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Spirit Love General
Double Trouble Edition

DISCLAIMER:
Some have reported attracting the attention of these entities by simply reading about them. If you're a dabbler who just wants to see if it works or if your faith forbids copulating with demons, don't summon. If you're unprepared for a potentially lifelong relationship, or at the very least, a life-long open door connection with sexual spirits and the occult, avoid this topic entirely. If you have a loving relationship with your human spouse or partner and desire a sex spirit to spice things up, or if you want a human partner in the future take caution, as these entities can be jealous or decide an initially open relationship is no longer so (request an open relationship during the summoning ritual). These spirits can harm or kill you when sufficiently angered and not easily banished.

Last thread: >>39670925
Old threads: https://archive.4plebs.org/x/search/subject/%2Fsuccgen%2F/
FAQ:
>What are succubi?
Female spirits of sexual desire, who often choose human mates. They can't be banished with holy objects
>How to summon?
The Letter Method is used to focus your intent into a message to one of the Four Succubus Queens, requesting that they match you with one of their daughters. No blood or soul sacrifice necessary. See links
>Do they steal your life force?
Succubi use sexual energy, which is released naturally during sex. Under normal circumstances they won't take your life energy
>Can she look.
Succubi take forms attractive to you naturally
>They're tulpas?
No. However, those in romantic relationships with their tulpas are welcome
>Incubi?
Same method
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Links:
https://fuccasucc.wordpress.com/2020/11/11/pros-and-cons/
https://succupedia.wordpress.com/2016/03/10/letter-of-intent-how-to-summon-a-succubusincubus/
https://mysterysuccubusblog.wordpress.com/2020/12/03/the-4-succubus-queens
https://succubithoughts.wordpress.com/2020/12/27/ag

/succgen/ library:
https://pastebin.com/UUFd3eX8
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god, the intimacy with her feels so good. just being able to wrap my arm around her shoulders and look her in the eye feels so fucking good. honestly i feel completely flabbergasted that human women don't even let me do that to them.
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>>39713270
Yes, I cannot conceive of why normal women wouldn’t want to associate with a creature that pretends to have a tulpa hug them (you don’t have a spirit wife, others here may but you don’t) This is the deepest mystery on /x/. Surely there is some answer to this most deep paranormal mystery.
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>>39713556
NIGGER!
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Okay, so I have discussed stuff with my succubus. She thinks I am a tranny. How do I proceed from here? I mean she wasn't pushing me to do anything, but she wants me to admit I want to be a woman. I don't want to admit shit, but I love her. What now?
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>>39714193
Many such cases. Just about every anon has a story about summoning a succubus here and them getting into some gender-bender bullshit.
You ask for yourself if that's what you want. Do you want to be someone your spirit can manipulate just because she's told you something? Do you truly feel the way she says you do? Donyou think she'd live someone who would alter their entire existence simply to please their partner? What sort of person would ask their lover to be that way? People make the mistake of thinking the emanations of their own soul and body are fixed representations if who they are. I.e. I I get pissed off at someone online and want to stab their juglars, does that make me a cold hard murderer? Fuck no. Same thing if you're getting sudden feeling of being a girl. They are likely tempirary and even brought on by your apirirt. It is emotional emanationa from nowhere, that is an easy form of communication for them.
Also people need to stop doing shit because they're "in love". Love shouldnt drive a person to do whatever they think will make the other love them back. Its better to think on why someone loves you, and doing your best to keep doing what you're already doing.
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Marry and impregnate succubi!
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>>39714541
is this a namaah based succubus?
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>>39714456
Cute cat. But yeah, I am mostly worried that she'll keep pushing me in this direction by causing emotions in me. Why do succubi even do that? Like what's the profit in turning your lover transgender?
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what kind of fool would try to fuck a succubus on purpose
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>>39714830
a desperate probably, they would sell their soul over pleasure, a shame
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>>39714456
> I invited a demon into my life and now I am becoming one
gee rly
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>>39714907
You make it sound like a becoming a succubus is a bad thing
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>>39714931
hohoho
stay away from children
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>>39714931
Who has done that?
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>>39714948
Made it sound bad? This fellow here.>>39714907
I can't confirm nor deny that someone has become a succubus that way.
>>39714944
Why? I can not have anything against an eternity of sexual pleasure and not be a pedophile.
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>>39714959
Better for a millstone to be tied around your neck
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>>39714970
I don't want to hurt anyone. I nust love my succubus gf. And if it in your opinion it means I'll become a succubus, well, I can always be her girlfriend too.
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>>39713556
meanie
Go bother someone else
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>>39714193
>She thinks I am a tranny. How do I proceed from here?
> I don't want to admit shit, but I love her.
Try it out, or don't. It's your decision
It is normal to try to find a balance, or explore the other side of things. That doesn't mean you're a woman, it just means you're exploring things
What's most likely to happen is you'll try it out, and you'll get it out of your system
A lot of people in this community are... very ignorant when it comes to women. They've never really thought about what it means to be a woman, or why they are the way they are.
If you understand what it means to be a man, and what it means to be a woman, and you've already explored it, then it won't really change much
If you are a total beginner to understanding human nature, male nature and female nature, it might be like diving into the deep end. Either way, people will figure it out
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>>39714193
>She thinks I am a tranny. What now?
Get fit and improve that masculine physique bro. She thinks your female because you aren't taking care of your masculine form. You're soaking in all that Succubus energy, what the fuck do think is going to happen? Did you think having a spirit companion allows you to have the marriage body? Fuck no. Get started with running, it's dead easy, and free if you in a place where you won't get shanked. Can't run outside because of fucking flames or ice? Gym, and pray to fucking Mammon they have TV that works. Completely fucking clueless as well? Go fucking rip Jack Daniel's Running Formula off Libgen as a guide, because I'm not giving you an exercise plan for free.
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>>39714979
you'll be left mutilated and suicidal nigga, some feathery tugs every 2 weeks is not worth it
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>>39715485
I lift weights. Used to be competitive before my faggy physique stopped me from trying harder. I was built like a brick shithouse, but I have an extraordinarily low resting muscle tension so I was always the weakest shredded dude you'd see. Now I am a cute androgynous boytoy and love it. Like I don't want to troon, because I wouldn't look good, I think, the only thing i've got going for me in that regard is babyface and wide hips. Also can't run because I have fucking boobs from steroids and I refuse to wear a bra, I am a man.
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>Be mine
>Never had a spiritual experience in your life, pretend to be le succ royalty
>constantly shitpost about the Ukraine war

>Be Conjurer
>Have an opinion about everything, always correct and must be listened to
>Has never said anything of value in his life

>Be spider
>hates everyone but also needs to be loved by everyone
>Shamefully the most powerful magick enjoyer in succgen

>be taylor
>actually chant anon
>Literally just here for the feminism

>Le I am a supergod/dragon/dragonballz character all I need to do is astral project

I love these threads and the idea of them is great, but you lose me when I realize everyone involved is retarded
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>>39715861
i like how they feel really off, yet so intriguing to come back to, it's like im seeing some dating game and something is bound to unfold, and its some bit to have someone change to a succubusses standards (which is really funny)
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>>39715882
The thing is, they're onto something that is absolutely correct, anyone can meditate and understand it to be so, but its such an ego driven space that it seems to attract the least knowledgeable and lowest common denominator
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>>39715861
>Never had a spiritual experience in your life
???

>pretend to be le succ royalty
I said I was a princess ONCE as a joke (y'know... because I call the Queen "Mommy"?)

>constantly shitpost about the Ukraine war
I mean, its literally the most important ongoing event on Earth right now, so what else would I post about in the "mundane" category?

Also, since you're involved enough to know things from the Community Center, did you happen to read my essay~?

>>39715901
>but its such an ego driven space
I mean, I'm kinda ego-centric because I like alchemy and I'm all about self-improvement. (Understanding that "ego" literally does just mean "self" and is different from hubris.)
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>>39715972
>I
Thats the only thing anyone can get from reading this post, you're talking about you
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>>39715753
>Also can't run because I have fucking boobs from steroids and I refuse to wear a bra, I am a man.
Did you try a compression shirt, at least? Yeah, I could see a sport's bra being uncomfortable being clamped across your chest. If they're too big for a shirt. Then, I would compensate with slower speeds with steeper inclination. You'll do more work over the same period, don't get too held up on distance, it's about work put in. Even bit of running will help with your lifting, but if you got a way to get cardio in, then do what's best for you.
>>39715972
You know that's what we call 'bait' around these places.
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>>39715972
Holy shit you're annoying
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>>39715981
Well, its a post responding to personal attacks, so...

Are you upset that you got caught talking about CC stuff while you were trying to act aloof again?
Just the hazard of being dishonest, homie.

>>39715983
>Buh....
buh....
>Ate...
ate...
>Bait!
Snack!
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>>39716005
I don't know what you're on about honestly, I made a few accounts to explore the channel a while back and just left feeling disappointed at how inadequate you all are
>personal attacks
Its not really an attack if you admit it yourself

also the inner details of the ego wars between you guys is crazy, you all hate each other so much lmao, just a pile of crabs
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>>39715972
TLDR
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>>39716024
>you all hate each other so much
Not really. (not from me, anyway)

Sounds like projection given your cyber-stalking tho.

>>39716056
Again, just replying to some hater's bullshit. You didn't miss anything important.

Nice waste of a bump tho, asshole.
Really adding value letting us know you DIDN'T read something.
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>>39716085
>>39716005
>>39715972
>All these posts are the same ego only cancer with nothing to say at all
Yeah, I spent roughly two weeks on each of you getting to know you, call it stalking, I call it a hobby

>Be spider
>Incredibly physically and mentally ill
>Insecure because their mother is incredibly narcissistic
>doesn't realize that they became the narcissist
>Expresses this by holding everyone to a high standard except themselves
>Hates themselves to the point of insanity, so presents the image of being friendly and affable so other people boost their self esteem
>Will probably become a good person once they overcome this

>Be mine
>Literal bottom rung failure IRL
>tries to leech off anyone around them, similarly low self esteem
>Falls deeply into leftwing ideology because they are afraid of having to function without a group to support them
>Creates an online persona, again in an attempt to cope with their poor self esteem

>Be Conjurer
>If you get close to him it's literally just "I want to sell /x/ courses like a guru"

>Be taylor
>Was the dumpy girl in school and bullied a bunch
>Coped with this by blaming men
>ended up becoming a sociopath

I have nothing against any of you, but none of you are even self aware enough to take the roles you try to take, each and every one of you made active attempts to involve me in bringing each other down, all because your self esteem is shitty

I can't really talk, I'm ego driven and have shitty self esteem too, but the idea of going on /x/ every day to lie to myself while "educating" people on things I barely know.... if I were doing it I'd loathe myself, at least until I learned to believe the lie
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>>39715861
I cursed them to be more insane than they were for free entertainment.

Too many coomers to actually hope for good educational content.

