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Let's continue discussing Scripting, please.

>>41145943
I like scripting. I've had a lot of success with it. I tend to only use it with "big" things that I really want to make sure i get right because it's time and energy consuming, but it's usually worth it because it works.

>>41146019
do you just do it once and drop it or you got a daily routine?

Tell me how you have healed injurys and pain before please

How does imagination create reality?
I’m imagining Roger Rabbit, but he still isn’t real.

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>>41145922
Has anyone tried jumping into the furnace when they're feeling hot? That is to say, going straight into the pit in hopes of finding something of value? Like Carl Jung once said you needed to have roots in hell if a tree was ever to grow to heaven.

Wondering what LOA thinks about this, since I feel like many of the positive thinking consequences may be exaggerated and manipulation to real methods of manifestation

>>41146178
this is not conjuration magic. you do not create things out of thin air. its more like aligning the things and events around you so that you get the desirable outcome.
for instance if you want a specific model of car you do not conjure it out of nothingness but a person who owns the car might „randomly” want to sell it which results in you finding it (on the local marketplace for example) and getting it.

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>>41146019
I agree, intuitively, with you. That's why I'm afraid of "summoning" some really dark shit, if I follow Royce's method, and I DO follow every set of instructions to the letter, in general!
>I thought of manifesting a specific lucid dream through scripting--but isn't that merely Sour Grapes? at least i don't cause IRL damage...

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>>41145213
>Can you elaborate?

What more is there to say besides that you suck at scripting?

>>41145943
>Let's continue discussing Scripting, please.

Pic related is another excellent book about scripting but more "general" in nature.

>>41146295
>That's why I'm afraid of "summoning" some really dark shit,

Why would that happen in your case? That applies to any method anon where you could use it to harm people. I know I have before in the past because I was far more immature than I a now

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>>41144216
>>41144322
>>41144534
>the fact that Royce works with a lot of rich elites
Speaking of which, I was sure when I first started reading the book, that the author was a women, you can imagine my surprise later, and that the contents are riddled with "new thought" wishful thinking, even though the author himself take himself apart from that.
Also, the thing about the fatom bot quite picked my curiosity, the bot is long dead but nowadays it seems they have the Randonautica app instead.
Yesterday I went on a trip but I can talk more about that later.

>Daily journals at night aren't really LOA but I find it really helps with "draining the mind" of the previous day
I'm actually doing the journal the next day, while also including the manifestation or whatever I did the previous night, a bit sort of like revision, or maybe reinforcement, or at the very least to to keep track of what I manifest. Tho I can see the why doing it at the end of the day too.

>where you are forcing yourself to make your ideal reality happen in a day by day basis instead of day dreaming off in some future
>But it's difficult as I got nothing going on in my life (I have an extremely comfy life with no drama thanks to the LOA) so I have too much free time
I kind get that, as I'm in a somewhat similar place (except maybe for being in dire straits economically),
So usually I'm in a mix of having too much time on my hands where nothing really interesting happens throughout the days, or having too much happening that I find it hard to do what I want to do, like its hard to find a balance.

But then there is even more the reason I rather stick to weekly scripting and not obsessing about it daily. That being said, I do kind wish my manifestations would produce some faster results.

>>41146249
Being a big follower of Allan Watts, way before I got to know LoA or Neville, first that pic related isn't a genuine portrait of what he said, but yeah too much yearning seems to cause the opposite effect of that what you are, and that is the duality of putting /LoA/ into practical use.

Whats the answer?

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>>41118688
>>41146588
>>41143228
Fuck why did I go and actually read that right at the end of the thread.
Begone doubtful thoughts!

>>41145922
>Consciousness is the only Reality
>Proceeds to let ego dictate
This is why LOA is a huge manipulation

loa is retarded, sr is the only true path

>>41143866
>Is not action towards a goal not faith you can have it?
Good post what the were you getting at?

>>41143287
>Can anyone recommend some binaurals to get into sats easier?
there is a specific track for mediating on SP, its in the mega archive in OP, I think meditations folder

>>41130390
also requoting this post as I want to try it as well,
one big point I think most people forget is manifesting their self-improvement to become master of their own mind, to become master manifest-ers and always living on the end without a hint of self doubt

>>41147576
when the heck did it become a war between /loa/ and /sr/?
why do you think one negates the other?
t. three weeks going strong

>>41147393
>Also, the thing about the fatom bot quite picked my curiosity, the bot is long dead but nowadays it seems they have the Randonautica app instead.

I can confirm that the Randonautica app works as when I used it I always had weird shit happen to me.

>That being said, I do kind wish my manifestations would produce some faster results.

I'm in the same boat anon - I would really like to be in a position where "manifestations rain down" on me like Joseph Alai says. There is absolutely nothing wrong with my life except I am bored out of my mind and I am directionless/lack purpose. BUT fuck having struggle for the sake of struggle or needlessly conflict, I am happy I get to live my life similar to a retiree.

With manifesting I want it down as an art first that I can 100% depend on before I start to push myself in my life. In my case I keep getting monkey paw manifestations but Royce tells me I can fix that with his picture scripts (which I should really do but I am so lazy currently). But he mentioned that podcast I shared last thread how much easier it is just to use AI to generate your images for you.

Anyhow, I think I am going to take a break from these generals as I believe this website as whole is fucking me up for the worse. Hopefully you end up with your ideal Japanese girlfriend soon anon.

