>how to jump between dimensions
Finally the great disruption has begun. This is no longer a /loa/ general. Now it’s got this mixed in.
This is fine though. I expected this. In fact I manifested it.

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>>41088555
>It's pretty fucking amazing. I don't want IRL money anymore or any of that shit. i just want to cruise the galaxy now.
This is the endgame of LoA. This is also what Paolucci calls FFE, what George calls "The Infinite Grid ", what Castaneda called "Silent Knowledge" and Neville called "The Promise". The ultimate state. You get everything you want from this world, and the next step naturally is going beyond.

>>41088600
Castenada was a fiction writer.

>>41088609
And Neville told you that there is no fiction.

They gon' see the end before they see the end of me

>>41088613
There is though.
Harry Potter isn’t real. You can’t go to Hogwarts.
It’s fiction. Some woman made it up.

>>41088627
So Neville was wrong.

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Tfw you assumed, persisted, and lived in the end

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>>41088589
bro, that was my success report.

I disappeared from this place for about 9 months so i could chase this stuff i manifested using sats. I wanted to see if this schizo magic shit was real and it turns out it was. Then i wanted to know if that christian bullshit was real and it turns out it is. For me at least.

You guys need to keep this stuff LOA. I'm not trying to add castaneda into the mix. i'm just telling you what happened.

Also i came here to reinforce that Law of assumption and universal line work.

there are other threads for magic etc.

hope that helps
good luck anon

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>>41088714
>You guys need to keep this stuff LOA. I'm not trying to add castaneda into the mix. i'm just telling you what happened.
Castaneda is not LoA, and doesn't belong here, i'll give you that.
DimensionalJumping IS LoA, and even have a Neville section, and the main guy running it was a Neville enthusiast that incorporated his teachings in a more straightforward manner. By this logic, we may as well just chop the OP in half and left out all the progress this general has made too (I know you didn't mean it like that, just saying).
The guy you're replying too it's just a troll, and can't make contributions for shit, so you're wasting your energy in someone that doesn't deserve it.
Universal Line is also not LoA, but the original title of this general since inception was, is and always will be "/LoA/ - Law of Assumption and MANIFESTATION General", not just "/LoA/" as the last entries did. Nobody has bothered to put everything in place because the people who gave a fuck left, so someone have to step up, SO the next wave of users can find the useful stuff immediately instead of wasting their time.
Play time is over. It's time to get serious.

I was watching some videos on synchronization, and i think it has interesting applications for loa. one key aspect was that synchronization seems to have a phase transition, where above that, synchronization actively begins to affect and eventually align a system with another, but not below that. i'm not really sure i believe the people are always manifesting all the time idea, because that would make runaway effects very pronounced in the general population, and it seems like the general population sticks at a baseline. i feel like a phase transition makes a lot of sense to explain why most people seem to stay around equilibrium, although that can also be explained by constantly changing manifestations averaging out. however, if constant manifestations were in effect, we should be able to see very deluded people having disproportionate successes with their manifestations, and that is not what we see, even though some anons have reported intermediate success with spamming affirmations. instead, it may be more likely that these spamming affirmations happened to be often and lucky enough to push the 3d world into alignment with the internal world, being numerous enough to jump over the phase transition and targeted in the right directions to synchronize the two states, kind of like pushing a swing at the right time to make the swing higher and higher. (by wave motion i don't mean going forward and back towards a desired outcome, but thinking of both the internal and 3d world as a wave that we are nudging to a better amplitude and phase. it might be easier to think of "reality" as a combination of your internal imagination as one wave, the 3d world as another wave, and "reality" being a combination of both of these waves.) this theory also seems to explain why starting small is successful, once you break that phase transition, then it is much easier to continue from there to apply more changes. will continue with practical implications

>>41088589
I do not want to hear about reality-shifting ever again

>>41088914
If Law of Attraction is the dumbed down version of Law of Assumption, then Reality Shifting is the dumbed down version of Dimensional Jumping. Degradation of ideas and obstruction of central truths in order to sell you on something.

>>41088714
useful memes, thank you, sadly not many discuss that topic of first person versus third person perspective

>>41088946
high IQ post

Core Mindset Shifts for Daily Thinking

Embody Infinity Over Lack: Start every day by reminding yourself that you're not a limited human scrambling for resources—you're infinite consciousness expressing itself. When thoughts of "I need more money" arise, reframe them as "I am the source of all wealth, and it's unfolding through me." This isn't positive thinking; it's a recognition of truth. During mundane moments (like brushing your teeth or commuting), pause and ask: "What would my infinite self know right now?" The answer is always abundance, not scarcity.
Desire as Creation, Not Need: As we discussed, desire isn't a hole to fill—it's your infinite nature playfully expanding. For your financial return, view the jackpot or windfall as an already-existing reality you're tuning into. Think: "This desire is my creation calling itself into form." Avoid attaching "how" or "when"—that's the ego's job. Instead, feel the excitement of it as if it's happening now, without urgency.
Reality as Your Projection: Everything in your day is a mirror of your inner state. If bills stress you out, see them as neutral data points in your creation, not threats. Shift by thinking: "I created this experience to remind me of my power—now I choose abundance." This turns daily frustrations into opportunities to realign.

>>41088839
with this theory, PLL and AUG techniques should work better than just imagining the final state over time. basically instead of just imagining the end, it should be more effective to first take into account the difference between the 3d and internal, then eliminating noise from the difference to just take into account the consistent deviations, and then manifesting the opposite of what went wrong, the desired effect that should've happened.

i think most people do this already, so the magic is really in accounting for synchronization phases, so that previous internal states or (i feel like) to a lesser degree, previous manifestations don't begin deconstructively interacting with the 3d to undo progress. basically, whenever noticing new sudden synchronization changes from manifestations or synchronicities, disregarding more of the past and building off of the current state when manifesting, which I guess is kind of like using previous successful manifestations, just not directly. has anyone tried using this difference manifesting before? i might start trying this technique, although with manifestation, maybe just thinking that this technique will be more successful will make it more successful :)

>>41088555
>The only problem is that it takes "power" to do any of that and charging yourself up to get that "power" is a pain in the ass.
Why make an arbitrary rule for yourself?

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>>41089098
>techniques should work better than just imagining the final state over time
I wanted to talk about techniques for instance. Considering that techniques are infinite variations (let it be prayer, sats, meditation, sigils, doing some bizarre dance, shouting "nigger!" from the top of your lungs, visualization, candles, divination, or any other ritual for that effect), techniques are only a personal expression in your experience, an aesthetic of choice and something to make things more fun. But i think that your returns comes entirely from knowing that you can do it, just like that. Once you know that things come essentially from the intent of change and breaking patterns in your world, you become more flexible, because your existence as consciousness is what its doing the job for you.

At that point, you could even create your own system from the arrangement of things you have absorbed so far and have resonated with you the most, keeping what you like the most and removing what's not useful. Personally, i stick to my pragmatical ways, and my own magic system is a fusion between TG (Oneirosophy) and UL. Totally effortless.

>>41089168
this may be the key, i call it a phase transition of when manifesting first works, but for other people it could be encountering neville, in UL i think it might be realizing the i am of being the UL, but I might be wrong, I am not very familiar with UL.

But beyond that, I feel like a lot of problems that people encounter with manifestation should be because of a failure in the core technique rather than poor execution, where the successes come from occasional overlapping with the techniques and the ideal perfect technique. with enough people using visualization it's definitely the route to take imo, but i feel like it's clear that the visualization needs to be applied differently than most teachers are teaching it, otherwise manifestation would be much more successful. maybe the technique only applies individually by creating a new technique with enough imagined potential or power in their mind, but since most people get results from some sort of visualization, i think there should be some sort of shared technique that should work more "objectively", even if it could be refined per-person better

>>41089134
This is something i never got from this anon. To any UL user that stuck to the teachings, they eventually realize that everything can be without effort or strain, and that they really don't need any other material. For someone so well versed in this stuff, i would expect a synthesis that extract useful ideas from somewhere and just adapt it to his dream swiftly instead of just keep going with the pain. But well, maybe some people like that, after all, their dream, their rules...

>>41089219
>I feel like a lot of problems that people encounter with manifestation should be because of a failure in the core technique rather than poor execution
It's more about ignoring the forest for the trees, really. If they knew who they really were, they won't rely on methods, they would just incorporate or infuse themselves in the knowledge of having control over the domain, while soft peddling perception-experience. Also, if the technique operate in a lower level truth, the you have lower level actions and lower level results, that takes more unnecessary strain from the user part (Like cleaning the kitchen with a toothbrush instead of a mop). Mastery is all about doing things in an absolutely effortless manner.
>with enough people using visualization it's definitely the route to take imo
The route to take, imo, it's the one you like the most (smile)
>otherwise manifestation would be much more successful
Manifestation it's always successful. Any problem it's simply not seeing that.
>i think there should be some sort of shared technique that should work more "objectively"
That will never happen. UL gives you an array of techniques that literally doesn't demands nothing at all from the user, and yet a lot of people screw up with those simple instructions. But if they accepted facts and open themselves to "the bigger picture", they would realize where the return is actually coming from. Any "perfect technique" chaser it's heading towards a dead end, every time.

>>41089219
what about combining meditation with visualizing or visualizing after a meditation session

>>41089269
>what about combining meditation with visualizing or visualizing after a meditation session
This is a good one. You just simply sit quietly and meditate with the intent of your content of attention (visualization) being manifested. Simple as. I think if you're really grounded on your knowledge on how reality works so far, you will just go for the machine gun approach and repeat the most easier one until it works. You have to internalize that every action you do, it always have an intended effect. This is the original meaning of karma.

>>41089219
just had another thought, similar to UL or in certain neville-derived aspects where people imagine a higher self or the UL, i commonly hear shifting people talk about successes when they connect with their higher self in the void state or whatever. so i think a higher self/state is probably another step in the right direction, but in my mind it makes more sense for the higher self to not be a separate being but just the combination of personal and 3d states.

>>41089266
i think the problem partially comes from asserting that there is complete control over the combination/UL, when most people either don't realize they have it or have so much baggage telling them they don't that they don't have it in practicality. maybe this is an amplitude problem where people need to increase the power of their realization or power until it is equal or greater to the power they assign to the 3d, but i feel like it's less likely that it's that people are too weak to change things and are rather just not used to adjusting their manifestation to be powerful, something that happens implicitly with realizing UL. maybe this could mean focusing more on "strength" when visualizing rather than fidelity, which seems backed up by UL (i think) focusing more heavily on the connection to the UL which would strengthen their visualizations rather than just doing it "the right way"

>>41089269
i feel like it shouldn't matter, as long as the visualization are targeting the things i talked about before, key sustained differences between internal and 3d, and taking into account maybe the power. but i haven't tried any of these, i'm just spitballing after having a thinking emoji

>>41089308
same anon, replace power with strength (that you already have) in the previous post, i don't like the idea of power, it feels too limiting, and i feel like neville is pretty clear on people having the power already and just needing to visualize/direct it correctly

>>41089134
That guy is a massive schizo, period. The more concrete and tangible your goals stay, the easier is to keep your feet on solid ground. I just got myself started on manifestation to get pussy and money lol

>>41089308
>when they connect with their higher self in the void state or whatever
This >>41067758 chain of posts from the last thread was immensely useful to me.
Metaphorically speaking, your "higher self" is god, while your "presence" is the brahman from which every state comes (You are already this, being the first person point of view, and not being able to not experience the world this way), being the later the reason why you can even do this stuff in the first place.
>but in my mind it makes more sense for the higher self to not be a separate being but just the combination of personal and 3d states.
I don't want to interfere so much because you're heading towards the right direction, and this has to be self learned (at least in the iron age we live), but here's a suggestion to make things more easier for you: Don't mix up stuff until you're clear about the facts. People turns mad because nothing seems to fit, but in reality is that everything fits just nicely. When you start to gabbling up a bunch of stuff (3d/4d, super concicious, sats, pendulums, point of assembly, OAP, sneed, super saiyan kaioken, etc) you may end up confused and without direction like a headless chicken. This is why there's so many reports of people ending up worse than they started, because they put the cart before the horse (the methodology before the facts) and act like nutjobs while nothing its happening. So use common sense first, and let the logic take the wheel for you, that way a lot of doubts clear up by themselves (ONLY a suggestion, not a rouge take called "law of consideration" or something like that :^) so decide accordingly.).

