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>sonic 2 prototype had ufos in the sky that look like some of the UAPs seen years later
>everyone who REALLY gets into it goes a little crazy in some way
>influenced a lot of creepypasta online culture
>heavy association with michael jackson, one of the most paranormal people in history
>CWC, another paranormal autist, was obsessed with it
>never dies no matter how bad the series does, always bounces back somehow
>chaos emeralds are associated with many paranormal concepts like alchemy, philosopher's stone, 6/7 being an important number in man religions, etc.
>creator says he can hear "the voice of sonic" in his head telling him to make a good game
Is anyone else unsettled or fascinated by how strange this franchise is?
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>>39570154
>Is anyone else unsettled or fascinated by how strange this franchise is?

Not really. They just hit the nail on the head with the character design and all the autists cant get enough of the franchise as long as at least like 1 in 5 games are "good".

The the genesis games do have some energy to them though. when I was playing sonic CD earlier this year I definitely got a pretty unique vibe.
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>>39570202
Mario is honestly far more lackluster than Sonic ever was.
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>>39570154
That’s Sonic 1.
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>>39570202
Yeah the newer games are just your regular AA 3d platformers but there's always some sort of energy I've felt from sonic 1, CD, and sonic R (even disregarding the memes around it). 2 and 3 to a lesser extent, but that vibe seems to be gone once you get to the dreamcast era.

The rest are pretty gamey.
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>>39570219
I think it’s because Sonic did things such as kicking the Devil himself and portraying even his strongest form of power, where is he like God, is blown out easily on a candle.
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>>39570154
Idk but i always have dreams about Sonic games lol
>creator says he can hear "the voice of sonic" in his head telling him to make a good game
Sauce?
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>>39570154
Sonic was designed to cause autism.
Mario is Red Lodge, Sonic is Blue Lodge.
Both work for the purple royalty, and are freemasons.
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The original sonic games definitely have this weird feeling. I don't think Sonic 2 and 3 have it, but 1, CD, R, 3D BLAST etc just kinda feel strange to play personally. Especially CD since it had a very strange yet good soundtrack.

As for the 3D releases I don't think there is much to say. SA2s plot was about the consequences of the goverment terminating a black project and all of the people that worked on it. 06 has a pretty weird vibe and story, with it being about in blunt terms the sonic anti christ and the islamic satan wreaking havoc on all of the earth. Soundtrack was a pretty big vibe too.


Overall I don't think its anything paranormal, just good/weird game design choices considering the early games were made in Japan.
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>>39570338
Japan is one of the most wicked places I have ever seen. I would rather be in Africa as those people have a place that is holy.
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>>39570352
The whole earth is wicked, people are just blind.
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>>39570352
Nothing against the Japanese personally. But their humor and culture is logically vastly different from the rest of the world which is why it kinda seems insane from the outside.
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>>39570413
Japanese media is so popular because its more sane than the rest of the world.
Rest of the world has just gotten used to corporate chic devouring their lives.
They're afraid of overtly caring about anything.
The whole world is insane.
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>>39570154
So I know anyone in the world can have a childhood with sonic in it, but I really liked sonic growing up. It definitely has an affect on my personality, and a lot of the traits that I would gain in life I wonder if came from sonic. I'm glad I had sonic in my life but sonic became the symbol of accepting mediocrity. Truly I use sonic a scale of "How good is media right now?" I know these games very well, adventure feels spooky, adventure 2 gives me the same feelings as revelations
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>>39570154
>creator says he can hear "the voice of sonic" in his head telling him to make a good game
What the fuck?
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>>39570493
Famous & rich people are frequently possessed by demons.
They gave up everything for 15 minutes fame.
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>>39570515
Where's the source for him hearing the voice of sonic though? I want to believe it's real but you're not giving me anything to go on
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>>39570529
Morio Kishimoto, the director of sonic frontiers
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>>39570573
Got a link?
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>>39570154
I'm pretty sure the s*n*chu characters are real demons, especially m*gi c*an
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>>39570595
https://youtu.be/IZyfQvOV_9w?si=ShZ96tgb64Um29iW
https://youtu.be/AFlW1a7RnXE?si=LZ-9OQOk1LhS-t0o
this theory is quite up your alley /x/. what are your words of wisdom
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>>39570154
>consoles are called sega, genesis, saturn, dreamcast
there's definetely /x/ implications to this
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>>39570219
Yeah most of them other than the few you mentioned are just too corporate and the energy isn't really there.
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>>39570154
>heavy association with Michael Jackson
Rather famously, the association was that Jackson pulled out of the collaboration when he saw the symbology in the game and decided he wanted nothing to do with it.
Sonic 3 btw.
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I don't know what Yuji Naka was smoking when he designed the original Sonic characters and games, but here's my interpretation.
>The Death Egg is equivalent to the Death Star from Star Wars.
They look similar enough, and they're both space weapons.

