Come discuss the worship and conjuration of Ishtar, Inanna, and Aphrodite. However you work with the Queen of Heaven and her entourage, you're welcome to discuss here."Appearing in more literary compositions than any other deity, Inanna embodied endless complexities and contradictions: an unbridled goddess at once upholding and destroying the status quo; a passionate goddess engaging in romantic and destructive erotic love; a heavenly goddess who trod the underworld; a feminine goddess who was sometimes portrayed as a bearded warrior; and a mercurial goddess bestowing tender mercies even as she moved freely from one conquest to another.""Inanna is also challenging outside of texts because of iconographic confusion, BUT the cult had to already be widespread before the third millennium in order for it to have the extent and significance it does as soon as we have a clear look at a given period. There are symbolic connections and structures linked to her worship as far back as urban centers go in the near east. There are reasons to think she also supplanted or inherited the role of an older regional 'mother goddess.'"If you're interested in working with the Queen of Heaven, the best things you can do are to start meditating, making offerings, and maybe banishing too. Preferably do all three daily, or at least a few times a week. This will get her attention and improve your ability to communicate with her, as well as generally train your occult abilities. Eventually I'd like to develop a regime focused around historical and revealed techniques from Inanna.Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/SQmZvivkOther recommended resources:Rod and Ring by Samuel DavidLioness: The Song of Inanna by Samuel DavidLiber Astarte, Aleister Crowley's text on worship: https://www.sacred-texts.com/oto/lib175.htm/sum/moning Information Page, for learning Goetia: https://pastebin.com/ZHPM0KVzThe Trve Grimoire by JSK
inb4 all the faggots, coomers and troons.
>>39244944Ishtar Discord: dA9qRsVp
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wotan's thread now back to the depths faggots
Hymn to Ishtar (RA 22, 170-171)This beautiful, remarkably well-preserved hymn to the goddess Ishtar praises her for her various aspects: seductive beauty, terrifying power, wise authority, and beneficence to those who worship her. It was likely intended to be sung, with a refrain that appears at the end; if you’d like to hear how it sounds when read aloud in Akkadian, there are recordings online here and here.i (1)Sing of the goddess, most awe-inspiring of goddesses! Let the mistress of peoples be praised, the greatest of the Igigi-gods!Sing of Ishtar, most awe-inspiring of goddesses! Let the mistress of womenfolk be praised, the greatest of the Igigi-gods!ii (5)She is clothed in pleasure and seduction, endowed with voluptuousness, glamor, and allure.[1]Ishtar is clothed in pleasure and seduction, endowed with voluptuousness, glamor, and allure.iii (9)At her lips drips honey-sweetness; her mouth is life itself. [2] Trysts blossom as suits her nature.She is splendid; seduction-magics rest upon her head. Her markings are beautiful; her eyes are prismatic, iridescent.iv (13)The pure goddess: command comes from her. She carries the fate of the world in her hands.From her attention, prosperity comes into being, and helpful spirits of all kinds. [3]v (17)Seduction, submission, sexuality, satiation, [4] and concord: she rules over them.The abandoned (?) girl finds in her a mother. She will proclaim her among the women; she will call her name.vi (21)Who can equal her greatness? Anyone? Powerful, exalted, and fabulous is her status.Ishtar: can anyone equal her greatness? Powerful, exalted, and fabulous is her status!
>>39244949>>39244975Shut up larper. >>39244952>>39245433I'm cooming for moonmy.
>>39244944>as well as generally train your occult abilities.can u elaborate pls
does she make pacts for changing one's appearance?
>>39245562Mainly things like learning to percieve spirits, but also building up power to fuel your practice>>39245571Maybe. Sounds like it wouldn't work too well to me, but I'm no expert and she is associated with making men into women and women into men. So maybe try it out. If I was to structure it, I would start with an offering where I make a pact with her - each week I look more like my desired appearance and I'll keep making offerings to her. If this process stops then the offerings will stop
>>39245449>calls us larpers>starts cooming to an anime girl who's entire community is gooner foot fagsShiggy diggy.