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>>41089168
Do you know of any good explanation of UL that simplifies and makes it clear ? Because I swear that things is almost unintelligible some times. I just want to know 1 - what the theory claims and 2 - What should I do then? What's are the techniques or rituals necessary? What's intent?

Also with regards to creating and using your own systems don't you think that goes against what Neville taught of just imagining the end state and having faith it's already done?

>>41089308
>something that happens implicitly with realizing UL.
Remember that "Universal Line" it's just a term used by John to explain reality using that as a metaphor. The reason why is called universal line is because, well, for example, a canvas in an empty space right? But when you paint, everything starts with a line. Even if the artwork is made of a lot of lines, its all the same line "pervading" the painting, and there is only one painter. But if you step back, the entire world is like that, made of lines, made of waves, just like a painting, all from the same substance.
>maybe this could mean focusing more on "strength" when visualizing rather than fidelity, which seems backed up by UL (i think) focusing more heavily on the connection to the UL which would strengthen their visualizations rather than just doing it "the right way"
The "right way" its the one that works for you. But ask yourself, "why this works?" and eventually you hit up against a wall, and it's all comes down to the one actually doing it. UL is all about knowing that you can do this, and that's where it ends, the methods the author suggest is to kick the ball straight away, so you get into the game. You literally cannot "strengthen" visualization because any way you instantly access to your memories or ideas IS visualizing (If you mean, literal "Iron Man Armor" type of visualization, that's another thing, but it's not necessary for manifestation, its sensory theater, and an "option" of many you have, but again, not from where your return is really coming from if we want to track the truth down).

>>41089413
ask grok unironically

>>41088714
I missed this, what was your report?
And what are anons saying now, I havent been here in years, do people not like Zeland anymore or what

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>>41089413
>Do you know of any good explanation of UL that simplifies and makes it clear?
I honestly can't help you with that, i don't think anyone can. I don't want to sound rude but it's what it is. John is pretty damn clear as fountain water in his documents, and there's also some useful pointers scatered across multiple interpreters
>ULAnon
>UwUAnon (this image >>41087897)
>Former Paolucci students like DreamerAxelos and Mossyeyes that got in direct contact with John (you will have to use the PullPush reddit tool to take a look at this one).
>Some posts from the last two threads.
You can look up those. But in my personal opinion, interpreters are all worthless, and that includes me. People get in and out of UL with their own understanding of the facts cemented on their own experiences and personal life orientation. They put themselves to work, and don't rely on NO ONE but themselves. Paolucci keep himself aside at all times in his documents and orientations, as he is more of a messenger than a teacher, because the true "teacher" is the truth itself, represented here as "One All Person" or Universal Line. The same with George. So you have to decide, here and now, if you are going to pursuit this to the end or not, and act accordingly, no matter what happens or not. This is the go getter mentality that you need over the metaphysical truth and control of your material world, but instead of following some hollow platitudes, you will following the truth. But it depends on you.
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>>41089413
Anyway, the gist of it is that Universal Line is all about the following:
>See the facts, and decide for yourself.
As for your questions, i'm going to give some brief (and vague) QRD on it
>1 - what the theory claims
So, you're god. The value of the material is answering WHY you're god in the first place, the essential mechanics of reality, and the true purpose of your perception. That's all there is to it, remedies, as i said before, is to get you started in action, because nothing happens until you do.
>2 - What should I do then?
Excellent question. You should answer it yourself after learning the facts. Seems easy, isn't? The techniques and ritual in these teachings basically boils down to just meditate quietly or proactively use your imagination or presence with an objective or target in mind (what you want to happen next). Intent is literally the reason why you do something, to get what.
>I will do this ritual for money -> Do ritual -> Get money
This is the three phases of wave in action.
>Also with regards to creating and using your own systems don't you think that goes against what Neville taught of just imagining the end state and having faith it's already done?
Neville is not my teacher, as i am my own master, and he's also not one of my sources, so you may as well also answer that yourself. But once you understand the big picture, you will see how UL stuff overlaps deeply with Neville, but UL is more solid because it prevents you from getting stuck in a cyclical reductive conclusion. Neville tells you that you're god but you have to take his word for it, while John designed the material to LEARN and KNOW that you're THAT, so you don't take "No" for an answer. Nobody gets far with Neville alone.
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>>41089471
I personally don't like Zeland, he glows, and i mean it, seriously. He will tell you about a lot of ideas that infringe with common sense and the further extent of the implications of manifestation in the first place with an avalanche of bullshit rules, like, for example when he tells you that simple stuff like people manipulation is not possible, despite even PUA shit that has nothing to do with magic at all (or your ordinary experiences even lol) showing you the opposite in front of your eyes, all his shit just falls apart by itself. It reminds me to the "A Course In Miracles" tome, so people see this big thing and think "woaaah so big, it must be imbued by wisdom and shieeet" and but the premise and text just fall apart at the first chapters when you know all the facts that points to this world being your personal playground. I don't even think that the guy uses nowadays even half of the shit he wrote in the first place. It smells like some failed project to capitalize in the law of attraction movement using reddit science as aesthetic instead of mystical attire for white women.

>>41089775
so neville is just: "trust me bro"
while john explains all the mechanism and whys?

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>>41088609
Castaneda was one of TriumphantGeorge's sources, and a close person to Neville (they meet). It's from him from where this entire "intent" matter comes from. The thing about his material in particular is that is not concerned with manifestation, at all. It's more about an "exit level" stuff of interest, optional thing to dive into, and it's still below George and Paolucci observations because it's deeply metaphoric (in the storylines he shares), but regarding the teachings and philosophy behind it, it's all real. The problem that could arise is that, it's highly advanced, and batshit insane stuff. I also took a look at /r/Castaneda for a time, and while everything it's interesting, the community enforces a highly self destructive and cultish behavior (reddit communities should really be abolished completely, seriously); like, they have the right heart, in a lot of matters really (keep yourself grounded, don't stray from the core practices and mix bullshit in, don't fall for grifters, do real magic, etc), but they completely abolished manifestation and self preservation, so...
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>>41089938
Something i learned from my experience in this community is that you should really be on your own, and if you adhere to someone else, let it be someone that have compatible goals with yours, a team, a group of friends, or something. But never compromise your personal goals for nothing in the world. The only way to win in this is to hold your higher ideal as the most sacred thing, the reason why you even do anything and everything, including this, so you never end up losing your way. This is why a lot of Neville followers lose themselves in the first place. Here's a great perspective from an former Oneirosophist:
>I agree with xoxoyoyo. The idea is not to 'compare' yourself with others. I don't know if that was ever your intention, but you will inevitably end up unconsciously comparing yourself even if that is not what you want. That is human nature.
>I agree it is quite interesting to read about other's experiences but its more along the lines of "entertainment" for lack of a better word, rather than actually allowing myself to let other's experiences set a benchmark for me. If the idea is to simply read up on other people's experiences then maybe we can make a seperate sub for it. I personally believe this sub is best suited to discussion about onerisophy rather than describing personal experiences. But as mentioned before the idea isn't to look at other people's experiences so that you can get an idea of "progress". I think it can negatively affect your personal journey with oneirosophy when you begin to bring other people and their experiences into it. It is about you and only you. It is important to remember that.
>But it is enticing to read other's experiences. I believe I read one of your comments about one of your experiences and it was very interesting. But I'm not sure if that's the best thing to do. We are here to discuss not to advise or show. This is our own personal journey and we can only walk this path alone.
>>41089909
Yeah

>>41089775
>I will do this ritual for money -> Do ritual -> Get money.
So since you know you're god you can just do your own version of rituals to get your desired outcome? this looks a lot like Magick. I'm gonna carry around a king of diamonds card knowing it makes money flow to me easily lmao.

>>41089951
i skimmed through the U.L book and this stuff seems pretty technical and advanced, not judging of course, i get he is attempting to explain big ideas

>>41089982
That sounds like a good idea. A "lucky coin" is a pretty similar premise, your result doesn't come from the card but from your way to dream.

Reality it's really similar to a videogame, but i would take Universal Line as the "tutorial" of it because it explains the reason why anything works or could work, of any supernatural event happening (or not). Not overselling, you can check it out. Anyway, following the videogame analogy, once you have knowledge of the higher truth, the action ACTUALLY begins; you can even customize your "build" and "spells" using other teachings because they are just simply ideas that you can pick up or not, for example, what you mention is basically "an spell" of sorts that you just made up, but the reason why you're doing it in the first place is because you just know you can do it lol. Two people can do the same thing, but their intents, and what's happening "inside" of them, it's an entirely different matter.

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>>41090028
Basically: "Trust in yourself and the process"

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>>41090050
You got it!

>>41090054
to be fair, this is how every manifestation teacher/guru tells you

>>41089982
The thing about Magick is that the "magick" scene and books don't tell you that you're god because if they did that they won't be able to sell you a book lmao.

>>41090054
to be fair, this is what every manifestation teacher/guru tells you*

>>41090076
Yeah, but this time you could know it instead of being stuck on some wishful thinking, and leave gurus behind, do your own thing. I'm telling you this for free, as some anon to another, so you may as well keep deciding from a point that benefits you the most.

>>41090083
I guess having a logical structure does help to build the convinction compared to just having blind faith

>>41090098
Knowing the truth overrides everything. When you were kid, and envisioned yourself on the heroes who prevail against the odds, your identity sense was in a higher place. As you grew old, some people wither their own self image, and act on lesser and lesser identity until they just crumble; internet access and the current state of this site as a whole should fill yourself in the details automatically. That's why you have so many people defending teachers like Neville and holding them as gospels, because they want to replace religion with the worship of some other messianic figure or something similar (They don't see themselves in heroes anymore). But if you know that manifestation is real, that you doing magic is your actual natural state, then how all that fuss serves you? Religion and philosophy are rendered useless, because you just have the power to do whatever you want kek. Manifestation would teach you that you are not an insignificant pawn in a larger, chaotic world, but a rising beast in constant ascension towards higher divine power. This all sounds like fanciful myth or tales, except if you have taken what you have learned so far to the fullest extent.

You could also think about it this way: There was a world before this industrial age, where Magic was commonplace. Magic suddenly became a rarity, but we have remained the same, so what happened? Nothing, really, because it's a well keep secret, that its not hidden anymore, but it's more about you choosing your powers over the ordinary reality. This is why i recommend the path of the self taught mentalist, so you design your life around it. As the time goes on in this iron age, this will make even more sense. The deeper implications of this phenomena existing in the first place will be vindicated.

