Welcome here we will be cross referencing viseral experiance with the um tarot and dreams - so we can easier interpret our dreamsfor example I was thinking you can can start herecups - water/ emotion (think rivers for time, lakes for patience prehaps the four of cups, uh sea for doubt and vengence so like 8 of cups and boats for crossing ocean six of swords)swords air/mental ( think wind hurricance soft summer breeze, think sky clouds the weather accross barren lands and cold days think ice for frozen water is swords also maybe a nice like hmmm two of swords could invoke swords of ice. the refining of emotion to decision but the disaccosition from its flow)wands fire/art/creation/action/sex/danger! (GEE this ones hard. so for this maybe naked people and literally different clours of flames as light is conntative of like you know like fire and light cross and we could do a cold flame for the like what would you do that for for the star. pentacles coins/earth/money/flowers, grass, trees, the weather from an inside perspective, / health (was thinking eight of swords could be represented by an hour glass but like maybe a tree in wind that grows fast? idk how to do coins its hard help me lol nautre and time. buildings. gold. theift. soul cards should be something too not sure what any ideas? the goal of this thread is to create a codification of 78 cards with exceptional symbolgy easily used in dreams and understood by readers.
alright so ace of cupsa cup in your hand over flowing - symbolizes a love of the present moment hand connects to present cup connects to heart and feminine water to emotions love it is new or reborn love it is the beginning and base of love easy one. two of cups. a drink with the member of the opposite sex or otherwise desired sex and sexuality for romance for you if youre a sexual would imply curiosity into romance. talking doesn't matter about what what matters if you drink the drink and if it tastes good even if its just water if it taste good you know she honest if it taste bad you know shes not ect whatever genderthree of cups idk I need some help I'm thinking a triangle and water how do I do that and I know its friendship but it can be alterior influence and like emotional cheating and shit
general reading please
>>39554664three of cupsits like rain but you're sheltered. if youre walking down the street with your partner and he offers YOUR umberralla to another GIRL then he cheating he cheating bad thats a dream he cheats fuck him anyway we'll handle the vengence side of that on 3 of of swords also will indicate if youre insecure or something how it feels to be in the rain maybe you like being int he rain? that means go fishing girl go fishing hard that umbrella should be just you two. if you get an umbrella dream that doesnt end in him giving it to another you got a loyal man that's good and he's loyaly ok triangel umbrella done. for firendship its you and youre too mates all squeezing hard lol three is the best friends
>>39554684no not reading here
>>39554695oh
>>39554699what does four evoke in you its a square? ice cubes?? lets just say ice cubesfive is like drowinging or someone you love dies at sea and theres nothing you can do to stop it lol but if internal trouble youre the one drowning also spilling water is a minor of this card just a disappointment drowning is literal life and death from illness and complications very important emotions can killsix is a vase of flowers seven hmmmm misty morning lets say has to be break of morning like pride and prejudice and it means youre starting on a good paththen eight leaving how do you leave a water?
>>39554699we clocking this shit! lets keep going! easier with you har sorry if it all makes sense or none just confusion
The Hermit - IXHe is facing West which nods to both Hermeticism/(Hermit)ism as the western esoteric tradition, but he is also facing the past nodding to the Old Tradition. Lantern in his right hand, in the lantern is a six-pointed star, the Star of David. The conjunction of two Triangles/Triads.Staff/Stave in his left hand it is made of a metal, using context it is either gold or bronze, the Staff of Aaron. Oswald Wirth's Hermit has a snake curling around its end. I - The MagicianX - Wheel of FortuneHe is a Time Mage.This is all for now.
>>39554777ok directions are very importnat to me to me west is a tiring journy but you keep walking until you die and you are rewarded. Now I like your description and if wer're going to use complex symblogoly I think we can fairly call the Major Arcana like in term of spirit guides and how those around you are teaching you like if your mom is where a flower crown she's in an empress nuturuing roles can also help spirits define their purpose in dreams there are two angel cards and two demon cardstemperance judgement three actually the angel from the lovers bless thatthen we have the devil and death for demons to hone as
>>39554777also they are life turning points so if the POV is I'm got a latern in my hand and a staff climbing a mountain then what I'm about to learn a thruth rightsay I climb the mountain an the staff comes off and I find my home and tools magicain. and Iuse them to build a wheel then if the wheel is a matter of time thing its saying your essentially creating time
AQis the IT movie cursed??? i felt sooo awful vibes emiting whilst watching i had to clense after
>>39554967not that sort of a thread
>>39554777ok and west is like left to right its backwards its returning inward seek because the direction I follow letters would be the opposite in hebrew
>>39554880I agree with the Major Arcana corresponding to Spirit Guides, but I also believe they are always working for our good. The Angel/Demon or Light/Dark alignments of each card can be tricky as in XIII he may often be seen as an Adversary however this Adversary is also a Herald to warn of change, the Major before Death is the 12 - Hanged Man which symbolizes enlightenment, and then after Enlightenment comes 13 or a spiritual death, like Baptism. Death in appearances is seen as an Adversary or a Satan to us but in the end it transforms us and leads us to XIV - Temperance which brings us peace and balance. This peace and balance is disrupted by XV - The Devil which causes us Destruction (XVI - The Tower), but after that destruction comes hope (XVII - The Star) which leads us to search inward (XVIII The Moon) and this introspection brings us to XIX - The Sun which is where we find Joy. Although some of the Majors are seemingly be working against us, they are the ones that ultimately build us and bring us closer to XX - The World or Completion. So in a sense they are all our allies even the ones that cause us temporal harm.>>39554919Yes, I agree it is through the Hermit we find our Tools (Magician) but it takes us Time (Wheel of Fortune) to find them. The I and X numerals help reveal the truth behind the Hermit. It is also through those Tools that we manifest Time/Fortune in that sense.
