If magic is real why is nobody casting spells like Dungeons and Dragons or Harry Potter?I hate how it always has to be hidden and rare. Like nah, its just fake and all bullshit
>If magic is real why isn't it like muh funko popLips of wisdom remain closed except to the ears of understanding. You will die a hylic.
>>39623085The spell system is flipped on its head in dnd. The high level spells are much easier than the low level ones. Most people end up using wish which can cause you to not be able to use magic.
>>39623085Bruh ain't nobody wanna be out there actually lookin like crazy people.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22Tj_l4PcPs
>>39623085Probably because reality is evil and we're slaves.
people who hate feet are more regressive than christcucks
>>39623134Imagine the horror of christcucks who also hate feet...
>>39623085>dnd>harry potterAll magic that looks like mainstream extrapolated laser gunfights was a kind of concept of magic deliberately designed as a slander of the real thing and designed to close the minds of people who encounter the strawman to the possibility of the real thing. Because they inevitably get buttmad when they learn the real thing is not the vulgar combat strawman. Kindly kill yourself now.
They are, you just can't see it because your wavelength is incompatible.
>>39623249And is magic anything other than narcissist laden stagecraft and social engineering?
>>39623281You're just what he describedFuck you, you're not made for this
>>39623085Because real magic occurs in the second attention, most people can’t “see” it because they got weak soft ass titty minds. There’s no ozempic for magic, you have to put in the work to be able to do it.
>>39623085Because it's more like HxH than DnD. Only other users can see or are aware of powers, but the physical effects still occur.Also like HxH, laser beams are hard af and energy is far more easily controlled directly on your person and quickly loses control and power off your person. For example, casting fireball is infinitely more difficult than setting things on fire with a touch. People who think powers aren't real are shills or part of the hopeless denying their own potential, it's just the nature of how these things work lends itself to being pretty easy to hide.
>>39623085If anything can do what my picrel says then it's Magick.Music can cause change according to will by changing mood states and introducing ideas.So can sigils (company logos).The El-ite already use Magick against you and you don't have the slightest idea.Learn what Magick actually is then comment on it, read a book or few.
>>39623361>Magick with a kLmao faggot. Your magic isn’t shit. OP is looking for concrete ways to do things like shapeshift, fly, teleport, all of which are possible with dedication and proper instruction without any bullshit philosophical baggage.
>>39623361>>39623381a duel of two larpers
>>39623388You want instructions? I’ve already said it in another thread but I’ll put more here, for you and people like OP that are tired of BS magic which this board is in love with because it’s so easy to pretend
>>39623361This is exactly what magic is,not some rabbit out of a hat or harry Potter tier Magic>>39623381>ShapeshiftUsually only possible if you have it on your bloodline or make a pact with an entity that could help you do that>FlyThis sounds just too difficult, levitation at best>TeleportAre you a kid? This is most likely not possible unless there's some kind of worm hole portal or any other physical method or anomaly
>>39623403First thing, begin gathering energy. Focus your concentration on silencing the internal dialogue. 24/7, non-stop. It will feel like hell at first but that’s how you know you’re doing it correctly. You’ll notice you have more energy, your dreams become more and more lucid. It becomes impossible to not lucid dream, because you’re basically reality checking yourself 24/7 by not letting your mind wander and constantly staying vigilant and aware.
>>39623403im not interested in larping
>>39623306You don't know me. Everything I've experienced in regards to pretty much anything called magic boils down to levayan style social engineering or larp inspired rituals. >>39623361Literally says as much lmao
>>39623381>implying science isn't already magickhttps://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/38349549Where do you think the greatest of scientists got their knowledge from?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaac_Newton%27s_occult_studieshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1qACd0wHd0
>>39623420Second, you don’t realize how much energy is wasted when you let your mind wander on random bullshit all day. After about 3 weeks to a month of forcing silence, you should start exercises to learn how to “see” energy. Get yourself a completely black room, a blindfold is also good in a pinch, and give yourself 3 hours a night to sit there and stare into total darkness. You will see purple puffs of color, flashes of light, this is all very good. You might think it’s just visual glitches or bad eyesight but it’s not.>>39623416You have no fucking clue what you’re talking about
>>39623416>This is most likely not possible unless there's some kind of worm hole portal or any other physical method or anomalyNTA, but it is very possible, multiple demons have this within their offices for a reason. The physical world and astral world exist on a continuum, it isn't two separate realities but rather one cohesive reality and one's body exists on all levels of it. Teleportation is essentially an advanced form of astral projection, instead of just moving the astral portion of yourself through the astral to a physical location you bring your entire body with you instead.
>>39623451>Where do you think the greatest of scientists got their knowledge from?From practicing waking sleep or whatever it is called. Falling asleep just enough to have a slightly unrestriced brain when contemplating their musings of science. Usually done by holding something heavy in their hand over something metal while falling asleep in a chair. Hypnogogic state of mind is pretty powerful. No occult larping necessary
>>39623456Third, forgot to mention but in this dark room it’s a good idea to get a nice comfy chair to sit in. You’re essentially trying to induce the same waking dreaming state that psychedelic drugs put you in, except you’re completely sober doing this. Focus on the purple puffs of color, play with them with your hands and stuff them into your stomach. Do this every night. For lack of a better term you are building your energy body.>>39623424Everybody wanna be a wizard but nobody wanna put in the work
>>39623085Magic is first and foremost a psychological tool. It’s a placebo effect on a grander and more potent scale. It’s very real in that sense. No, you can’t point at something with a wand and make it disappear or some shit. It’s about tapping into the unconscious parts of your mind to will and manifest a physical change.
>>39623480lol you're larping nigga
>>39623456>No idea blah blahOk tell me why, I'm open to discuss and understand>>39623466Mmm i never thought about this,so can someone do this by himself?i suppose it's incredibly hard to teleport matter (your physical body),also >DemonsIirc there are some goetia demons that can do this isn't it?