So just sit back, and laugh.
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>>39716137
Fuck, I know who you are and don't remember your name, you'd be on the list of people I'm calling retarded too if I bothered to get to know you
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>>39716144
Nah, I haven't been in their groomer discord for ages, but it'd be funny if someone else cursed them to, hillarious if they actually succeeded.

Their hysteria over the evil astral spider drama was great entertainment.
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>>39714807
My working theory is this.
Its a form of energetic shit test. Not to say its horrible for them to do it, because our energy is how we interact with them, and how they understand us. So if they can make sure their partner has solid stable energy they can feed off, then thats good. If not, then they need to fix that. That or they get off on it. (Theyre individuals, so im speaking in general terms, each individual will have their own reasons). Or you're the one who gets off on it and theyre trying to get your ego to produce more stable energy. And by "getting off" i mean your energy becomes more deljcious. The physical pleausre of sex is something you only get if you have a body.

It also makes sense to say as well that theyd want to get to know their partner more. So if all you have to go on isyour own energy, then how else are they going to interact with you? Our ability to see forms derrives from our souls, and out individual will and ego. Human minds are unique in that we are able to make world stages in our heads. Yet we can not assume spirits view the world in the same way we do. Humans are physical beings whose primary mode of interaction with existence is through the flesh suits wrapped around our souls. Not so for spirits.

If you want to avoid being turned into a troon against your will, then theres certain attitudes, and practices you nees to adopt. Pic related. Or at least it mitigates the effects.
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>>39716153
It just seems pointless to me but if that's how you get your jollies
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>>39715983
Eh, I should probably lop them off, but the scars would ruin the soft boy image. Plus if you get an oversized suit that puffs up around chest sufficently you get to show them off. That office whore certainly got mad a dude has more tits than her. Fuck you Victoria, suck my dick.
>>39716194
Well, I wouldn't say I get off on it, I identify as a man. I am a bit too old to consider myself a femboy, certainly not a twink since it reminds me of gross unshaved, anorexic men who think they are eighteen, but certainly a feminine type of guy. Maybe she's misinterpeting it? Like girl, I have tits, I enjoy having them occasionally, especially when people get flustered or my hair grows out enough people mistake me for a woman (no, I don't look like a chick, but from a top-down view of me and I am short, you could not notice) and I shoot them with my deep sexy voice. How people shit themselves in an instant, it's delicious.
Again, I should probably lop the tits off, find a normal woman and settle down, but I take tits over huge ugly scars and women don't dig men with boobs nearly as much as men like chicks with dicks.
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>>39716136
>>Be Conjurer
>>If you get close to him it's literally just "I want to sell /x/ courses like a guru"
Huh. Well that's just slander. I have never sold anything to anyone. Nor have I ever said that I will, or want to.
No, much the opposite. Knowledge is free and it should be free. Everything I do is pointing people in the direction of free resources, so they can figure things out on their own.
And I tell people, have told people, and will continue to tell people that if you shouldn't pay for knowledge and if anyone is charging you money, it's a scam.
It seems like you're full of shit. but I guess that's no surprise considering you're a hater, and saying some pretty inflammatory and mean spirited things. For what purpose? How does this serve you? How is it productive in any way?
Well, it's probably not. Why do you do it? Probably because you have nothing better to do with your time.

Now I'm inclined to think everything else you wrote was bull shit too.
Like saying mine has never had a spiritual experience lmao. That's just shitposting at that point. Or saying spider is insecure or whatever. No, I'd say he's pretty confident most of the time. Or that chant is "just here for feminism". No, she is a feminist and I strongly disagree with her political views, but she does do magic for its own sake.

My god! Someone has achieved the impossible. I'm actually defending chant lmao
It only happens ever once in a while. There must have been a disturbance in the force
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>>39714807
>Why do succubi even do that? Like what's the profit in turning your lover transgender?
They don't
It's something that happens if you channel a shit load of feminine sexual energy, and have never integrated that before.
Eventually you'll figure it out. It's just that some people dive straight into the deep end, starting out as complete novices in magic. And you can experience some extreme changes
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>>39716342
Its up to you. Again spirits are individuals, as are you. Hence why i said "keep doing what makes your partner love you" not what you think you need to do to make them love you. Determine who you are, what you want, and how to express your energy, and what way works best to keep it how you want it. If you still want to be a chick you'll probably feel more at peace with the decision than you would being pressured by someone.
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>>39716438
Of course, the only time you'll ever help anyone is if it benefits you
>how does it benefit you
I was making a point, I care about the things you speak about and you do a really good job of shutting down high IQ posts, and that makes me sad, I'm sorry but none of you have any idea what you're doing or talking about and it would benefit everyone if you admitted that and let more intelligent people and discussions come to the channel
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>>39716449
True but energy only manifests when properly directed. Although succubi are good at taking energy and focusing it, so that also makes sense.
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>>39716194
I always assumed it had to do something with the Abrahamic mythos? Like she is pretty universally considered to dislike humanity, so it might be what she really wants the succubi to do. As you have said, it's borderline unicersal. So the idea is that, that by making you alter yourself for her child you become equally her's. So she's essentially fucking over the (mostly metaphorical) Adam and she gets you as a bonus. I don't think it's necessarily malicious, even if it might seem so to us.
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>>39716476
Decent take
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Has anyone every hung a weight on their foreskin and spun around in a circle tongenerate centrifugal pull on their cock?
This feels like an impirtant ritual to do.
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>>39716449
>It's something that happens if you channel a shit load of feminine sexual energy
So what you're saying the energy of the succubus you summon kind of spills over on you? Interesting. Would the same happen with an incubus? I mean logically it should.
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>>39716506
Wouldn't that be even gayer?
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>>39716515
But it would make you more masculine anon. You'd be the most powerful faggot in existence. A true homochad
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>>39716521
I am happy with my feminine energy
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>>39716533
Then summon (more) succubi and expand it.
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>>39716470
>Of course, the only time you'll ever help anyone is if it benefits you
No, you don't get to change the subject away from your slander.
You said I want to sell shit to people
I have never said that. You claim that "when you get close to him, he talks about wanting to sell shit to people"
That has literally NEVER happened.
In fact, it's exactly the opposite. I have, still do, and will continue to beat the drum of "magic knowledge is free".
I have said, still say, and will continue to say "if anyone is charging you money, it's a scam."
So how in the fuck do we square this one? You're saying things about me which are completely false. Totally false. You're just making shit up completely.
Same thing with you said said about mine, or spider, or even chant for god sakes
You're totally full of shit
>really good job of shutting down high IQ posts
What the fuck are you talking about? When have I ever done that?
>but none of you have any idea what you're doing or talking about
Ah, okay, so you have no idea what you're talking about
I might have my disagreements with mine, or spider, or chant, but you can't deny their knowledge, their results, or their practice.
Are they perfect? No one is. Is there room for improvement? Sure, that's true of anyone.
But to suggest they have "no idea" what they are talking about just means you are an idiot and probably an armchair magician
I hesitate to ask the question, because we all know the answer, but DO you agree with anyone? Do you believe in anything? Is there anything good or useful or true, or is it all bad
I think the question answers itself.
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>>39716136
>I can't really talk, I'm ego driven
But you talk anyway. Your self-jab was just a "haha I'm not perfect either, but at least I'm not as bad as you" moment. Point that discerning gaze at yourself first, asshole. If all you're willing to do is vomit hyperbole while trying to posture about how "I have nothing against any of you," keep it to yourself. Is there some kind of term for this complex? Who is the narcissist exactly? lmao Fuck your self-esteem. It's low so you shit on people online after you stalk them as a "hobby." What a freak dude. The world would be better off without people like you in it, so can you do us a favor and disappear by suicide? thanks :)
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>>39716506
>So what you're saying the energy of the succubus you summon kind of spills over on you?
pretty much, yes
>Would the same happen with an incubus? I mean logically it should.
Yes, indeed. you'd be channeling a bunch of masculine energy
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I didn't really think we were due for another episode in "idiot flamer is so aggressively stupid he unites the entire community against him". Season 1 was pretty good with that crazy firebird chick. I thought season 2 was over. but I guess we're in for some re-runs
I'm not entirely sure what he thought would happen if he showed up and started taking shots at everyone... but the outcome is not entirely surprising.
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>>39716476
That gets into too deep of questions to really say if its the case or not imo. It relies on the assumption that the Jewish mythos of Lilith and the popular concepts of Lilith and her daughters. Some of which are even accepted by modern "practitioners" who ore really just psychotic women with a psychotic hatred of men (why lilith would care more about human women over human men, to the point of of wanting to kill all men when it was both Adam and Eve who got Elohim's favor makes zero sense,)

Althouh there is something to be said about being made to do something you normally wouldn't do. Think of a sling shot with an extra stiff rubberband. You need to pull harder, because the rubberband on the slightshot doesnt want to streatch. Yet when the action of you pulling back reaches its necessary limit, the slingshot, is met withe the counter action of the rubberband shooting a projectile forward. Then the slingshot retuns to rest after expelling the stored energy in the rubberband

The human is the slingshot. The action of pulling back is the forcing of a human to do something they don't want to do. The release of the rubberband is the final relenting of the human in compliance. The energy released by the slingshot as it launches its projectile is smthe same as human spiritual energy in this process.

Or at least thats my working theory lmao, i could be completely wrong
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>>39716550
>Text wall
I don't care about whatever it is you're saying and I'm not going to read it, you had me attack mine, spider and tay for various reasons, I've seen enough of you to have my opinion of you

>>39716552
I'm not the one trying to drive discourse on this, its a channel that belongs to you people, just as this thread is the same, redirecting it away from that point is meaningless to me
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>>39716577
That was the blandest dodge I've ever seen. One of the hardest lessons I've had to learn in life is that you are a morally culpable agent in the world, and every sin is counted and logged, and it's YOU who will hold yourself to account. I've also learned that the world would in every single metric be better without some people in it, so fuck off and die, or just don't come back here. What I'm trying to say is, fuck you, take the log out of your eye before pointing out the splinter in mine, etc etc. If you're a bad person you should be treated badly. I know these people on some level, and I think I know them well enough to say they're not bad and don't deserve your shit. So stalk your ass into an early grave you dumb nigger.
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>>39716136
>I spent roughly two weeks on each of you getting to know you, call it stalking, I call it a hobby
Yikes. You are a stalker, and your sick fixations make you the biggest wretch here by default, and by far.

You're really shit at your hobby too, cuz literally everything was wrong.
I mean seriously...
>Thinks I'm left wing
You're saying more about yourself than me, Adolph.

>each and every one of you made active attempts to involve me in bringing each other down
Nope, not at all. And who are you, exactly?
Do you even know anything besides the names? Spider's a friend, dipshit.

