better thread here: >>40999760

stick to the topic with your op pics.

I got asked to take over a set of responsibilities at work that basically cover a function that I've been wanting for years now. It came so sudden and especially easy, like they just handed it over to me despite me. I've done some manifestation to it in the past but nothing for it now for some time. And now that it's actually here, I don't really care for it.

>Do the "Write down 10 things" method
>Slowly watching the things that didn't manifest -- manifest
>Scared about what's coming next because I started to make them ambiguous
AIGMI? These ambiguous manifestations are realizing in unexpected ways.

Can I manifest 100$?

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>>40999919
How did you do it exactly, or do you have a link with the method that you followed

>>40999953
"Death is not an event of life. Death is not lived through. If by eternity is understood not endless temporal duration but timelessness, then he lives eternally who lives in the present."

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>>40999974
How exactly does manifesting work? Like for the ladder method, why do you intensely focus on a ladder, then spend 3 days thinking about not climbing a ladder?

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>>40999652
It's all a matter of faith. I think I get it. Life is fucking beautiful, and it only sucked because I thought it sucked. Everything is wonderful

>>40999943
easily

>>41000090
bingo

>>40999763
the better thread is the one you don't participate in, by default

>>40999652
Oh a non-mother anon thread.
Why did I waste time bumping the other one?
This is the legit one, isn’t it wonderful!
>>41000090
This is an upbeat frog poster.

Been having a ton of success with robotic affirmations and some meditation with some small visualization here and there on the side. My mental is strong and things are working in my favor

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Friendly reminder:
Intursive thoughts are mere background noise, don't give them attention or energy, they're not you. by stressing over them you give them attention and energy.

>>41001393
Yes, observe, but don't take them seriously.

>>41001363
What have you manifested

>>41001616
Several people telling me they value and are grateful for me, lots of free food, feeling gratitude, movement with my SP, certain people being more talkative with me. Just a few things

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>>40999652
How do i manifest something that i find hard tro visualize like the most beautiful woman on earth(which should have some characersticis i want) or a beautiful mansion?

>>41001819
If you have trouble visualizing, you could try robotic affirmations for a few minutes. Repeat something along the lines of “I’m grateful to live in such a beautiful mansion with such gorgeous girlfriend”. Repeat to yourself this phrase two to three times a day, or more, for ten or more minutes each.

>>40999652

I manifested a wonderful first date, and I thought we both had a great time. She was smiling and very talkative and seemed enthusiastic to meet again.

But she has been ghosting me since then.

I've been trying to stay positive and keep up SATS, etc.

Yesterday, out in public, I saw two high school kids that looked like the two of us, down to having the same distinctive hair cuts and clothing styles. They looked like an alternate universe version of us where we were dating in school.

Seems like a Synchronicity. I'm trying to keep a positive attitude and find that "feeling is the secret" thing again.

So this is basically like Chaos Magic?

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Ill always remember the time i told one of my friends about the law and he tried it and said that it worked but he was too weak willed to be consistent anr stopped using it

>>41002253
Magic=Idolatry/fake/Secondary tool
Neville=Realizing you are good hence miracles.
There is no need for anything but believe it to be true in the Law he thaught

>>41002269
but Magic still works in its essence on the law of assumption, secondary tools and ceremonies are just extra steps

>>40999652
Things are wonderful. My family easily helps everyone in need now and receives endless abundance in return. Things are better than ever and they continue to improve daily. Everyone who has ever helped me or my family is incredibly blessed and happy to see the immense wealth and endless happiness and success my family now enjoys

>>40999919

Did you just write without feeling anything special, or did you write it with intention/feeling?

I can make anything happen anywhere at anytime. I am the minuteman.

>>40999974
>To ensure the experiment is clean and your results are clear, follow these rules precisely for 14 days.
>1. Commit to 14 Days: No less. You can (and should) continue after, but 14 days is the minimum to get the ball rolling and witness the magic.
>2. Write 10+ New Things Daily: Every day, take out your worksheet or a dedicated notebook and handwrite at least 10 new and unique items you wish to manifest.
>3. Use the Correct Tense: Write every item from the perspective that it has already happened or is an ongoing reality.
>-Past Tense: "I received a free cup of coffee." or "An old friend reached out to me."
>-Present/Continuous Tense: "I am so happy and secure." or "Money comes to me easily and effortlessly."
>4. No Deep State Required: As you write, simply be focused. Hear the words clearly in your mind. You don't need to "feel it real" or do a long visualization. Just write slowly, carefully, and meticulously.
>5. THE #1 RULE: NO PEEKING (For 7 Days): This is the most important rule. You cannot look back on what you've written for a rolling seven-day period.
>- On Days 1-7, you just write and put it away.
>-On Day 8, you can look back at your list from Day 1 only.
>-On Day 9, you can look back at your list from Day 2.
>-...and so on. This gap is essential for creating detachment.
>6. Start with "Low-Stakes" Items: Because this is a testing ground, don't start with your most life-altering, emotionally charged desires. The goal is to prove the mechanism works. Once you have undeniable proof, you can apply it to anything.

>>41002435
Yeah, I think the goal in this is to detach from it very quickly. I only read what I've written in the past when something happens and I remember what I wrote. Then I check it off and keep going. Haven't written anything new because of the repetition problem.

I do feel as if I wrote events I cannot alter, which scares me a bit. I cannot course correct - I wrote my existence.

>>41002449
based

>>41002449
I believe you.

>>41002784
Sounds fun. May try out later

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brb, OP is manifesting me to go suck his dick

>>41001819
use pictures

>>41001363
do you robotically affirm all day?

>>41001869
STOP FUCKING COMPLAINING!

>>41005677
When I wake up, shower, go to sleep and sometimes when I have downtime; can be done while cleaning, walking, working out, etc. During task where you don’t have to think too much

>>41002253
Chaos magick is one step removed, they graduate to this when they are ready (I was one of them)

>>41002253
chaos magick is satanic and will send you to hell, Neville Goddard's techniques are safe, harmless, and universal.

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>>41005786
so would 3x15 minute affirmation sessions through ought the day suffice?

>>41002784
You can't repeat some things? At the end you have 140 unique things written down?

>>41006142
Yup, good enough. Hell, I try to do it for ten minutes, or ‘til I feel drowsy/at peace if I’m not keeping track

What is the ideal penis length and girth for most women? I don't want a big dick just for the sake of having one, just something that will bring them more pleasure without being uncomfortable.

