As the title asks, I'm wondering who this person was. Not the things he said, but who he actually was, why he vanished, and if he actually vanished. Was he even authentic?Are there any threads or is there any information I can search for to find these answers, like an obituary or something? Any info would be helpful.
>>39575858Thank you for sharing the image. I wouldn't know anything about that. But the shroud itself is fairly interesting. Some of the parts of the head, such as the puncture wounds line up with a separate relic, the Sudarium of Oviedo.Many tests were performed on the shroud to indicate its authenticity.
>>39575924Yes, the Vatican has all kinds of esoteric artifacts of Jesus, including his writings.
>>39576009A veritable treasure trove, to be sure.
>>39575853so you got the Templar Timothy Hogan videos showing up on youtube too?
>>39576067I don't. I'm not sure what that is or who that is. I just stumbled upon info involving this Vatican anon guy a few days ago and was trying to verify some information involving him, name what happened to him and if it was true.
>>39576122he claims to be a member of the actual knights templar and talks about jesus's bones and such being in the vatican.
>>39576136Oh I see. The subject of this thread is about something entirely different. I just posted an image of the shroud because in order to create a thread you have to have an image, so I chose it by random.
Might anyone have the news story of Vatican-anon's supposed death?
>>39576136>Jesus' bones in the VaticanIsn't that completely heretical for denying Jesus' resurrection and ascension?
>>39576556It is, but not everyone is Christian. The shroud is also evidence of the resurrection if one researches the information on it. It's old, has been verified as authentic, was in Jerusalem, and the imprint on it was caused by a great burst of light.
>>39576556he templars would need to be christians in the first place.
>>39575924someone had an AI made a picture of the man imprinted on the shroud
>>39577950Why did you have to darken his left eye anti-Christ anon?
>>39576122https://archive.4plebs.org/x/search/tripcode/%217OoIn52ZgU/https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/tripcode/%217OoIn52ZgU/He was a demonologist for the Catholic Church (not a priest but consulted on matters of possession and other demon involved activity). He had access to a library of demon literature in the Vatican (I think he said only 50 people have access), and he said he learned his theology from demons themselves (ie events around the Fall). He dropped a bunch of information on occult history and then he sort of doxxed the antichrist (kek).Go to his first tripcoded thread and identify him before he started using the tripcode and work from there.
>>39579664>vatican>demonologistsBunch of boyfucking cultists
>>39579664>he learned his theology from demons themselves (ie events around the Fall).Good thing demons are known for their scrupulous honesty and refusal to partake in any form of deception.
>>39579701He said demons don’t really lie, but rather use the truth to deceive.
>>39575853Here is the earliest I could find of him before he made a trip. This thread is a must read, but it’s a little hard to differentiate him from other anons. https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/36965964/
>>39576045https://svalispeaksagain.wordpress.com/2021/08/30/iii-how-are-the-jesuits-financed/
Yet another larper.
>>39580894> I wish that were the case. Yes low level entities normally something that you attract from a ouji board or drawing a pentagram and lighting candles or drawing demon sigil and praying in Latin those are just literal imps who will play up a big game as long as you let them but the second you invoke a higher power, literally any higher power, they will leave.The entity the person in question was dealing with is far more malevolent. There are areas of Christianity that are kept from the public for a reason. For example, if a person is done irreparable harm by another and the other is callous towards it, the hurt may call upon an entity that feeds off their suffering in exchange for slowly driving the person mad and then totally possessing them and then killing them. These beings are technically angels, and because God does not like callousness towards evil, are allowed to operate without His gaze so to speak. These cases are ramping up to which is another reason I have been scouring these boards. A normal person can not call one off. Nor could even the Holy Father himself if the wrongdoer was not truly repentant for the harm he has caused.This reads extremely legit. I doubt he was a larper.
>>39575853Please pray for me anons, my health is failing and am losing weight rapidly my digestive system is failing doctors say there is nothing they can do
>>39581666those digits...I do truly wish you the best.
>>39575853A real headbanger that needs to be shot with meds from a tranquilizer gun.
the drones bros..
>>39581981Holy shit…
>>39582183Hmmmmm
wat the fuk?This is profound.
any screenshots of said threads? his replies alone aren't as insightful as I had hoped.Wishing for some nice collages / meshes.Do your best, /x/
>>39581981>even massive UFO dightingsokay>to put Nomdak in check was the Carpenterhol up
>>39581666Quickly you nigger, watch all the podcasts about mythocondrial dysfunction and fucking change your life style asap
>>39581981Yea It says in the next few days you tard and that was February last year how fucking stupid are you people?
