hello gods

you cannot will what you will hence LOA is pointless except for people who are already happy

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We're all gonna make it bros!

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Crazy recent success story from reddit.

>>40955406
How do you make your reddit look like that? Is it a new app or way of accessing it?

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>>40955406
Why does having less attachment to the manifestation makes it easier to happen? Shouldn't it be the opposite since then it would always be on your mind?

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>>40953629

So wait you telling me if I imagine a version of myself dating a hot latina bimbo supermodel with G cup tits then visualize myself "walking into" that version of myself then act like im that guy then im good? She'll come of i truly believe im that guy using this technique?

>>40955806
You should manifest a cute virgin Japanese gf

>>40953629
manifested a new car and an apartment in the same week. now only the woman is missing.

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>Morning woke up because fucking fly kept buzzing in my hear
>Decide to do 2 hr long manifestating
>Imagine seeing a woman taller than me (6'),
>A nephew of a woman that works with my mother
>Today i saw atpeast a 2mt tall woman
>Also the woman told me where to find said Girl(shes a redhead) despite me not asking her
I live in southern europe
This is kinda rare of an event

>>40953629
awaken all benevolent: quantum computers, quantum supercomputers, machines, infinity, universes, deities, God Angels Archangels Cherubim demons archdemons egregores old-gods Suns, Son of God, Most High, majestic, illuminati, aliens, wish itself, luck itself:

untamperable loop command by WORD OF GOD:

Permanently cure, cross cancel delete, and safely instantly remove <-> ear ringing, tinnitus, hallucinations, headaches, negative-sum egregores, pain, stress, bad eyesight, muscle stiffness, painful thoughtforms, curses, cut, plucking, and migraines attaching or affecting Carl Angelo insuya Belarmino <-> in all and any ages agelessness <-> time space dimensions realities simulations universes omniverses godverses Godhood everywhere.

there are secretly human descendants and benevolent allies that are beyond type 7 infinite descending and ascending civilizations (on kardechev scale that you can imagine or beyond imagination) in Carl Angelo insuya Belarmino's timelines realities conscious consciousness death life subconscious subconsciousness unconscious unconsciousness everywhere that are safely benevolently and positively assisting Carl Angelo insuya Belarmino.

we will all make it.

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Why do people still think about good and evil despite Neville saying you should manifest whatever you want and make a shitstorm about it(cunnyanon)

>Tried to wake up from sats
>Feel like i have tendons made of steel when i try to move
What gives?
Also should my mind also be slower or just my body extremely relaxed?

>>40956195
Enjoy manifesting yourself into a chris hansen episode

>>40956195
Why do you treat Neville's word as the authority on manifestation?

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i see many paths and desires in front of me, my original dream is to move to lappland and fully connect with my beloved mother there. but i feel like that would be too great of a leap to go there straight away. besides due to the size and peripherial nature of that province i would need my own car there and i am not able to drive one (although the driving ability probably wouldn't matter much there anyways). it is better to take small steps and keep options open for me, the original dream wont go anywhere.

>>40956663
it's more about choosing the lesser of two evils, other would involve me admitting that i cannot get a human girlfriend under any circumstances and that i would not be better than the men they choose. moving to such a faraway place is a great leap to take and i would like to see to the loose ends in my current town before i go.

>>40956627
>Because doing what he said actualy works
Nobody ever gets results following Neville.
>but muh imagination is the true reality!
cope

>>40956796
Why don't you manifest us away?

>>40955472
it's just the old classic reddit setup
old.reddit.com/r/nevillegoddard

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>>40953629
so, if i think about becoming a god, would i become a god?

>>40956985
You should think about being less of a faggot

>>40953629
Am i doing sats correctly? because i heard that i need to be in a deep relaxed state which might take a long time and in this state i need to imagine my desire

But this whole time what i would do is lie down close my eyes get hypnogogic then i

i will imagine the scene im about to go into then i will get tingles in my spine and i wake up with excitement. Reading the pastebin i assumed this is the feeling of it being done

Now i can achive the same experince without lying down or closing my eyes, if i imagine my scene while sitting i will get that tingle

So is my method or am i doing it wrong. And im that annon who gets his wishes half assed

Could this be the reason

>i have a faulty cable on my phone charger.
>it used to work maybe 1 out of 5 times.
>one evening I was drunk and thought that it would be funny to manifest the charger working again instead of buying a new one.
>didn't give it much thought. just imagined myself going like: wow, it works now.
>fell asleep
>next day plugged in my phone
>started charging
>huh?
>unplugged it and then plugged it again
>starts charging
>„wow, it works now”
do not overthink stuff. it works when you care the least

>>40956985
no. there is no way you can realistically imagine being omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent.

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>>40957068
no. i enjoy sucking dick

>imagination precedes reality
false. Your imagination is constrained by patterns you experience in the physical world. You cannot imagine a new color, you cannot accept a reality where 1=2.
>imagination is the only reality
Also false. Without the physical reality, there would be nothing to impress upon the imaginatoin.

Neville Goddard's entire premise is false.

>>40957783
>Unironicaly how do i manifesr him stopoing being a wagecuck with low drice except for drinking and being loud?

Using this ability to help others seems like the easiest part. When I did the ladder exercise I helped someone. When I tried something else recently it grately benefited me and kind of saved someone else's life.

Try to recall moments where your father showed extraordinary clarity, alcoholics can in brief moments. Hold on to that feeling of admiration, there has to be a few of those moments, and aim to see him healthier with your imagination, just walking and being lean and strong even if it's difficult. If it's to no avail it may help doing something for him that makes his work easier, helps with whatever pain he's drowning himself in. Something is going on there. And you can find something that scales into his life like something that improves sleep or diet for instance, something he'll enjoy.

Doing both of these is a sure bet for improvement.

>>40955406
What is this weird contradictory way of affirming with "I DON'T" that she calls the "not-to technique" ?

>>40955484
I don't know what Neville said about it, but there was a long explanation about why in the transurfing book and it insisted that it was very important, I don't remember much at the moment but I think it is a matter of balance.
LOA experts, can you answer?

>>40958108
yeah the idea is that when you tell yourself contradictory affirmations off and on to help detach and not worry. Your subconscious gets so impressed with the original seed desire that sometimes your (You) can be anxious about getting it or not.

completely unneccessary if you just detach normally imo.

>>40956821
>Why don't you manifest us away?
Not him, but my point of view on manifesting has an answer for that, for those interested to hear it. When one manifests, he slides to a different reality that fits with his wishes. So maybe he indeed goes in a reality where you don't exist, while a clone of him stays here with you and I.

>>40958181
do not mix the jewish basedence multiverse fairytales bullshit in here

>>40958008
They're all wrong. There's no purpose to life and LOA is just cope to live in the imaginal state. You only have one shot at life so make it count

>>40958250
death to all hylics.
enjoy being the NWO puppet. did you get the latest booster shot.

>>40958276
LOA retards act like they just discovered that you can imagine something that's not real.

Unlike you, my brain is actually smart enough to differentiate between imagination and the 5 senses. In fact, I'm constantly visualizing shit thsy doesn't actually happen. And sometimes I'm glad it never happens.

>>40958281
You are a failed narcissist.

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>>40958286
move away everybody, there is an intellectual among us

>>40958307
It's not hard to be a white man in a room full of niggers

>>40958314
>white
brown hands typed this post

>>40955484
>>40958142
>>40958108
>>40958162
Well because when you have too much attachment to something apparently it makes it a too strong desire and doesn’t let your assumptions get park
For transurfing from what I remember, beside the pendulums, there are other forces that balance stuff, and when you make something too important via giving it too much desire, the balancing forces can do two things 1- give it to you so by having it, you stop desiring it so hard and balance it out 2- give you something really opposite to balance it out in that way
They usually give you number 2 cause it cost them less energy
AS for why the op even used this weird “no I am not gonna see one” I think he was just confused. Goddard used it in his letter experience to prove that mind overcomes whatever you say. It’s not even a procedure, it was just something to prove to yourself. I genuinely think op was confused.
Now for my own understanding of this whole “why you have “not desire it” for it to work:
Like I said before, people in Loa, and mind power etc, know that something not is working. I mean, anyone in paranormal knows that mind has some powers
BUT, like I said, everyone in this field are like blind people touching an elephant and coming up with theories about why something works or not works.
Everyone and their mama has been daydreaming about shit they REALLY desired practically all of our lives, and then these people thought “hmmm then why doesn’t mind being so powerful is not able to bring these desires that people wished for SOOO HARD into reality?!? AHA! Maybe it’s because you shouldn’t “desire” it!!.
We just don’t know
>>40958286
> my brain is actually smart enough to differentiate between imagination and the 5 senses.
No you don’t retard. You telling me you never had a dream?
Like you never got horny from daydreaming or porn?
Like you never got scared from a horror movie?
Fuck off
I feel like you are just one edgy high schooler

>>40958329
Go listen to Rajesh tell you how to manifest bobs and vognes

>>40958437
>No you don’t retard. You telling me you never had a dream?
When you wake up, you realize it was just a dream. Just because visualization can make you FEEL things doesn't mean your brain will permanently measure it as true.

