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Sun-Saturn Conjunction 11th house ruined my life...
>pic related also had one in the 9th
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context please
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Yeah, saturn ruins everything. Saturn is truly the worst
I can't find a wife or gf because saturn is stinking up one of those relationship/wife houses, I think even with uranus too... so I'm doomed to find a wife that's super fucking old (or super fucking young). As a result, I am 49 yrs and virgin.
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>>39254382
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>>39254373
Birthchart
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>>39254404
lol idk whether to be insulted or what
I am a failure though, that is for sure
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>>39254370
>mfw Saturn in Aries in 3rd squaring the Sun in Capricorn in 1st and opposing Mars in Libra
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How fucked am I? Saturn wise? I feel like my life has become much fucking harder once I started researching about Saturn, Saturn cults and symbols.
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>>39255967
Can you do this in wholesigns if possible?
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>>39255967
Saturn is fallen and retrograde BUT it trines very strongly with the Sun and it does not aspect any planet negatively. Your rewards will come later in life and you have the strength to overcome. As Saturn in Aries represents a master who is never satisfied with your progress, this also grants you wisdom and presumably brought you to the awareness of the occult significance of Saturn at all. Your Mars is also exalted which further adds to your strength (and conjuncts Venus, a very auspicious placement as Mars is friends with Venus and enemies with all the other planets).
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>>39255981
All I see is clusterfuck
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>>39255994
Interesting stuff anon. Thank you.
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Saturn is in the house of career and public life so you may occupy a loathsome position and be seen as a failure by worldly standards, but you are being crushed by pressure and being transformed from crude carbon into a diamond.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BXyEUOuNds
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>>39255994
Could you look at mine? I am OP. Feel impotent, and I think the democratic systems we have today are channelling Saturn more.
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>>39256041
Moon squares Mercury which means you are neurotic capricious and volatile, but it is in reception to Mercury by being in Virgo so it's not too bad. Venus trines Mars and is sextile with Jupiter which is very positive and you might find something forthcoming in regards to that in the future. Jupiter is scattered in airy Gemini so you feel lost at times, however you have Mercury in his sign in Gemini which means you are sharp and it conjuncts Jupiter which adds to your wisdom. Both also oppose Mars which means you are constantly refining wisdom through conflict and you might be very good at debates. Saturn conjunct Sun acts much like a fallen Saturn but it gives you wisdom through harsh experiences. Overall, a very bright person and not an NPC.
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>>39254382
Try Venus conjunct Algol AND Saturn in 7th house
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>>39256087
I think I will just commit crimes in foreign countries. The female must be made male.
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>>39256100
Algol is Pandora's Box, it offers very promising things that others do not have access to if you can handle it. Donald Trump has a prominent Algol placement and he nearly lost his head, and also has the ability to make others lose their heads.

>>39256105
That's Venus in Mars-ruled Aries in the 9th (foreign countries) and your Mercury oppose Mars speaking. I was going to say Mercury oppose Mars is an indicator for criminality and murderers.
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>>39256118
So how would you make the most of Algol conjunct Venus?
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>>39256126
Acquire an Algol talisman and begin a devotional practice to Algol. By befriending it the negative influences go away and it actually protects you instead. Algol is like a pitbull.
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>>39256118
What would you recommend for the solar, wholesome chungus path. I have 10th house lord in 9th and a packed 11th.
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>>39256142
Consider studying and practicing astrological magic and picrel. Christopher Warnock is a good start. By utilizing exalted planet talismans and remediation rituals you essentially create a "perfect" natal chart and all your problems should dissolve. You clearly have the aptitude for this given your brightness and inclination to astrology, the most profound science.
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>>39256140
And what’s the best remediation for Saturn in 7th house?
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>>39256161
Trapped in-between the dissolution of the immanent void, and the tyranny of the heavens. A curse.There is no dualism to this however, so I will hold to my Lovecrafian/Schopenhauerian view with roguish tendencies.
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>>39256175
Acquiring an exalted Jupiter or Venus talisman. Eventually you want to acquiring exalted talismans of all the planets which will eventually untangle all the troubles. There are also petitions but those are quite advanced and involve burnt offerings, not suitable for unlearned beginners. In fact petitions can go horribly wrong if you don't do it right and lead to death.
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>roguish tendencies.
Classic Mercury in a bad mood. An evil Mercury is THE rogue.
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I have sun-saturn in the 5th house
I think that's why I always struggle with lack of energy and joy
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>>39256201
Do you have a view on ethics, or some kind of cosmology?
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>>39256238
OP here, the way I consider it is that we are effectively "separated" on the caprice of the heavens dictates. We have to rely on our solitude and intellect to outwit the "The Will".
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Neoplatonist/Hermeticist (I also have Mercury conjunct my ascendant so I am extremely Mercury influenced). I will loredump some of my cosmology:
>I think, therefore, that those ancient sages, who sought to secure the presence of divine beings by the erection of shrines and statues,
showed insight into the nature of the All; they perceived that, though this Soul is everywhere tractable, its presence will be secured all the
more readily when an appropriate receptacle is elaborated, a place especially capable of receiving some portion or phase of it, something reproducing it, or representing it and serving like a mirror to catch an image of it.
>The concept of an image benefits from an understanding of both Plato and Aristotle's Theories of Forms. When a person recognizes a representation it is not a neurological reaction but in Plato especially it is a cosmic cascade which links the World of Forms with the Sublunar. This is the only way to draw down a spirit of time into matter, which is difficult and rare as they are of oppositional natures. Image is not just a euphemism for talisman but a link between magic and ancient cosmologies and theories of physics.
>Another somewhat more popular modern approach is to see the mechanism of astrology, magic and alchemy, as a sort of energy, field or magnetism, and to approach the Hermetic arts as simply another form of technology. Certainly the operation of interconnection and Cosmic sympathy has been seen in terms of rays and light, in Al-Kindi's Stellar Rays, for example, but this energy is spiritual and does not obey the laws governing matter and energy. The fact that spiritual energy acts at a distance, moves infinitely far instantaneously breaking the 186,000 miles per second limit of the speed of light and can be approach as either an impersonal force or a personality, means that it cannot be understood in the Modern World View.
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I feel sick. I hope it ends soon.
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>>39256087
>Venus trines Mars and is sextile with Jupiter which is very positive and you might find something forthcoming in regards to that in the future.

Why would that be? A transit I am unaware of? Pluto in Aquarius would not be relevant even if you consider the outer planets to be.

>>39256254
I have a few good Platonist friends, but and found myself syncing up well with them, but lament being absorbed into some totality.
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>>39256289
>A transit I am unaware of?
I don't know, I'm referring to the fact that Saturn causes delays. But there is something good going for you that may have not have revealed itself yet.
>but lament being absorbed into some totality.
The spirits maintain individuality in spite of having no energy or mass, so does our soul from the Anima Mundi. The Anima Mundi is already whole so it seeks to individualize itself to make something happen. Thus our individual souls, the spirits and the gods emerge.
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I want good sources for deliniation cookbooks (Must be traditional). Valens is fine but doesn't expand too much.



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