I was never an "active" atheist and never tried to convince anyone to become one. In fact, I always avoided discussions on atheism because I believed having faith was better than not having it.I’ve explored many Christian denominations: Mormon, Pentecostal, Lutheran, Anglican, JW, and countless small churches. I even attended a Catholic Mass once, but for reasons I no longer remember, I didn’t continue with the conversion process.I’ve always seen religion as crucial for preserving cultures and societies throughout history. I’m immensely grateful to the Catholic Church for organizing universities, hospitals, and schools during the Middle Ages. Without the Church, we might not even have electricity today, as most past scientists were funded by the Church.I feel incomplete, empty, and completely unmotivated. I wouldn’t say I’m sad, just "gray." Professionally, I’m relatively successful—if God really exists, He’s been extremely generous with me. But all my material wealth and achievements don’t make me feel whole. I’m constantly thinking about how to develop my faith to become a more fulfilled person, but nothing seems to work.I’m genuinely considering converting to Catholicism or Orthodoxy and living as such without believing in the supernatural. If God does exist, I hope He’ll have compassion for my lack of faith and see that, despite not believing, I’ve sincerely tried to seek Him.I have many doubts about Christianity. About 10 years ago, I was bombarded with anti-Christian propaganda by a Dubai roommate who denied the messianic nature of Jesus. But even so, I still want to be Christian. I don’t want this thread to turn into a Christian apologetics discussion; I just want to find a way to develop my faith, and only after that, I’ll seek answers about Jesus’ messianic role and other secondary doubts.
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>>39245258I don't do drugs anymore. It's been almost 10 years clean. I don't want to base my whole faith in drug abuse.
God wants you he will get you. Worry less. None of the things you wrote were relevant. You sound unfulfilled in your daily life.
Does it matter? I say this as a christian. The fact you desire this so much means you already have plenty of faith and the will do be a good man. Don’t torture yourself because you’re deficient in one area, but focus on the areas you do well in and develop those, like your moral life. You can’t force these things. Stop worrying firstly. Try reading augustine’s confessions, kierkegaards sickness unto death, the imitation of christ, introduction to the devout life, even poetry like dante and ts eliot or yeats. Your faith will come when it wants to.
>>39245304>God wants you he will get you.Is that a threat
>>39245435How frightful it is to fall into the hands of the living God
>>39245248It happened to me too, but from an opposite side, since I knew the occult I tried to practice it, but in my sanity (it was better to be cautious) and only read things that came from God, over time I developed faith, I knew from the beginning that the practice of magic needed the operation of someone superior, therefore, I read a bit of everything, in the end everything ends in the only God, since that day I try to convert, believe me that always in my day I commit sins but there is always something inside me that is not satisfied if I do not forgive myself with Him, since those days every day that I commit something serious (which sincerely are things of any average teenager) tribulation occurs, I am punished with misfortunes every time I do something bad, I sincerely believe that you should pray, say prayers every day, not to know the sacred or to obtain things of wisdom or similar, but ask for yourself to be in communion with Him, He is very but very WISE, believe me that his tribulations are better than any plot arc of a masterpiece, if you ask him with a little faith, he will shake your heart, and your faith will be unshakable, ask him with the right words, right conscience.
>>39245248Charismatic prayer meetings and pray for the infilling of the Holy Spirit, so you can tangibly experience God's presence.
I will pray for you to experience him. If you will humble yourself he will see it. He would love to reconcile with you. Jesus is the only way to the Father. Not the Jesus of denominations. He is the Word who was there from the beginning. The Word and the Spirit can never be separated. They are one with the Father. Seek and you will find. Knock and the door will be opened to you.