>>41089471
I hate zeland with a passion. He's book is just complexity addiction mixed with bullshit rules.
This guy gets it >>41089827

>>41090148
kek, Thomas Troward in his lectures on Mental science said something very similar about only being yourself in so far as manifestation instead of following others's ways, he put a very strong emphasis on it actually

I climb ladders every day for work. Is there something else simple I can try to prove to myself this works? Also can I just positively manifest my first time instead of I "won't climb a ladder"? I don't see the purpose it seems strange

>>41090241
Others are part of your realm. You're God, and they are residing in your world. Like a videogame (For example, Morrowind, or some other RPG of that fashion), every character it's a the mercy of the player actions, and they don't exist or are relevant to your path unless you decide that they are. This is really reductive because it doesn't do justice to the fact that you are even beyond the idea of "a world" where you reside in. Some people that couldn't handle LoA or magic in general, for example the Non dualistic ones, keep insisting in the idea of people manifesting "against them" when you could just "simply hop on a different dream" where that's is no longer an issue. When you do a "shift", what you are doing is living in a different instance of the world that have your desired changes in mind. When you try to fit this mechanic in some dualistic notion like "what the other guy is doing", you will obligatory get lost because is just not true at all, is a zero sum riddle of an imaginary conflict, a con game, because nothing really exists beyond you unless you start thinking about this and the other; but if you start thinking from the inside out, as it has to be, everything that exist and could exist makes sense, the doubts just start to dissipate by their own, because what you say it is (Whatever your intellect agrees with) then it is. The universe is perfectly designed for you to realize that.

>>41090287
go for some food, imagine yourself eating it and tasting and smelling it and maybe even hearing the sounds of your biting it

>>41090297
Impressive, thanks for writing this, do you believe in incorporating parallel Universes with this?

>>41090287
Here's an idea:
>Figure out some food you want
>Make a ten minute timer, so its like a microwave, where you just wait for the food to come out. So you will sit down, put the timmer running, and just simply wait. Doesn't matter what you think of it, or whatever its happening, just simply wait. You are doing this to manifest some food.
>After all its done. That's it. Keep going about your day as planned and wait a week.
Ideally, you should try to do this as robotically as possible without thinking so much about it. With an state of mind of "i know what im doing and why" and do it swiftly and in a calm manner. After all is imagined and done, you let the world take its course.

>>41090287
i mean a food that you did not eat or receive in forever

>>41090335
Like literally set an alarm while thinking about the food coming? And then once the alarm goes off I'll stop and forget about it?

>>41090330
Parallel Universes is just a metaphor. Think about how many other metaphors can fit with that.
>Dimensional Jumping
>Reality Shifting
>Dream World exploring
>Parallel Universe Psychonaut Adventures
When you strip the metaphor aspect of things, you are simply going from some instance of the world to another, getting the pressure of being a "creator" off your shoulders, and just transferring your presence to a place where your object of manifestation is waiting you there.

>>41090361
Thank you

>>41090358
Not an "alarm", a timer, you do this fully awake. You don't even have to think about the food, because you already are doing this with an outcome in mind (That's why the first step is to choose your food, it can't be more simple than that). Once the ritual is done, you leave it behind, that's it, it's over, bye bye, forgetting about it could be useful but the thing is that once you finish, you don't evaluate further because you already did it, and it's over. Wait a week after the matter, and see what happens.

>>41090372
Interesting. I will try this. Thanks.

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Sometimes I fear I am developing psychosis with the law, the 3d is fucked but I am still and relaxed

Honest question. Why do this instead of just make a sigil? Sigils seem more easy and fill proof?

>>41090945
It's tiring in long term. Even the latest chaos magicians acknowledged this long time ago.

>>41090954
Can you go into a bit more detail? Drawing up a sigil, beating off, forgetting about it doesn't seem very difficult?

>>41090967
I mean, yeah, you're right, it's pretty simple but, doesn't the same logic apply to just imagine something real quick, and then just let it happen? Drawing some doodle, and then getting on the mood to jack off, and then cleaning up, isn't that less convenient?

>>41090977
Well I'm inexperienced in both. I've read about both a lot but tried neither. I'm not sure I should mess with fate. But many here seem to insist doing many SATs each night or for a week or whatever seems like more work.

>>41090999
Checked.
>Well I'm inexperienced in both. I've read about both a lot but tried neither.
That's bad, yeah.
>I'm not sure I should mess with fate.
You mess with fate every single day of your life.
>But many here seem to insist doing many SATs each night or for a week or whatever seems like more work.
That's their problem, not yours. Get to work, or not, whatever.

>>41089371
So basically
>Do things first, then make sense of it second.

>>41091005
Fair enough

I think I've finally gotten it anons. I've hit a flow state where spiritually and mentally I am stretched out into the future, and the present just feels like what my flesh happens to be doing at the moment. I haven't been doing any exercises aside from journaling and very simple moments of stillness while "feeling the energy" so to speak. I know exactly where I want to be and that's where I live in my head, and physically I have never felt more determined and productive. feelsgoodbros

Just pick an affirmation and fucking stick to it.

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>>41088564
The links for the Neville audio books have been delinkified, which btw, I'm listening to another book read by the same guy

>Your Invisible Power - Genevieve Behrend
https://youtu.be/59KtRPJR5F4
Seems good, if approaches the subjective in a slight different way, it describes the visualization as a picture of a magic lens, the light is your will, that then reflects the picture into the world. (chapter 2)
>trying to project the picture with a unsteady light that is constantly shifting from one side to the other, and you will have the effect of uncertain will
this is a very interesting way to put it, as for those who tend to have a bit hard time focusing on a single thing, such as myself
and then later he goes more into this (chapter 4)

> once you really believe that you mind is a center through which the plastic substance of all there is in your world takes involuntary form the only reason why your picture does not always materialize is because you have introduced something antagonistic to the fundamental principal
> very often this destructive element is caused by the frequency of which you change your pictures, after many such changes you decide that your original design is that what you want after all, upon this conclusion you begin to wonder why being your first picture, it hasn't materialized

This is an interesting point as it seems to imply visualizing it over and over again may be detrimental if you're not steady with your original design, for example because circumstances changed and maybe you're start to rationalize or justify a chain of events.
We do know though that visualizing just the one time is enough, the reason its advised to do over and over, is for the gap between imagination and the real world, so if you're lacking faith, you visualize again to bring back the feeling of that which is real.

>>41091387
>The links for the Neville audio books have been delinkified
Didn't noticed this. The guy who baked last thread just deleted the links and placed the titles for some reason. I'll keep that in mind for the next bake. Thanks for the link and pointers.

>>41091387
>This is an interesting point as it seems to imply visualizing it over and over again may be detrimental if you're not steady with your original design, for example because circumstances changed and maybe you're start to rationalize or justify a chain of events.
i mean the image will only be incorrect if your divination was too weak to begin. this is why you make "blurry" images to manifest. your power as 1 person can act like ripples in a pond. you distort, but its extremely difficult to calculate the height of the splashes. low fidelity high repitition is the best chance to make a fortune come true. fate will bend to you, but not break

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>>41091387
Right there seems like a beginner trap, which many may wonder why they're not getting good results, myself included, as the author mentions in his words, that that the picture may come true but not as satisfactory as one's pictured originally.

> The law that is the originating creating principal of life is the universal here and ever lasting now, it creates its own vehicles to which to operate, therefore, past experience has no bearing upon your present picture, so do not try to obtain your desire through a channel, that may not be natural for it, even though it may seem reasonable to you.
> Your feeling should be that thing, or the consciousness of which you desire so much, is normal and natural, a part of yourself, a form for your evolution. If you can do this there is no power to prevent your enjoying the fulfillment of the picture you have in hand, or any other.

>>41091410
yeah that was me, the script replaces the links with titles and I didn't notice way later after posting the thread.

>>41091419
You mean to intentionally make blurry images? that just seems like the same outcome to be honest, something that you desired but didn't come as complete as you had hoped for, similarly going over several several scenes that imply the same outcome seems detrimental because its like seek rationalization on how something may come to be.

I'm now considering changing my routine a little that instead of trying to go over the same thing over and over, I'll do the picture just the one time, and then daily meditate on just how strong and unbeatable my faith is, just to keep on track and avoid anxiety and self doubt from creeping in.
Neville recommends "reviewing" your day, daily right before you sleep, as an method to improve imagination itself, plus keeping you from sleeping with an undesired mood. This also seem like a good way to keep steady.

>>41091501
>You mean to intentionally make blurry images?
focus on nonvisual senses to make them more visceral, especially touch. our sense of sight is dullened by comuters but the other 4 are still intact

>>41091544
certainly with that I agree, though I do have a hard time remembering or imagining smells, got any tip for that?

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>>41091604
>Imagine the smell

>>41091604
smell more things. i would start by just, whenever you're chewing your food put your nose to the plate and smell it. you need to actively use the sense to bring the awareness into your mind. start just smelling the rooms or outside randomly and try using words to describe the smell. helps my outcomes a lot

>Just smell more things bro!
>Dimensional jumping is LoA!
>Neville was wrong about everything!
>universal line and triumphant George were 99% and 1% of the 100% truth!
>hope that helps!

In just two threads the posters in this general completely accepted one spamming trolls lies and even changed the OP. Quite amazing that you are this fragile and easily tricked.

>>41092230
If Neville's method was so good and worked for everyone, there would be no need for other methods

>>41092286
If any worked for a universes law there would be no need for hundreds.
Not the point anyway. You’ve have been trolled by one obvious troll saying “hope that helps” after how many hundreds of threads? Why do a complete reversal now? Perhaps the poster count it just that low now.

>>41092322
No I haven't been "trolled", I just don't like Neville's methods, they feel like work, SATSing (which only works if you have vivid imagery), or even worse, affirmations (which are mentally exhausting). For someone claiming "you don't need to lift a finger" a lot of mental lifting is being done

>>41090305
> can only manifest normal things that occur every day to everybody

How about something meaningful?

Everybody has a different conception of how this should work but nobody can make their method work. If it works once in a blue moon that is called a coincidence not evidence. If it doesn't work every time reformulate your conceptions and try again. Insanity is doing the same thing again and again and expecting a different result. People who are unable to consistently get what they really want keep giving advice on how to get what you want.

>>41088564
>> The Simple Technique
>https://pastebin.com/LNwqkDms
> I’ll tell you exactly what and how results are achieved, and it’s painfully simple: total self-persuasion.
That is called delusion and if delusion created reality then there wouldn't be something called delusion.

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Can i read/understand the Universal line if i am a total brainlet at math and physics?
From what i skimmed it appears to be highly technical material

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>>41093653
If you can speak, write and read just fine, you can understand UL perfectly. Hell, if the logic follows, if you could post this reply, you can do everything.

>>41093694
nice, though i am still hoping you are not just here to indirectly shill J.P's monthly 30 bux discord server

>>41093694
How do you know that? Most people who gravitate towards UL tend to be have above average iq

>>41093712
Nah bro, i openly go against any shekel fraud scheme, and if you get the message, you're your own master. Although i have my theories of why JP opted for that, but it doesn't matter at this point.

>>41093724
Alright, you get my trust, sir

>>41093724
God fucking dammit, this was meant for >>41093707 this platform just glitch on me at random. Anyway...
>How do you know that? Most people who gravitate towards UL tend to be have above average iq
IQ it's an imaginary number you just made up. Here's another story i made up: People who gravitate towards UL just want the truth, because at some point they have nothing to lose, so they may as well go balls deep in magic and try to come out on top. LoA may as well be rebranded or spawn a spinoff called "/one/ - Oneirosophy General" because Neville stuff it's outdated tech and can't stand ground against the facts anymore.

>>41093743
Trust on yourself and the truth, i could be lying to you.

