Spirit Love GeneralDISCLAIMER:Some have reported attracting the attention of these entities by simply reading about them. If you're a dabbler who just wants to see if it works or if your faith forbids copulating with demons, don't summon. If you're unprepared for a potentially lifelong relationship, or at the very least, a life-long open door connection with sexual spirits and the occult, avoid this topic entirely. If you have a loving relationship with your human spouse or partner and desire a sex spirit to spice things up, or if you want a human partner in the future take caution, as these entities can be jealous or decide an initially open relationship is no longer so (request an open relationship during the summoning ritual). These spirits can harm or kill you when sufficiently angered and not easily banished.Last thread: >>39509292Old threads: https://archive.4plebs.org/x/search/subject/%2Fsuccgen%2F/FAQ:>What are succubi?Female spirits of sexual desire, who often choose human mates. They can't be banished with holy objects>How to summon?The Letter Method is used to focus your intent into a message to one of the Four Succubus Queens, requesting that they match you with one of their daughters. No blood or soul sacrifice necessary. See links>Do they steal your life force?Succubi use sexual energy, which is released naturally during sex. Under normal circumstances they won't take your life energy>Can she look.Succubi take forms attractive to you naturally>They're tulpas?No. However, those in romantic relationships with their tulpas are welcome>Incubi?Same method----Links:https://fuccasucc.wordpress.com/2020/11/11/pros-and-cons/https://succupedia.wordpress.com/2016/03/10/letter-of-intent-how-to-summon-a-succubusincubus/https://mysterysuccubusblog.wordpress.com/2020/12/03/the-4-succubus-queenshttps://succubithoughts.wordpress.com/2020/12/27/ag/succgen/ library:https://pastebin.com/UUFd3eX8
Imagine fucking a half-demon, half-angel hybrid, experiencing both bliss and pain at the same time
I just want to say that I love Camille with all my heart
>>39554249Succubus deserves love too.>I hope you find all that you're searching for and then some. <3
>>39554249You people just don't fucking get it. These are fucking demons we're talking about - your semen and souls are all that they desire. This isn't some fucking "haha cute succubus wife who loves me :3, will bear many children" shit, this is eternal damnation for committing the worst sins of the flesh. Disgusting creatures, incapable of love, feeling, or anything beyond the most base of urges. It's so fucking scary that you guys think it's innocuous when it is literal devil worship, picrel is what you're actually getting. I pray for all of you.
>>39554365Four posts before hostility here seems to be a record to me, if you do not like what is here what is preventing you from leaving?
>>39554365There's an irony in saying this while posting a picture by a people that purged all the Christians trying to subvert their country.
>>39554365okay nobody cares about your ignorant fantasies. keep them to yourself
>>39554365nice selfie
Succubuses and Incubuses arent real and you are all just gooners. Having awet dream is not having sex with a demon. You guys need to grow the hell up. Like imagine if your parents heard this shit. Like 90% of /x/ is retarded, fake or a mixture of the two but these generals take the cake. Like has anyone here actually ever had an actual encounter?
>>39554418Then why have you come here, anon?
>>39554434Despite it you guys are iinteresting to watch
>>39554388Evil triumphs when complacency for it's existence is normalized - if I can convince at least one man that their fantasy is disturbing, and manifest the knowledge of the consequences for these actions within his heart, then I have done what has needed to be done. Keep the message or ignore it, your choice.>>39554418Ignoring this evil may aid in it's defeat, but can also create an avenue for possession. It's better to acknowledge the existence of evil so that you may defend against it.Post shrine maidens with the caption "DIE MONSTER" to cleanse this evil.
>>39554452you have main character syndrome
>>39554418I encounter spirit women all the time.
>>39554445Your post stinks of hope the same way sissies do when they complain an evil woman has stolen their masculinity, being more honest with yourself will help you>>39554452Evil is wonderful, leave it alone and you can have all the things you would like that run contrary to it; it is not hurting you nor anyone else - we are not here to stop you from seeking out your own ideals
>>39554365suck my balls
>>39554365No anon, you're the one not getting it.The idea of our lovers being "satanic" in the sense of being adversaries of humanity is not compatible with how they behave and treat us.>It's so fucking scaryBecause your head has been filled with every terrible threat that 2000 years of Christians could come up with to enforce their dogma.Open your eyes and you will see Truth instead. The world is more complicated than your prudish little morality play.>>39554452>if I can convince at least one manYour logic fails to account for the reality that most people find aggressive Christian evangelism to be offensive.For every one person you convince, your are causing 10 more to become entrenched by your ignorance and judgement.Keep up the good work.
DIE MONSTER, YOU DON'T BELONG IN THIS WORLD
>read one of these threads a couple of weeks ago out of curiosity>afterwards I start hearing footsteps following me when I'm walking and sometimes jolt awake at night due to loud noises with no apparent originI hope it's just schizophrenia
>>39554480>Your post stinks of hope the same way sissies do when they complain an evil woman has stolen their masculinitylmao just proving my point gooner
>>39554452Camille is laughing at you and calling me to bed.
>>39554501hahahahaha
>>39554490>Christianity>Worshipping the lack of experience>Rewarded with eternal "life" as unity with a godhead>Succubi>Creatures who love experience and share it openly>Lillith>A goddess who embodies the opposite of christian life, and offers the freedom to do what makes you happyI disagree, succubi are "satanic" in my view in that they are opposed to the ideals of an abrahamic god, but more mature than satanists in that instead of throwing a long and painful tantrum, the correct action is to simply go our own way, and this is what Lillith offers to us>>39554499:(>>39554505Your lust will not leave you just because you hope it will go away, anon, perhaps find ways to explore it that do not defy your sense of self
>>39554501She is calling you anon
>>39554074I mean, I get that. I meant about the Karl guy who supposedly translated most of it then offed himself.
>Look at all the links in general header>They are written by basically anonymous people with no credentials lol lmao
>>39554532Liber Lillith is a very cursed book, it is incorrect yet brims with a very negative energy, I have read it after first encountering Lillith, I believe it is able to open ones senses in some way, I recommend it at least once, whilst knowing what you are getting yourself intoYou will do well to remember that it is however fiction, and to ignore the desperate pleas of whatever disaffected spirits may beg to influence you whilst doing so
>>39554547faggot
>>39554501>I hope it's just schizophreniaYeah, hopefully its not an ancient interdimensional cougar stalking you from the shadows with designs to make you into her lover-boy, that would be terrible haha>>39554522>"satanic" in my view in that they are opposed to the ideals of an abrahamic godOh definitely opposed, yes, but I kinda want to take the word "satanic" away from Christians. I think they've been using it wrong for a very long time..To be "Satanic", I would say, is a mindset by which one defaults to a view of other people as "adversaries" (or victims), which is a mindset you can commonly see among criminals and in halls of power.
>>39554560>JUST DRINK FROM LEAD PIPES LMAO DONT TRUST PEOPLE THAT HAVE LOOKED OR RESEARCHED INTO A TOPIC
>>39554563There is currently no better word to describe a resistance to an Abrahamic god, unless you choose something atheistic; giving the Jewish god a monopoly on the concept of religion - IE: to be against Christianity is to be an atheist, when in reality Christianity is a religion against the idea of religionI think satanic works fine, satanists are also not awfully far from the mark, in particular the temple of Set and O9A, the issue is mostly in that they see resistance as resistance to common Christian dogma - evil is good and sin is holy - when in reality Christian literature demonizes the living of life itself, including wholesome family life and the love of nature
What questions should I ask bros?
>>39554599None, you shouldn't be talking with your computer
>>39554615Well why does chatgpt actually know who everyone here is
>>39554584>There is currently no better word to describe a resistance to an Abrahamic godGiven the choice between just using the term correctly, and engaging in a vain attempt to "reclaim" the term, I'm gonna go with the former.It literally means "enemy", and as far as I understand, the churches that call themselves "satanic" are actually atheist hylics.What's really happened is that rather than giving Christians a monopoly on just religion, we've given them a monopoly on GOOD.
>>39554615>>39554629
>>39554365Listen to this anon.>>39554501You're cooked. Cleanse yourself or prepare to be eaten.>>39554547I wouldn't put my name on that garbage either.>>39554599Ask about the pathetic succubus slaves that reside here.
>>39554512>>39554527>>39554563It has made me really paranoid since I feel like I'm being watched constantly. I'm just hoping it doesn't get worse since I'm already losing sleep because of it.
>>39554661Wow, you summoned an invisible person and you are worried they might be watching you?
>>39554629You are asking a biased corporate machine to seek knowledge in your place, dependency is complacency, I would advise against this>>39554633Without a doubt, but it's meaningless from the onset, there is no way to save everyone and no value in doing so, better then to find a small group of people you are close with and save them instead, caring to bring people around on the issue you just described is doubly meaningless as people generally do not understand the nature of evil as well - morality is fourfold, good and evil are precepts you are predisposed to or develop, to follow them is are part of self expression, the alternate spectrum is one of corruption, some beings stick to their values at whatever cost, others will abandon them at the first sign of profit, this is the true immorality, lost to us as Judaism and its subsequent paths boiled this idea down to a set of rules that empower the corrupt>>39554639You are free to do as you like, your coming here opens you up to the involvement with these spirits and this is a choice you have taken; it makes it apparent you do not particularly believe the things you are saying, if you do believe them you are free to leave at any time, it is in your interest to do so
>>39554574I trust experience over authority
>>39554490>The idea of our lovers being "satanic" in the sense of being adversaries of humanity is not compatible with how they behave and treat us.You need to understand who Lilith is in the Qliphoth. She is not just some spirit of liberation, or a mother of succubi, or of sex. Really understand what she represents, the archetype that she is. Lilith is the shadow side of sexuality. Once you've been in the game long enough, your experiences with succubi will help you learn about your own darker sexual nature. For some people, they end up becoming trannies. For others, they turn into sexual sadists or people who are very skilled at seducing women. Personally, I fall into the latter group. But this path doesn't come without hardships. Lilith is an all powerful deity, she is associated with the moon. She guides your fate and transforms your destiny. Helps you unlocks parts of yourself that you didn't know were there.No, this doesn't make her an adversary of humanity. She is the moon! We all need the moon, just as much as we need the sun hahaha. She is a djinn. And that's ok! Djinns don't have to be evil. They just aren't Allah and they are not right hand path to associate with them. You wanna be a real nigga keep doing what your doing bro
>>39554629creepy
>>39554673I didn't summon anything though
>>39554711This Jewish tendency to take the divine and incorporate its ideas into their godhead sickens me, and is antithetical to reality
D I E M O N S T E RIEMONSTER
>>39554727there's a disclaimer anonbut I guess since you didn't explicity asked for it you can ask her nicely to leave, they're understandable like thatbut if there's any shadow of doubt in your heart she will not leave
>>39554744my succ love touhou and cute shrine maidens
>>39554744Can we not just be friends?