>>39245248>About 10 years ago, I was bombarded with anti-Christian propaganda by a Dubai roommate who denied the messianic nature of Jesus.There's a lot of bad arguments muslims make for this. I recommend the book "Seeking Allah, Finding Jesus" and I also recommend immersing yourself in the faith in general. Read books (apologetics, history, arguments for God in general), watch videos, pray/contemplate, go to church if you feel you're ready. Jesus is the way "in", so start with Him. There is no "Christianity" without a God who came down into this corrupted world to be tortured and to die for you. I understand what you mean in regards to not feeling whole. I had similar feelings growing up as an atheist, then later an agnostic, then a Buddhist. It wasn't until I found Christ and sought to know Him that I was made whole. I feel like a new creation. I used to have a sensation in my chest that was like a cold, hard rock, or a void or a vacuum. No matter how happy I was in the moment, my mind would always turn back to that dissatisfied emptiness. Now it's gone, replaced with warmth and "wholeness" (a feeling of fullness, solidity and support).I pray the same can happen to you. Take all of your dissatisfaction and hopelessness into prayer, sit with it and offer it up to Christ.
>>39246823How does Christians copy that the Trinity is polytheistic? The Old Testament is quite clear about idolatry. In Isaiah 45 Gd makes it very clear:[code]Turn to Me and be saved, all the ends of the earth; For I am God, and there is no other.Isaiah 45:22[/code]Treating Jesus Christ as a God is one of the reasons why Jews reject the messianity of Jesus Christ, for he claims to be God, which completely contradicts the Jewish foundations and the Messianic prophecies themselves.In addition, there is also a certain resistance on the part of Jesus' denials about non -compliance with most messianic prophecies. How would you convince a Jew to accept Jesus Christ as the promised Messiah?
I find it hard myself to rationalize my place in this world and God's plan for me with this fucking wretched genetic disease I have, I refuse to have children to pass this pain onto them, it's unfair and now I just have to figure out my place in a country that poisons the food and water, puts satanic psychopaths in charge while I just wither away in pain that will only get worse as I age, I want to blow my head off at this very moment but I don't have the guts to do it.
>>39245248Go to Mass or Liturgy a couple more times. Intellectual questions are certainly part of the process of changing your beliefs, but if you think Christianity might be true, there's also certainly something to be said for standing in Christ's presence for yourself.
>>39246918Try these verses:>Luke 20:41-44Also, I haven't read this book yet myself, but maybe it will be of use to you.https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/953780.Betrayed_
>>39245248da lords prayer will help
>>39246991My pain is probably not as severe as yours, but I'm in a similar situation, minus the wanting to blow my head off. There are things people like us can do and people we can reach that healthy, successful people can't (or, perhaps, won't). It may not seem like much to us, but:>So he told them this parable: “What man of you, having a hundred sheep, if he has lost one of them, does not leave the ninety-nine in the open country, and go after the one that is lost, until he finds it? And when he has found it, he lays it on his shoulders, rejoicing. And when he comes home, he calls together his friends and his neighbors, saying to them, ‘Rejoice with me, for I have found my sheep that was lost.’ Just so, I tell you, there will be more joy in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine righteous persons who need no repentance.Our role is not conventional, but it's still important. Take up your cross.>He will wipe away every tear from their eyes, and death shall be no more, neither shall there be mourning, nor crying, nor pain anymore, for the former things have passed away.
>>39246991>>39247086You don't deserve your life. No matter how much you suffer on earth, it doesn't compare to what awaits you in the afterlife. If you had any idea what awaits you there, you would take all the suffering in the world upon yourself, so that you could have the opportunity to be at the Father's side for at least one minute. But we're not talking about just one minute, we're talking about eternity.I know it's hard to think about what I've said while you're in a miserable situation with no hope, but I really need to remind you that your suffering, however great it may be, is completely irrelevant. Trying to find a justification for your earthly suffering is completely pointless. The most you can do is serve as a testimony of how earthly suffering is irrelevant in the search for the Eternal.All the suffering Mary of Egypt went through in the desert was completely useless from a material and secular point of view. She didn't need to suffer so much, yet her story serves as an inspiration to us who live in the modern world. I'm not saying that God made her suffer just to serve as an example for the following generations, in fact I would even venture to say that God didn't take kindly to all the suffering she went through, but what she did serve as a testimony to how great people's lives can be despite suffering and the high burden of sin.>rationalise my place in this worldThat's where you are wrong. Your place isn't in this world. You're just here as part of a process of theosis.>God's plan for meGod's plan for you is that you become like him. Carnal suffering is such an insignificant detail in the face of the greatness of eternity, it's almost as if your illness were a drop of water in an ocean that is eternity. The only difference is that the ocean is still tiny compared to eternity.You're in the world, but you don't belong to here.I'll pray for you. I'll ask God to soothe your pain and make your burden lighter. May God bless your life.