>>41147730
>when I used it I always had weird shit happen to me.
Can you share the experience?
And more importantly, knowing that it is something, how do we use it to our benefit?

>BUT fuck having struggle for the sake of struggle or needlessly conflict, I am happy I get to live my life similar to a retiree.
I'm on the same boat, I just a chill but fulfilling life,
May I suggest on the posts above, manifesting about actually getting good at this stuff may be the answer

>Hopefully you end up with your ideal Japanese girlfriend soon anon.
Amen, God bless and may we will soon meet again.

>>41146160
you will find countless stories in the subreddit linked in the sticky, search up there

>>41147448
So Im getting the feeling using LOA on people is a bad idea. I got a specific person for awhile, but it was a monkey paw scenario with ironic road bumps that led to a horrible end. Got to suck on some great milkers several times though.

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>>41146249
>Has anyone tried jumping into the furnace when they're feeling hot? That is to say, going straight into the pit in hopes of finding something of value? Like Carl Jung once said you needed to have roots in hell if a tree was ever to grow to heaven.
This is probably unrelated but it reminds me how in a lot of Neville Goddard's lectures he says that life on earth is a "school of educative darkness" or a furnace, and that furnace burns man away to reveal a golden liquid light which is the result or the perfection. Jung's quote here was likely based on kabbalah and the qliphoth, the tree of life and its "husks", and how the Messiah has to descend into hell to come back to God.
On another note, the "just think positively" bullshit of a lot of new age teachings directly contradicts Neville, because obviously it would imply that you're working to be positive, that you're running after some goal rather than being positive. After all, the end of longing is being. If you were positive, you would not have to fill your mind with positivity.

>>41147393
>>41146747
DESU my script is going to be quite "earthly"; I just want to have another vacation in a german-founded town , I used to go as a teenager, to spend weeks eating fast food and ordering Temu Trash, visit all the traditional Churches of my City...explore the whole system of subway +bus + train roads...I couldnt do all that without scripting, for...reasons

>>41146253
>this is not conjuration magic
But Lilanon said I can fly and live forever and alter my entire body to be a vampire and make the past rewind and make things appear and all the other stuff.

This is probably a nowhere-post. Has anybody ever manifested something they didn't know they wanted or needed?
I've been quietly going at it, accepting my routine, living alone and trying to stay consistent with hobbies. Sometimes I feel like meeting an interesting person, stumbling on or being invited onto some kind of project that would help life feel more fulfilling and rich.
I notice manifesting's usually for something you absolutely know you want but in this case I don't know what it could be or best for me currently in my life. I'm just craving something memorable outside of work and at home.

I often think about dating, better yet manifesting the most compatible partner, but I don't think my carnal desires understand how much work a relationship is or what it means to invite somebody into my life. Any help's great, thanks /loa/

>>41148999
how is Neville not another "think positively bro" author?
he tells you to mental diet and disregard negative thoughts

>>41145922
This what the powers that be use to play God? That why they also love Gematria and soft disclosure in media?

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>>41147650
I'm the Alarmanon. Let me know how it works for you. Give it a few weeks. I did my original four sets of affirmations for about 3 weeks, and then after i saw the changes i wanted to see, i wrote and recorded new ones this weekend and started with them yesterday. The new ones are very similar to the first ones but with little additions and changes as I see changes in myself, further refining the manifestations.
I'm going to reevaluate every 3-4 weeks and record be new ones, even if it's the same words, just so my mind doesn't start tuning it out from familiarity.

I have also set the same alarms to go off about 10-20 minutes after I go to bed so I drift off to sleep to them.

I've been doing LOA stuff for a few years and have had a lot of success but this may be the most efficient method I've found.

>>41146029
I'm the Futurama poster, so if you've ever seen the cousin fucker images, that's me and how I use it. Script a scene and then use that as the script for your SATS scene. I do journal affirmations pretty often (should be daily but it's not) which is similar to scripting.

>>41148834
Personally I feel the same way, if you are going about it in a "they will do XYZ" way. Instead you have to change yourself, "I am the perfect bf/gf for SP". I still don't recommend it though. I very successfully brute-force manifested an SP and it turned out to be the worst. Just awful

>>41149110
I've been there, still am sometimes. You might try affirmations that are general, "I am happy and content, I am fulfilled, I have the perfect balance of activity and down time, I am consistently surrounded by love, i am open to be experiences", etc. It's worked for me. My life now vs 3 years ago is unrecognizable.

>>41149313
>Let me know how it works for you. Give it a few weeks
I will, but to start with I have a few questions,
do you say stuff as first or third person? as if "you are ..."

>I go to bed so I drift off to sleep to them
I was wondering about this too, as I don't actually have a set wake up time (gladly), I wonder which time would be more effective

>I very successfully brute-force manifested an SP and it turned out to be the worst. Just awful
along with >>41148834
>but it was a monkey paw scenario with ironic road bumps that led to a horrible end. Got to suck on some great milkers several times though
Curious to hear both stories in more detail if you can,
currently going for a SP but keeping details minimal as is: just deeply in love and passionate.

