First of all, thank you King Asmodeus.Onto the topic:I'm a skeptic and an atheist. Well, used to be. Still am ... kinda. A huge skeptic when it comes to most things.But demon are real.I'm saying this because I had 2 big wishes and they both came true. Not only that, they came true out of the blue, I didn't even do much, I literally didn't work nearly enough to deserve what I got.Literally got an amazing job that I couldn't even dream of before, and I got it randomly through comments on a social media site.And then I got promoted several times and even got a huge raise (days after I asked Asmodeus to help me get it).Holy fuck, it's all real. Isn't that crazy? Holy shit.I got so lucky I literally feel a bit nauseous, feels unreal, anxious that it's gonna come crashing down cause I don't deserve it.
so then you arent an atheist since those demons were Gods 1000s of years ago
>>39581329Is this bait or something how the fuck are you still and atheist you retard
>>39581334No they weren't. That's cope. They've always been demons.
>>39581341yeah it's an inaccurate term now but I'm still skeptical about a lot of stuff, just not thisStill refer to myself as an atheist cause I don't believe in the Christian God or even Jesus or even other religions, or hell even a lot of spiritual stuffBut since I believe in demons I do believe in some stuff
>>39581365Cultures and religions before the time of abrahamicism spoke of demons/evil spirits.The thing is, also when forming the brew faith and later christianity, the hebrew stope alot from other religions, before they adopted Zoroastrianism’s concept of a supreme god, hebrews actually worshipped mutiple gods, spirits, and ancestors.Have the people talking about angels and demons don’t know what their talking about.
>>39581410*hebrew*stole*halfTheres a shampooer going off next to me and it’s hard to focus.
>>39581365Well I hope you believe in Hell.
>>39581428The orginal concept of hell comes from Zoroastrianism and isn’t actually eternal, basically the flames burn away the evil from the soul and the soul go’d to it’s “perfected” body in the renewed earth
I will now explain deities from the hebrews orginal faith before integrating concepts from the Zoroastrianism faith starting with El.El>El was the chief deity of the Canaanite pantheon and is often referred to as the “father of gods.” The name “Israel” itself means “struggles with El” or “may El prevail.” In early Hebrew texts, El is sometimes equated with Yahweh, but over time, Yahweh became the central and only deity.
Mot>Mot, the god of death, was a significant figure in Canaanite religion. Although not directly worshipped by Israelites, his role as a personification of death influenced later biblical conceptions of mortality and Sheol.
Spirits and Ancestor Worship>Early Israelites also believed in spirits, household gods (teraphim), and possibly practiced some form of ancestor worship. These practices are hinted at in the Bible, particularly in stories involving teraphim (e.g., Genesis 31:19, Judges 17:5).
> Over time, Yahweh absorbed many of the characteristics and roles of these deities, and Israelite religion evolved into monotheism. This process was likely influenced by internal reforms (e.g., under kings like Hezekiah and Josiah), external pressures (e.g., the Babylonian Exile), and theological developments that emphasized the supremacy of Yahweh. The Hebrew Bible reflects this transition, with earlier texts containing traces of polytheism and later texts strongly condemning the worship of other gods.
>>39581334>>39581348No, some of the goetia were originally gods, some were jinn, and some are egregores. I won't say which one, but one demon was literally derived from Odysseus. You are literally summoning an egregore of Odysseus.Also, I think that the book of smokeless fire, or book of deadly names lists the original Arabic jinn names of the goetic demons.
Supreme Deity>Zoroastrianism was centered on Ahura Mazda, the supreme creator and benevolent god, contrasted with Angra Mainyu (the destructive spirit). The idea of a single, supreme, universal deity may have reinforced the emerging monotheistic focus on Yahweh as the sole god during and after the Babylonian Exile.
>>39581329Awesome. How did you summon him?
Angels and Demons>Zoroastrianism had a developed angelology and demonology, with benevolent spirits (Amesha Spentas) serving Ahura Mazda and malevolent spirits (Daevas) aligned with Angra Mainyu. These ideas likely influenced Jewish concepts of angels (e.g., Michael, Gabriel) and Satan as a distinct adversarial figure (e.g., in the Book of Job).Remember folks spirit doesn’t necessarily mean dead person, there are beings that always were spirit.
Dualism>While Judaism did not adopt Zoroastrian dualism directly, the idea of a cosmic struggle between good and evil may have influenced Jewish thought. The increasing emphasis on Yahweh as a moral god in opposition to evil forces (like Satan) parallels this theme.