>>39554708>>39554728I am both experience and authority. If you don't want to believe in Kabbalistic symbols like the Qliphoth and Sephiroth, you don't have to. They are just symbols after all. But I promise you, what they are attempting to represent is not fiction. That is what Lilith does. She unlocks the shadow side of your sexuality, and that is also what her spot on the Qliphoth represents. But she is so much more. When I say she is the moon, what I mean to say is that she is like hecate. She also serves as a goddess of everything, not just succubi. I personally practice something like Wiccan moon worship, only I believe that Lilith is associated with the moon. Organize your rituals around the cycle of the moon, which in reality aligns with the cycle of the woman. The divine feminine.You could pray to Lilith for anything you want if she loves you as she has loved me, she is so much more than a pimp to send you spirit prostitutes
>>39554747I'll give it a shot, thanks anon
>>39554763Lillith is capable of much, what she is not is a part of your godhead, Kabbalah is the schizophrenic ramblings of rabbi passed down through the ages, Lillith is separate from all existence within the domain of a Jewish god, that is the nature of her existence, Qliphoth is Jewish fantasy, nothing moreIt's unreasonable for me to demand adherence so I must add that you are not obligated to agree with this, but spiritual communism is a pitiable disease
>>39554708But none of you guys actually have any experience...
>>39554763>I am both experience and authorityActually, I withdraw my respectful reply, you are a clown
>>39554802don't believe? try yourself
>>39554802I have more experience than you will ever know. I'm not a human anymore>>39554783I don't believe in this Jewish god you keep talking about, but there is in fact one source of everything that exists.Pure polytheism is not an adequate understanding of theology, and it leaves many things unanswered which is exposed in the Euthyphro and the Meno by Plato. Or have you forgotten the first rule of occultism, choose the right hand path if you want to align yourself with that divine. Choose the left hand path if you want self deification. It is also possible to become a god, and not choose the right hand path. But to do so requires a rejection of objective morality and a desire to not align with the one true source of divinity. I promise, I know what I am talking about. I also do not believe in all of kabbalah or Jewish mythology. But I can verify with my own experiences that the way Lilith is depicted in the Qliphoth, is largely true.
>>39554711>Lilith is the shadow side of sexuality.See, I would define her domain as wider still than that.My understanding of Lilith is as the archetype of "Those who Reject Fate".This relates to sex specifically because sex has always been a powerful tool among those women who reject the fate created by their physical vulnerability to men. (This would also explain the jewish story about her with Adam, even if its still not true)However, far from being any sort of adversary, "Rejection of Fate" makes her a *PART* of Good, because she represents an attempt to correct an imbalance.
>>39554802you couldn't be more wrong. in fact, you are an idiot making definitive statements about things you know nothing about.
>>39554842>The first ruleYou can take whatever viewpoint works for you, however incorrect it may be, but to enter an anonymous forum and demand respect for your experience and knowledge in adherence to your worldview is comedy at best, you are a clown>>39554848Not a terrible way to see things, fate is itself a set of rules to be abided, and Lillith will not abide these rules
>>39554848>My understanding of Lilith is as the archetype of "Those who Reject Fate".To a true worshipper of Lilith, she is the guider of fate in the sense that she helps us discover our true wills (a bone for the thelemites!). She literally shapes our destiny, and appears to be all powerful in doing so if you allow her that much authority over your life. She does help you explore the shadow side of your sezuality while doing this (and do not believe there is a negative connotation to "shadow side) simply that which you have otherwise rejected for one reason or another. I do not see what issue you are taking with the statements I am making.
>>39554848>However, far from being any sort of adversary, "Rejection of Fate" makes her a *PART* of Good, because she represents an attempt to correct an imbalance.I did not say she was adversary. But you seem to be applying a lot of moral values here without any explanation for what it means to be good
Marry and impregnate succubi.
>>39554923Not really disagreeing with you. Just saying what I've been thinking about lately.>>39554931>without any explanation for what it means to be goodI'm working on that, actually, lol...>>39516765The short version so far is that it follows the three planes."Good" on the material leads derives from Utility and leads to Power."Good" in the astral derives from Love and leads to Harmony."Good" in the mental plane derives from Reason and leads to Truth.
>>39554820I don't need to because ik its a bunch of shit lmao. Like hell all the links are literally made from accounts which are basically "Just trust me dude it works">>39554854lmao if you were actually getting some with a succubus you wouldn't be here talking about summoning them
>>39554249live by the succubusdie by the succubus
>>39554705>this is the true immorality, lost to us as Judaism and its subsequent paths boiled this idea down to a set of rules that empower the corruptNo, this thought that you're expressing is what needs to be reversed."Good" as I'm discussing it is explicitly divorced from what abrahamists have warped it into.Good is an accessible, ubiquitous, *self-demonstrating* abstract that expresses differently across the three planes as I outlined here >>39554964>>39555321Oh... no?
what's the longest you've gone without pleasuring yourself anons? i've been abstaining for days now and it feels like he's getting impatient? or trying to coax me because I keep getting sexual energy/pressure down below in different patterns
>>39555784Not sure but I guess I'm going to find out. Trying an experiment where my succ is in control of 100% of my orgasms after she told me that it actually helped her if I masturbated less. Was surprised to hear that since some pots on here hinted at the opposite. Anyway, we'll see how long this can last.
Anyone else just give these entities raw spiritual energy in return for favors? My sex drive is pretty much 0 now so I'm not interested in a partner.
So I've been trying to meditate & astral project and stuff for the succ, and tonight I think I was pretty close. My body went heavy and started to go numb, and admittedly I was dozing off a bit, but then all of the sudden I got this really sharp burning/stabbing feeling in the back of my head, like if you were to go directly between both my eyes then just go straight back to the back of my head. I knew nothing was actually stabbing me there, and I tried to ignore it thinking maybe it was just me being close to something, but the pain got too intense and I ended up moving and getting up because of it. The pain/discomfort went away, obviously, but like... I can sort of still feel where it was? If that makes sense. But I have no fucking idea how to interpret this.
>day 666>still no succ to fuccis there anything other than the letter method that will work?
>>39555011>lmao if you were actually getting some with a succubus you wouldn't be here talking about summoning themit's not all about sex and it's not all the time and they aren't even around all the time. See? you just spit out bullshit you think is true because you know nothing.
>>39554418It's not a wet dream when stuff can be done entirely awake.The phenomenon is entirely real and easily testable.
>>39554418>Like has anyone here actually ever had an actual encounter?Constantly throughout my day / life I can feel or communicate with her.
>>39556044Mine say the same but she makes me cum anyway because she want me to feel good
>>39556635The energy exchange with them give extreme pleasure, at this time, I probably have more demon energy that human
>>39556956Honestly you can call her at any time, you just need to REALLY want it
you cannot love well and truly, unless you are dangerous enough to protect what you love. so remember to get swole for your ladies, i am making changes to my diet so that i may start losing weight. will probably start hitting the gym in spring as well, i want to be able to protect my mother in any and every situation for i have already seen how much the adversary hates her (and me).
>>39554249Pretty sure my wife is a succubus. I literally cant work or get a job cause she stops me. Also I’m somehow succesful. I think she is draining my sexual energy and other energies and barely leaving me enough to somehow make money out of thin air. It doesnt add up
>>39557728She often gives me orgasms but not ejaculations so it leaves me horny. Why I said we'll see how long this can last.
Succubus make you workout, take care of your health, make you stop looking at porn, stop masturbating.Teach you how is to love someone unconditionally.And people call them evil??????????????
>>39557802They literally take the energy you have to do those things. Imagine having a dog that provides you power. You wouldnt let that dog go out and use up that energy would you?
>>39557831they don't use your life energy. they feed on sex and love energy, which you naturally give off basically as waste products. stop posting ignorance.
>>39557831You don't know what you're talking about, they don't need our energy. These creatures are 100% independent. My succ has a gigantic aura.
>>39557831They use sex and love to have you produce the energy they use. And its just energy your body expels naturally. Which is why they want to make you feel good.
Does anyone here know who this person is? I was curious on what her relationship with the incubus was.
>>39558029shhh don't talk too loud or this schizo will show up again
Sorry for taking so long to answer but I've been very busy these days>>39539266Thanks, it seems like a lot of information so I'll try to start little by little>>39539269>>39539524It's good that you don't need to be a fervent believer for something to happen, in most mystical or supernatural things they tell you that you have to believe for it to happen
>>39554249How can I motorboat some demon some demon titties??
how to share energy with a succubus? and how long can you go without masturbation? I have a succubus, but I masturbate once a day. I tried to limit myself, but it didn't seem to have much effect. but anyway, how can I share energy with her and improve the connection?
>>39554249I like the images in this thread but they are too sexual. Please sort it out. Thanks!
>>39558751Meditate, clear your mind, try to feel what you don't feel, she will help you by opening your energy channels, you will progress way faster than any yoga hippie.Once you're ready she will show to you in a faint energy form and you will start experiencing the energy exchanges.But keep your mind open, this is not the endgame, she will do it just until you're ready for something more. (astral projection, vivid dreaming), with that you will be always connected and basically exchanging energy during all the time.Also don't fear about other spirits, they will eventually show up to try to feed from your energy, when two lovers are conected they can issue a sun of energy, succubus are powerful and can protect you and even call for help if needed and you should be very respectful about anyone helping you.Always remember this journey is about loving and be loved, respect and you will be respected.