I have to admit I'm fairly close to switching to GP instead, but I think I need to at least make it work once just for the sake of it

>>41149233
I think pretty much yeah, I use to the delve in semi-open masonic order way back in the past, and it draws a lot of parallels,
except they put a lot of mysticism on top, steps and hurdles you have to go through, and that's probably why they call it "the occult"

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>>41148999
the golden liquid light is also used in the Gateway experience, to form the Resonant Energy Balloon (REBAL)

>>41149313
>>41147393
I feel motivation, AND ALSO, I feel the huge burden of responsibility now...I will script for the greater benefit of my neighbor; fellow man, for courageous experimentation and creative adventures.

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Alright, I see we have the scripting routine trend here, let us see how many anons attempt this and get sucess stories with it, personally I feel content enough with the techniques I already have.

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>W-WHAT?! IN THE NAME OF ABDULLAH AND JESUS CHRIST, WHAT DID YOU FELLOW 4CHANNERS SAID?! THAT DESPITE DOING SATS FOR TEN YEARS, SCRIPTING MY AFFIRMATIONS ON MY PHONE, WALLS, AND RIB CAGE USING A BUTTER KNIFE, FOLLOWING A MENTAL DIET LIKE A MORMON MISSIONARY, BREAKING MY SLEEP CYCLE WITH HYPNOTIC ASMR, TALKING WITH AI NEVILLE LIKE IF IT WERE MY GOD, SPENDING MY SAVINGS IN EDWARD ARTS COUCHING AND BOOKS, PRAYING TO THE I AM, WITH ALL THAT, STILL, MY SP FUCKED ANOTHER MAN?! AND AFTER DOING WEEKS ON END DAILY REVISIONS AND GETTING AN ANEURYSM, SHE ENDED UP PREGNANT?! AND NOW I NEED TO ASSUME THE BABY IS MINE?! WELL, WHAT CAN I SAY EXCEPT YABBA DABBA DOOOOO, NOW LETS ENTER INTO THE SILENCE

>>41147393
I want to manifest becoming that woman

>>41150000
>I want to manifest becoming that woman
A lot of anons are probably trying to manifest having sexy with her, so you know what will happen...

How do you know when your manifestation is actually starting or taking hold? Like are there affirming signs from the universe or does it just sort of happen? Sorry if these are dumb questions I'm entirely new to this concept.

>>41150479
It just happens!

>>41150000
Trips

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I'm a very cowardly person, sadly, truth be said. I know I COULD manifest a trip to Saudi Arabia, and to DPRK, but...it won't be a dream, it will be IRL, I don't have the guts and eggs, to do it!!

>>41149891
This copypaste is going to haunt this place forever.

>>41150000
Holy checked

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>“To be conscious of being poor while praying for riches is to be rewarded with that which you are conscious of being — poverty.”

Dude this shit actuality work?
I was doing loa about 2-3 days ago and I fell asleep while doing a sats where I visualized my brother getting a better job. It's been a tough couple of months for him.
I just got a call where he did go to a interview and they asked when can he join. I think this is almost close to sure. They haven't given him a full ok but this is the most progress he has made in an interview in months.
That's crazy. I might be a believer. Fuck this shit might be real.

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>>41149313
> I'll tell you what I'd do, man;
> two affirmations at the same time, man.

I hate the cult of toxic positivity

Ok fuck it I'm assuming I have a cute+hot wife and let's see how fast it comes to fruition.

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>>41149668
I do mine in first person. It's my voice so it's the same as if i was saying the affirmation to myself. Do what you feel your subconscious would accept more. We're in that half- awake place as we fall asleep and as we wake up so I think they both would work. I know when my alarms go off in the morning I actually do end up falling back asleep for that 20 minutes as they play and then my "real" alarm vibrates and is much louder and it gets me up. So in both cases I'm lightly snoozing at i listen to them. It's great.

As for SP, it was very early in my LOA journey so I did every method you could think of... repeating affirmations, 369 journaling, scripting, meditation, SATS, everything. And guess what, they all worked. Method doesn't matter, it's about impressing your subconscious mind. But i forced someone to act in ways that wasn't natural for them and it was an incredibly awful experience. I posted about it all with pictures of balloons to keep track of my posts a while back.

>>41149727
Relax buddy, have fun with it

>>41151261
Genuinely made me laugh out loud. Shit, man!

>>41145922
Yeaaah. Too bad this shit doesnt work.

>>41149075
>live forever
only Jesus can do that for you

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Can extreme physical changes really happen, even in the span of mere months (3 to 5, for example)? I genuinely, earnestly desire to have photo related body type. I look nothing even close to this rn...and yes, Im a man, so no sex change here.
I struggle to assume and believe, the mere possibility of such an extreme, physics-shattering, change

>>41152972
First, thank you, because thanks to your picture I don't find myself too skinny anymore.

As for changing your body with LOA, I think you can before I may have. For two days now I noticed that my skin suddenly got significantly more tanned, which doesn't make sense because summer ended over a month ago here... but two weeks ago I wished my skin was more tanned, considered it granted and coming, and eventually forgot about it.

( Long story: I was hallucinating while listening to a gateway tape, so in a state comparable to the "State Akin To Sleep" or "Void state". At some point I saw myself in a weird hospital, with my body on a table (I was out of it), and a computer with values about my body that I could change. I made me a little shorter, my hair brighter, and my skin more tanned but it was the part I cared the less. I believed that it was granted and coming. I often checked my size, sometimes my hair color, but never checked my skin color. Then five days ago I had a very bad news that made me literally sick and I totally forgot about all this. And since yesterday, my skin is tanned for no reason. My size and hair color have not changed however, maybe because I cared and checked, which is what LOA says. )

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>>41149891
He actually said this.