>>41006455
8 inches long

>>41006462
Doubtful.

it is sad that you prefer this thread with an off-topic edgelord picture to my thread that has an on-topic OP pic. anyways, there is always a non-zero chance that any woman in this world (and others as well) will give you pussy. it doesn't matter if that woman is Sydney Sweeney or your own god damn grandmother, the chance may be 0,000000000000... to whatever length but that 1 will come to you at some point. keep at it.

>>41006094
nice to see you here as well!

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>>40999652
Kill ideas and thought. Leave the self behind. The Zen masters never spoke truth.

Can someone explain how SATS works? Is it just lying down and having faith? Does it not work if your mind isn't entirely asleep? I have a hard time telling my conscious self from my unaware self, and I'll hear voices that I don't agree with as I sleep

>>41007189
>my thread sucks
We know
>y-you won’t get women!
Ok but you don’t anyway. Maybe try LoA.
>>41006094
Now this a respectable trip who actually discusses things instead of just blogging and making stuff up. Does everyone agree? No, but it at least he’s not here to just complain about his life. Personally I think chaos magic is totally different but at any rate we al, agree LoA is not directly chaos magic.

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I am severely depressed and Anhedoniac(none gives a shit yeah) I can't feel anything besides numbness I have read Feeling is the secret and the power of awareness so far my understand is that I have to feel positive feelings such as joy and thrill while praying or visualizing but my mind is just too numb, not even extreme pleasures are giving me much feelings.

>>41007524
Exercise, not even joking, it grounds you and makes you feel good. If I didn't go to the gym regularly I'd be a fucking mess.

>>41007585
Physical activity makes me feel less awful but not enough to overcome the numbness and the lack of any emotions

I believe I have something, and have experienced this my entire life in places I'm going to call 'spontaneous manifestation'. Basically a thought is placed in my head and then manifested in reality. As a small example
>driving along
>a song suddenly appears in my head
>that song immediately comes on the radio
Though that seems silly, it has covered various events, sometimes I really notice it, sometimes I don't. The thought of the impending manifestation will literally come from nowhere and then immediately manifest. I'm not sure if anyone else has had this, I'm not sure how this can be utilised when you have no control over it.

>>41007593
>>41007524
Being happy is for women and faggots anyways. There’s a reason all smart people are depressed. Retards get happy becuase a football went the “right way”, if you’re depressed it simply means that you’re better than everybody else. Imagine being happy, now imagine being a huge faggot, oh wait, you were already imagining that. Just don’t kill yourself u less you know the 7 passwords and u’ll be fine

>>40999652
I was trying to visualise what I wanted in the future last night, visualised how I do normally (thinking about looking at myself in the bathroom mirror and focusing on physical features) then I walked out of the room looked around everywhere (I have never tried moving around and seeing the rest of my surroundings and actually live, everything felt slow as I really had to focus), trying to get as much detail as possible from my surroundings, then I go into my bedroom and into a handstand (which I can't do but I have been trying - I wanted to see how it felt) and then while doing this I then said (in my mind) “I don’t know how this feels, it feels so strange, I never get to speak about stuff like this to you anymore” and then my train of random thoughts continued before thinking “spoke to who like this anymore?” (questioning what the hell I meant) And then after that I felt cold, heavy, dizzy and empty and I was struggling to think. Like my mind felt quiet and I had one train of thought but then it slowly came back as I tried to think of more things. After that I like struggled to visualise or focus on anything for the rest of the night. Does this seem similar or anyone know what sort of happened or what I was doing? It felt really strange and I can't stop thinking about it.

>>41007524
You don’t need to feel anything to use robotic affirming a few times a day

>>41007598
Sounds like synchronicity and maybe dejavu

>>41008009
But feeling is the secret.
So said Neville.

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Jews won't let me manifest

>>41002269
Magick is real like gravity, deities & spirits are actual forces, rituals create energies that move stuff in the world; but it’s still imagination at the core wat makes magick work.
NG showed the raw law, magick is the dramatization.
loa = the background law,
imagination = the engine,
ritual = a lever
On a higher level you could drop the props, but for humans it’s easier to channel imagination through ceremony. both are valid, though the ultimate source is imagination.

>>41008009
>>41008088
IRRC I will keep reading Neville's books and then find out how to overcome the obstacle, but sure I can do affirmations even if they are going to be "souless"

>>41008115
I consider Techniques such as S.A.T.S or scripting as "rituals"
it's a semantic-arbitrary thing really

>>41008088
Feeling isn’t necessarily emotional, but knowing it is done. Live and think as though it is already yours. Here’s an example I heard: imagine you wear some new clothes. At first you’ll be self aware, maybe even self conscious, but after a while it becomes something natural. Live as though it is natural and it will be done.

>>41008139
Not that anon, but I agree. When I was younger I’d perform rituals that were basically tools to help me drop the old story. Any ritual can work as long as faith is there.

>>41008171
Okay this is eye opening for me I understand to feel joy and thrill is not needed but I am supposed to develope a neutral feeling of it "already being done" or already having happened.

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How to manifest every single pajeet and negro+ gypsie and other brown variant to be deported from all western countries?

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>>41008205
Jews are ultimate manifestators who have long monopolized magic and rule the world. They have special structures that deal with political affairs, and they telepathically control US government from Tel Aviv.

The last person who was able to take power away from them shot himself in a bunker in Berlin.

And I'm not even anti-semitic, I don't understand why they send me curses and block my manifestations. I just want a red Ferrari and to stop being an incel.

Last year I was manifesting happiness but only got unhappy times I never had before, so I forgot about LoA. Now, I realized that after something brought me here, and just scared to manifest.

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never let anything limit your ambitions.

>>41006455
ideal length is about 6.5in, ideal girth about 5-5.5in.

Aright /x/bros give it to me straight. How do I manifest a big tiddy gf/wife? I want this right fucking now.

>>41008186
Exactly, now you're getting it

>>41008441
Imagine a scenario where it's already done, maybe you guys live together, or your family/friends comment on what a great couple you guys make; to make it extra solid imagine as though some time passed, like a month or even a year.