>>41093653
Holy shit I haven't seen the Bosnian girl with AK for a long time

>>41093745
I am looking forward to combine Neville's stuff with whatever is in the U.L, no need for the black and white thinking

>>41089134
>>41089316
>>41089229
The truth is the only effort manifestation requires is the effort it takes to feel the state of the wish fulfilled as if it was real. Sometimes this effort is massive, as is the case with things like the lottery, or supernatural type stuff. But that's it.
Ironicaly, magic rituals, energy work and that kind of stuff make feeling the state easier, so they are not worthless. They're just not a goal on their own.

I just spilled a pretty big secret btw.

>>41093807
That's not the only thing, you still need to go about with your life and work on similar shit you wanted to manifest. Loa is only gonna give you a weird opportunity here and there and you'll have to use it

>>41092818
Start with something normal that occurs everyday or chances are you will never make it.
>>41093823
Not true. Earlier this year someone called me and asked me if I wanted to work for them, because I had visualized it three months before. All I had to do in terms of "working on similar shit" was saying "yes".

I manifest this way all the time. I end up in situations where I literally cannot refuse or avoid the thing I visualized. Least possible effort ever.

>>41093803
This. You simply stick to what works for you. They overlap, and even complement each other nicely. Most of UL users are former Neville readers anyway.

>>41092322
I suppose you have a solution. Care to share about it?
>>41092818
>How about something meaningful?
Such as...?

>>41093832
I don't know that sounds too good for me, I have managed to manifest jobs and people I didn't expect but I still had to go about my business and be in some kind of motion

>>41093903
And for the life of me I don't know what exactly I did to make it work. You can say visualize but I don't think that's the thing that made it possible, and it certainly wasn't the feeling of wish fulfilled because I never induced the feeling for anything.
Maybe it was a state of consciousness I reached accidentally, who knows

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>>41093881
some Anons would here dis-courge people from reading/exploring other authors or reading/consuming too much content related to manifestation saying:"it's a trap because it implies you assume that you don't know enough to manifest or need more knowledge to manifest properly"

they warned about "information overload" in regards to manifestation and the pratice of the law, but i think that's just a made up rule/limiting belief they created, but i understand in some sense, some might end up reading/watching too much and barely practicing anything they read/learn

>>41093803
>>41093940
I sometimes think that the negative traction that Neville has gained recently is mostly because they confuse his teachings with what recent generations "understood" about some vague summary of his teachings. Most people who fail to test magic spends more time reading the following than reading the sources and practicing
>Success stories (could be all made up or sensationalistic anecdotes)
>Methodslop
>Dumbed down youtuber videos, possibly from grifters
>4chan replies and summaries (Personal understanding instead of conclusions of your own)
While im not a fan of Neville myself, even i can see that and acknowledge it from miles away. People who don't examine the source and conclude for themselves, so they come from a place of lesser understanding. This doesn't even has to do with manifestation stuff, is general behavior of people, specially around the internet, that with so much information available, you find users talking with absolute confidence and assertiveness about subjects that they have no clue about. The average poster would be a great salesman.

>>41093970
I love Neville and i have no doubt that his methods do work, however if you go to reddit you will find many people in the main N.G subreddit who are originally from Law of attraction communities or originally followers of certain teachers/gurus, what those "people" do is basically to post in an alleged forum for Neville and bring the rules, regulations, opinions of other teachers/gurus and make people think they are Neville's

"no you should not try to manifest 2K bux, the universe will think you are too greedy, manifest 1000 USDs instead"

"Don't try to manifest at this time of the year, the moon/whatever is preventing the vibrations/frequencies, try when october is over"

I swear i read such stuff in Neville's main sub, holy fucking God

>>41093745
Due to my situation, I can only do 1 minute session with UL. Will this be enough? 10 minutes is recommended and i'm way under that.

>>41093999
These people would be exhausting to be around. I would ask questions such as "Who is this universe you're speaking of?" or "What the moon has to do with me?" and get them trapped under their own logic. Those communities could be entertaining for a while, but it's not really useful. Also checked.
>>41094012
Sure, why not?

>>41094034
Older versions of the text talked about more infusion of UL identity, the longer the session. I would get that briefly with only 1 minute

>>41093999
This is not really a Neville problem, this is more a reddit problem imo. People circa 2014 did just fine, and were able to track down the methodology and just go along with it, but when the reddit public got mixed up with the 4chan, they brought their baggage with them. I swear, why would you act intimidated after finding out about manifestation? The old geezers would be fun about it

>>41094048
Do what you can for now, take it easy

>>41094052
Yes, not implying that bro, the subreddit has over 200k subbers, of course it 'll be full of retarded biomass

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I felt the its done thing but it passed what do

>>41094216
Let go.

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I remember a certain anon on here who said that the dumber you are the more successful you are going to be with the law because you won' be thinking about the "how" and you won't obsees with doing things perfectly or properly, personally, i think retarded NPCs don't have the level of abstract thinking to practice this and there's a line between being smart and being an overthinker

>>41094883
unironically just have it is the key and the dumber u are then i guessu the easier it is to get into that state
everything but having it now is cope and cringe distraction that puts u in the im not having it state

>>41094883
According to this i'm a genius, but no, my intelligence level is average, I just overthink a lot

>>41094930
I love Neville's theory because the premise of it is that you already have it, your mission is to embody having it, be it, not pretend, it's different than other systems that tell you: "you have to desire it deeply to manifest it"

that kind of thinking literally only leads to more unfullfillment because it starts from a place of unfulfillment unlike Neville's theory which aims to establish a sense of fulfillment even when the 3d is not currently giving you reasons for ir

just so this isn't an echochamber, are there any anons here who disagree with UL/Paolucci but still respect it? What are your problems with it?

>>41095320
I do bot care for the visuals or the extremely dense words. I think it’a trying to be deliberately difficult with double meanings and vague allusions rather than genuinely effective. I respect it if it works but I see no reason to believe it does.

>>41095351
https://www.launchpass.com/original-supreme-cosmic-guide/subscriber

The Universal line won
John paolucci won
Neville lost
The law of assumption lost

>>41095531
Give me a non-schizo QRD on universal line.

>>41095704
It’s Neville but with less Jesus, weird images and a lot more verbose.

>>41094883
this is basically what psychadelics are doing
tearing down barriers in your mind between things reason cannot connect.

>>41095704
his methods actually work and his cosmology and metaphysics are backed by facts and logic

>>41095959
I heard of yogis talking about calming the analytical mind, so it's like when you try to impress the subconsious mind at SATS when you are drawsy at a time where your consious mind is more "sleepy"?
forgive my ignorance

>>41095351
this, it's essentially schizobabble for pseudo-intellectuals

>>41096171
Kek, I just asked ChatGPT (not a good source) to sum it and even give me the difference between it and Neville's system, I won't judge it until i start reading it

John is better than Neville because at least his fanbase is not infested by women.

anons that believe in UL, what returns have you gotten from it? You all really talk up a system without even saying if it personally worked for you and your goals. Not necessarily against UL just want to know because 10kanon's the only success story I can remember with it

>>41096266
Passive income + free food + a harem of girls and boys

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>>41096266
>10kanon's the only success story I can remember with it
Someone shared this one in the last thread

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>>41096377
Also, that one rare UL thread was pretty cool, they had some awesome perspective.

So, if I wanted a full return of one Atomic Purple Gameboy Color using UL, an instantaneous materialization return, no waiting months or anything like that, what should I do?

>>41096764
Uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh
Just command it?

>>41096800
alright I did that, why didn't it show up as soon as I opened my eyes?

>>41096815
idk

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I have hyperacusis (extreme sound/noise sensitivity) and i live next to a highway, with my extremely-powerful hearing the noise is making my life hell-ish sometimes, I want a pair of earbuds, i know i can imagine having them during SATS but i have no idea how to mental diet during the day with the non stop awful noise causing me anxiety and borderline physical pain in my ears and head, I know my problem seems trivial

>>41096815
You tell me.

>>41096438
Exactly my issue. I understand what he's saying, but why the fuck does he need to go on a multi paragraph ramble fest.

>>41096893
Buy them!

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>>41097034
they're too costy for my exchange currency (yeah i am from a poor country) i am a N.E.E.T at the moment, i am supposed to start attending a school for autistic people soon so i technically can't get a job at the moment, i hate to sound like a victim

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>>41088564
how goes your assuming?

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funny experience yesterday, had a sudden feel to start listening to Don't stop Believing by Journey,
https://youtu.be/7gupK06T68k

This lead me to a music binge, this led me to such a wide arc that made me feel deeply connected and emotional, finally coming back to a close again with the same music, until I finally realized
>Don't stop believin'
>Hold on to that feelin'

Trip Kings (besides mother anon) and other more experienced anons, I'd like to start to create a discussion point: how I see how the law operates is as such, there are few mental laws but the most potent are the law of correspondence, the law of mentalism and the law of "everything counts". How I see it is that the law does have boundaries that can be overstepped with the mind, but I cannot be used continuously, for example, Neville absolutely abused his body and manifested his own demise from his alcohol abuse. There's no escaping that part, however when people walk on water and do other miracles, it's simply mind exerting itself over the lower laws, however no person yet has been able to continuously do it, i.e eat horrible food, drink liquor and have excessive sex and be completely healthy and intelligent. I would love to hear this threads opinions since it seems that there aren't many that represent his mode of thinking.

On a side note, I have to say that the biggest successes I've had when I fell into full conscious use of the law is to forgive everyone, face my own personal fears and insecurities and fully rewire my mind to see the good in all people, including minorities. There's a two fold theory that my friend and I have came up with why hatred, even "justified" hatred, is self-destructive. Hatred is usually a strong emotion, constantly thinking of the negative traits that a group you hate has, makes them manifest in your personality. Secondly, if you focus on hate, you'll start to manifest more circumstances to feel that hatred. Salute the divinity in all anons and claim your prize as son of the king

>>41097062
How much do they cost?
If you don't mind me asking.

>>41089938
>>41089951

Do y'all niggas want to go to hell? stop talking about using demonic witchcraft to hop to another dimension were you have raw sex with big booby thick latinas in a penthouse suites. it's not worth your soul. repent

>>41094958
how do i suck myself into the 4d and believe i have it

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The simplest way to manifest is finding out EXACTLY what you want. Like you know EXACTLY what it looks like visualizing. Then just keep visualizing that everyday until you hallucinate it to tulpa levels. Eventually you will attain satisfaction and naturally detach without even trying.

>>41096438
So instead of directly saying
>no I don’t have any proof
We get massive posts which actually say
>no I don’t have any proof
But in way too many words. This is the core of universal whining, bore them to death.

>>41099308
You've been posting about universal WHine for years now, when will it end mate?

>>41099251
No it's not, I don't see shit in my minds eye so it's useless.

my cum is magical.

>>41099378
It’s not mine I think I copied it from another enlightened poster who used it during the last universal slime push in these threads from who knows when and I first used it two days ago. It’s catchy and justified given that’s what this is.
>when will it end mate
Dunno mate, probably when it stops.

>>41099038
100 bux, the average income in my country is like 400 bux monthly, you can see why they are far from what a broke NEETie here can consider purchasing

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>>41096893
No need for a mental diet, lol
people in Neville's testimonies just do S.A.T.S and receive what they want just fine, none of them ever mentions mental dieting or doing anything through the day.