Resurrection and Final Judgment>Zoroastrianism taught about the resurrection of the dead and a final judgment, where good would triumph over evil, and the world would be renewed. These eschatological ideas became prominent in later Jewish texts, such as Daniel 12:2 and the apocalyptic literature of the Second Temple period
Messianic Expectations>Zoroastrianism envisioned a savior figure (the Saoshyant) who would lead humanity in the final battle against evil and bring about a new, purified world. This may have inspired Jewish messianic expectations, particularly during the Second Temple period.
Ethical Focus>Zoroastrianism emphasized moral purity, the importance of ethical living, and the responsibility of individuals to choose good over evil. These ideas resonate with the Torah’s moral and ethical commandments, which became central to Judaism.
Historical Context>The Babylonian Exile (587–538 BCE) was a turning point for Jewish religion and identity. When Cyrus the Great of Persia conquered Babylon and allowed the Jews to return to their homeland, they came under the influence of Persian culture and religion. During this period, Judaism began to develop many of the theological ideas that distinguish it today, likely shaped by their exposure to Zoroastrian beliefs.>While the Jewish people retained their distinct identity and did not adopt Zoroastrianism, the contact with Persian culture provided a framework for reinterpreting and expanding their understanding of Yahweh, the nature of evil, the afterlife, and the ultimate destiny of the world.
>>39581329How did you make your wishes come true? Did you perform some kind of ritual?I'm willing to do anything to get the love of my life back.
>>39581329If there are 3 Hells "below" us, then there are 3 Heavens "above" us...
>>39581329Welcome to the club, is Asmodeus chill?
>>39581329>average "atheist"
>>3958161933 degrees of mind control
>>39581442Deeds of flesh - cleansed by fire
>>39581329>doesn't believe in God>works with demons to see if real>demons like: Perrrfect >later down the line possession >o shit>prays to God to save yourself Many such cases
>>39581596let it go buddy
>>39581478>Odysseuswould you please tell me who this demon is, or at least where i can read more about this subject? (i.e the formerly known names of these entities)
>>39581552All of this is so good, anon. I'm a former christcuck pastor and apologist turned pagan, and studying this stuff is what led me there. Ancient history and comparative religions are so important, and you nailed the co-opting of Zoroastrianism by the Hebrews during the Persian occupation. Such good info!
>>39581596>>39581489Sorry for the late reply, just woke up.Anyway, it was quite simple. All I did was make it a routine daily habit to offer things to Asmodeus. Things like working out and while working out instead of counting my reps I chant the enn. So like each rep would be one word of the enn.Or when fapping, I offer the act and orgasm to Asmodeus.Anyway, and then I just asked after a while. Focused, chanted the enn, asked. Doing that stuff became a daily ritual to me, didn't ask for anything, and then I just asked when I really wanted something.
>>39581329You are welcome.... but ... you surely understood that everything has a price.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6ExyB89gxY
>>39583755It’s not a demon.Look up the OdysseyLook up Egregore.He’s wrong anyway.
>>39584072Did you use a particular source for your offerings? Did you learn from book or video or something?Recently I'm getting back into chaos magick after not practicing for quite some time due to not being satisfied anymore with the paradigm I had been using. That said, back in 2020 when I was really practicing, I did get almost all of my wishes I had, so it was working.
>>39584350The demonolatry subreddit! you can find it by googling thatI basically took bits and pieces from different sources. No one source felt ideal so I just kinda went with what felt real to me
>>39584272>>39584272It's fine, I don't view demons as evil and wanting some unexpected price.
>>39584407Interesting. That's a very chaos magick method! Good to hear it's working for you.
>>39581329>Literally got an amazing job that I couldn't even dream of before, and I got it randomly through comments on a social media site."Thank you so much demiurge for supplying me with material wealth and possessions! I love stepping over my fellow man to serve the great orphan crushing machine! you give me food and sex and stability and that's all i really needed! fuck everyone else! :)"Well done. Now turn around and face the wall.
>>39584627Poast fizeek. Poast grimoire. You're nothing but a navel gazing dabbler, not even a real wizard. You have no orb. You have no real spells. The only spells you know are cantrips. Star Trek is for virgins and pedophiles.
>>39585086Prepared spell chuds seething ITT. I'd like to see you after you run out of slots.