Every night go to sleep visualizing and feeling vividly you have a big tiddy wife next to you, you have planted the seed.
Then in the day know that this is coming to fruition, no matter what negative stuff or doubts may come.
In imagination aka the 4th dimension you have a big tiddy wife that you fall asleep with every evening, therefore it must come true IRL in the 3D since its the law.

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Man it's amazing how helpful and kind the anons in this general are, they help everyone, even responding to seemingly dumb/troll-ish posts.

>>41008596
It is nice. Don't think it's always been this way, but let's count our blessings

>>41008574
>>41008591
I still have a hard time believing that imagination straight up creates reality. Is this how rich guys become rich? They just visualize that they're rich.
Is there any specific recipe for this? I've heard of the list method.

>>41008646
Albeit they should stop feeding the trolls here, it benefits none.

>>41008647
It's not uncommon. Someone born into wealth will live with wealth in mind, just as someone poor will live with poverty in mind. What's great though is we can change our reality via our thoughts, as all that exist is what is within our perspective.
>I still have a hard time believing that imagination straight up creates reality. Is this how rich guys become rich? They just visualize that they're rich.
Many celebrities and athletes practice the law without knowing. How many times have you heard success stories of people saying they'd do something someday, they always saw them doing x or y, some even revise their daily events. Here's an example from Jim Carrey https://www.youtube.com/shorts/B9eip-OA_W8

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Okay, I'm pretty good with visualization and affirming, but revision is something I still have difficulty wrapping my head around. Anyone can help open my eyes on this one?

>>41008314
>never let anything limit your ambitions.
On my way to being a big tiddy futa with 9 inch cock, thanks

>>41008801
doctor dahesh did not let his assumptions limit him but did whatever he felt like doing, be more like him.

https://www.daheshism.com/index.php/dr-dahesh/miracles/miracles-dr-dahesh.html

>>41008804
Daheshism has karma as a main pillar.
So it can’t be law of assumption related which does not recognise objectively bad or good manifestations. No idea why you are posting this.

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>>41008737
The past isn't fixed in place and you are the cumulative of your imperfect subjective opinions on what might have happened

While it might feel factual, this is actually mental concrete that can be broken up and reinterpreted however you want - your mind will fill the gaps and morph the past to meet your present.

If you legitimately believe every event in your past has the purpose of giving you the best that reality has to offer, it'll arrange itself to meet that vision. The opposite is also true, and how many people do you know sit victim to the circumstances rather than using them as rungs on a ladder?

>>41008804
>>41008821
> Daheshists believe that since no one can transgress certain limits — ever — the prospect of peering into the realm of God is therefore impossible.
It’s actually anti-loa. Limiting beliefs and you are not the operant power.
Mother anon is amazing. He gets worse with every passing day. Is this a reflection of his poor mental diet?

>>41008821
i don't think Karma is necessarily antithetical to loa, when you live according to the perfect law you are by default living according to god's wishes. because of the mindset it puts you in it is impossible to do evil while still following the perfect law. but more importantly the case of dr dahesh shows me what is possible.

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I'm manifesting Elizabeth knocking on my door today at 3:48 pm and asking me to lick her stinky asshole.

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I know most of loa but i still dont get how to modify shit thats not people, me or simple stuff like cars.
Like if i wanted to change how fast the law works how do i do that

This is EXACTLY what I'm going to manifest

https://rule34.xxx/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=7949157&tags=urbanator++power_girl+

>>41008871
A scorecard whereby you accumulate or lose points according to deeds is not compatible because if you are living according to god’s wishes there is no point in such a thing. The score is done. Karma comes from other belief systems where generally there is no supreme god and you are trying to reach a state of zero karma and be free of the eternal cycle. I don’t see why you pick this guy when his belief set has direct inconsistencies to the law. It may be he did some miracles, it may be he didn’t but his system is way outside what this general is about.

>>41008917
Could you give an example of something you want?

>>41008825
>If you legitimately believe every event in your past has the purpose of giving you the best that reality has to offer, it'll arrange itself to meet that vision.
Everything works in my favor, the bridge of incidents. Think I know what you're getting at, thanks

>>41008917
Anon I've been asking that for months and almost nobody gives a straight answer. Neville says the speed/abilities comes from how strongly you believe but doesn't ever provide a method to actually bypass the bridge. Paolucci's UL theoretically would bypass it but there are still partial returns within his method which defeats the point. LilAnon swore up and down that the normal manifesting techniques can do it if you just believe harder, but never really explained how to shift the belief overton window (sats/trying to assume for a long time has failed empirically). triumphantgeorge says it's all detachment, but never explains the actual things you need to detach from (what do you detach from for instant materialization?). Now LoA definitely works but it's seems like nobody actually knows how to use it for higher things.

>>41006094
lilanon since you've returned could you respond to >>41009106

>>41009106
>>41008917
https://www.yourfaithisyourfortune.com/chapter-fifteen

the key is picking a date that feels natural to you making the process of self persuasion easier.

I'm not really visualizing, I'm kind of just deciding to not worry and tell myself the world will work everything out in my interest.

>>41009129
Ok, but what will I need to do to get things to start materializing? There was once an anon here who had crystals appear in his house, but whenever I try to manifest that I only get partial returns like seeing it in an ad or on sale in an online store.

>>41009106
Things become reality faster the more natural they feel to you. The purpose of techniques is to make things feel natural. With practice you'll be able to do things more quickly.

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Are there some things that you just CAN'T manifest? Like imagine a gay wrinkly old dude trying to manifest sucking your cock and fucking your butt. He lies in bed all day visualizing and living in a wish fulfilled state were the end result is you covered in his cum lying in bed with him, Cuddling naked. Or maybe he manifest a chain of events were you're somehow get drunk or roofied and he rapes you against will. Maybe the more stronger willed and less likely manifestations require the most time.

>>41007189
I just saw there was no thread up and posted it for everyone. I'm not trying to be the new thread poster, calm down.

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>>41008966
>A beautiful red headed stacy with perfect proportion of mathematical beauty both cute ans sexy at the same time who moggs every other woman out of tje water,....
I reslly cant visualize this, i want to have the law deliver more
>Teleportation
>Aristocratic mansion woth more stuff

Also i need to have my parents stop being wagies by december and send them on a cruise to the carribean

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>>41009535
Use this picture to visualize

>>41008938
Can I be power girl in this situation?

