out after being explicitly told twiceHow can one man be this braindead?>Brings up genetics>Oh ok, I'm going to start making up faggotry because I got called out for inserting my own beliefs into the religion I pretend to believe inlmao>atheistOh no he's still retarded!>>implying someone stopsESL faggot strikes again>so I don’t fit inYou don't fit in because you're a groyper faggot that doesn't belong. Killing youself is the only atonement for your crime of being born.
>>39246418>starts lyingWhere? Genuinely quote it>can’t figure outIt would be easier if you’d just state it. I’ve answered everything you’ve asked me. It’s strange that you won’t do the same? >inserting my own beliefs into the religionAgain, you’re telling me my own religion precludes a belief in genetics despite the existence of men like pascal and mendel (the latter literally being a monk). I know you’re clearly not that bright, but you don’t get to define what I think and call me a hypocrite based upon your imaginary summation of christianity >still retardedYou’re still not telling anyone what you think to avoid being criticised for it >ESL faggotThis one’s just genuinely embarrassing since I made no grammar error. You haven’t grasped english well enough to recognise this and have misdiagnosed an error >don’t fit inI fit in better than you because i’ve been posting here longer than you. I don’t know what the fuck a groyper is. You’re the only faggot on here insisting someone who offends him cannot belong, ironically contradicting the whole point of an image board that promotes free expression.
It’s 6am where I am and i’m going to bed because I have a case note due on wednesday. If you’d like to keep talking to me i’m rabbitun777 on chatango. Goodnight
>>39246295>No one's left in this threadI'm here now because I usually enjoy reading and participating in arguments online but this seeming line-by-line "refutation" style of "argument" where at least one of you is mostly relentlessly calling the other retarded is just painful to try to follow. Very disappointing.
>>39246490Again, you can stop replying to cheerlead yourself kek. Holy shit
>>39246519The fact that you interpret me as supporting whichever one of the two arguers you are certainly says something, though if you're not the christoid then I think I'm theoretically on your side.
>>39246564*whichever one of the two arguers isn't you
>>39246564as I said, pointless cheerleading faggot either way who adds nothing.
>>39245375>You know if I did worship a god, I think the first thing I'd thank him for was not making me genetically inferior by making me hwite. ew. are all the anti christians on here retarded shitskins?
>>39244201oh no you were forced to go to church on sundays boohoo im sorry dude :( better start worshipping the biggest loser in existence that hates you so much the only other thing he hates more is God. retard
>>39247341>oh no you were forced to go to church on sundays boohoo im sorry dudeI was not. Parents weren't religious
>>39244682Hes materialistic because he is not christian?
i love jesus and fear coming up short
>>39244201Your just a bitch that couldn't cut it as a Christian so you take the easy route. It's extremely hard to be a Christian and live like Christ did. You couldn't and wouldn't last. Just face the facts that you'll never be anything but Satan's ass slave. I bet your jewish.
>>39244201You have free will because you ate an apple, you big stupid jellyfsh.
>>39248641And if "God" didn't stop them from taking also from the tree of life, they would have become just like him, and lived forever. Doesn't really seem like the infinite creator of the universe to me.
>>39244201Wrong. Agape-Love God obviously doesn’t want to save you *now*.Now he is allowing your family line and your community to TEACH you your rejection of Agape-Love leads to narcissistic hell.The Money Power believe ONLY the bloodline matters — individuals are just temporary manifestations of the bloodline.They are trying to perfect their bloodline above all others by showing how rotten out bloodlines are.This is why they hire Satanic Pagans — they will NOT COMPETE for Most Fit Bloodline in God’s Eyes.The Money Power psy-opped you into Satanism and the self-genocide cult by investing in a toxic food and medical system. If you have children, you will poison your children.Satanism == rejection of Agape Love == narcissism.The Money Power Royals and Bankers have already mopped up Elite Narcissism on Earth.By DEFINITION, they want you gone.In process — and they appreciate your efforts to assist in their goal.
>>39248593> It's extremely hard to be a Christian and live like Christ did. You couldn't and wouldn't last.Absolute truth… but nobody ‘lasts.’ All are retarded relative to God-level Agape-Love.But we engage ourselves in battle, do the work, and repent toward Agape-Love moment-by-moment.
>>39248641> You have free will because you ate an apple, you big stupid jellyfsh.The KEY was ‘knowledge of good and evil’ not the specific type of fruit.God IS Agaoe-Love and that WAS the guiding principle Adam, Eve, you and I reject when we disobey Agape-Love God.How is your NARCISSISM serving you?How is the Money Power NARCISSISM serving you?
>>39248653You leave things alone for 5 minutes, and they start listening to some snaking talking to them and they eat an apple from a tree they were not meant to eat an apple from, you think things might have just a bit of the common sense they were pre-programmed with.
>>39248711All you stupid jellyfish had to do was NOT EAT AN APPLE, which is not a hard thing to do, similar to how you can avoid getting addicted to drugs by NOT TAKING DRUGS, and the same for alcohol by NOT DRINKING ALCOHOL, which I suspect is of extreme relevance in replying to your post.
>>39244201he allowed you to use your free will and you used it to be wrongsounds like a skill issue