>I'm skepticAnd I'm a faeryPic related, fae writs
>>39584627Gnosticism doesn't give a rat ass about your fellow man
>>39585086You take that back you mustard eater.
>>39581365>duhhhh I'm not christian so me atheist??You are not smart enough to post here without frying your brain, and I'd recommend you leave
>>39585194You don't know the sad reality of atheists?
>>39584429Oh thank you! Wasn't aware that's chaos magick, I'll look into that some more, ty!
>hey guys, athiest here.>also, I'd just like to heap some praise on my new god, Asmodeus
it's name is actuallyDomsayait told me...it's also a Dogethey're alright I guess...
>>39581329>>39581365Jesus is the LORD. Come to him.The demons use their best magics to attack him and no one else.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6QovsfJikwA&pp=ygURQWxpZW5zIGhhdGUgamVzdXM%3D
It seems like what the ancient ones called Angels and demons were just ayyys
Guys, I'm confused.If I believe YHWH exists, but refuse to recognize his godhood (or that of any other deity), am I an atheist or not?
>>39585862who's gonna tell him Asmodeus is the faggot demon?
>>39587152No that only makes you not Christian/Jewish/Abrahamic
>>39581329>King Asmodeus.He is allowed to aid in Revelations. He is allowed to eat those who lie down at his "feet". Beyond that, he is bound by a greater will.Worshiping him at this point is ill adviced.
>>39587334Alright, just replace "YHWH" with the list of names of every so-called god ever, because that's what the part in parentheses was supposed to mean. I believe they all exist, and I refuse to recognize anyone's godhood. Am I an atheist or not?
>>39587381You should really spend more time reading things that aren't imageboards or social media, friend.You aren't a materialist anymore, that much is sure. You're a demonolater at the moment, a literal demon worshipper. You prayed to Asmodeus and made this thread as a tribute towards him. A pretty fucking stupid move if you ask me, but nothing that's gonna fuck you up forever.
>>39584412Do you also consider the burning sensation that comes from touching a stove a mere illusion?You're in for some interesting times.
>>39587602I'm not OP.
>>39587612Ah, sorry. You're a deist, by the sounds of it. A deist who believes we live in a world rife with demons masquerading as gods.You believe in a creator but don't believe the creator has intervened at any point in the form of [insert deity here].
>>39587381Strictly speaking atheism is the belief they don't exist, so it still doesn't fall under atheism... I would guess this would be a non-worshipping theist, for lack of a better word
>>39581329Can you let your black cuck fuck your gay ass back to le^dit?!!You don't know what atheism is, your American interpretation is wrong and misleading, your gay ass seriously needs some demon anal, otherwise you wouldn't post such shit.Go fuck yourself, read the larp Readme, and stop contradict yourself in every sentence.
>>39583755Fine I'll tell you. It's Vine. Look at his attributes and how his name is actually pronounced. Scholarly solomonic magicians like Aaron Leitch who has written books and has lengthy blogs, I believe it was him, explained the whole story over at Studio Arcanis...that Vine is another name for Oddyseus/Ulysses. Basically that egregore demon was created and modeled after Oddyseus.
>>39581329Are you genuinely retarded? Why the fuck you gonna ask stuff from a demon known for raping the idiots too stupid to realize they shouldn't ask it to come over?
>>39581334they were never 'gods', anon. It's why jews keep trying to trick God. Spirits you can trick.
>>39581619There are much more on both sides.t. Knower
>>39584412you ARE retarded
>>39587602>Aaaah oooh>Ooooh aaaaah>You did a magick and paid the tribute price, so you're bad kinda :(>So accept my religion unquestioningly :)
Summon demons= the rage of Christian cucksSo if I summon yokai, you gonna get a Shinto priest?
>>39585862lmao. 100% this guy is some demon proselytizer
>>39588478See>>39588462
>>39588428But I didn't recommend a religion, anon. I just know from experience that playing around with the Goetia as haphazardly as OP seems to be doing never ends well.
>>39588918U sure m8? They give it to kids these days
>>39584627Collectivists are garbage men.
>>39588957That book is cute. I found a copy on Scribd, and wish I had it when I was 12.
>>39581329King Asmoday used you to make this appearance.What are his intentions?
>>39588957It’s trivially easy for kids to get access to porn now, too, but that doesn’t mean these are ideal circumstances.Cracks me up that anyone can call this stuff occult or esoteric with a straight face anymore.