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>>41009662
Idk how to say it,
I want more.
She should be the best that can exist.
Im good at visualizing but this goes beyond what i currently did so i was wondering how i could do it trough affirmations

>>41009936
affirmations would be very effective for you because you stubbornly have something in mind like affirming to yourself you have a beautiful redhead girlfriend with gigantic tits hat deeply loves and obsesses over you willl definitely in imprint

>>41007612
>know the 7 passwords
Wat

>>41008271
>shot himself in a bunker in Berlin
You mean died of old age in Argentina.

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>>41009954
Arent affirmations meant to be more yknow shorter though.
Atleast ove read so on neville lectures

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Hello /loa/, hope everyone has a great day. Remember that abundance is a natural state and everything you want is possible.

>>41007585
Samefagging this. I've been exercising regularly my entire adult life to keep myself from crawling out of my skin. Phonefagging while stretching at the gym right now. Being in good shape is a nice side effect.

>>41006455
look up the most popular dildo size

>>41006462
if an 8in penis was ideal, due to sexual selection in a few generations every male on earth would’ve had one. if things averaged out at about 6-7in then this is supposed to be the most optimal size.

What happens if you try to manifest democracy?

Been Jim rohn, Earl Nightingale, Napoleon Hill and Brian Tracy maxxing for almost a week now. I can confirm from these sources that abundance is the natural state of man. It's not something to work for or fight and stake your life over it. It's literally natural for nature t produce on abundance and compensate for the perpetuation of the species, food for the predators, to compensate for the death of child morality while still having plenty over.


Now I want to suppose a theory for you anons and I would love to hear what you have to say. I 100% believe that mentalism is the highest law in the universe and can and has overridden lower laws before (second causes). However, I think that perhaps that working with second causes while wielding mentalism is the most efficient use of it. Example, I want to look really good looking and handsome. I dwell in the state of handsomeness (1st cause) but I don't go against the lower laws and work out, brush my teeth, take showers and put on cologne. I pick a hairstyle that suits my face shape and dress neatly. I feel like the reason why there are more billionaires and super rich millionaires are because they combine both the lower and and highest laws of the universe so there is only unity. I only theorize this because I have had success with secondary causes while also doing absolutely nothing and manifesting stuff out of thin air. I feel it would manifest quicker if I would work with both the lower laws and the highest law together rather than just using the highest. I feel there's some law of polarity playing in it. I don't know, I could be wrong.

>>41007425
>Personally I think chaos magic is totally different
Details? I'd like to hear your perspective

>>41009106
>LilAnon swore up and down that the normal manifesting techniques can do it if
Correct

>you just believe harder
"Harder" is probably a bad word for it. Believing it "more" involves accepting a belief rather than bursting a blood vessel, as Neville put it.

>but never really explained how to shift the belief overton window
How did I not? Changing your mind on things can allow you to accept new beliefs. One of the biggest problems Anons here had when I was here often was that they did not want to change- they demanded delivery of their desires when their current beliefs would not allow for it. A house divided cannot stand.

>what do you detach from for instant materialization?
The belief that it takes time for something to happen. You believe it takes time, then it does.

>it's seems like nobody actually knows how to use it for higher things
Why don't you? LOA is very personal, only you can say what's "important" to you. When I was working poor and starving, a slice of free pizza was a gift from heaven.

What do you want that you can't have? And why can't you have it? All of it comes down to you and what you think/believe

>>41011297

There is no law of polarity, you were just able to detach better which gave you less worry, less doubt and more living in the end.

>>41006125
>chaos magick is satanic and will send you to hell
lol, no. Funny take though

>>41010817
You can make that same argument for good looks, wide shoulders and tall height being ideal yet we don't see that often don't we. This thing is much more complex than simple sexual selection

>>41007598
>I'm not sure if anyone else has had this
I have, especially after I lowered my resistance for testing here in thread

>The thought of the impending manifestation will literally come from nowhere and then immediately manifest
It works because you have zero resistance to it.

>I'm not sure how this can be utilised when you have no control over it
You can use it as a reminder of how this works and work to get your manifestational thinking to work the same way.

You could also train yourself to think of certain things that pop in your head the same way. "This is a great day." "I'm lucky" "Something great is going to happen to me" etc.

>>41008271
>Jews are ultimate manifestators
Only if you believe they are. Personally I believe the people in charge are crap at it and are unworthy to lead.

>>41008737
>but revision is something I still have difficulty wrapping my head around
Time is an illusion. Manifestation is usually thought of as changing your future or present, but you can just as easily change your past.

It's actually scary how easy it is.

>>41011509
I don't know if I'm revising correctly, but I do alter and believe the events in the way I recount them. Is that feasible or should I do something more?

>>41011845
>Is that feasible or should I do something more?
You should feel a change once it sets. Have you felt anything or gotten a return so far?

>>41011985
I've mostly done revision for days/encounters that I previously thought did not go so well. The one thing I have noticed is that those days/encounters ended up not having a lingering negative impact on me at all; even though in a normal setting it would.

>>41012103
Good job! Neville recommends doing this, his "Pruning shears of revision." The fact that you are eliminating the negative impact is great, if you of a mind you can probably go from being neutral result to positive result as an upgrade.

If time travel is impossible there are a lot of things I'll never be able to do, even with loa. Sometimes I think it's all or nothing for me. My tests become reality breaking, reality shifting level feats.

>>41006455
There are studies on this. The researchers used real dildos made in different sizes. I don't remember if the participants were western women or if they controlled for ethnicity or culture. If you find it, post the findings here, because I forgot the ideal length and girth. I think it's better to be on the bigger side if you value loyalty, because it would be harder for her to have sex the day after you do it.
I want to revise my past so that I mined bitcoin in the early days and I never sold it or lost it.

>>40999652
So I had a thought the other day related to this subject. I saw another anon talking about how cameras, in a roundabout way, actually do steal a little bit of your soul by “collapsing the wave function.” This got me thinking, what if all of the surveillance and cameras, smartphones and tracking of everything by a cabal whose symbol is literally an all-seeing eye, isn’t really being done to track dissidents or potential resistance to their agenda? What if the surveillance of everything and analyzing all of this data through AI is being done to collapse the wave form of the whole earth? And that the actual end-game agenda of this entire project is to limit possibilities achievable through LOA? How can imagination, egregores, magick, etc. guide reality after there’s an automated concrete observer everywhere at all times collapsing the wave function? I’m starting to think it’s all these cameras making the world feel more spiritually dead

>>41011509
>it’s a Lilanon time travel episode.
He could reverse Covid right? But I bet this new series doesn’t have the budget and we just get some snappy one liners,

>>41000090
>Life is fucking sucks, and it only beautiful because I thought it beautiful.