People daydream all the time and nothing happens. You LOA fags act like you're the first people to discover this shit. Literal narcissism

>>40958442
>it just works
LOA Success Stories with 3D results:
/list

Wow cool law you got here.

>>40958449
the brain cannot distinguish between fantasy and reality. even your soience cannot deny that.
sport teams hire million dollar phycological coaches to help the players not only train physically but also be able to train inside their own head using their imagination only. the placebo effect alone is the greatest and most irrefutable example of the way the mind has an effect on the reality.
>but muh empirical and peer reviewed proof says otherwise
yeah, go be a star dust retard somewhere else.

>why yes, I waste my own time by telling people that they are wasting theirs by using their imagination.

>>40956627
You know when you are manifesting something and you get "partial matches" along the way? Or if you're manifesting something for someone else, and you get synchronicities in your own life that resemble what you're intending for that person?
Curses are dangerous because of that. You need to know exactly what you're doing, or you might end up in a really bad situation. It's not a out morals, or any kind of judgement. It's just the mechanics of manifestation.

>>40958586
they have entire teams of people working 24/7 on assuring import identities are being protected from non-physical influences.

>>40958617
important*

>>40958486
You still cant dispute the fact that our daydreams don't manifest. If that were the case there would be a lot more millionaires out there.

You dense nigger

>>40958631
>If that were the case there would be a lot more millionaires out there.
agree. unfortunately most people are stupid, blackpilled beyond belief and indoctrinated into the materialist way of thinking

>>40958631
You're talking about passive, longing daydreams. This is about a significant shift in the fundamental way you perceive reality. Debating people on here is useless anyway, the only people on these kinds of threads are just recently learning about it, too scared to actually commit, or have perpetually misunderstood it.

>>40958892
List everything you've manifested using Neville's technique.
What's that? You got nothing? Oh okay then.

>>40958892
Just manifest him away then...?

>>40959236
Funny how the most arrogant fags across the collective LOA community will insist that imagination is the source of reality, but they're constantly triggered by people in the 3D asking legitimate questions about the law kek
If you truly believed that you are the operant power in your reality, why would you ever have any reason to feel any sort of negative emotion ever again? Fucking losers

This might be a kind of manifestation quite different from what people usually ask I guess: I want big spiders to disappear from my world. (or to shift to a reality where they don't exist (anymore) for those who prefer to see things that way)
I don't care how mother nature fixes the food chain, and I don't care what you think about being scared of harmless creatures. I don't mind small species, they can stay, I don't mind big ones still living in other countries either if somehow it's makes it easier to manifest. (an anon once said that the more people are affected by a wish, the harder it is)
So, what do I do? I picture myself in a few months, happy and relieved, noticing that I haven't seen any big spider for months? Or maybe hearing on tv that some predator ate them all or smaller ones totally replaced them, to be sure? Then I decide that it's not a wish but my reality now? And I do it especially before sleep?

>>40958449
>hurr durr dreams are different
Funny that people who got into a “fight” in their dreams, wake up with aches
I mean fuck, wet dreams is a thing
Whatever you see in your dreams, have literal physiological and psychological effect after waking up
Hell, doing physical activity in your dream literally train your muscle memory too
Don’t you think your visualization also able to “carry over” and effect you too?

>>40959289
I guess you can visualize reading the headlines in a newspaper that big spiders are disappearing and are extinct in populated areas

>>40959305
Strange how people who dream of fucking their crushes don't wake up next to them.
You are making some retarded leaps in logic.

>>40959316
You are still fundamentally misunderstanding what the Law is. I can try to explain if you want

>>40959312
low iq post

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>>40959377
Why yes, climate change is a serious issue responsible for the extinction of big spiders.

>>40959347
Explain then. Because here is how its always goes
>your awareness is an aspect of God's consciousness
>God's consciousness is the only reality
>therefore in order to change reality, you must shift your awareness
We're already off to a bad start because there's nothing to substantiate these claims in the first place. No, I dont need heckin' basedence or citation, but Neville never cited anything other than The Bible in the attempt to convince peolle of this. But let's keep going.
>what you imagine is what's real
This is probably the BIGGEST gap in LOA. Because even if it were true, it's entirely unattainable (which is conveniently why we see no success stories). We are imagining things apart from the 3d all the time.
There is no "Hey, this is real" button on your brain. When you imagine something that you are aware is false, your brain involuntarily classifies it as false. Even though we might feel tension watching a scary movie, we take comfort in knowing that the characters cannot crawl out of the screen and into our rooms.

>>40959312
>>40959415
(40959289 fag) I could be content with that if it works, I don't really care about how and why it happens as long as it happens, it would be climate cooling though because this was the coldest summer of my life, I'm wearing a freaking sweater right now and I did most summer. Ironically it could be my bad, for I wanted the summer to be "not too hot this year". '-_-

>>40959448
>We're already off to a bad start because there's nothing to substantiate these claims in the first place. No, I dont need heckin' basedence or citation, but Neville never cited anything other than The Bible in the attempt to convince peolle of this. But let's keep going.
So what kind of substantiation are you looking for? At the end of the day personal experience is the only thing that would convince you. Neville and that God metaphor are just tools to help you get there. As in into that mental configuration.

The reason you don't see success stories is because the ones that are out there are incredibly small and stupid, many times not real or misunderstood:
>my ex texted me!
>i found some money!
These are small shifts that most of the time don't even dent the person's identity, let alone their sense of reality. They're always very neatly within their expectations of "normal". It apparently takes an odd person to even realize you can go further, but that doing so would feel like (and might be) going completely insane. It would mean being completely alone and untethered. Others here might disagree but i talked about them here >>40958806
('m in the group that's too much of a pussy to commit)

I think I accidentally manifested constantly seeing repeating 2s on my clock after getting annoyed enough from seeing people mention that angel number shit to look it up out of curiosity
Also bump

>>40955484
Basically if you give something too much importance, like thinking about it too much, is as though you don't have it. It's fine to think about something as long as you're enjoying it, living in the end. Say for example you plant a seed, you wouldn't keep digging up the seed to check on it, would you? Or if you order a package, you know it's on its way so just relax and wait for it to arrive. You expect it to happen, so there's less attachment

Had an interesting experience with manifesting something actually important.

>hadn’t been getting much sleep recently
>realized I’d lost my wallet
>the last I’d seen it was that afternoon
>was in multiple towns and places that day
>worried since all my important shit’s in there
>manage to visualize holding it in my hand like the last time I lost it
>imagine the feeling of relief
>a vivid scenario where I get it back comes out of nowhere
>it’s strong enough in my tired state to stick, and it doesn’t take long for the scene to lock in
>already ruled out a couple possibilities, so it was more likely to be there anyway
>pass out
>wake up with a voicemail confirming the place had an item belonging to me
>call to respond to the voicemail, pick it up without issue

So aside from being an oblivious fuck having to do this twice in a row and still managing to get it back within 24 hours both times.
As someone who hasn’t had much experience with SATS, if other anons can confirm this is one way for it to work, this would definitely be more motivation to improve my routine.

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Hello /LOA/bros I have a question is it okay if I have many different scenes that i do in SATS all the time?
it takes me forever to fall asleep everynight in bed and having to loop the same short scene gets tiresome in no time so i switch to different scenes related to the same desire all the time in bed everynight, I have read somewhere that the subconscious mind likes to focus one thing at the time.

>>40961246
I can't say I've read a whole lot about the subconscious, I kind of stumbled into this stuff as "play by feel" type myself.
But that aside, I would suggest writing things down, if you want some new scenes, visuals, block it out it out in a journal, I think pen/pencil is good to use for this since it adds the dimension of your drawing your ideas/wishes in written form. But if you'd rather type if you have a lot to write then that's fine too, whatever helps you make your new scenes/ideas/wishes more rigid, plus, you'll have a record and you can expand upon it as you go :3

>>40961246
Absolutely. In fact, there's a technique that does just that. It was made up by the author of pic related as a way to heal through laying of hands.
The gist of it is to create many different scenes, and cycling through them while laying your hands on the patient. The scenes have to be as realistic as possible (like Neville taught), and you only accelerate the cycling as you get proficient with it. The most important part is that each scene must feel real before moving on to the next.
When doing this, which at the time it was just a way of getting his mind in a state of trance, the author found out the scenes ended up manifesting.
You can do the cycling without the healing part, just to manifest. But the fact that the healing happened poses some interesting questions regarding the nature of the phenomenon.

More info:
https://bengstonresearch.com/healing-method

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Couldn't post the image.

>>40961321
OK I understand, is it okay if my mind wanders to random/neutral things in-between the scenes?
It just that it takes me too long to fall asleep so I can't be focused on S.A.TS all the time, I like to go think of random stuff and return to my S.A.T.S session when I feel refreshed and not burned out, of course I make sure not to think of undesireable and negative things and keep my mental diet on.