>>39582516He worked for the Vatican. “Days” does not mean within a week, a month, or even a year. “Days” is different to these people than it is to you or I.
>>39582580In no way it mentions what you're saying he even says years in the same paragraph I think he would would of said months. COPE
>>39582348I truly love each and every one of you guys, Male or female. Please ease your minds. Every Man that reads this I shall genuinely give hope into the aether of this reality we all call "home"
>>39582640Could be purposeful misdirection
>vaticanBoyfucking idol worshippersDid you see the lightning strike that hit the statue of peters with his keys?
the shroud of turin was the last grand master Jackes DeMolay. seek and you will get the truth
>>39582735This is wild. Finished in the 1600's. It stood for this long unadmonished ?
>>39582926>When Attalus, king of Pergamos died in 133 B.C., he bequeathed the headship of the Babylonian priesthood to Rome. The Etruscans came to Rome from Lydia (the region of Pergamos) bringing with them the Babylonian rituals, rites and relics. The Etruscan’s worshiped the god, satre who according to scholars is most certainly related to Saturn. Coincidentally, the first inhabitants of Italy were the Aborigines, who worshiped Saturnus. Hence, Rome and the Pergamos immigrants were theologically aligned in the mystery religion, worshiping the same false god – Saturn.>This Mystery Religion set up a pontiff in Rome which became the priesthood. It has always been the desire of mystery religions to control both the political and religious realms. This desire reached full fruition when the Romans accepted this pontiff as leader. Julius Caesar was made pontiff (Pontifex Maximus) of the Babylonian order in 74 B.C. Thus, the first Roman Emperor became the head of the Babylonian priesthood and Rome the successor of Babylon.https://carljosephministries.com/what-is-mystery-babylon/
>>39583568Interesting
>>39575853
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>>39585656>>39585707>media comms.
>>39579664I researched his material in depth. In the end, the guy is just a young man who was pretending to be the identity he presented himself as.Turns out he spent too long in the occult on these forums, namely certain-named generals, and got a touch of the paranormal and seemingly freaked out for a stint.He's a smart and imaginative lad, but there isn't anything official about him. Just some bloke having fun.
I appreciate everyone's replies and efforts! Thank you
>>39586376What a coincidence you investigated and decided for us,>just a young man who was pretending>spent too long on /x/>freaked out for a stintGee I hope the rest of us don't "freak out" for spending time on /x/, how horrifying.
>>39586376Thanks for doing that
>>39586376What an odd comment
>>39586402I was personally vested in this situation once I found out about it because it lines up with a real world experience I had.I'm possessed and had been in contact with an exorcist around this period of time. Strange things happen to me, around me, and because of me. Due to my extended exasperation and distress that I experienced reaching out for help, I unintentionally cursed or "judged" Catholicism, the exorcist who was helping me, the way Catholicism handles cases of possession and views the supernatural, etc. And this led to the exorcist resigning and the Vatican seemingly changing how it handles supernatural experiences after 40-ish years.So through this "curse" or "judgement" I also thought I got this poor man killed. So I was extremely sad and spent far too long trying to verify whether he was A. real and B. dead/missing.Turns out the guy was doxxed and what I mentioned about him being both young and freaked out for a stint are what the evidence point to.Unless you personally know something which it doesn't seem you do, this is the most likely truth and conclusion.I'm just happy I didn't accidently curse or judge someone and they died. I investigated for myself and replied with an organic response to a single person. Not you or anyone else. I didn't decide anything for you or anyone else.
>>39586424What? I did it for myself.>>39586435How is replying to a on topic person odd?People dabble in the paranormal and there's a possibility they're going to experience the paranormal.The guy was doxxed, I read a news article about him, and formed my conclusion based on the premise of the article that he behaved out of character.
>>39586459I'm the one who told you about this thread two nights ago before that other one was deleted. I told you my opinions on 3 different sides to the story one of which was the possibility it's all a larp, yes. "You investigated" well feel free to share, because anons already know that he was young, for example, yet he still vetted with knowledge and proof of his rank.Like I already told you, if you're possessed the last thing you need to be doing is coming here. Even anons can see your posts are "weird" and are trying to direct others, which is shameful regardless your circumstance.
>>39586475I wanted to find out if my curse or judgement unintentionally led to a person's death.A young man isn't going to be working with the Vatican. If the person who was operating the account was the one who was doxxed, which there's a strong possibility that he was because the account called him by that name, then the evidence is the content mentioned in the article about him.