>>41011509
There is one event I'd like to change in particular. I once shared information I shouldn't have and someone else took blame for it. It's something that's stuck with me. Any advice on how to revise this? Sorry for bothering, been at it for a while and just have trouble really grasping it

>>41012489
I am going to say I don’t believe Lilanon as his version of revision is totally different from Neville. Neville always remembers the past event, he doesn’t change it, he just updates his mindset,
Assuming Lilanon has not changed his story, when he did it he forgot what he changed,
So you have to switch out the normal teaching source (Neville) and use Lilanon as the guru instead. Maybe he is. Just saying is all.
Also this whole thing makes no sense. If you really did remove the vent from your past you would never know as it never happened. This may be a very bad thing.

Guys, I have a girl Im interested in.

I already made progress with her via ladder technique but used for girls.

My question is, because Im hyper ethical guy, how do I decide?

Because, like she is technically an SP, but, Im not sure shes right for me.

Im also not sure I fully want her as her teeth are kinda bad and she is on the older side.

My body and mind want her but my Soul says NO!

No matter how much I want my Soul to like her, I feel in my gut like "NO!" hahaha.

My Soul is right on people tho, been since always. So im hesitant to continue manifesting the SP.

I like her, shes most beautiful (physically) girl I know and she has a cute quality I love a lot. But also she is kinda cold and hard to read. (mostly due to my feelings for her, I suppose, it clouds a lot of intuition)

Can anyone help?

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>>41011405
this is odd 'cause we are told fleeting thoughts are not assumptions and thus don't manifest, or else our lives would be beyond chaotic if every or half our fleeting thoughts were to manifest, just think of it, yet certain fleeting thoughts do "manifest" I have experienced amazing synchronicities first hand, and I mean random fleeting thoughts that have nothing to do with my manifestation goals

>>41007598
I swear this has happened to me so much too but I don't know if it's even real or if it's like my brain firing up as soon as I hear it and then thinking it happened - but then it also does feel like I had it in my head before I heard it, very strange.

>>41012734
My theory is synchronicities are a way to wake yourself up if you want to. They happen to show you reality is connected to your mind somehow. They still happen after you've accepted manifestation is real, but it could be a law that this reality must follow to give you a chance to awaken. After all, you still have doubts even after you've accepted everything is imagined or made of thought.

>>41012874
alright this sounds logical, i have read stories of people who have started meditating and started to experience many wild synchronicities, something about our dimensionally greater self trying to tell us something, and here i am not even talking about "signs" and synchronicities that have something to do with one's own manifestation goals but rather the random fleeting thoughts

>>41011463
I have definitely noticed that there's a link between resistance or forcing it and manifestation. Another observation I've had is times where I've really wanted something to happen, and tried to manifest it, and it didn't, and then eventually I give up wanting it and move on, and then it happens. You're right if I can train myself to have these thoughts appear seemingly randomly then it would be almost having control over it, I'll have to try it out, cheers.
>>41012736
I've had the same doubts too which is why sometimes I don't even register it properly, but occasionally the delay must clearly be enough between thought and manifestation that it's noticeable.

>>41013111
Thanks bro

>>41013111
What about a tingling in my dingus?

>>41011412
I doubt that. I think there are lower laws and the highest law. I don't think you could constantly think health drinking alcohol and eating goyslop but maintain Olympic health. But I do think you could negate the effects of mcdonalds by concentrating. I think mind is at the end of it all but there are lower laws that effect us for the most part. Its how you explain miracles, it's simply mind acting over lower laws, I just don't think you could be in that state constantly through out your whole life. I think using lower laws and the highest law in union would make manifesting a lot quicker

>>41011405
Welcome back trip king. I remember a long time ago saying you practiced cerimonal magick if I'm not mistaken. I've recently gotten into golden dawn material and I want your opinion on this, do you think that cerimonal magick is just some short cut commands to weird states of consciousness? I've done goetic magick with the exercises and daily rituals outline in the self inition book like the LBRP and middle pillar exercise and I've had such surges of energy and crazy astral dreams to say the least. I never imagined how the effects would be and it makes me wonder if it's just ancient short cut commands that were used and believed by so many people it becomes some sort of ctrl alt delete shortcut to this weird experiences. What is your opinion? To give more context I think it's all in your head and I've proven it through experience, I enjoy the drama and art of cerimonal magick

>>40999652
>You influence life at all

All of existence is but a flash. You were just conceived and have died. Everything that will happen has already happened, everything that has happened has yet to happen. There is no such thing as time or space. There is no reality, nothing you do matters because you were never here to begin with. "Here" was never here. "Now" never was, is, or will be. The entirety of your "existence" is but smattering of energy flying outward with no substance and no point. All the good you do doesn't matter. All the bad you do doesn't matter. Nothing matters because nothing is all there is.

In the event the above is wrong, then this is but one of an infinite number of realities, the actions of which are predetermined from the choices of a different reality, so even at the most optimistic outlook possible, your actions are predetermined and free will, the basis of all concepts of morality, is an outright impossibility.

In the event BOTH of the above are incorrect and there is indeed a sole universal creator that knows all there is and will be, your actions are, yet again, predetermined to fit that beings role and free will cannot exist in that scenario either.

You cannot possibly change your fate.

>>41013188
it's not 2017 anymore, materialist dogma is out of fashion now

>>41013188
>fate
coping mechanism for the weak of mind

>>41013203
Frog says it works.
This vexes me.
I don’t trust the frog poster. Now if it was Lilanon or another reliable authority.

>>41013502
Strange mindset. Think for yourself

>>41013520
I did and I don’t think anyone should trust this frog >>41013203 or any other frog in this thread. I think it’s a sharty manifestation invasion.

>>41013188
In my experience I have free will and no one outside of me can ever change that unless I allow it. I choose to have free will and therefore I do.

>>41013540
Fair

Jews won't leave me alone and keep BLOCKING my manifestations. What can i do?

>>41013779
jews are adept at working from shadows, so you must bring them into the light so that everyone may see them for what they are. take their power away from them and demanifest them from your life.

