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Why do people get murdered? Also is there a religion that has proof that it's real, like let's say you do a thing that is part of that religion and then something happens and you see it.
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>>39255608
yes. But you would call person divine experiences nothing but "subjective" or "schizo"
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>>39255621
forgot picrel
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>>39255621
Person divine experiences? Is that like when you pray to God and then one day you feel his presence? I was thinking more like (this may sound stupid) a person leaves out a bucket of chicken then a fox spirit shows up and gives you luck
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>>39255654
He meant personal divine experiences
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>>39255654
>Is that like when you pray to God and then one day you feel his presence?
no. Its when people physically see jesus or mary appear to them in crowds or alone. There a million examples.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Our_Lady_of_Zeitoun
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>>39255654
Sure that kind of things happens in the animistic and pagan traditions like Shinto. I mainly work with subtle energy that you can feel, like chi and prana. Here's a simple exercise for feeling your chi: Rub your hands together for a few seconds, and then move them about 8 inches apart, facing each other, and slowly move them a couple of inches together and apart, and notice what happens.

What I always find is that this kind of stuff always borders on the explainable - at least at beginner levels, where it's still possible to believe that these phenomena are purely physical in nature. But the whole question becomes a matter of navigation - how far are you willing to believe? The most interesting thing to consider in this area is the placebo effect. Consider the following website: https://subtle.energy They sell products which you open on your desktop or put as your phone wallpaper, and they say that it gives you positive healing energy (or different flavours of energy or whatever). So, does it work only because you believe in it or does it "really" work? Well, consider the question of why something would work "only because you believe in it" in the first place. How could that possibly be the case unless our mental decisions had some kind of effect on the reality we perceive? There's your rabbit hole, now go have some fun!
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>>39255750
NTA but I guess that energy work alone can take you to far places, if directed properly. Most people think it's only good for healing and maintaining good health, or as a supplement in the "great work of enlightenment", but there's surely more to it. So much more. If everything is energy, then from one form you can learn others. If everything is energy, than the one who masters energy would become a literal god.
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>>39255783
Heck yeah. Anything can take you to far off places if you dedicate yourself properly be it the occult or politics or science or martial arts and more.
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>>39255608
>Why do people get murdered?
Evil, which is a necessary side effect of our having the ability to make choices.
>Also is there a religion that has proof that it's real, like let's say you do a thing that is part of that religion and then something happens and you see it.
Yeah, if you sincerely seek the truth it will be revealed to you.
>“Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. For everyone who asks receives, and the one who seeks finds, and to the one who knocks it will be opened."
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>>39255783
In my own work with energy, I have found that there are three basic factors to consider when attempting to figure it out. They are: form, kind and quantity.
Form is like, what shape the energy takes. A ball? A torus? Some kind of sacred geometric form? A crop circle? Because of E=mc^2, even material forms apply.
Kind is like, what's the quality of the energy? What kind of vibe does it give off? Is it fast and flowing, is it dark and crunchy, is it gendered, is it friendly, is it dominant, etc.
Quantity is like, how much of it is there? Could you imagine it multiplying? Is it strong? Is it easy to produce? Can you create stuff with it?
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>>39255608
Yes. Run this promotional code to get a discount at Alizondo's shop.
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>>39255608
>Is any religion real?