>>39245884>If I was to structure it, I would start with an offering where I make a pact with her - each week I look more like my desired appearance and I'll keep making offerings to her. If this process stops then the offerings will stopyea i agree ty for giving me that ideabut how would i contact her in the first place to propose this idea to her and have like a live back-and-forth and agreement and everything? im a total beginner so pls bear w me haha
>>39245884>but also building up power to fuel your practicecan u explain this more thoroughly pls
>>39245998You would call on her by singing her praises, using her name, and asking her to appear before you. At the beginning you won't be able to percieve her so don't worry to much about that. Simply present your terms to her and if she agrees you'll see the results and you'll just need to keep your end of the bargain. I recommend Consorting with Spirits by Jason Miller for more information. If you want to work with Ishtar's emanation Astaroth you could try to work the True Grimoire in the OP as well>>39246007A regular practice makes all of your magic more powerful. You become more able to work with the energies that come up in these practices and spirits, gods, and other entities will respect you more
>>39246091is Ishtar demonic?
>>39246150No; she's the Queen of Heaven. That said, she's been demonized by Christianity and will respond to being summoned using Christian methods as Astaroth.
>>39246153>No; she's the Queen of Heaven.is there any way for me to confirm this for myself? no offense, but im not gonna take u at ur word about something like this
>>39246162You can look into her history; her status as goddess is well established throughout ancient history. She appears as Inanna and Ishtar in Mesopotamia, and again as Aphrodite and Venus in Greek and Roman contexts respectively. Other than that you can try to work with her yourself and see what vibes she gives, though if you're not already experienced with the occult you probably won't even be able to perceive her so that would be worth next to nothing
>>39246360how could I improve my perception of her? the pic i posted is an occult book guide i got sent on here a while back, would this be a good place to start for this type of thing? or is there something else i should do?
>>39246383That looks okay. I recommend the /omg/ guide though, supplementing with books from your guide if you want/omg/ — Occult, Mysticism, and Magick General>Libraryhttps://controlc.com/f90157e6>MysticismHindu — Raja Yoga, Hathayoga, Shiva SamhitaTaoist — Foundations of Internal AlchemyTheravada — Knowing and SeeingSufi — Sufism for Non-SufisJewish — Jewish MeditationGeneral/Thelema — sacred-texts.com & hermetic.com/figures/index>GrimoiresAgrippa's Three Books are coreArbatel should be the first; afterward Heptameron, or Goetia, or Abramelin, Picatrix, etcThe PGM tend to be modularesotericarchives.com/>Buddhism & VajrayanaIntro to Tantra, Refining Gold. Look to centers in your area & others that offer empowerment online. Avoid NKT, Rigpa, and Shambhala. Garchen Rinpoche and HHDL's whole YouTube catalogs; you can take empowerment and transmission from their recordings if vows are understood, but really you should have a teacher.The Facebook group Vajrayana Events regularly posts online empowerments, lungs, and teachings.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/studybuddhism.com>Golden DawnCicero's Self Initiation into the Golden Dawn, Lyam Thomas Christopher - Kabalah, Magic & the Great Work of Self TransformationFind a Temple: pansophers.com/golden-dawn-locations/>Aurum SolisMagical Philosophy (70s editions go from I-V, modern from I-III), then Planetary MagickThe Practical Guide series>Aspire to A∴A∴Have a basic understanding of the Golden Dawn system. Read Liber ABA, then go through this reading list:ordoaa.org/studlist.htmFocus on Liber Resh, E , RV, O, Astarte, and HHHFor a full curriculum, Mystical and Magical System of the A∴A∴>Chaos MagicLiber Null & Psychonaut, Condensed Chaos, Liber Kaos, Hands-On Chaos Magic>Tradcrafthttps://pastebin.com/KB7QhL7u>Astrologyhttps://pastebin.com/euWACNrK
Ni accus bith nombeo baid:sam cin blatha,beti bai cin blichda,mna can felifir gan gail.Gabala can righ...feda cin mes.Muir can toradh.sen saobretha.Brecfásach mbrithiom-braithiomhcech fer.Foglaid cech mac.Ragaid mac i lligie a athar.Ragaidathair a lligi a meic.Cliamain cach a brathar.Ni sia nech mnai assatigh...olc aimserimmera mac a athair,imera ingen...