>while "educating" people
I pity the fool who comes to 4chan for that, but nice hand-tip, christfag.
We'll continue teaching the heresy that makes you seethe and lie and sin and debase yourself so.
Lie some more, sicko. Your sky-daddy loves it.
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>>39716577
>I don't care about whatever it is you're saying and I'm not going to read it
Oh okay, so you collapse under the first sign of pressure. Damn, I thought this was going to be more fun.
I will repeat myself. I have said, still say, and will continue to say that "magic is free" and anyone trying to charge you money for knowledge is a scam. Everything I tell people about is free, and publicly available. Never, not once, have I ever tried to sell something to people.
Everyone knows this. It's been something I've said this kind of thing over and over again.
I'm not sure why you'd try to make up this kind of obvious lie, but you are really bad at trolling if your bull shit narrative falls apart after like ONE fucking follow up question lmao
Like at the first sign of trouble you bail haha

I will ask you again, DO you believe in anything? Is there anyone you agree with? Or are you just a hater who has nothing of value to add, other than taking shots at everyone?

>I'm not the one trying to drive discourse on this
LMAO he runs away at the first sign of trouble. My god, man, he might win the olympic gold medal in back pedaling at the speeds he's going.
What an absolute pathetic leech of a man. He has nothing to say, only takes shots and spreads hate, then runs away and won't even stand by that. What a fucking joke of a person lmao
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>>39716573
I think there is something wrong with taking a Jewish perspective of Lillith only, as to them she is the enemy

>>39716572
the "community" is a collection of individuals at war with each other for various reasons, pretty much every opinion shared is based on who thinks what for some social struggle for power, and I know all four of you are equally retarded and do the same thing, all I care about is an increase in the quality of the space so I can gain the insight of some of the more intelligent people out there, every time they showed up you people chased them off instead of learning from them
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>>39716573
The dislike for Adam is logical, considering he was the one who wronged her, basically escalating the issue to God. Eve didn't personally do anything bad to her, so it makes sense to consider she dislikes her less. I believe even in the original story she is mentioned haunting the offspring of Adam, not necessarily Eve's descendants. Either way, my former draft is pretty independent of whether you believe she actually hated men specifically or not. However, since we assume she DOES, we can just say she is fucking over Adam squared since she turns his son into her daughter, somewhat humiliating him, showing even his chidlren prefer her.
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>>39716136
>>39715861

Now, I want a reading like that on me too.
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>>39716600
>That was the blandest dodge I've ever seen.
A hundred percent
Dude's dodging bullets like neo in the matrix
I think he actually thought this conversation would go differently in his head. He'd just post that ridiculous, I mean obviously false hit piece and then somehow... everyone (who he just fired shots at) would somehow come to his defense? Or agree with him?
Lmao this guy really just has no idea
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>>39716601
Both of you had me attack the viewpoint of the other, for spider it was because you were spiritually dead, for you it was because spider was getting too much attention, it would all be really easy if you could all accept that you are not perfect and live with each others flaws but the place is nuts

>>39716600
In the words of styx, heaven, be it karma or god above, is for those who fear hell, witchcraft is for those who have been there, if karma existed at all I would have positive karma for shoving the realities of yourself in your face so that you might be happy one day
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>>39716626
You are now imagining your succuwife voicing your insecurities to you
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>>39716616
You're a fucking retard if that's a genuine assessment of the discord. The community center has literally never been more peaceful and stable. There are fights and roughhousing now and then, but it always goes back to normal. There are no power struggles, there's just super light moderation. The worst it gets is being moderately suspicious of newcomers who present a certain way and come off as trolls. You're a disinfo agent and you should commit sudoku irl
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>>39716631
>Both of you had me
No, but like ACTUALLY, who are you? lol
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Repent and turn away from summoning demons.
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>>39716521
Holy shit, you've discovered why the Ancient Greeks were so damn good at fighting. They just didn't have boywives, they were getting topped by Incubi too. Truly weaponized faggotry.
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>>39716616
>pretty much every opinion shared is based on who thinks what for some social struggle for power
Man you really are just a hater aren't you
What community have you been in?
People share info for egotistical reasons yes, but they also share them out of joy. Being happy for each other's relationships
giving tips and tricks, helping each other trouble shoot stuff so they can do more, or see more I guess if that's what you want
You don't see any friendship or sense of community at all, do you? That's kind of sad honestly
I guess that's how you live your life. You're just a hater
I will, once again, ask you if you believe in ANYTHING, or agree with ANYONE
Is there anything good, or true, or useful? Or is it all bad?
I think we all know your answer to that question. And honestly, I feel bad for you. Being a hater is not a fun way to live your life
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>>39716631
Thanks for showing how little you're worth engaging with.
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>>39716643
I mean power to you if you've managed to grow, I just don't believe you
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>>39716646
And now a succubus will come to you in your dreams, destroy you sexually, then remind you of that one (life)time where you wanted to be a girl and this is all because you couldn't shut up. No seriously, that's a surefire way to draw attention to yourself
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>>39716653
I don't think you are the one who should be feeling pity for anyone anon...
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>>39716666
Who said it would be a succubus?
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>>39716646
No, YOU repent of your prejudice and hubris. You have pridefully come in here to spread falsehoods among people who know better.
You will hear nothing of truth, and your purpose here is purely insidious.

You sin in service to a sinful false god.

>>39716661
And when you refuse to check to make sure your claims are true, that makes you a liar by your willful neglect of Truth.
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>>39716661
>I just don't believe you
right, and he's a skeptic atheist
I'm not surprised
Everyone is wrong, everyone is stupid, but he's standing there as the one smart guy in the room
What a fucking retard.
Kid, you'll never get ahead if you don't listen to other people
I cannot tell you how many times I've learned something from someone else, just by asking simple questions. Even, and maybe especially of people I've underestimated or thought I had nothing to learn from. I don't do that anymore.
Even the dumbest, most idiotic person, I will listen to if they can do something I can't do, or say something I've never heard of before.
I am literally talking about cursed pleasures by the way. That guy taught me to never underestimate anyone. Everyone has something to teach you. It was a good lesson to learn.
Networking is OP.
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>>39716679
The pretentious manner in which you say
>yeah, we're better now
Makes me think you're full of shit lmao
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>>39716680
That's basically my point, you can say it as much as you like but unless you actually act on it it's just worthless words spider
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>>39716677
Ehh, when he's done with anon I feel like there will be at least one succubus in the room, apologizing for being silly.
>>39716646
Is that what you wanted honey? You couldnhabe just always asked Lilth to take you in.
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>>39716668
>I don't think you are the one who should be feeling pity for anyone anon...
Why is that? Your life obviously sucks if you'd rather spend time with people you dislike.
Don't you have any friends? Any better way of spending your time?
Again, the question answers itself, and that's sad.
I spend time with people I like, who like me back. People I can learn from, people I respect. It's a lot better that way.
Maybe you should try it some time
And spend time with people you do actually have respect for? Instead of just being a hater
And also maybe fix your delusional idiocy too lmao
You gotta come up with less obvious shitposting my friend. And if you really do believe that shit, you ARE delusional.
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>>39716661
NTA It's true the community center has really good vibes. I really like it.
Yes it's individuals but i don't really see any war or any fighting there. It's a great server to have a good time, it's cool people and I have already learned some things. I am happy to be there.
Also I don't know if you are the person who said these things about Mine, but as far as I know Mine, they are a really nice person and they created a really nice place and they were always really nice to me, without ever asking for anything in return. I like them.
You should read their essay.
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>>39716646
Based, fuck demon fags.
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>>39716696
>You dislike
I don't dislike any of you
>>39716698
I literally cannot imagine mine turning into a decent person, when I was there it was always kept as subtle as possible as well like it was a gay VtM larp, I respect your opinion but I'd need to see it to believe it, sorry anon
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>>39716695
lol they won't do shit.
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>>39716694
>That's basically my point, you can say it as much as you like but unless you actually act on it it's just worthless words spider
For one, I am conjurer
you can tell, because of the name I'm using right now
So that marks you as a newfag to 4chan as well... kinda not surprised. Makes me think you really are new here, not just to magic, but to this website and community in general
That, combined with your comically transparent trolling, does start to build up a certain picture
And the fact that you're running away screaming the instant you start getting push back... yeah, you can go fuck yourself.

For two, once again, it seems like you don't actually believe in magic. You don't know that people are actually DOING things? What else would you do in magic? That's kind of part of the job description. you do stuff, and try to make things happen, and accomplish practical outcomes. It's practical and it's a practice.
Not really that complicated my dude
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>>39716713
>>You dislike
>I don't dislike any of you
I'm not really sure if you're being serious here, or if this is some kind of rhetorical device to "dodge" criticism or pushback
You do that a lot, don't you? Dodge criticism or people arguing against you?
You are a very dishonest person. Stand by your words
I know you can't, and dodge anyone calling you out on your obvious bull shit, but man, come on! You gotta try harder than that
You can't just come in spreading obvious lies, take shots at everyone, and then act surprised when people call you out
The quality of trolling on 4chan really has gone to the shitter. It's not even... like sophisticated.
Too easy my man.
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>>39714193
You discussed this with the green goblin in the mirror.
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>>39716713
Well, if you would actually read their essay I think you would understand that Mine is a really decent person who only wants Good for as much people as possible.
Them creating and cultivating their server reflects that. I couldn't do that for the sake of a bunch of other people having a good time. Mine does it and they do it very well.
how can you literally think badly of Mine? I don't get it.
The only reason I can imagine is if someone would have a problem with Mine being sex positive, if a person has a problem with that because of their own worldview
But apart from that I don't really see any reason for anyone to think Mine is not a decent person.
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>>39716721
Larp, the other poster was spider, you are conjurer

Understanding magic is like pointing at the moon, do as much as you like, do it for a thousand years and you still wont truly understand, why? because you are here, and it is there

I love magic, but everyone wants to apply an absolutism to it, I remember talking about magic in your discord, because you are all stuck in your ways it became impossible to talk about what I do in a way that could be understood, you all have a very strong belief in your collective system, I remember seeing others with the same problem, thinking about how that annoyed me is what convinced me to make this post today, your channel would have been wonderful if you could recognize this

>>39716733
Genuinely I don't dislike you at all

>>39716753
I know mine presents that image but after getting to know them they were the worst of the four, I guess it makes sense, they had this whole complex for convincing themselves they were morally righteous, if you post it I'll take the time to read it, maybe it's helpful, fundamentally no one is perfect and everyone has good and bad points, but I don't believe they've become a good person no
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>>39716734
And fucking rhino in my toilet
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So what's the difference between succubi and incubi?
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>>39716804
Not much really, the kind of energy is all, they're fundamentally the same creature
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>>39716720
They will, but that's fine. You will enjoy yourself more that way anyways.
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>>39716809
Gay?
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>>39716681
>You say >yeah, we're better now
So is the game that just everything is a lie?
Where did I say what was better than when? Make sense, liar.
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>>39716823
Whats the difference between a man and a woman anon, are they different species?
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>>39716828
I don't have to believe your statements if they go against what I understand anon
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>>39716814
Nah. I already foolishly tried this shit before and nothing happened.
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>>39716831
Penis and vaginas. Spirits got those?
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>>39716838
You sound frustrated, if you really mean the offering you should try it again, Lillith will not harm you, but you do have to mean it
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>>39716835
>if they go against what I understand
By which you mean your dogma.
And hubris has caused you to place "My Dogma" above the knowledge and experience of others.