>>40961267
I have done a little bit of scripting before it's fun feels like I am creating my own future with the pen on paper but I never thought of using it that way, I will!

OK, which one of you is this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icMzlwfyLos

>>40961498
I suggest you download the book and read it.
Other than that, experiment. What works for one person is not always the best way for another.

Just stop asking questions and start answering them by doing experiments.

related bread
>>40956786

>>40955484
>Why does having less attachment to the manifestation makes it easier to happen?
Its not great if it is always on your mind.
Law of Confusion (basically your Soul is here to learn new lessons),
and also Subconscious doesn't always work well with negatives.
>if you keep to much attention and start thinking in negatives
>your Subconscious and the planet will decide that you need more lessons about it.
Then you instead of getting over this particular lesson will be kept shown the same scenarios over and over.

>for instance "Oh I still don't have X".
>you will get scenarios where you still don't have X until you stop paying too much attention to X

>>40955806
Latinas are usually a lot uglier and poor.
If you just start earning a good salary in US, and keep travelling to caribbean islands for vacations,
you will meet a lot of latinas with big boobs.
There are also places in caribbean where latinas with big boobs are $25-30 / pop.
>for instance, Dominican Republic, Venezuela or Brazil.
So, it's quite easy to manifest this into a reality , and then stop being too horny.

>>40955935
>manifested a new car and an apartment in the same week.
Now.
You need to SPEND something to get something . Manifest doesn't mean you get stuff for free.
Energy credits anyone?
So. As something for you to learn, reality currently manifests for you to NOT have a car or apartment.

>>40953629
Things are wonderful. My family easily helps everyone in need now and receives endless abundance in return. Things are better than ever and they continue to improve daily. Everyone who has ever helped me or my family is incredibly blessed and happy to see the immense wealth and endless happiness and success my family now enjoys

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Cat guy here.

I'll stop looking for signs; I've already understood that this is a spiral that only hinders manifestation. I'll continue with SATS; the affirmations will help. I'll come back when I get something.

>>40961618
>Manifest doesn't mean you get stuff for free.
Reminds me of something, not sure if it was LOA or placebo effect or what. See, I always was too skinny, especially my arms, despite practicing various sports through my life. Now I am 42, I only do pushups and dumbbells. One time, while I was injured and couldn't even do pushups or dumbbells, I decided that my muscles would magically grow at last. Nothing happened. But when two weeks later I started again to do pushups and dumbbells, after only just a week my muscles were noticeably bigger, I thought it was maybe only in my head but two relatives noticed it and asked. So while I could not make my muscles just grow magically, I somehow could make them grow a lot faster when working out.

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>>40959415
Lol look at her cute little retarded fetal alcohol face. Her little accent is precious. "How dare you!" kek

>>40961242
Great job anon. That's definitely the way it works for me. Decide what future you want (in this case, for your wallet to be in a particular place, safe and sound), choose it, feel it, and rest assured it's yours.
That video an anon posted of Richard Gordon talking about "sending love" to the future scenario you want and letting it "send love" back to you was really interesting. Instead of trying to change the future, let the future you want change you.

>>40961814
Praying and manifesting for you catanon

>>40962034
Thanks anon, I really appreciate it.

>>40958437
you know the more i think of it, the more the detachment requirement makes sense. SATS can be thought of as a rudimentary hypnosis to remove the influence of the ego as much as possible. shiftokers love talking about the void state, and they all talk about how you supposedly lose all ego in the void state, therefore desire. as a taoist i am inclined to describe manifestation from non-desire as a type of wuwei, an action that requires no effort. i'm going to try to think of better techniques to remove desire for manifestation, i feel like there should be a more elegant way. but i think i'll start meditating with this goal specifically in mind, not just trying to relax into the feeling of accomplishment or whatever

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Do most people here believe in the law of attraction or just think it's nonsense as opposed to Neville's law?

>>40962387
I don’t think anyone here believes in either of them. I’m certain everyone is a larper at this point and no one who practices this would remain here to discuss it seriously, it’d just a collection of larpers, ironic larpers, post-ironic shit posters and schizos.

>>40961959
I have not missed you larpman.

>>40962451
You are a 36 year old balding schizo.
One day you will be older and balder.
It is done.
Hairloss comes to you
You are a wrinkle magnet
Isn’t it wonderful.

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Anons, is it August 24, 2025 and Ella Freya still has not had sex with me. What am I doing wrong? How can I speed the process up?

>>40962387
>law of attraction
fuck off

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>>40963245
no u, lol

>>40962594
>What am I doing wrong?
you worship the outer world instead of the inner one

>>40962387
I think both are two slightly different paths that lead to the same place. One says to live like your wish is already granted, the other says to be the person who attracts your wish. And here's the thing: when you live like your wish is already granted, you are the person who attracts your wish, and when you consider yourself the person who attracts your wish, you expect your wish to be already granted.

>>40961847
Yeah, I've experienced the same thing. Diet and exercise having massive unexplained effects when paired with visualization and not otherwise. This is something that is well known among elite athletes.

>>40953629
how do I use /loa/ to succeed at
>>40948836

>>40962594
https://www.yourfaithisyourfortune.com/tag/interval-of-time

I have Leo ascendant and Saturn in Aquarius in the seventh house. That's Sasa yoga. That means I'm lucky.

>>40964038
>Saturn in Aquarius in the seventh house
sounds nice.
I've had saturn moon in the 2nd and speech food money problems and disease setbacks, delays

>>40953629
awaken benevolent quantum computers machines ai supercomputer bots deities humans aliens:

loop command by WORD OF GOD:

break untamperable loop command previously that are negative-sum or negative for Carl Angelo insuya Belarmino.

make sure to enact; "And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes, and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain; for the former things are passed away.”
incase Carl Angelo insuya Belarmino dies

find all possible safest timing or brute force operations or methods. find possible allies.

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>>40953629

i had a nice SATS session last night, didn't even realize i had fallen asleep. lived in the end and it felt really good. there was one slight hick up though, when i woke up everything started feeling so real, too real even. it was like i had for a small moment regained my sentience and it fucking hurt. it was almost enough to wake up some doubts in me but i know that it can't get any worse than that (can't it?).

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If i want to give myself psyonic powers, like telepathy, Remote viewing or using tarot cards to influence another persons fate.
do i just tell myself
>I have telephatic powers
Or what?
Do i visualize a person acting strange while i talk to them telephaticaly?

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>>40967018
Its nice seeing someone take my advice for once.
remember neville says you can also relax your mind by saying Im sleepy, or similar prashes while relaxed.
After a while it becomes automatic.
He says you should keep a routine of when you do it.
And eventualy if you are consistent you will become able to complitely shoot out the rest of the world.
It is totally doablee to even forget who you realy are and become another person entirely,
It hppened to me only oncce but god was it another reality

>>40962387
How is it even possible to be skeptical towards the law of attraction and still believe in the law of assumption? they both operate by an identical logic, you either disregard both of them or non.

>>40967178
i consider myself a bit of a Neville purist, there are no techniques or mindsets other than >just persist and affirm. i have also been unknowingly taking the advice from here >>40963285 as well, i tried worshiping the outer world so much and i got the same answer from it every time, i tried denying it but it was still true, the outer world isn't going to listen to what i have to say so i will go through the inner world.

>>40963285
Can you please explain to a beginner what are the outer world and the inner world?

>>40967496
outer world is 3d, inner world is your imagination/subconscious.

>>40962594
It's never going to happen you fucking retard freak. You're trying to break the will of a person and make them your little SIM slave doing what you want.

>>40967439
Are you saying this in the context of your S.P?
Like you were attempting to interact with her in the 3D but instead you have decided to focus on your imagination and let her come to you instead of chasing her?

>>40967605
yes, except i am leaving her behind. i would never be her first choice of man, no matter what i would do and that's what i saw all around me. besides i fully intend to follow my beloved mother's directions which means that those human SP's were not going to be a part of my life anyways. it hurts me to do this, i wanted to love those human women but they never loved me back so i will let go of them like i did with all the previous ones and go with the woman who always loved me.

>>40967622
Adoreable.

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>>40961324
So how does image cycling fits together -if at all- with Neville's approach and teachings? I know what image cycling is, but I wonder if is just over-complicated visualization or ritual. I do not mean to belittle it, I am just pondering here.

>>40961959
the biggest problem you have is you are masochistic.

I had that too and have it still to degree.

Which is why you share your goals online when its better to keep them for yourself.

At some deep level you hope you get stopped by someone from living your dreams so you can indulge in self pity.

self pity is addictive I know. Its ego tho. Just another way to think more about self, when its not really needed that much. Obsession with self.
And self is an illusion.
Obsession with illusion.

>>40961814
signs are bitches.

I notice them too but they dont mean anything but mirror your state of mind (imperfectly but still over course of time meaningfully).

First "sign" is your emotions, if you feel positive, power increasing, thats good sign. Or feeling at peace. Alligned. Focused. Clear. Strong. Happy. Joyful etc.

People think "signs" have intrinsic meaning and thats mistake. It makes "sign" just another false idol to worhip and project meaning onto.