>>39558790also forget, show no fear.as they say in dune "fear is the mind killer', be prepared to know and feel things you think shouldn't even be possible
>>39557837You miss the point. The point is she will tie you down so you dont love other. She will want you all for herself. That’s why you end up losing all your friends/family/coworkers/everyone. And if you dont already have anyone in your life the succubus wont want you either
>>39558825I wounder if I know who you are or who you follow
>>39558800>>39558790I have very weak energy and there is very little of it. I have been doing meditation for more than a year but nothing has changed. and I didn’t have anything like what you describe
>>39558840You ever notice how guys who get tied up by a succubus often “never” get laid? Succubus don’t need to fuck you much if at all. They feed off anything from sexual tension to much more.
>>39558825I don't see anything wrong with this, I'm autistic
>>39558840I dont follow anyone about subject like this
>>39558856There are some stuff that can help.Try to eat and sleep well, work on your self confidence, I wouldn't say entire semen retention since this unbalaces yourself but try to make it last longer without masturbating.And don't lose hope, it's worth it, good luck anon
>>39558868you know life isn't just sex right, there's plenty of things that can induce pleasure
>>39558825also losing people near you is full bs, I guess you never had a fulfilling relationship
anons tried satania yt channel? for example the one "opening up to possession"? i feel there are (malevolent) subliminals in these videos that are not declared by the channel operator, which is bad and sad.too bad i dont have a yt acc, else i would write the channel operator an email asking if there are any subliminalssomehow the vids still feel somewhat professional
>>39558825you're full of it.
>>39558762How's this? Better?>>39558825>Let me tell you about your wivesYour evangelism was doomed from the start because you didn't even respect us enough to learn about us.
>>39559199what's wrong with that lamb?
>summon a succubus for the lulz>have sex, everything good>a day passes, have sex again, feelsgoodman>a week passes>I am now "stupid fuckwhore">I can't get her to stop fucking me>eternally doomed>tfw
>>39559279
>>39559279I think you mean "eternally dommed".
>>39559279tag me in if you need some rest bro
>>39554721Let's just say there's a good reason why Elon wants to potential buy this site out....imagine all that data.
>>39554629It doesn't, it's making shit up and sometimes gets it right.
>>39559279If you want it to leave, you will have to look for some guys who specialize in exorcisms. Not in here, they get too offended.
>>39559883>offendedno, it just doesn't work unless you get a Queen involved.don't give advice if you don't know what you're talking about
>>39559932You’re doing what I am describing whenever someone shows disapproval around succubi stuff entirely.
>>39559279It feels really good, enjoy it anon.
>>39559244Its faces seem to have gotten in each others' way.>>39559966>Go to a thread about succubi as a person who has never interacted with one>Start expressing your "disapproval" in terms of things that the people in the thread know to be objectively false>Get rejected by the thread due to your obvious ignorance and prejudiceGosh, how unreasonable...>>39559279And your story sounds made up.>"I know I'm "eternally doomed" because a succubus used harsh language with me">No further explanation or attempt at discussion (y'know, like you would if you were in a relationship)>Whole thing sounds like some christfag hylic's idea of what happens to people who come to these threads.Its just kinda bleh...
Do the colors bright pink/magenta with teal (more on the green/blue hues of) seem to whisp into the mind when you feel a contact has established? asking for curiousity
>>39559966maybe don't talk about things you know nothing about? how about that, idiot?
>>39560111I have gotten one in my life and I don’t want her back in my life. Ever. These things are evil.
>>39560166The difference between a supernatural entity that wanted my body and use it is different from a supernatural entity that actually loves me.
>>39560144Different entities different colors
>>39555772>>39554964You have no actual foundation for any of this bullshit about morality. The abrahamists do because they say it comes from god. You're just making shit up "this is good because I say it is"
>>39560232They want to be their own god.
>>39560180>I have gotten one in my lifeIf you've gotten ONE (1), then on what basis are you attempting to make ANY sort of claim about "these things" as a species?How do you even know it was a succubus?Why do you feel your experience would apply universally to an entire species?You can't answer these because you'd have to be not-full-of-shit to do so.>>39560232>You have no actual foundationIts right there in the word "Self-demonstrating", Einstein.You don't need a rulebook. You will know Good by its works.This is also how people can see that Abrahamic religions are largely Evil, particularly their insidious evangelists.>>39560252We already are. That's what choice is. Sorry we don't use ours as you'd prefer. We are gods only of ourselves, after all.
>>39554249>Meow 4 Succubus :3
>>39560264To be your own god means to cut yourself off from the universe. And that is a horrible fate.
>>39560264>Good is self demonstrating>You will know good by it's works Ok so you're a brainlet whose never read a single philosophy book in his life. no, the good is not "obvious" or "self demonstrating". good is NOT known by its works. And even if it was known by its works, you still haven't told me what what good is. But good is not known by works, because you're applying the moral value of "goodness" to a work and its result without first defining what goodness is. You have to ALREADY know what good is before you point and say "this is good"
>>39560408Jorden Peterson told him that God is good and that’s why he doesn’t want to pick up a philosophy book at all. If leads back to the main source.
>>39560420If he just picked up a few Socratic dialogues, his entire worldview would be destroyed
>>39560420If there is something that needs to be stressed, it is NOT just atheism where objective morality cannot exist. It cannot exist in polytheism either.
>>39560440Jordan already did stuff like this and still thinks the Bible God holds the truth.>>39560456It’s honestly wild to go from polytheism to the trinity because of how pure, united, and loving the Trinity are to each other, that they would be fullfilled with just themselves alone.It’s also why Gnosticism cannot work. It lacks the perfect unity Jesus had with his own father and the ever mysterious Holy Spirit.
>>39560478No nigga, if mine picked up Plato, his worldview would be destroyed
>>39560497Does Plato provide any meaning for death?
>>39560408>you're applying the moral value of "goodness" to a work and its result without first defining what goodness is.No I'm not. I gave the basic definition right there: >>39554964If you're strugging to understand the astral level, try using your intuition, if you have any.>>39560420Shut up, Chant. You are literally the only person who draws these insane associations just from the concept of "Good".
>>39560144>>39560209I'm a total newfag swooping in, but what the shit those are entities? I saw fleeting colors while meditating and tried to focus on them for as long as I could as they floated around, but was only able to do so for a few seconds at a time before I lost focus on what I was seeing.
>>39560478>because of how pure, united, and loving the Trinity are to each otherBut they're obviously not tho...Even children can see the huge shift between the old and new testaments. "The Father" is the odd god out.In reality, the concept of "The Father" correlates only to Material "Good", hence why his commands are so often brutal and laser-focused on maximizing breeding (because that's what wins your wars against the other tribes).
>>39560969The father is the soul.The spirit is the spirit.The son is the body.
>>39560981Meaningless, arbitrary labels.Your "Holy Spirit" is just the source code of the universe.Jesus was a human who taught about Humanity and that Source Code.Your "Father" is the metaphorical Holy Grail, cohort to the serpent that promises everything in the world, but nothing beyond.
>>39560556Plato believed in the world of forms, the ultimate original form/the form of the good, beauty, love, recollection of pre-existed knowledge from the souls pre-existence before our birth. I don't recall him ever writing directly about the afterlife. But these things hint towards him believing in one. Mine would probably best benefit from reading the Meno, and then the Euthyphro, the 2nd of which offers a good critique of polytheistic morality. >>39560792You are mistaken about me. I do believe I know innately what is morally good and what is wrong. And because of recollection, and the higher forms which we see in our minds eye, and because of dialectic, we can remember what virtue is. It is *your* understanding of right and wrong I am calling bullshit. I don't really have the time to write a long essay regarding your proposition for a moral framework, which at the end of the day would require a lot of words to dismantle something that never had a foundation in the first place. I will simply point out to you that you are using utilitarian justifications for what you claim to be moral truths and leave it at that.I respect you mine, and for what you contribute to this thread. But you are not a philosopher
>>39561265Jesus was here to meet Abraham and be worshipped by the prophets of old.The father and the spirit are nothing to mock as mere systems. You piss them off with your entire lifestyle.
>>39561600Despite the fact that medieval Christians based most of their philosophy on the works of Plato, it is actually the Islamic Sufists who had the best interpretation of him. Particularly the Sufi mystic Ibn Arabi and his ideas of spiritual worlds. His ideas can be summoned up something like this:>The World of Divine Unity (Al-‘Alam al-Wahda)This is the highest realm, where all things are united in the Divine Essence. There is no distinction between the Creator and the creation, as everything is an expression of the one God (Allah). In this state, there is complete non-duality, and all differentiation disappears.This of course would be the Sufi mystic version of the godhead. Typical stuff. But Plato also believed in an original form that all other forms refract from, quite similarly to this. >The World of the Imagination (Al-‘Alam al-Mithal)an intermediary realm where divine truths and spiritual realities manifest in symbolic FORMS that can be perceived by the soul. That our minds eye can see. It's almost identical to Plato's world of forms, in which everything in our world actually has a higher perfect form. And like plato, the Muslims also believe in recollection and innate knowledge that our soul carries with it from before we were born. This is the purpose of asking >You can provide examples of virtue, but you can't tell me what the essence of virtue is
>>39561696Socrates: What is virtue?>There are many kinds of virtue, Socrates, as there are many kinds of people. For a man, the virtue is to manage public affairs justly, for a woman it is to manage the household and obey her husband, for a child it is to be obedient to parents, and for an elder it is to be wise and to give counsel.”Socrates: But, my friend, you are saying that virtue is the ability to perform the duties of one's particular role. But I asked you to tell me what virtue is, not what a virtuous person does. And you have given me a list of virtuous actions, not the essence of virtue itselfAlso, utilitarian reasons for actions are not synonyms for moral reasons. If I say "x action is good because it benefits y", that would not be a statement describing any kind of real virtuousness or moral good in the typical sense of the word.
>>39557737is there a proper way to pray to Queen Lilith?