>>39244944I've always felt her call but I'm monotheistic. Guess she is my anima
>>39246383>>39246399If you just want to get good at perceiving spirits you could just read Consorting with Spirits by Jason Miller though
>>39246399im pretty much only interested (at least for rn) w deity/spiritwork. which of those groups that you listed would be best suited for that do u think?
>>39246424>>39246422Also pick any form of Mysticism or Vajrayana
>>39246453i dont mean to sound like a cunt but which one is more simple/quick/easy-to-get into as a westerner?
>>39246471I can't say because I'm mainly into Buddhism. I recommend you look a bit at all of them and pick the one you like the most. Vajrayana is more of a commitment because you have to take samaya (sacred vows).
>>39244944Isn't queen of heaven Mary? Or is it all the same? Are all these female gods connected to Venus?
>>39247107MOMMY
>>39247532Ishtar was the Queen of Heaven long before Mary, though you could argue there's a historical relation between the two because of this
>>39245433vii (25)She is the one whose standing is greatest among the gods; her command is honored, and it prevails over them all.Ishtar is the one whose standing is greatest among the gods; her command is honored, and it prevails over them all!viii (29)Their Queen: they discuss her edicts; every one of them kneels to her.They move toward her effulgence; womenfolk and mankind fear her alike.ix (33)She is foremost in their assembly, her command supreme. She sits among them, equal to Anu, their king.She is wise with alertness, knowledge, and understanding; they advise each other, she and her chieftain.x (37)They rest together in the shrine, [5] in the temple spire, the dwelling of delight.The gods stand before them, their ears alert to their statements.xi (41)The king is their chosen one, beloved of their heart. He constantly gives his pure sacrifices in splendor.Ammiditana [6] (constantly gives) the pure sacrifices of his hands; he sates their presence with fatted bulls and stags.xii (45-52) [7]From Anu, her spouse, she requested long prosperity for him, in perpetuity. Ishtar bestowed numerous years of wellbeing upon Ammiditana. (She has granted them!)By her edict, she makes the wide world bow at his feet; she has harnessed every single village to his command.xiii (53)Her heart’s desire, her tempting song: they fit well on his tongue, and he speaks like Ea himself. [8]So he heard her praise, and he was delighted. May he prosper, and may he love his king forever!Antiphony [9]O Ishtar, grant long, perpetual prosperity to Ammiditana, the king who loves you! May he prosper!
𒀭𒋫𒄠 𒍪𒌝𒊏𒀀 𒊏𒋗𒌒𒋾 𒄿𒇲𒁴
>>39244944But why though?
>>39250821Because she's based
>>39245433>>39250569[1] The precise implication of these three terms is hard to quantify, but they seem to refer to different aspects of sex appeal. Inbu, literally “fruit,” is a common euphemism for sex organs, so it refers to her physical curves. Mēqû, literally “cosmetics,” refers to deliberate female beautification to attract others. Kuzbu, “charm,” is a word for sexual magnetism that can refer to either gender.[2] This line may be a sexual reference to her metaphorical mouth and lips, naming her vulva as a source of sweet sustenance. The following line refers to her role in inspiring sexual dalliances.[3] “Helpful spirits of all kinds” is my paraphrase of four specific words, whose meaning is hard to capture in English. The first two are quasi-personified qualities of pride/dignity and splendor/glamor; the final two are the lamassu and shedu, beneficent guardian spirits.[4] This line contains multiple obscure words, making its meaning a bit speculative. The first and third words likely derive from the same verbal root of mutual (often sexual) loving, and the line has prominent alliteration and rhythm. More tentatively, I suspect that the four words are four stages of intercourse: initial flirtation, agreement to initiate, actual lovemaking, and ensuing contentedness. The following line completes the sequence with a term for friendly agreement; after their lovemaking, the couple is amicable.[5] “Rests” here is the same word used in line 11; “shrine,” in its core meaning, is literally a pedestal or dais. Thus, this stanza fuses two sets of images: Ishtar and Anu anthropomorphized as rulers of a throne room, and cultic statues of Ishtar and Anu in place of honor at a temple shrine.