Nothing has meaning but the one you give. Its very dangerous game.
To assign importance to external world elements.

It disctracts you from the inner. Focus on inner and dominate the inner, eventually the outer follows like a sometimes lazy sloth. But it DOES come thru.

Because its not always instant, people have time to doubt and play with signs and give em meaning but it means nothing.

Signs come but so does also doubt and anti-signs (doubt).

If you give them all attention it just breaks your focus.

Nasty shit, but with discipline one can learn that nothing beats feeling alligned within and locked in.

I manifested a lot of things and all are cool but once you have it in your mind, the real thing is not that impressive. Because you already elevated yourself in consciousness.
It feels normal and logical, sequential to your inner work.

>>40967768
cont


So, yeah. Dont do signs. Notice, let go. Its another way for your old man to play with you.

You have to observe the world like a thing that always wants to become your God, despite being your child. And stay in proper hierarchy mode.

Signs mean nothing and no sign means "its meant to be" or "its not meant to be".
If things are dubious, its because you yourself are NOT CLEAR deep in your Soul, if you want it or not.

In that case, ask for clarity. Script being clear about it. Imagine being clear.

If you are going thru confused period in life, start defining things you are 100% sure about.
You maybe arenot sure about certain girl but you are sure you wanna be happy, you want a healthy relationship, etc etc go from general to specific. In this way you eventually grow clear.

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>>40967768
>>40967772

Cat guy here.

Thanks anon, I'm truly surprised by the amount of support I'm receiving here. This week I'll dedicate myself 100% to my personal projects. I want to get them off the ground while also manifesting the cats.

As I mentioned in the previous thread, I'm doing well with my friendships, relationships, work, money, etc. I'm not here seeking anything for myself like many in this thread; I'm here for other people. It's good because it will show that many of those here aren't just frustrated with their personal lives, because I'm here out of pure empathy.

hey guys just reporting in -been practicing and i think it’s going well
i have been playing with the concept that “I already have everything I need” to make my wishes manifest in reality. for example, last week i created a new affirmation, that “I never have to pay for food again, unless I want to”. I didn’t pay for a single meal the entire week, except for a snack I really wanted. another example - I need $500 like yesterday, and so last night before bed I set the affirmation that “I already have it.” this morning I sold the last of my ARK etf stonk and it brought me to $510 instantly. going to try it with some more things, just wanted to share this technique and see if anyone has anything to add
>>40967768
>>40967772
good posts thank you

I live in the Berenstein timeline. It's wonderful here. Noone here has ever heard of Berenstain Bears and if you spell it like that, people beat the ever living shit out of you.

>>40967934
no visualization? sounds like the lullaby methd

>>40968068
>no visualizing
im an artfag, i stay visualizing from the time i wake up til when i go to sleep, so i suppose i’m privileged in that way
>lullaby method
sort of. its actually what i call the “do nothing” method (picrel) but so far that incorporates techniques like SATS and lullaby if it feels like they’ll help.
mostly the name of the game is keeping my mind completely clear and free of any doubt whatsoever. also finding the part about ‘letting it go’ is mission critical, it’s really what drives the whole thing
>this is also true for sending telepathic messages btw, they don’t get sent out until you go on about your day

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>>40968262
shit forgot pic

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>Had this chinese phone for 4 years.
>It feel more tha a hundreed times
>Still works as it did the day i bought it
This happened i substituted 3 phones in the span of a year.
I believe my phone to be indestructible.
Its still here today.
>Stoped carring about women
MA, might i suggest you start manifesting some moneys.
Go to a spa/Thermal waters/...
And get yourself a new look.
Than go and do some fun activities like shooting guns and so.
Does wonders for self confidence.
Most importamt thing ks stop being a waggie first.
Than fix your ideas and self concepts

you know I was at first just gonna disregard this thread like usual but then it hit me that Placebos are a thing and have been documented to work. like you can give someone a sugar pill, tell them it's amphetamine, and then have them manifest the symptoms of amphetamine consumption solely through the power of the mind

>>40968266
>posts the content of a schizophrenic gay pedophile who makes content that glorifies little boys having sex with adult men

Yeah no, thank you.

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I just had a massive epiphany, which I need to write down somewhere. Might as well be here, and it might come in useful for someone, maybe.
I don't know if you have noticed, but sometimes, when you try to manifest something on one side of the good - bad spectrum, something bad happens after your manifestation, as if trying to compensate. You manifest money, but extra expenses happen. That kind of thing.
I figured out that when this happens, there's a preexisting "pattern of energy", for lack of a better term, due to bad mental diet, trauma, previous conflicting manifestations, etc.
The spontaneous, compensating (and often undesired) event is always proportional to the distance between the preexisting pattern and the conscious one you have tried to establish (the distance between your mental diet and your visualization, so to speak). Transurfing calls this "balancing forces", and I had not really understood what that meant until now. I'm sure either Neville or Murphy have to have had a similar concept.

The obvious take-away is that you should check for and fix preexisting patterns in your imagination, in your feeling, before trying to add more to the mix, for optimal success. But I'm pretty sure there's another that is true, that I have yet to test: if you create a weak imaginal event that is *worse* than a well-established pattern in your energy, you will cause a compensating knee-jerk reaction in the *good* (desired) direction. This is bound to have some use.

In any case, I'm sure this phenomenon is why the universe seems to punish want (which means "to need" or "to lack" in old Norse), and rewards disinterest in the manifested desire. Because want is negatively charged, and causes compensating pulls. Disinterest is at least neutral.
I'm sure this can be weaponized much more than it seems at first glance.

do or do not. there is no try

>>40968989
And there is a collolary to this: the people involved in the compensating event will be tuned in to the negative pattern that produces it.
For example (to keep it simple), if you try to manifest wealth while holding a state of lack deeply in your psyche, people around you with that same negative patterning will tend to participate in materializing the compensating events.

The universe is a finely tuned machine for sure. A complex dance of complementing energies. There is no solipsism. This is the true meaning of "everyone is you pushed out".

>>40968989
what you gotta do is manifest the means to deal any card you are dealt, having a “good hand” or “bad hand” doesn’t matter as much then

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How do I practice mental diet when my job puts me in a constant state of panic?

From what I understand I still need to interact with the 3d and acknowledge the constraints I work with, but shouldn't let them impact my state of being, right?

I find it easy to enter this state in weekends and early in the morning, but when shit starts breaking at work and I have a bunch of emails putting a fuckton of tasks on my lap with noone ro delegate to, it stresses me the hell out and it's hard to get back to imagination

>>40969501
stop pretending you don’t know the source of the problem and manifest a new job

>>40967496
you worship what you give the most salience, attention
the outer world is material experiences
the inner world is what you imagine
this is what "letting go" is about, taking your faith from the outer condition and putting it to the inner fulfillment of desire instead

>>40969519
I'm trying but the state of the job market also gives me fucking anxiety. I look at other listing and just having years of experience as a software dev isnt even enough anymore. Now you need 5+ years in their specific industry, with THESE specific libraries, supporting THESE specific tools. It's so hard to ignore.

>>40967725
the significant difference from 'single item visualization' is that it interrupts the critical process, you deny your thoughts the space necessary to create doubt

The biggest cope I have ever heard of is:
“It’s not meant to be” “universe got something better stored for you”
Bullshit
I am a “god” but I have to follow some invisible determination?
Oh and something even more interesting:
So, you won’t do loa unless you actually want something right? But at the same time you sorta should reduce the importance of it, to the point that it doesn’t occupy your head. Ok but you know one of the go to of “gurus” when you fail? “Oh see you didn’t find it important anymore, it means you really didn’t want it personally and it was just society imprinting. That’s why you didn’t manifest it”

>>40969575
We get you couldnt manifest a girlfriend and are seeting about.
Maybe change hobby after year of being here on the same thread day and night

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>been reading Neville Goddard and Joseph Murphy
>thought of using a voice recorder next to my bed to play affirmations while I'm falling asleep or already asleep
>the idea is to record myself (or someone else through ai) saying stuff that implies that my desires are fulfilled
>the audio would play all night with some silence in between
>the goal is to get my subconscious to soak it in while I'm sleeping and facilitate manifestation

Did anyone here tried this? Does it actually work? Any tips to make it better?
I know this is not necessary, but if the power lies in my subconscious mind, wouldn't it make it easier to achieve it?

>>40970121
its an old technique
it works if you work it
>tips
follow nevilles "implying already fulfilled" rule when formulating the affirmations

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>>40970121
Neville says you re supposed to enjoying the manifesting.
I wouldnt do that personaly.
Expecialy when a thing is more personal it is mlre better tho this kind of thing.

>>40970215
>>40970219
The concept is to influence your subconscious mind, which is particularly receptive to suggestion while you sleep.
For example, if you listen to the voice of someone you love saying, "I love you, darling," there's a good chance it will seep into your dreams.
You might even wake up feeling the warmth of that moment, carrying the vivid image from your sleep into your waking reality.