>>39586502>A young man isn't going to be working with the Vatican.Kek that's a blatant lie. Have you by chance perhaps ever maybe heard of the Society of Jesus? They recruit in university and work to prepare for His return, and many say they keep in the Vatican's archives the true secrets and methods of Jesus hidden from the canon. VaticanAnon's trip was an abbreviation of theirs, IHS. Your argument proves nothing I fear, and I would so like to believe it.
>>39586524It isn't reasonably believable that a young man is going to be working as an expert in supernatural phenomenon at the Vatican. I'm not intending to argue. I simply replied to a post.But I'll bite. So is he dead or alive, and how can this be verified?If the guy is real and you have information that he is real I would like to know if he is real so I know if I unintentionally got someone killed. I can find out by contacting some people I know but I don't want to do that, and I don't intend to do that, because the evidence of the situation didn't warrant that and it would be embarrassing/out of pocket.My sole intention was that I just wanted to know if someone was real and if they were dead in order to alleviate my distress or know if I had to pray for them, take further action, and undergo some type of penance.
>>39586555Checked. When you brought this all up the other night you said you heard of Vaticananon because he worked in your region and was next in line on your list of contacts after the initial's bereavement. You told me you already knew about VaticanAnon from his work in New England, and that you were here to get more information about how VaticanAnon himself disapppeared. Yet now you're surprised and disbelieving he exists? Now you want proof he disappeared? Didn't you already know about his service from your offline activities?What are you really doing with this topic in these threads?
>>39586581>you heard of Vaticananon because he worked in your region and was next in line on your list of contacts after the initial's bereavement.I did not say that. I said I'm possessed and was in contact with an exorcist attempting to get an exorcism. I read about Vatican anon in a thread, which sparked my curiosity about him because there are parallels, not because I believe this individual himself was personally involved. That's what I was trying to find out.>You told me you already knew about VaticanAnon from his work in New England, and that you were here to get more information about how VaticanAnon himself disapppeared. Yet now you're surprised and disbelieving he exists?I did not say any of this.>What are you really doing with this topic in these threads?I stated this like three times.
>>39586610>you were here to get more information about how VaticanAnon himself disapppeared.Correction: I did say this part. But I also researched it myself while I was asking for information (aka also a part of research).I don't believe he's who he claimed to be, not that the person behind the account wasn't a real person making claims. There's a difference.
>>39586610>I'm possessed and need an exorcist>Here's my perfectly legible scholarly discourse about why OP is fakeNice backtrack. What a shame that thread and any proof was deleted shortly after we began discussion. What a coincidence most of VaticanAnon's or those about him are. I'm delightfully surprised this one's still going but that's never a good sign.
>>39586639Deleted threads are typically put in the archive. If you remember any keywords since you seem to remember the entire interaction itself, I can find the thread and post it.I was trying to find out if I accidently cursed/judged a person to death because it's an awful thing to have done if true. Is that not a valid reason for passionately trying to find out whether something is true? Caring about someone's safety and their soul?
>>39586656If that's the case and you are genuine, your mismatched theatrics tell me you care more about your own perception of your own judgment than its unbiased approach. Which does not make sense for one so intelligent to lack the basic perceptive or emotional skills to know that 1) if you've had no contact with the bloke you didn't kill them, or 2) if you're truly possessed the Lord already knows and understands your plight.So no, it's not an awful thing to have done even if somehow by some stretch of demonic possibility it was.Furthermore I think you've ignored clear signs of VaticanAnon's occult knowledge specifically in how to deal with demons, which does not add up considering your story and fear you are, no doubt, possessed by a demon (of logic and penmanship to be sure.)
>>39586684>1) if you've had no contact with the bloke you didn't kill themCurses/judgement/magic. A person doesn't have to be physically present to yield a result. Or do you think I, a random nobody, personally had the direct authority over the Vatican to force an exorcist to resign from his vocation and get the Vatican to change it's decades old approach to the supernatural?>So no, it's not an awful thing to have done even if somehow by some stretch of demonic possibility it was.It's still an awful thing to have done.>Furthermore I think you've ignored clear signs of VaticanAnon's occult knowledge specifically in how to deal with demons, which does not add up considering your story and fear you are, no doubt, possessed by a demon (of logic and penmanship to be sure.)The method to deal with demons is to not get involved with them. And if you do and become possessed, to seek an exorcism. And when one attempts to seek an exorcism there is a process of elimination to find out if the person is possessed or not.This typically involves receiving medical treatment and undergoing a psych evaluation in order to rule out other possibilities. Once that is addressed, it goes onto the next step.Other methods involve going to Catholic mass, receiving communion regularly, going to confession regularly, abstaining from sin (particularly egregious and mortal sin), performing deprecatory deliverance prayers, having your home blessed, etc.