>Dr. Eggman (Dr. Robotnik) might be a reference to Humpty Dumpty.
According to this article,
>https://www.classicfm.com/discover-music/humpty-dumpty-sat-on-a-wall-lyrics-history/
>[a] theory is that Humpty is actually a cannon. During the English Civil War, history says, a one-eyed gunner named Thompson managed to get a cannon – colloquially called ‘Humpty Dumpty’, to the top of the tower of St Mary at the Walls church and wreak untold destruction on the forces below, before return cannon fire dislodged the pair of them. Hence “had a great fall”.
The Death Egg was thus always destined to have a "great fall" in the Sonic lore. The king's horses and horsemen couldn't do jack.

>The 7 chaos emeralds represent the 7 chakras.
Collecting all 7 chaos emeralds gives Sonic the ability to turn into Super Sonic. The original Sonic 1 on the MegaDrive had only 6 emeralds. There was no Super Sonic, back then. Super Sonic only became a thing in Sonic 2, in which they introduced the 7th emerald. The colors don't really match 1:1 with the alleged chakra colors but I don't give a fuck.

>In the lore, Dr. Eggman traps animals inside machines.
This may be symbolic of the risks associated with Meta/AI/neuralink and shit in modern times.

>>39570219
Yes.
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>>39572558
7 Chaos Emeralds is vaguely similar to the 7 Dragon Balls and Super Sonic is Super Saiyan.
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>>39572558
You're not gonna get the proper chakra colours anyway with the colour palette available to the Genesis.
The colour addresses may have been 16-bit, there was only so much memory for them.

Also do bear in mind that the Sonic games were developed years after Star Wars, years after the Borg in Star Trek,
>>39572585
Sonic 2 started development right after Goku first turned Super Saiyan in the manga and anime, so this influence is plausible.
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>>39572585
Yeah but we're not talking about how Dragon Ball is /x/. We're speculating the meaning to the significance of the number 7 and why "collecting 7" grants you power n shit. Could be as you say and Yuji Naka maybe just gave a nod to the Dragon Ball series, but it could just as well be that both Sonic and Dragon Ball are referring to the same concept here.
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>>39570154
QRD on MJ being paranormal?
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>>39572475
Are we sure it wasn’t the pedo scandals hitting at exactly that time?
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>>39573243
It was probably both
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>>39573243
both maybe
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>>39572644
he switched race with the power of manifestation alone, no one has ever been able to replicate that since
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>>39570413
I don’t pay attention to their humor. I pay attention to their cults.
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>>39574903
He didn’t switch races. He activated the nephilim genes in his dna and it freaked him out. He doesn’t like the idea of a white boy playing him because it feels like losing his entire identity.
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>>39572475
>Rather famously
Rather speculatively. ftfy

>he saw the symbology in the game and decided he wanted nothing to do with it.
What symbology is in Sonic 3 that is so damning?
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I always felt the lyrics of Believe in Yourself from sonic CD outlined the process of Jungian Individuation for kids.
"Inside your heart, you will find a special place to align
When you feel right, look at yourself
Inside your mind, you will see
Cosmic eternity"
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>>39570154
Sonic always weirder me the fuck out. Closest way i can come to describing the feelings it gave me are like that sort of screeching metal on metal noise/static type of thing happening from weird psychedelics.
Ive only had it happen a few times but it always gave me that same vibe. There are tv shows that gave me the same vibe from the 90s too.
Im guessing its dmt or some sort of dxm type of shit the creators thought was cool. Mario seems more fun and happy to me but is a theatric mind fuck in reality. Sonic and alot of sega games just give me weird feelings of emptiness, sadness, and lonliness mixed with mania.
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I've never played sonic but I like this thread.

here's what I could google
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>>39578579
I can't believe I've never seen that before. Thanks anon. That actually explains why Sonic is a blue fucking hedgehog holy shit.
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>>39572558
>>The 7 chaos emeralds represent the 7 chakras.
>Collecting all 7 chaos emeralds gives Sonic the ability to turn into Super Sonic. The original Sonic 1 on the MegaDrive had only 6 emeralds. There was no Super Sonic, back then. Super Sonic only became a thing in Sonic 2, in which they introduced the 7th emerald. The colors don't really match 1:1 with the alleged chakra colors but I don't give a fuck.
Undertale also has their own version of the 7 chakras and in the game if you have them all you can become a god.
This game also attracts autists. Coincidence? I think not.
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This vid seems to agree with a lot of what's in this thread.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7J8mxPAGbwM
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7 is a very esoteric number obviously. Lucky number, a prime number, etc. I think it goes back far before the emeralds, chakras, dragon balls.
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>>39578717
First of all anon, it's 6. 6 human souls. Asgore needs 7 human souls to break the barrier (which didn't happen, instead it was broken due to another reason due to Asriel, who is Flowey)