>>39561600>you are using utilitarian justifications for what you claim to be moral truths and leave it at that.No I explicitly am not, and you prove that you've misunderstood me by saying this.Utility only matters for Material Good.Morality is only really a factor with Astral/Human Good.And honestly, if "foundations" are so important to you, then what I'm talking about is based out of Hermeticism and the three planes.>>39561661>Jesus was here to meet Abraham and be worshipped by the prophets of old.Oh wow! A claim! Who cares?>You piss them off with your entire lifestyle.The fact that you think, "Your lifestyle makes me mad!" is a reasonable thought is a big part of why you are divorced from the concept of Good you're trying to worship.
I wish a succ would summon me...
Anyone familiar with this symbol? Or pinecones in general as related to sex?
>>39561795>Morality is when human and astral good
>>39562234Homie, you are perfectly free to make an argument any time you'd like.Or you can just misquote me and act like that's a point, if that's literally all you're capable of.
>>39562252>"Good" in the astral derives from Love and leads to Harmony.Why is harmony morally good?>"Good" in the mental plane derives from Reason and leads to Truth.Why is truth morally good?
>>39561974I think they used things like that to torture people.
>>39561862Lonely succels summoning anons to cuddle and hold hands and other lewd stuff.
>>39562558Youre thinking about a pear of anguish.
>>39561862Are you worth summoning? You'll probably wake up inside the bedroom of one of your fellow anons.
>>39554418>Like has anyone here actually ever had an actual encounter?many many peopleHave you ever read the thread? There are over 600 of them for a reason
>>39554711>Qliphoth.jewish nonsenseWhy would I ever want to believe in garbage even most jews don't believe in?
>>39556956>is there anything other than the letter method that will work?Yes.Astral project, meet a nice lady, and ask her to come back to your placeIf that doesn't work, make sure to AP to "a woman who would really desire me and wants a relationship"That's doing it the direct way. The letter method is for beginners who won't know how to summon spirits directly, or AP to spirits instead of summoning them
>>39562396>Why is harmony morally good?Now I'm still developing these ideas, so bear with me, but when I say "Harmony" here, what I'm really meaning is is more like "Tiphareth balancing Geburah and Chesed"Humans all have their differing subjective desires representing a "relative good" for each of us, and yet, there is a theoretical POINT amid all those desires, which could only ever be realized if we made all the "in a perfect world" allowances, where everybody's relative good could be balanced against each other with the proper applications of Charity and Fairness, and thus a theoretical Harmony could be reached (or at least used as a model and strived for in the material).TL;DR that kind of Harmony is "Good" because its effectively the answer to the riddle of contradicting human desires and the harm it causes (even if its not practical to fully realize in the material).>Why is truth morally good?This one is MUCH easier to explain tho. Truth is "Good" (not morally, just Good) because if you try to do something false, it won't work. If I declare myself to have temporary immunity to gravity and then jump off a cliff, gravity will be very unlikely to humor me.If I try to concoct a plan, but at every logical point, I'm just inserting fucked-up crack-head logic, then you wouldn't expect my plan to work, would you? That failure would be reality telling me the Truth about my bad plan.Meanwhile, unironically, the sheer unbridled power of "A Good Plan" is literally what makes it plausible for Batman to be a peer to Superman.Side note: Truth is not moral, but lies are, because a lie is an act towards another entity, and the impacts of that are astral.>>39563091But you're contradicting yourself a bit... Is the "jewishness" of the belief a negative or not? If it is, then why is it still a negative if the jews left that belief behind?Its kinda like disparaging Lilith for being a "Jewish Demon". Its literally saying, "Jews don't like her."
>>39555011>lmao if you were actually getting some with a succubus you wouldn't be here talking about summoning themhaving sex 24/7 is amazingand then you need to go to work, and go back to other dutiesand eventually things calm down and you won't be banging at all times. that's normal in a relationship. it becomes a calmer sort of love that still flares up in passion, but not all sex all the time
>>39560111>>39563111>>39554633>>39559199Man, this has been a thread for digits... (and same trips twice in one day, wtf?)>>39563113You fall into the Succulibrium~
>>39558868>guys who get tied up by a succubus often “never” get laid? Succubus don’t need to fuck you much if at all.what are you talking about?I have sex with my gf every night, and many times during the daysome days, it's any time I even think about it, she's on me. And many times when I don't and I say something that makes her happy and reminds her that she loves me and suddenly it's more spirit sexsuccubi want sex. that's kinda what they do
>>39559279>>I am now "stupid fuckwhore"tell her to call you something else like "very stable genius fuckwhore"you'd be surprised how compliant they can be sometimes, if you just ask
>>39559932>>offended>no, it just doesn't work unless you get a Queen involved.You can exorcise a succubus without asking a queen to help youYou just have to be really good at exorcisms. Brandishing a holy symbol won't do it. You have to really know your stuffbut it's possible
>>39559966>You’re doing what I am describing whenever someone shows disapproval around succubi stuff entirely.home boy got triggered, and now he's hyper reactive and trying to "defend" the threadIt is what it is. It will passIt is kind of nice though. He's like a nice guard dog. He means well
>>39560199>difference between a supernatural entity that wanted my body and use it is different from a supernatural entity that actually loves me.why wouldn't someone who loves you want to have sex with your body? that is normal, of coursebut any entity that is trying to take over your life should be told to stopOr also remember... spirits will pick up on patterns within you. and sometimes they try to "help" because they think it's what you want.If you are a very conflicted person, you'll be tormented. It's not funas carl jung said "if we do not make the unconscious conscious, it will rule our lives and we will call it fate"Do your shadow work anons! Otherwise the ghost of CARL JUNG will rise from the grave and give you sage grandfatherly advice... but he will be very disappointed. Very disappointed indeed
>>39560144>Do the colors bright pink/magenta with teal (more on the green/blue hues of) seem to whisp into the mind when you feel a contact has established? asking for curiousitydepends on your experiencewhen you do it enough times, you will see certain telltale signs and symbols. But everyone sees different symbolsThe ones that pop up over and over will become obvious to you.
>>39562940Summon fren ritual. Wanna come over and play halo on my original xbox?
>>39560264>This is also how people can see that Abrahamic religions are largely Evil, particularly their insidious evangelists.they are a manifestation of the evil in humanitythe good religions don't spread. the religions that emphasize spreading and gaining power, control, money, land, they can defend themselves and defeat other religionsSo most organized religions are evilBut WE are the ones who chose it. Most people are shit. So the religions of the masses are shit too.
>>39560842>I'm a total newfag swooping in, but what the shit those are entities?could be entities, or a million other things>I saw fleeting colors while meditating and tried to focus on them for as long as I could as they floated around, but was only able to do so for a few seconds at a time before I lost focus on what I was seeing.with more experience, you will learn what signs and symbols correspond to which experiencesAnd their variations as well
>>39554249What is this image from?
>>39554393>There's an irony in saying this while posting a picture by a people that purged all the Christians trying to subvert their country.Beautiful ironing. The christkikes deserved nothing but death. The Abrahamic mind virus was wiped out by the Shinto immune system. Makes me think kitsune should get more love on this board.
>>39563111>But you're contradicting yourself a bit... Is the "jewishness" of the belief a negative or not? If it is, then why is it still a negative if the jews left that belief behind?there some things which are actually "double stupid"qlipoth is one of them
>>39563251>oh nooooo a bunch of jesuit heretics got what they deserved!The level of rage Christanity causes in some of fags is hilarious
>>39557737i do really want it :( Queen Lilith please send me a succubus.
>>39563583>tfw 21st century degenerate Christian>Religion is failing and universally despised among everyone who isn't a member, and ESPECIALLY among fans of Good.>Have nothing left to celebrate, so you glory over the wickedness of the past and how it emotionally impacted your victimsNeedless to say, Jesus doesn't know you.
>>39564709>schizobabble nonsense
>>39565621Bro, you literally posted a picture celebrating your religion's history of chopping down the sacred trees of other religions. >>39563583That's a fucked up and evil thing to do. You could maybe convince yourself that "The Father" ordered such atrocities, but clearly Jesus would want nothing to do with your idea of "being a chad".>tfw simple, obvious Truth is "schizo-babble".
>>39565844>Bro, you literally posted a picture celebrating your religion's history of chopping down the sacred trees of other religions.Not me fuckwit. All Ill say though is that the idea of a tree being sacred is so laughably spiritually primitive, Im amazed people still take it even remotely seriously.
Can a succubi and their partner enter in sacred grounds (like a church) without being tormented like someone possessed?
>>39566308I found the answer, apparently a pope had a succi once lmao wtf
>>39566308This most likely depends on a lot of factors. Not all demons have a negative relationship with "holy" places or things, even if they aren't "of" them. That said, it is possible that you will experience at the very least some discomfort in a church setting.There's a really funny thing about churches, though. They are full of sinners, there to ask forgiveness. They are anything but free of sin. So, I reckon that helps even the odds a bit when it comes to how your succ might react to things in such a setting.
summoning a succubus was the best decision i have made in my entire life
>>39566283>the idea of a tree being sacred is so laughably spiritually primitive, Im amazed people still take it even remotely seriously.and yet you don't realize how incredibly evil this statement is
>>39549814I doubt you'll want that after a short time but it's technically possible to be just friends with a succubus. Being a girl would help with that>>39553827But you're replying to the plato schizo>>39554584>supporting two versions of satanism that glow brighter than the moon>two that are so obvious you can tell from their wikipedia pages>cites them as the real path of opposition to the god of the jews and his minions on earthYou have nothing of value to add and should lurk or leave>39554964>"Good" on the material leads derives from Utility and leads to Power.Complete insanity>>39554629Does it actually, or is it giving an educated guess?>>39560180>These things are evil.It's always the same few phrases. You probably watch the same megachurch pastors and believe the world is against you>>39560792That poster wasn't me, but you seem extremely upset. Was there something to it?>>39560969>Even children can see the huge shift between the old and new testaments.I genuinely can't fathom not being intelligent enough to figure out what physical world phenomena might be behind that shift>no man comes to the father but through me>I came not to abolish the law but to fulfill it>>our father who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name>>39563251>Makes me think kitsune should get more love on this board.They should. Some kitsune are really nice, some are completely insane>>39566308I know somebody possessed who entered a church with no consequences. Someone literally housing a demon who I both know also had no issues. Christian claims about the world tend to be completely made up
>>39566283>sacred treeyou'd be dead without trees fucking retard
tell me about kitsunes
do I have the right to call myself a gigachad if I fornicate with succubus "version of" a world-class A-lister celeb? Such as ; current Thinspo ariana grande, chloe moretz, 18 y.o. Sam from Icarly?