>>39623480Fourth, okay so now what you’re looking for is a certain noise and you’ll feel your head kind of fall forward a bit, that’s perfect. For me I heard wind blowing, other people say they hear an explosion, for you it could be different. Either way, basically your assemblage point just moved down your back, which is awesome! The first couple times you get to do this your body might be paralyzed but don’t worry it goes away after a couple times. This is the start of you being able to do real magic, genuine real magic not simply “durrr love is under my will only durrrr I pick up my coffee cup that’s a magical act durrr”
ITT: pseuds and larpers sperging about how you can trick yourself into feeling the fuzzy wuzzies.
>>39623485You’re exactly the type of person that would benefit from taking a fuckton of mushrooms. Grease up that assemblage point nigga you seem stuck >>39623493What’s there to say, I don’t know where you got your info but your shit is all fucked up. Shapeshifting is absolutely possible, without a “bloodline pact” or whatever which is complete LARP. It’s just a matter of changing the form of your energy body, your physical body follows.
>>39623521I literally gave instructions motherfucker do it or don’t I don’t give a shit it’s on you. If you want freedom from the agriculture-implant mind you know what to do. You can’t say it’s too esoteric now, it’s just a matter of laziness.
>>39623493>Iirc there are some goetia demons that can do this isn't it?Yes, in the Lesser Keys and Verum, probably elsewhere too. By offices, I mean the powers each are charged with. Some include transportation (including of yourself, instantly) as well as the reverse of bringing things (expediently). Demons' abilities are meant to be taken literally, they are not purely metaphorical (now getting them to draw it out or teach you is another matter).>so can someone do this by himself?i suppose it's incredibly hard to teleport matter (your physical body)You can do it yourself, yes. I don't think it is easy at all, though I have seen it so know it can happen and feel as if I have gotten close. If you have done a lot of evocations or worked with spirits or such to an extent, you may notice from certain strong presences or rituals the "sharpness" of the world around you diminishes, and instead everything not only feels soft but as if you and it bleeds into each other. This sort of thing is essentially your body "being pulled into the astral" by association of the overall (metaphysical) density of the surroundings lessening and being on a plane closer to the astral than basic physical (as things manifest). To teleport (or perform other movement-supernatural feats like jumps or those famous anime quicksteps) you have to lull yourself, imo and beliefs so far, into that "world" while also moving so by the end of the movement you are outside that phase and back in the physical phase. A demon makes it easier by handling that process for you as you move, but theoretically you can do it yourself probably after god knows how much training. It's my current working theory with minor effects so far I have been working with, won't say it's the set-in-stone process.>it's like no clipping in vidya-Yes. Yes it is.
>>39623553NTA but I like you, we’re on different paths but I can tell you know your stuff.
>>39623085HahahaDid you guys get a little peek behind the scenes just now?Do u member?:::)U didn’t forgor!??Hahaha they are happy with you“They”, the other guys in my rooms + u !Hey guys little secret!! Hahaha, yup well see again tonightb!!Did you catch gman glitching last night”! I heard uuuuuu iiiiii cccc uuuu!>>39623281Hahaha pretty close.. they would like a word with you, open your mind to the possibility for magic tonight. You might find a little seed in your head!Did grim bring you a little flower for invitations yet? His green eyes looking at you… asking you questions and telling you asnwers what is beyond the veil..Big veil lifted moment!666 call: “ yeah pretty good one”!HAyyyyy Yup dealing with some bs tonight u know whats up side, catch you on ur flipside!
>>39623561Hahahah you know real shit got revealed in this thread they got the feds here
>>39623569Nah that's reading heavily as mania
>>39623582I read it as inane BS that has nothing to do with the topic of the OP, whether it’s a fed or some idiot it’s all the same. Agent Smith.
>>39623588TrruuuuuueeeeI am of the inclination that Free Will is a farce and we're all bots, even if we don't think we are.
>>39623560Thanks anon, I like you too for being kind. I know honestly my approach and perceptions of things aren't others' cup of tea often. Though once in a while I like to just throw help out if I can, and I do wish well on earnest practitioners.
>>39623595Could definitely be. I think as a species we are controlled by our animal instincts far, far more than we care to acknowledge. Whether we have free will or not, I still experience (the illusion of?) being able to make choices, so honestly it doesn’t make a huge difference to me.What I do know for a fact is that there is a force out there in the universe that doesn’t want evolved human consciousnesses. And it manifests itself in different ways, in order to keep people asleep. It’s not the devil, I’m not a gnostic, I follow a different paradigm. This is probably the only thread on this board providing real information on how to produce magic, of course we’re gonna get a couple Agent Smiths. C’est la vie.
>>39623249This plus they purposefully have a ton of ignorance around magic making it seem that you are in league with Satan so to drive off the slave massives from it. They DO NOT want normal people to go anywhere near magic. They keep lots of the real magic knowledge hidden away
>>39623744They need their nigger cattle anon. Lucky for us we have the opportunity to have a space alien instead.https://youtu.be/QZc5wfhP8S4This video explains the viewpoint of a magician to a T.
Personally I believe that magic exists, I do not think that the entirety of recorded human history can be wrong and I think that our ancestors knew a lot more than we give them credit for. We like to think that we're so much more advanced but the fact is that if you took someone from the past and put them in today's world (and they can speak the language of their era) I think they'd get by and figure it out. But vice versa a modern person going back in time (and again able to speak the language properly, be it old english or anglo saxon or whatever) that they'd fail miserable and 90% of first world people would be useless in an older society.Magic has been a consistent belief in humanity, across time and land and culture. There were people able to do the supernatural, be it healing or otherwies.However if you actually read about it, it's nothing like what you'd see in DnD or Harry Potter, it'd ironically be more like Lord of the Rings. You don't see Gandalf slinging fireballs and lightning around, he creates forcefields, he talks to animals, he produces light from his stave, strengthens his sword swings and undoes the hex on the King of Rohan.The only time you see a "typical spell" would be Saruman casting fireball at Gandalf and it was apparently easily deflected.So I'd say most magic is more subtle, like that of casting hexes over people, protecting one's self, increasing favorable odds, maybe some people can communicate with animals to a degree and if there are spells like casting fireball, it'd be for extremely strong mages.Personally I want to cast fireball one day, I don't work on it as much as I should but I firmly believe in magic. I feel as though I can affect the real world, that I can affect people through supernatural means and in situations that I can repeat.>>39623744this especially, I 100% believe that the people in control believe in magic and actually use it often in order to maintain control and the such.