I'm a straight biological male, not transsexual or a succubus obsessed coomer or anything. I'm interested in seduction, being more attractive to women, being more masculine and having sexual prowess as a man. Does that fall under Ishtar's domain, or is she more about the feminine aspect of beauty/sexuality?She seems appealing for some of the things she stands for but I can't help but to worry if I won't start wearing dresses if I deal with her.
>>39252436Absolutely. She's a general fertility and sex goddess."The chaste maiden and youth cannot escape my sight; My eyes unlatch locked doors.The chaste maiden and youth cannot cloister themselves in the holy chamber;My feet lead me to them and I draw them out with my dance."
>>39252470Not him but I am a volcel who never faps. Would Ishtar dislike me? I personally don't hold anything against prostitutes and promiscuous people but I feel like if there is no love sex is kind of useless.
>>39252619I don't see why she would dislike you. She is also a goddess of love.
>>39246471>>39246453I forgot to mention, Rod and Ring by Samuel David might be the best book on mysticism for the aspiring Ishtar worshiper. It's an initiatory path based on ancient Mesopotamian principles
>>39250569>>39245433>>39252324[6] The references to Ammiditana, the king of Babylon from 1683-~1647 BCE, allows us to date this poem with relative precision. Incidentally, Ammiditana was also the king (and the subject of Ishtar’s blessings) during the composition of this love poetry. One or both pieces may have been written to commemorate the king’s substantial donation to a temple of Ishtar in his 29th year.[7] This stanza contains eight lines of the original poem, since I believe that this segment makes most sense if its lines are read as half-lines and joined together accordingly. Otherwise, the thoughts and clauses are split between lines, abruptly and repeatedly, in contrast to the relatively self-enclosed lines elsewhere in the poem. As far as I know, I’m the first person to suggest this solution. (Metrically, these two stanzas are also strange; normal Akkadian poetic lines involve two even cola, whereas most of these lines are three odd cola. Joining them together creates the opposite problem — too many cola per line for good Akkadian poetry — but reads better than the alternative. The cause for this could be historical, stemming from the editorial/redactional process, or musical, stemming from a shift in musical meter.)[8] Ea was the god of cleverness, so to “speak the speech of Ea” means to speak eloquently. The pronouns in this stanza get a bit tricky, and there isn’t complete consensus about them; “he” may refer to king Ammiditana, divine Anu, or perhaps even the hymn’s performer. My best guess at interpretation is this: “[Ishtar’s song] fits well on Ammiditana’s tongue, and Ammiditana speaks like Ea himself. So Anu heard Ishtar’s praise [i.e. this hymn], and Anu was delighted. May Ammiditana prosper, and may Ammiditana love his [divine] king [i.e. Anu or perhaps Marduk] forever!”
>>39252661>no ebook version>only physical version is a limited run with a minimum price of $60+fucking annoying and pretentious
>>39252470MOMMY.
how the fuck do you retards worship ishtar but are the gayest weakest men that i have ever seenbecome like ashurbanipal and slay 3000 men with your sword and maybe mommy will notice you
>>39254483I slayed them in videogames. Now mommy is with me.
Dont forget daddy.
>>39244944Hello! I am a deist, but i wanna get into worshiping Ishtar, how do i do that?
>>39254563Play FEAR and kill a lot of replica soldiers.
>>39254563I wanna add one more thing here, i fap a lot, is that a form of worship?
>>39254604Depends to whom you fap to.
>>39254611>>39254604Not to sound ignorant but I dont think a goddess of sex and war who user to have entire civilizations worship her would respect you wasting sexual energy to jerk off. I'd imagine she would want you to fuck or fight someone, or create something in her name
>>39254643>fap in physical plane>fuck in astral planeYou sound ignorant, because you are ignorant.
>>39254811nah they are right, fapping is a waste, its far better to use that energy doing shit in reality
>>39255077>reality is only le hylic worldKnow nothing, you.
>>39255077Fapping is fun, if you can't do it without losing energy that's a (you) problem.
>>39255101as above so below fagbeing a neet who spends all day fapping (filth in the physical) corrupts your soul in the astral. if you dont believe me look at the digits my previous post got (holy dubs)
>>39255120>skill issueGo back to your containment thread, retentoor.