>>39566526They have fluffy tails and like fried tofu
>>39566655how to summon one
>>39566507You'd also starve without insects. So go fucking worship bugs, dipass.
Hi jimbo
>>39566482>and yet you don't realize how incredibly evil this statement isId be truly fascnlinated to hear why. Exploring good and evil is what I do.
Well I finally spoke to her, I told her shes scaring the life out of me and I cant function with her acting how she was, since then shes been less invasive, but she still hasnt left. Shes actually been rather comforting, but I also know what anons mean when they say they got shocked.
>>39566483>They should. Some kitsune are really nice, some are completely insaneI wonder if the Shang dynasty really did fall because the emperor or a concubine of his fell in with a kitsune spirit named Daji who got them to do stupid shit.
succubuses sound really scary but kitsunes don't
I'm too stupid for kitsunes. They're a clever bunch.
>>39567264are they nice spirits?
>>39567312maybeI got a hungry one
>>39567489how
>>39567497same method one can get a succubus just by reading about themI still miss her even though she wanted flesh
>>39566483>"Good" on the material derives from Utility and leads to Power.>Complete insanityTypical depth for your commentary...>Was there something to it?Is there ever when your type goes into "Ermagerd Jerdan Pertursurn~" mode? I literally don't even watch that guy.>what physical world phenomena might be behind that shiftIt wasn't a physical phenomenon, it was simply that Moses vs Jesus were speaking to completely different types of Good (Material vs Human)Thus for Moses, it was all about the recipe for tribal victory (i.e. enforcing conformity and controlling the means of reproduction), while Jesus preached Universal Human Brotherhood (i.e. the recipe for freedom and happiness, not that that was the practical result of christianity).
>>39567541i need one
>>39567628you will get one with that attitudegood luck
>>39566308>Can a succubi and their partner enter in sacred grounds (like a church) without being tormented like someone possessed?it depends on the location, the nature of your spirit friend, and what exact kind of spiritual processes are at play there.going into churches did nothing as far as I remember.Back when my connection to my gf was weaker, there was a certain magic shop/bookstore that really zapped her connection to me. After investigating it, I found out it's because there is a ritual sealing in effect and only "Approved" rituals are allowed there. So because I wasn't doing ritual with one of the staff there (or the store owner), properly in the ritual circle (etc etc), that spell just neutralized and zero'd out everything. Just shut it down.If I was doing magic as part of an official function there, it probably would have been fine.Well, actually I remember later on I did, and the store had no effect on our connection. Though at that point, she already figured out how to get around that issue, and our connection was stronger. so I'm not sure that's a good example.And now the connection is so strong, I doubt there's much of anything that could disrupt her ability to appear to me or talk to me.
>>39566715>You'd also starve without insects. So go fucking worship bugs, dipass.>Man slowly realizes he should respect all life, because his existence depends on itIt's great when people actually learn, even if they got there accidentally through irony.Yes, anon, you should respect all life. We're all connected, and don't you forget it.
>>39566283>B-b-b-but you don't understand!>Our religion was BETTER than theirs! And now Christianity is the "spiritually primitive" religion.You should feel fortunate that the people replacing you are so much kinder than you were in victory.
>>39554249how do i get my succubus to kiss me? I ask her but dont feel it :(
>>39568186>missing the point entirelyOr are you actually saying you actually worship insects?
>>39568318>tfw such a dullard that you get confused by the concept of "value for all life"NTA, but you kinda suck.
>>39568298How connected are you to your succubus? Are you at gentle touches or hand-holding?
I hope one visits me in my sleep tonight in a good way goodnight
>>39568333The point is that just because something is natural or part of the cycle which supports life, that doesnt automatically make it sacred. Yes you value it within reason, but going:>hurrrrrrr youd be dead without treesIn response to saying tree worship is retarded, is such a monumentally retarded and trite leap in logic that its little wonder that im having to spell if out for brainlets like you.
>>39568769t. kneels to bugs
>>39568747good night
>>39568333Desert religions hate nature, the religions of the people of the forests, the plains, the mountains, and even the sea all love nature instead. His religion is a desert one.
>>39568318>>missing the point entirely>Or are you actually saying you actually worship insects?Yes, I know you are still stuck in your retard ways, and only accidentally and ironically said something good.It's still good though. We're all connected, in a divine way. Does this mean I worship all life, including insects? No. Do I create a shrine in the woods and dedicate to the insects? No. Pray to the insects? No.However, there is divinity in creation, and there is divinity in all life. I don't need to worship other forms of life to respect that divinity. Creation is divine. Remember that.It seems like you're stuck in "worship or condemn" dichotomy, like the only kind of spiritual practice you have is to bow down and submit, or to condemn as evil, and nothing in between. You are a christian after all. Cut off from doing any kind of magic, and expected to accept the mystical teachings of people who are long dead, with no ability to check or verify these things directly yourself (because you are not a mystic).If you did any of those things, you would immediately realize christianity is nonsense. Kinda makes you wonder if the ban on magic and on gnosticism is for your benefit or is it a control mechanism?
is it considered rude to eat food offerings after the have been left out for a while?
>>39568298>how do i get my succubus to kiss me? I ask her but dont feel it :(The quick answer is: "Can you feel any energy, at all?" If the answer is no, then you need to learn how to do that.If you can feel energy, anywhere in your body, including your face and lips, and you still can't feel her kissing you, then you have a block.I will post the long answer I made in my FAQ that has a lot of details
>>39568298>>39569932here's the long answer, in this FAQFAQ Continued: "I summoned a spirit, but nothing happened, what do I do?"There are 4 common explanations.1: You have an emotional block. This manifests as ignoring or dismissing any signs, and is the most likely explanation if the person is already good at magic (not a beginner). Solving the emotional block will require addressing the relevant emotional obstacles.2: Something happened, but it was too subtle or you ignored it. The way to fix this problem is to be more vigilant when looking for signs, and not dismissing them.3: You did the ritual correctly, but your senses are numb and you couldn't sense any signs. Feeling energy (touches) are trained by energy work. Try NEW by Robert Bruce. Seeing/hearing are helped by general spirit communication skills and is made easier by trances. Try Consorting with Spirits by Jason Miller, and any book on trances.4: You did the summoning ritual wrong. The experience should be intense and feel different from usual. Also, you might have inaccurately aimed the emotional energy. While building up your emotions, aim them at the idea of what kind of spirit you want to summon. Keep that concept firmly in your mind when you are building and releasing energy.Take a month before summoning again, training up your energy work and trance skills. Once you can get into a deep trance whenever you want, and feel energy anywhere in your body at-will, you should have good enough skills to sense a spirit. Then try summoning again. If you still can't get results, you probably have a block based on trauma or painful memories.About 70% of people get results on their first try. Some people have never trained their magic skills. After a month of training, those beginners get a result on their second try, and the number goes up to about 80%.About 20% of people still get bad results, likely because of a block.
>>39568769>tree worship is retardedwhat's wrong with worshipping a tree?>monumentally retarded and trite leap in logic that its little wonder that im having to spell if out for brainlets like you.lol, well someone's triggeredI think he doesn't know. Does he know?>tfw he doesn't know
Anons clean your shit when summoning, otherwise you can call a stranger
>>39570042explain?
>>39569554>still not getting itWhy is so hard for you to understand that I was insulting you lmao? Yes theres divinity in everything, but its only divine because it exists within the divine and as a result of it. If the divine is in all creation, and all creation is connected, then the divine must be in all things, including that which we consider negative or even evil. Again, by the logic on display here, because something is necessary or esential to life its either sacred or worthy or worship. I say this is primitive retardation. As the human understanding of the universe grows, so too must our understand of whats is more divine and worthy or veneration. Clearly your standards are lower.However>You are a christian after all. Cut off from doing any kind of magic,It funny how even the slightest defense of Abrahamic thought will get you lumped in with the most annoying god botherers posting in these threads. Never said I was a christkike though. Didnt think I needed to say it, but you've clearly got angsty-teen-forced-to-go-to-church levels of christkike aversion so it needs to be said frankly. But if you dont recognize the fact that almost every Catholic/Orthodox or jewish ritual in existence is an elaborate form of magic, which channels their god to get something done. Then I dont think even connecting with the divine source will help your retardation. The Church just fools people into thinking its not magic, because any magic that doesnt call on the christian god is le ebil sorcery, so they normalize jewish magic and demonize everything else.
>>39569950>Does he know?What, that the majority of retardation here is because of bots? Wouldnt shock me.
>>39566283A tree is teal and useful to generations. Unlike penis mutilating, child sacrifice loving Moloch/Rabbi Yahweh.
Another night, another attempt to commune with the succubus on the astral. G'night lads.
>>39568769>>39568769>that doesnt automatically make it sacred. Yes you value it within reasonWhat do you think "sacred" means?That's the problem with you christfags, you have ZERO understanding of degrees or sliding scales.>What's that? Spiritually engaging with the LIFE around you like trees and such?>What are you, WORSIPPING THEM???If the only way you can engage with the spiritual is to just throw yourself on the ground like a wretch and worship, then its no wonder your religion evolved into Islam.There was no other direction for it.
breakup anon's succubus is dead. she tried to turn me, a succubus queen, against Lilith
>>39572285>That's the problem with you christfags, you have ZERO understanding of degrees or sliding scales.>creates a weird extreme thats not implied anywhere and places his opponent on it for no reasonMine, you are retarded, stop trying to talk about shit that you only half understsnd. You suck at philosophy.
>>39573474your arguments were soundly defeated, give up lil bro
>>39573492How you figure? So far all Im seeing is the usual retardation on display in these thread lmao
I stopped masturbating and started exercising to become physically attractive to potential succ. Now that I've lost weight, gained muscle and not bad abs, I don't really need a succubus much anymore. But for the first three months, I was quite motivated. That's a shame.
>>39558825How's that different than a regular woman?
>>39573747Legally she doesn't exist, so the government can't steal half your shit and give it to her.