>>39623942>>39623744If magic is real, then it'd be an incredibly powerful and useful tool for the elite.Which is why they would basically do anything in order to keep it out of the hands of the masses, which is why stuff like atheism and skepticism is pushed. They want you believing in science and "rationality" when instead it's only logical and rational to believe in magic. If you believe in magic and you're wrong, it literally doesn't matter, maybe you waste some time meditating instead of doomscrolling (still a benefit, the things you do for magic and still beneficial on a biological level, merely a coincidence I'm sure) whereas if you're right, you now have a reality altering hack to help you and others.They've somehow coopted the term rationality to mean, anything non religious and based in science, when in reality, if you're really being rational, then it behooves you to believe.
>>39623085It's just a big misunderstanding, all of it. Semantics is what it is. Just like a personal cultural collective unconscious mistaken for God and projected into the physical world, the spells and magic is nothing more than those exact unknown "powers" that come from "within" and affect the physical world. It's a synonym for unidentified will.
>>39623085the ghost of Aleister Crowley taught me the Secret of the Art Trump. I'm not a real initiate so I can say it. The duality on the card is the Real Tao. The Tao is the exoteric substance
>>39623085https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRVQD4FKPrY
>>39623381>OP is looking for concrete ways to do things like shapeshift, Diet and exercise. Cosmetic surgery if your demands are unreasonable.>fly, Airplanes, helicopters, jetpacks, etc.>teleport,Try lucid dreaming. That's not happening in the waking world.
>GIVE ME PROOF OF THE OCCULT thread #4198240738935679348759348573984759834758934759837459837489I hate this shitty fucking board but /fringe/ is dead
>>39625041Lucid dreaming =/= magic. Spectacular magic like shapeshifting etc etc takes place in the second attention, most people cannot see into the second attention. Asking others to prove magic for you means you don’t have to do any of the prerequisite work, it’s wrongheaded and not how this works.
>>39623085Magic is the default but it becomes dispelled by observation. That's why most of the magic that's possible today is mental based where it can't be observed.
>>39625858It can be observed, normalfags just see it differently than someone who can “see”. A Jesus level miracle becomes something completely ordinary in their eyes. Someone jumps 50 feet into the air and leaps treetop to treetop becomes “something is rustling in those trees.” They don’t notice that in large crowds of people, some of those people aren’t actually real people. The problem is that it’s so incredibly easy to LARP and pretend you can “see”, it’s a very easy way to get attention and maybe make money, or get easy sex, through a cult if you’re charming enough. I’ll get shit for this but most schizophrenics fall into this category. They will say they see things but the reality is most of the time they’re just mentally ill. At the end of the day the only person they’ll have fooled is themselves. Good luck getting past the life review when you can’t even navigate your own dreams hahaha
>>39625936>bruh magic is reel>you just don't have the kind of mental illness i do
>>39625947Never said I was mentally ill, mental illness isn’t something to be glorified. In fact I’d go so far as to say mental illness is a very normalfaggot thing that keeps people in the first attention, it might be surprising but doing magic requires you to concentrate. If the idea of magic doesn’t appeal to you then don’t do it, it’s very simple. Don’t come crying when you get eaten after you die. When you realize you wasted your life believing in the bullshit of this world. Other people can take advantage of the tech and info given in this thread to reach altered states of reality without being high as a kite. Completely sober. Doing things that the majority of people can’t even conceive of, living your life as human beings were meant to.
>>39625992>a mentally ill clown won't say she's mentally illshocker
>>39625996Not a she either, sorcery is different for women. The rules for what’s considered LARP aren’t as concrete as they are for men. Women have it a bit easier because their assemblage point moves naturally with their period, their assemblage point is naturally more greasy and less “stuck” than men.
>>39623480Why are we stuffing the purple swirls in our stomachs anon? Why not just watch the purple swirls and see what happens while you pull energy through your heart center and stuff that into your stomach instead?
>>39625104It's an ultimate filter, if you can't cope or explain what's happening then you are not gonna make it.
>>39623085That's what church services are all doing. You either join a big team or take on the extreme philosophical implications of what you are doing by yourself.
>>39626038if you say so, ma'am
>>39623085haha what if she farted with that candle right there
>>39626378You’re building your energy body, stuffing the puffs of color you see into your stomach is a good way of making an energetic mass. “Passing it through your heart center” sounds similar to that chakra bs, no offense to you specifically. You’ll know you’re doing good when, in a completely dark room, you start to see your arms and hands. If they lag behind your actual movements that’s good, it means your double is with you. Thats the vehicle that you use in order to practice sorcery. Another reason to concentrate on maintaining silence and not letting your mind get all flabby and shit, negative thoughts scare away the double. Think of it like a woman that only wants to be with men who make her laugh. It hasn’t experienced life on this planet, it doesn’t understand human suffering. Being depressed isn’t the correct mood for sorcery.