Alright, fuck this. I'm going to get a little bit more fit. And then start visualizing hot wife + kids.

>>40999652
i will never escape manlet hell will i /loa/bros...

Why manifest something material? It will only give a short lived euphoria and then there is the need to continue looking for more and more material stuff and the cycle continues. The only way to experience true happiness is through a Spiritual discipline. Also funnily enough if you practice them you might even get what you wanted or realize that you never needed/wanted anything. This LoA practice also causes useless suffering.

Anyway, good luck to all of you whatever it is that you are doing!

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>Jackpot
https://coolwisdombooks.com/neville/neville-goddard-the-law-and-the-promise-1961-full-book/
search for chapter five/subtle threads.
Neville describes how some guys win horse racing betting.
>>41013904
I can tell you it works for bones, got +4incjes height, sharper jaw and more looks stuff.
Two days and im goona have my first exam(more because they divided in two each) of like 5.
Will report how they went later

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>>41012452
>He could reverse Covid right?
I could probably reverse it for myself, but even though I've had Covid-chan visit me multiple times for long periods I have enjoyed the results of it.

If you want COVID to go away for you, you are going to have to do it yourself.

>>41012489
>I once shared information I shouldn't have and someone else took blame for it. It's something that's stuck with me. Any advice on how to revise this?
Yes, focus on how you had the strong urge to keep your mouth shut back then until it sets, then let go.

You know how you have a strong "gut feeling" not to do something? You regretting something in the "future" could explain it in some cases.

FYI, forgot my trip Salty :) >>41012452

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>>41000090
Better OP pic here

>>41012694
>I am going to say I don’t believe Lilanon
Ok

> he doesn’t change it
That conflicts with what Neville says and what we have demonstrated works.

>when he did it he forgot what he changed
I think you missed a crucial detail. I remember what I manifested I was changing, but the actual events changed and I have no idea what was there beforehand. I suspect some Anons could remember both sets of events, some really great /x/ posts and an Anon in this thread have reported a Stein's Gate type of ability where they are aware of the alternate "streams" of outcomes.

More specifically Neville is targeting a specific state and a limited timeframe. The unemployed man and the misbehaving girl- his scope of change(s) is limited to more recent states. I targeted my entire life. He remembers what he wanted to change because it was his manifestation. He beholds the new state and knows that it worked.

Does that make sense?

>So you have to switch out the normal teaching source
There's not conflict, so why would you? I've asked you this before, why are you assuming Neville couldn't do it if I and other Anons can? Our successes lend weight to Neville's claims, which funny enough, you are questioning.

>If you really did remove the vent from your past you would never know as it never happened. This may be a very bad thing.
That's correct. I have no idea what I lost by revising those events, only what I intended to prune off. I do feel overall "better" since I did that though, so on some deeper level I think I have awareness of my previous state.

I both recommend it and don't to Anons- your failures and tribulations help you grow stronger, but by the same token you will reach a point where you realize suffering is meaningless and that you were always the author of your story. Pick up the pen when you are ready

>>41012730
>No matter how much I want my Soul to like her, I feel in my gut like "NO!" hahaha.
SPs can be dangerous for the reasons you listed. If you want to date this girl and have some fun, by all means, but know that she is potentially dangerous to you.

If you want to do the smart thing, use the General Person method and list the qualities that you want and believe she is perfect for you. A much better method, but don't ask for something you don't absolutely want, it can spoil the whole batch.

>>41012734
>this is odd 'cause we are told fleeting thoughts are not assumptions and thus don't manifest
Who told you that?

>or else our lives would be beyond chaotic if every or half our fleeting thoughts were to manifest, just think of it
Indeed, now you know why your mind resists you when you try to manifest things you don't fully believe in. It's a safety mechanism. If you have a mind that spews "random" garbage that's what your life would look like (or does).

Belief is the way you tell mind that it's ok to manifest it if your safety filter is working. Your entire life is built on those beliefs. If your safety filter is weak then things slip through.

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>>41014072
>>>41014072
>General Person
Do you like have a link for that?
Also do you know anyway to change other people, and manifest for them?

>>41013031
>eventually I give up wanting it and move on, and then it happens
This is the letting go part. First, you define your desire, then you focus on it until it sets. After you let go it happens.

And yes, I know it can be hard to let go. I caused a pause in a massive storm the other day, I was too focused on needing my desire that minute to really let go. A few minutes later when I wasn't as focused on it I was able to fully let go of it and the clouds cleared and the rain stopped over the area I was in for about 15 mins.

>>41014063
>That conflicts with what Neville says and what we have demonstrated works.
In both of Neville’s examples in The Pruning Shears of Revision the event still exists and he still remembers it. That’s a fact.

>>41014088
It's something i can't comprehend, for example someone would have fleeting thought about him getting into a car accident that leaves him severely injured or someone could spend countless years contemplating suicide every hour in the day but he ends up dying a natural death even after decades of thinking about roping or jumping from a bridge regularly, forgive my cynical examples but what I am trying to say is that we are having trillions of fleeting and stray thoughts daily, I have thought of lots, lots, lots, and lots of messed up shit that would happen to me since i have awful anxiety and O.C.D (meditation and the law are helping me a lot now, thankfully) but non of them or most of them have not happened.

Okay, I guess you are saying the stronger our belief and conviction of certain thoughts the higher the likehood of 'em manifesting, also a lot of our thoughts get neutralized, someone might have fleeting thoughts about dying in a car accident but he than realizes it's a low probability and there are various safety measures he can take, the more positive thoughts end up neutralizing ehe negative ones and offering a relief.

>>41014153
>>41014088
the negative ones and offering a relief*

>>41013152
>Welcome back trip king
Thank you :)

>I remember a long time ago saying you practiced cerimonal magick if I'm not mistaken
I did but it was hit or miss because I didn't know the belief was important. When I did believe, I had amazing results. When I was unsure I usually got weak or no results.

>do you think that cerimonal magick is just some short cut commands to weird states of consciousness?
It's a way to focus. The ritual tools, incense and garb are a way to get your mind into another thinking frame than your slumming around the mortal world mindset. You could think of that as a state of consciousness

>I've done goetic magick with the exercises and daily rituals
I used to hang around with a bunch of Goetics and Enochians back in the day. I'm surprised they accepted me as much as they did, I was very into chaos magick at the time and working to shed ritual and tools.