>>39255126im a transgender nonbinary this is my containment thread
>>39255140your containment board is over at >>>/lgbt/
>>39255140Like I said, skill issue.
>>39255150>>39255155you all should relax and maybe understand that jerking off all day doesnt help you get laid, win battles, or accomplish goals.its normal for addicts to lash out when confronted, I dont hold it against you.
>>39244944Failing marks for omitting Sophia.
>>39244944I want to be her
>>39255186Looks too plastic for a goddess.Also needs bigger boobs.
>>39252661Samuel David is the kikiest name I've heard all day. You can't get more jewish without going to Shmuely Rosenberg levels. PASS.The soulless synagogue of satan have nothing to teach upright white men seeking knowledge of the Goddess. You will only find secondhand regurgitations and misleading innuendo in such a book. BET.
>>39255179>jerking off all dayRetentoor projecting his past unto others.
>>39255211Historical reenactoors think that the mesopotamians of past days would behave the same if they were transferred to our day and age. They think life is like Civ games.
>>39255211The irony of you worshipping a Semitic goddess though
>>39255274Jews don't like her because that's idol worship
If a mesopotamian would enter a time machine and come to our day and age, he would find out there are no more Ishtar temples, and no more sacred prostitution. He would either 1: convert to christianity and go to a christian temple, or 2: find out there is a virtual cult in the internet, and fap for 2d priestesses, having sex with them in the astral plane. A hylic would most likely pick 1. So when armchair platonists are going to stop with the reenactoor crap? There can be no reenactment, because there is no temple, and hylic women would larp as priestesses and offer no physical sex in exchange for donations to the temple. Instead they would set OF accounts. But for men, reenactors will charge them everything, including calls to murder other men, or to behave in a certain violent way, while living in a full surveillance police state. If you can't access the astral plane while awake, it is a skill issue, so pick 1 and leave us alone.
>>39244944I wish I looked like that. Can she turn me into an anime girl as well pls
>>39254458I rather agree. I would like to purchase a copy and OCR it so the thread has access to it when I'm able>>39255593>>39245884
>>39255186If I get too off into the weeds and start mentioning every deity that's connected to this current in the OP then people start to argue over what deities are really related to the Queen of Heaven and discussion never gets anywhere. It's totally fine to discuss Sofia in the thread; that's why I left things so open in the OP
This is going to be retarded but maybe someone can interpret:A while ago i saw one of these threads and fell asleep reading it and looking at one of the pics somebody posted. That night I had my first wet dream in months, maybe years. I was having sex with a darker skinned version of my ex (she is white), and even though it was missionary she was very much dominant, unlike my ex in real life. I had the most intense orgasm I can remember, and I either shit myself or farted real loud during orgasm (never happened to me IRL) and the girl in the dream seemed annoyed and I woke up soaked in cum feeling guilty and disguisted with myself, not because of the sex but the other thing. That day I matched with a girl on Hinge who turned out to be an absolute psycho, called me 5 times that night, after not having any matches in months. I haven't had a similar dream since. Also I don't watch porn and i haven't spoken to my ex in months.Does that mean anything? I feel retarded for even typing this out but it's buzzard.
>>39255211>upright white men seeking knowledge of the GoddessLmao.You'll crossdress and you WILL LIKE IT.
You will never succesfully establish a cult.
>>39250569>>39245433>>39252324>>39253627[9] These final lines are actually labelled as an antiphon, a short response that would have been sung back to the main performer, by either the public or a second performer. They may have been repeated after every stanza as a kind of refrain.Source: https://mostlydeadlanguages.tumblr.com/post/139566565563/hymn-to-ishtar-ra-22-170-171
>>39255309"We" already know that there aren't any ziggurats anymore because they are simply unaffordable as no private religious Foundations will be handing out wads of cash for one, unlike the Christers and the Jews who are lavishly funded. Do you really believe that the $52-a-year Christian funds their church buildings? The Abrahamics are awash with rich people's money and preachers know where the big cash comes from. I doubt that such a person would embrace Xtianity, probably Hinduism. No one is going to murder anyone. Prostitution is illegal because the Christcuck "moralists" and the 'Wive's Guild' vehemently oppose it. If you don't like it then you can't have any!
