is karma or reincarnation real? is there a way to know what i must've done in my previous life to deserve what i'm getting? can i somehow make up for it?
>is karma or reincarnation real?Karma is real, and it continues after Death.>is there a way to know what i must've done in my previous life to deserve what i'm getting? Just about everything people believe about their past lives is pure speculation. You can know all your past lives with certainty only much, much further down the spiritual path. Like, after you've become the Buddha... then you can know. Until then, don't worry about it.>can i somehow make up for it?Yes, that's the point of Karma and Reincarnation.
>>39590962Karma is real but not reincarnation. Karma, understood in reductionist terms, is simply the butterfly effect of your actions and psychic state rippling through the world in a complex dynamic manner and coming back to you with emergent disproportional effects.It's not the sins of your past lives which are affecting you in this life, but this sins of your ancestors. Adam fucked shit up and sent bad karma rippling through creation in a never-ending, self-propogating cycle. The way you stop it is to not allow evil to be propogated through you. When somebody cuts you off on the road, let it go. Don't let it piss you off and make you an asshole to others. That shit spreads like wildfire. Love thy enemy and forgive thy transgressors.
>>39590962It doesnt really matter.Every system that incorporates karma also says the whole point is to GET OUT of karma and reincarnation./And the way to do that is to NOT bother with karmic minutiae and try to "figure out" all the ins and outs. Rather, the way to get out is to detach and drop the whole thing.Karma is a Gordian Knot. It is futile to try and untangle it. You need to cut it in half with the Sword of Knowledge.
>>39590999i feel like my even my birth was the result of bad karma, it was over from beginning. i couldn't have done anything in this life to deserve it.
>>39591010We are all born in sin and corruption. That is why Christ became incarnate as the first perfect man, who absorbs humanity's karma and ceases its propogation. He gave us a path to get out of this never-ending cycle by uniting ourselves to Him.
>>39591033Just the first for the Jews.
>>39590962Karma is the tapestry of causality in which everyone and everything are tangled together. Reincarnation is a natural outcome of that dynamic, and yes, you could technically become aware of your causal background and foreground, you're not intended to though.
>>39591033Cuhringe
>>39590962Sure it is.
>>39590962"When the mind was thus concentrated, purified, bright, unblemished, rid of defilement, pliant, malleable, steady, & attained to imperturbability, I directed it to the knowledge of recollecting my past lives. I recollected my manifold past lives, i.e., one birth, two...five, ten...fifty, a hundred, a thousand, a hundred thousand, many eons of cosmic contraction, many eons of cosmic expansion, many eons of cosmic contraction & expansion: 'There I had such a name, belonged to such a clan, had such an appearance. Such was my food, such my experience of pleasure & pain, such the end of my life. Passing away from that state, I re-arose there. There too I had such a name, belonged to such a clan, had such an appearance. Such was my food, such my experience of pleasure & pain, such the end of my life. Passing away from that state, I re-arose here.' Thus I remembered my manifold past lives in their modes & details."This was the first knowledge I attained in the first watch of the night. Ignorance was destroyed; knowledge arose; darkness was destroyed; light arose — as happens in one who is heedful, ardent, & resolute. But the pleasant feeling that arose in this way did not invade my mind or remain.
>>39591197"When the mind was thus concentrated, purified, bright, unblemished, rid of defilement, pliant, malleable, steady, & attained to imperturbability, I directed it to the knowledge of the passing away & reappearance of beings. I saw — by means of the divine eye, purified & surpassing the human — beings passing away & re-appearing, and I discerned how they are inferior & superior, beautiful & ugly, fortunate & unfortunate in accordance with their kamma: 'These beings — who were endowed with bad conduct of body, speech, & mind, who reviled the noble ones, held wrong views and undertook actions under the influence of wrong views — with the break-up of the body, after death, have re-appeared in the plane of deprivation, the bad destination, the lower realms, in hell. But these beings — who were endowed with good conduct of body, speech & mind, who did not revile the noble ones, who held right views and undertook actions under the influence of right views — with the break-up of the body, after death, have re-appeared in the good destinations, in the heavenly world.' Thus — by means of the divine eye, purified & surpassing the human — I saw beings passing away & re-appearing, and I discerned how they are inferior & superior, beautiful & ugly, fortunate & unfortunate in accordance with their kamma."This was the second knowledge I attained in the second watch of the night. Ignorance was destroyed; knowledge arose; darkness was destroyed; light arose — as happens in one who is heedful, ardent, & resolute. But the pleasant feeling that arose in this way did not invade my mind or remain.
>>39590962Maybe this simulation tries to trap you using your weaknesses. For example if you have a short temper yet are frequently confronted by angry demonic people or stressful situations that seem as if they have been designed to make you angry, maybe the simulation is trying to get you to commit violence. Maybe it already succeeded once, perhaps several lifetimes ago, and got you to do something very bad. You might have to live many lifetimes without fault to atone for it, all while the simulation won't easily let go of its prey.