>>39581329Better keep your end of the bargain. I was swimming in pussy then got fucked and sent to jail. Luckily part of the pact was no prison time or convictions. Still had to pay 2 grand. Honor your pact and show due respect
>>39581329They give and they take away.Be careful, there are, let's say spirits, that fix you on something so that they have a bargaining chip on you. Think of the caricatures Schools used to display drug dealers.Of course it's rather rare and often it's more like a pet relationship in a sense that you're an adopted stray... we humans are endearing in our bumbling innonce and curiosity, but still; our reality is defined by its non-permanance.Just saying, be preprared that those blessings have limits in our reality. They are undoubtly powerful, but the edict of change/chaos is (paradoxically) immutable.
It just makes you schizo. Demons are delusions.
read jung
always wondered how demonologists and other trannies logically explain demons without god. there is literally no other explanation for their existence besides what the bible says. it makes perfect sense and all yoyr info comes from ancient christian/judaic theology
>>39587152You might be buddhist
>>39594988what makes you say so
>King Asmodeus.daemon name of the angel micheal my twin brother my daemon name is balial btw.lol , lmao even.
>>39595043I'm Cainite.A gnostic.We kind of worship the Monad and Darkness.Todays meditation, Visualize with full concentration recreating every scent and detail how a rottweiler that's rotting alive because of disease anally rapes virgin Mary, hear every sigh of despair and every aaah of pleasure, finally, visualyze the coom dripping.
>>39597059how do you figure out what your daemon name is?
>>39597112you can find your Evil Demon's name and Genius Demon name using Agrippa's method
>>39581329You're not atheist. You're anti-theist. You're okay with higher authority, as long as it's not God.
>>39597337NTA but nice, any handy links/instructions? The ones I found linked to long dead domains
No.39597112i didn't i jsut attacked every dameon name untill damage came back at me using magicthen i knew it was my name lol.also i knew micheals because i summoned him>protip if you summon angels to hell >you have to know their daemon name.I'm not the smartest angel out there.I just attacked everything untill i got smacked by my own magic missile.that's how i found out.I have two daemon names because me and enlil share the same soul lol.so geting hit twice with both samael and balial was very painful.but it was the only way i could know for sure.as no one else has a powerful attack enough to break my shieldoryou could get anons to summon all the daemonsand when you can hear that anon in your headafter a certain name is read, its probably you.as only watchers have daemon names. and there are only 72 of us in sol system its not hard to get us mixed up.I wasn't lying by the way.you can only use daemon names in helland only angel names in heavenits a hack to summon your self anyhere in the spirit and material places where your soul can teleport everywhere even accoss time and space in singel quantium second.but thing is daemons have to give you that name you can't call your self that name. it has to be given to you to be legit.same with heaven.then you just get some dumb fuck mortal to summon you and you can be anywhere in the cosmos in quantium seconds soul teleport is so useful.its also useful to get out of being killed as well as you just teleport into another body. kek.dealth is meme for angels and daemons btw.pretty neat trick IMO.
Demons are disembodied spirit of Nephelim, sons of human women and rebel Morning Stars (Watchers, angels). They have some power of divination due to their half-divine nature aka seeing into the possible futures. This is the services they provide to mortal puppets. Market predictions and such. A lot of world special services and big corporations resort to their services through rituals.Unlike humans, they have no birthright of Earth (no claim of land) or "citizenship" in Kingdom of Heaven. Since they have nowhere to go, they roam the Earth unable to satisfy their bodily desires. They are content inhabiting bodies of swine since those can eat and fuck, it's why pork is haram in Abrahamic religions. But make no mistake: they want YOUR body. And if you invite them in by any means - they WILL take it from you. If you ever had sleeping paralysis - being possessed would be 1000 times more horrifying, and permanent.I urge you not to dabble in the demonic shit, of course it's real, doesn't mean you have to do it. Demons are less than you and have less rights, don't lower yourself. Unless your ancestors had 6 fingers and excessive height, then you're irredeemable.
>>39597437Only some are. Others are actual Watchers. And if you go far down the line just enough, you can find that some come to you specifically because you're related by blood.They can offer much more than divination. Manipulate chance, persuade people for you, help you find what you need. They're powerful and not always outright malevolent.
>>39597337>Agrippa's methodwhich is?