>>39245248Don't have advice, but wanted to say to you and others I hope you find the help you seek. I hope for the best for you, and others as well.
>>39246991Please reconsider any suicidal thoughts you have anon. I believe you can find happiness and joy. Others to connect with and help you can receive. Adventures to be had and dreams to follow. I hope for the best for you, and others as well. This message applies to others too.
>>39247146To add on, I believe there's other paths you can take then suicide. Just wanted to add that.
>>39247154What's with that "17th of November"? What happened that day?
>>39245248>About 10 years ago, I was bombarded with anti-Christian propaganda by a Dubai roommate who denied the messianic nature of Jesus.Welcome to your average ivy league college in the United States of America!
>>39247833It was in the UK actually, even though I don't think it differs that much lol.Sometimes I think, if at that time there was an obvious Christian subversion, today it should be about 10x worse. Christianity really has the days numbered.If you, Christians, do not start making 10 children per pussy, it's over. Will be replaced in one or two generations.This is where the role of tradition and mystique comes in, in my opinion.Although not a believer in supernatural mysteries, I believe that the dogma of "always being open to life" has emerged precisely to ensure the maintenance of faith over the ages.Just a demographic crisis and all tradition will be lost and, in the future, seen more as a myth than as a factual reality.
>>39247859Wait OP, I'm still reading through this thread. I will read + reply again directly in a moment. You will become a fellow Christian brother one day, my friend.
>>39246991I hope this is you too, OP. My God can even alleviate genetic diseases.I used the word alleviate instead of cure for a reason, genetic diseases are a tough one.
>>39247859Okay, finished now. I only read the first line of this the first time, and I chuckled when I read "I don't think it differs that much lol.>Sometimes I think, if at that time there was an obvious Christian subversion, today it should be about 10x worse.I think about this daily. I naturally distrust all institutions of any form. My advice: Get baptized as either Catholic or Orthodox, but keep an open mind towards gnostic beliefs. Salvation comes through Christ and Christ alone. >Christianity really has the days numbered.The Catholic church created the calendar that most of us use; you are right, depending on the definition of that sentence, lol.>If you, Christians, do not start making 10 children per pussy, it's overMy goal is 7, I am pre-destined for 3 at least. >This is where the role of tradition and mystique comes in, in my opinion.We mog the Muslims on that one, and you know it. >Although not a believer in supernatural mysteries, I believe that the dogma of "always being open to life" has emerged precisely to ensure the maintenance of faith over the ages.Absolutely correct.>Just a demographic crisis and all tradition will be lost and, in the future, seen more as a myth than as a factual reality.There will always be those who remain and pass on the faith, regardless of any scenario.
>>39247859Praying for you OP.
>>39248108>keep an open mind towards gnostic beliefsAre you talking about that story of the Old Testament God being Demiurge? The story that the Catholic Church considers heresy? I honestly don't understand much about it, the best I know is that they consider heresy because the gnostics deny that the material world is divine, but I don't even understand the consequences of that.And yes, I will try to always be open-minded to gnosis in general. I have never been a person who usually belittles people's beliefs, especially when they survive the test of time by millennial literal. Even if Gnosticism is, after all, a heresy, I still think I can take good advantage of the teachings and the experience itself. By the way, any material that could tell me so I can deepen the subject? Starting with Plato would be a good idea, in your opinion?>>39248113I appreciate it, my brother.
Come over to Satanism.We have hookers and blow.
>>39245248that's nice but running in circles in a pool of jewish religions will not make you grow. You want the next step you have to leave any abrahamist cult.
