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Welcome. The purpose of this general is to show you how to use your own wonderful human imagination to achieve your every desire.

The world and all within it is man’s conditioned consciousness objectified. Consciousness is the cause as well as the substance of the entire world. So it is to consciousness that we must turn if we would discover the secret of creation. Knowledge of the law of consciousness and the method of operating this law will enable you to accomplish all you desire in life.

Your assumptions right now decide how long that will take for you.

The Main Concepts:
> Imagination creates Reality
> Assumptions harden into fact
> Consciousness is the only Reality
> Feeling is the Secret
> Prayer, Living in the End/In the Wish Fulfilled (remaining Faithful to your Idea)
> You are the Operant Power
> There is no one to change but Self (Self-Concept)
> Thinking Fourth-Dimensionally (Time is an Illusion)

> Can I manifest ___?
Yes! Creation is finished.

> Curious? Do the Ladder Experiment
pastebin.com/yXqanLu6

> The Simple Technique
https://pastebin.com/LNwqkDms

> Who is Neville Goddard?
Neville was a mystic who taught the Bible as a parable of the human psyche — a great psychological drama — and not a record of historical events.

Recommendations for beginners:
> How to manifest your desires (Core 5 Lessons & Radio Talks)
mega.nz/folder/V8ESkKzC#bHIFV4BxgHk7ksf6Pwq_-Q

> Neville's Feeling is the Secret
files.catbox.moe/rrsh2g.pdf
files.catbox.moe/wwq24r.epub
>> Audiobook
http://youtu.be/ffNWoefuwPM [Open]

>> Audiobook
http://youtu.be/_UoGV6LBwds [Open]

—/ Extra resources /—
>Master Index
pastebin.com/Ne1Tms8S

> Universal Line
drive.google.com/drive/folders/1X9dB7eDI5RcHOBvixGjAhZ_lgJjJIhGq
https://files.catbox.moe/fxv61u.pdf

> Library
mega.nz/folder/Ns9mhDSC#iKKxSnq5EoG_GxYLeylrSg
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Lame circlejerk
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>>39685096
attracting snowbunnies and cocaine
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>tried the manifestation thing for money
>suddenly got money

but hot dang, what even haopened there
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Educate yourself
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>>39685119
whatever toll you paid it will be doubled
money is just a concept what you can buy for it is real though
I'd play my fiddle longer but yeah =)
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I'm content. I have this great, big, contentness about my life. All the things I've asked for are mine, and have been mine, all along. I flow through life, experiencing all the things that make me feel happy, make me feel exhilarated, make me feel whole. All is mine.
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>>39685123
no just get more and more stupider ples
>>39685128
that's hotel california in a nutshell
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>>39685132
Let me just manifest my sp so I can cheat in peace here bud.
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I'm a total beginner and I want to start with something that might sound stupid: I need to get my Yahoo email accounts unlocked, I got myself locked out of accounts that I've had for about 20 years now
I've only managed to find advice for big things like life events, lots of money, etc, how do I do something small like this
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>>39685651
assume the state where it is done
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>>39685679
Okay thank you
I'll read the materials in the sticky
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>>39685687
>>39685700
stfu you retarded garbage bot
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>>39685119
Money is energy. The more you freely give in good faith, the more it returns to you. The less you care about it (i.e. put it away and don't count it), the more it multiplies. I am fortunate that I understood this concept when I was very young and impressionable and didn't question it, and therefore money has never been an issue with me. I don't make much at my job but somehow my bank account is very full, I own multiple cars and a house. Honestly I'm amazed. It's because I have no resistance. I know that I can leave a huge tip at a restaurant or buy things for others or treat myself to whatever because that money is coming right back to me. It's an exchange of energy.

Now relationships on the other hand.... I'm (not getting) fucked, because at some point I convinced myself that relationships are difficult, they I'm not worthy of them, something. It really does all come down to our core beliefs as our ourselves and the world.
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>>39685096
How can I manifest a situation where im sitting with a woman on a bed like OP pic
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So you guys think you're going to get whatever you want just by fantasizing about it enough? How's that working out for you?
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>>39685651
Relax and get into alpha waves / SATS.

Imagine you are on your computer or your phone etc, however you would check your email.
Imagine the login page, and you're typing in your credentials.
Imagine seeing a successful login.

Now loop that, over and over.
Login page, typing in your info, and it loads your inbox.
Login. Type. Inbox.
Login. Type. Inbox.

Over and over until you have an unmistakable feeling of success. You can FEEL the success in your chest that you've logged in! Hooray!

Loop as long as you want, revel in the joy, and whenever you're done you can stop looping and sit back with the knowledge that it's done. It's out of your hands. The universe / your higher self / God is handling it now. You put the order in. Wait for it to show up.

Be on the lookout for flashes of inspired action. Like you suddenly get the idea of how to unlock your account - a kind of "what a great idea, why haven't I thought of that till now?" moment. Take that action.
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>>39685940
Very well, thank you.
And thank me! I used it for the greatest good, which includes you. A seeker. A belieber.
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>>39685918
why not just tell yourself over n over that relationships are easy?
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I'm just gonna say it
If you don't use LoA/Manifestation for the greatest good possible for all of us
You're a faggot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TI3frbEp-nA
I hope it all makes sense to ball like this, the large address
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Copied from last thread that died -

My friends, I’d like some insight.

When I’m clearheaded and level, I have a sense of knowing. I look at the world around me, the TV, texts, games, social outings, and I feel as if I “know” it all. I feel like nothing is a surprise. Even predicting the immediate future as setting things in motion related to my desires or goals. Could anyone give more insight to this?

Another issue, there are circumstances that cause my mood to drop and I feel more baser and upsetting urges, rage, lack or need, and it becomes harder to “feel”. Do any other anons dip like this on occasion, and if so could I receive advice from someone who’s felt these things? Personally for me I’m working on these circumstances, and I am becoming much better.

Much love to everyone on their paths.
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>>39685972
We can all do that. You have to believe. You believe. So you see.
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https://youtu.be/qLrnkK2YEcE

That boy needs therapy!
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>Accession in property law is a mode of acquiring property that involves the addition of value to the property through labour or the addition of new materials. For example, a person who owns a property on a river delta also takes ownership of any additional land that builds up along the riverbank due to natural deposits or man-made deposits.
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>>39686056
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvvQwYXPV-s
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>>39685096
Can i manifest things on pure feelings alone without the visulazation part, i can get the tingling feeling if i foucs on the feeling, i have a little bit of doubt if manifestation will come to frution

and also i can manifest without lying down or at night when im about to go to sleep i can still get that tingling feeling when im sitting and manifesting
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>>39686069
You have to sink your desires to a subconscious level. Simple as.
If benevolent, your desires come to fruition amply.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAjR4_CbPpQ
MANIFESTING A BETTER FUTURE FOR ALL OF US
HARDER
BETTER
FASTER
STRONGER
GO
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MANIFESTING GOOD THINGS FOR EVERYONE WORKS BETTER THAN ANY OTHER MANIFESTATION
DO IT
MAKE SENSE LONGER
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>>39686097
OUR WORK IS NEVER OVER
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>>39685935
It looks like homer hired a hooker and is sad that he is so lonley and have to hire woman for their company is that the situation do you wanna be in
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0VnPiyXSRQ
THIS THE REAL ONE BABY
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>>39686085
How can i do that exactly
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>>39686103
Thats not how the episode went at all, but zoomers don't know about simpsons

in any case, its a troll pic
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Guys I revised that I bought bitcoin early and didn't sell it and now I'm a fucking billionaire. That's how this works right?
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>>39685963
That's what i would do if i really wanted to manifest one. I really don't care about relationships right now though so it's not very high on my list of things to manifest. I had a serious relationship for several years and I don't really want to get back into one.
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How did this women healed herself in a few seconds without even believing ? It literally took a few seconds, watch the video below. incredible !
Does it mean you don't even have to believe ?

https://xcancel.com/TheRubberDuck79/status/1881674540440580401
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>>39686349
if you believe that you don't have to believe.....
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>>39686123
Practice. Formulate a desire. Engage your willpower. Then believe it will come. Then let it go. Then work towards it. Then stop. Then work towards it, Then stop, Then work, and work, and believe, and there it will be,
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>>39685096
Why ruin the title format
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>>39685123
So... I see the steps here. I understand them all completely except #2.
>2) I engage it with my WILL (whereby it is >involved in the world)
What does that mean, to engage the desire with your will? I've had some results with affirmations but would like my manifestations to be quicker. I would hope that me affirming, by speaking/writing/thinking and putting myself in the mindset of it's already done is a form of "engaging my will" but I don't know, the language there is kind of abstract.
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>>39685918
>The more you freely give in good faith, the more it returns to you.
If this was the case there wouldn't be miserly and selfish millionaires And those are pretty common

>The less you care about it (i.e. put it away and don't count it), the more it multiplies.
This is more like it, you assume you have money and don't have a poverty mindset so that's what you get

It's not about giving or not giving it's about your assumptions for everything including relationships
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>>39685918
To continue further I would say that the majority of rich people are not generous because their wealth is built as a result of them having a highly acquisitive nature and stumbling or learning the right assumptions with regards to money.

The rich people who are generous tend to be very generous. These types often acquire their wealth not because of acquisitiveness but indirectly thru other means, for example an engineer starting his own successful company, successful musicians etc etc. Money is a byproduct to these types rather than the main goal
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>>39687766
>>39687869
Just sharing my personal experience with money. When I give freely it's because I don't have a scarcity mindset.
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its all real
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>>39686169
>in any case, its a troll pic
No it's not.
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>>39687982
Me too.