>>41100353
>none of them ever mentions mental dieting or doing anything through the day
that is just not true though, and here I am assuming "mental dieting" is just meme words for policing thoughts or such stuff
of course it wont be mentioned in testimonials given are the success stories, and no the failures
I'm fairly certain Neville brushes over the topic on the chapter about reason for failure

>>41100353
He does mention in one of his lectures that your lack of mental diet during the day can reverse what you are doing at S.A.T.S

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>>41100502
>>41096893
Another reason why The Universal line mogs Shitville's system, a God has no need for such arbitrary rules or requirments to achieve his whims, Hail Paolucci !!!!!!

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Okay /LoA/, I have a real question. If LoA works, what about this guy? Don't give me any explanations about reality shifts and all that bullshit. He's here completely believing in many crazy things, and nothing happens. So what?

>>41100768
LOA is a fraud, the Universal line is the real

>>41100778
Hmm... well, I skimmed over the Universal Line, and I see a big argument has started in the last two threads about it. Is there any summary of what it is?

>>41100791
You are not God, you are everything out there, you are beyond God

As of now.

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>>41088564
I see why Neville says to make a scene that implies the end, i fucked up but I learned my lesson.

>Be me
>Going through breakup
>been with this girl for 3+ years
>fuckit Goddardmaxxing.jpg
>Imagine meeting her, hugging, her crying into my arms etc. with the assumption that we reunite
>Full vivid imagination that it's happening right here right now
>Few days later get call from her sister
>"You guys should meet up"
>Sister arranges meeting
>We meet
>Scene happens exactly like i imagined
>She cries into my chest while i hold her
>Relationship does not continue though

Here's where I fucked up:
Instead of going to a scene that implies we're together again, I went into the middle, a scene i described above.

So key lessons here:
1. ALWAYS go to the end
2. Imagination is the ONLY reality, literally, give to yourself in imagination and don't worry what happens in the outer world, because it's only the effect, imagination is the cause.

>>41100502
>>41100516
I admit Neville talks about that but the testimonies he qoutes word by word just don't mention anything of that sort, almost every single testimony i read in more than 12 of his books boil down to:
"I did SATS and i received my wish"

it's that simple, I believe Neville overates the role of monitoring your inner monologues in one's day to day life

>>41100818
Okay... sounds good. But I can't just fly around and shoot lasers out of my eyes, right? So I'm still trapped in the material chains.

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>>41100778
>>41100818
I think this general no longer serve UL users. I mean, the other guys are right, this is a "Law of Assumption" general, but for people who are competent in exploring reality, they will find out soon that any "law" or rule is basically something you just made up on the spot, is not real. So garbage like "mental diet", "4D/3D", and other Neville jargon is basically arbitrary stuff that doesn't really exists, and are even counter productive and simply not useful, at all. New Thought makes men act like psychotic women. Neville only notorious contribution was the "SATS" thing and that's another invention that has nothing to do with the source of the cause and effect in reality by itself. It's your private dream, so why dream all this trouble in the first place? But trying to turn this general (and this board) in something that will never be it's a sissyphean task that no person who value his time on earth will partake. It's more useful to go on by yourself if you want to save you future mental strains, and trust the process to find a better inner circle to share your ideas in a constructive manner that further your advances.

>>41100768
/LoA/ doesn't have an answer to anything, because assumptions are just hollow guesses. That's it, there, i dismantled the law because the entomology of the word "law" and "assumption" are oxymoronic.

This general was a nice nexus, and an excellent information repository, but there is a moment to move on, because your way of doing things will eventually become one of its own that it's incompatible with this place.
>inb4 then why are you posting this and the other
Because it's useful, and because people look up at the archives than they participate here, so they can have this idea, and give it some consideration, it saves time, and put your choices more aligned to the truth, something i wish i did back in the day.

>>41101398
Agreed, we need UL general to discuss materials and deepen understanding, i know it could be helpful to me and likely others as well

>>41099970
>>41099308
This is the prime example of the usual Nevilletard on display. He keep accusing people of "whining" when that's the only thing he had done so far, not a single contribution or perspective on sight. So he waste replies dumping the thread just complaining and crying while the last couple of threads had helped anons more with newfound ideas than the other 20 or so threads before that were to the brim of tripfags, blogposting, trolls, and people that are way too behind the race and waste everyone time on a fraud. Magic is the natural state of man, not the bizarre "add on" that Neville taught you it is, he was absolutely wrong on everything, and it's time for some people to move on, for good.
>>41101429
Something more akin to a "Oneirosophy General" or similar would be better. I think George findings complement perfectly with the UL material, and it would be great to make a synthesis of them for a more effective application.

has anyone tried affirming for a long period of time? i dont mean 24/7 robotic affirmations but just sitting in a quiet room for like 3 hours and just affirming while not thinking of or being distracted by anything

>>41101485
That's exhausting, and useless.

>>41101398
well, at least you inspired people to update this sticky, that is more than great, thank you, i 'll soon read the univerasl line and find out

>>41101475
triumphant george literally says all thoughts are facts, and that thoughts that arise are showing the state of the universe. pedoluccifags trying to claim him will never not be hillarious. You fuckers just spam your incoherent metaphysics retroactively refuted by esoteric kantianism and shit your pants whenever someone asks for actual results.

>>41101492
https://www.reddit.com/r/NevilleGoddard/comments/9v7iiv/i_saved_myself_from_missing_a_flight/


not really

>>41101569
I need to understand why we have been attacked by a wave of U.L shills in the past 3-4 days out of no where, multiple shills at once I guess John's premuim discord server is running out of members, so he ordered some of them to shill it online

>>41101589
That shithole is full of bots and people making up stories to promote Youtube coaches and content creators.

>>41101569
By your logic, George is also wrong because he keep his personal life out of his findings to present them as facts and ideas, as it should be, so the competetent find his way around it for his own goals. Anyone complaining about "muh results muuh evidence" its someone that's out of the loop and need to lurk more and start advancing by himself. Its just how it is. This is a perfect litmus test to divide the actual practicioner and free will agent from the mindless herd that care more about fitting in than his goals.

>>41101612
You don't need to understand a single thing. Don't worry, the next thread will be free of UL users and the likr so you and your groupies can "return to form" with your web therapy along the mentally ill. What had to be said was said, and what needed to be presented at this time was already posted, the archives will do the rest of the heavy lifting for the next wave of people. Feel free to dismantle the OP also, it doesn't matter at this point. I will shit on Neville and similars where its due, but coming here to do it its stupid, its like going to NG and Law Of Attraction communities to do so, doesnt make sense and its a waste of time, i already know about the con game, so i easily step out. Enjoy your struggle.
>>41101670
This.

>>41101737
I say that as a Nevillefag B.T.W

>>41101569
Philosophy its rendered useless by magic

>>41088564
Things are wonderful. My family easily helps everyone in need now and receives endless abundance in return. Things are better than ever and they continue to improve daily. Everyone who has ever helped me or my family is incredibly blessed and happy to see the immense wealth and endless happiness and success my family now enjoys

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>Tech exam passed with 28/33
>Didnt even open the book day before
>Mom didnt throw a tantrum this time
>New exam i can regive are already listed for october
It fucking works.

>>41101782
what did you do?
story?

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>>41101737
Okay let me thank you again I have always noticed the outdated U.L book link in the sticky but I have not paid attention to it I had the impression it was irrelavent but you have encourged me to check J.P's work I still like Neville and I don't see myself dropping out Neville teachings enirely at all but I am always open-minded for something new it was nice to have you here while it was a thing I hope we can talk again and discuss the U.L

>>41101737
Also, to be clear, when i say "shitting on neville" i mean to reject its teachings and ideas, not some mental vindictive crussade against his person. I couldn't give less of a shit about his life, really, what I DO CARE is his ideas, which sucks dick big time. That's why terminally LoA'd people will have a hard time with Universal Line teachings or TG ideas, because they are conditioned to seek conflict and judge people, instead of problem solving and personal deduction of the origin of your experience (If they are even interested ON THAT in the first place). Again, this is something that has nothing to do with manifestation, but more of YOUR way of learning things, of seeking truth. As far as i can tell, anyone fixed on the finger instead of the moon its simply not going to make it where he want to go, ever, until he start to pay attention and learn properly. Its true what they say, you just simply won't want a redditor or an half chan anon in real life, its better to stick to the agents using the medium, the former end up being a liability for everyone and themselves.

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Anon that recommended scripting, I've finally started reading it and quite enjoying, seems like a neat approach to keep things varied.
Actually managing to pick a book up and reading without being distracted already feels like an accomplishment in itself.
Ironically today I also started writing about yesterday's manifestation, as I've read somewhere its a good practice to cultivate.
Also managed to find just about the perfect back track collection for a pleasant reading ssesh (it was sitting in my HD since 2015), feels like everything lining up.

On another topic, I also have some more binaural tracks if anyone wants them uploaded, one is ancient binaural album, probably one of the earliest around since it became a thing.
Binaurals are actually fairly easy to create yourself, and I did so quite some time ago, but with varying frequency starting on a higher and going lower, its really good for a solid slumber.
These are raw binaurals, they might not be as pleasant to listen, but I think might be a little more effective since there is no chance of the song altering the frequency. It may be easier to focus on whatever you want to.
So if anyone wants I can upload those.

>>41101475
This is the prime example of the usual Universal Whiner on display. He keep accusing people of "being wrong" when that's the only thing he had done so far, not a single piece of proof or perspective on why universal crime would work. So he waste replies dumping the thread just making empty claims and crying while the last coule of threads had misled anons with false ideas than the other 20 or so threads before that were to the brim of tripfags, blogposting, trolls, and people that are way too behind the race and waste everyone time on a fraud. Feeling is the secret is the natural state of man, not the bizarre "command” that Universal brine taught you it is, this is absolutely wrong on everything, and it's time for some people to move on, for good.

This shit works both ways, you post a lot but never, EVER provide any reason as to why this verbose shit with comedy images would ever work. You have nothing, show when it worked and I will follow.

>>41101980
https://www.launchpass.com/original-supreme-cosmic-guide/subscriber

>>41101980
>not a single piece of proof or perspective on why universal crime would work
This is a lie, and you know it. You are just lying to yourself at this point. You have this entire thread, the last one, and the last one before that if you want proof and reasoning, not to mention the sources we're citing. The devil can't create, only imitate, and this is the perfect analogy that fit this situation because the devil can only lie and that's what (You) are doing, you are just simply throwing a tantrum and mocking my post because you can't stand by your ideas, only social posturing, which you just don't have. The only way an anon can be misled, in the first place, is that something doesn't add up to the facts, or his subjective experience, and if you weren't so assblasted, you will see that. Didn't even bother reading the rest, because the only place that happened is in your own head.

>You have nothing, show when it worked and I will follow.
I don't need you to "follow me", everyone and their mothers would be better off without someone like you. At least, that what i think. Cult behavior is against true progress.

>>41101980
Go read The Universal line entirely, your brain is rotten with TikTok and porn, you want everything to be spoonfed for you.

>>41101683
>I'm the elite neo matrix john wick 100 because I can't provide any proof my system works and parrot an open gay pedophile!!

>>41101980
The fact that you prefer the trolls, sob stories and tripfags over discussion is insane, get a grip nigger

>>41101753
magic is a branch of philosophy.

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>>41101787
It did for like a month affirmation of having taken max marks on all exams, and visualized my mother being happy for me.
I got more exam because of this the one i didnt pass at october.
Fixxed it self when i was starting to lose faith.

>>41102076
If someone curse you and you die in your sleep, your mental jargon goes down the drain. It's useless. You need tools founded on solid ground, not philosophy.