>>39623085>Dungeons and DragonsManna is shaped in D&D, in what they sometimes call Weaving. In essence, it doesn't require any sense of enlightenment, but simply procedures left over from various different gods and wizards shaping the weave. Somatic components are mixed with physical components which cost gold, or are done by the ritual itself. In real life, rituals will have effect based on the willingness of the spirit called upon to do the effect. Satanic rituals will typically thus require some level of sin or procedure of sin in order to call to Satan to make the effect. Holy rituals that incite angels have the similar effect, where one has to have faith or moral deeds and faith to call to God to send one of His angels to cause an effect or help you with many effects. Typically, these rituals take lots of time and don't involve a somatic component (i.e. a word or phrase of power), and affect the world more similarly in D&D terms as a "ritual spell", which gives an imbuement over a significant portion of time at the cost of several hours of prep work and casting effort.>Harry PotterHarry Potter doesn't involve old mechanisms in order to cause an effect in the world, but instead words of power that evoke spiritual energy from the "wizard". In real life, the power of magick also comes from the spiritual energy of the caster, but words and phrases of power have little to no effect in the efficacy of materializing an effect of the soul. Some magickal beings actually DO use words and phrases of power, and quite similarly to Harry Potter, where one can be in a lethal duel with another supernatural being with words of power and be in a duel of careful and perceptive wordplay, inducing devastating effects wherein brain hemorrhaging, broken bones, ruptured organs, battered flesh, or even wide, deep, or splitting cuts all done through their words of power in a combative conversation with each other.In reality, none of this is hidden. Effects are invisible.
>>39623249People will rationalize away the most inconceivable things and lie to themselves and everyone around them so their worldview isn't destroyed. You see these people and if you know the people close to them you come to understand it's because if they pay attention to this one thing they'll then have to admit to so many people in their life that they were wrong, and they inherently find that too difficult to cope with as a life struggle so to avoid it they will make up the dumbest excuses and go through mental gymnastics never seen before in order to state that the invisible simply isn't there, and that the only reason why electricity exists is because a guy taught it to them in a government school.
>>39623361>Learn what Magick actually is then comment on itnta but maybe that's what he hoped to learn by posting that OP?
>>39623085magic only works like in tolkien where it is a combination of willpower and intention
>>39623112Ahahahahahahahahahaha
>>39623085because that portrayal of magic is based on a narrow naturalist conception of existence
>>39626593This is me, I’m posting from my phone right now otherwise I’d upload a couple pics but to skeptics like OP, when you do the exercises I laid out in the posts above you should be having visuals just as vivid as this. If you don’t have magic in your face like this you’re doing it wrong. Real magic exists and if you know how to sift through the bs you can do it too.https://youtu.be/7T472WJVrDs
>>39623085Everyone I met on this topic is retarded, there wasnt a single normal person here who knows what up. Now its obvious that through antiquity that IT WAS FLAMBOYANT. LEVITATION. FIREBALLS. THAT SORT OF COOL SHIT. We had tales of this, from solomon to jesus with his water walking. To some rare tales of men 100 years ago who with the power of the devil entertained guests with levitation tricks, before the demon turned on them.The fact is that we only have lame and gay men who do this shit now. Crowley was a humongous retard who fucked the ibralahim the mage ritual. And created a demon hole in his house. The reason why we dont get good magic effects lately is because we live in the kali yuga, and age of lame and gay retards. All magic, because of the effects of this age, is much harder to manifest. Its slow, its indirect, its not very important. Loa came to the forefront not because it works so great, but because its one of the very few options in this age of kali yuga. When we stray the furthest from god. The connection to the divine is weak and with that also the magics. Nobody realz can manifest anything of note now. What we get at best is the replication crisis from the science world where the "placebo effect" (aka, using your will to change the micro scale of reality) is a sort of magic. To the dismay of the many scientists who are perplexed why others cannot replicate their "findings" (they just project their own beliefs on a micro scale on their tests). The tales of past magic are those from other ages, jesus was on the doorstep of the kali yuga and basically took what little past yuga stuff there was with him. Any real practitioner just gets a dose of this yuga, gets angry at things, wants to fight other people, or just wants to fornicate and that alone is enough to stop people from following systems that take years to get to weird and cool effects. Out of billions of people nobody, not even one person most likely has the shit to make it.
>>39623085Because that's not how magic works.
>>39627478Yes it does, stop lying, it worked that way from folks tales that we know off. Anything else is just cope for you being a failure retard in the kali yuga.
>>39623381Then tell us how to do it.>noOK, larper.
>>39627484>it's year 5000>"the magic does work like that, retard, this 'Harry Potter' book says so"
>>39623281This was the same pleb who back in the day didn't believe atoms or genes were real because he couldn't see them
>>39627501I literally did, read the thread. 1. Force silence for a month 2. Darkroom gazing3. Recapitulation (I didn’t go talk that yet)4. TensegrityThat’s all you need to know. It’s simple.
1. you can do all of that in your dreams2. you spend 1/3 of your life in dreams3. dream world is where you go when you die, where you can use those powers foreverearth is meant to be a stable waiting room
>>39627645For recap, the goal is to lessen the impact traumatic memories have on you and to gather energy you’ve lost throughout your life ruminating on shitty things that have happened to you. Get a journal, write down different categories of significant events in your life. Write down people, events, anything at all you can remember. When you have your list, go into that dark room and sit yo butt down on that comfy chair. Then pick a memory to recap. Take a deep breath IN while you turn your head to the left. Then slowly turn your head right and breathe out. In the second attention you can literally see the energy this releases, purple fog all around you. Do this until you feel like you’re done with the memory and then move onto the next one. If nothing else both this and forcing silence are very relaxing.
Change your perspective, change your beliefs and you may get to know tangible magicIt may be hidden and rare now, but that might not always be the case
>>39627664For a sorcerer there isn’t really a huge difference between being awake and being asleep.