>>41147448
my bad man, I don't want to cause doubts in you. I was just genuinely baffled. Here's the timeline, I have it written down in my journal:
>before August 15: during SATS, I visualized my SP lying in bed with me, 10PM happy, loving, everything perfect, daily.
>august 15: SATS. Same scene, this time, she was pregnant, and I couldn't not acknowledge that. Woke up next day feeling good, like I had a child.
>same scene for a week after. Browsing these threads, the subreddit (inb4 go back), and a YouTube channel.
>august 24: SP fucking posts on Instagram that she's pregnant. I didn't even know she was dating. She lives in another state, and we I last saw her in May.
>i let SATS go for a couple of days, couldn't bring myself to re-engage.
>last week: she posts a gender reveal. It's a girl. I was right, that was what I'd been feeling in my SATS.
>i am here
fucks sake. how do you explain that? I was genuinely freaked out. I'm still learning to manifest, and maybe I shouldn't have gone so deep so fast, and messing it up like this. anyway, i'm not too sure what to do now.

>>41154174
>>same scene for a week after
It's this part. This is how it works.
You only focused on this so you got monkeypaw'd

>Monkey paw isn't real
Yes it is. The universe always take the path of least resistance so you need to be exact with your scene.

Also don't give up once events start moving.
If you're manifesting 100k dollars and the universe sends you 1000 don't act like you got what you wanted. Ignore that abd continue with your sats scene until it happens as the universe is a lazy teasing bitch.

The girl you want date started dming you? You're not done until the date actually happens continue to SATS.

>>41150294
>A lot of anons are probably trying to manifest having sexy with her, so you know what will happen...
At the same time?
>>41150535
Quads actually

>>41154273
>You only focused on this so you got monkeypaw'd
>path of least resistance
makes sense. thank you. i'll revise the shit out of this situation, make it very specific, very clear. no ambiguity. i'll double down. fuck the universe.
Meanwhile, I'll keep reading Neville's books. I know, should have done that from the start, but whatever.
thanks a million.

>>41152529
So I'm the anon that started with the recorded affirmation yesterday, instead for doing several small pieces I did one larger 2 minutes piece.
I did my meditation and for time in a while i couldn't get to sleep right away, I was drowsy for sure, but as I it felt like was drifting off to sleep, the alarm goes off, so I had to reset it at least two times, I think the third I was still half awake but let it play.
This is where it gets hazy, maybe it had something to do with day (23) afterall, I had a bunch of half awake of vivid experiences, I don't remember most, but one that I actually felt some in bed with hugging me, it was unmistakably my farther, I just jokingly turned to him and said
>what you're doing here, get back
and then I quickly realized as I woke up, that I'm alone in my apato in Japan halfway across the world to where he is.
He is goofy and everything but hugs were rare, I'm pretty sure he tends to astral voyage as well. So that was interesting...

Anyway, it was a sort of eventful evening to say the least, I guess the recording work well, there were moments I could hear it ringing in my head.

>>41154174
Geez that nuts anon, the law is reciprocal after all, so maybe the actual situation also left a imprint in your own mind, but who the hell could tell what exactly went on.
If its any consolation, I don't think it was your manifestation that caused chain of events,

>>41154273
>It's this part. This is how it works.
>You only focused on this so you got monkeypaw'd
>Monkey paw isn't real
>Yes it is. The universe always take the path of least resistance so you need to be exact with your scene.
Care to elaborate here? What exactly even is monkepaw?
He has been doing things consistently and yet to just do it even more?
With regards being specific or not, I would think lying in bed with both together would me more than specific enough while broad enough to how it could get there.

>>41154817
>What exactly even is monkepaw?
Uncultured swine.

It's a reference to a wish granting monkey paw. Every time a wish is made one of its fingers curls inwards.
The wish granting nature of a monkeypaw is cursed.
You wish your noisy neighbours would be quiet? They die in their sleep.
You wish you were skinny? You contract a stomach disease that causes you to waste away.
You wish that girl you like is pregnant? She becomes pregnant with another man.

With SATS you need to close any loopholes because the universe takes the path of least resistance towards your scene.
Or don't. Many things you could manifest are difficult to get fucked up like that but you should still be thinking about it.

>>41149313
Hey Alarmanon, would it be good use to use "Everyday and in every way i get healthier and healthier" for health? if one has many symptoms (i feel way less resistance on that affirm that simply "i have perfect health" which god knows how long would it manifest)

>>41146160
Bad bike accident, doctors said the timeline was months long for me to get better. I couldn't move, couldn't walk, it hurt everywhere, broken bones, damaged internal organs. 3 friends put me to bed. I said a prayer, and it worked. It's not /LOA/ but I had help and I could get out of bed and limp around the next day and I got all better in a few weeks vs the months that doctors suggested.

For you I'd suggest understanding, truly understanding to the point you know it, that your mind creates your reality. The placebo effect is real. That should tell you your mind can heal you. You can greatly accelerate your healing with your own mind. Be positive, upbeat, and know that you'll be healed faster than should be possible because you're willing it.