>>41102028
You don't have a base to your ideas though. You just assert something is true without any evidence metaphysical or empirical. You can't infer from representation that reality is one thing.

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>>41101980
Didn't you said in the first post that you "manifested" this outcome? Then why are you so mad about the recent turn of things? This is your doing by your own logic, and getting upset by things you did. You're a fucking nutcase, you know that?

Okay I had THE lightbulb moment i needed about UL/neville/literally any of it it's all the same. While watching DanDaDan and giggling of all things.

(Making my way through the second season and it's the episode where they play the William Tell Overture song over the action again like the first season, and it's just so funny I can't help but enjoy a sensible chuckle)
And I get this little niggle of an intrusive thought in my head, going, god I wish I could share this with SP.
My brain on the fly fixed the thought (it's like a muscle, keep at it, fight them sumbitches enough and it becomes automatic) to "I look forward to when that happens, it's just a nice experience I would prefer, nothing to it."
And that's where it strikes me... I'm not choosing my experiences, bitch, I'm the whole experience. It's ME! The created AND the creator. The experiencer within the experience. I AM what the universe manifests into to feel what I feel, think what I think, do what I do. That makes me so fucking valuable - as both an experience necessary enough to be here, and as the experienceR who WANTS this and the reason this is happening.
AND, it makes me so fucking powerful - of course the universe obeys my whims, it WANTS the preferred experience. And of course the universe behaves in my best interests because it IS me.
God what a fucking epiphany to have, and while watching some goofy ass anime at that

>>41102085
Paolucci is philosophy, though. it's metaphysics, advaita vedanta plagiarism, except with no basis in reality. He plagiarized indians. Philosophy would also be able to tell you the difference between phenomena and noumena, which throws out your one thing crap.

>>41102070
>WAAAH WWAAAAH WHY NOBODY DOES WHAT I TELL THEM TO DO :(( WHY NOBODY CAN TREAT ME LIKE A SPOILED CHILD WAAAH

>>41102159
>Paolucci is philosophy, though.
Wrong. Paolucci explains mechanics, Universal Line it's information. Philosophy implies a personal orientation, and your always already available philosophy is "I do what i want", citing some useless nigger like kant, or schopenahuer or Nietzche or whatever is just a coping flavor. You won't need copes if you see a way to solve problem, and the reason why you solve problems is to advance. You don't need to rationalize it. Actually, overthinking and rationalizing are a liability for this.
>advaita vedanta plagiarism
Everything in the existence is a plagiarism. Do you think we exist on a vacuum? Also, religions are just metaphors, some more useful than others.
>except with no basis in reality
This is pure cope.
>He plagiarized indians.
You're probably brown.
>Philosophy would also be able to tell you the difference between phenomena and noumena
I don't give a shit about any of that, i don't need it
>which throws out your one thing crap.
You're beyond retarded.

>>41102166
>shits his pants
Pedoluccifags come to this thread every 3 months or so, try to convince everybody that he's the ultimate exit level, and then say shit like this. You have no proof. Your teacher had a husband.

>>41102199
>Your teacher had a husband.
Everyone with a half functioning brain will do whatever they want with their capabilities. Your cult doesn't have that option. You can't find the downvote button so namecalling works for you instead.

>>41102189
>Paolucci explains mechanics
lmao where’s the math, where’s the experiments, where’s the falsifiability?
“mechanics” that can’t predict shit = just metaphysics with a sci-fi skin

>philosophy is cope
bro you’re literally doing ontology every time you say “one thing” even now you’re not above philosophy.

>everything is plagiarism
there’s a difference between influence and straight-up rebranding Advaita as “universal line”

>I don’t care about phenomena/noumena
not caring doesn’t make the contradiction go away, it just makes you sound dumb
you’ve got no way to explain why “one thing” isn’t just another phenomenon

tl;dr: cope is pretending your half-baked Advaita fanfic is physics

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>>41102159
Philosophy is a fraud tho

>>41102210
>30 dollar discord subscriber who's constantly spamming "urrr brown!!" isn't a cultist namecaller
--->r/universalline

>>41102222
>your half-baked Advaita fanfic is physics
If you can abolish physics in a dream, and stay in a consistent dream world leaving the present instance in favor of that one, that also renders "physics" useless. There was a world before the age of reason and their liabilities, and we did perfectly fine if not better without this kind of dogshit ideas of the industrial world.

>>41102241
I enjoy name calling you, because i can afford it. I can explain where i coming from, and you can't because you don't offer a solution. That's the problem, you don't have a solution and don't offer one, or think of one, people like you hinder progress. You are the target audience of new agers grifters and communities like this because you actually enjoy not being able to do anything, so you want to extend it to others also. "EIYPO" as your teacher will say. Countless of replies, and not a single contribution, i will keep reminding you of that.

>>41102243
Bottom line: Suspending rules in a dream or rejecting industrial-era reasoning doesn’t make “Paolucci mechanics” a law of the universe. Ironically, "it's a story you made up".

>>41102265
>Suspending rules in a dream or rejecting industrial-era reasoning doesn’t make “Paolucci mechanics” a law of the universe
Exactly. Because he has nothing to do with what he's explaining to you. Truth is like that.

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I saw that she send three heart emoji's to someone. Didn't see who the contact was, be it a friend, family member, but probably some guy she's fucking.
In a way I'm relieved and I can try to get this bullshit behind me and move on. I just want this crush to end so badly guys. It's ridiculous how often thoughts about my SP pop up in my head, it's exhausting.

>>41102276
>I can explain where I’m coming from and you can’t
nah you literally just spam insults and vague “solutions” that are all just faith in Paolucci’s metaphors.
>people like you hinder progress
You’re the guy shilling metaphysical fanfiction as mechanics while calling people names. that’s the actual hinderance. stop pretending your rants are progress, they’re circus sideshows.
>countless replies, not a single contribution
if repeating the same wave/ocean/jar analogies over and over counts as contribution, congrats, you win. otherwise you’re just noise.

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Honestly im seeing a year that almost gor wasted being salvaged, thanks loa bros.
WAGMI

>>41102307
>You’re the guy shilling metaphysical fanfiction
First, shilling would imply that someone is paying me, and sorry to disappoint you but that's not the case, hell, I WISH, it would be really easy to do. Second, everything is fan fiction, and i mean it. Religion is fan fiction, because everything is metaphorical, and the usefulness of metaphors vary in degrees to how much higher they are in the levels of truth and how they fit. When you assert the metaphor or reality "being your dream", the fact that reality CAN BE like that, overrides every complexity to navigate the world. It doesn't matter who say whatever, it's about the ideas to act upon, and i just simply disagree with Neville ideas, which is the issue.
>if repeating the same wave/ocean/jar analogies over and over counts as contribution, congrats, you win. otherwise you’re just noise.
You're just making shit up, and willing to throw the baby with the bath and all just because you don't like it. You don't like John as a person and that's your entire basis to evaluate his contributions, which is fair, but don't pretend that's not the case. You then replace it for someone like Neville (could be anyone, really) that it's a celebrity, and have the celebrity perks and all, but the "gameplay" of his models sucks. I don't even need show you because if you can even type stuff on a keyboard your eyes works just fine. If someone proposes any other guy that makes more sense and it's more closer to the truth, then you will find the perfect excuse to dimiss it, which is your choice, just don't lie to yourself telling to (You) that its the tech that is malfunctioning, it's all issues of your own.

If your instance is that "magic is not real and i won't follow", then stay there. As i said before, after this thread, we all be gone, and your precious general will return to what it was. This was just something that needed to be recorded, so again, don't worry about it.

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>>41088564

>New movie about super machines made of nanoprobes from Encom.

Still wondering how they'd do against the mass produced stamped sheet metal droids of the trade federation, where for the same cost, you can kill a million of them and they'd keep coming.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kw8_gecNA-g

>>41102369
Wrong thread?

Even if Neville ended up an alcoholic, he still hung with the Castanedas, came from Barbados money, and earned praise from Israel Regardie. His system became the face of New Thought; millions know his name, millions have been influenced. Joseph Murphy, Walter C. Lanyon, and others carried on the legacy. That’s staying power.

Paolucci? A 70-year-old divorced gay man who spent years as a home-carer, now charging $30 an hour for PDFs already freely circulating online. PDFs with shirtless little boys on thrones and octopuses mumbling about “morality is subjective", basically implying he knows it’s wrong here but could be okay in some alternate reality. His Universal Line system is just recycled pseudo-Advaita nonsense glued to magical thinking. No staying power. No expansion outside /x/ and a Discord server that collapsed years ago when people saw what his site was really about.

At best, the cult tries to co-opt Neville’s followers, people like TriumphantGeorge from r/Oneirosophy who repeatedly declares allegiance to Neville, because they know Paolucci’s ideas cannot stand on their own.

>>41096251
neville was made for women

>>41102401
he is 70 Y.O?
He looks very young from the image in his website

>>41102401
Yes, it's odd how this guy hate Neville even though many of John's fan are fans of Neville too

>>41102401
At this point we're just bumping the thread to get it over with, so we may as well just keep going.

By your logic, again, Neville still a fraud, because he hanged out with people who are considered frauds nowadays (Castaneda being an exceptional case of this happening in long term). But funny enough, Castaneda runs into the same problem as John: Carlos wanted to teach sorcery to people, and instead of practicing, the general public were just a bunch of vipers that wanted to dismantle him and his findings. People like you are not interested on magic or manifestation, so you resort your efforts on attacking people and being nuance. People re-consider Neville ideas, but the most well grounded and educated person would separate the man from them because it's just not a useful thing to do, and it doesn't really matter. Every post, EVERY SINGLE ONE, has been centered around "this person was popular so HE'S RIGHT", you're simply appealing to authority instead of looking beyond of the common layout. Your only standing is "this person was rich, this person is popular, so if he says that you kill yourself, you do as you're told", this is madness.

John was smart since the beginning and humbled himself, that's why his material is highly practical and different ways to express what he's trying to explain. But you just turn your eyes blind and deaf your ears, and act like an scared child for reasons that only you would know. If we were a cult, we won't even address this stuff and act in a similar manner. You just lie and make sensationalistic claims instead of giving input under your own observations of what its explained. If we just keep talking over this its just going to be an endless cycle of the same and you already made up your mind. Just keep bumping the thread, it clearly doesn't matter.

I never said I don’t like John. Even if he’s openly a gay pedophile, and even if he admits that in this universe it’s wrong and he’d have to shift to a new one, fine. Good for him. But you guys won’t shut the fuck up about a completely incoherent system.

You constantly deflect to irrelevant shit and still have zero answer for why partial returns exist in this system. “That’s just a story you made up in your head.” When did I ever conclude it would take months? I don’t like Paolucci because it didn’t work for me, and the documents try to gaslight it, making it my fault like I somehow screwed it up.

>>41102412
Women don't have enough Intelligence for Paolucci's ideas so the baby-tier stuff is fitting for them
"just feel it sister"

El diablo

>>41102474
U.L is insanely simple it's all about trusting in yourself and powers.

>>41102475
funny enough, if you dive into neville and general new age stuff like the secret, its a very accurate dive in the contemporary woman psyche. you of course have to be nuts to act like that yourself i think, way too psychotic imo

>>41102473
Oh, I see. So we’re just supposed to pretend that UL has “practical” power while it literally can’t get off Discord and /x/? The humble genius John shtick is cute, but your system’s legacy is literally a 70-year-old ex-house carer charging $30 to hand out PDFs you could download for free, a few echo-chamber cultists parroting the same wave/jar/octopus analogies, and zero expansion beyond your little corners of the internet. That is its totality.