>>39597449>Others are actual Watchers.Watchers are currently in "Abyss\Tartarus" which I assume is deep past, with ban on time-travel. It would require a strength of organization or a cult to communicate with them. And they have a body alright, they can manifest just like their loyalist counterparts, just not here/now.>related by bloodI'm Scythian, there is no Raphaim blood in me.>They can offer much more than divinationNo doubt.>They're powerfulThey already lost war for eternity. I won't say they didn't have a chance: being so intelligent would not commit unless there was at least some hope of victory, but they did lose.>not always outright malevolent.Come on now. Humanity are sanctioned ruling class made "in their image". Watchers are outright rebels trespassing into our feudal domain. It's a difference between probation and conviction. And Nephelim are right-less bastards.They fucking hate humans and mingling with them would bring you nothing but trouble. Of course they would masquerade themselves as "Universal Masters" and whatnot because they cannot admit "we're here to subvert and usurp you".Next time you're tempted, think of why did such powerful and wise being brought themselves so low to mingle with puny and pathetic humans like us and produce progeny. Not out of goodwill. They wanted and still want OUR shit. Don't give it to them.
>>39583783What kind of rituals do you perform? Somewhat curious about your practice.
>>39581329Demon poster spotted, this is a fake scenario about a fake human being (you are not real). Nice try I bet you are some little minion in a small part of the legion. I demand your name or suffer my will.
>>39597484>Watchers are currently in "Abyss\Tartarus" which I assume is deep past, with ban on time-travel. It would require a strength of organization or a cult to communicate with them.They absolutely can pull you if you're temporarily out of body, and once a link is established they can communicate freely. It isn't rocket science.>They already lost war for eternityPerhaps, but they're still actively rounding up their children to try.>They fucking hate humans and mingling with them would bring you nothing but trouble.Not necessarily, but I do agree that we're instrumental in the war and they want something out of us.
>>39597405>>39597458https://theomagica.com/s/theomagicasGeniusEvilDaimonCalculator.xlsxOr go here https://theomagica.com/tools and scroll down then download the Evil/Genius Calculator
>>39597511>if you're temporarily out of bodyI wonder who would like to have my body while I'm out of it. Perhaps for one of his children to wear.>still actively rounding up their childrenWhen you've already lost the match but want to at least score some goals before the end, purely out of spite and sunken cost fallacy. What else could they do? Even if they lay down their arms, they will not be pardoned anymore. Everything they can do is fight until inevitable bitter end, and make it look like they have a chance to garner support.>instrumental in the war and they want something out of us.They cannot rule our domain directly. It is ours, and we need to surrender it to them willingly to their hybrids, or lose our humanity, before they can rule it. And they have no women of their own. Procreation was a gift given to us in exchange for downgrade in other faculties. 1/3 of Heavenly Host defected with Dragon/Watchers. They have a numbers disparity that they are trying to close before final kinetic confrontation.Humanity is going to be tempted into transhumanism and witchcraft until re-fleshed Nephelim bastards are the humanest humans on Earth and therefore have feudal rights to it.You are welcome to play into it, because both them and us are free to be wrong and stupid. Just know that you're playing for the losers team. Whoever wins war for eternity - gets to write history, and the victor was already determined.
>>39597549How do you know demons will lose?>Muh bible Lore lesson: Mariam, of blessed womb, became Mariam of ex-blessed womb by being turned into a vampire and accepting Darkness. Still Yeshia ha Masiach tried to be born into Mariams womb, yet, being a vampiress, she gave him as a sacrifice to the Dark Lords 9f vampires.And by the looks of it, that brat will pester us no longer, as crucifixes don't work no more on my vampiress ass.T. Mariam, of ex-blessed womb.Don't chalk to a larp what may be true.
>>39597694>How do you know demons will lose?Demons are fucking nobodies in this war. Footsoldiers wearing semi-human skinsuits. Dark Stars Rebels fight the war for Eternity and they've failed to seize critical timeline junction points again and again. Then they got locked in "Tartarus". Those are not winning side moves. They have nothing going for them except human complacency and it will not save them.>Muh bibleYes, Bible, corroborated by scriptures from "the other side" like ones from Didanu and Raphaim worship religions. Bible, when read in correct historical-cultural context, corroborates all ancient "gods & Demi-gods" myths because they all stem from the same region. Most importantly, myths of gods laying human women, producing demi-gods, demi-god giants consuming humans, corrupting animal kingdom and flood wiping them all out, turning into djinn or evil spirits, but told from the other side of conflict.I know that "demons" are losing because in each of those myths, legends, folklore and religions, small g-gods needed a coalition and outside help to defeat "chaos beasts" like dragon Tiamat, struggling to bring order to chaos. God didn't. He solo'd Liviathan no problem.You going out of your way to play for the losing side that hates you is an epitome of human stupidity. You do you though. Who am I to stop you from making mistakes? Free will. Not consequence-free though.