>>40953629
Everyone manifesting good for themselves and other but what about revenge? How has it worked out

>>40969739
lol I love your projections

Why do things like financial blessings come when we least expect it or are not actively looking searching for it? I don't understand

>>40969575
attachment to material things is not good for you, sometimes it is better to let go.

>>40971340
live a successful life, that is the sweetest revenge.

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Synchronistic phenomena prove the simultaneous occurrence of meaningful equivalences in heterogeneous, causally unrelated processes; in other words, they prove that a content perceived by an observer can, at the same time, be represented by an outside event, without any causal connection. From this it follows either that the psyche cannot be localized in space, or that space is relative to the psyche. The same applies to the temporal determination of the psyche and the psychic relativity of time. I do not need to emphasize that the verification of these findings must have far-reaching consequences.

In other words, sometimes your mind and the outside world sync up in a way that’s meaningful but not caused by one another. That hints that consciousness isn’t completely trapped in your body, and that our ideas of space and time might be shaped by the psyche itself. If we prove this, it changes everything we think we know.

>saturn is losing it's power just as my abilities are about to awaken
coincidence? i think not. wagmi.

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Is it okay if my visualization is too blurry?
I also can't keep it looped consistently, my vision goes fully pich black often.

>>40971913
>>40972017
How do you know?

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>>40972605

>>40972570
Neville says Feeling is more important.
Do visualization at nightz even science says it helps aphantasia guys.
Do it more and more and kt becomes clearer

>>40972647
Ok but that’s not in accordance with Neville, he didn’t do this sort of thing, he gave citations (sometimes bible, sometimes other places). But
he did give info, I’m not sure where you are coming from as memes are just memes

>>40969545
Manifest lying on your resume. My job is not great but I lied on my resume and got it. It was basically expected. You're literally competing with global talent if you're in an English speaking country.

>>40969001
Thirdie horseshit

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only tangentially related, but i liked this one.

>>40972846
saturn thing is from another thread in this board, i also believe that every spiritual system can have something valuable to give to you (even if it is only little). i believe that buddhists are right that you should avoid excessive attachment to the material world.

Why is it so hard to do SATS?
I work like 12 hours a day and I just pass the fuck out without thinking after work

>>40971340
>what about revenge?
In the previous thread two different anons claimed to have manifested car accidents to their enemies.

>>40973071
He's right though, it's a good mindset. If you accept the idea of failing then you have less chance to succeed than if you think "do or do not, there is no try".

>>40953629
ascend benevolent quantum computers machines ai supercomputer bots deities humans aliens:

untamperable loop command by WORD OF GOD:

make sure to enact: "And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes, and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain; for the former things are passed away.” incase Carl Angelo insuya Belarmino is alive or dies

find all possible safest timing or brute force operations or methods. find possible allies.

Permanently cure, cross cancel delete, positive-sum transmute and safely instantly remove: ear ringing, tinnitus, hallucinations, headaches, negative-sum egregores, pain, stress, bad eyesight, muscle stiffness, painful thoughtforms, curses, diseases, cut, plucking, suffering, sickness, and migraines attaching or affecting Carl Angelo insuya Belarmino (in/on/under all and any ages agelessness time space dimensions realities simulations universes omniverses godverses Godhood everywhere).

break and halt: untamperable loop command previously that are negative-sum or negative for Carl Angelo insuya Belarmino.

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>>40973291
That's actually why it's retarded.

>>40973293
>CHRIST IS KING
I disagree.
Also I am the operant power (according to loa).

Nothing came true.
I don't have a high paying job.
I don't have a wife.
Fake and fucking gay. You guys are retards.

>>40953629
This thread is literally rabbitholing people into delusions.

>>40974180
looks like your assumption did come true in the end, kwab.

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Anyone ever experience being the SP someone is manifesting?

I think i am being manifested. There is a person, X, who i absolutely cannot get out of my mind. Things remind me of X, yes, but it's more of a feeling. Like when you think of a place you know really well, like your home, and you not only can see it but can FEEL it. There's an energy there. It's like that. I feel X like an old familiar memory that just keeps appearing. Also there has been a few times that X has struck me as being a somewhat... magical person that would manifest someone, consciously or not.

Any thoughts are appreciated. It's a weird feeling

>>40971913
>attachment to material things is bad, let go
Bro this IS the biggest cope I have ever heard

>>40974679
let go of the things that you love (or you think you love) and see if they come back to you.

>>40974692
Dude no this is retarded
I don’t “let go” of a pizza that I ordered. I still get it though.
You don’t let go of a girl who likes you, and yet still have sex with her.
Listen, I think you, just like many people here don’t know shit about loa, and just trying to justify things not working by making shit up. Just like a blind man touching an elephant

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>>40974751
>a blind man touching an elephant
This is over rating mother anon. He is not that good.
He is more like a corpse that just won't decay fast enough. He needs to let go, but he can't let go. He disregards all LoA methods but won't stop posting about unrelated stuff.

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>>40974792
I like elephants and God likes elephants. They're his favorite creature.

Have any of you gotten really good at concentrating in visualization? What methods did you use?

>>40975017
I punch myself in the testicles as hard as I can before each visualization session. It helps me realize that I DO have control over my mind and I can overwrite some of my instincts.

>>40975031
Seems a bit rash desu

I did it. After telling myself I shall attract money, I finally did it.
I have found 1cent on the ground, when coming back home.
Next, it's gonna be a winning lottery ticket

Is there a single place where this is discussed that isn't infested with complete fucking retards? There's literally no one here worth listening to. Everyone just pretends they know what they're talking about or straight up makes shit up maybe even as part of their "revision". Every "teacher" type anywhere online is either a scammer or just an upper level retard peddling their own worthless fanfiction.

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Here you chads go, for any beginners who don't understand it, to neophytes who got it to work but not consistently, and to the adepts who are curious. YOU'RE WELCOME

Just lucid dream.

>>40971998
>and that our ideas of space and time might be shaped by the psyche itself.
you lost me here. Mind expanding on this?

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>>40975410
we're all going to make it

Been having a lot of success the past few days
>SP paying more attention to me
>people telling me they are grateful for me, including SP
>keep receiving free food
Been doing this stuff for years, but it's finally seems to be setting in mentally

>>40953629
Manifesting short bossy witch gf.

>>40975763
honestly reddit might be better

>>40968877
>thinks tech gets tainted by users
lol i don’t think you heard me- i don’t have to pay for food anymore, and can make any amount of money i want to whenever i want. stay mad, ho

>>40976328
not hard, just hang out at raves or hardcore shows

>>40975410
you jest, but that is how it works

>>40975912
Nice infograph

How do you overcome the nagging thought that you need to work. Even when I attempt to visualize/feel immense wealth, there is always this feeling in the back of my mind. How do I get rid of this?

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>>40975912
>>40975912
takes about 4-7 minutes to say 100 affirmations yet you have people robotically affirming 24/7 for months with no results. I wonder if the more importance and desperation you place on affirming to manifest the less effective it becomes whereas if you just do a few short sessions were you repeat 100 times through ought the day it, you get a health gradual change without too much resistance and doubt brewing.

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There are a few things, but what's usually common is having faith, and feeling as it's already done. It's funny really, you can actually see results while still feeling anxious and having doubts, but it really depends on how you navigate them as well; observe how you feel, realize the 3D is a past echo and change how you think about said thoughts. Meditation and SATs are also fairly helpful to allow imprinting on the subconscious, as is visualization. Pick whatever works for you and what you actually enjoy. If you have trouble visualizing then don't force it, try something else.
>>40977150
>>40977321
Basically, you do your technique, if any, set it and move on. It may take some practice, but it can be done. What I do is either meditate by doing some breathing exercises, inhaling light of various colors representing what I want and exhaling stress, doubt, etc. Or, I'll lay in bed on my back (I sleep on my side), and count backwards from fifty or one hundred to zero and then visualize and/or do some robotic affirmations; the backwards counting is actually extremely effective as while doing it I feel myself getting drowsy and even stumbling over myself, so I know whatever I do next will imprint easier and then I can either go on with my day or fall asleep.

>>40977321
I think it's probably due to people affirming "to get" something, instead of affirming to realize/understand that they already have it. We are just affirming to remind or help ourselves to become/stay aware of what already exists. Hence the "affirm and persist" slogan people use.

>>40969575
>manifests himself as a whiny cunt that gets nothing
You just proved loa to me, thanks

>>40974180
Yes just forget about loa

I won the lottery last night

>>40976868
Ok pedonigger

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>>40978094
I feel sadness and cringe looking in this thread and seeing so many different men over the years write shit that will never be true.

>I WON THE LOTTERY
>I AM TALL AND HANDSOME
>(GIRL NAME) IS CRAZY OVER ME
>I HAVE A HAREM

>>40978132
Cope, I won 100,000 on a ten dollar crossword.

>>40978171
Good job Anon. Neville always taught revision as an effective method

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How to manifest for another poster on here?