>>39248302>Starting with Plato would be a good idea, in your opinion?Nah, that's some "lore" stuff, brother. Most of the real books were burned by the church. Research the Nag Hammadi Library, it was unearthed in Egypt in 1945 (I know that you know what else happened that year). Thankfully, everything that was found has been translated into English and published several times by different authors. You strike me as someone interested in History (many people are. This is just a guess). Perhaps the history of the Dead Sea Scrolls would interest you once you've finished your cursory research into the Nag Hammadi library.Get baptised first, though. Choose between the two denominations that influenced you to create this thread in the first place.
>>39245248Ask yourself what your goal from spirit is.Is your goal simply to socialize with others in a way that allows for symbolic and meaningful connection? Then, yes, an orthodox religion may suit you. Maybe.Or perhaps your spirit yearns for something more than simple demonstrations of spirit and desires the fire of meaning and esoteric progress? In that case, no orthodoxy will save you. You will find them wanting in the end. You will be left unfulfilled. Their empty pitcher filling your empty goblet with nothing but a null stream of insubstantial dust.Seeker, lost in the woe of Nigredo, do you truly desire the end to your malcontent? If so, digest your Self and seek your Shadow. Confront that which lies within, become your own form of conscious nourishment and flower in ways that the mere embers of your flame spark alight in the hearts of others.
>>39245248You should of smacked your roommate square in his fat mouth to stop all the schmeel that was pouring out of it.
>>39246823I'm another anon who is struggling with similar issues OP is having and wanted to get your opinion. I feel like I have been rushing into faith and trying to find shortcuts to 'get right with God' rather than developing a proper relationship with him. For example, I wanted to get baptized because "well, it's required to go to Heaven" and tried to get a family member to do it for me. Of course, I stopped doing this once I realized it wasn't right and coming from the wrong place, but I still want that relationship.I asked God to give me strength and to help me get a relationship with him, and I said to myself that I'd let it come naturally rather than trying to force it like I was before. Do you have any advice for me? I grew up in a non-religious household but went to Catholic school and have Autism so feeling 'love' isn't something that happens very easily.
>>39245258Most people can't get them and you just want to flaunt that you can.
>>39248399Do you really think anyone will see how obsessed you are with religions you hate and want to be like you?
>>39245248Look within. These religious systems are all lies. The answers are inside you, you just have to look deep enough.
Happiness and meaning is on the other side of fear and shame. Plenty of people use god to assign a narrative to this fact, but even without god, this meaning to the universe exists inherently.Connect with people. Make friends. Do meaningful work. Do the hard, right thing. Confront your flaws. Never give up.
>>39245248>spiritually lost>looking for answers in religionwould make more sense to look for answers in spirituality?
>>39245248> I feel incomplete, empty, and completely unmotivated. I wouldn’t say I’m sad, just "gray." Professionally, I’m relatively successful—if God really exists, He’s been extremely generous with me. But all my material wealth and achievements don’t make me feel whole. I’m constantly thinking about how to develop my faith to become a more fulfilled person, but nothing seems to work.God is real, the Bible is His Truth, and the whole world is deceived.You seem to have figured out the last part. Most never get there.Why are you seeking Agape-Love YHWH?What do you WANT?
>>39245304> God wants you he will get you.Ancient Israel was never offered salvation in the Bible. They lived and died unsaved. Ezekiel 37 explains Agape-Live God’s Plan to save them — and most everyone else — AFTER they die ince and are resurrected.God’s Holy Days reveal His Salvation Plan, but the masses rejected them and went Pagan for their holidays.Jesus was killed at the exact moment God said to slay the lamb on Passover.The church of God was founded on God’s Festival of FIRSTfruits.NOT accidents.
>>39245435> Is that a threatA promise.
>>39248733>just make something up then decide it's some deep truth
>>39245717> He is very but very WISE, believe me that his tribulations are better than any plot arc of a masterpiece,^^^ This.If your soul is not being seared to refune Agape-Love Supremacy in your core, you’ve been deceived.God will ruin *you* to bring out Agape-Love in you.