>>41155078
Its important to live in the end, if you say I'm getting there, you end up just always getting but never arriving there.
Try to be specific with your symptons,
> I feel comfortable around ...
> I can move without effort ...

loa doesn't exist, sr is the only path

>>41154745
Hey that's cool! Yeah my alarm repeats for 5 minutes and then stops, so that's why I have so many at five minute intervals. Figure out how long yours goes and set 3 or 4 at that interval.

>>41155078
Sure, use whatever you want. I use blanket affirmations like this and they work for me, as well as more specific ones.

When I do SATS at night I visualize the scene a couple of times but I can't really fall asleep to it. My mind just wanders off or I get the feeling that I should stop doing SATS and then later I fall asleep. Thats not a issue right?

>>41155225
path to what exactly? tried it for a few months, haven't noticed jack shit from it in terms of benefits
probably because I wasn't a porn-addicted degen though

>>41156943
Same,I tried it for a full year. Only made me slightly hornier, but else 0 benefits, didn't manifest anything too. SR cult needs to end

>>41156124
the important thing is to fall asleep with the feeling of the wishfulfilled, do S.A.T.S for a bit, then head to bed, also don't wrry about the mind wandering in the midst of you looping it, you will get better, just gently return to the scene, feeling is the secret, so focus on feeling it as secret as possible, don't make it a chore or something serious, be playful with it, remember that you can also do SATS when you wake up and are still in a drowsy state

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>>41156124
Hey, we're in the topic of recording yourself over here >>41149313
And I have also on the past scripted out a scene and then recorded it for myself like a guided meditation. I included counting aloud down from 100 or so too, to get me into alpha waves. Then my own voice guided me through the scene and I could relax and just go on the journey. I think i ended it with a repeated affirmation so I would drift off to that. It was kind of like when you're half asleep and hear the TV or people talking and you start dreaming about what they're saying. I can't remember if I did it in first person (I feel...) or second person (you feel...) but I think either would work. Give it try

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>>41149715
This is the shape the resonant energy balloon is supposed to have? For some reason I always imagined (and felt) mine as two spirals around me, often spinning each in their own opposite direction, sometimes spinning both in the same direction, but always moving like a spiral around me. Does it mean there is something wrong with me?

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Hey everyone, once again reposting from >>41105977

I've actually been experimenting, and now made a 30 min track, that goes from 10hz to 4hz, but it stays the major part between 7~6hz so its peak meditation area, while if you stick to end it should leave ready to sleep.
But mainly I'm experimenting with adding music, got a very chill track that plays in intervals, but I'm even thinking mixing up music to dictate the mood, something like vangelis for example.

https://files.catbox.moe/8wxgzv.zip
> 10hz ~ 4hz experiment, music and raw

https://files.catbox.moe/44udc0.7z
>three track from psychic seduction, has decent tunes to suit the mood

https://files.catbox.moe/m8cx70.7z
> raw binaural beats, from a old album, several frequencies

https://files.catbox.moe/ke7cma.7z
> self made raw binaural goes from higher frequency to lower one

Anyway, hope you guys can try them out and give some feedback. Ganbatte!

Serious question
Since LOA is about assumptions and beliefs
Would it not make sense to convince yourself that you are god and can do anything you want?
or that god is listening to you and will give you anything you want
that seems much easier than visualizing and then hoping that does something

>>41157781
You think its easier to make yourself god than it is to use a hack to convince your subconcious that you are something that you currently are not?

but protip, yeah Neville covers that, not only that but goes the Gnostic route, or you could go the Allan Watts route.

>>41157781
Yes, that's literally the core of it. Neville flat out said "Man is all imagination, and god is man's own wonderful human imagination." So it's not two separate options, believing you are god is the method.

Visualizing, affirming, SATS, those aren't about "hoping it does something," they are just training wheels to get you to accept the fact that you're the operant power. If you can really assume "I am the only cause, I imagine and it hardens into fact," you don't need to chase sparks or wait for signs.

The trap most people fall into is they say "I am god" but still live like a victim of odds, time, or external permission. That's not the state. To actually hold the assumption, you have to stop outsourcing power. You imagine, it happens. Period.

Convincing yourself you are god is easier if you actually mean it. The """work""" is just persisting there long enough that the world stops arguing back.

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>>41157006
that is just a regular shitposter that posts this every thread, at least only once per thread,
I don't understand he feels it needs to be antagonistic

but just sharing personal experience, coming from someone who was a degenerate coomer for a heck of a long time,
I think it comes to something that Neville said at some point, it all comes down to how much focus you give things,
so you can't give continuous attention to porn expect to have a healthy sexual relationship or something like that
and I think the danger lies even deeper, to for example get off on some degenerate content like whores and ntr, you might start unconsciously associate irl women you're interested in with the ones you fetishizing over fiction
and if you know /loa/ you know that does lead...

so yeah just a small rant from a past degenerate coomer, luckily focusing on manifesting and achieving my goals naturally seemed to have killed my interest of cooming

>>41157838
It does feel easier to me yeah. I really have no clue what Im doing with LOA. There's so much conflicting information and theories it just gets confusing and that isn't conductive to assumption and belief. If I sit down and visualize that quickly becomes "fuck did i do it right? better try again to make sure. is this even a good method? let me read one more book on the topic to make sure"
If I just say "fuck it Im God I can do anything" then there's no resistance. I was never religious though so I understand most people have hangups about that idea.

>>41157779
My question is offtopic but is there a frequency that can make you hallucinate, that you would mix with some goa trance track have a sort of lsd trip just by listening?