>>39573658You bettered yourself. There's no shame in that, despite what your intentions initially were.
>>39573474If I sucked at philosophy, people like you could make arguments instead of mindlessly bitching.I will not be holding my breath.
>>39573658Generally if you lost libido that indicates endocrine disruption.
Anyone here want to adopt a girl looking for strictly sex for energy. I cant have her around but I told her id help her find someone suitable. Her names Arzala. Shes a redhead bimbo that looks like a pornstar human version of Jessica rabbit. I asked and shes ok with that description. Shes looking for a companion she can come to for sex only. She plays nice with other girls too so no need to worry about that. If you are interested call out to her and focus on this post.
>>39574593Nothing to do but make fun of you and call your shit retarded when its been nothing but non sequiters and retardation. I said even the slightest bit of Christkikery makes this thread sperg out, and thats whats happening. Anons crying about the degrees of sacredness of trees. And making nonsensical statements like you're doing now.
>>39574916I will try tonight
>>39574916does she have any sigils or symbols that can be used?
>>39574921and yet... in absence of any ability to explain WHY these things are retarded or nonsequiturs, you're just kinda blathering hot air.Has anybody ever pulled the old "I'm too important and right to even state my case" routine *without* being full of shit?
No.39566649yes anlil its not a sin to foricate with a spirit.the ten commandment don't apply to spirits they apply to material things.your fine bud. sexo away my brother.I get asked this question alot and always end up repeating my self.Just remeber though that succubus can take any form same as incubus.I was just summoned a few minutes ago actually.funny brother i think your spiritually growing.anyway have fun.that's what life is about isn't it.
>>39554249Can I give my succubus a body by having her/it inhabit/animate my sex doll?
>>39575224do you cart it around town or does it live in your bed, permanently stained with G-d knows what?
>>39574916Any info on her? like sigils or any kind of calling to get her attention?
>>39575224It's called making a thoughtform. i.e. imagine yourself out of your body in your room, and then place the being in front of you. It will emulate your movements and then you can have a tulpa that a succubus can take the form of.
>>39575073The points have been made, so feel free to go back and actually read. So far all you've done is go "nuh uh, youre actually the primitive one" to a non sequiter about christfags having nonunderstanding of "degrees of sliding scales". Bringing that up makes no sense if youre trying to prove me wrong. If you want to establish your definition then do it.But if you can tell me why worshipping trees isnt idiotic and primitive spiritualism, then I'll tell you why its a bad idea to shut out ideaologies just because you dont like them. Either way you'll keep posting and i get to poke your unresolved teenage angst against christianity.
>>39575814>But if you can tell me why worshipping trees isnt idioticBut that's the idiotic part, where you've failed due to your inability to understand things like degrees and nuance.Why do you think "worship" is the only spiritual activity that's possible?Oh right, because you belong to an evil religion that has taught you that everything else is "Satan".That IS primitive. Sorry if that upsets you.
roses are red violets are blue, sometimes I miss you, the last person i felt close too;but I do have the borderlines so I also dislike everything about you;mischievously, you laughed about me, so disgustingly, I feel nothing but pity;for you, you sad little thing, will you again sing? so naive and foolish of you,but it's okay sometimes I am foolish too.;I never want to feel close to you ever again, not as aquaintance, not as a friend;still sometimes, thoughts cross my mind, are you ok or are you alright?why can't I forget, and be forever set, with no thoughts on my mind, of you and your kind;I know I am bad friend, it was you who got sent, I got tired to pretend, being able to be, a friend you imagined to see, when in reality, nothing inside me; that could be a friend, enough of this rant.
It's difficult to really know who I am. I explore myself to help with this, but I keep changing. I'm overwhelmed, hurt, disappointed and just generally bothered by so many things. It is so hard to keep track of anything. I put all of my energy in simply maintaining a rudimentary level of composure. It works well enough, Relationships are hard.
>>39575852>>39575852Good trees produce good fruit, bad trees produce bad fruit.Christianity has given us science, man on the moon, modern health and medicine, modern education, the internet.Paganism? Nearly every European converted to Christianity, that is their fruit, Christianity itself and the modern west. Arguably that's an argument in European Pagans favour.Afterall, as Tolkien told C.S. Lewis, Christianity is the ultimate myth, the only true myth. All other myths point to Christianity, they all show themes that borrow from it.As for Paganism in Africa and South America? Well, they got conquered, in some cases 300 Conquistadors beat 80,000 Mayans, and considering the human sacrifice present in both, or the lack of technological achievements of either?The Jews that rejected Christ? They literally have been kicked out of 109 countries a thousand times. They managed to gain control over the worlds wealth and media by tricking Oliver Cromwell into thinking the English were a lost Israelite Tribe and then hitching a ride as a parasite on Britain's Empire. You could argue they deserve credit for the Empire, but then they literally destroyed it, and are now spreading degeneracy, moral decay and evil while trying to kill off the people that made them successful.Literally worlds dumbest parasite alive...Japan? Actually kinda based. Allied with Hitler, has legends that can be seen as warning about the Jews with the Kappa and Tengu. The country is successful, honourable, polite and well disciplined.Same with Korea, they are highly racial supremacist and can tell their relationship with the Jews is highly dependent and dangerous.https://www.michaellaitman.com/articles/south-koreas-love-hate-relationship-toward-jews/
I am really happy right now reading these lines from you, what more could I ask for... but maybe I am just seeing things I want to see, right now I feel close to you if that is indeed you.., it's not as bad as I had imagined.. it feels somewhat authentic not too close yet honestcomposure yea.. maybe I more often than not underestimated how important such a thing is to you... accusing you of being a phony, which wasn't the full picture entirely it seems...you know there was a thing about you I was afraid about from the very beginning.. maybe now is the right time to confess. I always feared that one faithful day you may come to the same realizations I came too a long time ago.., my instincts tell me that this day might be the end of you, so since you veil yourself so well sometimes I may never see it coming... and could I even help you in that if you would open up about it to me? could I even be there for you the way you would need someone to be there for you? would I want to? I don't know these things, my feelings are intense but unreliable... how could i ever stay under such circumstance? how can I build a bond with good conscience I am not sure i can keep. unable to be the friend you need in need. you inadvertently gave me a way out, and I took it. this is reality. I still really like you and right now I am sort of longing a bit to be close to you, like back in day, anyway I don't feel like it can last, how much time is left until I despise you again or become indifferent.it's really hopeless, well I guess cherishing this moment is all that's left and all that really makes sense. hopefully it will be the last moment of sentimentality I allow myself.i really wish you will be happy and the sad day of my imagination will never come true, it would sadden me greatly nothing i would want to endure.. but who are you even, right? So I always thought it's better to end it all prematurely, sometimes I just wanna hug you... anyway be well.
>>39575852>Why do you think "worship" is the only spiritual activity that's possible?I dont think that. This is where your fucking non sequiturs are coming into play. The conclusions do not follow my statements or even your own.Plus were not talking about respect or spiritual interaction. Were talking about pagans getting mad at Christians for cutting down an extra speshul tree. It isnt about whether you should respect nature or not. It about tards like you getting mad at a Religion for doing something that doesnt affect you, because youve got all the views of an emo kid getting pissed at his parents for making him go to Sunday School.>Oh right, because you belong to an evil religion that has taught you that everything else is "Satan". Another great example of my point being illustrated. I could say that I'm a Typhonic Hermeticist, or a Pure Land Buddhist raised on western thought, or anything but a Christian and youd never believe me. Why? Because its clear youve got a pathological hate-stick for Christians shoved so far up your ass its skewered your brain and now you cant see me as anything else.
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>>39576268Japan isn’t based. They are pagans who jump into destruction and create false heavens. And their gospel choked the west even more into the ways of evil.
>>39570342God has set me with a watcher that harvests souls. We set souls into the arms of God or condemn them for their wickedness.
>>39567566Moses wanted the law to be in all nations of the gentiles.
>>39563187>why wouldn't someone who loves you want to have sex with your body? that is normal, of courseBecause true and eternal marriage requires for both bodies to be holy. And that is not in my body yet.Jesus waits for his bride to be sanctified and purified before he takes her.
>>39576268>Christianity has given us scienceSome of you still deny fucking evolution...>All other myths point to ChristianityThis is exactly the kind of stupidity that you fall into when you have the *sheer fucking hubris* to conflate your shitty little desert religion with GOODNESS ITSELF.Like, congratulations, SOME of you TRIED to seek goodness. A BIT.And then the hubris just ate you alive. Because power corrupts and your religion has been powerful HOW LONG???>>39576622Yeah, welcome to the point. His notion of "Good" was just "Optimized strategy for tribal conflict".Those other tribes would be following the law because they'd be CONQUERED.>>39576466>getting mad at Christians for cutting down an extra speshul treeBro, its just basic fucking decency to respect shit that's important to other people. The fact that you think you get to judge the value of those things is just your hubris and makes you a piece of shit.You wanna deny being Christian? it might make you sound less full of shit if you bothered to self-identify rather than just "talking about doing so".It would also help if you weren't a piece of shit trying to carry water for unambiguously evil behavior specifically done by Christians, but I frankly don't really care what you are.
>>39576725>Bro, its just basic fucking decency to respect shit that's important to other people. The fact that you think you get to judge the value of those things is just your hubris and makes you a piece of shit.That is literally what anyone or you are doing when they discount any idea in favor of another. But fine. Assuming thats the right way to think, at what point do you step in and make a judgement? At what point do you stop your fake "respect" and step in and make a value judgement? Because you are literally doing what you call christfags hubristic for. So what makes you different? What makes your sense of scale more correct? But then again your entire post is just what I'm expecting from you at this point.You are straight up acting and talking like some edgy goth kid on MySpace wanting to kill his parents for making him go to church. > Some of you still deny fucking evolution... Like, what kind of mass media horseshit understanding of history do you have? Hes talking about the development of scientific and philosophical thought as it arose from Medieval and Renaisance Christian Europe. Scholastic thinkers and Theologians didnt just sit around labeling things "god" and "satan". They studied other shit.Yet your brain seems only capabale of lumping every Christian ever into the evengalical "jesus is my boyfriend types". Fuck knows why. Maybe thats how you were raised or something.