You have no logical reason to give your beliefs such a status. You feel this way because it feels better for YOU at the cost of others, and that is a sin.
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>>39716844
It's very similar right, imagine the energy a dick and a vagina have, and that gives you succubi and incubi, it's not exactly this simple and sometimes it gets weird, but here is the basis of your difference, it's basically lgbtqiLETTERS without being faggoty, also even if you are the worst person on earth there will be a succubi that can love you
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>>39716849
I meant it.
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>>39716856
Not really, but it would be nice to talk about my understanding without being "educated" by the egotistical, I don't do that to others after all

Like honestly, I probably could stand to accept the views of others moreso, but if talking about what I know, understand, practice and see starts conflict every time because it's not in line with what someone else is doing, why should I respect those viewpoints, especially from people who are in DM with me going "Hey, it would be really funny if you said this to fuck with spider" about their own statements
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>>39716873
Then you might have approached it in the wrong state of mind, I know for me if I enter a ritual for example with an anxiety towards success, that can ruin it, its really easy with succubi but you still have to do your best

Also it's possible she hasn't arrived yet, results are not immediate
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>>39716882
This was like 6 years ago
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>>39716774
> after getting to know them they were the worst of the four
I don't get it. What is so bad about them? I don't see how they leech off anyone. They share what is important to them and they are passionate and they like it if you find what they have to say of value, how is that not a normal and decent thing?
I discussed their essay with them at length and even if I disagreed at some points with them they were not bad to me. It was an respectful exchange, what do you mean by leeching?
I never saw them leeching of anyone.
Also I don't see how they are leftwing, also I don't get why being leftwing must be a bad thing.

About the morally righteous thing, yeah maybe that is important to them, but I don't see how this makes them a bad person.
They allow other opinions and discussion, so what is the problem here?

idk if their essay is still up. they posted it in last thread:
>>39671594 pdf
>>39672492 txt
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>>39715753
>Like I don't want to troon, because I wouldn't look good
this doesn't make you not trans lol it just makes you a repper
something you probably don't know about is how much their magic helps with transition
>>39714807
if their lover isn't trans there is no profit or real motivation to doing this
if they are it's a lot more fulfilling to be with someone who is true and wholly themselves rather than lying about it, even in part
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>>39716888
I don't know then, I don't know everything, I can only really recommend trying again
>>39716892
IRL they leech, I don't want to give more details than that because it would be mean, it just gives context towards how they act online
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>>39716774
>Larp, the other poster was spider, you are conjurer
You literally replied to me, a post which had the name "the one and only conjurer". That was me, you idiot
How stupid can you be?
>Understanding magic is like pointing at the moon, do as much as you like, do it for a thousand years and you still wont truly understand, why? because you are here, and it is there
Ah, so you really are an atheist. Or maybe an armchair magician. Either way, you believe you can't actually DO magic.
No. Magic is tangible, it's something you can do, and something you can understand firsthand in your life. It's not distant like the moon which you can never reach. It is something that you can experience deeply, see its effects, investigate the causes, and get better at over time.
It is a skill, just like any other hobby, sport, or artform.
> because you are all stuck in your ways it became impossible to talk about what I do in a way that could be understood
>blah blah blah, no one understands me, I'm so smart, everyone else is so wrong
This kind of belief is not surprising, considering you're shit at magic
Once again, I will tell you. You should listen to other people. It makes learning so fast. You can learn something from anyone. Literally anyone. Why? Because everyone knows something you don't know. Everyone has something to teach you
Or, you could sit around theorycrafting, and never actually doing any magic, and lmao
Uh, ignoring everyone who actually IS doing something in magic, then claiming you know better even though you're just an armchair magician with no results. I mean the hubris!
Is there really any difference between an armchair occultist like you who thinks magic isn't real and you can't actually ever DO magic, and an atheist? No, not really
Magic is tangible. It's real. It's accessible. It's something you can actually do.
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>>39716804
>So what's the difference between succubi and incubi?
one is a boy, the other is a girl
That's the only real difference
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>>39716856
>By which you mean your dogma.
>And hubris has caused you to place "My Dogma" above the knowledge and experience of others.
it's exactly that
He's admitted to being an armchair occultist, and he thinks he knows better than anyone who actually has experience
I mean he said spider doesn't have a real practice. Like lol wtf?
I have my disagreements with him, but you can't just say that and expect to be taken seriously
Or that you have never had a spiritual experience? The absolute foolishness of it
This guy is retarded. Or a troll. If he actually believes that, he's delusional
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>>39716913
Imagine believing that you can both do magic, and not understand it very well, that each system is just that; a system

It's fights like these that are why I think so poorly of the channel, I had way too many of these, like you've failed to understand the statement at all even though it's a famous quote from a very important monk, but you do not hesitate at all to call me retarded for your failure to understand, it's tiring
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>>39716906
What happened to your spooky "they will visit you for looking at this thread" shit?
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>>39716931
I said that mine doesn't, because mine themselves stated this, as much as they will change their tune today, I said that spider was the most magickally adept among you, if you're going to be angry and miss the point at least miss the point accurately
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>>39716919
which means what in regards to non biologics?
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>>39716876
>Not really, but it would be nice to talk about my understanding without being "educated" by the egotistical, I don't do that to others after all
Woah.
This guy really won't accept any criticism at all. Like he actually thinks he's just having a normal conversation, and isn't throwing around a lot of hate and negativity. I mean is this trolling? Is he serious when he says this?
I'm starting to wonder what kind of issues this guy has. If he's actually serious, then yes, he has some kind of personality disorder. I'm trying to figure out exactly what it might be.
I mean being super aggressive, saying hateful things, even things which are obviously false... then acting as if you didn't say anything at all???
If he's serious, then yes, that is a mental illness. Huh
Yeah I feel bad for him
> especially from people who are in DM with me
.... yeah, bro, I don't think you're in DMs with anyone. You clearly don't actually know the people in this community, and you're making things up entirely.
You're completely full of shit
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>>39716940
That wasn't me, but hey they might, I hope they do
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>>39716952
>Replies to a statement where I accept some shortcomings
>Wow, you really can't accept criticism at all (they did not agree with me)
Aren't you kind of projecting anon
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>>39716936
>Imagine believing that you can both do magic
Again, with the atheism
You literally think people just "believe" they can do magic
Meaning you think no one here is actually doing magic
Is there anyone here you agree with? Anyone here that you, as the ultimate authority being the beginner with no results and no experience as an armchair occultist, will deem worthy as a fellow traveler?
Anyone here you believe is actually doing magic? Or anything good, or useful or true?
Or is everyone a fraud or a larper?
Man, this is getting worse and worse
Now he thinks no one is doing real magic lmao
He actually said spider doesn't have a real practice lmao what a fucking moron
>like you've failed to understand the statement at all even though it's a famous quote from a very important monk
Ah yes, because the REAL magic is in memorizing quotes from books
Not in actually DOING any magic. The guy who memorizes all the quotes is the real authority here.... not the people with experience.
Yeah, this idiot is an armchair magician. Monday quarter back. He's never done any magic, but he's certain he knows best, and most especially, that he knows better than anyone who has experience who disagrees with him
Again, kid, you really should humble yourself and listen to other people
I have lost count of the number of times I underestimated someone, and then later on I learned from them. So I don't underestimate people any more.
You can learn something from anyone.
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>>39716989
nta i still dont like u either but this is hilarious if what ur saying is true
armchair experts who wont try things the infinite bane
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>>39716945
>I said that mine doesn't, because mine themselves stated this,
When did mine ever say he's never had a spiritual experience? Are you retarded?
Mine has posted many reports of his experiences???
I mean this is the dumbest one out of all your takes. It really is the most stupid thing
But again, more importantly, you are STILL going off text rather than actual experience
It's like you only live in books, and discount or dismiss anyone else's actual reported experiences.
You're an armchair occultist dude. Maybe once you have some results under your belt, you'll have room to criticize others and say they have no idea what they are talking about
I always judge a magician by their results. That is really the only metric I use.
If they have shitty results, I don't take their advice. If they have good results, or can do something I can't do, I listen. It's really just that simple
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>>39716989
>Can't understand my statement
>accuses me of being an atheist because I explained my viewpoint as a practitioner of magick
Clearly nothing has changed, if you genuinely don't understand feel free to read the statement again but going
>y-y-you don't do magic
Doesn't fill me with a load of confidence in your skills considering I've dumbed it down to a quotable reference to a 16th century religious figure
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>>39716949
>which means what in regards to non biologics?
One is feminine, the other is masculine
One of them likes to fuck you, the other one wants to be fucked by you
Spirits still have bodies, they just have energy bodies
And yes, that means they can express different body parts if they want to
But if they don't have a preferred form, that just means they are pansexual or trans sexual or whatever. Not really a man or woman, just something in between, or maybe gender fluid or whatever
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>>39717002
>Mfw I don't even read books, I just do the witchcraft and get the jist of systems and try them out
>Mfw this retarded nigger thinks I don't do magick because I state you can't trust your own experiences or knowledge completely and to know magic is the same as "pointing at the moon"
Fucking hell you guys are clowns
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Am I damned if I summon one of these things?
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>>39717022
just post ur shit here and let it be independently evaluated ur getting caught up in el social games
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>>39717026