>>39586729Sounds like you have heavy opinions on the matter and investigation wasn't going to change anything. Good thing you made a few posts trying to tell us what to think, too.
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>>39586502Vatican Anon disappeared after a thread where he Revealed Satan’s true name which he had previously said in other threads were a huge secretRevealed Satan was not an archangel but the first son of GodDenounced Francis as the Rock.His disappearance had nothing to do with you. He violated Rosicrucian and Vatican oaths.
>>39586771You put me on the defensive because you misinterpreted my original reply to someone as an attempt to publicly discredit an anonymous poster online.I'm simply addressing your posts to me. You made so many implications and accusations about me that I was compelled to reply in order to address them. That's typically how an interaction of this nature goes.I don't have any heavy opinions on the matter. I was just trying to find out if someone was authentic so I could know if I was unintentionally involved.There is an actual news article about the person that identifies him. Is the person in the news article Vatican-anon?
>>39586801>His disappearance had nothing to do with you.If he was real and if he died/went missing then it unintentionally had something to do with me in the specific way I already explained it.
>>39577950stupid sexy Jesus
>>39586816You popped up as soon as "Media Comms" got posted, you immediately discredited the news article because it gave no proof, you've changed your story from the other night, you provided the church's official stance and procedure on possession, you brought up the article a 2nd time to reframe it as deficient proof (which no one ever claimed it was), and now for a 3rd time you circle back to that article like it's a goalpost you need.And you expect to be treated with anything less than suspicion?
You two type exactly the same.Dude is having a convo with himself
>>39586875>You popped up as soon as "Media Comms" got postedI checked the thread because I saw it pop up on the front page while browsing X. I saw people replied, checked the thread out, and responded to someone.>you immediately discredited the news article because it gave no proofOn the contrary, I believe the news article. Someone went missing, was later found, and his parents said he was behaving unusually, which is either a sign of a mental problem or something paranormal (ironically the things he says he's a consultant to help figure out -- whether something is paranormal or secular and medical in nature).>you've changed your story from the other nightWhat story? Also prove I said anything.>you provided the church's official stance and procedure on possessionOkay? I provided what I was told to do and what I had to go through. What's that have to do with anything?>you brought up the article a 2nd time to reframe it as deficient proof (which no one ever claimed it was)Is the person mentioned in the news story officially Vatican-anon?>And you expect to be treated with anything less than suspicion?Feel free to treat me however you want. Sorry for caring about someone. Seems like you and others don't.
>>39586376I mean there’s a very very big reason Vatican Anon can’t have been a larp but we can’t really have that discussion without the thread being deleted.
>>39575853I have a deep feeling the guy was possessed. The fact he was religious but casually swore reminded me of accounts exorcists had of possessed religious leaders. It was too subtle; half truths interlaced with lies; stupid ones but done in a really convincing way such as with the romanian stuff and etc. I dont trust him; is the antichrist here ya but its not morgoth or who cares what. His avoidance of Jesus Christ calling him merely the carpenter and stuff like that smelled fishy. Plus the other demoniacs on here liked him which is never a good sign.
>mass-replying
>>39586916I already know all of that info and who the people are. I'll agree that the information he provided seems at least superficially persuasive. But apparently the guy went missing, was found, and is now fine.So regardless things turned out alright.
>>39586957KEK now he was found??? /pol/ never found him what are you talking about.Holy shit bros....
>>39586964He was doxxed. There are news articles and other web searches about him. His first name is also the same name his account called him. But I'm not going to dox the person. People can research it if they want.
>>39586976He was doxxed but is still missing, was never found. Now the shill is reframing this entire story to put a lid on it.We're fucked.
>>39586983Look it up. News articles and web searches claim he was found.
>>39586995I don't think you believe that any more than I do.
>>39586983>>39587012
>>39587023Again, that you believe that or bring up the word of the Fuzz as your next goalpost, published so conveniently after the massive shill response for a week after IHS disappeared, is definitely on you bro. I think differently.
>>39587089I know the identities of everyone involved. I can call the person people claim is Vatican-anon, the antichrist, and the witch and we can do a 4chan meet up.
Amazing how the thread goes quiet after that.Almost as if being able to directly verify things from the sources somehow also disproves it. But it would also be silly and unwarranted to do because there's enough evidence as is to make a reasonable proof claim.
>>39587311Hmmmmmm
>>39587023>most generic missing persons article of all time>no results from googling the exact string of text in quotes>nothing in the archiveshuh??;;?,,?where is this consensus that he has been doxxed, found to be fine etc coming from?