Second of all, does anyone find the Omega/Nightmare/Photoshop/whatever Flowey form odd? I clearly remember the internal name for the teeth on that thing being named after a myth about women who had vaginas with teeth.
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>>39580197
Also, Gaster. Literally fucking meant to be paranormal.

In lore, he was the scientist before Alphys, and he fell into the CORE or something (Which provides electricity in the underground) and still survived and became this weird entity.

He's also associated with the number 6 and speaks in Wingdings.

What implications does this have?
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>>39570154
>>39570202
>>39570336
>>39570515
>>39570573
>>39570689
>>39572558
>>39578579
>>39578717
>>39580216
Something something games with numerological and masonic/esoteric symbolism attract neurodivergent people
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sonic is one of many autistic egregores.
pikachu is another one.
combining egregores is a high inadvisable endeavor.
mickey mouse is probably the biggest one.
that's all folks nothing else to see here.
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holy crap so this is what it's like to witness schizophrenia in real-time. amazing
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>>39580265
welcome to your new job glowie hope you love discrediting here
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>>39570573
>Sonic is a demon summoned by nips
Why does that not surprise me
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>>39570202
yeah, i don't get why autists feel such a connection to sonic. i was in a bookstore and there was a weird girl reading sonic trade paperbacks and talking to the characters in the book like they are real. i already knew about chris-chan, but seeing this in the wild really made me wonder about this.
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>>39580539
Was she your age? bro, you turned down a sonic autist gf
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>>39570473
I think Japanese aesthetics are in the top 3 of all time. Definitely in all of Asia.
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>>39570154
What's up with the sonic game being paranormal psy op?? Lol it's just a game and no I'm not gonna pay to see the movie. I like everyone else would just watch it for free on Fmovies if I wanted to watch it.
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>>39580600
Bro:
>>39578579
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>>39578216
Mania was a pretty freaky game.
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Sonic 2 was also originally meant to be released under the name "Doki Doki Sanic".
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>>39570209
Maybe in terms of art assets and aesthetic. Sonic has virtually no game-challenge design going on. It basically plays itself.
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>>39570154
>michael jackson, one of the most paranormal people in history