>When I give freely it's because I don't have a scarcity mindset.
That's great. It's a great mindset to have.
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Few days a go say that I keep seeing repeating numbers
>One anon says that I basically manifest it and should use the same belief for other manifestations
>For the next two days I didn't see repeating numbers at all
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Investigating on celebrities that have used manifestations has led me to convince me a 100% that this shit is real, pretty much every famous motherfucker has used it, knowingly or not, for example, lets see some of thenames i saw in just 30 minutes searching
>Jim Carrey (came from nothing)
>Marylin Monroe (came from nothing)
>Kanye West, has a (unreleased) song called law of attraction (came from nothing)
>MICHAEL FUCKING JACKSON (he was poor during childhood)
>Connor Mcgregor was gifted "the secret" by his sister, he visualized his fights before they played out, some of his predictions were so accurate some people called him "Mystic Mike"
>Rod Serling (writer from the twithlight zone) was DIRECTLY A DISCIPLINE OF NEVILLE GODDARD
>Arnold Schwarzenegger (I copy pasted his name because fuck writing that) was also poor, his autobiography, Total Recall, is partially aboutb manifesting
>Lady Gaga
>Drake
>Denzel Washington
>Muhammad Ali
>Bruce Lee
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>>39689227
twitlight*
about*
btw most of these people were poor during childhood, they are not nepo babies
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>>39689227
Skepticsisters our response?
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>>39689258
NO RESPONSE POSSIBLE, FUCK OFF
IAll of the biggest stars of the entertainment industry have all used this technique, dont believe me? google "[Famous name] + manifestation" and see for yourself. 90% of times theres a pretty clear pattern
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>off-topic op image
>fucked up the subject title
>left the embeds in
>no last thread link
boo! bake a new thread!
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>>39689430
>>39689430
>>39689430

MIGRATE!
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>>39688294
>post-scarcity wealth
can report how awesome this is
I don't really understand it nor question it anymore
I feel very wealthy
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>>39685968
>muh reptile jews are turning the frogs gay
no thanks faggot, I'll just use it for the most selfish reasons possible
>>39686090
>>39686097
how about you suck a dick instead?
>>39687381
throws off the tripfags
>>39689431
never, tripfag
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>>39689227
>>39689280
They worked hard for the money and fame.
The mental outlook benefits of affirming success helped them visualise and work towards that goal. They still had to act. They did not make the fame and money appear out of thin air. You can trace their careers and things build up.
So that’s not saying LoA isn’t real - it’s saying the Lilanon time travelling and transforming into a supernatural creature stuff is absolutely fake.
Discuss real LoA not trip delusions.
You manifest the changes by focussing your mind on them and then it’s more likely that you’ll succeed because you believe you will.
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>>39689417
Atleast I made a thread when it 404d you faggot.
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>>39686099
Although it is tiresome (the work)
your posts are like a potion of endurance
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>>39689857
Drink up and manifest the best, lads
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>>39689837
learn to do it better then, retard.
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>>39689568
of course there needs to be work for a manifestation to realize, Neville said this while he talked about "inspired action", actions that you do effortlessly knowing that they'll get you whatever you want.
Sometimes the action is simply knowing that it is already yours, other times it is being suddenly inspired to perform a specific effortless or fairly easy task while knowing it'll get you what you want.

in sport related celebrities is it harder for me to pinpoint the exact moment an improbable event that changed their career happened due to me not knowing or giving a fuck about the rules and technicalities of the sports they practice but doing that is fairly easy for "regular celebrities", let's see:

>Marylin Monroe:She met photographer David Conover, who had been sent by captain Ronald Reagan, to the factory to shoot morale-boosting pictures of female workers.Although none of her pictures were used, she quit working at the factory in January 1945 and began modeling for Conover and his friends
>Jim Carrey: (not related to his fame but won a bike in a raffle he didn't enter after manifesting it with a technique his teacher gave him) He put a check on himself for ten million dollars on Thanksgiving 1995 and all the necessary events for him to pay that check arrived just in time for that exact date.
>Rod Serling: He was a student of Neville and he scripted studios responding to the scripts he sent to them with out of character letters. The studios responded with the same out of character responses he imagined
>Connor McGregor famously predicted the fights that took him to stardom (even though he used his fame later to do nasty shit)
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>>39689568
I suspect lilanon's dickriders are so desperate that they really need LoA to be physics-defying and not something mundane, so they get their panties in a twist at the mere suggestion that you can't in fact be a flying elven vampire werewolf
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Posting in the non-mother anon thread because it’s more likely to be about LOA.
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just imagined myself last night receiving a job offer before sleep and i woke up this morning and guess what happened
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>>39690146
you didn't receive a job offer?
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>>39690034
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>>39690190
i did receive
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>manifest a text message, visualise it on my phone
>get a dm in another app the next day
Appreciate it though
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>>39688326
I suggested that you observe how beliefs form in your mind. I call it snowballing effect. You see event and instead of brushing it off as 'random' you focus your attention on it (in your case seeing 'angelic' numbers) and the thing tends to repeat itself because of the meaning you gave it.
Now, when you observe beliefs they tend to disappear unless you deliberately give them 'energy' (this time consciously).
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>>39690526
So, I'm the person you responded to and this post >>39690341
How do I focus my attention to it to make it happen more. Notice the increasing amounts of texts/dm?
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>>39690782
>texts/dm?
Stop wasting time with this insignificant shit, dude. What do you want? Date? Then go to that. Relationship? Then go to that. Sex? Then go to that. Go to the end
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>>39688098
Yes it is anon, yes it is.
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>>39690034
ditto, bump for visibility over that finngolian failure's thread
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>>39685918
very interesting
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>>39685096
Things are wonderful. My family easily helps everyone in need now and receives endless abundance in return. Things are better than ever and they continue to improve daily. Everyone who has ever helped me or my family is incredibly blessed and happy to see the immense wealth and endless happiness and success my family now enjoys
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>>39685119
How much?
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>>39686215
nope you can't change the past, you can only change the feelings you had in the past.
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So it’s not the best OP but it’s manifested out of good will and the Finnish failure will spam his own pointless duplicate and Lilanon will also likely go there because he loves his fellow trip (no matter how stupid they are)
Everyone that hates them and insulted them will go there too.
This could be a winning thread.
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>>39689227
>Investigating on celebrities that have used manifestations has led me to convince me a 100% that this shit is real,
That's funny to see someone who hasn't opened his eyes yet. Mate, celebrities all sold their soul, you can't become famous if you are not part of the club. It's all of them. Nothing to do with LOA.
Sell you soul to the devil and you'll become famous tomorrow too.
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>>39690986
What I want is what I want. If you can't answer the question don't bother.
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>>39692007
Looks like it, this is a nice thread for once
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>>39692007
this, might actually be a productive one for a change
total tripfag annihilation
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I DON'T CARE ABOUT FUCKING LIL ANON OPINIONS ON ANYTHING AND NEITHER SHOULD U FAGGOTS1!1!11!!!!
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Cult anon here:

A number of wild shit has happened

I have set up IRL group spiritual sessions and we are hosting them regularly now.

I have 11-13 converts now. Similar number as the Disciples of Jesus (with the 13th Disciple of Jesus being Judas)

Nigerian gangs have robbed banks and the converts have discussed robbing the gang that robbed the banks which I put a stop to cuz it was way too dangerous.

Then a woman posted an ad saying that her friend was being held against her will in a terrorist/warzone area and wanted some help to get her out of there.

I am going to find out whether what she is saying is true or false and if it's true we might have the first mission for our cult :D
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>>39692265
I care about him misleading new anons
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>>39692286
Starting to wonder if someday I'm going to get questioned by the FBI about a charismatic cult leader and what I witnessed on 4chan
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Whats the LoA visualisation strategy for the following:
>A girl to blow my load down the neck of
>A fuck ton of money

>>39692286
Manifest a pilot with an Mi8 transport joining your cult to ferry you around. Post a picture of it when its done.
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>>39692976
One of the cult members is currently in training to be a pilot. We planned to have an airfield for our commune so the pilot in training cult member can help out.

However we don't have a plane of our own yet.

And we gotta make sure that the woman posting the ad is being truthful.
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my successes
>have manifested women noticing me
>have manifested women showing clear signs of attraction to me
>have manifested women initiating conversation with me
(still to autistic to speak to them)

>also manifested full beard growth
>also manifested increased flaccid penis size (no change in erection size, but that was not my goal)
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>>39692839
probably not
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Been doing SATs for like 20 days, haven't felt the feeling of knowing it's "finished" or feeling it done in the morning, am I misunderstanding something about how I need to visualize?
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>>39693085
Personally I always thought that shit was a meme. Posted by larpers who don't actually practice.
Enter SATS, play your scene, attach positive emotion to scene, repeat scene until too bored to continue, get up/sleep.
That's all.
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>>39685956
Thank you so so much for going into detail like this for me! This is exactly the kind of advice I was looking for! =D
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Does anyone here know how to use microdosing to manifest?
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Why is it that when a young teen, full of hormones, constantly imagines himself with the women he desires, he doesn't always get what he wants?
Even when his imagination is full of emotion and he can almost taste it?
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>>39693772
Sure thing. Keep us updated
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I've been lurking and this shit just seems like you're just supposed to live in your head.
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a reminder that it is this simple, anons. don't make it more complicated than it has to be. trust. believe.
https://www.unityvillagechapel.org/uploads/1/0/3/5/10350251/golden_key_essay.pdf
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>>39692083
>can't infer your own answer from the answer given
Dumb and pathetic (texts lmao)
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>>39687571
I think it means taking action basically, though I'm also struggling to understand it from that post
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>>39695234
>engage it with your will
>taking action
Lol
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>>39694751
That's exactly what it is. This shit is dangerous and can get you killed or institutionalized.
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>>39693862
You don't. Like Neville, you have to drink until your liver is shot.
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>>39694030
I want to know this as well I had a vivid imagination and heavy desire there was this one specific girl I imagined doing it with in such a way for least 2 years but I never got laid in my teens I didn't lost my virginity till I was 23 even.

I guess there is other aspects to it that weren't there to make it happen right?
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>>39695536
>>39694030
Based on myself, I think its because you have some negative beliefs or emotions associated with it, such as neediness/desperation or low self esteem (to the point where you'd be surprised if a woman paid attention to you rather than accepting it as normal or natural).

A strong neediness repels even easy things. I'll have a bad day where I fantasize about just getting home and relaxing with a video game and the world conspires to make sure that doesn't happen.