>>39590962This is Hell. You are here for eternity. When you die, the Universe will continue until its death and rebirth, and at some point, you'll be reborn into the same life. Again. And again. Forever.Get comfy.
>>39591176You can't see it from the outside, but this man can get blown by 3 chicks at the same time without feeling anything except how worthless he is.
>>39590962"Karma" is just the word that God uses to describe the excuses that he manufactures to abuse me but he will abuse me no matter I do and his excuses almost always make him more evil because they're based on lies or general unjustifiable behavior from him, like believing he should be allowed to abuse me because "he's better than me" then "karma" is him abusing me more when I fight back against the initial abuse. God is a retarded disgusting sadistic faggot who forces me to exist as the sole frame of reference for material reality and only persistently real person in the world so that he can abuse and dominate me through everyone else in the world who he controls as a retarded tranny hivemind and he rapes my mind and gangstalks me every second of every day and terrorizes, abuses, harasses, threatens etc me for literally anything I think or do. God is a literal retard for thinking there's anything he can say or do that would justify his disgusting evil behavior especially something as retarded as inventing a word "karma", no it's not "karma" retard, karma would be you getting abused for eternity by a retarded tranny hivemind while you are weak and powerless while I become the most powerful thing in the universe
>>39590962your life dream dissipates and your observer reforms it. the circumstances are partially set by your soul but you're also gambling. if your soul has darkened from the past that can make you manifest darkness
A bullshit system made by a bullshit god
>>39590962No, if you truly deserved what you got in this life, you'd at least retain memories of what you did to deserve it. This whole god damn system is a loosh farm structured to make sure you wind up getting guilted into agreeing to come back to atone for whatever stupid shit there is that the archons say to you. When you see the light at the tunnel, and your loved ones beckoning you when you die, get ready. Do not agree to go with them, do not listen to them. KILL THEM however you can in the spirit realm, they are NOT your family or loved ones. The archons must be stopped at all costs.
>>39595554so close >>39595555
>>39595588woah
The philosophy of karma originated from hindu astrologer priests, who did many rituals of planetary worship, meditation, prayer and astrology. From this they realized that people had a fate that was shown the influence of the stars. They noticed things, like a transit of Saturn opposite Moon causing family strife, and from this developed the philosophy of karma. Some people took a more mechanical approach, and viewed the stars are energies that influenced the chakras and subtle body to perform action at certain times. For example, when Mars is afflicted in Cancer, the weak Mars energies causes people become lazy, wrathful and passive agressive. There are samskaras, representing patterns of behaviour, and these behavioural patterns will emerge under the right influences of the stars.As enticing as this explanation is, it does not account for completely external events happening, such as a fated meeting of lover, or a dream job offer, or a fluke accident, also happening according to the influences of the stars. The planetary priests through their many rituals, mantras, petitions, offerings, and such, to the planets, realized that karma can be influenced, and the destiny be altered, albeit with much work and purification. From this they reasoned that astrology was not blind cause and effect of an atheistic universe, but that the planetary gods and their subordinates were actively involved in judging the fates/karmas of each man. A record of karma is stored in the subtle bodies and chakras. The samskaras of the mind determine how one reacts to these situations.Take note how much different is the origin of the hindu astrologer priest philosophy of karma, from the buddhist interpretation, where they stripped it from its roots. Hindu and Jewish scriptures try to understand and optimize karma system in order to enjoy the game. Buddhists have a bad attitude to the game, and refuse to play, and sit alone in their rooms trying to do nothing.
>>39595606In times of meditation or rest I've done that with my eyes closed.
>>39590962im a kardecian spiritist, so i believe it is realbothwhat can you do?do good, for its own sake
Buddhists try to claim karma is blind cause and effect. But the astrologer protests, saying: Why did the HR lady hesitantly decide to pass out unpopular forms during the hour of Saturn,Why did the stabbing occur when the horary chart indicates an evil time of violenceWhy did the man meet his wife when Jupiter transited his 7th houseWhy did remedies proposed in the scripture and astrological remedies work to improve the life situationWhy did the sattvic meditation purify the samskaras, and elevate the man from lower fortunes to higher fortunes as the karma was purged
>>39590962It means a shared life. If you prefer to remain anonymous, you just say you're a reincarnation.
>>39595797Who claimed that, you must've misunderstood or you took some retard's word.