If by this you mean to refer to the pedogate stuff he's supposedly tied up in, the only evidence that the FBI collected on MJ of child pornography, is an illustrated calendar from the 70s of kids playing around lakes in their swim ware. A weird fan sent it to him, and it was found in a drawer full other random cards and little books sent by fans. It's something and old lady would have up in her dinning room for totally innocent reasons, in a time where people's minds simply didn't go straight to thoughts of child abuse.
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Don't the sonic characters look eeriely similar to how alien encounters describe NHI?
>short and lanky
>big eyes
>superhuman abilities
>unnatural "skin" color or fur
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>>39580263
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>>39578579
bro
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Sonic is kinda like Jesus isn't he?
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>>39583495
FUCKING DELETE THIS RIGHT NOW!
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>>39585628
Not really. The one who came back from the dead is Shadow.
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>>39570219
Have you tried SA1? That game is still a little weird.
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>>39582412
Nah. Sonic is based around speed running challenges and perfectionism.
Mario entire health and power up system either makes you too weak or too strong in most situations. And the challenge comes in with the most frustratingly strict and boring gameplay possible.
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>>39583340
Yeah.
The Sonic Movies constantly referred to them as aliens.
Shadow himself in the third movie is treated like a Area 51 alien and looks at himself as a monster.
Notice they came in from dimensions instead of other planets. Like how recent alien theorist are concluding.
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Sonic Adventure 2 Chao Garden contains the mysteries of the human spirit.
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>>39570154
The sonic movies in particular are so kino.
I totally understand why some people are obsessed with sonic the hedgehog. It's straight up occult freemason programming, but the good kind. They are programming people to ascend spiritually. In one sonic movie they straight up name drop The Law of Attraction. The plots are all about healing from loneliness, bitterness, and trauma, and finding friends and togetherness. The games are about nature vs. technology, explores the nature of the id, ego, and shadow self.
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>7 (seven) Chaos Emeralds (Chakras?)
>Space Colony ARK (ISS?)
>GUN (AI surveillance?)
>Chaos Drive for enhanced AI constables (the enemy robots)
>Ancient pyramids, ruins, tribes (Tikal, Knux) and Chao creatures (possible correlation from previous game?)
>Doomsday message is broadcast through screens (BEN?)
>Final boss is unironically a giant draco/lizard bioweapon
SA2 really makes you think
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>>39585839
Idk SA1 is just boring as hell when I actually tried playing it again in recent years. Definitely sorta weird but mostly just feels soulless and devoid of any spiritual or energetic signifiance.
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>>39586125
birth, life, and death?
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>>39570202
>They just hit the nail on the head with the character design
Basically this, the colorful and stereotyped characters make it attractive to children and them being anthro animals is a plus for the potential furfag crowd, which just adds to the obsessive fandom that's kept the series alive even when Sega decides to release shitty or rushed games.
>>39586317
GUN are the armed forces of the series universe's NWO, which formed after alien threats or something. I think this is just superficial repetition of a trope rather than some deep, coherent messaging. Sonic storylines tend to do this a lot since story was never supposed to be their forte, other examples of these nods include the Star Wars/DBZ references pointed out by anons, themes from ancient mythology incorporated after the devs went to Mexico while working on SA1 and Sonic himself being conceived as the epitome of what japs thought was "cool" for Western audiences (which they'd mainly sell the games to) back then.
>>39578717
>>39580197
This is definitely a case of Toby Fox himself being a giga autismo rather than the game accidentally attracting autists. His earliest works were Earthbound romhacks lol
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it's just a game you stupid retarded nigger, stop digging there's literally nothing remotely paranormal to find in Sonic the Hedgehog
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>>39588185
Notice that when Toby Fox promoted more lesbianism and tranny stuff, his work ethic was far less productive than it was in Undertale and his hands became burdened. Jesus is smacking that Abraham kid for his degeneracy.
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Hmm, a lot of activity just to say Sonic isn't paranormal. Those people saying that his series isn't are trying for misdirection.

Anyways people were talking about the Chaos Emeralds so I'll say that everyone should remember the prayer Knuckles says in SA2 which was inherited from his ancestors (if I recall correctly Tikal says part of it in SA 1).

"The servers are the 7 Chaos. Chaos is power, enriched by the heart." This I a reference to Chaos Magick, among other things. And the movie Sonic 2 is even more blatant with how they explain how the movie version of the emeralds work.

Sega also refers to the series as science fiction. "Science" is also something a branch or two of Satanists swear to uphold. And emerald green is its most sacred color. The Master Emerald is, well, emerald. The 8th ruling the 7. Interestingly in Sonic Frontiers, only the Master Emerald is native to Sonic's homeworld as the 7 emeralds were brought from aliens trying to escape a world devouring entity.

Sonic characters favorite foods also tend to be mind control substances. Sonic likes chili dogs, Tails likes Mints (what changes the Nature of a Pokemon? Mints) Shadow likes Coffee, etc, etc.

Shadow's story is a lot like an adaption of Devilman (Beast Fighter: The Apocalypse), especially with his transformation in Sonic x Shadow Generations (his wing transformation was specifically said to make him look like a devil in interviews) and Shadow's titular game features him having an identity crisis and the player experiencing all of his facets until the true ending shows the path he takes. His biological "father" has 3 eyes (as well as a starfish alien he uses as a 4th), horns and when he transforms his forms are called Devil.

In Sonic 06, the enemies are Iblis (similar to Ifrit) and Mephiles and they are fragments of Solaris (a solar time god) that reunite back into Solaris whose desires have corrupted to merely destructive tendencies.

In Sonic Rivals 2, the final boss is Ifrit. Pt 1
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>>39589028
Pt 2

Sonic Unleashed has Sonic becoming werewolf like due to the power of Dark Gaia and its ties to the emeralds. His unknowing friendship with light Gaia saves him. Dark Gaia is the world's natural desire for destruction and Light Gaia is more of a preserver. Every so often they fight and Dark Gaia has "won" a few times so Sonic's planet is not even on its first iteration.

In Sonic Battle, when the game's central original character opens his/her/its 3rd eye (despite being an ancient robot) it gains the ability to use the full extent of copied fighting techniques and even combine properties of them together. It also has an interesting speech about becoming its model/species, Gizoid. It's spoken like it's becoming a demon or something.

In Sonic Adventure 2, the moon piercing laser is Emerald green.