>>39627645*i didn’t talk about that yetAs for tensegrity, the idea is that certain moves produce energy. As an example, in the darkroom you can make colors appear by doing pushups or head banging, like you’re in a mosh pit. Tensegrity might look weird but it’s the same principle, and again the results should be vivid and visible when you’re doing it. Otherwise you’re just LARPing.https://youtu.be/mJGaYe0u2e4
>>39623085Bluntly, the "Occult" is rare because it has to be hidden from fanatic Christcuck lunatic ignoramuses. HP is fantasy and it has little to do with magick except incidentally. But there are some storylines and ideas that can be adapted for the real thing. AFAIK D&D isn't useful for anything except fun. All of the TV shows and movies about witches, wizards and magick are mostly pure fantasy - none of it is real and it's all polluted with "christian" themes about demons, werewolves, blood-sucking vampires, and monsters to make it more exciting. For instance, LOTR "magic" was all done by angels called Wizards, and Elves.Why does it have to be hidden? Consider the Salem Witch trials. A slave woman tells some girls some tales about the spooky. They go into convulsions, and the Good and Pious Puritans immediately have faith and pray it away!?! No, they panic because their Hellfire preachers have scared them half to death with stories of eternal torture for doubting them, so they run to the government and accuse women and one man of witchcraft (consorting with the Bad Ol' Deb'bil). Conviction is hard, so they whip out their Malleus Maleficarums and create a new legal theory on the spot - Spectral Evidence! If someone imagines it happening then it must be happening! If a crop fails it must be witches! If someone feels sick, it must be witches! So, the women were hanged and one man was "pressed" to death because if he confessed his family would lose everything. Torture will make its victim confess to anything to stop it! To their partial credit, some of the leaders realized they had been mad and delusional. The Puritans and Pilgrims could be vicious and cruel and they only wanted "freedom of religion" for themselves, and they threw dissenters like William Penn out. The first gov't declared Thanksgiving celebrated the murder of an Indian tribe. Christianity has a long history of these psychotic events, and that's why it's called the "Occult".
>>39627870Mic check 1,2
>>39628220Gain's too high, sorry, let me adjust that>Christianity has a long history of these psychotic events, and that's why it's called the "Occult".And everybody's familiar with the inquisitory pretext because it's the exact same thing that everybody's afraid of when interacting with American cops even today.The tradition lives on.
>>39623527I know you can shapeshift without being from certain bloodline>PactI was talking about making a pact with a demon or other entity,not a "bloodline pact" ,read again please
>>39623442Magic is playing with God, if God likes your play, you receive boons. This necessarily means 90% of all real magic looks intentionally like larp to hylic losers. Kill yourself immediately.
>>39628600Shut the fuck up, dude. Pearls before swine. Fuck. What are you even trying to accomplish?
>>39628635If one mind can be opened to the truth, I have defeated the magisterium. I will risk being rended by the swine.
>>39623505So what kind of effects can I expect from this 'real magic'? Can I transform physically? Become rich? Become charismatic or attract people I otherwise couldn't?
>>39628409Shapeshifting does not work in the way you think it does. Making a pact with a “demon”, which is a super loaded term, is not necessary. Nor is having it in your bloodline necessary. Shapeshifting is inevitable when you practice darkrooming. It’s not necessarily something you have absolute control over like you’re a werewolf in Skyrim. Things will happen to you while you’re doing tensegrity, and afterwards you’ll realize that your body was contorted in impossible ways while doing the movements. If your intent is to shapeshift, certain tensegrity movements will shift your AP either left or right which produces different results. The left is associated with insects, the right animals.Grab a colored puff in the air while you’re dark rooming and stretch it, wave it in front of you like you’re airing out a blanket and then lay it down in front of you to create a road, flatten it with your hands. If you aren’t literally seeing this you’re faking it. The walls in your darkroom should open up, simply walk and intend to shapeshift.Explaining it in words doesn’t do it justice.
Magic isnt real, people, are just delusional and like to sell books.>ook ook read this magick book and do this ritual it will give u power>take my secret magick courseThe real magic is youre giving them your money.
>>39628700Also mostly it just makes people superstitious and schizophrenic.
>>39628700Basically this. There's a small profit to be made selling courses and books. The occult has kinda become like the self-help grift, just more spooky dookie.
>>39628700When did anybody in this thread ask for money, or to buy a course. It’s free information, either take it or stay asleep. >>39628678You get visual magic in a relatively short amount of time that allows you to do a myriad of different things, shape shifting, remote viewing, I hate the term because it’s so loaded but “astral projecting”, interacting with inorganic beings (you can get them to turn into attractive women and fuck them, yes), seeing energy in everyday life, and much more. But the ultimate goal is freedom. We’ve been trapped here, we got too interested in this world and we were torn apart before taking a birth on earth. Half of us remains here, the other half remains outside of our body wandering the universe like we’re supposed to be doing now. The goal of sorcery is to reunite ourselves with our double, and to have our consciousness survive past death as an evolved human inorganic being. Most people get consumed after the life review.It’s not an easy path, but if you want to escape the river of shit it’s the only way.
>>39628700"We" want you to think that magick is not real! I don't want it to be scientifically proven! The Right Christcuck ignoramuses would quickly run to the "Red" Right Christcuck-friendly governments to demand its illegality, and the cops would want to arrest you for Fraud (that's why it's a religion in the US) After all, Christcucks believe it's all Satanic anyway. They believe that Free Will only means agreeing with them, and the Separation of Church and State is an inconvenience, so they'll have to persecute, er prosecute it to prove how Righteous, Pure, and Pious they all are! (you may want to hurl), Greedheads would try to patent it to corner the market, and Psychiatrists would conclude that all of you have gone looney tunes and want to force-feed you psychotic, er anti-psychotic drugs for it. The Christcucks always want to tell us what we believe, so I'm just returning the "favor"! ;~P
>>39628802But what about achieving earthly goals? Yes this may sound shallow and materialistic, but the way I see it, I was put on this earth for a reason, so I may as well enjoy my existence.