>>41157779
>Theta
Well I know this is true because I use a track of this on YouTube to help me reach SATS during the day with reproducible reliable results.
Also you really do feel deep relaxation from it. I feel more rested than any sleep after my session is done.

I didn't know about the other frequencies. Wouldn't Delta be exactly what every SATS practitioner wants? The point of SATS is to influence your subconscious so if this frequency gets you there isn't that basically a cheat code? I'm going to test it out these next few days.

>>41158026
Just from binaurals no, but I think such psychedelics tracks are such a thing yes, it used to be quite a hype in the past.
Personally its just really easy to get in very deep meditation, sometimes I even detracted from my body, like levitating or swaying like a tree.

>>41157779
Is that some new-agey shit?

>>41158127
Please test them, specially the ones I've made.
IMO theta is what we want to get since SATS, state akin to sleep. is the closer we can get without going entirely off.
Even getting close to 4hz you're pretty much almost passing out already.

It is with that mind that I made my binaural with a variable frequency, it starts on 10hz so match slightly tired but busy mind before sleep.
Goes down to 7~6hz for the most time which imo is around the ideal meditation while still being able to focus.
Then goes down again to 4hz to close up and let you go straight to sleep afterwards.

Someone who is the least bit used to meditation can make the best of it, the usual routine of first focusing on breath, relaxing, and spreading the energy.
If you listen to this while in bed, the chance is big to you falling asleep straight away, but given the objective is imagining, we need to find a balance.

Also, raws seem to be more effective, but I find music can help keeping a desired mood.

>>41158167
What's new age about it?

>>41145922
Things are wonderful. My family easily helps everyone in need now and receives endless abundance in return. Things are better than ever and they continue to improve daily. Everyone who has ever helped me or my family is incredibly blessed and happy to see the immense wealth and endless happiness and success my family now enjoys

>>41146249
So how do you work around this law?

>>41145922
When I've tried visualizing my SP the last couple nights I've been feeling an outside energy trying to frustrate me. I should look in to this.

I have decided to manifest some of those mini chocolate donuts, will keep you updated

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>>41149313
Good to see ya again futurama anon. I know lil anon split. What happened to that mother Anon and the orc poster. Also the guy that brought the bengston method up, what happened to him. I think he was bicycle anon. Did balloon anon ever come back?

/x/ sure has changed since I spilt and came back. I called those Oneirosophy guys larpers as a joke and they had a collective meltdown. UL bros used to be ones here that had their shit together. What happened?

>>41159175
>So how do you work around this law
It's an issue with states. People want to obtain a positive state to remove a negative state. Such as
I want to be rich. Why? Because I hate being poor.
I want a gf. Why? Because I'm Lonely.

In the 2 examples the real problem is being poor and being lonely. Money and bitches won't solve the problem. You can ask anybody with a high paying job and a trophy wife.

If you don't handle the problem then it will persist. That's why a lot of rich actors that get laid all the time become raging drug addicts. They have a fundamental issue they're ignoring and it haunts them.

You work around this law by ignoring it. Alan watts is a philosopher not a loa teacher. Lol

There are some loa gurus that tell you to take care of negative states and beliefs or you can't manifest, but that's bullshit. Just do sats or any other technique without expectations and you'll be cool.

Hope That helps my nigga.

>>41162408
>Good to see ya again futurama anon
>Did balloon anon ever come back
That's me also lol. I never meant to get these names, I just post with an image theme sometimes so I can keep track of my posts and reply to people. I think lilanon and motheranon are still around

>>41162408
>You work around this law by ignoring it. Alan watts is a philosopher not a loa teacher. Lol
While that is true, having learned from Watts before learning about helped me a great deal. Specially when it comes to realizing your conscious is one with the universe.
Something that clicked perfectly when I started reading from Neville. The main difference being that Neville actually teaches to use that conscious to create your world.

But the biggest point imo, is to let go of the outcome and just enjoy the ride, that automatically weakens the negative state.

>keep visualizing my ideal female self
>keep seeing women I'm jealous of

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Has anyone ever given up on their desire and then it ended up being true?

When I say give up, I mean that I've stopped manifesting for this specific desire, I care less and less about the outcome, and although I wouldn’t call myself doubtful, I've been starting to reach a point where even if the outcome doesn't come my way, I think I'll be fine.

Been nearly 3 months since my SP blocked me and almost 5 since I've seen her in person. What are some tips to manifesting a reconnection?

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>>41162408
>I called those Oneirosophy guys larpers as a joke and they had a collective meltdown.
The correct way to put it is that you got BTFO'd beyond oblivion, schizo-man.

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remember to take the GP pill anons, i tried chasing my SP's to no avail. their attitude towards me is lukewarm at best and it makes me feel like shit. but as i went to the grocery store there was a really qtpie blonde working there, for a single moment our eyes met as we said hi to each other and it felt so fucking good. open yourself up to new possibilities.

>>41162408
>What happened to that mother Anon
i just don't feel like coming here any longer, even if i wasn't getting targeted constantly i knew that all of my problems could be easily solved by "just assume better" and "just let go." there just isn't anything i need to come here for.

Why is it there are people out there who can effortlessly make billions of dollars, get mad puss, and do everything they ever desire, yet never once practice the Law, yet people who consciously try and practice The Law, never seem to have that level of success?