They're all real.
The proof must be experienced as it cannot be conveyed any other way.
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Tbh guys I would like to live a Ghibli movie for a day, one that doesn't involve murder or harm. So what can I do? How to see a dragon, spirit, creatures, and or whatever. Y'know what I mean
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>>39255608
>is there a religion that has proof that it's real, like let's say you do a thing that is part of that religion and then something happens and you see it
well you're not supposed to proceed with the orations of the ars notoria until the angels associated with it send you the go ahead in a dream
the book is 800 years old but the dreams still happen, Skinner got it and so did some redditors
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>>39257166
candle behind you, mirror in front of you, sit in the dark and call to the spirits. this one has been scientifically proven to work 22-50% of the time
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>>39258024
Psychomanteum Research: A Pilot Study
William G. Roll, Ph.D.
State University of West Georgia, Carrollton, GA
ABSTRACT: Fifty-seven persons participated in 31 workshops seeking visionary and other reunion experiences with departed loved ones by means of a mirror-gazing procedure developed by Raymond Moody (1992; Moody and
Perry, 1993). The study was an attempt to repeat Moody's findings, to alleviate the grief of the participants, and to explore psychological factors related to their experiences. Forty-one participants completed three questionnaires before the workshop: the Psi Experiences Questionnaire (PEQ), the Inventory of Childhood Memories and Imaginings (ICMI) (Wilson and Barber, 1983), and the Complex Partial Epilepsy Survey (CPES) Inventory of Common Experiences (Roberts, Varney, Hulbert, Paulson, Springer, Sheperd, Swan, Legrand, Harvey, and Steuben, 1990). Nine of the participants (22 percent) reported strong reunion experiences, compared to 50 percent of Moody's group. A positive relationship was found between reunion experiences during the workshop and reports of prior contact with the departed, as reported on the PEQ. The correlations with the ICMI and CPES were positive but insignificant.
>https://digital.library.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metadc799145/m2/1/high_res_d/vol22-no4-251.pdf
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>>39258024
Psychomanteum Research: Experiences and Effects on Bereavement
Arthur Hastings, Michael Hutton, et al.
William James Center for Consciousness Studies Institute of Transpersonal Psychology, Palo Alto, CA
ABSTRACT: A Psychomanteum Process involving mirror-gazing was conducted in a research setting to explore apparent facilitated contact with deceased friends and relatives, and to collect data on the phenomena, experiences, and effects on bereavement. A pilot study with five participants resulted in strong experiences and four apparent contacts. The main study took 27 participants through a three-stage process: remembering a deceased friend or relative, sitting in a darkened room gazing into a mirror while thinking of the person, and finally discussing and reflecting on the experience. Data were collected with pre- and post-questionnaires, a follow-up questionnaire at least four weeks after the session, interviews by the facilitators, and two personality measures, the Tellegen Absorption Scale and the Myers-Briggs Type Indicator. Contacts with the sought person were reported by 13 participants. Participants reported that a variety of imagery appeared in the mirror, as well as experiences of dialogue, sounds, light, body sensations, and smell. Several specific messages were reported by participants who believed that they were from the sought persons. Twenty-one self-report items relating to bereavement were analyzed for changes between pre- and follow-up questionnaires. Using a Wilcoxon signed ranks analysis, statistically significant reductions in bereavement responses were found over the entire group (p=.05 to .0008). These included unresolved feelings, loss, grief, guilt, sadness, and need to communicate. Participants also reported significant impact on their lives following the session.
>https://doi.org/10.2190/LV5G-E3JV-6CVT-FKN5
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>>39257166
>>39258031
>Nine of the participants (22 percent) reported strong reunion experiences, compared to 50 percent of Moody's group.
>>39258071
>Contacts with the sought person were reported by 13 participants.
wtaf this deserves its own thread
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>>39257993
Is that a video game or something people actually do?
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>>39255654
>I was thinking more like (this may sound stupid) a person leaves out a bucket of chicken then a fox spirit shows up and gives you luck
nigga is posting from his ger on the steppe
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>>39255621
If religion is the casus belli then it's not paranormal
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>>39255608
You can only accept the truth of the unseen if your soul is not blind. You blind your soul through persistant evil actions - conditooning your soul to reject anything that is true and beneficial if you cant see immediate selfish upsides to it. That is also referred to ad being "lost", and "deaf blind and dumb".

To see proofs of the unseen, you must ensure you have an open, but analyticsl mind. Force yourself to be unbiased and to suspend disbelief until you have collected sufficient proof that the faith is fundamentally either true or false.

The Qur'an is a whole book of proofs for God. Mathematical impossibilities, linguistic innovations, original concepts, and great spiritual potency. As long as you are serious about finding truth, you will not amything to defeat the Qur'an.

> why murder?

People have free will and can choose what they want to do from the options God makes available, even if its a choice that God tells them a thousand different ways beforhand is horrible and will ruin things for everyone.



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