Sonic's main cast tends to match its Illuminati personality color coding. Sonic : Blue: Warrior/clone. Tails colorations are for intelligence, knuckles is Red for magical power (emerald protection techniques and he kind of uses it to glide and he also invokes Earth spirits to attack with giant rocks/meteors in Sonic Battle), Eggman (his red is also magic power but this is a case where science= magic) Amy is pink (weakness for her original damsel role, then later just more associated with "love" which can get very twisted when it comes to the Illuminati version of that).
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>>39589028
Mephiles and Ifrit are basically God the father and the Holy Spirit.
Infinite is the Jesus. The only person of God who manifested in the flesh. Which is why all three of them share yellow eyes and abilities of immortality and time control.
It’s also why all three of them are themed after Fire and immortality.

Infinite’s theme song and design in general hints a lot of Jesus traits. He is an accursed animal, Jesus is the accursed lamb. He has white hair. He has signs and wonders that no one else but him can achieve. He destroys the earth with fire to rebuild it anew. He has a hatred for the world. He was born powerless then glorified. His original name is zero, making him the alpha and the omega. His face is obscured and his theme song has “I have been against better, just look at my face”. God said that Moses would die from seeing his face. When he came into the world, he taken over it and ruled it with Eggman, the representative of flawed mankind. This is completely different than the time Eggman worked with other gods.

Current game lore suggest that Mephiles planned for Infinite to come into the world by involving himself with the ancients and creating the phantom Ruby.
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>>39589156
You're a funny little friend of a certain faction of jesters, ain't ya? Your misinformation gives me more information at least as what you lie about tells were the truth you try to cover is.
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Sonic 1 has some occult connotations. Think of Sonic's journey from the natural world to Robotnik's industrial hellscape, symbolic of fallen man's aspirations to the condition of nature.

Consider Scrap Brain Act III. You already have to have collected all the emeralds from the Flammarion-esque Special Stage by that point to get the good ending. The principle of V.I.T.R.I.O.L. is at play with Sonic visiting the interior of the earth, then rising to defeat Robotnik and reunite the Emeralds with nature, thus rejuvenating it.

The Badniks can be representative of qliphothic 'shells' trapping the animals. Just spitballing here. Stay radical, dudes.
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>>39570154
Tryhard, the Thread
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>>39590244
don't you mean the hedgehog
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>>39591914
there's only one real hedgehog, nigga
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The glowies coming in to discredit this starting to make me think OP is onto something
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>>39589300
I don’t get it. I am simply a Sonic fan who has known these characters for a long time. I am trying to figure out Infinite ever since he came out, because everything about him is ridiculously different from anything else in Sonic, yet familiar Soloaris, the only character in Sonic that reminds me so much about the Israel God and his unique nature of existence.

Solaris (Mephiles and Iblis combined) is unbounded by time in the Sonic game lore. And in real life, only God has that property of genuine immortality. That when he died, he didn’t because that is against his nature. He is literally the only Sonic villain that works like this.

Infinite in general is a weird character who has a lot of Mephiles cues since his first appearance while not being him. Constantly, the dev team at Sonic connect them together in lore and mannerisms.

I wouldn’t be surprised if the Phantom Ruby itself (which given Infinite his powers) turns out to be female, cause of how powerful it is and the hint of it existing because of Mephiles interfering with space and time. (Shadow generations features a Mephiles fight, he gets attacked in the same ways Shadow defeated pre-glorified Infinite. The fight also showcases that the purple goo in chaos island (where the phantom ruby is created) and other locations of shadow generations comes from Mephiles.)

Basically, the phantom ruby represents the church of Christ, which was placed here since ancient times by the father (whom is represented by Mephiles). So when Infinite gets his Ruby, that’s the symbolism of Christ being one with the Church and then enforcing his wrath to the world afterwards.

Just listen to this song because the lyrics feel like the wrath of Christ: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XKjOJuPjiu4&pp=ygUbaW5maW5pdGUgc29uaWMgZm9yY2VzIHRoZW1l
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>>39570154
This thread came to happen for me to ask just 1 thing:

Why is Sonic blue?

Because he would be a completely other guy if he was yellow. Most popular figures are yellow. But yellow is the opposite of blue in the color chart. Sonic is supposed to be dismissed by any chance and by everyone, but he is popular even though he is blue. That is quite an anomaly in the realm he comes from and resides in. All the weird stuff about Sonic is because he is blue instead of yellow.
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>>39594760
blue+yellow=green

that's why
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>>39589028
>mind control substances
>mints
And coffee is just mild speed.
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Are the movies hard disclosure or soft disclosure?
>CWC gets a girlfriend when the UFOs start showing up



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