>>39629028It’s very easy, if you can find the time and discipline to practice daily, and take it seriously, you can do anything you put your mind to. The problem isn’t whether you have materialistic desires, the problem is whether you’ll work hard enough before quitting and writing it all off as bullshit because it’s too hard. This isn’t a religion, it’s a set of practices that allow you to experience altered states of reality and to achieve a clean link to intent.
>>39623085Women cast their vagina magic on us men every damn day.
Salvador Dalí had alchemy down with his artwork. Look up how he used to tip waitresses/waiters. If that is not the literal making of gold then I don't know how to help you.
>>39629302Alright, I believe you, in part because my daily practice already involves some things similar to what you said. Any books or videos you recommend to learn more about where you get your info from?
>>39629449Don’t believe me, see it for yourself and make your own decision. The reason I keep saying “real magic” is because this isn’t something based on vibes, you will literally see, hear, and interact with magic on a daily basis when you do it correctly. As for more information, check out the Castaneda subreddit and read the wiki there.
>>39629504I guess I should've said that I believe your suggested practice is worth trying.Thanks for sharing, I will check out the sub.
You literally can if you focus hard enough. I’ve seen people manifest fireballs from their hands.
>>39623085Because like me we’re always here to keep breaking your spells.
>>39623085I would lick the bottom of her feet
>>39623085who is this foot slut?
>>39623482>>39623493There was this guy that could do amazing things, so a reporter went to interview him.When they were talking the reporter mentioned some bug, or something like that, I don't remember it well, but let's say it was a beetle.And then the guy just casually put his hands together and materialized a beetle made of gold, and gave it to the reporter as a gift, who was flabbergasted.A long time later the guy's helper revealed the truth, that he didn't materialize anything, he knew the bug was in some other room, and had seen it, all the guy did was teleport it into his hands, so it appeared to come from nowhere.This is a real story, so after you know this happened, you know magic is real, isn't this easier than pointing something with a wand and making it disappear?>I can't do it, therefore it's not realCan you pick up a fender guitar and make it sound like when George Benson plays it? Is he doing magic? Just because you don't know how to do something, doesn't mean someone else can't, or that it's not real.
>>39623085Do you think her vagina glows?
>>39623942>But vice versa a modern person going back in time (and again able to speak the language properly, be it old english or anglo saxon or whatever) that they'd fail miserable and 90% of first world people would be useless in an older society.What? I'd travel to ancient mexico to the Aztec culture, claim I was a god, become kingnified, have to do nothing and be surrounded by my harem of horny women that wanted to get impregnated by me to continue the dynasty.Because, people from the past already managed to do things like that, except they were used to other ways of living and were greedy and just wanted to go back home with the riches, but, just be smart when selecting the time and place you go back to, and you won't need to be an asset to the society of that time, you could rule them.
>>39623281>stagecraftThe occult is about private spiritual rituals (usually with only one person) to achieve a goal, not showing anything off
>>39623085Magic is subjective and can only be experienced by the caster. That's why normies will never be able to into magic
>>39623085You're magicking your magick away with unbelief
>>39631606What, do you want the prompt that generated her?
>>39623134>>39623248BTW I'm trans, I don't know if that matters.
>>39631826yes please
>>39623085I am casting spells like Dungeons and Dragons or Harry Potter. My last spell I cast summoned a tranny that hates christians and loves feet to this very thread OP
>>39623085Dis nigga can't even cast spells! Lool
>>39623265This.
>>39623085Nigga, why Harry Potter?I mean it.I've played a bit of Howards Legacy, shits gayer than the pride parade.
>>39623085>I hate how it always has to be hidden and rare. Like nah, its just fake and all bullshitLet me be clear: You don't even know what planet you're on, literally.THE FINAL REDPILL ...Read this thread:https://x.com/elitefeat/status/1742924942151438589Keep in mind that both Christians and atheists do not like what I have to say.Also, here's a supplementary post that contains some important details:https://x.com/elitefeat/status/1799553063390154856I can't tell you exactly when Jesus will arrive to destroy this planet (I can't even give you the year, let alone the month). But here's one thing I do know with 100% certainty: this planet is Bozrah, not Earth.
>>39629504I used to read some of Castaneda's books a long time but they were so boring I lost interest. Is the subreddit enough to learn all that's necessary?
>>39632353The books are helpful, but they aren’t necessary. A lot of people get confused because the first book was heavy on drug usage, drugs aren’t needed at all. It’s just that Carlos at the time needed to be thrown into states of unordinary reality because his assemblage point was so “fixed”, if that makes sense. I’m not a moralist, in moderation drug usage is fine, as long as you don’t go overboard occasionally taking mushrooms or smoking weed isn’t going to kill you. Just don’t conflate it for sorcery. And be careful, that post reeks of pretending. Attention seeking behavior is detrimental for learning sorcery. Dont get “hooked” on human attention and approval from anons, get hooked on actually seeing magic in front of your face every single night. At the end of the day the most important thing is consistent practice, discipline. Discipline is the only thing needed to do sorcery. If you can manage that you’re golden. The issue is that a lot of the types that are into learning sorcery in the first place are mentally ill. They’re prone to making shit up and exaggerating stories for attention. Again it’s not a moral thing, let’s use computer programming for an imperfect analogy. Lots of people pretend to be hackers online. There are lots of computer programmers who are complete pieces of shit as human beings, but because they payed attention in class and studied they are fantastic coders.
>>39632353>>39632968>Castanedalol that motherfucker made shit up and plagiarized other people's shit
>>39632991Go ahead and keep practicing shit that doesn’t work then, it’s no skin off my back. If you’re a woman it’s different, you get more slack for LARP the same way schizophrenic people do.
>>39633052lmao bruh stfu every "magician" on here is a larper
Le voudon gnostic workbook is a made up religion that people can hook themselves to via contract with le spirits of vodoun.You literal make the contract to work for them and they will work for you.Notice that you're WORKING FOR THEM.