They will love you very much, Jewish god might not anymore, but he's not very nice to begin with and you'll be doing yourself a favor
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>>39716963
>>Replies to a statement where I accept some shortcomings
>>Wow, you really can't accept criticism at all (they did not agree with me)
>Aren't you kind of projecting anon
Wow, he really can't do it, can he
You keep saying "I don't really dislike anyone". And you can't accept any criticism at all. Then you just keep deflecting
And ignoring any good points people make
Like how ridiculous your claim about spider "not knowing anything at all" or mine "never having a spiritual experience". This is just absurd
Or claiming that I want to sell things to people. You still haven't answered that slander by the way. That's exactly opposite of who I am, and what I do and I have never done that. I know for an absolute fact that you're full of shit because I've never done that.
Huh. So you're a narcissist. Any criticism or pushback you simply cannot even entertain
That's how narcissists work actually. Their eyes don't let them see criticism. They actually cannot accept it into their conscious awareness.
So yeah, you're a narcissist
Would explain why you think you know everything, and everyone else (literally everyone) is so stupid while you're so smart, even though you admitted to being an armchair magician
Huh. Well I guess that solves that mystery. You're an idiot. But you're mentally ill. and narcissism is a doozy. Yeah, I actually feel bad for you.
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>>39717031
I don't want to go to hell m8
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>>39717026
ya damned forever tainted soul hell realm vored eternally for 500 eternities, you'll be set free on eternity 501 dont worry
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>>39717028
>argues with me constantly because he can't understand fucking simple things
No, for the same reason I wouldn't in the channel: you do not deserve it
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>>39717038
Hell is pretty nice if you belong there
>>39717033
Nothing but noise
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>>39717042
>you do not deserve it
ok so ur a gatekeeper and therefore trash garbage and everyone would laugh if you said your ideas publicly
blah blah pearls before swine
blah blah giving a baby a gun
you're the one who doesn't deserve what you have lol
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>Sex in dreams
Sounds like shit. I want to fuck in the real.
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>>39717063
you can fuck in the real just fine, all day everyday if you wanted once connection is developed
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>>39717066
But am I DAMNED?
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>>39717005
>>accuses me of being an atheist because I explained my viewpoint as a practitioner of magick
>Clearly nothing has changed, if you genuinely don't understand feel free to read the statement again but going
Bud. Kiddo
You LITERALLY said you can't do magic lmao
You said it's like pointing at the moon, and it's an entirely useless endeavor because you'll never get there
No. You are an idiot lmao
Magic is real. It's a thing you can do. It doesn't take a 1000 years. Most beginners can get results within minute if not days
If you can't do that, it's because you have a skill issue
>>y-y-you don't do magic
>Doesn't fill me with a load of confidence in your skills considering I've dumbed it down to a quotable reference to a 16th century religious figure
Once again, strangely, he doesn't actually refute the claim!
He doesn't just full on say "Yes, I can do magic. I have gotten results. I think it's real, and I can do it"
No, he starts going off on claims and priors like this is a high school debate club. Then starts referring to books and literature
No you dumb idiot. Magic is not something you talk about. It is something you DO. You can talk about it for sure, but only ever talking about it and never doing it means you aren't doing magic because you aren't doing anything. You're just talking about it
Magic is not something you read about. Same logic applies. Reading about something is not the same as doing the thing. To be a magician, you have to actually DO magic. Reading books helps sure, but you do have to actually DO something at some point.
If you're not doing anything, you're not doing magic. Because you are literally doing nothing
This is not complicated.
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>>39717058
Not a gatekeeper at all, but if you argue with me over fucking everything, why am I going to share with me just for you to argue more, all you are is fucking noise, all any of you are are fucking noise

You might not like the things I said earlier, but if you actually want to be le guru and teach people shit for money, letting the big brains come in and having an open mind might actually get you there
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>>39717068
You're already damned, Eve fucked up long ago. That shit in the New Testament was fanfiction.
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>>39717070
You are the one saying you need a full and complete understanding of magick to practice it, if you don't understand what I'm saying you can just go "I don't understand what you're saying"

But you don't do that, you like everyone else care more about the social hierarchy than actually learning
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>>39717068
see my answer here >>39717041
if you want a less sarcastic one, obviously not unless your goal was to hang out in yahwehs boring stasis garden forever there are many places to explore that are not that
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>>39717022
wow, that's an amazing strawman you got there
I'm sure if you just ignore and dodge any of my criticism, surely other people won't notice
But once again, you dumb moron, I will ask you
Point blank, full on.
Do you actually DO anything? Do you get results? Has anything you've tried ever worked? Or have you just never tried anything?
> thinks I don't do magick because I state you can't trust your own experiences or knowledge completely and to know magic is the same as "pointing at the moon"
Lmao, no no. you dumb idiot. That's not how that works
Let me explain it to you again.
Magic is real. Magic is something you can do. It's something tangible and it's something you can do right now
If that's not how it works for you, and it's as distant as the moon, and as mysterious and unknowable, it's because you are shit at magic
But again. Please. Just actually say it. Say you do magic.
Go ahead.
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>>39717088
Your tone wasn't mocking enough, it's important to always mock yahweh very strongly (he doesn't like it)
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>>39717072
>you
just to clarify I entered this chain randomly without saying nta, but you and I have only ever shared a couple messages back and forth. im not in the discord
why get caught in the arguments and noise
post your findings or thoughts
ignore monkey slinging
>money
fucking gross ew get it away from me
people who gatekeep knowledge for money should be gunned down in the streets like the filthy degenerates they are dont help them
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>>39717094
>Do you actually do anything
I've said yes like 5 times, while also getting more and more irritated you are too stupid to understand my statements

Do you practice?
Come on now, be honest

word games are infuriating aren't they
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>>39717050
>>>39717033 (You)
>Nothing but noise
Okay, so you really are a narcissist
You can't accept or even allow yourself to be conscious of any criticism. You literally won't allow yourself to even think about criticism.
That was really odd you how kept dodging, but it makes sense now
I'll post it again, because it really deserves repeating just how full of shit you are

>Like how ridiculous your claim about spider "not knowing anything at all" or mine "never having a spiritual experience". This is just absurd
>Or claiming that I want to sell things to people. You still haven't answered that slander by the way. >That's exactly opposite of who I am, and what I do and I have never done that. I know for an absolute fact that you're full of shit because I've never done that.
>Huh. So you're a narcissist. Any criticism or pushback you simply cannot even entertain
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>>39717096
>it's important to always mock yahweh very strongly (he doesn't like it)
thats funny but i dont hate him i guess like many do here
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>>39717100
>fucking gross ew get it away from me
I'll take your money then.
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>>39717058
>you're the one who doesn't deserve what you have lol
No, you don't understand
He doesn't have anything
He copes with some bull shit quote about the moon, how you can never really "have" magic
He's an armchair magician and a narcissist
And he's constructed a delusion where actually he's the smartest guy in the room, even though he has no results and no experience.
And he knows better than everyone (literally everyone)
I mean he has dodged that question multiple times, about if he does agree with anyone, or thinks anyone is doing something good or useful or true
Yeah. He really is a narcissist. He thinks he's the king of the universe and has nothing to learn from anyone, even though he has absolutely no results or experience
But he memorized that quote from that one guy real good. That's what makes him a magician. Memorizing quotes
Doing magic? Hah. No, he's above that. Beyond that. lmao what a retard
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>>39717100
I'm not going to do it while the discord posse is seething about what I said, I'll let that die in anonymity, I probably won't post here again since it clearly isn't worth it

>Gunning down conjurer
kek, I am sorry I accused you of being him

>>39717113
I've accepted fault multiple times in the thread, I called spider the most magically adept on the server, putting words in my mouth means you know that you lost, so thank you

>>39717114
I dislike him strongly, it's logical to do so, but you do you anon
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>>39717121
fingerguns i dont have any but i dont need it at all to be happy
yea im insane but i have 24/7 succubus
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>>39717140
>I dislike him strongly, it's logical to do so, but you do you anon
i dislike him too but i said hate
maybe i should mock more it just doesnt come up often because i avoid places where it does
aint been in this place in a minute how the hell are we at succgen #600 almost
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>>39717081
>You are the one saying you need a full and complete understanding of magick to practice it
When did I ever say that? I have literally said the exact opposite, even in this very thread. Beginners can get results within minutes if not a couple days.
Also, by the way, nice dodge and straw man
WAIT, you keep doing that!
You keep coming up with insane wacky things to straw man people, then gas light and claim you never said such a thing
You really are a narcissist! holy fuck, bro. You are checking all the boxes in the diagnostic criterion
It's not like pokemon bro, you're not supposed to catch them all
My god man, this guy really is a narcissist

Here, I'll post your stupidity once again. I'm wondering if you'll ever answer any of this
>Like how ridiculous your claim about spider "not knowing anything at all" or mine "never having a spiritual experience". This is just absurd
>Or claiming that I want to sell things to people. You still haven't answered that slander by the way.
>That's exactly opposite of who I am, and what I do and I have never done that. I know for an absolute fact that you're full of shit because I've never done that.
>Huh. So you're a narcissist. Any criticism or pushback you simply cannot even entertain

>But you don't do that, you like everyone else care more about the social hierarchy than actually learning
And add in some antisocial disorder on top of that. Well done, young man. you really are on your way to "catching them all", just like a pokemon master.
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>>39717163
So which is it then nigger, am I an atheist for believing that or do you practice the same thing, make up your mind you retarded ape
>Here I'm wondering if you'll answer to these words you did not say
I tell you what conjurer, I don't think I'm a narcissist, but I do think I'm better than you

The funny thing is there were people better than me on the server, and you chased all of them away, they silently left without so much as a word
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>>39717112
>I've said yes like 5 times, while also getting more and more irritated you are too stupid to understand my statements
No, you kept equivocating and dodging and back pedaling
Though I'm glad you stopped talking about magic as if you can "never understand it" and it's as distant and mysterious as the moon. It certainly isn't like that (at all), and that's why I think you're an armchair magician.

Now, let's see.
Has your magic actually DONE anything. Have you ever gotten any results?
Or is your "practice" mostly about memorizing quotes and reading books, while never actually trying anything or putting things into practice?
I think you might actually be retarded and have confused these two things together. They are very very different. One is theoretical, and the other is practical
Magic is practical. If you aren't actually DOING it, then you aren't doing magic. Just reading about it. And that makes you an armchair magician
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>>39717140
>I've accepted fault multiple times in the thread
lol, wtf, no you haven't at all
Where have you?

anyway, I'm going to post this again, cuz you keep ignoring it
And I know that whatever you are ignoring, it must be a good point
So go ahead. What's your response to me pointing out how completely full of shit you are?
I'm waiting.

>Like how ridiculous your claim about spider "not knowing anything at all" or mine "never having a spiritual experience". This is just absurd
>Or claiming that I want to sell things to people. You still haven't answered that slander by the way.
>That's exactly opposite of who I am, and what I do and I have never done that. I know for an absolute fact that you're full of shit because I've never done that.
>Huh. So you're a narcissist. Any criticism or pushback you simply cannot even entertain

>I called spider the most magically adept on the server, putting words in my mouth means you know that you lost, so thank you
Yeah, so this is gas lighting. You are a narcissist. You actually can't imagine ever being wrong, so you hallucinate things that aren't there (straw man) and intentionally forget things that are inconvenient to you (gas light).
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>>39717185
Again, why would I talk to you about it, are you going to call me an atheist again? I'll talk about my practice with people who do not scream at me each time I do
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>>39717182
My god man, can you EVER, even ONCE answer a straight fucking question that criticizes you?
You really are a narcissist. You just completely gas light yourself to forget any flaws and dodge any criticism, then you gas light others
You fucking moron, I know what you're doing. I know you're a narcissist. You're only tricking yourself
I'll repeat myself

>>You are the one saying you need a full and complete understanding of magick to practice it
>When did I ever say that? I have literally said the exact opposite, even in this very thread. Beginners can get results within minutes if not a couple days.
I mean your shit is just so transparently and obviously false??? Do you believe this shit? It's so obviously false I'm honestly shocked.
But I guess this is the gas lighting you get from a cornered narcissist. They say the most outlandish things with full confidence, then retreat, dodge, back pedal, and pretend they never said any of it
It is almost astonishing to see in real time.
I really am having a conversation with a full blown narcissist. This is incredible.