From things I can get easily, it seems the right way to think about them is whatever reinforces a calm, centered state of mind, whether it's "I already have this easily" or "I could genuinely take it or leave it" (may be easier to achieve if you have blocks)
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How do I wake up tomorrow with money? I have a powerful mind but I have a hard time believing in manifestation.
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>>39694030
>is desperate for thing
>doesn't get thing
>hurr y it no hapen?????
Read the actual material before making more stupid posts, retard
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>>39694751
>I've been lurking and this shit just seems like you're just supposed to live in your head.
that's why you need to be honest, and evaluate if your technique works
If not, you need to rethink things, and try a different approach.
I will say if you don't get your manifest in a week (or see progress in a week), then you need to rethink things.
And that's why I set a time limit on my manifests. If it didn't work in a week, I count that as a failure, and then move on. And maybe it would have worked in 2 weeks, or a month or whatever if I had just waited, but I don't have time to wait for something that may or may not ever arrive. So I cut it off at a certain time limit.
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If God is preventing me from my desire due to me being lesser in comparison to someone else, and God knows what's best for everyone involved, then I'm just going to go pump and dump younger chicks and lead them on if they like me because I really don't give a fuck anymore
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>>39696675
are you though? or are you just venting, and none of that will happen
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>>39696691
Are you deaf?
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>>39692208
>>39692214
guess not
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>>39685096
I had a dream I was in a tantric union with a woman who had pale skin, dark veins and her eyes were all black.

Glittering, crystalline dust poured from the roof like hourglass sand from the rocky cave of a cavern within the chthonic earth. On closer inspection, the sand was an incredibly thick grit of crystals and gold dust.

Of course this is the type of manifestation that occurs with my Plutonic and Saturnian-affinity. i barely have to try to illicit this response and receive magnitudes more in this category than my fellow man.

Simply because I have more, want more, and deserve more.
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I hope you guys can give me some insight into this.

I've been experimenting with the LoA for a few months now, and I've got to the point where I agree with the anons saying your manifestation should take a week or less. I set it, I forget it, every time I think of it I automatically respond with "this is being taken care of for me" and let go, and without fail things are coming in steady and speedy.
Examples:
>money
>very specific circumstances at work
>very very specific intentions for other people
>thinking "people say x to me about my looks/give me y/do z for me" and it happens

The ONE thing that eludes me is SP. I'm manifesting my ex and anytime I do SATS scenes with her I get the feeling of doneness stronger than any of these other things, I've had a good feeling about her for a couple months now, mutuals have been telling me she loves me and is miserable without me. Nothing about my techniques or methods for her is any different from the other things I am manifesting successfully and regularly. But she hasn't talked to me in 2.5 months now and ignored when I sent her a birthday wish. Recently she has taken to leaving events/gatherings when she heard I was coming.
I'm still feeling the doneness and my mindset with her from day 1 has been, like with all other manifestations, "it's taken care of for me, the 3D reflection will come when it comes" - it's just for everything else it takes less than a week, and here she is defying that rule.

What gives?
I'd appreciate any advice.
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>>39697266
YEAH WHAT GIVES
FOR ME NEARLY 15 YEARS
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>>39697301
Have you had other successes?
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>>39697348
I have and it is quite wild
albeit the soul barrier is a hard limit i m o
I am content with climbing ladders and carting wheelbarrows a t m
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>>39696312
that's fair, I don't think the technique itself matters that much, but if it doesn't happen within a week or a month you probably need to tackle it from a different angle
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>>39697266
>it's just for everything else it takes less than a week, and here she is defying that rule.
A woman who is into you doesn't leave an event where she knows you will be present.
She wants to forget you, dont mess with her mind please, this is not advisable.
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>>39694030
you don't manifest it by desire, you manifest it by knowing that you already have it.
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>>39697266
>mutuals have been telling me she loves me and is miserable without me. Nothing about my techniques or methods for her is any different from the other things I am manifesting successfully and regularly.
manifest her texting you
if she really is miserable without you and still loves you, then all you need to do is get her to contact you. that's it really.
so I'd focus on that
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>>39697982
>that's fair, I don't think the technique itself matters that much, but if it doesn't happen within a week or a month you probably need to tackle it from a different angle
yeah exactly
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>>39689227
most of these are talented, ambitious individuals, but given manifestation, it can only help ambition and vice versa
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>>39685096
Give me examples of this working for you and if ut did why dont you have 8 billion dollars rn
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>>39698500
this is the loa thread
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>>39689227
Michael Jackson
>already wealthy when he wrote that journal
>"let me try to change my fashion sense and act more mature"
>he manifested everything!
are you retarded?
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Your desires exist in the multiverse. You need to stop wanting and let go.
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>>39700239
got several jobs through it, and some other minor happy coincidences that aligned how I wanted them
>why dont you have 8 billion dollars rn
in b4
>wHaT mAkEs YoU ThInk I WAnT 8 BiLLiOn DoLLaRs
I would if I could
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>>39700561
Clarify?
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>>39700239
What the fuck am I going to do with 8 billion dollars?
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How to manifest money?
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>>39689227
Manifestation exists, but so does selling your soul to Moloch.
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>manifestation realized again
>included the exact people I thought of
It's crazy how it just werks. Remember not to give a fuck about the 'how'.
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>>39701524
anything? everything? you can probably buy a small African country with that kind of money
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>>39700304
Exactly, not the "mess with someone's mind" thread.
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>>39701584
Even my dream home barely costs 1 million. I've looked at expensive reputable fashion brands and majority of them don't have my style to spend the money. I cna already afford all my hobbies, car, house, vacations, eating out nonstop.... it would take some insane ambitiom for me to rationalize having 8 billion dollars. I literally hate warm/hot climates too, so buying an island or place in Africa is beyond a waste of my time. I'd need to buy land in Antarctica, but it's practically inhospitable.
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>>39689534
wtf it really threw off the tripfags
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>>39701546
>>manifestation realized again
>>included the exact people I thought of
>It's crazy how it just werks. Remember not to give a fuck about the 'how'.
100%
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>>39696012
Don't focus on the money, focus on what you'd do with the money.
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>>39701821
>I'd need to buy land in Antarctica, but it's practically inhospitable
The real problem is Antarctic is forbidden for us peasants. Aliens there probably.
If you manifest a million, buy a land in south of france (well a million is probably not enough but you always manifest more monee). France sucks but the south is beautiful.
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>>39697982
>but if it doesn't happen within a week or a month you probably need to tackle it from a different angle
So if I don't manifest my million within one month it means I did something wrong ?
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>>39702460
>Don't focus on the money, focus on what you'd do with the money.
NTA
If I had a million dollars, I'd quit my job
I imagined that end state, and all of sudden I got in trouble at work. Meaning I was manifesting the conditions that would lead to me no longer having a job (getting fired), not getting a million dollars
Which was pretty frustrating
I guess what you're saying is I should focus on what I WOULD do with the money, not what I would stop doing if I had the money.
So if I had the money, I'd invest it in a bunch of diversified investments and live of the dividends and interests. And essentially retire.
So I'd basically do nothing. Well, I'd do what I actually want to do, but I'd use the money to retire and then live a boring life. Which is sort of counter intuitive.
So what I should be imagining is "putting 1 million dollars into a diversified portfolio of stocks". And getting that passive investment income
And I have imagined that, but by focusing on the end state. "I have a million dollars in stocks". Not "I am putting 1 million into stocks". So I dunno.
I think you're on to something, and thanks for the idea. I think that will help in my goals.

I definitely won't be manifesting "I no longer have a job, and just do whatever I want all day because I am retired with 1 million in savings" because "I no longer have a job" was manifesting with way less resistance than "I have a million dollars" which is annoying, but I guess makes sense if I take different levels of resistance into account.
So I need to focus solely on having the money directly, not anything else that might come from it. Just focus only on the money. Okay, yeah that makes sense. Everything else will come from that anyway, so I don't really need to manifest what happens afterward.
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>>39702592
>>but if it doesn't happen within a week or a month you probably need to tackle it from a different angle
>So if I don't manifest my million within one month it means I did something wrong ?
well you have two options
You can just continue as you are, waiting and hoping. And maybe that million will arrive
Or, you can accept that it didn't work, and try a new approach.
That's what I do. I'm very honest with myself. If I don't see results within a couple days to a week, I just toss it and assume it won't happen. Then I go back to the drawing board and try to figure out what I could do differently. Then I try again
Once I get anything, any kind of results, I immediately follow THAT technique, and just keep doing it over and over again for the time being. No reason to quit doing what works.
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>>39702653
What technique brought you the results you want, anon ? And what did you manifest if I may ask?
Getting a million in a week is only doable by a rothschild or Rockefeller family member desu. I'm curious to know your technique to manifest so quickly.
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>>39702653
Idk but I've had a big manifestation happen after several months (owning a house). It set off the course of events to acquiring it, which unironically houses don't just plop into your ownership, so as much as I believe in manifestation bring instant, I'm at least limited to "yes you still need to go through the brokers and title transfer". However, the process was so incredibly smooth and I didn't have to put in much effort during it. Literally closed and moved in, in under 2 weeks, which isn't normal.