>>39633052i fail to see what's so different for women. i go out of body a lot without much effort, even if uncontrollable, but thisngs like assemblage point escape my basic understanding.
>>39623085I casted a fireball spell a two weeks ago.
>>39633074I did this for a while, but kept my contract on hold because I want to grow spiritually, which takes us to other of my fantabulous adventures...Le Luciferian jingojamboEssentially: Treat the beings as your consciousness or energies within you, that you rouse or refine to deify yourself.The idea behind Luciferian religion is "holy shit, let's get my shit together".
>>39623085I've always thought the same thing, but I think it's a combination of what you said. The Dugeons and Dragons shit exists, it's just that nobody who can do that stuff would be stupid enough to do it publicly and ruin the advantages they now have over the billions of other humans on the planet. Especially since their likely exists some governing body of magicians that would have you killed and silenced, and now with advances in technology they could explain away any video proof you post with "it's AI generated".Unless you plan on doing public mass murder on a large population by flying around and casting fireballs, killing tens of thousands to create witness accounts so that magic is undeniably proven and nobody can suppress the information, there is no point in publicly using your abilities to "reveal magic to the world".Imagine if you woke up tomorrow and you could do real magic that affects phyiscal reality (cast fireballs, telekinesis, etc). Would you really waste your time going around casting fireballs, or would you go to a roulette table and a casino and become an overnight millionaire? I know what I would do.I think real magic is out there, it's just that you'll get killed and silenced if you use it, and anyone who is smart enough to discover real magic and attain abilities, would also be smart enough to deduce the this same possibility and risk, and would instead use their magic in covert means to live a convenient life in upperclass society. I'd be spending my time traveling the world, living off of casino wins (you'd honestly only have to win big once and never visit a casino again).
>>39633094Another venue I have explored is relatively ez to prove to your furrsona, chaos magick, essentially it's a freeform adogmatic form of casting pew pews.One simple way to prove this shit to yourself would be creating a sigil that gives you mental clarity, if the sigil works, gratz, the magick does.
>>39633074So this covers working with spirits (the lwa).>>39633094This covers spiritofestive development>>39633120And this proves general jack of all trades magickia le arte.All three, I have gotten results from.
>>39633120>One simple way to prove this shit to yourself would be creating a sigil that gives you mental clarity, if the sigil works, gratz, the magick does.No, that's one simple way towards self delusion via placebo:1. "Mental Clarity" is vague2. You need to test that mental clarity in an objective way, if it's "just a feeling" and not for an extending duration, you are just playing mind games with yourself and coping.
>>39633145I do not run entertainment bizs, tag along, bud
>>39633082I’ll do the best I can to explain the assemblage point in another post, it’s an easy concept to grasp don’t worry. Women have periods, their assemblage point moves naturally with it. Women have wombs, the secondary function of a womb is to perceive energy as it flows in the universe. Where a man struggles to move his assemblage point for 3 hours, a woman has the ability to go there in 30 seconds (albeit without memory of doing so)The methods I showed here are more beneficial for men, as in dark room gazing, because it requires obsessive daily practice while forcing the internal dialogue to stay silent. Obsessive thinking and brute force.Men and women are simply built different, it’s not a question of which is “better”
>>39633152>I do not run entertainment bizs, tag along, budincomprehensible drivel, please try again. Trying to create a servitor would be a more accurate test, but it would have to be a servitor for something specific enough that the result could not be attributed to coincidence or luck. I have yet to well written method for that though (that doesn't seem to leave out important details).
>>39633169And as for the assemblage point, our reality is created by a glow that moves down our back, and can move to the front of us, like the shape of the letter J. The universe is made up of dark filaments, or strings. These strings enter your assemblage point, which for modern humans rests about an arms length behind your shoulders. These strings then assemble the reality you are able to perceive.Learning to move the assemblage point allows for different fibers to enter it, meaning you can assemble different realities.
>>39633082Same person, I just want to add on that women simply learn in a different way than men tend to. Women tend to find it easier to move their AP but that doesn’t mean you don’t have to work hard, or that you can make up random stuff and have that be considered valid sorcery. You have to work just as hard as men, but you will have different struggles and different challenges.
>>39633169i find it hard to believe that anything would take 3h to go anywhere. just earlier this week i was listening to hemi-sync before falling asleep as saw purple before falling asleep.
>>39633372You saw purple puffs of color, you did not make it into the red zone of the J-curve.
>>39633390>>39633372And on top of that you fell asleep, you lost consciousness. You didn’t make it as far as you think you did.
>>39633398fair enough. i was trying to extrapolate based on prior experiences.
>>39631879Huh? is that pic of you then?
>>39633065>every "magician" on here is a larperYou're wrong, but you're pretty close to right. There are a very small number of guys on here, myself included (I'm not who you're replying to,) who are The Real Deal. Maybe 10 or less, and they drift in and out.
>>39635035NTA but I call bullshit, nobody with real magic would waste even 1 second posting online on a forum for losers, when they could be eating a steak dinner, at a vacation spot, having sex with a model, etc. If you have real magic abilities, creating such a life would not be a problem.People like you are either larping, or worse, delusional and using mental gymnastics to convince themselves that they are exceptional, despite their life being so average.
>>39635062>if you really were [x] you'd care about [y]! because I said so!Do you not see how flimsy this is? You're showing your youth.
>>39635114>Do you not see how flimsy this is? You're showing your youth.It's very flimsy to mischaracterize someones argument into a strawman and then argue against that.My argument is more like - "If you really had magic powers, you'd have better more entertaining and enjoyable things you could than browse a forum for mostly schizo posters".All this vague abstract BS of X and Y is your attempt to muddy the waters of how retarded you look trying to claim you have magic powers but you couldn't be doing anything better with your time than arguing with me right?It's called common sense and reasoning. Wealthy people without magic powers don't spend a lot of time on this forum, so why would a person with real magic powers be here?Unless you have some kind of special curse that your powers won't work unless you use 4chan atleast once a week, it doesn't make sense that so many people who allegedly have powers keep coming here to post instead of IDK............ living life.This is my last response to this nonsense, good bye, I'm not going to help you larp or relieve your boredom. Go watch Netflix or something.