>>39597740I killed your lord
>>39581329dæmons*
>>39583783It really becomes palatable with enough research and being above room temperature IQ. Intelligent people are often held back by the world bias and indoctrination
>>39597750It's funny that those are the words you chose to mock a Christian, when nobody ever really dies in the Bible.The Great Red Dragon, his 7 princes, Watchers, disembodied spirits of Nephelim, Humans, Christ - nobody ever truly ceases to exist.How they end up spending eternity is another question.
>>39595043They exist in Buddhism/Hinduism well before Constantine and Eusebius made cosmocuck homo religion 1.0
>>39597437Nephelim is Jew lore. Say Demigods or Asura. Stop spreading stupidity
>>39597484God said they couldn't be released so they possess people. However the Watchers are just the Titans
>>39595043Its their trick plan. The Great Work. First deny God to destroy Christianity and erase memory of the Fall and Flood. Then present gods & demigods as saviors of humanity and arm as into soldiers to fight against forces of God.>>39597892>SayI will call them what I want. Demigods is appropriate too, because God does indeed call Watchers gods.>>39597900God sent Enoch to Watchers to pass along his message:1) you will be convicted as traitors2) there will be no place for your sons in heavenMeaning Watchers did intend to hijack human procreation to create semi-divine spirits, hoping those would in the end, some way or the other, be accepted into heaven to live there along their fathers. Didn't work out. As such, "spirits that cannot enter Kingdom of Heaven are bound to roam the Earth, starving but unable to satiate themselves" that is interpreting Bible loosely.Then God sent the flood an after, he sent Jews to finish off Nephelim/Raphaim/Didanu, Palestini and other bloodlines of Watchers in Levant.As to the Watchers themselves, God told angels to hold Watchers down while Titans/Didanu, their giant progeny, kill each other at the end of "Golden Era" in an instigated war, which was happening for hundreds of years before the flood and is recorded in Hindu epochs.Then, after Watchers had to watch their sons kill each other, Watchers were "thrown into Abyss" and chained for "thousands of years". Watchers have glorious angelic body of their own, they have no need to posses humans. It would be a huge downgrade. They might fuck human women though because they have none of their own and want to create more soldiers to fight against army of God.>However the Watchers are just the TitansYes and they're in Tartarus, their half-breed progeny Zeus/Baal (storm god) "usurping" them. While in reality after they were imprisoned, what followed is a chain of their demi-god Kings ruling over human nations, until they were wiped out by war and then by the Flood.
>>39597875Sorry to burst your bubble
>>39597875You don't get it, do you?
>>39598028Surely you are not alluding to your petty darwinism-witchcraft-new-age temporarily hijacking mainstream of humanity' culture and "triumphing" over theist Christianity? Because that would be pathetic. Unless you just larp because you are a newfag that came here for succubus threads and doesn't know how to take /x/ seriously, that's even more so.
>>39598045No, I mean gnosticism is real (Cainite) and the gnostics grabbed the fetus of Jesus.
>>39598127>CainiteYou mean the Lawless ones who welcomed Watchers onto Earth? Like I said: everyone gets to choose how they spend eternity.
>>39598130And we grabbed Jesus :)I assure you I'm Mary, mother oj Jesus :)In any case, it sure is absence of jesuses rn, isn't it?
>>39581329>>39584072info on Asmodeus that you might find helpful: >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6kPGS-PiqI
>>39597549>Even if they lay down their arms, they will not be pardoned anymore. Everything they can do is fight until inevitable bitter endThat's the thing. I know what it feels like. I feel it. To only be able to look at that bright home from a down below. And there is no hope of ever returning. How it twists and corrupts over time, down in the dark.I don't know what I've done to deserve this. If you tell me they can't be born then I can't be one of them directly. But I know they're related to me somehow. And they like me.