>>39246032> Charismatic prayer meetings and pray for the infilling of the Holy Spirit, so you can tangibly experience God's presence.Pray for Agape-Love discernment and Agaoe-Love Will.Don’t seek a selfish feeling of comfort. Pure love from a pure heart is the salvation Agaoe-Love God offers.We live on a planet where narcissism — the spirit of the antichrist — reigns.
>>39245276>muh drugsthats too bad looks like you're doomed to a life of being a spiritlet. Why don't you try something more your speed, like matcha and abstaining from seed oils
>>39246918> How does Christians copy that the Trinity is polytheistic? Corporate churches have been corrupted by the Money Power.The truth is there is ONE AGAPE-LOVE GOD who has the ability to manifest in different ways.That is what is revealed. The Money Power paid the church to teach 1 being = 3 beings nonsense to show how stupid the masses are. They are manifestations of ONE Agape-Love God.
>>39248839>just subcontract your reality to other people and trust that
>>39248862>the Money Power.>the Elites>the Controlling class>Joggers>Youths>Spring Breakers>Engineers
>>39245248>I've tried all the flavors of one religion and I feel lostEver consider that earth is a big place and you can explore other faiths?
>>39245276You couldn't abuse shrooms even if you wanted to.
>>39246991Set an example, revert back to the diet God created for you, and help others do the same so they don’t poison their children.I will add that genetics and epigenetics CAN’T be separated in almost all cases.IOW, you BELIEVE your condition is genetic but don’t know it. It could be epigenetic.The Money Power system is set up to oxidize you — biologically burn you with biological fire.Build up your antioxidant defense systems and stop ingesting their pro-oxidizers.Rusting iron filings are NOT food and don’t exist in food. Search Morley Robbins.Toxic industrial seed oils are NOT food, they are oxidant accelerators. Search Dr. Chris Knobbe.Your bio-copper status is your body’s master antioxidant… how depleted is your bio-copper status? Search Morley Robbins.You have to eat in accord with God’s natural law — that includes eating organ meats from grass fed animals because the whole-food C in the grass is the source of the organic copper.Search Mary Ruddick and learn to make organ meats edible.Goat-foot soup with organic chicken bouillon works wonders when organs are chopped small and added with muscle meats.
>>39248870>the Money Power.The Bloodline Narcissist Royals and Bankers. They believe everyone outside their bloodline is an alien, just like a rat or an ET is an alien.>the ElitesThe handmaidens to the Money Power Agendas that sold their soul for sime debt-based money that will blow up in their face, too.
>>39248961> The Bloodline Narcissist Royals and Bankers. They believe everyone outside their bloodline is an alien, just like a rat or an ET is an alien.This includes Jewish people. It includes their too management as well. They are aliens to be used to further Bloodline Money Power Supremacy.
>>39248893bet he didn't try them allgo to a quaker meeting anonmeditate with the brethren
>>39248914This post is a blend of dietary advice and conspiracy-leaning commentary typical of /x/. Here’s a breakdown of the main points:>Genetics vs. Epigenetics:The poster asserts that most conditions believed to be genetic are actually influenced by epigenetics. This idea aligns with emerging science showing that environmental factors can influence gene expression.>"Oxidizing" by the System:The claim that the "Money Power system" intentionally causes oxidative stress in people is conspiratorial. However, oxidative stress is a legitimate biological concern linked to poor diets and environmental factors.>Antioxidants and Copper:Copper's role as part of the body's antioxidant systems (e.g., superoxide dismutase enzymes) is valid. Bio-copper refers to bioavailable copper, which can be essential for health.The emphasis on "rusting iron filings" and "bio-copper depletion" is likely an exaggerated interpretation of legitimate concerns about the form and balance of minerals in diets.>Industrial Seed Oils:The criticism of industrial seed oils (e.g., canola, basedbean oil) is rooted in some scientific findings that these oils, rich in omega-6 fatty acids, can promote inflammation and oxidative stress when consumed excessively.>Diet Based on "Natural Law":The push for grass-fed organ meats as a copper source is a traditional nutrition stance. Organ meats are nutrient-dense and do provide bioavailable copper and other nutrients. The advocacy for whole-food sources aligns with ancestral dietary approaches.>Practical Advice (Goat-foot Soup):The recipe suggestion reflects the idea of incorporating nutrient-dense organ meats in palatable ways. Mary Ruddick is known for promoting traditional diets and ancestral health.The anon blends valid health insights with conspiratorial language. While the dietary tips might benefit someone interested in traditional or ancestral eating, the rhetoric around systemic manipulation needs critical evaluation.