>>39635165You're genuinely too unintelligent to hold a conversation with in any case. Have a nice evening, hylicbro.
>>39623351HxH has horrible worldbuilding tho. The muggles are written as complete retards to not being able to notice all the magic bullshit happening.
>OP has never been to a concert and tried to resist the waves of influences from the powerful magiciansNgmi
>>39635666>HxH has horrible worldbuilding tho. The muggles are written as complete retards to not being able to notice all the magic bullshit happening.Ever read a manhwa called "The Gamer", if think if magic is a secret in the world it probably works like it works in that universe. Basically all magicians, martial artists that cultivate qi, etc can do a basic "magic" which is to create an "illusion barrier" or "protected space" that usually only other people who have special abilities can enter. Everything that happens in that space does not happen on the outside (it's like a copy of whatever the barrier encapsulates gets created, and those things can get destroyed, but real physical reality isn't impacted). The barrier looks invisible to normal people, so normal everyday people are just walking past/through dimensional gates that won't activate for them, with battles happening around them all the time.It's a really good Manhwa, and this specific aspect of the world building always impressed me because it solved the typical "why hasn't this information been leaked yet" problem that you see in all the other series. Dragon Ball Z has the most retarded humans imaginable. They show up to tournaments and watch guys shoot energy beams and act like it's normal lol, it's crazy.>>39635724Retard, where did I say magic isn't real, I said the retards posting about it can't do it.Why are people who have mastery over remote viewing and astral projection still poor wage slaves?It's because:A. They don't have complete mastery over it, so maybe they should waste less time talking about it online and spend more time practicingB. They are deluded and they can't actually do it.My point is simple, nobody with abilities should be wasting their time posting here. If I had the most minor ability I'd stop posting to 4chan the next day and spend all of my time training it till I could use it to cheat my way into financial freedom and more practice.
>>39635756>manhwa
>>39635724>OntarioDid you ever hear the tragedy of Smiley the Fringe Wizard?
>>39635806Holy shit, it really was him in that stream. AHAHAHAHA
>>39635791I read manhuas too, if you want to limit yourself to just one genre of asian weeb content that's on you ;)Actually there are some things that are better about the Manhwas and the Manhuas than Manga. The protagonists in Mangas tend to be weak willed bitches, but in Manwhas and Manhuas they are usually ruthless.
>>39635840Reverend Insanity bro, is that you?
>>39635850Comick.io is the best site based on what I've found so far. You know I never actually finished Reverend Insanity, good thing you reminded me.My favorite ruthless MC is actually Yi Tianyun from "Crazy Leveling System" - https://comick.io/comic/crazy-leveling-systemI've read a lot of Manhwa and Manhua and found myself sometimes disappointed with the actions of the MC. That never happened even once while reading Crazy Leveling System. In fact there were times where I was thinking he was going overboard and fighting and killing too much and that he should just run away lol. I rate this even above Solo Leveling I don't care what anyone has to say lol.
>>39635724I hope you deleted this because you realized how fucking retarded this post was after watching the last video by "sysenik".
>>39635756>nobody with abilities should be wasting their time here Absolutely correct.
>>39636115I saw the first video with the stream when I originally saw it but not the second video. The first one is still legit.https://www.youtube.com/@MagicIsntRealHere/streamsHere have replacement videos with Tyler Henry. I consider him the goat.Reads someone's private thoughts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YiiI0VPE-c4Predicts the California wildfires https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qypyrPbY2MPredicting a heart attack deathhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jv1zoSM_ydwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPHxowv7XUYIn every episode he does psychometry. He reads Snooki's stuffed bear and connects it to her uncle.https://youtu.be/gP82x_WMgzs?t=121He can read pictures when flipped upside down.https://youtu.be/ANSLsUs-_7k?t=1404Predicts the immediate futurehttps://youtu.be/7g9NbVVEDBs?t=159inb4 deboonked cope
>>39636372Are you legitimately retarded? Holy shit. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXApMHwyFyU
>>39636390Don't pay attention to that. He is doing all according to keikaku nonsense. He gets proven wrong in this video.https://www.youtube.com/@MagicIsntRealHere/streams
Basically, the 3D world is dense in a way things happen slowly and following certain rules here. So the stereotypical magic of making something appear out of nowhere is fake. Magic/LOA/prayer are basically using the 4D (consciousness) to manipulate the 3D, but everything happens according to the time and matter limitations of the 3D world.Most things take years or even decades. I can see how some stuff in my life now is a reflection of strong intentions I had 10, 20 years ago. Look up famous people and see how many of them talk about already envisioning being exactly the type of person they are now when they were kids or teens.This life is basically God having a limited, human experience, so it would be pointless for us to just get whatever we want immediately with a finger snap. It's about the stories and experiences.
"Wizard's First Rule: people are stupid."
>>39636414the account that proved him "wrong" was his own second account, come on man. I'm not even a skeptic but don't post stuff that's obviously wrong
>>39636415Neville isn’t bad but there are better ways of going about it.
>>39636721Please tell me about them.
Bumping this glorious thread.
>>39623085>If magic is real why is nobody casting spells like Dungeons and Dragons or Harry Potter?because the mage with no internal power is impotentand since 99.999999999999999% of everyone either does not know how to cultivate internal power or they are unwilling to put forth the effort, this means 99.9999% of magickal workings wind up being garbage wastes of time like cranking over your engine until the starter burns out but the car never starts cuz you got no gas
because eleven have decided that all the secrets should be hidden