I just can’t seem to visualize properly — I either get distracted or I strain myself trying too hard and then I can’t fall asleep. Right now I’m trying to do the ladder experiment. I started just a couple days ago. Are there any exercises to help improve visualization skills? Some kind of meditations?

>>41163979
I believe it's because some people are better at manifesting than others.
My theory is that some people are born with the ability to tap into that subconscious part our ourselves far easier. These people are mainly celebrities, you notice how some of them believe in loa? They always talk about it like it's super easy. They just visualise or believe what they desire and it happens eventually. I mean they're not faking that, as it's actually easier for them to manifest compared to us.
To answer your question, the reason you can't manifest like them is the same reason why some people are great at things like lucid dreaming and astral projection their entire life. Surprisingly people with those mentioned abilities also tend to become master manifestors, due to how the subconscious is influenced best when you're able to get the body to pure consciousness state (SATS). Some successful people also mention experiencing OBE or being great at lucid dreaming. Xxxtentacion the rapper guy. He spoke about being able to astral project while in prison. Andrew tate went from literally nothing to a sex pimp millionaire, but he also mentioned being good at lucid dreaming.
Neville Goddard was able to have OBE at 7 to 13, and then you wonder why he was soo good at manifesting.
So that's my theory, I believe that people who are able to have these altered states of consciousness are also able to manifest with ease. And it makes a lot of sense when you look at the patterns.

>>41164049
meditate and keep your attention on a random image in your head, be it a penny, a tree, a soccer ball, etc, if your mind wanders, you just gently bring it back to the image in your head, do it for 10 minutes twice a day

>>41163893
Good for you mother anon, I manifested for you the best, to find what you truly want and that you're happy in it :-)

>>41164488
i think in the end i just want to be at peace, i want to live a comfortable life where i am not cold and hungry all the time, i want to be surrounded by people who genuinely respect me and view me as their equal, i want to love and be loved in return. my most immediate desire is a top of the line gaming pc, that BF6 campaing trailer looked amazing and i know that my computer wont be running that shit.

https://youtu.be/Lw4WBofOkLE?si=d6_j-pdaMZEUmWZn

>>41163893
remember to take whatever pills your psychiatrist prescribes, m*ther-anon

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>>41164528
> respect me
oof.
> loved in return
OOF... oh boy
> gaming pc
OOF! OH boy!
> BF6 trailer
OOF!! OH BOY!

Dear Jesus... how old are you? Better spend your time reading some books my brainrotted consoomer, fren:

Epictetus - Discourses
Seneca - Letters on Ethics
Pierre Hadot - Philosophy as a way of life
Simone Weil - Waiting for God

>>41163979
>yet never once practice the Law
how can you affirm that?

>>41165268
i also tried to pretend that i was above the human experience and it turned me into a depressed sack of shit. god didn't put me here and create all of these experiences for me just so i could snub at them, that would be an insult to his work of creation. besides those books talk about things that i am already knowledgeable about.

>>41165274
He's assuming

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>>41163979
Because the Law isn't something you "pick up" when you read neville, it's running 24/7 whether you believe in it or not.

Those billionaires, athletes, celebrities, whatever, they are not outside the law. They are just unconsciously living in assumptions that line up with wealth, power, success, sex appeal, etc. They don't sit around worrying if they are "doing it right" like so many of you retards are. They identify with winning, they know they will win, so the world conforms.

Meanwhile a lot of people who consciously try to practice loa start from the state of "I'm broke, I'm lonely, I'm ugly, women don't want me, I'm a failure, but maybe if I visualize hard enough it will fix me." THATS STILL LIVING IN LACK NIGGUA. Reading neville doesn't change the state you persist in, it just makes you more aware of it.

Neville literally said "You are already that which you want to be, and your refusal to believe it is the only reason you do not see it. The "naturals" just never refuse it. The conscious practitioners (like you) often do and bitch in this thread about it.

The difference is just they don't fight themselves about their state.

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>>41165298
> i also tried
*You* tried - ...to turn the teachings into an ego trip. many such cases.
> it turned me into a depressed sack of shit
Lack of exercise does that to man. Start with 5-10 min of basic exercise a day (not joking). Reading centuries old wisdom will not turn you to shit - unless you do nothing else but read and do not actually apply anything what you read. The fact you crave vidya and are stuck at the gamer-cope level shows you are currently down, distracted, and not practicing, not applying the wisdom you consumed. Get up, read the books again, keep living as you know you should.

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>>41162408
>I called those Oneirosophy guys larpers as a joke and they had a collective meltdown.
Oh you're a master of revision I see, because that's not what happened.

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>>41162408
Shitting up threads and lying is a joke now?
>mfw i enter to the /LoA/ general

>>41162408
>hope that helps
Ah yes this guy.
You’ve never helped anyone and you never will.

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>>41162408
>they had a collective meltdown
Holy delusion...

>>41162408
Thanks god we have the archives, so we have concrete evidence that you were always full of shit.

>>41162408
I hate tripfags, namefags and crypto-tripfags so fucking much it's unreal. If it weren't for the based autism that started /one/, we will still relying on this kangaroo logic to sort what Goddard and the rest were about. Making the board unusable "as a joke", true normienigger animal behavior on display. People like you ruined not only this place, but 4chan as a whole.