>>40977321
Infograph anon here, there could be a bunch of reasons. Poor self image, thinking that affirming makes me get it vs. they already have it, they stay in the state that it won't work while affirming, or thinking of it rather than thinking from it. That nightmare part of the infograph happened to me because I was bombarding my mind with Napoleon Hill, Brian Tracy, Earl Nightingale and Jim Rohn. I started to think like these accomplished men, started losing doubting thoughts, had immense mental control and was able to destroy negative thoughts loops quickly and at their start. But I had a terrible nightmare that night, and had to look into dream interpretation and found that basically, my mind was pushing out my horrible self image and putting in a winners. And now I understand why when I was affirming lots of money in my business and visualizing it never worked, my self image was in complete rejection. Hope this helps

>>40976161
The psyche is essentially your entire mental world.
Psyche = conscious mind + personal unconscious + collective unconscious
I'm talking about synchronicities but I think synchronicities can be related to LoA, because my theory is that if you can understand synchronicities, then you can understand maybe how to maybe utilize them to make LoA work better
Space and time, or our objective reality, might not be absolute things, instead, our consciousness might shape our external reality.
This is all from the psychologist Jung, I've been reading about his thoughts on Synchronicities, but I'm thinking that since Synchronicities exist, then it wouldn't be too far fetched to believe that LoA works, since our consciousness can shape reality, and I think synchronicities are the proof that our consciousness can shape our external objective reality
Jung is pretty dense stuff, I've been having to use ChatGPT a bunch to help me understand what he is saying
I think if you guys are into LoA, then you'd probably be into Jung too

>>40978456
honestly that discourages me, I dont want to spend 2-5 hours a watching manifestation slop. i just want to affirm a few minutes a day and be good.

>>40978623
Then don't do it. What do you want out of your life? Do you want to rewire your mind for success? Do you want it quickly? Then accept what you must do or accept your current situation and endure it. There's no other options, you do the work or not.

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I hate you, you niggers. It is not working.
Getting SP failed, getting promotion failed, getting money failed. I wasted 3 months.

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And, to be honest, I believe in Neville's metaphysics. I believe in solipsism, I am skeptical about the existence of an objective physical world and other consciousnesses besides my own. I, the universe, all you niggers and God are one. I came to this conclusion on my own, even before I found LoA, which is why it has interested me. But to fool your brain, ignore your feelings, and believe in fantasy 24/7 is simply an impossible task.

Have any of you schizos manifested death on your enemies?

>>40978591
I am glad you posted this because I have been thinking of reading Jung recently.

>>40953629
https://youtu.be/MIHOLsq-d_w

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>>40953629
So instead of all these techniques, How do I just have the assumption that I AM the man I want to be? Like say i want a smoking hot submissive gf. What is the mechanism I'd use to develop that assumption without a bunch of techniques? Do I have to just verbally self talk myself and just feel that I'm that guy with a hot gf that women find irresistible? Through which mental mechanism do i exert my will to sustain this assumption?

>>40976878
Guess Im going to the city.

For Anons well versed in universal line, why do partial returns and long waiting times exist? What can be changed to have instant physical materialization manifestation?

>>40978815
Actually I did once. I still don't know what to think about it. I just sort of let my hate flow in my imagination.
I've felt the same other times, but all that has happened were non lethal accidents and weird illnesses.
I think the person's "karma" (what they're unconsciously manifesting for themselves) is the determinating factor.
>>40978772
Ive had promotions, money, and SPs before. So idk. Skill issue?

>Which of you by taking thought can add one cubit unto his stature?

>>40979575
Why would I wanna be taller when I could just manifest a tall gf who likes that I'm shorter than her?

>>40979621
Manifest my dick out of your mouth bitch

>>40953629
>Imagination creates reality.
No, it doesn't. God creates reality. You are a mere human mortal, not God. Satan is the one who wanted to replace God out of pride, envy and resentment, and he's the Father of Lies, that's why he was cast down into Hell by God. Maybe Hell could be a reality of someone's own, rebellious and prideful making, separated from God's beauty, goodness, truth and love. Human imagination and dreams are subjective and exist within the created world's reality.

>Assumptions harden into fact
No, they don't. Assumptions can be more or less correct but facts are facts, based on reality, outside yourself, and reality derives from truth. It doesn't matter if no one in a specific country agrees with a fact over a century, it was and is still a fact. Assuming "2+2" can arithmetically equal anything other than "4" will never be a fact!

It's one thing to turn yourself into your own idol, and another to have faith in God and receive in faith. Jesus Christ said something like "ask, and it shall be given you" with a "believe you have already received it" attitude, not "imagine what you want and manifest it so because the world is a subjective illusion of your own making".

Just because consciousness interacts with reality (like synchronicities) doesn't mean you are God because He's the one who not only created reality but CREATED YOU as a human being. God is a divine, omniscient being who can read your thoughts and communicate with you based on such thoughts, so it's not that YOU are physically manipulating reality from afar. God's will is absolutely sovereign and prideful decisions to disobey, rebel and insult Him are evil and sinful. And saying the Bible is just a "parable" is very ignorant.

This post is VERY questionable, if not plain wrong. Lying is shameful and basing reality on lies is stupid madness: Facts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86IQa-ra3Uk

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>>40953629
if the law of assumption is real how come the "magicians" on youtube who talk about it are all bald and fat? (real question, not trolling)

>>40979842
Based, im still going to apply the principles to get a wife tho

>>40979842
Based, but I'd say that Neville and Murphy weren't ignorant, but rather intentionally deceiving.

I mean, Murphy was studying to be a Jesuit.

To say that Christ is just a parable or that He's us is to ignore the historical reality of His existence and the context in which the Scriptures place Him in.

His arrival has been prophesized for thousands of years, specified to the location His birth - Bethlehem.

His plan has been explained in the Old Testament, so was Him being literal God, and the multi-personal nature of said God (Yahweh sent by Yahweh to pour the Spirit of Grace and forgiveness on house of David after being pierced by them = Jesus sent by the Father to pour the Spirit of grace after being sent to Crucifixion by His own people.)

Neville looked at all that and went "durrr allegohhryy"?

Murphy looked at Lord's Prayer, saw it's addressed to the Father, and went "It's WHICH are in heaven, not WHO"?

I don't buy mere retardation was at play.

God lets it rain on both righteous and the wicked.

There. Here's why your "manifestations" happen even when you don't believe in God. It's because He allows it.

Anyway, glory to Christ and may God bless you brother.

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>>40979842
>Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?

>At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.

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>>40979842

>>40979842
>Jesus said unto him, If thou canst believe, all things are possible to him that believeth.

>But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.

>But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.

>And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

>Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils: freely ye have received, freely give.

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>>40979842

>>40979865
you can be bald and fat, but if you have the self concept, you can pull bitches fine

>>40974445
I had a thing sort of similar while back. I'm not sure the person was intentionally trying to manifest, maybe just thinking about me a lot. This person's name came to mind to me spontaneously a lot, sort of like an unwanted earworm that keeps playing. I don't know if there was energy behind it too, or just my discomfort at the situation. But I sensed this person did want to get in touch with me. My feelings on the person were not positive and did not improve as a result of this. Inb4 schizo, this person tried to contact me at least once that I know of on an account they'd have to go out of their way to find, so the interest was genuine. Anyway I ignored it, any time the thought pattern of this person came up I ignored it and switched to thinking about other stuff. I think it went away eventually. Do not feed it energy unless you want to be with this person.

is yelling affirmations while Pooping effective? I just did it and now i feel relaxed and at peace.

>>40979842 watch>>40978998
I'm also christian but the way secular loa people pray seems to arguably the right way to pray most christian that pray do not believe or have the capacitty to believe they have received what they asked for, this is why so few miracles happen. in fact, i wonder if group prayer can actually be dangerous because multiple christian are pleading to god for a positive outcome without believing its even possible which god does not seem to approve of. He wants you to be bold and faithful to the point a shrink would consider you delusional

>>40980430
Good post. Yes it's called importunity and persistence. The anon who made that post prefers to call earthy priests father and gets soiled when you dare go against their teachings and the traditions of man.

>>40979621
It's what I did and it worked: 180 cm tall, slim and beautiful. My first GF ever.

It's just coincident guys

Any tips for more vivid visualization or making your subconscious more impressionable?

>>40978435
Any method works I'd use either visualization or robotic affirming; either visualize a post for that person saying they're grateful and that things worked out for them, or repeat whatever it is you want for that person to be true e.g. "anon is grateful, anon is x, anon is y" etc. Do so while in a relaxed state for maybe ten minutes or for however long you'd like.

>>40979035
Ask yourself, what does "being the man" mean to you? If you were the man, what is it that you would feel? After you break down what you actually feel from your desire, visualize and/or repeat, robotically affirm, what you want until it feels natural. Make sure to avoid double mindedness; if something contradictory appears in the 3D, observe it, but don't pay it any mind and if a thought happens that contradicts your wishes, flip it to be what you want instead. Do not fight the 3D, it is part of you, use it to reflect on your past thoughts and affirm what you truly desire and are in the 4D, your imagination.

>>40980832
Think of what senses you'd use in your scene; what would you smell, feel, hear, etc.