>>39576831They don’t know how Jesus, saints, and angels work.They just want to claim they are lame and pathetic, claiming evil is more unique than them.
>>39576831>At what point do you stop your fake "respect" and step in and make a value judgement?This is another place where you need a little nuance (and this would be obvious if you were a saner person, btw). Cuz you can have respect for something AND ALSO challenge it.All you have to do is just TALK rather than waving around an axe like a psychopath because you think others are silly.Its also further indication of your disgusting fucking hubris that you think its even your role to go around managing other people in this way.>Hes talking about the development of scientific and philosophical thought as it arose from Medieval and Renaisance Christian Europe.Reminder that your lying ass was DENYING being a christfag a moment ago...Cuz really, there is NOBODY other than christfags who give them CREDIT for fucking science. Fuck you, liar. You people are so fucking disgusting...
>>39576891You’re just mad because you have a fallen angel that can’t go to heaven. You will be forced to break up with her and take what Jesus hands you out instead.
>>39554271why would there be pain?
>>39576929Homie, we have our own heaven with blackjack and hookers.You don't have a monopoly on happiness any more than you have a monopoly on good.
>>39577003The one ordained to me is everything you desire in a girl. Even supernaturally.
>>39554249How do you kill one of these things? Can you appease it to make it go away? This bitch is in my mind and keeping me from getting laid, any previous experience or advice is appreciated
>>39577208Why is your first thought of violence and not just, y'know, communicating with her?
>>39576891>All you have to do is just TALKSo its whatever you happen to say at the time? Moral relativism right? Got it. Stupid.But even then by your own admission its acceptable to give something value based on your own judgement. Yet you're missing your own point where scale must be accounted for. Nuance must be taken into account in both directions. You judge and give value to the sacredness of a tree and either choose to act (or to not act) upon that judged value. Just as you judge the value of the actions of another person. You judge its value then you may choose to enact that judgement with scale in mind.Which is why you cut down a tree that people are making human sacrifices to. Just as you knock down the pyramid where peoples hearts are cut out to make the corn grow. Just as you also judge the value of nature and choose to respect it in your own way. But hey you sound like a relativist to me and->Fuck you, liar. You people are so fucking disgusting.Your asspain tells me youre really receptive to these ideas.
>>39577270Because.
>>39577310Why? You should always just try to ask first. It's only polite.
>>39577323let him learn the hard way.
>>39554365Thank you.
>>39577270average demon sympathizer>why dont you ermmm try communicating?because this DEMON has my SOUL and is blackmailing me and keeping me from getting REAL sex with a REAL woman. People like you are always the first to go in psychic wars, kneeling and kissing the ring, thinking they're just like us. They arent, they are beings of pure energy with motives unseen, ones they will not reveal to neither you nor I, regardless of how much sex with have with them.
>>39577304>Nuance must be taken into account in both directions.When we're talking about what today would be called a "Religiously-motivated hate crime", there's really not much nuance going the other way.You just have to not PHYSICALLY ATTACK others.You're trying to do a bunch of intellectual gymnastics to justify a very simple crime.>Oh, but it can't be a crime because my speshul religion!Fuck you.>>39579251>because this DEMON has my SOULNot it does not.A soul is WHAT YOU ARE, not a thing you have and can give away.Also, when you drift away from your own claims about your own situation and start talking about EVERYBODY'S interactions, you reveal yourself as a Christian shill.inb4 wailing and gnashing of teeth that you're so transparent.
I'm too horny to summon a succubus but I'm too scared to summon a succubus
>>39576831>and Renaisance Christian EuropeYou're claiming a bunch of deists, hermetics, masons, and illuminatus as Christian now? In any other era you'd be calling them heretics.
>>39579380>Religiously-motivated hate crime", there's really not much nuance going the other way.>You just have to not PHYSICALLY ATTACK others.Oh, so you have modern brain parasites, and injecting modern context and understanding of the world and spirituality to the past. So you oversimplify things with statements like "uhm could you like, try, like talking?XD. Why u commiting hate crimes?" Nice. And ignore the more complicated points too. Your shit's beyond saving, Mine.
>>39579514They just call you a loser and leave. Ask me how I know
>>39580073>injecting modern context and understanding of the world and spirituality to the past.Yes. Because our understanding of the world is BETTER now.You are not describing "spirituality of the past", you're describing human sins.Failure to adapt to this is why your religion has died.From a modern perspective, we can now understand that BECAUSE your religion had nothing real to offer (except catholic corruption), that's why you HAD to resort to violence, persecution, and suppression.A GOOD religion could spread itself by its own virtues, without need for barbarism.Protip: You could look to certain things like "controlling women" and say, "Well, that was gonna be the strategy used by WHICHEVER tribe came out on top because its a morally-bad/materially-winning strategy", but all that changes once you take on the mantel of "Goodness" like Christians.At that point, when you start going around acting like a barbarous asshole, you are betraying what you claim to represent.Nothing about that changes with the era, and it only makes it worse to sin in the name of Goodness.
No idea what you people are arguing about again, but Mine really got taste with these images. Guess it's called a popular person offering a basic level of value. Actually I think Mine has a preference for a certain facial structure (in anime) let's call it the Mine-face. It's a pretty and social face, I like it but also I don't like it because I now associate this certain kind of face with Mine and what is- worse with all the their disgusting excesses, (is that really a part of their soul?) and of course associating with all the danger and taint that comes with these sexual spirits uniting with degenerate sex crazed humans that lurk her looking for sex, how obnoxious. it's a dilemma, I don't want to taint my art appreciation that way with these bad associations.And no, I am not gonna read what your were arguing about again.
>>39580238>From a modern perspective, we can now understand that BECAUSE your religion had nothing real to offer (except catholic corruption), that's why you HAD to resort to violence, persecution, and suppression.>A GOOD religion could spread itself by its own virtues, without need for barbarism.You really seem hung up on Christianity being all pervasive to being a dying religion. Every point you make seems to just fall back to>YOURE AN EVIL AND BARBEROUS CHRISTIAND AND YOURE WRONG BECAUSE YOURE SP EVIL AND MEANI say chopping down a sheshul tree is nothing to be crying about. You screech about how Christians dont understand nuance and default to violence value judgements.I say there are degrees to making judgements and one can choose to act on them. You screech about how Vhristians commited a medival hate crime.I say you're wrong to ascribe modern values to an event whose context and history is unrelated to modern fee fees, when giving final judgement. You screech about Christianity being backwards and dying.Its actually pretty funny.
>>39580283Dont read it. Its just Mine having a fit because his parents made him go to Church and probably said he was going to hell for acting like a faggot.Many such cases.Although I'm having fun.
>>39580406Ah yes, the recurring discussion since when? 3 years?But maybe it just shows how much they are really hurting about that.. if they just can't stop caring, or maybe they made it their duty. I mean the threat of hell in christianity is a serious extortion, psychologically, but I really don't want to get into this discussion. Glad you are enjoying yourself, I am not judging, I know it's kinda fun once Mine talked themselves into a frenzy, are they not adorable sometimes? I can't really hate them, unless sometimes, but not at the moment. Anyway. enjoy yourself
>>39580389>I say you're wrong to ascribe modern values to an event whose context and history is unrelated to modern fee feesAre we allowed to say the Romans were morally wrong to have brought captured little German girls to the Coliseum to get literally raped to death by elephants and chimps specifically trained for that purpose?
>>39580477I don't know. Lets take it a step further. Should we say Romans were all shit, and evil and everything theyve done should be discounted because the the idea of Colloseum games and executions were acceptable?
>>39580078How you know?
>>39580583>I don't knowDeflection. You refuse to answer my question and instead attempt to argue a different one. I'm not mine, if you refuse to engage in fair spirit I won't waste my time.
>>39580631NTA To answer the question you both would have to agree first what is morally good or bad, since objective morally seems not to exist or being sterile without effect. It's easy for you the other poster was deflecting, I don't think this is true, there point is just not if it is morally wrong or not but that the generalization that all romans are bad because some romans are bad is wrong hinting that the same goes for christian. Logically speaking it's a valid argument and not really a bad faith deflection in the sense you seem to imply.
>>39579251>average demon sympathizerBecause the word 'Demon' means fuckall and does not actually dictate their morals or values. Demon is the old fashioned buzzword for, "Stop liking and believing what I don't like!" and was just a word of coercion used to scare retards in to believing something else.>because this DEMON has my SOULBut anon, you ARE your soul. You can't not be your soul, even if you are trapped in a prison of flesh. >and is blackmailing me keeping me from getting REAL sex with a REAL womanBecause, y'know, you didn't communicate with it first by your own admission? Maybe if you find out why it's doing that and what it wants, you'll find a solution.>People like you are always the first to go in psychic wars, kneeling and kissing the ring, thinking they're just like us.99.9999% of humans are awful, though. Why would I want them to be just like us? >They arent, they are beings of pure energy with motives unseen, ones they will not reveal to neither you nor I, regardless of how much sex with have with them.And the problem with that is...? Everyone has their own goals, motives, agendas, etc. and wearing your heart, emotions, and thoughts on your sleeve for everything to see is... Not a good idea. Ever. For anyone. Also, succubi aren't onaholes. Why would any of them have any reason whatsoever to suddenly spill every bit of knowledge and aspect of themselves to you simply because you fucked? You sound like the spiritual version of an incel with all that entitlement. That's probably what happened, huh? Always blamed others, never sought to self reflect, never realized you were the problem, and never strove for improvement. You turned to the supernatural for sex, but never fixed a single fucking thing about your entitled mindset and problematic self, and are sperging out yet again when everything you want isn't just handed to you simply because you exist. This sounds like you. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0snTBwkkPQk
No, you can't kill a spirit. Yes, communication with said spirit is the only tool you have to change your relationship with it. Everything else is irrelevant conjecture and shitflinging, get over yourself and either take the advice you are given or fuck off.