>>39587311Amazing how you think that rhetoric combined with your convenient relevance and appearance implies you 'won' something on an anonymous anti-Vatican / Zionist board.
>>39587402Someone misinterpreted my post and intent and decided to turn the discussion into an argument while continually reproaching me.So I got a bit obstinate.>>39587394Implication or not, the guy implied he was going to go missing, there was an article people used to claim the guy was missing, the articles then claim he was later found. Not sure what else to say.
>3D body creating a 2D imagegolems actually believe this
>>39587588have you heard of a carbon copy?god damn the amount of anons below the minimum level of intellect is astounding these days
>>39587311No, me personally, I shy on this real quick when I’m reminded how real world it is. If you’re right and it’s a larp we have nothing to gain by getting antichrist’s especially attention. But if you’re wrong and it’s not a larp and we wind up on his radar, you have literally everything to lose.
>>39587607Carbon copy is 2d on 2dGolem just spouts shitty deflection hoping you'll fall for it lol
>>39587763You personally? How is the antichrist going to find an anonymous forum-goer?And lol i'm not going to call the local police, Vatican-anon's school, and his parents to ask if this guy is larping as the Doogie Howser version of a vaitcan consultant and professional demonologist online. That's just silly and that type of extreme verification/falsification is unwarranted. Reasonable evidence is enough for me.Although I might slide into the antichrist's DMs and ask if he's the antichrist.But if you're concerned about getting on the Antichrist's radar, then how do you know it isn't me? I've claimed multiple times on this forum to be the antichrist, or at least involved in the concept.People have even paranormally died because of me, like I mentioned in this thread.So maybe you already did get my attention. What do you think that means exactly?
>>39587811ever dipped your hand into ink and pressed it onto a piece of paper you moron?
>>39587816I don’t think you’re antichrist. I tend to think an ancient being would have better things to do with their time than be on 4chan.
>>39587827Your palm is flat. The body isn't.It won't produce a flat image like a shroud of turin. Unless you believe christ has a panface.
>>39587816So after ALL of that,>I've claimed multiple times on this forum to be the antichristOy vey.
>>39587879>>39587923Then there isn't a real reason to believe a random person is the antichrist just because an anonymous person on 4chan said they were, and subsequently no real reason to be alarmed if you get on their radar.It's easily dismissed, as per both of your examples.
>>39587940>deploys prefab paragraph>'as you can see fellow anon'Yikes you went from person worried they were possessed and needed an exorcist, to needing to find VaticanAnon because he was referred IRL, to discrediting VaticanAnon and claiming he's not real, to offering shoddy proof he is and they found him and we can all go home, to actually you believed him this whole time because you've claimed to be the evil Antichrist before and have followed this topic for a while now.So, again, what exactly is your purpose in these threads?
>>39588034The person I replied to said that getting on the antichrist's radar would be dangerous. The criteria set for the antichrist is that an anonymous person online said someone was the antichrist.So I said I was the antichrist and was summarily dismissed because I use the internet and visited a website.The person Vatican-anon claimed to be the antichrist similarly uses the internet and visits websites.So by his own standards a person can dismiss a sense of dread in the antichrist by that specific criteria.>So, again, what exactly is your purpose in these threads?I've stated my purpose here multiple times. Just because I'm now arguing/debating something because that's what you, or others, turned the discussion into because of my one reply doesn't change one iota of the context.So I'm not just engaging the discussion how you and others are.
>>39588080>So I'm not just engaging the discussion how you and others are.*So I'm now just engaging the discussion...
>>39588080>doesn't fess up to a single accusation>'discussion'Oh you misunderstand my fren, my fellow, it is now an argument whether you want it or not.
he was a real NiggaThe follow up threads where people researched the things he said made me believe. The romanian connection, the going ons in the world, Trump winning again and wokeness beingg on it last legs, the Antichrist being a Femboy/Transphestite/Androgenous looking bitch. It all adds up to the Sauron connection. Admitadly it was corny AF of him to make all those Tolkien connections, but he was on to the truth. I am trusting my intuition on this one and believe him.
>>39588092That's what I said.
>>39588105Well, according to the most recent evidence he's still alive and well. So I'm not sure why he pretended to dramatize his death or that he was missing.He could still act as a whistleblower who dispenses knowledge if he wanted. A lot of the things he said were interesting.
>>39575853we can mutate the whole world into metal
>>39588137can you post any evidence?
>>39588137Don't reply to this shill they're all over the place.