I tried to meditate and commune with the goddess but I'm not sure if I heard anything. How do I know if I'm doing this right?
https://theishtargate.com/ In case anyone needs it
>>39260059You're doing it right as long as you're following a procedure from a real tradition with your meditation. It will take much training before you can percieve the goddess, but this is a good start
Wow, these threads are back? I thought they got permanently fucked after the glowies and other fuckers wrecked everything. But then again I haven't really been on this board since that happened
>>39262937Just curious, what do you consider s real tradition? Is >>39262016 real?
>>39252661You can’t worship Ishtar without a temple and there are no temples. These reconstructionists are all LARPers and mostly bad scholars
>>39264017Preferably something with a lineage that goes back a few hundred years. If that isn't possible, then a system that comes from the experience of a reputable practitioner. I haven't looked closely but that website might be a good one to try if you want to get into reconstruction
>>39255309>and no more sacred prostitutionThere never was, it’s a Greek myth
>>39255309an onlyfans virtual ishtar temple is a good idea tho
>>39264797>Iwn cosplay as fate ishtar and be worshippedWhy even live
>>39263587Welcome back, anon. The threads died for a while but now pop up sporadically. They're much less crazy than they were back then.
>>39266371What are these symbols she's holding in her hands?
>>39267239According to https://www.worldhistory.org/ishtar/The ring and rod are symbols of leadership, maybe similar to a scepter and crown for a medieval king from Europe?
>>39267414Huh, I didn't think they are two separate objects.
>>39267572Yeah reading about it there seems to be some debate as to what the object(s) actually is/are. In the linked article it does look like it may be 2 items, but in >>39266371 it looks more like a bent rod
>>39267239>>39267414It’s a measuring device. The rod and ring are of a standardized length and used for surveying
>>39267690What do you even measure with a ring?
>>39267701It’s not actually a ring, it’s a coiled length of cord.
Can Ishtar make me handsome and tall or interest from women? Did anyone have results like that? Is that an inappropriate reason to worship a deity if you want her to bestow some kind of physical blessing on you? That's not the entire reason but that would be at least part of it if I'm being honest
Can I genuinely have sex with goddess? Like, not just in a dream or experience unseen sensations, but full-blown sex on all levels of being, including physical?>inb4 schizophrenia, insanity, deathI couldn't care less.
>>39268348it all starts with your spirit
>>39268402>physicalYou can craft a vessel for the goddess to inhabit which you fuck, (many methods to make a vessel i dont specify any) or you can search for a woman who embodies the aspects of the goddess to participate in a sex ritual, or you can take a nearly leathal level of hallucinogens and maybe she will give you tactile sensations indistinguishable from a physical presence. But if you are asking Her to manifest to you in a physical body in front of you in a sober state to engage in fornication, I would ask you to humble yourself.
>>39264461That is utter nonsense! No religious Foundation slush fund would give those who want to build one the funds to do it with! We work with what is possible, and building a ziggurat is quite beyond our means. So, She's a Wiccan Goddess.
>>39270584Slush funds didn’t build the ziggurats. The most important function of a temple is that it embodies the relationships of a community of shared beliefs.
reminder you and lilithposters cult will be strangled and thrown into Pete bogs
>>39244949Sit this one out, groomer
>>39270924Shut up larper. Your skin is the same colour of your poo.
This is just a foot fetish thread.
>>39271380you worship a kikess from the middle east who's followers have been reduced to a cult of gooner footfags stfu you semite don't throw stones at glass houses
Ishtar is a nigger faggot
>>39272091as soon as this post completed and posted I felt an intense wave of regretIshtar I'm sorry
Ishtar is for footjobs.
>>39272077>>>> Anonymous 11/21/24(Thu)07:33:03 No.39272091▶>>39272096>Ishtar is a nigger faggot>>>> Anonymous 11/21/24(Thu)07:34:16 No.39272096▶>>>39272091>as soon as this post completed and posted I felt an intense wave of regret>Ishtar I'm sorry
>>39272834Forgive yourself, I’m busy:p