>>39248914Here’s a summary of the three authors mentioned:1. Morley Robbins>Focus:Mineral health, particularly magnesium and bioavailable copper.>Main Ideas:Advocates the “Root Cause Protocol,” emphasizing the importance of magnesium, copper, and retinol (vitamin A) for optimal health.Believes modern health issues stem from mineral imbalances caused by diet, stress, and environmental toxins.Critiques over-reliance on supplements like synthetic iron and calcium, claiming they disrupt mineral balance and oxidative stress regulation.>Controversies:Robbins promotes non-mainstream ideas about copper and iron metabolism, with some claims lacking robust scientific support.>Approach:Focuses on natural, food-based solutions to correct mineral imbalances.2. Dr. Chris Knobbe>Focus:The health impact of industrial seed oils.>Main Ideas:Attributes modern chronic diseases (obesity, diabetes, heart disease) to the consumption of industrial seed oils like basedbean, canola, and corn oil.Emphasizes the imbalance between omega-6 and omega-3 fatty acids caused by these oils, which promotes inflammation and oxidative stress.Supports a return to ancestral diets featuring whole foods, animal fats, and minimally processed ingredients.>Scientific Backing:While his views align with certain studies on seed oils and inflammation, critics argue that he sometimes overgeneralizes the evidence.>Approach:Advocates a dietary overhaul based on eliminating processed foods and returning to traditional, nutrient-dense diets.
>>392490773. Mary Ruddick>Focus:Ancestral health and traditional diets.>Main Ideas:Promotes the health benefits of traditional and ancestral diets, emphasizing nutrient-dense foods like organ meats, fermented foods, and bone broths.Explores how indigenous diets sustain health, comparing them to modern processed diets that lead to chronic diseases.Encourages making nutrient-dense foods more palatable and accessible for modern lifestyles.>Practical Tips:Offers strategies to incorporate organ meats and other nutrient-rich foods into meals in flavorful ways.Shares recipes and preparation methods for nutrient-dense dishes.>Approach:Focuses on cultural wisdom and culinary creativity to reconnect people with healthier eating habits.>Summary Comparison:Robbins: Mineral metabolism and correcting imbalances with a natural approach.Knobbe: The dangers of industrial seed oils and chronic disease prevention through ancestral diets.Ruddick: Practical implementation of traditional diets with nutrient-dense, whole foods.Each brings a unique perspective to health and nutrition, with overlapping emphasis on traditional, whole-food approaches and skepticism toward modern dietary practices.
>>39245248be a scientist if you want to be spiritually solid....as you should be a racer if you want to drive an f1 car
>>39249146Oh yeah that's right. Spirituality is synonymous with scientists. Of course. That's a real world thing, not a clown world thing.
>>39249071AIslop stresses me oxidatively.
>>39245248Material rewards are not from god, animalDon't you know WHO is the Prince of this World ?THAT is someone you can have Faith in!Jokes aside my dear OP I don't know how to help youI found faith but that's not a reproducible process, at least as a right hand PatherMatherDon't the Christians have a 'tech' for that? I'm sure they doTry the Hallow app?
Start meditating.Eventually (they) will reach out to you.