>>39588149Yes, but you really want me to dox a college student?How do I post that type of evidence on a public forum in an ethical way?
>>39588157idk dude Is there a news article or anything?
>>39588156On the contrary, I'll engage with anyone who wants to. And I'll do it in good faith, using evidence and logic.I'm not dismissing anyone. On the other hand, you're attempting to dismiss me.
>>39588165Yes, several. But it has his personal name and information. That's what I meant by doxxing him.I already posted a snippet from one of the articles here:>>39587023
>>39588172>I've claimed multiple times on this forum to be the antichrist, or at least involved in the concept.>People have even paranormally died because of me, like I mentioned in this thread.No you've fed-posted and schizo shilled, faggot. Wdym by those things above?
>>39588188>Is on a paranormal forum>Doesn't believe in the paranormal, magic, or miracles.What do you think those things mean?
>>39588157I mean what do you say to this?>Stop using John’s words of warning for your stupid fucking nobody reboot. He was warning of a real person and you attention seeking whores couldn’t stand it. Yes the things he’s saying about weird celestial events are true but they have nothing to do with this garbage. John also did not go to Virginia Tech. John has been dead since the day after the final pol post. Stop using his words as evidence for your shitty larp.John isn’t exactly a rare name…
>>39588206No I believe that's possible, trust me, I'm wondering why we should believe anything you say when you come in here to shill the "truth" as a>possessed individual>claimer of the Antichrist >user of manipulative, two-faced rhetoric
The concept of a “harlot church” primarily refers to interpretations of the harlot described in the Book of Revelation, particularly in Revelation 17. This harlot is often associated with a corrupt or apostate church, typically identified as the Roman Catholic Church by some Christian denominations. The harlot is described as sitting on a beast with seven heads and ten horns, symbolizing a corrupt religious system that has influenced political power.Books such as “The Harlot Church System: Come Out of Her My People” by Charles Elliott Newbold Jr. and “The Harlot of Revelation 17 is the Corrupt Christian Church” by Olaf Hage explore this concept, arguing that the harlot represents a church that has strayed from true biblical teachings and has become a corrupt institution. These works often emphasize the need for believers to discern and separate from this corrupt system.The idea of a harlot church is also discussed in various religious articles and websites, which interpret the harlot as a symbol of religious corruption and apostasy. These sources often focus on the harlot’s association with political power, her luxurious appearance, and her role in leading people astray from true worship.It’s important to note that interpretations of the harlot church vary among different Christian denominations and scholars, with some rejecting the identification of the harlot with any specific church or religious institution.
>>39588211A full name is different than a common first name. It also can't be considered a mere coincidence that the John people doxxed, and the article they used to verify thatVatican-anon went missing when the account said he did, also happens to be named John and also went missing, and with the article being used to reinforce the narrative.But... the guy was later found. That's the only difference.
>>39588257a: the act of causing someone to accept as true or valid what is false or invalid : the act of deceivingresorting to falsehood and deceptionused deception to leak the classified informationb: the fact or condition of being deceivedthe deception of his audience2: something that deceives : trickfooled by a scam artist's clever deception
>>39588225You don't have to believe me. I don't care if you believe me. My intent here was not to get anyone to believe me. And I didn't use manipulative, two-faced rhetoric, and neither can you prove that claim.So idk what to tell you.The intent of the thread was to help me determine if a person was authentic and deceased. That was it. Everything else is just people turning the discussion into a debate.
>>39588269This isn't saying anything. If you want to question the validity of the article then star there.
>>39588225This man is suffering from grief. He’s in the bargaining stage. VaticanAnon decisively proved this guy wasn’t the antichrist so now he’s trying to discredit VaticanAnon so he can go back to his delusion of thinking he’s the antichrist. It’s not working so he’s trying harder to disprove VaticanAnon when other anons like you and me challenge him.
>>39588275>The intent of the thread.... was to give space for you to assume a variety of conflicting viewpoints to push the narrative that there is no narrative and everything turned out sunshine and butterflies ackshually. Is my guess.
If the anti-christ walks today its probably a woman or a tranny Im not the one gambling on wheter hell or heaven exists nor gambling on the limits of the gods forgiveness if there even is a limit. Whichever bot posted that judgment painting, thank you, its a very interesting work of art. Celebrities laugh when they say their probably going to hell, funny cuz they could just as easily have some remorse and ask their god for forgiveness, then again i dont think they worship anything, let alone believe a god could exist. Its all words to them
>>39588242In the Bible, Jesus says that Satan cannot overcome the Catholic church. And I'm not about to call Jesus a liar.