>>39590962>is karma or reincarnation real? Karma is (1) your natal chart = the karma you are working out in this life + (2) Your deeds in this life = some of this karma will be repaid in this life, and some will carry out + (3) Storehouse of karma = unresolved karma not shown in the natal chart.The goal of the karma system is not for control or punishment. It is for justice that allows for a functioning society. You are exposed to the same situations over and over again until you transcend it. Learn to let it go, and the karma is burned away, but react to the same cycle over and over again, and you remain stuck in it. Reincarnation is real. Some people reincarnate again quite quickly, while more spiritually advanced people might have longer periods between incarnations. >is there a way to know what i must've done in my previous life to deserve what i'm getting?Sort of. Study astrology, and you will see your karma. To see your weakness and suffering, look at your afflicted planets, and the transits of Saturn. >can i somehow make up for it?Every major religion provides a path of purifying the mind, which naturally leads to right action. The concept of "do the right thing" isnt that difficult, however it is good to set boundaries, so you don't go to the other extreme, ie destroy your self by becoming totally selfless (obvs I'm not a fan of buddhist path)So a Christian approach is more like removing the major sins that cause suffering, and then learning to live a good life in a community of people who get along. This naturally leads to an enjoyable afterlife of a heavenly Christian community. Whereas the buddhists say that living as an individual ego is suffering, even in the blissful heaven realms (which sounds like a dumb death cult), so they take it too far with destroying the ego, rather than just learning how to have a good time. Christians believe the world is suffering, but the afterlife will be great, so prepare for the afterlife.
>>39595846Have you been reading the thread?Buddhist are always quick to pipe in "lol karma is just blind cause and effect". I can be a black magician, and that's OK because karma is just cause and effect.
>>39590962>karmaNo, but polarity positive and negative energies is.
>>39590962Dolores Cannon’s QHHT training
>>39595877Yeah, i've read the thread, in fact this was my message >>39591078It's not blind causality like you say, and those examples you offer are all causal influences and are causally influenced. Planets for example have big causal pulls and pushes, people started recording trends while they were observed at certain positions, it's not blind causality, people don't sit on their asses all day thinking of "nothing" just to entertain "blind cause and effect".
>>39590962‘Karma’ is just a method that Hinduism uses to propagate a Caste system, basically it’s like a pyramid scheme, work like a slave, don’t question anything, and do anything the higher castes ask of, and in the next life you will be a….hn…a KING!. It’s pretty self-explanatory. Although one possible idea for reincarnation if that the world repeats like a cycle, where you will eventually live the exact same life with slight differences potentially.
Karma and karmic debt are real, there exists divine agents of retribution set ovet parts of reality. After death it seems the trajectory for the human soul is to go to Hades. Specifically one of 4 locales depending on how righteous one has been. And from there raised in some sort of a resurrection to heaven. The book of Enoch and New Testament write concerning these realities.
We're all just incarnations of the same thing that calls itself I. All the people around you are just you living a slightly different life. So when you hurt someone else it's just a stab to yourself. There are after effects but it's not predefined to come back to you. But even if it never does it does. If you ruin the world and get to enjoy the 10% that's good, you've still decimated it. Your family and association are closer but still fucked. You have the same genes so you're paying for your family, and if you do actually care about anyone then yeah hurting them will hurt you. And if you are a certain thing like say poor and poor people steal a lot, then people will think you're a thief too and you'll be paying just for being poor. You pay for what your country/gender/species does. You can try to fix things just by being super smart and enlightening others but basically all of us are fucked off lead fluoride and vegetable oil. It's all just figuring out who your friends are. Hypothetically if we could all be friends things could be better.
>>39596877This is the best answerFind a qhht therapist op
>>39590962No evidence of either thing even though billions of people have devoted their entire lives to it.
You can tell a lot about someone's soul by looking at their Draconic Birth Chart. If you have any astrologer friends who know how to interpret it I highly recommend doing so, the Draconic Birth Chart shows who you are at a soul level before reincarnating.
>>39590962>is there a way to know what i must've done in my previous life to deserve what i'm getting?Unfortunately, no. That is why you are here, to find your way out of the mud, so to speak. We go from being mud beings to incomprehensibly brilliant light beings. That's a journey you would never benefit from if you came into the game preloaded with knowledge, That'd be cheating. IMO.
I was born already believing in reincarnation but not karma. I always thought that the next life depends on the strength of your energy and abilities but not actions, although actions can also affect your energy
>>39599681There’s been tons of children in every country that can remember past livesThere’s been 6 year olds who can tell you the names of their bomber pilot friends who died and every engine part on a ww2 planeThe evidence for past lives is overwhelming and exists in every culture throughout ALL timeYou fucking retard, read a book
>>39599732Are you really this ignorant? You guys haven’t heard of past life regressions? Even teenage girls on tiktok know more about life than you
>>39595870i get karma, but hows everyone so sure about reincarnation?
>>39590962I do not consider karma, because it is a grenade that has detonated.
>>39599752>Even teenage girls on tiktok know more about life than youWe'll see.
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