Every post you make is handwaving, appeals to authority, and “look at how humble John is, he’s smart!” That doesn’t answer a single question about partial returns, or why “Your Conclusion is Your Command” is supposed to matter if the subconscious is irrelevant. You’re literally ignoring the contradictions in your own system while trying to frame me as a scared child who can’t handle nuance.

UL isn’t LoA. In LoA, mental states actually mean something. In UL, you just assert your God, hope recognizing it will magically turn everything into methods for getting what you want, and pray partial returns don’t fuck you over. It’s a system built entirely on self-flattering rhetoric and the illusion of control.

>>41102475
New agers
>THE VIBRATIONS ABOVE THE MOON AND THE POSITIVE FEELING OF THE 4D WILL BRING THE SUBCONCIOUS MATTER TO THE SUPERCONCIOUS THOUGHT UNDER THE FEELING OF THE WISH FULLFILLED TROUGHT THE STATE AKIN TO SLEEP, UNTIL THE PERSISTENCY OF TAURUS AND VENUS, THE MANIFEST TOUCHY WOOBY LOOBY DANCE, YOU SCRIPT YOUR THOUGHTS BUT OOOONLY IN CAPITAL CURSIVE LETTERS, IF NOT IS NOT GOING TO WORK, THEN...
Paolucci
>Just do it nigga

>>41102454
That image is from around 2001, he was already like 49 there.

>>41102534
kek, got fooled, how do you know all this info about him?
barely any info about him online, unless you have been to his server

>>41102496
I tried to use it and it worked for partial returns and months long manifests, about as effective as neville, but I don't want that shit I want the instant materialization stuff ULbros keep touting since everybody says its the manifestation end-point. if I wanted normal speed, even only a couple days and waiting for returns I'd just use neville. I don't, yet nobody ever explains how to adjust it.

>>41102544
well the complete works obviously have bits of info spread across them. Like how at one point he had a husband who became an ex-husband (pre gay marriage legalization), how he apparently was active in nambla-style groups but seemingly didn't like the idea of actual contact (this isn't derogatory), and obviously he's at least part italian or adopted.

>>41102528
Gold

>>41102522
>UL isn’t LoA
We are at least in agreement with this. We need to divorce LoA from Universal because THAT'S misleading. UL will never be accepted in this general or this board and we have to take that for granted. The same goes to Castaneda and Oneirosophy, they are off topic, and never belonged to this place. This shit is for the new age trash.
>“look at how humble John is, he’s smart!”
Yes, retard. When someone does something smart, obviously i could say "that's the smart thing to do", you're embarrassing yourself at this point and just distorting my words at any given turn, you clearly don't know what to get from this exchange anymore.

>>41102546
Same for me, except I didn't even have partial returns.

>>41102544
His archived web pages have some biographical info about him, as well as some scattered info that his former students got. That's how we know that he is a traveler and goes to place to place in a van. There's also one student that told me that when John was asked about if he materialized a painting out of thin air, he would just dismiss it and insist on paying attention to your progress. It reminded me to Carlos, where he would direct people on workshops and they won't shut up about Don Juan and the books, and he would just say something like "Did you come here to gossip or to do sorcery? Get to work". It's the correct attitude to take with these things.

>>41102566
Except George is based off of Neville, have you actually read him?

If you want to use George in UL, you have to bring Neville in too. Without him, “persist the thought” doesn’t mean shit. How does it change reality if there’s no underlying model of consciousness? Nothing happens.

I ntegrate George and Neville, or you’ve got nothing. UL by itself, Paolucci’s “assert you're God and hope it works” nonsense can’t support George. Anyone claiming otherwise hasn't read him.

>>41102616
We don't want progress we want the damn abilities promised anon

>>41102120
You think I’m mad about this?
No. It’s great. This is manifestly fun. Things unfold as I said they would and as I expected.
>>41102028
So you joined a cult, aren’t happy about it and you still don’t have any proof it works? That’s what you are saying.
Could this be…..universal whining again?

>>41102647
I don't remember the chain of posts, are you the guy who thinks none of this is real or the pro abdullah/neville guy?

>>41102620
>If you want to use George in UL, you have to bring Neville in too.
That's a rule you just made btw. Your problem, not mine. Also
>Integrate George and Neville, or you’ve got nothing.
No, George absorbed the core mechanics from Neville methodology (The first person view, imagination as the true matter of reality, among others). With George contributions, reading neville it's a waste of time. If you read Neville books, the bibliography is more biblical interpretation than practical utilities, only a handful of the books (Five lessons, Feeling is the Secret and Power of Awareness to be exact) give the actual meat of it. But again, George discovered that you don't need baggage like feelings, or "mental diets" or that crap, as he puts it, its all sensory theater. This is what people is trying to say: If you prescient from all the mental illness like your personal feelings at the moment, and stay highly technical and pragmatical, you skip the bullshit, and get to what is actually getting your stuff.

This is simply working on a better way. Why would you interfere with that? How a person bringing that perspective (that they have no limitations no matter their current situation) is misleading them? How is "struggle with your bullshit so MAAAAAAAYBE you get what you want" is how we have to handle this? Pure fucking madness. You're in love with neville, and your fanboyism is blinding you.

Btw, nobody told you that you have to leave Neville behind, actually you do what you want and what YOU need to do. What im telling you is that I DONT LIKE IT, neither his systems or the rest of new age bullshit, for a damn good reason, but you can keep it. As i said, my participation in these threads has come to an end because Oneirosophy has nothing to do with LoA, and is a good thing to have in mind from now on.
>>41102627
I don't think im the anon you think i am

>>41102647
You keep mentioning a cult (your projection maybe) but i'm carrying my own weight with my words. This is 4chan, and you keep coflagging it with how the rest of the internet works. This is a place to share ideas, you don't have credentials or identity here, you're an anon and so is everyone else. If you cannot stand by yourself, appealing to authority is just boring because nobody gives a shit. Being aggressive is what put imageboards ahead of the rest of the web, because is as pure as you can get. No one win nothing here, but it's the perfect way to get some drills and test your convictions, and you're lacking. Stop acting like a woman.

>>41102709
>Imagination creates Reality! You are the Operant Power!
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO NOT LIKE THAT

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>>41102620
>Anyone claiming otherwise hasn't read him.
So, you?

test

>>41102685
how do I get instant materialization anon? Like from the current state a normal anon would be in how do you command the right way? because I tried command sessions and evidently i did something wrong if there was no instant full return

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Okay, so "Universal Line" is the secret, right? Now, how does it work? The texts are absurdly long, aren't there techniques and tests for this? As should be obvious, not everyone has time to read so much.

>>41102401
>Joseph Murphy, Walter C. Lanyon
but what if im not a christcuck

>>41102876
Lukeworm mindset, if you have time to lurk 4chan, you have time to read the U.L

>>41102876
>Now, how does it work?
How many times are people going to ask this in the same thread? How many answers do you need?

>>41102876
>so "Universal Line" is the secret, right?
no, rhonda wrote that one, this one is other guy

>>41102876
look up 10kanon in the archives.

>>41102710
You are doing everything you are trying to accuse me of and you still can’t answer the most important questions - does this work and if it does why can’t you demonstrate it. Stop acting like universal slime.
>>41102672
That’s got to be about three different anons although I quite like Abdullah because he is a mystery figure that lurks behind Neville and Murphy. He’s probably nowhere near as epic as he seems but the lack of information and any direct words gives him mystique.

>>41102876

About 15-30 minutes studying everyday and about 5-10 minute sessions should be the minimum.

>>41102685
>>41102358
You keep saying you will leave. Another lie. Can you actually manifest that one. Just go. Right now is fine, bye.

>>41102912
>does this work and if it does why can’t you demonstrate it
Yes, magic is real. Proof? Use google. Ah, true, you want ME to stop being an anon because you can't leave your personal afflictions at the door? Not my problem, won't do it. Cry about it.

>>41102931
>Right now is fine, bye.
I said after this thread, not even a minute off. You will have to keep bumping for it. This is about to be another one of your "successes", but not before my terms. So SATS harder, fag.

>>41102936
No this is your problem,
Hundreds of words and zero actual content.
You have a problem. Zero reliability.
And you still haven’t left but I think that’s three times over two threads you said you would go.
Can you do anything at all except tell lies and go back on your own words?

>>41102944
That will be your one success. Everyone wins.
Truly this is the universal shine!

>>41102953
Don't care, your life, not mine. Cry about it.

>>41102968
No tears from me. Im just pleased that your empty essays will soon be over.
So can you speed it up and perhaps give the class a (long) dissertation on how universal line has brought success and glory to all its (few) practitioners?
It’s super powerful right so I some solid examples should be easy. You could be changing lives right now for the better. Use your powers for good.

>>41103000
Cry about it.

Did anyone had success with the rick and morty method?

>>41103035
>rick and morty method
I really hope not.

>>41088703
Bulma was way more hotter than her mom

>>41103056
What's wrong with it

>>41103144
I just dont like reddit and morty

>>41100353
SATS is cool but i don't get why would you need a mental diet when before you did just fine without it. You are browsing 4chan in the first place.

>>41103207
How do you even mental diet if you are severely ill or homeless

>>41103035
holy shit it's actually a thing:

https://www.reddit.com/r/NevilleGoddard/comments/1dleasj/a_mindset_for_revision_the_rick_morty_method/

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>W-WHAT?! IN THE NAME OF ABDULLAH AND JESUS CHRIST, WHAT DID YOU FELLOW 4CHANNERS SAID?! THAT DESPITE DOING SATS FOR TEN YEARS, SCRIPTING MY AFFIRMATIONS ON MY PHONE, WALLS, AND RIB CAGE USING A BUTTER KNIFE, FOLLOWING A MENTAL DIET LIKE A MORMON MISSIONARY, BREAKING MY SLEEP CYCLE WITH HYPNOTIC ASMR, TALKING WITH AI NEVILLE LIKE IF IT WERE MY GOD, SPENDING MY SAVINGS IN EDWARD ARTS COUCHING AND BOOKS, PRAYING TO THE I AM, WITH ALL THAT, STILL, MY SP FUCKED ANOTHER MAN?! AND AFTER DOING WEEKS ON END DAILY REVISIONS AND GETTING AN ANEURYSM, SHE ENDED UP PREGNANT?! AND NOW I NEED TO ASSUME THE BABY IS MINE?! WELL, WHAT I CAN I SAY EXCEPT YABBA DABBA DOOOOO, NOW LETS ENTER INTO THE SILENCE

>>41103267
this is better than stand up comedy

>>41103267
Maybe it's time to assume that the next baby is yours? If that fails the next. You have infinite baby tries anon, never give up. Or you can manifest being a good obedient cuck and raise 10 kids by yourselves

having explosive acrobatic sex with my chinese kung fu wife's thicc pussy holy shit this is so awesome thisi s really actually happening

>>41103256
Thats why im asking, any success with it?

>>41103267
Why did u manifest that?

>>41103267
Once again the mother-anon technique stands alone.

>>41103313
the current thread is a massive shitlift between LOAfags and Universal line fags, ask again in the upcoming thread if none replies to you here

>>41103323
I dont know, maybe some LOAfag could fill me in, anyone?

>>41103267
lmfao

>>41102876
I think this and the last two threads we had shared a lot of quick rundown on this universal line stuff, it was really sudden but there it is, check the archives

>>41102401
>“morality is subjective"
Isn't LoA in agreement with this?

Ok I'm going to try this with things instead of money. I want a second car. I have no money for it and I don't want to trade my current car in I want to keep it let's see how it works out.