>>39588288Kek, yeah that sounds about right.
>>39588297I already explained several times the point of the thread:>>39586459You can either not believe it (the option you chose) or believe it. But that's the reason.
>>39588322I believe it, which is why I'm choosing not to believe (you).
>>39588307No but you act as if the father above cant change his mind when the keepers of keys go a stray and put celebrity cameos and indulgence above its purpose. Look my opinion holds no weight i just judge the hyprocrise because i too am a hypocrite.
>>39588288Ok, prove Vatican-anon is A. legit and B. deceased/missing. Using his posts to prove this isn't really evidence.If you have any direct cooborating info that what the user claimed was authentic, like his linkedin profile, and obituary, or office number or something that you'd expect a consultant and professional to have, then that'd be fantastic!Even the antichrist has social media. Surely a legitimate demonologist who acts as a private investigator and consultant has a digital footprint, a business, something.
>>39588354It's odd how you believe enough of it to pick out pieces as 'proof goalposts' yet are still demanding proof of it all. While also previously claiming to have both VaticanAnon's number and the antichrist's social media.
>>39588352>Numbers 23:19: "God is not human, that he should lie, not a human being, that he should change his mind."
>>39588371In debate when a person makes a claim that have to prove it. I already proved mine as best I could. The burden of proof is on you now to prove your claim.Do you have any type of evidence that I requested? You can say no, because I already know you don't. It doesn't exist. And if it did, you would've posted it.
>>39588371He’s a man at odds with himself. He doesn’t want it to be true so that he can go on believing he is antichrist, despite likely being later thirties at the youngest and done absolutely nothing of note that he should have done by now if he was.The biggest problem dismissing this outright >>39586916alludes to is WHO VaticanAnon pointed to. There’s more enough things about this person that really set alarm bells off like crazy, and I’m sure this poster knows that too. Anon who is possessed, thinks he’s antichrist, etc… rejoice you are not the Antichrist! He will be the most despised person in history! You will be free of that pain and there is still time for you to find Christ’s light!
>>39588414Whoa all that logic coming from the guy who thinks he's the Antichrist and killed a priest he didn't know existed until two nights ago?Nice try. Most of us lurkers were there when /pol/ made all those threads and your 'no proof' shill thread has only proven this topic is being subverted. Like always.
>>39588447That isn't evidence. If someone deemed the antichrist can have a social media account, then why doesn't a professional consultant for the government/FBI (ironic you called me a fed) and Vatican have a business website at least?
>>39588435On the contrary, if it was true and can be proven to be true, I'd like to pray for the man and help find him/make right what I probably unintentionally had a hand in through magic.But alas.In regards to the supposed antichrist. What specifically would make him the antichrist? Two slightly protrusive teeth that resembles fangs? His blue eyes? His association with rich people and celebrities as a model? Visited Romania?That doesn't itself prove a supernatural element, least of which enough to conclude he's a supernatural being with certainty.Plenty of models and social media influencers hobnob in those types of circles and people.Any maybe I chose not to do things like that since I'm contending with my current station and position in life. I don't know if you've ever been possessed, but to say the least it is extremely difficult to even do basic daily tasks under such a burden.The thought of death is even a comfort. But I obviously don't want to die while possessed due to the implications.
>>39588488Sir you never addressed the many accusations against your BS possessed antichrist story, how ever am I to descend to grace you with proof no one claimed existed but you?
>>39588564What specifically would you like me to address in regards to possession? I've already provided a lot information about it.I'm just asking that you prove your claim.
>>39587089>anime mascot for catholicism
>>39588578You haven't provided shit I'm afraid.You're the one trying to prove it's not real, not us. You still carry the burden of proof (like an ass.)
>>39588609So what evidence indicates that he's authentic and is deceased, if I may ask?
>>39588554> Two slightly protrusive teeth that resembles fangs?I’m going to stop you right there man. I’m almost afraid to ask this but what exactly do you think the antichrist is? Why the fuck would he have fangs?
>>39588659oh, sweet summer childe....
>>39588659That depends on what you're asking. Are you asking for my personal view, or what theology and history has to say about the antichrist?The antichrist is a person who is against Jesus in some way. Idk why the antichrist would have fangs. He might not. I'm talking about a specific person who Vatican-anon and others claim is the antichrist. And he has two protruding teeth that sort of resemble fangs. Or just protruding teeth.
>>39582500>>to put Nomdak in check was the Carpenter>hol upThose Carpenter Project threads rang a bell for you too?
>>39588694Do you have an email address? I don’t feel comfortable discussing these things out in the open. This whole thing is so much bigger than we can imagine. It’s the happening in 4chan history.