>>39247064https://annas-archive.org/search?q=Betrayed%21+Stan+Telchin
>>39247859Of courseChristians have been defeated and neutered by Vatican 2 followed by Feminism and porn
>>39247975Of course God canBut they're typical karmic conditions: there for a reason and removing them would hinder the soul i.e. the real self
>>39248108And It's a fucked up calendarThe real year starts in March and is 13 lunar months of 28 days, plus oneThe jews celebrate it upside down of course
>>39248302John Lamb Lash
>>39248570Lol freemason luciferian stop eating and r.ping babies
>>39247064Honestly, I don't get it.You mean that since the Old Testament, it is already said that Jesus is God? I still don't get it, if there is only ONE God, then why Jesus himself says he is also God?Another thing, if Jesus is God, then why in Mathew 27 he said: Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani (hat is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me)?My IQ is too low to understand that.
>>39245248Stop seeking other humans in power to guide you. It comes from within. UNPLUG AND LISTEN TO YOURSELF
>>39245248I feel you, OP, and understand entirely where you are coming from. In fact, I'd say we are currently on a similar level. Beyond my teenage angst years of edgy atheistic rebellion, I eventually became more agnostic, but always keeping one toe in the waters of Christianity, while I explored other facets of spirituality, all that new age eshit, except with a focus on finding the most ancient sources. Think Kolbrin Bible and shit like that.I was raised in the Baptistbdemoninatuon for much of my young life from my mother's insistence, and my father is a hard headed atheist, so you can imagine my struggle in trying to discern what is actually true. But I always was drawn to Orthodoxy from when I first heard about it a decade ago. But I needed to see what the other stuff was about. I never got truly deep into any of it, like some people here or others who are dedicated in their practice.In any case, these past months, after an incident of chance encounter here, and in thenpursuitnif untangling it, I met an orthodox bro who ended up being the key to unlocking my situation with another. He was in the know, about all then4chan staples of conspiracy as well as the /x/ stuff. It was ultimately my encounter with him, and subsequent realization that he unwittingly provided me which finally began to illuminate my understanding, and started the stages of finally cracking my shell of resistance and uncertainty. What ultimately did it was when he gave me a book to read, which I just recently finished. It was a book entitled You Are Mine by a nun named Sister Anatasia. This book and her biographical experiences of being immersed in the pagan traditions, and especially Buddhism finally opened my eyes, and that an orthodox parish finally opened in my small town just early this year, all these things combined made me realize how God, and Christ truly works in the most subtlest of ways in unraveling those knots of sin and impurity..
>>39252897Ultimately my point here is that, I genuinely think Orthodoxy, for its worldly flaws, is the only true Christianity. It's not really even a "flavor", or "version" of Christianity. It just simply is Christianity. All else is Chistological religion separated from the truth, polluted with personal preferences, of approaching Christnas how they think he should be, rather than what and how he actually is. Not that I'm saying it's completely impossible to come to Christ through other demoniations, or even methods, but the chances are just much lower. Orthodoxy is the sanctuary and refuge of those who are truly seeking. Orthodoxy is spirituality. Everything else is religion. That's my take. A fellow member at my parish put it quite well when the discussion of the great schism came up. As far as Roman Catholicism goes, vs Eastern Orthodoxy, Catholicism is more akin to a courtroom, where you are judged and expected to change accordingly lest ye be damned, whereas Orthodoxy is more akin to a hospital, where the sick go to be healed, unconditionally and at their pace. That book was truly an eye opener for me, and I do certainly recommend it. It's recent too, just came out last year, so it is definitely relatable on a contemporary level. Of course, the writings and works of the saints and fathers are also there to be read and understood as well. Just know you're not alone here OP. One way or another, Christ will reach you if you truly seek, and allow him to work. His patience is unlimited, and love unconditional. Just check it out, and try to develop a personal relationship with your local parish or monastic head to help guide you on the path.