So my opinion is that you shouldn't drop a larger manifestation. Smaller ones completely agree
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>>39702694
When you smoke meth it puts you into a trance and activates energies in your brain. I draw sigils using the Austin Osman Spare alphabet of desire method and then I take a hit of meth while focusing on this sigil and rocking my body back and forth, ramping up my adrenaline as I continue to smoke meth
I did one so that my neighbor would suck my penis, lo and behold she knocks on my door 4 hours into firing things up
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>>39702694
>What technique brought you the results you want, anon ? And what did you manifest if I may ask?
The same technique as any one else
and I've used it to manifest many different things. I've tried basically ever technique you've heard of. Like anyone, I've tried many things
Over time, you just build up a general ability, that will work with more or less whatever technique you use. Like learning an instrument. The first one is hard, the second one is much easier. And the third, fourth, and fifth instrument are really just a demonstration that you "are good with music" at that point. you're not really using new techniques, you're just channeling that musical creativity into different mediums. But you've learned the fundamentals, so you can play pretty much any instrument.
The technique doesn't really matter, as long as it WORKS
The point is that it gets easier, faster, more powerful over time. You can use pretty much any technique that you want. So just use whatever has worked for you in the past. Do it over and over, until it gets easier and faster.
>Getting a million in a week is only doable by a rothschild or Rockefeller family member desu.
You're right, and that probably wouldn't work. Which is why you'd start off by manifesting 20 bucks. Then 50. Then 100. Then a significant raise at work. Then moving to a new job, with a great 401k and retirement benefits. Then a promotion there as well. And work your way up, until manifesting an "extra 1000 bucks" is basically nothing to you.
In the beginning, you couldn't just manifest 1000 bucks could you? But now that kind of money is like nothing. it's like that.
Do what works, and do it over and over, until it becomes stronger.
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>>39702716
>Idk but I've had a big manifestation happen after several months (owning a house). It set off the course of events to acquiring it, which unironically houses don't just plop into your ownership, so as much as I believe in manifestation bring instant, I'm at least limited to "yes you still need to go through the brokers and title transfer". However, the process was so incredibly smooth and I didn't have to put in much effort during it. Literally closed and moved in, in under 2 weeks, which isn't normal.
>So my opinion is that you shouldn't drop a larger manifestation.
yeah I think stuff like that will probably need to "go through a process" which could take longer until it's finished
but there are other things which can happen right away very feasibly
Like I'm driving down the road and "I see a dog on the next street"
or I'm walking in the grocery store and "I see a certain type of person" and the next aisle I walk down, there's like 5 of them.
You can also do this to influence people. And that can happen right before your eyes, meaning instantly in real time. Not waiting five seconds to walk past the next aisle in the store.
I'm not sure why sometimes you can't just see it happen right away and it needs to be "revealed" to you. I guess otherwise it would need to teleport right in front of you and that's not "realistic". So it's behind a door. Or the next corner.
But with people, yeah it can happen instantly.
"That girl likes me". All of a sudden she smiles at me. Almost even before I'm done thinking the thought, even.
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>>39685096
Heta fickung Menoy
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How do you guys even "see" the things that you visualize during SATS? Do you see everything as if it were real life?
Even in the most simple situation I can imagine to make my desire happen there's hundreds of thousands of tiny little details that I don't think I'm capable of imagining while focusing on my desire.
For example, my most basic desire is getting a text from a random girl I like, so the scene I want to play out is something like getting on my phone and seeing her talk to me, right? But when I get in SATS and I try to see it I have to imagine where I am, how does the Ambien look, what can I see in front of the phone, my clothes, what folds there is on my clothes and I end up getting stressed out and out of the visualization
How do you guys do it?
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>>39702493
not forbidden, just prohibitively expensive
would you fly or ship random 4chinners to a far off shitty frozen wasteland for free just for the lulz?
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>>39704868
I would
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>>39705159
not with these fuel prices you wouldn't
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This is the most powerful thread going right now.

I am using http://youtu.be/ffNWoefuwPM
as guidance every night now.
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I know my sleep is coming now when my ears start a soft buzzing. Its a wonderful feeling.
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I've been meditating to supplement mental diet, be more aware, etc.
At first I got a bit more neurotic and negative which I hear is normal. I found a way to subdue the negative emotions but still having trouble creating positive ones associated with my desires. Or any at all really, at best I can get to neutral.

Anyone go through something similar ?
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When do I become a cute girl
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>>39695292
Worthless post
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>>39705906
depends, are you already a girl?
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>>39705962
>are you already a girl?
I want to be one
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>>39706154
too bad then
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>>39704395
bump question, am curious too
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>>39704395
I've never done SATs as visually as others so that outta the way first. The way I do it is I start by trying to see the main point of the scene first, then every time I repeat the scene I add a small detail and focus on that detail for 1-2 loops.

For example let's have a scene at work where you're accepting a promotion. The action is you're shaking your boss's hand. First just get an image of looking at your boss and shaking his hand. Then feel your hand gripping his hand. Now notice the eye contact and appreciative look on your boss's face. Now feel your shirt fabric on your arm. Now add a detail about what your boss is wearing and focus on that visual detail. If you believe your coworkers would be present then maybe you hear them clapping. I just cringed a little bit. Then maybe the scene is in the break room so you can smell coffee. Feel the temperature of the room.

In short, engage the senses. Don't forget to get drowsy before you try this because if you do it while awake you're not likely to get very far. Just remember, keep adding details and focus on the new detail. Your mind will fill in the gaps based on what you did before, on autopilot.
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>>39702721
interesting
I have likely manifested a repulsing meth wave so I am not able to get meth as I have in the past
Do you think coffee will work similarly?
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>>39690526
What do these numbers mean, 111, 222, etc...

Met a girl not long ago just the type I was praying (manifesting if you will) for, we had a fantastic connection in person but she doesn't live very close to me though we already have plans to meet in about 3 months.

I've been praying a lot lately for clarity and for everything to work out, and I've been seeing these numbers ALL the time, I've been seeing them even before I met her but with increased frequency after.

Some say this is telling me I'm on the right path and everything will turn out fine, is that accurate?
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Stop engaging with retards that don't want to test the law themselves
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>>39708193
>flat earth confirmed
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>>39708254
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Tell me the earth spins afterall and I will unite with her.
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>>39708274
>>39708193
>picrel
Like a clockwork
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>>39708193
For once we have a good thread, no tripfags or the "flying fairy vampire" faggots.

I suggested a "manifestation" general a while ago as opposed to /loa/ and the tripfags pushed back so I thought there would be no interest.
Guess that was the right thing to do all along.
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>>39708702
LOA: Civil War
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>>39708293
I'd like to make myself believe that planet earth spins slowly
It's hard to say that I'd rather stay awake when I'm asleep
because everything is never as it seems
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>>39707805
Great post
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KoToR2 is LoA. The character is a wound in the force where the universe bends to the will of him/her, not the other way around as everyone else is an expression/a pawn of The Force.
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>>39704395
>Do you see everything as if it were real life?
>Even in the most simple situation I can imagine to make my desire happen there's hundreds of thousands of tiny little details that I don't think I'm capable of imagining while focusing on my desire.
you will get better over time
Your imagination will become more vivid, more detailed, more alive, more life life
One trick you can use is to "zoom in".
I have no idea why, but it's easier to imagine a lot of detail on something if it's only a small area of vision. When you zoom out to see the whole thing, it's harder to imagine everything having detail
So perhaps try zooming in on just your phone. What would it look like? What would the text look like?
You can also zoom in on other things, one by one, if you want. But if you're trying to manifest a text message, then the phone would be the most important part
> what folds there is on my clothes and I end up getting stressed out and out of the visualization
>How do you guys do it?
In any case, you can manifest something even with blurry detail or little detail. As long as you are imagining it, it can happen. You can even manifest things using pure words, meaning a script. Where you just repeat a phrase or sentence.
Remember, the most important thing is the FEELING. Not your technique. Focus on how you would feel if you got the thing you want. And then get to a point where you feel it has "happened" or "I have made this happen in reality"
This is what distinguishes fantasizing about some scenario and making it actually happen with manifesting. You are fully intentionally trying to "make it happen" or "in real life" or "actually" or whatever.
You only need those 2 steps.
1: Feel the feeling.
2: Push it out into reality
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>>39705275
>This is the most powerful thread going right now.
>I am using http://youtu.be/ffNWoefuwPM [Embed]
>as guidance every night now.
thanks for posting that
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>>39705890
>I found a way to subdue the negative emotions but still having trouble creating positive ones associated with my desires. Or any at all really, at best I can get to neutral.
>Anyone go through something similar ?
wouldn't you be happy if you got your thing?
It doesn't make you happy, why would you want it?
If you are sure it would make you happy, and yet you don't really "Feel" anything when trying to manifest it, try to fully embrace that experience
maybe you're just not good at living in your own simulated experience. It can take some practice to fully embrace it, and act as if it were true, that it was really happening.
you will get better over time
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>>39708136
>What do these numbers mean, 111, 222, etc...
they will mean different things to different people
for most, it's just a generic sign that you are trying to manifest something. Meaning, you should keep going, because you are seeing "something".
For other people, they might pick up specific signs as having specific meanings.
Again, this will be unique to the person. and the signs they have built up over time
"A means 1, and B means 2. When C happens, I know it means X" And so on.
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Does the law of detachment work with LoA
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>>39685096
>attracting love
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>>39710075
>Does the law of detachment work with LoA
what is the law of detachment?
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I urge all of you not to ever lose your confidence in loa. you can completely forget about what you manifested, fine, but never lose your faith that it is true. You will fall down a cycle of despair; live in abundance.
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>>39710081
gannagas store grain in the granary
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>>39710314
and yet you life is still gay and nothing changed and youre still just some npc tard 2hgh
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>>39710314
Thanks Lori
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>>39710450
>nothing changed
nta, but my life has changed in incredible ways after I learned magic is real
My whole life is different. I do it all the time
I've recently been applying the everyone is you pushed out thing more. And I knew it was true before, that my inner state could manifest in other people
Now I'm a lot more tuned into it, and catching all the things I did subconscious before. It's kind of incredible
this would really could be a heaven if we would just let it.
and it can go the other way, if you are totally unaware of it, and manifesting your negativity.
"if we do not make the unconscious conscious, it will rule our lives and we will call it fate"
It's not fate. It's your subconscious fucking up your life. Figure that shit out and things go WAY better
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>>39710878
>My whole life is different
>>literally doesnt mention how in any way
yes sure thing retard
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>>39710891
>>My whole life is different
>>>literally doesnt mention how in any way
>yes sure thing retard
I'm sorry nigger, were you asking for my life story?
and now, for some strange reason, I feel absolutely no reason to share anything about my life to you. Gee, I wonder why that would be
You'll attract more flies with honey than vinegar "sweatie". Haha
Sweatie. I love that joke
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>39710891
This fagget suffers from some type of spastication
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>>39710910
>I feel absolutely no reason to share anything about my life to you.
I'm NTA, wanna share it to me?
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>>39710910
>>39712331
i wanna hear too. it makes me happy to see anons get success
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Sorry guys, no. You don't manifest everything in your life. Explain how a baby could manifest a terrible disability then. As this millionnaire chick explains it in the video below (and she's one of the best out there on the subject) we don't understand everything, we have to stay humble and know there is something else at work sometimes.