>>39555100roman numerals could be our friend I agree
>>39555100*XXI - The World
>>39555100I'm also considering flower correspondances; lavender for sleep and the underlaying and time and willing denialrose for love that draws blood pain challenges you sun flower joy and pride youth and living in the moment without forcing it i dunno what a daisy does but yeah
>>39555120This can also be helpful for the Minors. Like when you brought up 3 of Cups this leads us to III - Empress, and when paired there are four women, three in the cups and one in the Major which creates 4 and the 4th Major is IV - Emperor which nods to its meaning of Relationships. Like the relationship of the Empress and the Emperor as King and Queen of the Majors. >>39555132I agree Flower Symbolism is very important, like the White Rose in the Fool's hand and the Harvest Flower on Death's banner.
>>39555178right ok liking this train of thought so like they could be sisters too and also have ties to the fates through nyx. ok so should we introduce the element of a red string and how would we use that? also obviously a gold string of immortality is implied in like the sun a bit and ........ nine of pent but only in certain situations idk I'm feeling way out classed by my skill is simplicity. ok so heres my socks my association fool - cliffmagician - hammer (simplifies the four elements for easyer translation y/N)highpreistess - veilsempress - flower crownemperor - eagle?hierophant - keyslovers - red stringchariot - horses literal chariot, um simpler though then a car, driving a car is the modern translationstrength - lions in friend ship or attack, the open of a mouth through gentle touchhermit - a mountain?wheel of fotune - literal wheel easyHanged man hard one - um the sensation of being draggeddeath - wow idk here has to be like transfomative maybe just a black flag? with or without flower to denote harvest aspectok temperance - water taken from a river, early morning lightdevil - chains, blood lustok then next one tower I think so that's like lightingthen star, pour water into a rivermoon crawling from the watersun gee just the sun itselfjusgement - trumpets and light breaking from heaventhe world - circels, globe
>>39555178what if we give each thing three associative paths1 object past assocation2 animal present association3 feeling future assocaition is that too ambitious and catorgoirical or a good idea?
>>39555301Simplification may be difficult as the result of simplifying Tarot we will lose a lot of meaning found in each card, despite that here is what I think of your simplification of each 0 - Cliff works but I would suggest using a White Rose and a FeatherI - Hammer works but you can also use a Wand and Infinite symbolII - Veil is good, you can also add Pomegranates III - Flower Crown is good, you also can add the Venus symbolIV - I would use a Ram and a ScepterV - Keys is perfectVI - Red Ribbon worksVII - You can simplify it further and use a Top Spinner as found on the crestVIII - You can also use a Lion's mouth and a pair of handsIX - I would use a LanternX - Wheel is perfectXI - Scales and a SwordXII - I would use the letter TauXIII - You can also use a ScytheXIV - A cup pouring into anotherXV - Chains is perfectXVI - That worksXVII - You can also use a StarXVIII - A moon worksXIX - Yes the sun XX - PerfectXXI - GoodThat is my two cents, hope it helps.
>>39555301If you want to use a simplified system you can try Lenormand.
>>39555451ok do you want to work the minors I'll think on the XII cause it has to be an object object might even have to go with a rope like eh idk a noose or something like apart from that I agree with most of these Infinitity goes to strength too white roseis in both death and fool can't be chaingd to one and feathers all over the place for pomergranants then I would say maybe but Ihave very specific greek roots in my theory and yeah pomergranants would be the effective taking in of a mans seed you understand that right that its the seduction and gratification of a man? we can put it in but the symbols link might need explaining so the meaning isn't lost. want something simpler for 8 not sure what a top spinner is venus symbol its hard to process in a dream for most people since its a straight symbol but its easy to remmeber after the fact so yeah I back it.I really like hammer for magician because it brings like these special connatations of skilled work where wands are more like inspired like truely magical yes but inaccessbile they hold a glamour of like you will never have the right wand to do magic cause your not magic for me though I have had some great wands so maybe just list both with different conntation hammer might be better for a 8 of wands actually but a wand is still only a wand what if we use a table instead for magician?
>>39555484thank you if you've read it could share some links?
>>39555451can you do me a favor and think a couple sceen and setting wether land socks assocoations for the majors? dont need it for the lowers but if raining at night under the stars = the star or sunny day is the sun or like a water fall for example for temperance? can you do that I have to get a smoke I'll come and collabe but give me inital readings and leave a ? if you can't thikn and I'll brute force my mind to socks it
>>39555633ok Fool - cliff - donkey Magician - sky with fire works - green match boxHigh Preistess - black sky over ocean - pompergrants for reciprocal pregnancy, veil for mysteryEmpress - meadow - flower crownEmperor - rocky ground - ram Hierophant - thunder - keysLovers - sharing fruit with a partner beneath an open sky- red stringChariot - wind at your back - spinning topStrength - sun appears from behind clouds - a candle because a candel is light in the dark and a patience waiter that steadily burnsHermit - steep path - latnernWheel of Fortune - sandy beach that tretches on - hourglass
>>39556244ok Justice - boulder rolling down a hill - scalesHanged Man - rain that turns to hail that turns to snow - yoyoDeath - fire in the sky over a harvest feild - sytheTemperance - drinking or taking river water - cups that pass water betweenDevil - a red sky with black ground - chainsTower - lightning esp hitting a grand building - falling, then rubbleStar - pouring water into a river - a wellMoon - moony night obvi - opalSun - sunny day obvi - sunflowersJudgement - light breaking from heaven - trumpetsWorld - globe viewed from space - circle implied as a completion, in feeling or verbatim