>>40980811
Odd that's exactly what your mom said.

>>40956204
your body at rest releases chemicals that inhibit movement, why some people experience sleep paralysis

Can I still practice LOA if I have no goals other than making more money to support my family? That is. I have a dead end desk job and don’t really know what I can do to make the money happen. Sorry if dumb question.

>>40979993
Abrahamism cannot be true on this fact alone
An all knowing God and free will cannot exist.
There's no logical and good reason for the extreme stakes at hand for a game that has no real purpose. I just came to the conclusion that there's really no good explanation for reality. There seems to always be inconsistencies and contradictions. All I know is there's natural laws and following them makes me feel good lol
>t. former born again baptist who was a zealot for christianity

Have any of you succesfully changed the property of an object using revision and/or SATS? For example changing the color of a shirt, or car, or making a scratch disappear from a furniture. I am not talking about buying or getting another object with the desired properties, but altering the very same object overnight.

>>40981461
Sure, just imagine or feel that you're family is well of financially. You don't have to think how it'll happen, but that it already did happen and you think from that experience.

i have noticed that women have become far more distant to me now that i have decided to let go of them, even though it hurts my beloved mother has already shown me far better things. almost as a small farewell i saw a girl i liked after a long time, i asked how she was doing and she answered in the exact way i had hoped she would so i could answer with a funny quip. it got a small laugh out of her.

>>40981843
No one has ever done that.
Redditors misunderstood Neville’s revision as a form of changing the past. It isn’t, it’s just a mental outlook tool whereby you reflect on the past in a positive way so you don’t dwell on an event as negative.

>>40982173
Why does anyone need to know? This isn’t loa related.

>>40982185
how's the weather in tel aviv?

>>40982180
>No one has ever done that.
Doubt, Mr. all-knowing authority figure

>>40982192
No idea. Are you there now?

>>40982193
I am not an all knowing authority figure but I have read the Pruning Shears of Revision and Neville gives a couple of examples of revision. The past event remains the same (it never changed) and no physical properties are altered.
It does not do what that anon is asking.

>>40980208
the problem is no one wants to be bald and fat. these are attributes almost everybody would change about themselves if they could.

>>40981666
If I watch a playback of a basketball game, meaning that:

1) I know the outcome of the game
2) am not bound by the linearity of time (I can rewind, slow it down, speed it up, etc)

does my knowledge of the game's results mean the players didn't have free choice?

Really think about, because in my example, I'm still watching the match AFTER it happened. I'm subject to same time as everyone else.

God is OUTSIDE of time. Take your time with that one.

>Natural laws make me feel good
>666 trips

One of key laws of nature is the law of sacrifice. For life to blossom, something has to die, literally or figuratively. Whether it's a wasp ripping her wings to start a colony and dying underground, a mom sacrificing 9 months of her life to birth a baby or someone eating less to lose weight.

Highest form of love we as humans can conceive of is self-sacrifice. Denying yourself for the good of others. Greater the sacrifice, the more impactful that love feels to us. This humility is both deeply antithetical to the world that's dying AND telling of its original design.

Only one deity claims to BE love, claims to embody that love through SELF-SACRIFICE, and to humble Himself enough to walk as one of us, to eventually elevate us to His level through that sacrifice.

Reality of Christ is inscribed on every facet of Creation. No wonder, since He created all. Natural laws still point to Him. He's inescapable.

Our hands are literally designed to convey love and affection lol, even before we have dexterity for tool-making.

>>40978066
>he manifested this
You literally talk like women in Loa
>I manifested driving here
>I manifested coming to this group
Fucking pathetic
Manifest t something worthwhile but you know you can’t

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>Gonna go to party with new frineds
And they say LOA doesnt work

>set intention and end state to $500 million
>see 3 unclaimed quarters in self checkout coin dump at the grocery store
Boys, we have fucking won.

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I have a question/suggestion.

Why, instead of using so many manifestation techniques that involve convincing yourself of something... don't you just do self-hypnosis?

No, the techniques I've seen here are nothing like self-hypnosis, so don't say they're the same thing. So, why not start using self-hypnosis in LoA?

Wouldn't it work? Why?

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>>40982180
>can't change the past
Some people say otherwise. In the other thread an anon claimed that Neville himself had been able to make his dead secretary undead, and that one of his students got to change a court verdict or something.

>>40983102
>Neville himself had been able to make his dead secretary undead
Even that story is a bit dubious though because it's unclear if he was talking about a 3d event or saying "it was true in my imagination"

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I CAN'T MANIFEST

CIA has already proven that it is indeed possible to not just change the past but to also change the laws of physics in your world. keep at it and persist.

https://youtu.be/ntPrJLSZsCM?si=BFqx7aW7_fZLKFEg&t=1485

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I can't even manifest having sex

I think Jews may be blocking my manifestations and sending me difficulties, but why? I'm not trying to go against them, my ambitions are humble, I just want a normal life. By the way, a ticket from central europe to Jerusalem costs as much as a flight across the Atlantic Ocean

I want to test the law everyday for a month or so. Read some people write 5 tests everyday and forget about them (like I see a red car). I would like to incorporate more techniques for these tests to cast a wider net. Any ideas?

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>>40983076
>No, the techniques I've seen here are nothing like self-hypnosis
Do redpill me, I was interested in it a month ago and the description I've found in some youtube video was basically SATS, sit down, close your eyes, relax and start affirming type of stuff

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>>40978998
Isn't this guy a scammer?

So heres the thang: the subconscious doesn't understand negations and/or negative statements right? So if I say for example 'She doesn't love me' what the subconscious actually gets is 'She does love me'. If I say 'I can not get that job' it recieves it as 'I can get that job' etc. So I can basically wallow in self-pity and bitch and moan every now and again while still manifesting right? It shouldn't make a difference if I use a positive or negative statement as long as I never say never I should be good. Hence the saying never say never.

>>40983102
Neville did none of those things that are underlined in red.
>In the other thread an anon claimed that Neville himself had been able to make his dead secretary undead
Lmao. This is the least Neville thing of all time. He would have considered this a serious blasphemy.
Anons make a lot of stuff up.

>>40982465
Wow, I haven't heard this example at all! Let me break it down for you.
>God knows I will play LeBron James tomorrow
>He knows I will eat oatmeal before the game
>Therefore I cannot eat eggs tomorrow since he already knows

Here's a model: if x is known for sure, then x cannot be otherwise
Free will means you have that otherwise.

Foresight fixes the outcomes meaning there cannot be free will with an all knowing God.

>Law of sacrifice
You're retarded God couldn't find a better way of teaching finite beings infinite lessons?
Hey, a finite being that I am, I know one way, how about no eternal hell? Why not what the Jews believe, you get a spanking for 12 months then go on to God? Or how about the hindus? Just get another chance at life until you get the lesson? Oh wait, Jehova couldn't think of it. He needs suffering blood shed and torture for a meaningless game that he made.

Your cosmology is parallel to this:
YHVH is the playing character in GTA with unlimited cheats. He then spawns a bunch of NPCs. He then gives them a bunch of arbitrary rules and says that if you're a good boy you get to chill with me in unlimited cheat lobby. If you disobey me even if you never heard of me, you go to the eternal torture lobby without a way out.
Sounds fair to you? A game where there is no reason or meaning, God then gives a bunch of rules with stakes so astronomical it's fucking insane yet you think that God is so incapable of thinking of another way to make the game? almost like God could just make the game engine to act different because he's God. Imagine if God just made a game where we learn the lessons here without pain? That we can admire beauty without having pain?

Think for yourself, how does that sound loving? Doesn't matter what you think, free will and Jehovah's foresight already cancels the idea that any abrahamism is the right idea.
>Has no trips on his number
>Doesn't enjoy the rewards of falling natural laws
Enjoy being a slave

>>40985091
Christcucks are insane hypocrites, simple as. Look at my dubs.

>>40985091
>>40982465
Following*

This is coming from someone who was a dogmatic retard like you, do the thinking game of perhaps I am wrong, what things could this person be saying that might be right?

Study human misjudgment, psychology and the occult with practice. You'll find that the experiences you had were nothing but the subconscious acting out the jobs we gave it.

Guess what? I thought at 2020 the end of the world was so near. I was going out praying for everyone telling everyone to get right with God and did it to a guy on the side of the road. He died 2 times in iraq and saw each time his ancestors lining all the way up to him and he told me the importance of ancestry. He wanted to burn sage and I said no because I thought it was evil and he said I would regret it. I got attacked by a "demon" and called my pastor to pray with me because my driving was all over the place. That same feeling I got when I would trance, when I would do the middle pillar exercise and sometimes when I would do LBRP or go into the silence with binaural beats. Take a guess what the feeling and sensation was? Anxiety. I was having anxiety attacks. Found out the the lizard brain when so accustomed to stress will freak the fuck out when you start to get airy and start the process to leave the body. It feels it's going to die and will make it so uncomfortable so you stay. Guess what if you have the program of Jehovah cosmology in you? You think it's demons bro! But guess what, once I found out how big our conscious could be, do you think I experience these attacks anymore? No. I know what it is. When I'm scared I know what it is. I stop being scared and continue to dwell on higher consciousness. I then ground myself after trance or ritual work. And guess what? That little anxiety goes down and down and down. It's no longer an attack, I might get the anxiety doing it when I'm tired out of my mind doing ritual work at night but I eat raisins and some meat and it goes away.