I was giving credit to lilanon when I arrived on this thread but I realise he is just spreading lies by saying you manifest everything (he is ready to look a woman in the eyes and tell her she manifested her being rape. Sick). I will stop reading his messages from now on, and I should have done it the day he claimed he was a vampire

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVzQp56KsXg
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>>39712497
there's no lilanon here fren, relax
but yeah to think anyone in these threads has it all figured out would be crazy, we're all still learning
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/loa/ tl;dr
For 3 minutes a day, for at least three weeks, and until you become bored of it, close your eyes, silence your inner monologue, and bask in the sensation that what you desire has come true. As you do this day after day, take the any opportunities to see to take your life in the desired direction.
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>>39712517
absolutely based and blessed.
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>>39712517
Beautiful
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>>39695365
Oh no!
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>>39706154
it's easier to get to grips with being a man
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>>39713461
Absolutely based and super blessed. Manifestly so.
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>>39713535
This is the greatest manifestation of all time. Now you can let go. Let go. Let go hard, truly blessed.
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>>39713461
I'm just going to give you some life advice. If someone doesn't want to be with you, then let them go. I know that's easier said than done but really, why would you want to be with someone who so obviously dislikes you? Move on, dude. You'll be so much happier.

From a LOA standpoint I would suggest you stay affirming things along the lines of
>I am happy and complete
>I am fulfilled
>life always works out for me

And start focusing on other things. Work, money, your health. Focus on YOU. When YOU are your top priority, and you fix YOURSELF, everything else falls into place and you won't even give a shit about this SP, and trust me that feeling of not caring is so much better than any kind of longing you're feeling now. It's like being liberated from the chains of caring.

Do yourself a favor and cut those chains. LOA yourself into a fabulous life instead.
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>>39713589
You have to let go.
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>>39713604
If none of this works then he's even more right. You can't get her, so letting go of her is the next best thing
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>>39713604
Did you even read the post? Telling the guy to stop begging for some girl and focus on his own happiness instead is what we should all be doing, LOA or not. I know Schlomo is paying you a shekel for every post but at least act like you read it before replying back with gibberish.
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>>39713461
Has NOBODY in this damn board even read Neville Goddard's books? What is this question?
Read the five lessons, for fuck's sake.
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>>39713751
Ive read them multiple times.
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>>39713765
If you are the person I quoted, you obviously haven't. I doubt you are capable of reading a full page of any book, or have ever done so outside school assignments.
What purpose do you think you're fulfilling by lying?
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>>39713797
Im not that guy but I dont see the issue asking for advice. Yes I have read all his books multiple times. I just don't worship him like you apparently do.
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>>39713751
probably not to be desu
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I started last year and while it helped me getting rid of my depression and suicidal thoughts. I still haven't manifested a great amount of money and still no whores to have sex with.
And I been doing SATS for that. For manifests like a specific brand of cookies or pay 0dlls for taxes I didn't use a "way" or a "technique" to manifest I just visualized with my eyes closed. I do the same for other things and I don't manifest them after ...
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>>39714253
>For manifests like a specific brand of cookies
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>>39712331
>I'm NTA, wanna share it to me?
>>39712493
>i wanna hear too. it makes me happy to see anons get success
I've shared it before and I'll share it again. It's not exactly a secret. you've probably already heard my story, or bits of it
I'll share it the next time it comes up, like I normally do
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>>39712497
>Explain how a baby could manifest a terrible disability then.
extend cognition before birth
Or maybe accept that reality isn't what you think it is. In other words, you misunderstand the situation
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>>39714253
>I do the same for other things and I don't manifest them after ...
well then you need to start from the basics
learn how manifest something, anything. Then do that again. Do it over and over, until it becomes easier. Then move on to more difficult things
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>>39685096
here's an idea
Would I rather live in hell, and have the luxury of being a critic?
Or would I rather live in heaven, but I have to take responsibility for everything
I think right now, I honestly would rather live with problems if I got to blame someone else for them
I believe this life is like a canvas and I am the painter. Or maybe it's a cup, and it accepts whatever I pour into it.
I'm not sure if everything works that way, but I know for sure at least some of it does
And I'm not sure I can accept that. Why couldn't I learn this sooner? It's not fair. So many problems could have been avoided if I knew I was manifesting them. And so many more good things could have happened if I learned magic sooner.
It's really not fair.
However, complaining about that won't change anything. If this is real, and I really do have the power I think I have, then I should use it.
If I don't use it, when I could, then I don't really want the problems to go away. I'd rather live in hell if it meant I could blame god for all my problems.
But in reality, I am god. I have the ability to change creation, with my mind. I just didn't know it.
And maybe other people are god too, and they can manifest things as well. I think that's true. But I definitely have a lot more power than I thought.
Life is a street we can walk on. We can run, or walk. Go fast or slow. We can run backwards if desired. And the street will accept all of that. It's just a medium
I don't think the universe is "unthinking and uncaring" any more. That's not what's going on. It's not that the universe doesn't care about you, and will manifest horrible things you don't want. It's a canvas. And you're painting on it using your subconscious.
So why not paint something beautiful?
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>>39714398
I'm a bum live in my parents house no money I don't leave my room i don't get any money at all so getting food I want is manifestation.
Tried to get a job but I think I manifested not getting employed again
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>>39685096
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lmr9geCD8_A
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Why would a god play a game where everyone has the same power? What's the point if everyone has LoA powers? If I can't control people what purpose does LoA serve? There's no point and you end up feeling like a small insignificant worm alone in the vast universe, the same as an atheist. On the other hand, if god made himself small to experience remembering that it's a lucid dream and everything is under his control, wouldn't that be more fun?
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>>39716805
>On the other hand, if god made himself small to experience remembering that it's a lucid dream and everything is under his control, wouldn't that be more fun?
I think that might be what's happening
As shocking as it might be, I really am starting to think that's what's up
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>>39716805
Here's the main problem with free will. If the least attractive person on the planet manifests a loving relationship with a GP, how is that going to be fulfilled? No one on earth would willingly be with them. Now make the scenario less extreme. An unattractive person manifests a GP, but the probability of success isn't in their favor because other people have free will. That means LoA doesn't work on any GP, period, except for people who would willingly be with them anyway. In other words, if people have free will, LoA can't be used to gain a relationship. The people who say go general, or manifest a GP instead of an SP, are missing the point. This presents further problems when you consider likeability instead of attractiveness. How does an unlikeable person receive any manifestation that represents an exchange of value? Could the most unlikeable person on the planet manifest a free car? Who would willingly give it to him? If he wins it in a contest, the prize can be revoked. If he inherits it, the judge can award it to the next of kin. Free will therefore invalidates all manifestations for a certain type of person. That person is likely to only have access to LoA on the level of "I want to see a red car." The car can be parked anywhere. No one has to go against their own will to fulfill it. Exchanges of value and relationships are different. Either it's all possible or none of it is. If LoA is real, then others don't have free will, and I just proved it.
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>>39716805
>What's the point if everyone has LoA powers?
Asking sincerely: Is there any evidence to support that everyone is capable of this? Sounds like you need powerful faculties of abstraction and imagination to do this and I see the quality of a fucking apple being use as a benchmark for mental imagery.
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>>39716895
no, you didn't prove it.
in the multiverse there are infinite amounts of entities and people, including those that are perfectly suited and compatible to the most degenerate of people.
free will doesn't need to be violated to enable a perfect GP.
it ALSO doesn't need to be violated to enable a SP, as when you manifest a SP you are manifesting your shift to a universe where you are on the path to being with them.
Despite the illusion of them being the same SP that you desire and wish to control, they are not, and free will is respected.

god i love paradoxes
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>>39716895
The point is said unattractive/unlikable person would either become more attractive/likeable or find someone who likes them or is attracted to them.
If LoA is real and you can manifest yourself to look like Chris Hemsworth, then most women would be attracted to you, and you haven't violated anyone's free will. Same can be said about a job or any concrete achievement.

I really don't see how your conclusion makes any sense.
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>>39716944
>free will doesn't need to be violated to enable a perfect GP
to expand on this, even though there is a finite amount of people in the world, you can't possibly know all of them, and this means that even if it 'seems' infinitely unlikely your perfect GP does exist here on this plant at this very moment
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>>39710200
Actually looked it up myself cause I heard something about it but didn't know what it was. Basically its letting go of the need to control the outcome or attachment to the desire. Think it was in a book by Deepak Chopra
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>>39712501
Thanks Fren

>>39715355
Yeah sure whatever
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>>39710910
Hi, when you say people are easy to manifest could you please give an example and tell how you did it ?
I watched a video of sammy ingram saying when she wants someone to cross the street she just affirms it in loop in her mind and they do it right away. Is that really this simple ?
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>>39716987
If there were only 10 people on earth would your opinion change? It has to work in all circumstances.
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>>39717388
circumstances would see the arrival of an eleventh or a change in heart/etc of one of the ten
there is no unresolvable paradox
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>>39717440
Exactly, my point is LoA can change specific people or how they behave towards you.
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>>39717448
but you're not changing a specific person, you're cloning them and changing the clone, a subtle but important difference
if we're talking about free will it *MUST* be completely rock solid with no loopholes, because if free will can be violated from any perspective at all...
yeah.
so im arguing semantics in a way but they're important
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i manifest and assume for u all to have a good year, take care every1
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>>39716895
There are infinite realities all running simultaneously. When you a manifest a gp you shift to the reality where the gp from that reality likes you of their own free will.