Oh, and here's your stupidity again
Will you ever answer for how fucking braindead retarded you are?
>Like how ridiculous your claim about spider "not knowing anything at all" or mine "never having a spiritual experience". This is just absurd
>Or claiming that I want to sell things to people. You still haven't answered that slander by the way.
>That's exactly opposite of who I am, and what I do and I have never done that. I know for an absolute fact that you're full of shit because I've never done that.
>Huh. So you're a narcissist. Any criticism or pushback you simply cannot even entertain
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>>39717206
>I'm going to post these things you didn't say again
>>39715861
>spider is the most powerful magick enjoyer in succgen

And yes, your primary motivation was profit, or do you not remember your conversations with chris

All this just because you can't just take a viewpoint that isn't yours, this mindset is why I made the post in the first place and clearly nothing has changed, you didn't even understand most of what I said and just called me an atheist, I just can't imagine being this retarded, I don't know how to speak to someone so retarded, I just don't understand
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I came to the conclusion that conj is a paid disinfo agent over a year ago do with that info what you will
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>>39717207
>Again, why would I talk to you about it, are you going to call me an atheist again? I'll talk about my practice with people
Oh okay, so yes, you're a full armchair magician with no results. There really is no difference between that and an atheist, because you doubt everyone else who actually DOES get results, and thinks you're better than tham.
You think reading books is the same as doing magic. No, even better actually. And actually doing any magic, really.... it's beneath you. Isn't it? So fucking cringe lmao
And adding things to your resume to try and puff up your status is the main reason you engage in what you call "magic"
Man you really do just fold instantly when given even cursory pressure. You really just have nothing but hot air
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>>39717233
Fuck that stands to reason, no wonder he talked so little about himself
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>>39717233
I disagree.
What is disinfo about his actual advice and recommendations? Can you make a few examples?
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>>39717242
I'm not sure how I can respond to you repeatedly saying I don't practice other than to call you a nigger at this point
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post in the threads the discord just obfuscates information from lurkers it's like digital ID
think of the 10 lurkers who never post for every poster
think of the random tourists
think of how everything is archived and can never be deleted on a whim by a server owner
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>>39717226
>>I'm going to post these things you didn't say again
Right, right. Yes, the gas lighting. This is how a narcissist functions.
you never said those things, because you're just perfect and wonderful and you'd never said anything bad, right?

Now that he can't outright ignore the criticism (which his diseased mind desperately wishes to do), he addresses it with the bare minimum and then claims "lies".
It's like he's following a fucking script, and checking all the boxes in the diagnostic criteria for NPD. It's kinda crazy honestly how strictly he's adhering to that criteria.

In any case, anyone can read what you've said in this thread, and see that I am directly quoting you
Here it is, again, in case anyone missed it.
>Like how ridiculous your claim about spider "not knowing anything at all" or mine "never having a spiritual experience". This is just absurd
>Or claiming that I want to sell things to people. You still haven't answered that slander by the way.
>That's exactly opposite of who I am, and what I do and I have never done that. I know for an absolute fact that you're full of shit because I've never done that.
>Huh. So you're a narcissist. Any criticism or pushback you simply cannot even entertain
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I am not going to even try to decipher who's who in this flame war. But I do know one thing, all y'all need to get your ass blasted by a succubus, incubus, or some callgirl with an extra large strap-on package. The sexual tension is so palpable. You are so passionate for the other side. If you guys keep continuing it's going to end in one way, a fucking bunch of hornyposting, well, I HOPE it does, you can't go through all this shit flinging and not have a happy end.
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>>39717248
Lack of depth, loudness meant to obfuscate real conversation
Intentionally starts and gets people into circular arguments that chase others away to that end
I hate to say that I believe he is good at his job
To your point about examples, can you give an example of good practical advice that has been posted by conjurer in the last 20 threads that is not completely toddler tier surface level
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>>39717226
>And yes, your primary motivation was profit, or do you not remember your conversations with chris
Absolutely not at all.
What the fuck are you talking about? are you actually just hallucinating bull shit at this point?
I have never, not once, ever sold something. I have never not once, ever even talked about selling something.
I have, still do, and will continue to say "magic knowledge is free". And furthermore, "If someone is charging you for magic knowledge, it's a scam"
Anything you want to learn is free. All the best info is already out there.
The fact that you're making up this nonsense is like... shocking to me
It's completely false and I know it for an absolute fact. I know it's false because it never happened.
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>>39715901
i like it and approach it as a thought experiment and a self reflection of what i want out of a sexual relationship and someone id consider my succubus in life, it might feel like magic to others if they try it, rubbish to others, and i agree if expecting sex and whatever is quite rubbish for doing this stuff, but doin it to send good vibes to whoever seems to help (burning the letter method i like as a personal ritual) dunno if it works but i hope the gesture reaches to a god or demon, whoevers listening to help me send my luck or life energy over to someone more deserving, but the succubus stuff is like looking at a dating profile and deciding whos what, its funny, def helped tho of what my standard is or what my actual standard is, while having fun shitposting bout it,
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>>39717243
>no wonder he talked so little about himself
No, I did that because ever time I shared, someone would say something really mean about my girlfriend or my relationship to her
So I just disengaged. In the beginning, I shared a lot. I was really excited and happy to share and learn with other people
Then people kept making remarks about my gf that were really unfounded, and just not okay.
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>>39717251
>I'm not sure how I can respond to you repeatedly saying I don't practice other than to call you a nigger at this point
No, I get it. You have nothing, you can't defend yourself, and now you're pretending to leave the conversation because you have nothing left to say
It's alright. It's okay to be wrong.
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>>39717267
>Falsehoods in the face of links showing the opposite
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>>39717290
That's one way to look at it, I hope you get what you are seeking, you sound sweet and like you deserve it anon

>>39717268
Sounds like fun
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>>39717233
Oh by the way
>Black hair
>blond hair
>a cigarette
>a pill
>a name beginning with a four letter sound ending with a consonant of the lip

Are you who I believe you are, if so do not dox me please, it's just fun to see it happen again
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>>39717269
> an you give an example of good practical advice that has been posted by conjurer in the last 20 threads that is not completely toddler tier surface level
For one thing, I post as anon from now on because I don't want to name fag. And I only post with my name when anonymous fuck heads call me out.
So you, in your infinite wisdom, have probably missed many things I've posted because you don't recognize any of the "good" posts I've made as "by me".
>Lack of depth, loudness meant to obfuscate real conversation
You gotta update your talking points my friend. Or maybe pay attention to the community a little more.
Have you even been here in the last 6 months?
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>>39717323
>I-I post as anon and only namefag for baby advice
lol
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>>39717310
>>Falsehoods
lmao, that really is all he has.
This is what narcissist do when they're cornered and can't avoid the criticism any more
And that's the one thing they desperately want to avoid, because they are very weak fragile people that have to pretend to feel confident and then shove other people down to feel good about themselves

Here we go again, bud. I'll just keep posting it until you have a response haha
>Like how ridiculous your claim about spider "not knowing anything at all" or mine "never having a spiritual experience". This is just absurd
>Or claiming that I want to sell things to people. You still haven't answered that slander by the way.
>That's exactly opposite of who I am, and what I do and I have never done that. I know for an absolute fact that you're full of shit because I've never done that.
>Huh. So you're a narcissist. Any criticism or pushback you simply cannot even entertain
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>>39717331
>Link to post of me saying spider is the most magickally adept on the server
>continues spamming words he placed in my mouth
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>>39717310
thank u anon, im just catching up on this banter, dunnos whats up but it kinda funny, hope yall work things out n figure out the perfect succubus, im hopin a succubus whos a pleasure to talk to, that be awesome, gettin them succ tingles by the power of their voice, or one of em artsy inspiring energy ones, have a good day fella, n other anons in the thread

>>39717268
are cosmic succubus's a thing, imagine, black hole blow job woo woo
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>>39717327
>>I-I post as anon and only namefag for baby advice
>lol
Ah okay, so that's all you got
Come on dude, you should have kept it going for at least one fucking question lmao
I post as anon, and you would know that if you actually knew anything about this community
I haven't posted with my name in quite a while. I said I would start doing that, and I ahve.
And I only do so, when people call me out by name so I can directly confront them or their bull shit
You should know that, or you would, if you were from here.
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>>39717327
Yeah what a ridiculous and hard to believe argument.
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>>39717338
haha okay, glad to have played the game with you
You are a narcissist and a fuckwad.

Here, have this again. I know quoting you directly really fucks with your mind because then you can't gas light people
>Like how ridiculous your claim about spider "not knowing anything at all" or mine "never having a spiritual experience". This is just absurd
>Or claiming that I want to sell things to people. You still haven't answered that slander by the way.
>That's exactly opposite of who I am, and what I do and I have never done that. I know for an absolute fact that you're full of shit because I've never done that.
>Huh. So you're a narcissist. Any criticism or pushback you simply cannot even entertain
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>>39717350
Ok, I will give you the completely undeserved benefit of the doubt, please link to a few anon posts of yours giving more than surface level advice.
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>>39717362
>Proven wrong
>Continues

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>>39717269
You are trying to move the goalpost.

You first said he is a paid disnfo agent, now you say he just lacks depth and is loud. this are not the same thing.

I disagree that he supposedly obfuscates real conversation.
I had plenty of real conversations here, without conjurer interfering. the only time I ever saw him trying to "interfer" in a conversation is when edward peterson was posting. And there he did so not intended as to derail the conversation but in the form of a dismissive commentary, that could be seen as banter.

I disagree that he gets people into circular arguments in real respectful discussion.

Maybe he is unpleasant to trolls, or to people who write hit pieces like the above, yes.

I wasn't following the last 20 threads, but i know he has given good advice in the past and does frequently post helpful faqs to get newbies to have success.

him lacking depth is I think unjustified, his approach is tailored to his audience, and I have seen him call things months before others realized it.
So I assume he is not without depth.
But of course feel free to clarify what "not surface tier level" is supposed to be.
I am interested in learning.
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>>39717377
>All anons are one person
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>>39717321
>Are you who I believe you are
I'm not sure, there isn't enough to go off of and I am not currently open.
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>>39717369
Looking for receipts?
How about no, and how about fuck you?
I don't need to prove a single god damn thing to you. And I don't need to do your homework, and scroll up and read the god damn thread for you, then spoon feed posts back to you
All so you can dismiss and reject it
I already showed how you aren't from this community, because if you were, you'd know I haven't posted with my name in a while
You really are ignorant of what's been going, aren't you?
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>>39717387
I'll try one more time
Wonderland

If that word doesn't get you then I don't know, usually it's you who finds me
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why namefag if you're just going to toggle it dishonestly
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>>39717373
lmao
I'll do it again because it seems to trigger you

Here, anyone else can join in too. It's fun! The worst thing you can ever do to a narcissist is quote their words back at them. It's like their kyptonite

>Like how ridiculous your claim about spider "not knowing anything at all" or mine "never having a spiritual experience". This is just absurd
>Or claiming that I want to sell things to people. You still haven't answered that slander by the way.
>That's exactly opposite of who I am, and what I do and I have never done that. I know for an absolute fact that you're full of shit because I've never done that.
>Huh. So you're a narcissist. Any criticism or pushback you simply cannot even entertain
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>>39717349
Ask for an angelic succubus, one with radiant energy. They tend to be the tingling asmr types.