>What is your opinion? To give more context I think it's all in your head and I've proven it through experience
So, it's a little weird about that. The spirits you are working with are "real," but they are real because we dreamt them up. At the Monad level, there is only "us," so anyone you see or interact with, including them, is just "us" wearing a mask.

I used to have a lot of trouble accepting that oneness level, even when I witnessed it firsthand, because I didn't want it to be true that "we" alone in the void. I've come to a little better acceptance level of it, but it's not what I was hoping for.

>I enjoy the drama and art of cerimonal magick
By all means do it if you find it enjoyable- just don't fall into the trap of mistaking the form for the function. You are a great magician because you are The Creator of everything, not because you were speaking the correct secret language incantation, wearing the right robes and had the proper wand or sword that day. It's because you thought it into reality and accepted it as such.

>>41013779
>Jews won't leave me alone
You're the operant power, why are you letting someone or something else stop you?

>>41013929
>This LoA practice also causes useless suffering
Fulfilling desires is the easiest way to get over them. LOA leads to enlightenment.

>>41014063
>why are you assuming Neville couldn't do it if I and other Anons can
Neville’s listed achievements are mundane. He got a ticket to Barbados, he got out of the draft. His manifestations are down to earth.
Yours involve massive cosmic events, becoming undead, unravelling time and space,
You are not doing the same thing.

>>41014100
>General Person
>Changing other people and manifesting for them
>Do you like have a link for that?
Neville talks about all of these subjects. The method never changes regardless of what you want to do. Use your favorite technique after you determine what you want to do until it sets, then let go.

>>41014133
>The Pruning Shears of Revision the event still exists and he still remembers it. That’s a fact.
Post it. Neville claims the person changes. The unemployed man is employed, the misbehaving girl is now behaving. Are you arguing those points?

>>41014179
I see thanks for your info. I grew up and eventually converted to traditional Christianity so it was a huge jump, but once "summoning" and doing the rituals and really seeing it's just my subconscious belief that demons are scary and actual "things" outside of me, it was so mind blowing. It really is all mind and it cemented my belief further. Even crowley thought the goetia was just parts of your psyche.

>"we" alone in the void.
Yes, could be a reason why I enjoy studying and performing cerimonal magick. I got a flash insight that it never ends (up to kether to return to malkuth once again)
while I was watching the 4th evangelion, and just accepted I get to play this game forever and ever. No need to go super hard on any one carnation, I'll eventually come back and play it all once again. Or maybe not, I honestly have no credible proof.

>You are a great magician because you are The Creator
Couldn't have said it better myself (: I've jumped so quickly with adapting to the "aether" regardie would shit his pants. It's crazy he understood it's all the God head play but thought Neville to be foolish. He was the one who Neville talks about gripping the chair and planting his feet into the carpet. I wonder what "he's" doing now.

>>41014153
>It's something i can't comprehend, for example someone would have fleeting thought about him getting into a car accident...
You're trying to get into someone else's head. This is all about you. And yes, someone can get into a car accident with a fleeting thought of it happening. The suicide example is bad because you are saying he is thinking about it but not whether he chooses to or not.

>what I am trying to say is that we are having trillions of fleeting and stray thoughts daily
You have busy brain. I have almost no stray thoughts anymore.

> i have awful anxiety and O.C.D
That's a terrible belief to have about yourself

>but non of them or most of them have not happened
Lucky for you, you seem to have a good amount of resistance. You seem aware that your thoughts are dangerous to you, so you resist them.

What would happen if you didn't resist them?

>Okay, I guess you are saying the stronger our belief and conviction of certain thoughts the higher the likehood of 'em manifesting
Probably not the way you think. This is all very personal- if you think something without resistance no belief is required. It's done. If you are resisting it, you just need to believe it more than you resist it and it's done.

>also a lot of our thoughts get neutralized
^This. All our thoughts have power, most of that power is us keeping ourselves in check. You have unlimited power, you could erase everything around you with a single though. Luckily you haven't yet, right?

>>41014229
Whoa there skippy.
One at a time.
The event still exists because he writes about it so no point in debating that he remembers it. You don’t, so there are fundamental differences between your version and his. Even you are not that insane to try and refute (I assume)?
Your version of revision differs substantially. Let’s see whether we agree on that first?

>>41014201
>Neville’s listed achievements are mundane
>His manifestations are down to earth
You're ignoring huge portions of his manifestation career. Of course he started slow, his belief was weak. That's why he's a good teacher for this thread- he was a poor student that progressed to becoming a fully realized Christ/Creator. You don't need special talents or to be some sort of chosen one to become great, just the willingness to persist and believe.

>Yours involve massive cosmic events
>unravelling time and space
Neville did both of these things. He probably could have done the Undead thing, but he was more bible oriented so decided to become Christ instead.

>You are not doing the same thing
We are all doing the same thing. There are no "levels" of LOA, only awareness of it. Manifesting a sneeze is as difficult/easy as manifesting a new life.

Why are you so salty? How do you benefit from trying to disprove something we've already independently proven?

>>41014299
I don’t believe I am ignoring Neville’s accomplishments but if you can provide me with some of his incredible examples on the level of your world shattering actions I will NEVER make this claim again. But they need to be Lilanon-tier.

>>41014268
>The event still exists because he writes about it so no point in debating that he remembers it
This is not as clear as you think it is. Try to explain why you think this negates Neville having made this work. Detailed.

>You don’t
I do though. I remember my manifestation perfectly and the reasoning behind it and what in general it was targeting.

>Even you are not that insane to try and refute
How am I insane if I believe you are reading Neville wrong? I read it and it dovetails with my perspective and we have tested it independently here. I am asking you to provide more detail as to why you think Neville said something different because I am curious to see if you found something or not. Theories need to be tested wherever possible.

>Your version of revision differs substantially. Let’s see whether we agree on that first?
I don't agree- the only difference is in scope. Neville probably revised back a few days. I revised my entire life.

Correct me if I am wrong, but one of the assertions you are trying to make is that Neville never actually changed the past? I could accept that, but the problem with this idea is that we proved it could be done as Neville wrote it, so you could not call it impossible for him to have done so.