There I just demonstrated how loa and free will can be real. You're welcome
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>>39716895
>That means LoA doesn't work on any GP, period, except for people who would willingly be with them anyway. In other words, if people have free will, LoA can't be used to gain a relationship.
well that's where you're wrong
You can absolutely influence other people's minds.
How they act on that, is according to them. But you can make them feel a certain way, and alter their behavior. you can make them do things
Does this mean free will doesn't exist? I guess in the extreme case where you totally control someone and they only do what you want.
But it usually doesn't work that way. You are an influence.
You can do this without manifesting
Let's say you talk to a girl and you're nice. you smile, you flatter her, etc. She smiles back
Lets say with another girl, you're super mean, rude, aggressive, make fun of her and try to make her cry. She frowns at you.
Does that means she doesn't have free will? Because you were able to influence her? No. It just means you were an influence and she reacted accordingly
manifesting just means you do it in your mind, and she magically responds as if you really talked to her. Meaning you do it with the power of your mind, not the "normal" way.
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>>39716908
>Asking sincerely: Is there any evidence to support that everyone is capable of this?
as far as I know, everyone can do it intentionally assuming they are capable of thinking.
and everyone already is doing it subconsciously, even if they don't (or can't) sit down and use the mental discipline to imagine a scenario and exert their will to "push" it into reality.
>Sounds like you need powerful faculties of abstraction and imagination to do this and I see the quality of a fucking apple being use as a benchmark for mental imagery.
You don't need visual images. You can do it with scripts as well
In fact, some of the most powerful manifests I've ever done, I didn't visualize. I just wrote down what I wanted, and then repeated it. Perhaps because I didn't visualize it, it worked better because I wasn't deciding how it would be delivered. Just asking for the end state I wanted.
And then, in some way or another, it was delivered. Sometimes I got exactly what I wished for
hard to say what was the distinguishing factor in these cases
but yeah, you don't need to use visual images
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>>39716996
>Basically its letting go of the need to control the outcome or attachment to the desire. Think it was in a book by Deepak Chopra
yeah, that makes sense.
It's usually a good idea. Though sometimes you can manifest things you really do want, and keep focusing on that thing. Without putting it out of your mind or anything
I'm not entirely sure why it works both ways
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>>39717293
>Hi, when you say people are easy to manifest could you please give an example and tell how you did it ?
you can manifest "I see a bunch of tall people. Tall. Tall. Taller! Super tall giants!"
And then you see a bunch of tall people
then "I see short people. Man, they are so short. Just like way short. So short! Mega short!"
then you see a bunch of short people
Then you can do personality traits. "that person is so funny"
"that person is really nice to me"
"people give me a lot of respect"
"women are very attracted to me"
"people just leave me alone today. They respect my bubble and I just go about my way"
and so on and so on
>I watched a video of sammy ingram saying when she wants someone to cross the street she just affirms it in loop in her mind and they do it right away. Is that really this simple ?
So that's influencing someone who is already appeared in your life, in real time while they are in line sight. Not trying to make a certain type of person appear ahead of time.
And yes, you can do that too. And it can have instant results, which is really crazy when it happens that way sometimes
Other times, it's just "normal". I think "of course I can just make people do things, and then they do it"
depends on the case I guess.
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>>39717440
>circumstances would see the arrival of an eleventh or a change in heart/etc of one of the ten
>there is no unresolvable paradox
exactly
suddenly you'd discover "a whole new tribe" of like 20 more people. That wasn't even there, before you dreamt it up.
The world would expand to accommodate your desire.
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>>39717581
>i manifest and assume for u all to have a good year, take care every1
thanks!
and you too
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You need to set yourself free from bondage to what you want.
This is what i've learned about letting go.

Evaluate your desires for a minute. The million dollars, that girl, the body weight, the job. Remember that they mean nothing to someone else.
The girl you like is probably super uggs to any other man, your million dollars won't even make a dent in someone else's account, someone else thinks that job you're dying for is comical to even think about aspiring towards. We get an example of this on the boards all the time, anons laughing at other peoples' manifestations as paltry and cheap.
Everything you're holding as a sacrosanct source of fulfilment right now is flawed, because this is a world of flawed, imperfect existence, Your dream car could kill you in a road accident easier than the buick you have right now, your dream home will require just as much maintenance and upkeep as a cheap apartment, if not more.
But we want these things still - not for what they are, but for what we feel upon having them. That's the key. Forget everything else - the actual KEY to understanding your physical relation to desire is remembering that YOU are the reason the desire has any positivity associated with it. The desire itself is just a vehicle that delivers you the feelings you wish to experience.
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>>39718225
Now this is what the source material is trying to teach you - the moment you let go of your requirement for THESE particular things to let you feel those feelings of satisfaction, bliss, fulfilment, joy, pleasure -- erase the middle-man -- you've understood the meaning of being the Operant Power. It doesn't have to mean being the sole creator of everything in this universe if you don't agree with that understanding (screw lilanon), but it DOES mean that because you are the Experiencer of the experiences you desire, you are more important than any of them.

This is where you start practicing experiencing these desires without the desires manifesting in the physical world. Put on a song that makes you feel like you're in a top-down car barrelling down a sunlit highway surrounded by wildflowers on both sides, close your eyes and feel yourself in it, see the flowers whizzing past, feel the wheel in your hands, the pedals under your feet. You don't need to ever care if you have that car again., you've already sat and driven in it.
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>>39718225
>>39718230

Where the imaginary acts become solidified in your 3d, is your conscious belief, sans desperate desire, that you are seeing these things because they belong in your life. You are consciously selecting the experiences you want, and pulling them into your life, by the magnetizing force of your joy.

Step 1 - being truly, deeply happy in the imaginary experience, letting it fulfil you as much as the physical experience could.
Step 2 - realizing that Step 1 has freed you from being under the thumb of said desire, reversed the dynamic, and put YOU in the power, being the 'experiencer' of this thing and thereby giving it meaning and purpose.
Step 3 - recognizing said desire/imaginal act as an experience you are selecting for your future, because like attracts like, as above so below, insert any number of spiritual laws here, whatever helps you truly accept this fact -- but really recognizing it in order to let your physical reality reflect your possession of your desire.

The moment you shift the power dynamic with your desire, is the moment you free yourself from a desperation to experience it, and BECOME the power that a simple 3D object has no hold over. You are the reason your desire even exists. The fulfilment of being experienced trumps the fulfilment of experiencing, and therefore YOU are what's always important in any equation.

Bless you anons. I know WAGMI.
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Just wanted to contribute since this is the best thread we've had in a while, and also because I myself have had the most struggles with the letting go bit of manifestation. Hope it helps any of you too.
Have a good day.
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>>39718233
>The moment you shift the power dynamic with your desire, is the moment you free yourself from a desperation to experience it, and BECOME the power that a simple 3D object has no hold over. You are the reason your desire even exists. The fulfilment of being experienced trumps the fulfilment of experiencing, and therefore YOU are what's always important in any equation.
I think this is the secret to manifesting things you actually want
because you can activate the cheat code of "not really caring any more" and then forgetting about it, then you get it. but you hardly even care and you weren't really trying anyway. So that kind of sucks
Why can't yo manifest something you really want? That's the problem right?
well using this technique, you can
And the reason why you aren't "lusting after result" or dwelling in desperation or desire, is because you truly already have it. And all that entails and all the issues and hangups you might have with you're already dealt with because you've been living in the end for months and dealt with it all
So when it finally happens in real life, it will be like "Oh. Yeah, that's natural. I guess it finally decided to happen now".
So in a way, you will be expecting, because it's already here. But also, you won't be desperately hoping it will arrive, but you already have it.
but you also "won't care" any more, because you already have it and it's sort of old hat. But you get to enjoy it still, because you get to have it and enjoy it fully.
So this is kind of like the best of both worlds. Or like a smart way of doing it
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>>39718460
>And all that entails and all the issues and hangups you might have with you're already dealt with because you've been living in the end for months and dealt with it all
to be clear, this means you have overcome the resistance with your manifest. Because you've been living with all that for a while. So at that point, you've fully accepted it as "normal" and just a normal part of your life
So this technique also overcomes resistance.
It's really quite good I think
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>>39718469
>So at that point, you've fully accepted it as "normal"

That's the crux of it. The desire isn't special, you are. The desire just comes to you because you're the one who wants it.
Viewing myself as the person who deserves all the good in the world galvanizes the good in the world to come to me. Because it's normal and logical that it would, since I'm so deserving.
You get it - bless you anon, I wish you speedy successes and much basking in the pleasure of your imagination.
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>>39718514
>You get it - bless you anon, I wish you speedy successes and much basking in the pleasure of your imagination.
thank you, and you too
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>go out for drinks with people including sp
>she shows me pics of her ex at one point
>can't remember the context anymore because i was drunk
I'm too old for this kiddie highschool shit-test shit.
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>>39712497
she farts at 1:45 btw
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>>39718258
Amazing post friend, hagve a nice day
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>>39718258
It’s definitely the best one, it’s amazing what happens when the hideous trip personalities throw a fit and make their own thread to contain their evil.
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>>39719220
I will make another thread with a simpsons pic when this exceeds 350 posts. It's really comfy here.
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>>39719250
i checked the other thread and it's actually the same dumpster fire it has been lmao
they can have it