>>39248596>I asked God to give me strength and to help me get a relationship with him, and I said to myself that I'd let it come naturally rather than trying to force it like I was before. Do you have any advice for me? I grew up in a non-religious household but went to Catholic school and have Autism so feeling 'love' isn't something that happens very easily.Answering so you don't go ignored, but bear in my mind I am no expert, and my word should only be mulled over, not taken as spiritual fact.But as far as my own understanding goes, the path to Christ begins with the recognition of your unworthiness and the inherent desire, if not need for the denial of self. To understand that you are nothing, and that grace comes from God alone, no one or nowhere else. And to do this, you necessarily must suffer much, for it is through suffering that humility develops, and through humility you can begin to see just how utterly you fall short. You must seek out trials and tribulations, and accept them as they come. Overcome them if you can, but never allow failure to grow you resentful. That is what the enemy wants, fornyountonframe it in that way. Rather, frame it another way, that it is necessary so that you can begin to see yourself as God sees you.Pic related.
>>39252897I chose the Orthodox Church not for the sake of faith, as I explained I am technically atheist, but because I think it is the most logical choice.If the Abrahamic sect in fact is the right faith, I have only two choices left: to become a Christian or a sandnigger. I cannot be Jewish because I was not born Jew.And being very sincere, I will not give up all the culture and tradition of Christianity. It was thanks to the Catholic Church, especially that of Rome, that the whole West was built. Were it not for the Jesuits, even my country would have been founded. My country was literally founded through a Catholic Mass:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Mass_in_Brazil I have immense gratitude for the Catholic Church, not only because they discovered and catechized the niggers who lived in my country, but also because they founded the entire base on which the West sustained for two fucking millennia!If we take the apostolic tradition as an example, literally the people who walked with Jesus Christ, we will be as close as possible to Messiah's doctrine.You may say:>anon, why Orthodox instead of Roman?I am not a sedevacantist or anything, but the Roman church practices a mass clearly different from what you find in the older offices. You enter a Roman church and see liberation theology (literally communist propaganda), secular music rather than Gregorian chant, priests teaching heresies without even hesitate, etc. It's not that I think the current Pope is fake, I just think the Roman church is going through a difficult time, which I don't want to take part. In the Orthodox Church I can see a greater attachment to apostolic tradition, as well as a more conservative mass and without these modern theologies.I would see no problem in being a Roman Catholic, but since I have an option that seems to me more sane, why would you choose the problematic church? It is not like I would save the Roman Church, I am not revolutionary.
>>39245248just when you thought the christcuck threads died out...
>>39253459I think you're quite far along then, and that. Y continuing to go through the motions with deep desire, those motions will eventually turn into sincerity, as you begin to become more aware, especially with the influence of those around you. Christ is very much a personal realization, but the church is designed to help. Very few can do any of it truly solo start to finish. Even the Desert Ascetics belonged to a monastic order, so that should tell you something.I think if you keep along the path you're on, Anon, it will be revealed to you. For now, just keep going would be my advice. And talk to more people in this sphere.
>>39248399>the next stepYou think you’re so fucking smart right? I can just see some pseudointellectual reddit nerd typing this. I’ve looked into tons of other cultures, secret socities, history, philosophies and religions from all over the world, and I’ve tried my hardest to find something to latch on to. It’s all horseshit, nothing resonates with me, I feel nothing from the indian or asian traditions. I feel nothing from the emerald tablets. I feel nothing from tribal or pagan cultures and mysteries it’s all the same shit. I’ve tried countless times to reject or ’debunk’ the abrahamic religions but I can’t shake the thought that there’s something true in them. Now you might say: ”You’re brainwashed by abraham cult christcuck XD”I’ve done my research, I can come up with my own conclusions, I don’t need YOU to tell me what to think. Matter of fact, if you’re so smart and such a freethinker, tell me what’s the truth then?With that being said, of course you should be skeptical of organized religion, and so are most other people. That’s why there’s all of these people having conversations about it. There are also bible scholars, archeologists, conventionally smart people that have looked into these things. Hundreds of thousands of sources all come to the same conclusion (roughly).I think the story of Jesus is by far the greatest mystery of all mankind. Something about it just really resonates with me, and I can’t explain it. I also don’t need to explain it to you or anyone else for that matter.