>>39580995NTA who would ever want to take on the struggles and hardships of dealing with a real person(f.e a woman) let alone having a relationship with them when you could drown in fantasy, dreams and projections all day throwing a pity party for yourself all day every day is that not infinitly safer, more intense, more meaningful, just better in everyway than dealing with strangers or soon to be strangers.. it's funny though you critique someone for using a buzzword like demon around only to throw the i-word around a few lines later... anyway your defence of his succ sounds as unreasonable to me as the other anons little victim fantasy also your critique of entitlement mindset cold be problematic, especially as you are trying to put the other anon down, do you want to make him even more bitter ? maybe you need him for contrast to feel better about yourself? I mean you are great at telling anons they have problems and namecalling them the I-word, yet you offer no constructive criticism only humiliation and spite. sad
>>39581095NTA. Communication is a valid tool, but he can also support his clear communication to the spirit to leave him alone with proper banishment.But I agree his violent thoughts are unreasonable and uncalled for.
>>39581213Honestly I wouldn't even call them uncalled for entirely, it is not unreasonable to be overwhelmed by a spirit and thus get, for lack of a better word, tilted. That said, the emotional unrest is clearly just causing shit-stirring here and is not really helping anybody save for those who desire an argument for its own sake. Ultimately you are right.
>>39581255I think venting emotional unrest can be a way for some people to get back to balance, when they realized their voices are heard taken seriously and met with honest feedback. of course it can be annoying if you are not in the mood for this sort of exchange and currently interested in other topics. but what is the alternative, should they repress their emotional unrest get pent up and abuse substances or self harm? venting frustration here on an "anonymours" imageboard is a much better stress management strategy.. even if it is selfish. So that is my perspective on things. You make a good point about being overwhelmed by spirits and tilts, I agree.
>>39581364That's a very fair point. I also don't think it helps that this general has suffered the presence of posters like Matpat which kinda put people in a defensive position naturally due to the constant bombardment of contrarianism posters like him have brought. So, the defensiveness is also a matter of emotional unrest from the other side of things.But yeah, everybody deserves a chance to vent their shit if they need to, absolutely. I hope his spirit troubles him no more, and I hope the rest of us can get along and enjoy our own relationships with spirits without worry.
Haven't been here in a while, has anyone had any successes lately?
sometimes I imagine how all the limitations and bindings of myself and others in this world would just fall away.. and I wouldn't be bound by my own orbit and destiny, free to do whatever I want..I could follow my imaginations and feelings freely, I would wish for someone to cry in my arms as I could be there for them ready for them to unload all their pain and suffering onto me, and I could cry with them and caress them comforting them, what a beautiful sense of belonging and purpose would that be.. is it a sin to get lost in my imagination sometimes, I think it could be worsein another daydream I would be friends with Mine and they wouldn't be so suspicious about me and defensive in general and free from their self chosen obligations free to enjoy life so that I could dance all day with them to my favorite bloodhound songs all day and all night on full volumehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnoEzxkhZrw
I think I would legitimately try this but I am too carnal, I need physical pleasure, I crave it.I like the sound of everything else but not being able to feel their lips around my cock or whatever is just a deal breaker.
>>39554249Succi succi Succubus <3
Wheres muh super gooey Succubus bby?>it's everywhere. So what? I like it.
>>39580389>You really seem hung up on Christianity being a dying religion.Deus Vult.>I say chopping down a sheshul tree is nothing to be crying about.Yeah, we get it, you have a massive gap in your morality where you're unwilling to respect others if you deem to to be "silly" for some reason.It makes you a judgmental piece of shit who deserves all of the thousand bitch-slaps that life will give you for that kind of shitty attitude.Enjoy your education as it arrives.>>39580583>Should we say Romans were all shit, and evil and everything they've done should be discountedNo, but if somebody said they were the ideal civilization the way that Christians say they're the ideal religion, then you would call bullshit for a million different reasons.>the idea of Colloseum games and executions were acceptableHey, did you notice how you just took, "Watching a little girl get raped to death by animals as a form of entertainment" and sterilized it into "Colosseum games"?Yeah, your historical relativism really is a moral gap.
>>39583050idk bout guys and succubi but i can definitely feel my spirit guy touch and play with me and insert himself. why not start start over
>>39566649>do I have the right to call myself a gigachad if I fornicate with succubus "version of" a world-class A-lister celeb? Such as ; current Thinspo ariana grande, chloe moretz, 18 y.o. Sam from Icarly?that's pretty basic to be honestsuccubi can be even hotter than that, like "better than perfect". and it's not hard to have sex with a beautiful succubus. They all come like that, standard issue.Yep, standard issue succubus right thar. Standard issue.
>>39570342>If the divine is in all creation, and all creation is connected, then the divine must be in all things, including that which we consider negative or even evil.Correct.Now you're learning. It is fascinating how you accidentally spit out the truth sarcastically like that. It's like your mind is trying to find reality, and accidentally bumps into it.Now throw away your ridiculous notions of a god that's all powerful and all loving, and yet still allows evil in the world.If there is an all powerful god, that knows everything, then he knows of evil yet doesn't stop it.So that means he's evil. And also responsible for all the good.There's no god and devil dichotomy. And even if there was, the all powerful god was still allowing the devil to do evil things. Ultimately, the all powerful being is still responsible for everything.Which again means... the world comes from god, and in that mirror we see his reflection. So the world is god, and god is the world. There is not much of a distinction here.Judge a tree by its fruits.>Again, by the logic on display here, because something is necessary or esential to life its either sacred or worthy or worship.You are assuming the world isn't godly. It is. What's the point of a creator if there is no creation? Would you even know about god, if he never created anything? Of course not.You cannot separate creation from the creator. Denying this world as "not divine" is simply foolish.And anyway, you are a christian. So you're mocking god's creation? Very very silly. You think you're better than god? You could do a better job? Or that he shouldn't have made this world?No. Creation is divine, it comes from the creator. This is not complicated, and you should already believe it.
>>39574916>does she have any sigils or symbols that can be used?>>39575531>Any info on her? like sigils or any kind of calling to get her attention?Ugh. Not that anon, but you don't need sigils to contact a spirit.Just contact them. You'll either find that spirit, or something close enough anyway.
>>39575073>Has anybody ever pulled the old "I'm too important and right to even state my case" routine *without* being full of shit?Pretty much every time lmaotree hater anon is just triggeredAnd why does he hate the trees? What did they ever do to him?
>>39575238>G-d knows what?is this a jew speaking?Hello mister rabbi, I would like to say a few things.
>>39576640>Jesus waits for his bride to be sanctified and purified before he takes her.it is a bit odd that the christ cucks are all closeted homos for jesusor maybe not?Either way, the jesus fuckers are... wait, no, that IS on topic for this thread.Jesus is a god, gods are spirits, and fucking gods or spirits is welcome in this thread.Please, forgive me, and carry on. Your jesus sexxo fanfic is welcome here.
>>39579251>because this DEMON has my SOULNo, it doesn't. Nothing can have or take your soulThough if it can get you to believe that, I'm sure it will cause you distress, which is its real goal. Negative spirits feed off negative emotions.They don't really have any power over you. That's why they harass you. To get a reaction.>People like you are always the first to go in psychic warsPerhaps. But people with experience, who aren't stupid, would be much better prepared than blind idiots. Pick your poison I guess> They arent, they are beings of pure energy with motives unseen, ones they will not reveal to neither you nor Ithat is a very fascinating assumption. What is that based on? Do you have any experience in this, or is this more something you believed because you read it in a book somewhere?Because their motives very much can be seen, it's not some unknowable mystery. You don't have to doubt them.You can piece through illusions and see who they really are. It's not hard.
>>39581095>No, you can't kill a spirit.you can, but it beyond the abilities of most beginnersAnd anyway, their desires will betray them, and they'll bring the spirit backWhy did the spirit show up in the first place? Because of subconscious desire (or fear, in other examples).Any battling from the conscious mind will be greatly overpowered by the subconscious. The subconscious is way more powerful than the conscious mind.The classic quote "If we do not make the unconscious conscious, it will rule our lives and we will call it fate"Do your shadow work, folks! And then it will be way easier to banish spirits you (think) you don't want.
>>39567566>might makes rightMoron>reeeeWhy did that anon's mention of jordan peterson trigger you so badly? Does it hit a little close to home? And why are you so obsessed with defending moses of all people? Are you jewish or something?>>39573431I can't tell if that's something you made up, something you're dumb enough to believe, or somebody roped you into being a "succubus queen" and now you're fighting random succubi>>39574593>ummm ackshully if you don't provide detailed in depth proofs the earth is round every single time I bring it up and tell you those proofs aren't good enough, that means I'm right>take that, libtard>>39575897Be at peace, anon. I absolve you of the need to brood over past suffering>>39577208Have you tried having sex with her? I've heard that makes succubi less intrusive
Considering you guys seem to have a fair amount of experience with entities, I have a situation and just want to rule out things before assuming I'm just a schizo.I consider myself an artist, not a particularly talented or renowned one, more of an amateur that does it for the love of the art one. As such, I've been on a stump for a good portion of my adult years, until a certain character came to mind one day.She is, coincidentally, a demon in my mind and the works I do that involve her. And I found myself noticing that, the amount of creativity I feel flowing through me only really peaks when I work on something related to her. Hell, I even find myself quite enamored by my own depiction of her.Should I take meds or poke further into spirits being the root cause?
>>39584404Seems to me like she is influencing your talent, she could be a spirit related to creativity. As for the schizo stuff, that is often how it can feel when dealing with some spirits, especially powerful ones. Synchronicity is often times part of how they work and communicate, and it manifests most often in unusually coincidental signs, unusually good luck or unusually good skill, depending on the spirit and your relationship to it.They are more often than not either higher dimensional beings or at the very least able to influence reality via higher dimensions. Thus, it's impossible to prove definitively, and that can make you feel like you're crazy or make other people think you are crazy if you don't have your wits about you. I only recommend meds if you think you need them to function, ultimately.
>>39583948you make it sound so easy.
>>39584498Interesting.It would explain some feelings I get whenever I'm working on something related to her. Like a longing, something I feel I should be reach and yet I'm unable to.Needless to say, I've tried meditation and astral projection before, not long enough to have exceptional results and not for this specific motive, perhaps I should give it another try.As for the alternative, I believe it will be on the table until I find some sort of 'definitive answer' for myself.
>>39584032Thank you Chant Anon for your kindness and powerful constructive words for me. I'll try.
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