>>39719280
please do, thanks anon
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If you have an alternative forum or channel to continue without trips do share it. I can't imagine this alt thread will last, nor does it need to be so constantly available. Filtering trips doesn't work as they also create non-trip personas to mentor and congratulate. Other people reply to them too much. I'm enjoying this thread because I spent time with logic to try to make sense of SP manifestations. I don't know if I'm accurate, but the multiverse theory isn't changing my conclusion. You can have what you want even if she doesn't know it yet.
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>>39719017
Ask her about it sober
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My main issue is constant self doubts and living in closed loop of conciseness. No matter if I want to do anything I still stay where I were before without actually moving anywhere.
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I know that it's mine. I even know how it becomes mine. I accept this, I believe that it's mine.
But I don't FEEL IT in my bones just yet. It's belief yes but not yet conviction. How do I break through this last barrier?
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>>39719756
I can try to help, why do specifically think it's not yours?
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>>39719788
I don't even think. It's just some sort of rollback when head goes empty and belief dissipates and self doubts start whispering again.
As if something tries to push me back in place.
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Highly suspecting that I might have some sort of curse on me. Possibly generational and I inherited it or maybe it's not but life is clearly not going right and it didn't went right for the family either.
How to check and make sure?
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>>39719809
try this on for size -- it's likely that you're just a lot more used to thinking negatively, than in your favor.
an effective trick i have against doubt-filled thoughts is "huh, it's so good that doesn't apply to me anymore. it's just the old story, just funny to remember, but ultimately powerless"
the "state" you predominantly dwell in becomes your nature over time.
give it time, i think you're on the right track, just don't let yourself get discouraged by the old story
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>>39719826
you don't really need to check if there's a curse in place. if there IS one, you're fuelling it significantly by being afraid of what it's doing to you and your family. if there isn't, your fear is likely still creating shitty circumstances for you.
based on your belief, prayer or spells will protect you - i used to be that person, and lemon + salt, eye of newt, burning candles, elemental protection etc actually worked quite well.
until i recognized that i don't need any protection other than the one i can offer myself.
now i just say - and you REALLY need to believe it, without a shred of fear of any blood magic anyone could do against you - "i am forever divinely protected, my loved ones are under my direct protection. nothing can harm us and nothing can even appear to go wrong for us unless it's actually benefitting us"

it works far, far better than any lemon i've ever used
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>>39719826
also saying that in general, life not going right is the belief you really wanna work on.
you've been put on this planet to discover your power of creation and use it to make the best possible life for yourself, or at least the one you want the most
better start thinking and acting like it, or curses will keep running your life
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>>39718258
Comfy post and pictures, thanks for sharing
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>>39719280
I'm wondering if it's a good idea to have this alternative thread, maybe once a week or so. I'd come to /x/ just for that.
Doesn't have to be called /LOA/ specifically, just something to distinguish from the other one
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>>39718233
>Step 1 - being truly, deeply happy in the imaginary experience, letting it fulfil you as much as the physical experience could.
Any advice on that?
I meditate on what it would be like to have my desire, I even have vivid dreams where it truly feels real, but then just wake up in despair that it wasn't real.
I know logically what you're saying is true, but I can't truly get to the point where I'm happy with imagining it as I would be if I had it in 3D.
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>>39719975
Doesn't work for me since I start seeing it in third person. So instead I just teleport my current self into the future. It's still me, still insecure and doubtful, not yet happy and probably worried but it already happened I already got it so might as well just accept it and start adjusting to new reality.
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Any Anon wants to share success stories?
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>>39719975
The other two steps should help you with it.
I think sometimes we put too much emphasis on having a thing, and forget the experience that we are truly looking to fulfil with it. Any object in your physical reality has a particular use, outside of that use it's pretty much pointless. Picture the most beautiful house you can, and then think of all the ways it changes if no one lived there - decrepit, rundown, crack house, squatter den, liability, it just takes up space. Think about all the people who manifest a lottery win and then die pretty soon after, unable to ever use the money they dreamed of. A sexy car just collects dust without you driving and experiencing it.
All this to say that nothing that you desire is worth more than its use of being experienced. It's the same for people, though I wouldn't reduce them to objects. But the fact is that if it's a person you desire, you desire them FOR companionship, sex, or anything else you may want to experience, and without your desire to experience it through them, they become just a regular person you may not look twice at. BECAUSE a thing is special to you only because you desire it, it cannot be more special outside of the way that you experience said desire. Read that again.

>You are the reason your desire even exists. The fulfilment of being experienced trumps the fulfilment of experiencing, and therefore YOU are what's always important in any equation.
Really get comfortable with accepting this.

What may also help you, is looking at yourself as a deserving, magnetic person independent of your desires. You really have to find the Operant Power-ness and embody it fully, so that anything good happens is taken as you deserving it, and anything perceptibly negative is seen as either harmless or ultimately beneficial. All because you're so powerful and deserving that the good in the world moves for you, and your desires become the ones chasing you.

What are you manifesting currently, may I ask?
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>>39719985
You mean you visualize yourself in the future, still as you are (IE insecure and unhappy) but having attained your desire?

>>39720054
Thanks for the long writeup.
>BECAUSE a thing is special to you only because you desire it, it cannot be more special outside of the way that you experience said desire.
That's an interesting way to put it, I never thought of it like that but it makes sense. I'll need to meditate on it to fully accept that concept, but it makes sense logically.

The part about looking at yourself as deserving, etc is actually something I'm working on. I saw a post some time ago suggesting people work on getting self esteem/confidence as their first manifestation, so I'm working on that. Through lots of meditation I realized I have some sort of self hatred or martys complex where I feel I am 'below' everyone and deserve to suffer. So currently I'm trying to become easily confident, deserving, not self hating and always have this effortless 'flow' through life.

But my true ultimate desire, and the manifestation I had in mind when I asked, is basically related to women. At first I tried several SPs, that didn't work so I went on to GP, didn't work so I tried just manifesting becoming very attractive, more opportunities to talk to women I like, more interest from women I could be interested in. I can't say that any of that happened. It's the only reason I even turned to LoA, my life is pretty decent outside of that.
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>>39720187
>You mean you visualize yourself in the future, still as you are (IE insecure and unhappy) but having attained your desire?
Yes. When I try to force happiness onto myself it feels fake and automatically transition imagination into third person and fantasy. So this is my workaround, I just get what I want first and then adjust to the feeling of having it.

In fact this is also organic thing for me since when it comes to money and being rich specifically this happy go lucky attitude is not my desired state of mind. I have way too many things I want to do and get with money so it's not the time to be happy it's time to move those buns. Money is only the start of the journey and I desperately want to just fucking start doing something and moving instead of rotting away.
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>>39720187
The self-deprecation seems to have put you down with a major block around woman. But I love that you say your life otherwise is pretty good. How about you use that? You have good things, so clearly you can manifest a fair bit of good for yourself, and it's come to you because you deserve it. If you have good money, you clearly feel like you deserve good money, if you have good friends, a good living situation, clearly you believe you deserve those things.
Just work on seeing women as no different from that. A person as good as you absolutely deserves the good in life, deserves good treatment by people, and deserves to experience the love you desire.
Forget the attention from the woman, I'd suggest, and focus on becoming (and feeling like) the most magnetic version of you. I bet you already have some pretty great things going for you. Focus on that, and manifest any other part of you that you want, the way you want to see it. Believe in yourself, believe in your creative power, and the waves you create will pull in the people you want to see in your life.

Bless you, anon, I love that you're focused on yourself and want to change your life for the better. That mindset cannot, cannot, cannot fail.
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I went from believing mental diet is irrelevant to discovering it is arguably the most important part of the Law. Your job as your conscious mind is to prevent negative impressions upon your subconscious and to encourage positive impressions, if you neglect this duty there are physical consequences. Your conscious mind might have no visceral negative reaction to thought or stimuli but your subconscious does. I found that if I consumed negative material regularly (ragebait, fake news, eceleb drama, etc...) I would become physically ill despite my conscious mind having no problem with the material.

Your subconscious is like an entirely different person inside of you, controlling your innermost thoughts, feelings and desires. You have to take care of it, you are NOT immune to psychic abuse and manipulation, your ego might believe so, but it is wrong. Sorry, but you aren't capable of resisting the influence of psychic terrorism, your subconscious is harmed by it always. It is like a separate being inside of you that rules the vast majority of your life, your conscious mind is smaller and stupider than it.
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You think you don't deserve things.
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I casted magical whoooosh under my feet but it missed and now you suddenly got things by mistake.
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You human brain smelled abundance and quickly rationalized that you ACTUALLY in fact deserved all of this.

Simple really.
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>>39720312
thank
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>>39719826
In any case, the solution is the same. Identify negative subconscious beliefs, replace with neutral or positive ones. It's all perspective. Subliminals work very well for this, just get drowsy first for a 10x effectiveness boost.
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>>39720225
That makes sense, I also feel ridiculous and 'fake' when I try to imagine myself happy with the things I want.

>>39720267
Yeah most of my negative emotions and experiences, but also ironically, deepest desires, are related to women.
The thing with those other things I have is that I never *really* cared about them, and I know we manifest everything but I never tried to manifest them consciously. I just did mundane things and achieved them like that, which of course didn't work to get women. I'd trade it all to sleep on an air mattress in a shitty studio with the perfect woman.

>Forget the attention from the woman, I'd suggest, and focus on becoming (and feeling like) the most magnetic version of you.
That's good advice, thank you. I can accept that more easily than the attention. I can even accept still being miserable but being magnetic, like I was saying in the reply to the other post.

Thank you for taking the time to engage with me anons. Alot to think about and put into practice. I'm looking forward to the day when we can all post our success stories and laugh at the struggles of our past selves.
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I am filled to the brim with (ir)rational hate towards people around me. I see them as demons and the worst of our species. I dehumanize them I will not care in the slightest if most of them(those that I dislike)die.
Changing place is not yet an option, I do want to manifest moving out of here and taking my family with me somewhere away. And simply not thinking about it is also not an option. So is there a way to vent it out somehow in non-destructive way?
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>>39720054
Nta but great advice. I'm going to use this. Thanks for these posts. This is the kind of stuff that keeps me coming back to these threads.

>>39718258
Great stuff, thanks

This thread is awesome

>>39719986
I've had several in career (got back into a career i had been away from for 15 years) and SP (the SP ended up being total looney toons, but my manifestations DID work down to tiny details which was wild). I posted with pics of balloons to keep track of my posts and others called me Balloonanon kek.

Here's a new one I've recently figured out... instead of manifesting for specific physical things like particular weight, height, etc (which DOES work but slowly for me), I've found it quicker and more effective to just affirm / visualize / feel that
>I love my body, I'm comfortable and confident in my body
Nothing specific about your body itself but more about how you feel about it. This will give you the physical details you desire and also give you the confidence that is so attractive to others.

>>39720187
Related. Self-confidence really is key. Feel good about yourself and everything else falls into place. I posted this >>39713580 for another anon, it might help you too. For example, the SP I mentioned above - my manifestations worked perfectly but it all ended up being a shitshow and I really think it's because I still had work to do about myself, so I attracted someone who was on their worst behavior. I realized I needed to take a step back and work on myself before I do any more SP work.