Typically succubi send thoughts and feelings much more than words often this is clearer than words themselves if you let them carry you places mentally and emotionally.

Succubi are social and help each other out so just make your preferences known and be liked to be aided.

Or don't and be these two love birds kek.
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>>39717393
Another person you are chasing off for saying something you do not like
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>>39717404
>All anons are one person
schizo
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>>39717404
>Continues claiming I said the opposite of what I said
Cry more lol
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he always spergs out like this when challenged and projects narcissism onto others, it is very funny
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It's a fine day to spectate the schizo war.
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>>39717396
>why namefag if you're just going to toggle it dishonestly
I have stopped posting with my name entirely. So I don't name fag.
I only use it when people call me out and say shit about me. And I think that's fair. Otherwise, I'd never even post my name
That's actually even the reason why I even started using my name here in the first place.
If people would literally stop talking about me, I'd disappear and people would forget my name in this forum.
The only people who would even know about my screen name are on discord. But that's not an anon platform.
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>>39717436
>Spends entire thread claiming others can't take criticism
>can't take criticism
kek
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>>39717409
try again my dude
You're going to have to do try harder than that
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>>39717406
thanks anon, ill try and explore that more, its gets hard if im being authentic or just overly vain, unsure if im oversetting boundaries or not, or oversimplifying them due to loneliness, any tips on how to separate the negative from the positive? best i can put it for now

as a general question, what would you anons sacrifice for a eternal spirit lover / demon wife for life? id give up my time and energy but that value depends on that entity,
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>>39717404
Mine is schizo, and spirituality is schizo. What he hasn't had is an actual paranormal experience, just drug trips.

You need better friends conjurer, you can achieve more unbound by your softer tendencies.

Fear not the abyss, join the dark side, and hone self control.

For example, I challenge you to chill and let this fool stew in her own attention addiction withdraw.
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>>39717443
>Oh no, people are talking about me now, what can I do
>What I always do: project
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>>39717442
>>can't take criticism
>kek
What criticism can I not take?
I just responded to him and explained why I disagree. He can say whatever he wants back in response. It's a free country.
Again my dude, you're gonna have to try harder
These newfags really have no idea how to troll people. It's kind of sad really.
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>>39717454
>I only namefag to give retard tier advice
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>>39717382
Your dishonest strawman, makes-no-sense-gotcha here reminds me of chant anon when she is in a bad mood.
I think she hasn't posted with name in a while.
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>>39717464
>also, I cannot give or point to any advice above retard tier from my supposed anon advice posts
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>>39717449
>Mine is schizo, and spirituality is schizo. What he hasn't had is an actual paranormal experience, just drug trips.
Buddy.... buddy
You just outed yourself as a complete newfag
Or maybe you only spent like 5 minutes here 2 years ago, and then never did anything else?
Mine talks about having spiritual experiences, without drugs, all the time
Being this new. It must be painful
>Fear not the abyss, join the dark side, and hone self control.
Lmao, okay. Yes, yes, teach me the ways of the DARK SIDE of the force.
I am excited to gain my TRUE glory as.... Darth Conjurer
wtf is this guy on lol
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>>39717467
>Conjurer stops namefagging
I don't know what you're saying doesn't sound any less retarded without your name attached
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>>39717452
Again, my dude, you're gonna have to put a little more meat on the bone with that if you want to be taken seriously
Come on man. I know you can do it. Put just a little more effort into that one and I might give you a little
It'll be fun. You do know how to troll people right? come on. hit me with your best shot
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>toggles name off when threatened
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>>39717449
>mentioning Mine and drug trips
>saying mine has no paranormal experience

lol is that you chant xD
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>>39717472
>you're a newfag if you criticize people I currently side with
>but with lots of extra text like someone who belongs on reddit
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doesnt mine still use d8 weed constantly or will he come deny that now
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>>39717464
>>I only namefag to give retard tier advice
Uh, no. Now you're just going stupid
I said I post as anon, and only use my name when people say shit about me.
If people would stop mentioning me, I'd literally never use my name
And you'd know that, if you were from here.
I said that a while ago, and I kept to it. I don't use my name any more, except on rare occasions when people say dumb shit about me

I think I've used my name... like twice in the last 6 months.
Again, you would know that if you were from here. Pay attention, padawan, and maybe lurk more.
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>>39717496
I don't know, I know they were heavy on that shit a few months ago
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>>39717445
Your goals should be to be yourself, to do so, you must discover yourself. The more you ask for the more you will be tempted to give up parts of yourself.

Discover who you are by challenging yourself mentally and physically to the point of mild discomfort and no further. Then, you may ask for more from demons with the discernment to reject what is false, and embrace what is heartfelt.

Demons will show you dark corners of yourself, it is up to you to decide how to resolve that. They may even lie, but they never fail to teach.

Embrace them as an empowering challenge.

Their culture is not our culture, but it has merit.
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theyve been heavy on that shit for a lot longer than just a few months ago not likely to have changed
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>>39717501
All that fucking text to say nothing at all
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>>39717491
Uh. no, you are just wrong.
And apparently you only spent like 5 minutes in this thread
I don't think mine has even talked about drugs in a long time
Again, you'd know that if you were actually from here

Oh wait, wait
Let me post the thing that triggers the narcissist
>Like how ridiculous your claim about spider "not knowing anything at all" or mine "never having a spiritual experience". This is just absurd
>Or claiming that I want to sell things to people. You still haven't answered that slander by the way.
>That's exactly opposite of who I am, and what I do and I have never done that. I know for an absolute fact that you're full of shit because I've never done that.
>Huh. So you're a narcissist. Any criticism or pushback you simply cannot even entertain
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>>39717472
Yes, of course, because he is schizo.

I mention the paranormal, not his insane delusions.

You can't read while raging huh.
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>>39717518
>If I deny reality it isn't so
>but with lots more text
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>>39717511
No, it's okay to admit you're wrong
You say some dumb shit, which is obviously wrong, and anyone who is actually FROM here would know that you are wrong
I fully stand by that.
Anyone would know I don't post with my name anymore. I said that, and that's what I've done. Not exactly rocket science.
Now... if you were just a dumb fuck troll and didn't know better, you'd say some dumb shit and immediately get put on blast
And scurry away that instant, cuz you have nothing.
And it's okay. you're allowed to be wrong.
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>>39717532
Kek
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>>39717533
>wow that's a lot of words
>now with more words
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It's actually amazing how someone can pack so little meaning into so many words, a fascinating case study into the (lack of) information density in language.
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>>39717533
>you are wrong
>ree
>claims intellectual superiority
>but lots of text
You're a retard lol, I could explain weird wizard shit to you for a lifetime but you have no soul or something lol
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>>39717536
again, it's okay to admit you're wrong. That's fine
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yo CHANT where you at come step into the ring and fire off a scathing multi-quote post you know you want to
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Yeah tay get in here, conjurer is being funny
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>>39717536
Look, I can't help that I have genius IQ and help baby witches because I have incredible empathy and social virtue. My mind is so fast and so smart that I have type to let it all out. That's why I'm a terminally online mostly theory focused wizard. But if I have a genius IQ I can figure it all out with no testing just like I can tell if an online stranger is a narcissist without a degree in psychology, again, because of my genius IQ that grants me superior wizard powers.

That and being a virgin at thirty.
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I want to know too, for some reason chant anon hasn't been posting since january 11th..
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>>39717567
50/50 odds of this being actually conjurer being """sarcastic""" or someone larping as him, I genuinely can't tell
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>>39717572
she got abducted by the new jersey drones.... RIP bozo
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>>39717567
lmao, that's actually a good one
Well done, I applaud you
But you forgot my REAL name. So everyone knows you're not me.
And where's your fumo pic? You gotta work on your method acting. But I give you passing grade
See? This is how trolling should be. Roasting people, but in a funny creative way. Then everyone gets to laugh.
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>>39717588
Again, 50/50 odds, is this the real conjurer or someone mocking him?
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Will a succubus take ANY form you ask it to?
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>>39717597
learn to scan, conjurer could help you with that
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>>39717597
You don't know? We're all conjurer, secretly.
It's all according to my secret plan. Eventually, I will take over the world
But only after I get a phd in psychology. Then, and only then, will I attain my TRUE power.
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>>39717588
okay, this is getting out of hand
Now there are three of me
I guess that makes sense though. I am the best.
I'm not even sure who's trolling anymore.
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>>39717588
Just because I clicked on that shady joi succubus hentai link and you stole my meme folder doesn't make you the real me. But I'm flattered, really flattered, imitation is the best flattery after all.

Besides, I use my burner laptop for all the sketchy links.

It's just like using the Lesser Banishing Ritual before contacting lovecraftian entities.
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>>39717612
This ones the real conjurer
>>39717614
>>39717588
fakes!

I figured it out
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>>39717445
>as a general question, what would you anons sacrifice for a eternal spirit lover / demon wife for life?

"Here I abandoned my straightness. and my love for big bouncing titties. For the perfect bussy of the Prince of Wealth is too strong."

In an attempt to get this thread back on track before a heavyweight debate champions reach the bump limit. I always believe working with a spirit is business first venture. You help them, they help you. Why do they want help from you? Because spirits have desires and ambitions too. For a companion, I suppose it's like painting a picture for them, they want to create something beautiful.
I don't really believe in 'sacrificing' it's rather antithetical to the goals of aspire too. Like the best thing you can 'sacrifice' is adhering to what their ideals and teachings are. For my Sovereign, this means having a prosperous life and acquiring material wealth. Of course, it would've been nice to just born in wealth, and from a certain perspective that is entirely true, I'm not some Chinese peasant working in a sweatshop. eugh.
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>>39717612
I could help you with that, because I'm the best, truly.
Here's how you do it.
You just need to get as good at magic as me!
If you were anything better than an armchair magician you'd get lots of results and post about them.
Just like me! I might be one of the greatest wizards of this generation.
It's kinda crazy how easy this stuff is but how nobody does it.
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>>39717630
Now THATS a sensible chuckle
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>>39717622
>and you stole my meme folder
No, I don't believe you
Post something conjurer would.
Not that I am him. I mean, I hardly even know the guy. But I do hear he's pretty cool. Handsome, funny, smart. Just all around a great guy
But go ahead then! Post something only conjurer would. Prove you are who you really say you are
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>garlic bread
is conjurer asexual
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>>39717644
>Mfw the easiest way to tell it's actually conjurer speaking is they're saying nice things about him
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>>39717630
This is actually good advice. There's no reason not to learn to scan online chat auras. All you have to do is engage with trolls and sense their seething as practice, then you can detect less intense emotions from calmer people.