>>41103410
method?

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>>41103267
>/loa/... we need to be better men... we need to manifest equality, manifest the end of sexism, respect the golden rule, go vegan, and let it go, my wife's boyfriend is me pushed out, and so is my wife's son. When the bull comes to do his sloppy job on my wifes cunt, all i have to say is "Isn't wonderful?", exactly how i imagined it. Neville would want it that way. Anons, respect the law. Be grateful. Be. Better.

>>41103267
Bejitabro btw

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>>41102377
>>41088564

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQG7NJZRWow

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4D88hj0pkU

>“Upon Aphrodite herself Zeus cast sweet desire to be joined in love with a mortal man, to the end that, very soon, not even she should be innocent of a mortal's love; lest laughter-loving Aphrodite should one day softly smile and say mockingly among all the gods that she had joined the gods in love with mortal women who bare sons of death to the deathless gods, and had mated the goddesses with mortal men.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3ZGGIdpfEM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvXkJwXILlk

>>41099138
>using demonic witchcraft to hop to another dimension were you have raw sex with big booby thick latinas in a penthouse suites
This sounds metal as fuck, sign me up, where do i begin?

>>41103425
I don't know I'm just going to assume. I can't do SAT's for shit and I have poor visualization skills. The most I ever got from doing loa was food

>>41103596
Did you tried scripting or the phone thing

>>41088714
porn fucks this up for me, and most things like it, the ability to imagine from this habitually

>>41099251
Disgusting picture

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>>41092856
>Insanity is doing the same thing again and again and expecting a different result.
That's the definition of practice, you colossal retard

>>41103495
So, wrong thread?

>>41102293
Keep assuming

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John? John Paolucci? Is that you?

John, I can't and won't make this any simpler for you,

You failed at manifesting. You failed. When one thinks of what man is capable of, pushing himself to the limits subconsciously, mentally, and emotionally to achieve heights of returns never before mentioned, your name will not be whispered in the same, reverent fashion that others have.

Nobody will remember John Paolucci. You aren't even a header or footer in the career of someone else. You are no-body. Nothing. Nada. Zilch.

In short, you are an enormous failure.

John, being that you're about 70 years old and your subconscious mind has probably hard-wired itself to accept such failures by now and write off such criticism as being "a story you're telling", really suggests that you've passed the proverbial breaking-point. There's no turning back. This is your career, this is what defines you and this is what you'll defend to the end.

The abhorrent failure that is Universal Line, John Paolucci, that is your legacy.

Maybe I'm over-reaching, however. Who knows? People CAN change. Maybe you'll read this, John, and think long and hard about what a wasteful life you've led. Maybe you'll think, "wow. It's incredible just how abysmal and pathetic UL really IS!" Maybe you'll do SATS in the morning. Maybe you'll take a mental diet.

Maybe in a couple years, John, you'll have revised this failure. I doubt it, though.

I genuinely doubt it.

Now excuse me, i have to work on The Power of Awareness 2. Abdullah estimates over sixty billion British West Indies dollars in sales.

>>41103718
>The Power of Awareness 2
I would prefer Revelation 2, pure schizo kino

>>41103718
Based Neville GOATard

>>41103718
Paolusissies? Our response?????

>>41103718
lmfao

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>>41103718
Name: Neville GODdard , "The Christ," "The Promise"

Origin: United Kingdom (former kings of the world)

Gender: I Am

Age: Eternal

Classification: Beyond this world.
Told by ALL that his manifestaton would FAIL.
Now BEHOLD! He is at BARBADOS.
The most INVINCIBLE.
STRONGEST of the STRONG.

What a shitty thread
These threads just get worse and worse

>>41101875
>Anon that recommended scripting, I've finally started reading it and quite enjoying, seems like a neat approach to keep things varied.
>Actually managing to pick a book up and reading without being distracted already feels like an accomplishment in itself.
>Ironically today I also started writing about yesterday's manifestation, as I've read somewhere its a good practice to cultivate.
>Also managed to find just about the perfect back track collection for a pleasant reading ssesh (it was sitting in my HD since 2015), feels like everything lining up.

I am glad you are enjoying it anon. It is by far the most complete system out there if that makes sense. I am currently doing his method + robotic affirmations throughout the day in between the scripting and journaling session.

Unfortunately, I have been doing it for three-ish weeks now with no real success. I was the anon who was using it so I could get one of the chicks at my office to talk to me in our lunch room. Sadly, I have lost all interest after talking to her and now she doesn't even go to the lunch room anymore (I literally scared her autistic ass off). I'm a bit bitter right now as it your typical case women showing interest but not appreciating the cold approach (because I slightly fumbled it) but also because all the LOA work I did/scripting didn't help me at all. I really got excited about this manifestation and had conviction yet it blew up in my face once again.

Nonetheless, I am going to continue to press onward.

>>41102401
>Even if Neville ended up an alcoholic, he still hung with the Castanedas, came from Barbados money, and earned praise from Israel Regardie.

Bruh, no one gave a shit about Neville when he was alive and he was a dead author until he was brought back in the mid 2010s by Mitch Horowitz.

>His system became the face of New Thought; millions know his name, millions have been influenced. Joseph Murphy, Walter C. Lanyon, and others carried on the legacy. That’s staying power.

Now you really don't know what you are talking about. Joseph Murphy had the same teacher as Neville and was on a magnitude more popular than Neville was during his lifetime.

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>>41103718
The Alpha AND the Omega. The Brute of Barbados. The Original Kabbalist. The Christ of the Jesus. The Emperor of the Ummanifest. The Fiercest of Mystics. The Holiest of Holy. The Height of Hope. The Imperator of Transcendental Idealism. The Highest Level Rosicrucian. The King of this World. The He is that He is. The Abddulah Warrior. The Slayer of Naysayer. The Overlord of New England. The Prince of Good News. The Aquarium Wagger of New Agers. The Missing Arthurian Knight. The Sultan of The Word. The Statemaster. The Undertaker of the Church. The Ovid of the Holy Spirit. The Ricky Martin of Rick and Martyrs. The Judas Killer. The Stand User of Yaldabaoth. The Zhar of Zoroastrianism.

THE SECOND PROMETHEUS

THE ALPHA OF ALPHAS

THE KING OF KINGS

THE LORD OF LORDS

THE EMBODIEMENT OF DIVINE JUSTICE

THE HIGHEST OF HIGHEST (PLANES OF CONSCIOUSNESS)

CHADVILLE OF LANCELOT

MAGEville the MASCULINE

GNOSTICville the HOPEFUL

BRANCEPRUDENTLYville the UNSURPASSABLE

INDOMITABLEville the GREAT

DANCERville the BEAUTIFUL

SWOLEville the SWOLE

ONEville the ABSOLUTE

INREFUTABLEville the WONDERFUL

NEVILLECHAD CHADCHADVILLE CHADCHAD CHADDARD

ENTER NEVILLE CHADDARD

>>41103613
I don't know the phone thing. I'm not entirely sure what scripting is.

>>41103819
My FUARKING HERO

>>41103819
Nevillebro btw

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>>41103718
AW MAN! I JUST GOT FOND FLOW EFFULGENCE PAOLUCCI BROS! YOU KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS!
ALMIGHTY KRISHNA, REMOVE MY LIMBS AND MAKE ME ULANON NUGGET BABY!
AWWW RIGHT! INFINITE FLEXIBILITY, INFINITE STABILITY!
KRISHNA! SHRINK ME DOWN SO I CAN FIT INSIDE ULANON SAMA FORESKIN AND SPHINCTER!
HEHEHEH! LOOK HOW MUCH IN EMBODY PERFECT CHOICE AND SUFFICENT SUPLY!
ALRIGHT KRISHNA, NOW MAKE IT SO I SPEND 12 HOURS IN ULANON'S ASS AND THEN GET TELEPORTED TO HIS FORESKIN, AND I SPEND 12 HOURS THERE TOO! AND IT NEVER ENDS, AND NOBODY CAN REMOVE ME! ALRIGHT! AND I CAN ONLY GET SUSTENANCE FROM ULANON'S SMEGMA AND SHIT! IM GETTING EXCITED! PERFECT FOR MY OCB!
MY WISHES GRANTED! TOO COOL KRISHNA!
WOW ULANON, GUESS IT WAS FORESKIN FIRST HUH?
OH MAN ITS WARM IN HERE! AND WET! YOURE SO EFFULGENT ULANON! THE SMEGMA IS LIKE KRISHNA GOLOKA!
MHMM, I JUST GOTTA TASTE IT! OH MAN! LIKE THAT SWEET SWEET C.A.K.E, YOU JUST GOTTA HAVE IT! A TRUE VEDIC BANQUET! BON APPETITE ULANON!
MHMMFH! MHMM! IT FEELS GOOD TO KNOW THAT ANONS BACK IN THE LOA GENERAL ACCEPTED THAT MY METHOD OF MANIFESTATION IS JACKING OFF TO SHOTA HENTAI!
MYMMHHH! SO GOOD ULANON! YOUR DRY CUM IS SO GOOD! I CANT WAIT TO LIVE ON IT FOREVER LIKE AN HOST OVERSEER! LIKE THE LOATHSOME LOCALIZED REALM BEING I AM ULANON!
THIS IS MY TRUE SELF! THIS ALL ABOUT WHO. I. AM. AWW MAN! THIS IS WHAT I ALWAYS WANTED TO BE. BEING A CUM SHIT MAGGOT MADE TO WORSHIP YOUR CELESTIAL BODIES! TO LIVE OFF YOUR BODILY DISCHARGE IN PERPETUAL WORSHIP! AWWW MAN! (smile)
THE STENCH OF SHIT IS JUST AMAZING!
WHAT THE? 10 MINUTES ALREADY??? TIME TO ADD ANOTHER TEN! HERE'S MY RETURN SO FAR. AWWW MAN IT REEKS IN HERE!
FART ON ME ULANON, I NEED TO CHOKE ON YOUR FARTS! YOUR ANUS IS MY PLANET! YOUR BOWEL MOVEMENTS ARE MY WEATHER AND MY ECOSYSTEM! SUCH IS THE LIFE IN HIGH FREQUENCY REALMS!
IS THAT… A LITTLE NUGGET OF ULANON'S SHIT? OH BOY IM THE LUCKIEST OAP EVER! MHMMFH MHMM AWW MAN!

Keep coping, shitville-cucks, John's methods work in the speed of light, shitville's cucks spend 7 months attempting to attract their S.P or manifest 100 USDs with 0 results

Keep coping, shitville-cucks, John's methods work in the speed of light, shitville's cucks spend 7 months attempting to attract their S.P or manifest 100 USDs with 0 results.

>>41103940
I look like this and say this

Keep coping, shitville-cucks, John's methods work in the speed of light shitville's cucks spend 7 months attempting to attract their S.P or manifest 100 USDs with 0 results.

Keep coping shitville-cucks, John's methods work in the speed of light, shitville's cucks spend 7 months attempting to attract their S.P or manifest 100 USDs with 0 results.

Keep coping shitville-cucks, John's methods work in the speed of light shitville's cucks spend 7 months attempting to attract their S.P or manifest 100 USDs with 0 results.

NEW THREAD
>>41103987
>>41103987
>>41103987

Keep coping shitville-cucks, John's methods work in the speed of light shitville's-cucks spend 7 months attempting to attract their S.P or manifest 100 USDs with 0 results.

kek paolucci-fags lost, not a single member recruited to their 30 dollars monthly trooncord server

>>41104712
They removed him from the OP for good, he got BTFO hard