>>41165952
>>41165964
>>41165989
>>41165998
>>41166004
un fagot même, as the French would say

>>41166037
/LoA/ will forever live coping and be a designated place for /r9k/ central of /x/ from now on. Just like Satan won't even exist without God, this general will only be a shadow of /one/. Darkness is simply the absence of light.

>>41166042
let's see if (You) keep that general going for longer than a month

>>41166049
Aaaaw, the little micro celebrity ego got hurt :( ouch ouchy. You see, even if the general dissapears, the damage is already done. Anyone look at the archives and they will find their way to understand Neville as Neville himself intended. Whatever kick you got out of perpetrating delusions is over, forever, period. Or not, because you can stop mentioning /one/ anytime you want and it's like it doesn't even exists, but again, the devil depends on God, because otherwise, he will have to realize that his life was a lie all along. /LoA/ and /r/NevilleGoddard lost so hard, and all the blogposting faggots are so assblasted, and yet won't set foot on the other general because they know how it will end up. Playtime's over.

Let’s say I want to manifest 10 million dollars. When I do it, I imagine myself talking to even more successful people who have way more than me - like 100 million or a billion - and then I fall into despair, realizing how poor I am compared to them. Am I doing it right? I mean I am triggering my genuine emotions of having 10 million, right?

>>41166086
What is the point in this question when you can’t even manifest 1 dollar. Why worry about the limits when you can’t even hit the minimum. Pointless.

>>41162408
>UL bros used to be ones here that had their shit together.
And they still do, retard.

>>41154174
from what i can tell, you conditioned your desire
the mistake is thinking your SP is a specific person, and not an archetype
i’m no expert but what i’ve learned from goddard’s book “At Your Command” after listening to it a few times is that your awareness of a conscious state of being (not necessarily your desires) is what is always creating the world you perceive around you. as you align that state of consciousness with your desires, things begin to line up around you. in this case, in creating a desire for an SP, your world is aligning itself to that desire. that desire, however, was conditioned to a specific person, who has their own life and desires, different doubts and beliefs, and perhaps is better at manifesting the life they want for themselves. Intuition allows us to pick up on what other people are going through, but by applying our old ways of thinking to it, we create doubt, which manifests itself as a “misalignment”. nothing is misaligned though, except your own consciousness. essentially, and please don’t take this the wrong way, but your reality is aligning to get this person out of the way so that you can become new and the mystery SP you really desire can find you (i.e., you have to let go of the old and let your past self and desires die before you can truly clear the way for the things you want). give yourself the gift of new life and become born again into your new self, which is not disappointed in the outcome but excited to see what happens next - good luck anon, I believe in you.

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>>41162408
/one/ is not only doing a better job restoring Neville's reputation than this place as we speak, it's also reconciling every approach to magic that ever exists and finding the definitive uniting point across it all. It was an answer to a prayer to restore the nexus that this general refused to be. They may be a bunch of larpers, but they will use larping to move forward.

>>41166086
> Am I doing it right?
frankly, no
>then I fall into despair, realizing how poor I am compared to them.
that’s your problem right there - when you focus on what you *are* you manifest more of the same. you have to *be* different - not just imagining yourself talking to more successful people but actually doing it when the opportunity appears. this only happens after you deny your senses (which tell you that you are “poor”), completely take your attention away from being “impoverished”, and instead focus intently on being “wealthy”. the operant term here is not “poor” or “rich” but “being” - meditate on this by repeating to yourself “I Am ____” and turn away completely from the things you are not or do not wish to be.
>>41166113
there’s no need to be a dick about it

>>41166139
No.
>>41166199
>larping is real
Kek
Why not just go over there and stay there rather than this pointless trolling.

>>41166210
There’s no need to be nice either.
He will never learn otherwise.

>>41166221
true but all is energy and yours sucks

>>41166216
Holy fucking shit, the cognitive dissonance is real on this one. Then why did you started trolling? Why "joking" (trolling) us is fine, but when we come here to lurk once in a while we found yourselves with your lies, confront you, and suddenly "that's not okay"?
>larping is real
No shit sherlock, what do you think "identity sense" or "assuming you are what you want to be" means? Come here to reinforce that UL and LOA works my ass. Maybe next time you don't want us here, stop shitting up other places with your garbage. This is the bullshit (You) started, deal with it.

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>>41166216
If larping doesn't work we may as well dismantle both places. Hell, get rid of /x/ at this point, why not. Jesus, you're so insanely stupid, i may buy your excuse of your poor attempt at trolling back and forth because it's unbelievable how someone can keep losing track of his own lies in such a short amount of time.

/one/ doing so well that the /one/ fag posting there had to come here for engagement bait

>>41162408
You called SMAnon a glowie. That guy talked with and helped a bunch of anons personally before he left, and that's something that will never change, and someone like you will never understand. He actually helped, unlike you.

>>41166298
>IM J-JUST PRETENDING TO BAIT
Guess what, retard, maybe engaging in discussion in a discussion forum isn't that bad after all? Maybe it can be a way to better understand ideas and put your head to good work? Maybe it's a way to attain actual useful "gnosis" and dismantle lies? /one/ is founded on truth, and like it or not, it was the direct consequence of this place being unhelpful. Every anon from there was originally from this place because you and your cult of redditors tourist ruined it, and unlike the average /LoA/tard, they can take being confronted. You call it bait, i call it exercise to test convictions.

>>41166298
I don't see /one/ lasting more than a couple more threads desu