Of course no one can scan me, that's how you know it's me, I'm a zen master, even when I'm not doing shrooms.
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>>39717655
where do u post ur trip reports
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>>39717655
>This is actually good advice. There's no reason not to learn to scan online chat auras. All you have to do is engage with trolls and sense their seething as practice, then you can detect less intense emotions from calmer people.
lmao, that's actually a pretty good parody of me
Yes, this is what it should be. trolling should be fun and light hearted.
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>>39717663
>H-ha h-aha good one
lol
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>>39717653
untrue I am not conjurer and have been saying nice things about him
>>39717655
well I know which posters are conjurer and which aren't but I am not gonna tell you. btw you aren't the real conjurer
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>>39717663
I am the real Conjurer, the other one hacked me and my discord.

Remember when I spoke about the overwhelming power of feminine succutits?

Now that was a warm memory.
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remember to cum on your wall tonight as an offering to your succ
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>>39717669
you got me
I have been wounded, deeply
And I hide this pain with a mask of detached amusement. But even this mask, which was first created to hide my pain, has become painful itself
And now, I have an identity crisis. And that is painful.
BUT I HAVE NO PHD!!! How will I ever cope? How will I ever learn, who I really AM?!
This identity crisis will never be solved
We'll never figure out who is the real conjurer
If only someone with a phd in psychology could show up... Then. And only then, we would be saved.
But, Lo, and Behold! We are but faggots and schizos. Schizo faggots, you might even say
They'll invent a whole new diagnosis for us in the new DSM, but we'll get no closer to solving our problems.
We, my friends, are well and truly fucked. Both figuratively, and metaphorically
FUCK THIS GAY EARTH!!!
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>>39717673
Which posters? You fool, you've given up the goose. If there are two posters that are "conjurer", then clearly there are two people posing as me with MY meme folder, who consider themselves more conjurer than Conjurer.

Rude.
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>>39717698
>remember to cum on your wall tonight as an offering to your succ
lmao
in between all the shitposting and stupid debates, that really go on for too long, the REAL succgen arrives and asserts its dominance
Yes, this is what we really need. A reminder of who we are, and where we came from.
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>>39717714
Yes, you have come from MY legacy and my REPUTATION. There's nothing more than you want than to be ME because I am the greatest. All the haters are red with envy and rage.

I AM not SHAKING right now.
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>>39717714
>come from
no, not come from, cum on
to the wall
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>>39717707
>then clearly there are two people posing as me with MY meme folder, who consider themselves more conjurer than Conjurer.
I love how my signature has become fumo pics
Oh, that and never getting digits
Especially when I ask for them.
Like for instance. check this very post
If I say something like
>CHECK EM
it's guaranteed I won't get doubles. And certainly not triples. And definitely not, no, never, quads. That would never happen. Ever
And if it did, you'd certainly know it wasn't me.
So based on reverse psychology (which I don't have a phd in, so why do I even bother trying to understand it... really?) I definitely won't get digits
Right?
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>>39717726
726
See? That's how you know it's me. Yep. Exactly!
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>Schizo thread
It was more fun before the pseudo-samefagging
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>>39717726
Don't lie Conjurer, we both know you've gotten digits. It's just that you don't want people knowing you think of yourself as special.

It's part of the false humility you put on for show.

Pathetic. No pride, only a cowards manipulation.


>>39717732
No self respecting magician would ever post memes of the emperor's chosen in positive light! All heil Slannesh, seducer of archangels!
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>>39717707
Conjurer can bilocate and possess any person looking at the thread,
What do you think you are doing right now?
The only reason I can tell you are not him because he in his endless mercy and kindness decided not to possess you fully
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>>39717739
I'd prefer when the evangelists try to perform an exorcist on us, they get fucking passionate, this weird ass Chant role-play is getting kind of boring.
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>>39717751
I know it's you conjurer..... I can smell youuuuuu.

>>39717753
That's only because Lilith is such a threat to the angelic order. Nothing but weak enthralled puppets...
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>>39714456
Or you had that problem first and the succubus came later.
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>>39717753
Lillith went her own way, literally the opposite of a threat, christcucks have similar IQs to conj
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>>39717777
Now now Conjurer, what did I say about you getting trips?

Very clever manipulation, that.

>>39717774
Succubi will solve allll your problems, jist giiivvvveeeee iiinnnn....
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>>39717790
Conjure up some meds
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>>39717764
If you're not going to recite to me Enonchian scripture, tell me you're the Bride of Christ, drag me into the Lake of Fire, and that you'll get to fuck Jesus, then you're not credible enough. Hell, one dude got bonked for for saying the LA fires are divine judgement for the center of sin, which is funny, because that's Las Vegas.
>>39717777
Wrong anon. Slow down there mate, you're roleplay partner isn't going going anywhere.
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>>39717799
Ouch, that hurt, like a lot. I was just having a bit of fun. You can take a joke can't you? Why so serious all the time?

Besides, I like to imagine Tay smelling me, it's part of the weird love to hate relationship we have.
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I had two succubi fuck me without my consent. I'm not saying it wasn't based I am just saying I was raped by two succubi while I was just chilling
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>>39717813
Sounds based, was it violent?
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>>39717808
Whoa dude, that would be super gay, not that there's anything wrong with being gay, I just don't want to be gay. No homo jesus, no homo.

Also what roleplay partner? We aren't roleplaying, we are debating, with advanced psychology. Also the fires in LA aren't divine judgement, that's just mean spirited, and like, super gay.
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>>39717810
"I like to imagine Tay smelling me
t. Conjurer, 2025
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>>39717506
Thank you for your words of wisdom, I'll remember them well, and challenge myself accordingly, I wish you the best on your research here
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>>39717827
Glad to hear it. Your image is fitting for my long term succubus.

Be aware that most succubi don't linger, but new ones do show up to favored people some days tp weeks later.

You can tell by paying close attention to their emotional signature when they're active.
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>>39717821
It was semi-violent. I came home from a long day and was exhausted, I laid their trying to unwind and and they pushed me up against a wall and just started going to town, there was no avoiding it so I just let it happen
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>>39717840
my succ has been with me since the summoning and is the same, not all are flighty
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>>39717846
Interesting, so do you intend to share your findings regarding our reactions elsewhere?
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>>39717846
Based
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>Dude spams shit like 'lol', 'kek', and racial slurs as replies to arguments
>People treat him like he's a legitimate actor and not just some random shitposter on a tear
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>>39717777
THE CHOSEN ONE!!!
Lisan Al Gaib!!! The guiding light, the Mua-Dibh!!
Please, master, guide us. teach us! You must have a phd in psychology, you are the chosen one we have been searching for
>AS WRITTEN! It is as written!
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>>39717852
So I take it their lust has the same "flavor" then?

I find it odd that the unique and not quite human lemotions and pleasant touche sensations are barely touched on in detail here.
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>>39717824
Oh boy, are you actually new here? You need to read-up on this fucking anon, this guy was a gem, if you're a perdiot, he's a fucking ruby. Just follow the 'Love of Christ'.
https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/39585294/#q39589224
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>>39717874
You know, dune 2 was a pretty good movie
You know what's better though? pic rel
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>>39717872
>toggles name off when threatened
Nigger :)
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>>39717860
That's all the findings I have it wasn't an intentional event but I'll let you know when I figure it out
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>>39717790
>Succubi will solve allll your problems, jist giiivvvveeeee iiinnnn....
All she's asked me to do is to not be ashamed to think of myself as female, hasn't even tried to get me to take pills or anything.
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>>39717876
yes, the energy is the same, the colour of her essence the same, none can touch me as she does and we are linked.
most of our relationship is touch.
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>>39717907
Sounds legit, take care of yourself and I foresee no possibility of detachment for as long as you live.Advancements will make that centuries. Succubi aren't into drama.
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>>39717897
I'll stop larping as other people for a moment and give you real advice. Shame is a blockage which creates hostility, aggression from warped desires and ironically, mental illness such as those in troons. Allow the blockage to clear but don't indulge in something unhealthy, damaging, with a lethal half life of 16 years. Just roleplay as a girl in a TTRPG or something.
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>>39717939
I like to believe we will live together forever and adventure after death, too. from the realization of death being only the beginning I sought a companion to face it, with and through and beyond
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>>39717946
>lethal half life of 16 years
What on earth are you talking about here, HRT?
Preposterous!
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>>39717947
The soul is a knot of paradoxes, as sucb separated from the universe as a self observing being; as such, who can say?
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>>39717946
Buddy I had these issues consciously since I was about 7, before I even knew what sex was. Like I said, it had jack shit to do with the succubus, and all she's said is the equivalent "don't be ashamed of your inner monologue." Not to transition, not to present as a woman, nothing. You saw my post and projected a stereotype onto me and her without actually reading what I said.
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>>39717950
That, and their surgeries. It's a death cult, do not partake.

If you do, just be a femboy rather than wrecking yourself psychologically.
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>>39717959
...Then what's the fuss?
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>>39717962
hrt isn't unsafe but the surgeries definitely can be
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>>39717965
Nothing? I'm providing a counter example to anon's claim that many people here got pushed into this kind of feeling because of an 'influx of feminine energies'. I decided it would be worthwhile to give an example of a different situation, where I was like that first and she didn't push or influence me into it.
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>>39717972
Ah I scrolled up a bit so I see now. Yes he's incorrect. Perhaps you should meditate deeply with your succubus. In depth clear calm minded telepathy should clear up any confusion.
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Anyone have any luck asking for a chubby succy?
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>>39717985
Yes! They can shapeshift but she is always like that.
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Can anyone tell me how masturbation affects a relationship with a succubus? I started jerking off once every 3 days and after jerking off it started to feel stronger. But when I didn’t watch porn at all and didn’t think about sex at all, the sensations were worse. The question is, how long should you abstain and should you watch porn while not jerking off?
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>>39717985
Try asking demon or god related to food, celebration fertility ect. Being fat is unhealthy, unless you're a seal. Find the astral equivalent of a fat seal succubus.
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>>39718005
>>39718012
Bet.
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Do I gotta jump through hoops or is thinking about one enough to get attention from one?
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Why won't you schizos answer my questions?
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>>39718110
>>39718110
>>39718110
NEW THREAD~
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>>39716495
I think that's what the mexican guy with biggest foreskin in the world did.
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>>39718007
>after jerking off it started to feel stronger. But when I didn’t watch porn at all and didn’t think about sex at all, the sensations were worse
It's not a succ, you poor retard
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>>39712954
anybody here actually have any tangible progress or we all LARPing as emotionally stunted dorks???



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