>>39720301
Based

>>39719918
Best thread we've had in months. Maybe it can just be a /Man/ manifesting general or something.
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I think I'm onto something here.
Imagine the world but all people suddenly vanished. In this new world, what stops you from simply getting most of the thing you ever wanted? You wanted money well who is stopping you from going around shops, houses, banks and just grabbing any money you see? You wanted to own a great house? Who stops you from moving into the best most expensive house you can find? Who can stop you from going literally anywhere you want, including secret military objects or private property? No one is there to stop you anymore and world itself doesn't care where you go and what you do. In fact world is much more likely to respond to any wish you might have now.
So the world itself the universe is not greedy nor is it inherently bad. Even force of nature like volcanoes and hurricanes and tsunamis they are only bad for you when they are near your property or threatening your life. But if you simply observe them from far away without threat of losing anything they are magnificent and awe inspiring and you will feel inspired and insignificant.
World is pretty much never on the way of your wishes, universe is almost completely neutral. Other people are, almost always they are the obstacles on your way. They are the one limiting your potential and poisoning your mind.
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>>39720301
Thanks for this. The implications are staggering and explain much of my issues. The more rational a person is, the likelier they are to engage with this material and get their subconscious wrecked from it. I'll have to develop strategies to avoid negative content. Probably I'll end up becoming addicted to various positive channels.
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>>39719017
>I'm too old for this kiddie highschool shit-test shit.
women do that when they are interested in you, but they don't know for SURE that you're the man they want.
They think you might be the guy.
So in a way, it's a good sign. Because women never do that to men have zero interest in. But they also don't really do that (or only do it minimally) to men they really like.
I would take this as a good sign. What you need to do is boost her attraction to you even more. Then she'll stop doing that, once she has "proven" in her mind that you're "the guy". And then you won't need to pass her tests and more, and she'll open up to you.
So to overcome this, manifest the following script. "She believes in me. She admires me. She respects me. She understands exactly who I am and where I stand, what I stand for, and she respects that. She is attracted to me, and really likes the kind of person I am."
And then some more generic attraction stuff:
"She's planning ways to bump into me "accidentally on purpose" and try and turn it into a date. She wants me to ask her out. She fantasizes about me"
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>>39719746
>My main issue is constant self doubts and living in closed loop of conciseness. No matter if I want to do anything I still stay where I were before without actually moving anywhere.
The first question I would ask you is "Do you want to be happy?"
And really think about it. Do you?
Who would choose unhappiness over happiness? If you really could just make that choice, if you could just choose between the two, and you could just be happy, would you?
If not, you are depressed. It is insane to actually WANT to be unhappy. That is a mental illness
Once you recognize that, then you can realize that your thoughts are not your own. That's not the real you. That's just the mental illness talking. Of course you want to be happy. Those depressed thoughts aren't the real you, you are someone who wants joy.
And then that will lead you on a journey of self discovery.
The only thing you need to tell yourself is "I want to be happy" or "I choose happiness"
If this is your stumbling block, then it could be a struggle to overcome, but your life will be so much better when you do.
Remember, you're the only one holding yourself back. So to fix that problem, you have to change. Look within yourself. WHY would you choose to be unhappy? That's crazy right? Who would ever want unhappiness.
Yes, indeed, that is crazy. Literally. So then you figure that out, and move on from there.
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>>39719840
>the "state" you predominantly dwell in becomes your nature over time.
>give it time, i think you're on the right track, just don't let yourself get discouraged by the old story
>by the old story
Exactly. 100 percent man. nta, but I'm struggling with something similar, and that's exactly what it is
Thanks for posting this
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>>39719826
>Highly suspecting that I might have some sort of curse on me. Possibly generational and I inherited it or maybe it's not but life is clearly not going right and it didn't went right for the family either.
>How to check and make sure?
it can only affect you long term, if you have somehow accepted it or "allowed" it in
In other words, other people can try to curse you. But it won't work, or at least it will only work for a day or two, unless it somehow fits the right "key" to unlock the right "lock" within you, to fuck you up and magnify your weaknesses, hangups, complexes, etc
Like for example, if I tried to give someone intrusive thoughts about, let's say, being an alcoholic failure. Well let's say they greatly struggle with this. It might really get inside and make them feel bad, and doubt themselves
But let's say I try to do that to someone who is a teetotaler who never drinks. He might have a weird "random thought" (it isn't random, it's the curse I put on him) about being an alcoholic failure, and he'll just be puzzled, think it's some weird ass thought, ignore it, and move on with his life. It won't affect him at all

So it only works on you (and lasts long term), if it targets your weaknesses. In other words, if it doesn't target your weaknesses, it might make you feel bad or weird for a day or two, then go away.
In other words, what the other anon said is correct.
>In any case, the solution is the same. Identify negative subconscious beliefs, replace with neutral or positive ones.
Whether it's your own bull shit, or an external negative influence (like a curse, or negative energy or whatever), the solution is the same. Look within yourself, and remove your negative complex shit. Where you get all weird about something, think too much about it, and get twisted about it in your head.
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>>39719862
great advice, and this is how it works
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>>39719975
>but then just wake up in despair that it wasn't real.
of course it isn't real yet, that's why you're trying to manifest it
When you are trying to manifest it, you are fully living in that moment that it is real and you are happy.
You have to let go of this despair. When you dwell on that, you are give fuel to the thought that "you don't have it, and you feel bad about not having it"
This is a basic thing, and yeah, it can be difficult to learn especially if you're frustrated and feeling bad about it. But once you do, you'll manifest things a lot easier
Never, ever dwell on not having the thing you want.
If you need to do revision, do it. If you need to fully live in the end, then do it.
Every time you think "I don't have this and I feel bad now", STOP. Go back and imagine yourself FULLY having the thing. You have it. It is already here. You ARE that thing. You ARE that person who is happy and successful and has that thing.
It is normal and natural that you have it. Of course you do. You have always had it. You can't even imagine a time when you didn't. Or maybe you can, but it's so distant in the past that you hardly ever think about it now.

This is a basic/foundational mistake you're making. And it sucks, I get it, I really do. Once you figure it out, you'll be much better off.
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>>39720920
>Who can stop you from going literally anywhere you want, including secret military objects or private property?
based
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You hate to hear it, but action towards the desire is necessary
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>>39722555
not always
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>>39718178
>because I wasn't deciding how it would be delivered. Just asking for the end state I wanted.
This is risky. Some people ask for money and their loved one ends up being killed so they can inherit from them.
Always be precise in your wish.
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>>39718197
Thanks anon
Frankly I tried this from time to time in the mall with people in front of me, imagining them telling me nice things out of the blue and it never worked. But I guess it was too high of a goal, i should start with something simpler, and not instant. Like as you said, manifesting tall or short people in the coming days.
I don't really see how you could make someone make something particular right in front of you though, this stuff would be used by men in parties to get laid if it was so easy :)
Manipulating people with your mind doesn't seem as simple as you all seem to say. Even the elite need to do shenanigans to make populations believe something (for example they use lies or fake studies to make us believe vax are safe and effective), why don't they just do it with their mind instead of deploying all these techniques (which didnt work on a big part of people btw).
Thanks for the heads up I will continue experimenting.
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>>39722555
Depends on what it is and how you are manifesting it.
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>>39722555
>You hate to hear it, but action towards the desire is necessary
No, you can just make things happen with your mind
I think a combination of both is useful. But you really can just make things happen, without you doing any physical action to make it happen.
Call it a coincidence if you want, but that's how it works.
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>>39722826
>Frankly I tried this from time to time in the mall with people in front of me, imagining them telling me nice things out of the blue and it never worked. But I guess it was too high of a goal, i should start with something simpler, and not instant. Like as you said, manifesting tall or short people in the coming days.
yeah. Always go with results. At least in my mind
Go to whatever you can DO. Then do that, over and over again. Then do more
trying something over and over and it not working is frustrating. It's better to go to what you can do, then you feel like a winner. You can build up to more and more
And when it doesn't work, you have experience, you can trouble shoot. You can figure out why it doesn't work. Instead of just sitting there wondering why it didn't work and not knowing why because you have no experience in that area
Now if you can just skip straight to manifesting what you want, do that. No reason to waste time on little stuff if you can already do big stuff. But you should always try to do more. Make it faster, easier, bigger, more important, more convenient, etc etc
Whenever you run into a road block, it is always caused by a block in my opinion. And the solution is inner work.
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>>39722826
>I don't really see how you could make someone make something particular right in front of you though, this stuff would be used by men in parties to get laid if it was so easy :)
I can do it, and it happens right in front of my eyes
Yes, it is that easy.
"That girl likes me". Then she smiles at me and starts flirting with me
>Manipulating people with your mind doesn't seem as simple as you all seem to say. Even the elite need to do shenanigans to make populations believe something (for example they use lies or fake studies to make us believe vax are safe and effective)
No, it really is that easy. But maybe to do it to entire populations instead of one person, it's harder
And in order to combat and win against every other group who is trying to control or influence society, they need to do more than just hope or wish it will happen.
Or you could say, out of all the groups who have gained the most control and influence, of course they would have the mainstream media under their control too
But maybe they wouldn't need it if they "truly" had control and could just control everyone with their mind and not even need the media? It's a good question
food for thought for sure
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>>39722984
>Whenever you run into a road block, it is always caused by a block in my opinion. And the solution is inner work.
sorry, this wasn't clear
Whenever you run into difficulties in manifesting something, it is caused by a mental block. Meaning you are getting in your own way somehow. Something within you is resisting this new change. So the solution to that problem is inner work
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>>39685940
well, thank you. i achieved my life's dream, though I wouldn't ascribe it to the Law of Attraction but to the blessing and merciful abundance God allows. now i set higher goals and aim to become a better person
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regular reminder to my frens to keep things simple. trust and patience are just as important as desire and imagination. believing it's being taken care of right now, in this moment, can be transformative. https://www.unityvillagechapel.org/uploads/1/0/3/5/10350251/golden_key_essay.pdf
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>>39723287
Good bit of info even if you're not religious. It's helpful to take your mind off your desire if it is causing you worry and trust that it will be taken care of



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