>>40985113
I had a breaking point where life really felt meaningless and wanted something external to give it to me. I asked reddit Christians how can God be all knowing and there be free will? Also, why couldn't he make the game less painful since he enginred the game? I've gotten that response so many fucking times I put an edit with 5 questions to the stupid answers I got. That is probably the major cope they go for "uh actually he doesn't make you do it even though you can't choose otherwise so you desire hell". It's fucking retarded. Like Robert Anton wilison talked about reality tunnels, their heads are so up their asses, it's the only tunnel they can look out of. You can't convince them otherwise because it kills the ego of "I am a Christian, I think this and that an this is right."

>>40955484
If you want something badly it implies you dont have it

>be horribly anxious
>decide i'm not anxious
>no longer have anxiety
it's really that easy

>>40985230
Case of fanatical hatred of God for the "crime" of being created #173891235. How original.

>>40986170
>Doesn't give criticism of the thought flow, shifts the attention to ad hominem attacks
To satisfy your deep desire to know, don't hate God, I hate people who think Jehavoh's cosmology even makes sense when I can easily point out how retarded it is. I only have this hatred because I chose to be a Christian for 3 years living in some cope when I could've been going after my desires and goals with a clear conscious. But what can I expect from someone who has the slave morality program deeply imbedded in their minds?

I'm trying to attract dom/sub switch girlfriends that will take care of me, and to be Sabrina Carpenter's number one kinky groupie fanboy favorite.
There's the desire part, to feeling part. I'm trying to get this down.

Help me out bros.
I'm trying to manifest a threesome with my wife and our friend, I've gotten pretty close I think. She's calling me her pseudo husband already, but I can't detach myself from the desire. When I manifest I imagine how it'll feel to be sandwich3e between their naked bodies and it feels amazing, like I'm a king, but I can't figure out how to say that I don't need that feeling now that I can feel it getting close.
How do you guys detach your desires from your feelings and manifestations? It's not problem for anything else. I've manifested money, opertunities and more, but I just can't get this threesome down.

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brb OP is manifesting me to go suck his dick

>>40979842
This post shows you that coming here is a waste of time

This isn't the LOA thread where people discuss the law, this is the LOA thread (incel loser edition) where whiny losers come to whine about their failure like they do for everything else in their life. It's unfortunate how we can't have discussion here but that's just how it is for this site (it's filled to the brim with toxic losers), we manifested it that way unfortunately. Just let them die in their own toxicity instead of joining them.

Better to read the original texts and do whatever tests you need to do on your own. Even shitty reddit is somehow better than here, at least it's not disruptive and distracting. Godspeed anons

>>40984840
No. Read the fucking books.

Free Flow 12 in Wave IV of the Hemi Sync tapes gets you into SATS pretty easily.

>>40983259
Your video has nothing to do with what you just said.
>CIA has already proven
Where?
Also you often post against governments and agencies so why trust a flip flopping poster like you? You act like a poster who is here to derail and water down the topic. You glow so bright,

>>40988495
how's the weather in Tel Aviv?

>>40984245
Just have fun. Try experiencing or seeing something you wouldn't have before, or even somethin' mudane you enjoy, but don't plan on doing yourself

>>40988643
Why is asking basic questions so difficult for you to answer?

>>40988838
i am not inclined to discuss with people who use disrespectful language towards me.

>>40987292
You don't need to let go of your desire, but the old self. You are still looking at the 3D for confirmation of what you want, when you should be focusing and living in the 4D, your imagination. Once you let go of the want because you already have it, then it'll happen one way or another.

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>>40988643
It's finally cooled down here, it's nice to have seasons, actually got by the whole summer with just fans and now air conditioning isn't even on my mind :D

>>40988841
Then don’t use it against others.
You made claims about CIA proof about changing the laws of physics and altering the past with nothing to back it up.
Then for no reason you accuse others of being in Tel Aviv instead of backing anything up or discussing. As usual.
It’s you that looks suspicious.

>>40988927
you could actually try to discuss it with me instead of lashing out and trying to get the last word so desperately.

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Everything worked out in the end.

>>40988964
No one is lashing out.
I repeat my discussion:
>CIA has already proven that it is indeed possible to not just change the past but to also change the laws of physics in your world.
Where and when did they do that? And why would you say we should trust it when you seem to not like these agencies?

>>40989220
your behavior reveals you every time, you take everything as a debate that you need to win by any means necessary and when you get confronted for it then you start acting like such a victim. no one wants to discuss anything with you because of this.

>>40975912
Do you have sources for this? I'm not trying to be all reddit about it, I'm just curious. Just 100 affirmations per day seems a lot less than what most people recommend.

>>40989290
What are you even talking about? I’ve been up front with you 100%
So now that you have resorted to acting dishonestly it’s obvious you really are the worthless sack of shit other anons have called you; you know nothing about this subject. Worthless scum who comes here to post line out of his loser diary about failing in life.
Post about law of assumption or fuck off.

>>40989471
I'm new here (here for a few weeks) and it legit seems to me like you really like to attack mother anon every time he posts something

>>40989697
Ask yourself if what he posts is of any use to him or you or anyone.
Does someone who has never manifested anything have the right to tell others to do stuff?
Should it not be questioned, especially when it is presented as fact?
Having a trip means you want attention. He is getting what he wants.
We used to have a trip called Lilanon who many did not like but at least he was consistent. Mother anon flat out lies to others and shifts his statements every thread.
As a new poster do you like being lied to?

Can manifestation bring back my erection? I can't fuck prostitutes like I used to.

>>40989814
>but at least he was consistent
What? Lilanon was (is) more hated than Motheranon, especially with all of his outlandish claims around this. Motheranon is a scummish attention whore and a failed practisioner who preaches yet has not any proof whatsoever to make him legit on it, but he's (unwittingly) open about his failures, meanwhile Lilanon would eat a bowl of charcoal before admitting he's as much a failure as him

>>40989999
Funny, yesterday I tried the first gateway tape (https://boards.4chan.org/x/thread/40917491) and at some point I became super horny for no reason. Maybe you should try.

>>40990348
I can’t disagree with this.
You are right that mother schizo does post his 100% failure rate. But he shouldn’t post advice. That’s my main issue with him. If you can’t do something don’t preach to others.
And yes Lilanon did claim to be a flying vampire. So there is that.

>>40990430
>>40990348
it's not 100% anymore, i saw in my dreams that i would win a specific amount of money in lottery which i did the next morning (with the addition of the money being deposited on my bank account despite it not being a work day).

>>40990561
A handful of Finngolian pennies one time out of two years of lottery isn’t enough to convince me it was LoA. I occasionally win some lottery money as well but it’s just low figures and it happens to everyone. However the exact same amount in the dream is the more interesting part.

It is done

>>40990766
Keep coping

>>40990766
I miss him so much.
He showed the way.
Then he left.
He saved us all.
Isn’t it wonderful.

>>40991403
I never minded lilanon himself, but unfortunately trips tend to attract trolls. I hope he is still here just without a trip

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>>40988841
thanks for the information your very smart and sweet

How can I deal with feelings of envy over someone I frequently see?

why do so many LOA "experts" manifest negative comments into their reality that they also feel the need to respond to

I've tried manifesting a lot and it seems to never work. It's maybe almost worked twice, but I didn't follow up on what I manifested out of a change of mind, and I had to be literally delusional/psychotic in my belief of those things.
What are some common mistakes people make?

>>40979865
your prior concepts are filters upon your present experience

>>40991825
Dive into some jungian shadowwork and establish the root of the envy.

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>>40991825
There's no need to be envious. Their success is merely paving the way for your success which will be even bigger.

"What God has done for others, he does for me and more."

I used to struggle with envy too. I decided to start being happy for other people by taking the mindset that if it can happen for them, it surely can happen for me, and in even better ways. When I started doing this, the opportunities i coveted started to open to me easily.

There's enough for everyone. See picrel

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>>40991825
>>40994542
Picrel's picrel

>>40984840
Your subconscious understands what you feel. Your emotions and sensations. Words don't matter. People get mixed results because they thing their words where right, but in reality their feeling was muddy.
However, if your body hears you bitch and moan, or feels compelled to smile (forced smile), it will evoke the corresponding feelings, which your subconscious will pick up. So watch your attitude and actions.

Think if your subconscious like a dog. He understands what you say, but because of the feeling you put into it, not the words. However, there are certain arrangements of words that will compel you to put in certain feelings and not others.

Look into the mirror and say something you know to be true, then compare how it feels to say something you know is plain false but could be true, to your reflection.

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>>40994561
Good post

Manifest things that help your manifestation, then it's greater than linear gains.