>>41014309
>But they need to be Lilanon-tier
Ok, so please give me an example of a "Lilanon-tier" item you want me to compare it to. Most of my stuff feels amateur level to me now that I'm back in "everything is easy" mode.

>>41014373
We are back at square one.
> He got a ticket to Barbados, he got out of the draft. His manifestations are down to earth.
However according to loa general lore you because a vampire who was friend with the fae and werewolves as well as ageing at half speed and one time rejecting unity with god/the cosmos/higher power.
There would appear to be a power level gap here.

>>41014366
Today
>I remember my manifestation perfectly and the reasoning behind it and what in general it was targeting.
https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/39095561/#q39111270
Back then
>I remember making the change and that it was important, but whatever events that it addressed are gone now
Seems your memory has improved with time. Anyway. Neville knows the exact event, your is wiped. For Neville the event is never changed, he just views it differently to affect the future. In your case you are changing the past.
Totally different.

>>41014373
>everything is easy
The king is back. I cannot dispute this. It is done.

>>41013188
You have to be 18 to post here

>>41014193
Trvke
Buddha had an easy path to enlightenment because he grew up with everything he could have ever wanted.

>>41014574
Which he abandoned. So he didn’t have them.
Which is the whole point. Did you forget your frog image sharty man?

>>41014627
You can't abandon something you don't have. Don't you have classes to attend?

>>41014627
By the way, if you continue this thread I'll move on to assuming you're gay for me, fair warning.

>>41014640
> he grew up with everything he could have ever wanted.
You must be on cocaine and shrooms at the same time >>41014627 said he had everything he wanted. Buddha then left these behind. Are you totally smacked out?
>>41014647
Based. I respect this. Manifesting this to never end.

>>41014667
I meant >>41014574 said Buddha had everything he ever wanted. Sorry I was living in the end with >>41014647 and therefore made a typo.
But like Buddha and Neville I can let go.

>>41014387
>We are back at square one.
We are, but I don't understand why

>He got a ticket to Barbados, he got out of the draft.
Yes, but his pre and post Promise works are not mundane. Are you saying you don't believe what he wrote, or that you believe it was all psychological?

>unity with god/the cosmos/higher power
Neville was doing this in stages. His Promise visions were a manifestation of that.

>There would appear to be a power level gap here.
I don't see one. Neville fully realized himself as the Father/Son (Creator/Child of the Creator) by the end of his life. The point of contention here about whether he altered the past for people with his Pruning Shears "everywhere he went" would easily qualify him for what you might consider "beyond God Tier" even without his receiving of The Promise.

>>41014413
>>I remember my manifestation perfectly and the reasoning behind it and what in general it was targeting.
>>I remember making the change and that it was important, but whatever events that it addressed are gone now
It's just a phrasing thing, it's just tricky because I don't want to share the details. This is what it was like had I made myself immune to the flu instead:

I want to be immune to the flu. I manifest being immune to the flu since birth. I suddenly remember people saying "That's weird, you've never had the flu before? Maybe you're immune?" I can't remember having the flu before. But I know I just manifested being immune to the flu, was I always immune to it?

>Anyway. Neville knows the exact event
This is a good point, but he is not root causing the whole thing the way I did. He is simply changing something he saw that day into something else. The change happens at the point he commands, the state he changed is still valid before that.

The unemployed man was still unemployed before the change, and the misbehaving girl was still misbehaving up until that weekend. Had they gone back farther? Interesting question.

>>41014674
It's more of a proof that those things aren't valuable. It's the same as him being prophesied to conquer the world. It's not as if he conquered the world, and found it sufficed. In fact it may not suffice

>>41014676
>the promise
This is likely where we cannot reach agreement as I think this is not part of his manifestation work and it is his later mystical writings that are not really manifestation related and nearly sunk his career. I don’t see the promise as something he manifested, rather it is a state that is unrelated entirely to his work on the law of assumption. So if you are considering the promise as something sort of Uber-manifestation on the level of your mighty vampiric transformation then I don’t agree.
However I do not want to get into promise-anon style arguments as him and you never ever resolved those either.

>>41009535
>>41009936
the problem with people or humans is free will
you can wish for a car or a new boat because it's just an item. it's just a thing.

but people, humans have their own free will and their own destiny.
you can only wish to meet someone if it aligns with their destiny.

>>41014717
Your argument was Neville never had any god tier manifestations, and now you throw out one of his god tier manifestations. How can you expect anyone to take you seriously now?

>>41014676
what happenes if 2 people wish for opposite things? what then

>>41013988
What technique did you do and how much time did you do it?

>>41014717
>This is likely where we cannot reach agreement as I think this is not part of his manifestation work
That makes sense. If you're not onboard for when his mysticism grew wings there's not a lot to see there.

The thing is, that's basically what happened to me. I wanted to be a successful occultist and I had some wild successes because even though I am a STEM to my fingertips I am an /x/phile to the bone and wanted to see it all. I got to see a LOT, but there is probably still more.

Regarding The Promise, I went through it myself without knowing anyone else who had. From that perspective, Neville's experience was very bible based, but that should be no surprise, he made the bible his identity. I believe he did it, and that is the last barrier in LOA to pass.

Keep in mind, I got my Promise before I learned the Law. That gave me a big head start that Neville never had, but he did have an Abdullah.

>I don’t see the promise as something he manifested
We manifest everything in our lives. There is no "mundane" / "mystical" split in our lives. That was one of my biggest blocks from occulting and religion, believing spirit and matter were separate.

>then I don’t agree
And that is your right, but that is the centerpoint of LOA- you are not a human, you are God playing as a human. Manifestion is when you change your mind about how you are playing.

>However I do not want to get into promise-anon style arguments as him and you never ever resolved those either.
I can understand that, but Promise Anon was an epic level shitposter. He admitted at times that he knew how it worked and what Neville had done, but he was having too much fun messing with me to actually keep with the act entirely.

I found it useful because I wanted to validate the concept and he helped me do it by playing devil's advocate. I even manifested the vision of David, proving that Neville had manifested the visions, they had not come from some sort of "Higher" Higher power. It's us.

>>41009535
have you tried using AI to manifest? create the perfect woman using AI for a picture and add your's to the image.

>>41014874
Lilanon what does it mean to accept a belief?

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manifesting can be goofy.
I kept manifesting for a red car and eventually this was given to me.....
har har har jokes on me.

>>41015232
You did SATS for it?