>>39597541Thanksss, will try when I'm home
>>39581329I think your point of view might need some expanding. I recommend reading the book of smokeless fire; it's a much better read than the lesser key of Solomon, and it expands what you already know about these goetic entities quite a bit. They are beings of pure, unbridled chaos who exist to burn off the dead forest of order so that new growth may arrive. They serve a "holy" purpose in a sense, but they are energies composed of pure blackened hatred and darkness who actually hate judeochristian sorcerers because crowley's methods involve a lot of demanding that will be done and threats of denial of manifestation should will not be done. Crowley's magic is like a spoiled kid demanding treats and threatening to tell mommy to these beings, though they will oblige a magician if it means spreading pain. The book of smokeless fire details a way to convene with these Djinn that is mutually respectful and less dangerous to the magician; its methods involve inviting the dark snake of chaos into yourself and meeting these Djinn as equals, as warriors stuck in an eternal fight between order and chaos. What you have to offer these beings? Your blood. Your "permission" to carry out their malice against targets YOU choose for the purpose of regaining lost ground for the forces of chaos, thus bringing equilibrium. Evil is not Chaos: evil is not order. Evil is order OR chaos denying expression in its shadow. The Taw Djinn (Goetic daemons) are forces of chaos and sometimes they are needed. The lesser key is a wishbook for magicians. The book of smokeless fire is a spiritual weapon of unspeakable power.
i used to call spirits and then i had nightmares. i would already abandoned "god" and went full spiritism but this shit makes me suspicious. they don't seem to be good.
>>39598702Adding to this, reading the book of smokeless fire, it becomes apparent that the only thing spirits like "Asmodius" (also called Habshahesh, an ancient and powerful Djinn) care about is causing death, despair, madness, pain, suffering, and waste. Their Goetic alter egos may offer you things, but this is a communion trap. The more time you spend around these dark and malevolent beings, the more they corrupt and stay within you. This communion has some real advantages, but comes at a cost few are willing to afford. You are just as viable a target to these beings as YOUR targets. It is therefore advised by this humble person that when working with daemonon, you do not ask them for abstract favors or favors that have a persistent nature. These favors come with a caveat of long term contact you do not want. Simply ask the djinn to destroy your enemies, specifically by name and specifically by fate and specifically by x time at x place. Say "we are done here." And be done. Never lower your sword. Make it clear you will strike precisely once and only once and you will slay all who threaten you. The Asmodius will like this very much and you will be very safe.
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>>39587152You just need to take your time to know him.
>>39581329>wow a demon granted me earthly wealth you guys should know it too for some reason
>>39595043We don't.We know stuff you don't know.Simple as.
>>39581329you did it. read neville goddard. don't feed a thought form you fool
>>39594884Weird, you sound sane but you appear to have much familiarity on occult entitiesCould you tell me where to search for these impossible things ? i think getting to know what i consider impossible to be possible would shake me up a little
>>39599084k retard
>>39601393As you said, it's likely impossible to truly know or understand.I dislike this metaphor because it's over- and abused by common rhetoric, but imagine a person born blind and growing up. This person has no true concept of color. Now imagine an entire society of those blind people. There's no definitive way for them to prove that color even exists, at least not in the way we commonly understand it. You can't measure something if you don't know what you are looking for in the first place. In the end, it doesn't actually matter if they grasp the concept or not. Whether by design or happenstance, they just aren't able to fully comprehend it.Doesn't mean they can't try, right?We are that race of blind people.If I'm honest the journey to try to find understanding isn't that exciting. First you have to understand who and/or what you are. Meditation, Introspection, there is a reason why every spiritual community has these, or at least some variant of them.Once you know where you begin and where you end, you'll be able to discern the other from yourself. With that you've developed your figurative sense of touch, you are free to stumble blindly along the path of your choosing. Most consult ancient texts and retread well-worn paths, but there is a certain beauty in being blind, the void. Just like with an empty paper you can manifest your ideas onto it, and ideas are very much real. They affect our lives on a daily basis. Same with your idea to search for the impossible. Just be honest and open with yourself and you'll be fine regardless what path(s) you ultimately choose to follow. There's a concept that the divine spark and the material vessel can become beacons and safe havens for one another, working in tandem and transcending their given/assumed roles as jailor and captive. But that's neither here nor there, just me rambling.
>>39581329>(days after I asked Asmodeus to help me get it)how did you do that?
>>39581329I wished my sigil would look more like this. I feel like mine is kinda of tacky.