>>39589755Yes, but how will I know your email from someone else in case someone decides to troll? My email is MagnusCassini@proton.me
>>39581666Heavenly father mend Anon's body which You lovingly made. Anon you need to make your own prayer to the Lord for repentance of whatever is causing this and thanks giving. I love you.
>>39575853Fake. This is a psyop. They claim this is Jesus' face or something similar. I don't buy into that.
>>39576136He even talks about how these bones were actually extraterrestrial.
>>39591210this isn't about the shroud of turin, this is about Vatican anon.the shroud is another debate entirely.
those threads about the vatican cat were bullshit incredulous retards and larping faggots playing pretend for teh lulz
>>39591771>"But suddenly the Mirror went altogether dark, as dark as if a hole had been opened in the world of sight [...]. In the abyss there appeared a single Eye that slowly grew, until it filled nearly all the Mirror. So terrible was it that Frodo stood rooted, unable to cry out or to withdraw his gaze. >The Eye was rimmed with fire, but was itself glazed, yellow as a cat's, watchful and intent, and the black slit of its pupil opened on a pit, a window into nothing.
>>39589961Not the anon but I emailed you>>39589755And if you want to email me too: watermaxxer@proton.me I have some personal stakes in the grand scheme of things and would like to talk, if you're comfortable
>>39577950looks nothing like the shroud.
>>39576673They are, they're Gnostic Christians - which is the true Christianty protestants love to go on about.
>>39594226he literally denied the divinity of Christ.
>>39594485So did the Arians and other Christian sects. Your point?
>>39594218Blind retard
>>39576009
>>39596736what does it mean
>>39587563You're so fucking full of shit it's not even funny. unironically kys
>>39577950hashtag just brown person things
>>39597471stfu gringolos inteligencia artificial is going to protect us from the demónic entities and lead us to jesusmi abuelita saw a demón in her house and used chatgpt to perform an exorcism
>>39575858Of course.Of course they're pillars.Didn't notice before but it's obvious.
>>39577950That was a fucking litmus test if ever I saw one.Take information about the shroud, feed it into a machine learning algorithm, tell it to produce an image based on that input, present it to the world.Did they expect the world to say "look guis this is proof of the shroud being real"? Fuck no. Absolutely not.Did that happen? Fuck yeah. What a fucking disgrace.
>>39596736>>39598145Yes.>The keys that the Pope bore were the keys of a "Peter" well known to the Pagans initiated in the Chaldean Mysteries...The priest who explained the Mysteries...was "Peter"--i.e., "the interpreter"...Thus we may see how the keys of Janus and Cybele would come to be known as the keys of Peter the "interpreter" of the Mysteries...>The term Cardinal is derived from Cardo, a hinge. Janus, whose key the Pope bears, was the god of doors and hinges...>It was only in the second century before the Christian era that the worship of Cybele under that name, was introduced to Rome; but the same goddess, under the name of Cardea, with the "power of the key," was worshipped in Rome, along with Janus, ages before.
>>39586729>cathcucks invent demons>catholic priests cover up child rape in their cult for decadesSame as scientologists saying you have thetans.
>>39598546https://youtu.be/J7Ukfl9cj2U?si=7R3yDwPM5d0tej-9
>>39596968Those doors are from the Bank of England.
>>39599261Quote by Manly P. Hall>While the greatest minds of the Jewish and Christian worlds have realized that the Bible is a book of allegories, few seem to have taken the trouble to investigate its symbols and parables. When Moses instituted his Mysteries, he is said to have given to a chosen few initiates certain oral teachings which could never be written but were to be preserved from one generation to the next by word-of-mouth transmission. Those instructions were in the form of philosophical keys, by means of which the allegories were made to reveal their hidden significance. These mystic keys to their sacred writings were called by the Jews the Qabbalah (Cabala, Kaballah). >The modern world seems to have forgotten the existence of those unwritten teachings which explained satisfactorily the apparent contradictions of the written Scriptures, nor does it remember that the pagans appointed their two-faced Janus as custodian of the key to the Temple of Wisdom. Janus has been metamorphosed into St. Peter, so often symbolized as holding in his hand the key to the gate of heaven. The gold and silver keys of “God’s Vicar on Earth,” the Pope, symbolize this “secret doctrine” which, when properly understood, unlocks the treasure chest of the Christian and Jewish Qabbalah.
>>39593681Hold up are you telling me there is so much meat to this people are talking in private about it?
>>39579748That would be a lie
Where is Vatican anon? Why isn't he here to address these issues?
